Really though, we have a higher chance of hitting scum in TPR. If we really have ONE tracker, hit inside MM/Kenny.
On that; we have confirmed information vs a hook claim.
MM narrowly avoided a lynch yesterday so I see no problem going for him. All things considered, he has been scummy since the thread opened.
Huey has done right by me but not acknowledging that he could be fake is silly. His being fake would also confirm Blink as an Actress.
3/7 > 1/4. So no, we have a higher chance of hitting scum outside of TPR.
October 21st, 2019, 08:08 AM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voss
3/7 > 1/4. So no, we have a higher chance of hitting scum outside of TPR.
I think Frinckles wants to lynch between MM and Kenny with the assumption we only have one tracker.
October 21st, 2019, 08:08 AM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoroth
what's Huey's vote right now
I suppose that if he didn't expect this TPR shitfest he coulda gotten away with it
if hes voting a TPR theres simply no way blink was actress, if Huey is scum that is
Huey is not voting inside of TPR claims -- or would like not to.
To be fair however, TPR counterclaiming makes sense.
October 21st, 2019, 08:10 AM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voss
3/7 > 1/4. So no, we have a higher chance of hitting scum outside of TPR.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huey The Long
I think Frinckles wants to lynch between MM and Kenny with the assumption we only have one tracker.
Voss, that's untrue.
Voss, Rumox, DS. and others all believe there to be just one Tracker.
That makes this a 50/50.
Either that or my original thought is correct.
October 21st, 2019, 08:12 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I Really Cant Believe... Im Still Public Enemy Number 1..
October 21st, 2019, 08:13 AM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frinckles
I may have missed it; why are Light, Myself & Efe your three targets outside of TPR claims?
Why is lynching outside of a higher chance to hit scum preferable to you?
Light i think could be the SK or even mafia, lot of filler, pushing pretty hard against myself without any real substance and i find it very hard to parse what Light says most of the time but from what i can parse through there seems to be very little content and the only defence of them i have seen is meta which isnt great.
Yourself, i think the heavy actress pushing early on was quite scummy and following that your now insistence on voting within the TPRs. I can see why we would vote between Kenny and MM but to me it seems more risky then its worth when we could hit the SK or another scum outside of the TPRs. Really either 2 of the TPRs are scum or just one is but we cant be sure right now and we need to push on the non TPRs.
With Efe its more of a sheep from others who have played a lot with him and following what they gotta say over my own thoughts on Efe.
October 21st, 2019, 08:14 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Also With Three PPL Being Replaced.. It Makes Gauging PPL Slightly Harder..
October 21st, 2019, 08:16 AM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I am up for either voting within Kenny or MM or voting Light or Efe or somebody on that wavelength. I think either lynch will give us a decent amount of info. But rn i feel voting within Kenny and MM, if we hit the wrong one and we lose a TPR then tomos we have 1 TPR or Non whereas if we vote within the rest we will have 1 or 2 TPRs tomos. who kills who and what happens will assist us tomos and the TPR thing can be worked better. I will we have a chance the mafia just kills outside the TPRs and pulls a quick one but that seems unlikely.
October 21st, 2019, 08:19 AM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Host meta got me killed 2 games ago. So no, assuming one of the tracker claims has to be a lie for that sole reason is a very bad play.
October 21st, 2019, 08:20 AM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huey The Long
I am up for either voting within Kenny or MM or voting Light or Efe or somebody on that wavelength. I think either lynch will give us a decent amount of info. But rn i feel voting within Kenny and MM, if we hit the wrong one and we lose a TPR then tomos we have 1 TPR or Non whereas if we vote within the rest we will have 1 or 2 TPRs tomos. who kills who and what happens will assist us tomos and the TPR thing can be worked better. I will we have a chance the mafia just kills outside the TPRs and pulls a quick one but that seems unlikely.
or we literally let mafia/sk kill the TPRs for us...
October 21st, 2019, 08:20 AM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Also With Three PPL Being Replaced.. It Makes Gauging PPL Slightly Harder..
What do you think I am?
I haven’t been replaced.
What do you think any of the 3 tpr claims who haven’t been replaced are?
What do you think efe is?
What do you think frinckles is?
What do you think rumox is?
October 21st, 2019, 08:23 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
imagine its stealth instead of Huey
October 21st, 2019, 08:24 AM
Kenny
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huey The Long
I have not made a descision on whether or not Kenny was framed. I had him as my number 1 lynch until i moved to the idea of lynching outside the TPRs thanks to Voss and a glass of water. I think that Kenny being scum is still very very possible for reasons i have outlined in the past but really i can see the reasoning for Unknown/Kenny to claim Tracker. It seems like it was all an attempt to lynch Mag who isnt the SK (i have some inklings that maybe SB16 is the SK, him or DS).
Unknown pushed the idea of Mag being SK in day 1 and as we know promoted scummy vibes through how he played.
Day 2 Unknown claism tracker on the dead person and claims that it was Magoroth and it could be him being SK.
The plan here was to lynch Mag. Now i see two strains of divergent thought here.
1: is that they wanted to lynch mag, the rest of the scum is alive and they were open to seeing Unknown potentially die come day 3 in the lynch thanks to the mislynch on Mag. (this is messed up by Mags Doc claim and we are here)
2: Mag is actually on a scum team with Kenny/Unk, their plan was to position mag as a PoS and then switch to somebody else after Mag Claimed Doctor. In this case we have a Vig who hasnt outed themselves for whatever reason which is possible for a vig to do. With the Kenny/Mag scum team they position themselves as TPRs and mislynch citizens. or Mislynch MM who is the actual tracker. The other scum in this equaltion could be Rumox, or Frinckles or could of even been a shady actress Blink but that i think could be a lot more likely now then i thought it was before.
I still think voting outside the TPRs is a good play because i would rather hit the SK then the Mafia and we wont do that within the TPRs. That said i have put Kenny at 4th
Your vote doesn't at all match your words. What's up with that
October 21st, 2019, 08:25 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
What do you think I am?
I haven’t been replaced.
What do you think any of the 3 tpr claims who haven’t been replaced are?
What do you think efe is?
What do you think frinckles is?
What do you think rumox is?
I Wanna Believe Your Town You Have Offered Up A Great Deal Of In Site And Solid Thoughts.. Efe Is A Troll And This Game I Believe Efe To Be Town But Could Be Wrong Its Kind Of Hard To Read Efe.. However, I Think Efe Is Town..
I Think Rumox Is GF.. I Think Frinckles Is Trying To Solve The Game.. I Think Huey Is Potently Framer And MM Is Potentially The Consort.. I Think Since Mag Confirmed Kenny Mechanically Kenny Is Basically Confirmed Town In My Eyes.. Mag Claims Doc Im Inclined To Believe Him..
October 21st, 2019, 08:26 AM
Kenny
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny
Your vote doesn't at all match your words. What's up with that
Nvm missed a few posts
October 21st, 2019, 08:27 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
I Wanna Believe Your Town You Have Offered Up A Great Deal Of In Site And Solid Thoughts.. Efe Is A Troll And This Game I Believe Efe To Be Town But Could Be Wrong Its Kind Of Hard To Read Efe.. However, I Think Efe Is Town..
I Think Rumox Is GF.. I Think Frinckles Is Trying To Solve The Game.. I Think Huey Is Potently Framer And MM Is Potentially The Consort.. I Think Since Mag Confirmed Kenny Mechanically Kenny Is Basically Confirmed Town In My Eyes.. Mag Claims Doc Im Inclined To Believe Him..
I like how Stealth is a lurker and you townread me
October 21st, 2019, 08:29 AM
Kenny
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny
Nvm missed a few posts
Actually no. You said your sk suspects are stealth and DS. You also said you'd prefer an sk lynch over mafia. Then you went on explaining how Yagami etc are scum instead and forfeited the DS/stealth idea again.
October 21st, 2019, 08:29 AM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
I Wanna Believe Your Town You Have Offered Up A Great Deal Of In Site And Solid Thoughts.. Efe Is A Troll And This Game I Believe Efe To Be Town But Could Be Wrong Its Kind Of Hard To Read Efe.. However, I Think Efe Is Town..
I Think Rumox Is GF.. I Think Frinckles Is Trying To Solve The Game.. I Think Huey Is Potently Framer And MM Is Potentially The Consort.. I Think Since Mag Confirmed Kenny Mechanically Kenny Is Basically Confirmed Town In My Eyes.. Mag Claims Doc Im Inclined To Believe Him..
First of all “In site” bruh moment
Second of all, why should we not lynch you today and who do we lynch instead? Make a case.
October 21st, 2019, 08:31 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Im The Hardest To Read Person Here
October 21st, 2019, 08:31 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
The Legendary Nullread
October 21st, 2019, 08:34 AM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
The Legendary Nullread
you’re fat and gay and scum and you smell big bad
October 21st, 2019, 08:37 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
First of all “In site” bruh moment
Second of all, why should we not lynch you today and who do we lynch instead? Make a case.
I Have No Good Reason For You To Not Lynch Me.. Other Then Any Time Someone Claimed Vigi I Pushed Them Offering Reasons Why Scum Would Claim Them With Potential Reasonings As To Why Them Claiming Vigi Would Cause A Panic Day 3 When The Real Vigi Did Show His Self. I Think We Lynch Rumox Or MM.. Rumox For Basically Bussing MM Then Once The Heat Go To Hot Jumping On The Voss Idea As Fast As He Could In My Opinion Sheeping So He Could Get MM Off The Hood And Cause A Mislynch On Town..
October 21st, 2019, 08:37 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
you’re fat and gay and scum and you smell big bad
Uno Uno
October 21st, 2019, 08:39 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Ive Also Answered Every Question Proposed To Me I Unlike Some PPL In This Game Have Nothing To Hide..
October 21st, 2019, 08:51 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Ive Also Answered Every Question Proposed To Me I Unlike Some PPL In This Game Have Nothing To Hide..
good job! :D
October 21st, 2019, 08:52 AM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
I Have No Good Reason For You To Not Lynch Me.. Other Then Any Time Someone Claimed Vigi I Pushed Them Offering Reasons Why Scum Would Claim Them With Potential Reasonings As To Why Them Claiming Vigi Would Cause A Panic Day 3 When The Real Vigi Did Show His Self. I Think We Lynch Rumox Or MM.. Rumox For Basically Bussing MM Then Once The Heat Go To Hot Jumping On The Voss Idea As Fast As He Could In My Opinion Sheeping So He Could Get MM Off The Hood And Cause A Mislynch On Town..
Find me some examples. Build a case. This is literally your life at stake.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Ive Also Answered Every Question Proposed To Me I Unlike Some PPL In This Game Have Nothing To Hide..
The problem is that you aren’t doing anything unless you are being actively questioned like right now. Your scumhunting has been surface level only- dumb shit like when you noted that mag claimed arso like it was a big deal.
October 21st, 2019, 08:55 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Find me some examples. Build a case. This is literally your life at stake.
The problem is that you aren’t doing anything unless you are being actively questioned like right now. Your scumhunting has been surface level only- dumb shit like when you noted that mag claimed arso like it was a big deal.
you do know I will save light yagami right?
October 21st, 2019, 08:59 AM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
you do know I will save light yagami right?
Read my above replies to light. All the same applies to you. What are your opinions on everyone in the game, who do you think we should lynch today, why, and give evidence.
Also cite your sources w/ MLA formatting
October 21st, 2019, 09:00 AM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
kudos to sb for pursuing this moot line of work.
October 21st, 2019, 09:00 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Read my above replies to light. All the same applies to you. What are your opinions on everyone in the game, who do you think we should lynch today, why, and give evidence.
Also cite your sources w/ MLA formatting
MLA?
I literally said that I think Mag or Frinckless(Freakingless) is SK
And Huey MM and Rumox are mafia with you probably being one of them aswell if one of them was a town at the very least
October 21st, 2019, 09:02 AM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frinckles
I'm no medical professional, but I believe they'd die.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
They die
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
MLA?
I literally said that I think Mag or Frinckless(Freakingless) is SK
And Huey MM and Rumox are mafia with you probably being one of them aswell if one of them was a town at the very least
I'm surprised there is no mention of mag in here.
October 21st, 2019, 09:02 AM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Omfg I hate multiquoting on my phone. It gets stuck
October 21st, 2019, 09:03 AM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frinckles
I'm surprised there is no mention of mag in here.
Im supposed to be dumber than you and im jealous
GODAMMIT!
October 21st, 2019, 09:03 AM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
Im supposed to be dumber than you and im jealous
GODAMMIT!
FeelsBadMan
October 21st, 2019, 09:06 AM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Have you heard of something called "having a life"? -_- I'm here now. And uh, I need to catch up on the claims and kills because that's apparently what it all comes down to now.
This reads like a townpost?
Why are we letting this scoundrel live?
October 21st, 2019, 09:14 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Find me some examples. Build a case. This is literally your life at stake.
The problem is that you aren’t doing anything unless you are being actively questioned like right now. Your scumhunting has been surface level only- dumb shit like when you noted that mag claimed arso like it was a big deal.
Ive Stated Examples.. Yeah I Said Mag Claimed Vigi Then Arso Because He Did And Like I Said Claiming NK Role Early Day One Had Led Me To Believe He Was SK.. But With His Doctor Claim And Him Having Been Watched By Kenny.. Proves Kenny As Town.. Now If You Want Me To Supply A Wall Post I Can.. Also As I Stated MM Could Be Consort Pretending To Have Ben Role Blocked. Ive Been Saying Most Of This All Day Ive Built My Case In The Thread And If You Arent Reading It Then Thats On U..
October 21st, 2019, 09:24 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
So Im Gonna Post My Vote Again.. And It Mirrors My Thoughts..
Then Im Going To Go Do Something Else.. Unless Any Of You Have Further Questions For Me..
October 21st, 2019, 09:25 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
So Im Gonna Post My Vote Again.. And It Mirrors My Thoughts..
Then Im Going To Go Do Something Else.. Unless Any Of You Have Further Questions For Me..
Alright, my internet dropped last night (no page whatsoever would load, discord or sc2) but I had time to think about the game.
We have 4 players claiming TPR. We have 7 implied Citizen claims. Logically, there is one liar in the 4 TPRs, and there are three liars in the 7 Citizens.
Mathematically :
Odds of lynching a scum among TPR claims without the info that one of them is town (Citizen's perspective) = 1/4 = 0.25
Odds of lynching a scum among TPR claims with the info that one of them is town (TPR's perspective) = 1/3 = 0.333333...
Odds of lynching a scum among Citizen claims = 3/7 = ± 0.43
Even when counting myself in the TPRs, there are still more odds of catching scum OUTSIDE of the TPR PoE than inside of it. Plus, in the event of a mislynch, it's much less damaging to lose a Citizen than to lose a TPR.
~~
By reading the two pages after start of day 2 yesterday (irl day), I just confused the hell out of myself lol. Unknown is actually towny there.
And since I wasn't able to log-in for a while today (computer problems again), I had time to read a bit of the Frinckles - Blink argument and to make some parallel with Stealth... Frinckles is currently pushing me with a "Look at that, that's not town" and honestly not much else to it. I was unable to be online for a part of the day, and now he's jumping on me for having had a life and for having computer and internet issues. You know me, I don't do the inactivity tricks, I hate even seeing that. I don't even put invisible mode on, EVER. But anyway, back to the Frinckles and Stealth thing...
Stealth said at some point : "I refuse to vote between that blatantly TvT interaction." or something similar, after I had declared that Blink - Frinckles was TvT. Stealth didn't do much more, either, honestly, outside of... calling me scum because he doesn't like me (lol) and placing weird votes. That specific post makes me think there is a Stealth - Frinckles scum team. Yes, it's a flip flop, and yes, it's not so big... but... that's what I think right now. Sorry for the lack of in-thread progression, but I didn't really have a choice :P
October 21st, 2019, 10:45 AM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Ive Stated Examples.. Yeah I Said Mag Claimed Vigi Then Arso Because He Did And Like I Said Claiming NK Role Early Day One Had Led Me To Believe He Was SK.. But With His Doctor Claim And Him Having Been Watched By Kenny.. Proves Kenny As Town.. Now If You Want Me To Supply A Wall Post I Can.. Also As I Stated MM Could Be Consort Pretending To Have Ben Role Blocked. Ive Been Saying Most Of This All Day Ive Built My Case In The Thread And If You Arent Reading It Then Thats On U..
Yes make a wall post do it. I want your information.
October 21st, 2019, 10:46 AM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frinckles
This reads like a townpost?
Why are we letting this scoundrel live?
Because he's a TPR, because he didn't jump on Blinkskater while he was a super low hanging fruit that I will definetly take and eat if I'm ever scum and he's town because he always finds me out (btw he towncored me in his last will), because I didn't support the shitty Mesk lynch yesterday, because I kept activity on during D1 to make this game a near spam fest lol, and for the best reason ever : I AM TOWN.
And you are probably not :^)
October 21st, 2019, 10:47 AM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Yes make a wall post do it. I want your information.
Did you just ask a logical wallpost from Light lol? You know that the only thing that will appear there is his poor ability to use logic, correct? That's a known part of his play, and you specifically are definetly aware of it. You're trying to make him dig his own grave.
October 21st, 2019, 10:49 AM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Did you just ask a logical wallpost from Light lol? You know that the only thing that will appear there is his poor ability to use logic, correct? That's a known part of his play, and you specifically are definetly aware of it. You're trying to make him dig his own grave.
But digging your own grave is fun
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October 21st, 2019, 10:49 AM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Find me some examples. Build a case. This is literally your life at stake.
The problem is that you aren’t doing anything unless you are being actively questioned like right now. Your scumhunting has been surface level only- dumb shit like when you noted that mag claimed arso like it was a big deal.
Why are you playing like it's your first game with Light? And more importantly : why don't you accuse EFEKANN for the same reasons you do with Light? He hasn't even been useful when he was being actively questioned, yet you leave him alone. It's not as if you were new to the site...
October 21st, 2019, 10:51 AM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoroth
But digging your own grave is fun
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Woah nice avatar ^^
Well yeah it sure is fun to make townies with bad logic dig their own graves, I already used that strategy on MU, very satisfying! But the point is that townies who know the bad logic townies well enough just won't do that.
Sent from my computer using a god damn keyboard
October 21st, 2019, 10:52 AM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Yes make a wall post do it. I want your information.
Why Is It You What To Pick My Brain So Bad.. I Have No Problem Processing Your Request.. But I Wanna Know Why You Think Your Right At The Same Time.
October 21st, 2019, 10:53 AM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I like MM's play here I think
October 21st, 2019, 10:54 AM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
congrats, you have literally managed to brainfuck me with all the TPRS and shit, I don't even know who's who anymore.