Wes be needing more than half the crew to decide on a swashbuckler to walk the plank. But we will make someone walk anyways if we can't decide. (6 votes to hammer. Or most votes by end of day)
One of you scallywags will be walking the plank when the sun is going down for 3 hours, 2 days from now (August 12, 4 PM, PDT)
August 10th, 2016, 02:51 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Game has now begun, I was bored and tired of waiting.
August 10th, 2016, 02:54 PM
Iced_Monopoly
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
-vote secondpassing
Im going to be leaving in a few mins for atleast the next 4 hours, so this seems as good a place as any to begin.
August 10th, 2016, 02:58 PM
Calix
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
-vote TheDarkestLight
I see you :)
August 10th, 2016, 02:59 PM
TheDarkestLight
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
-vote Calix
Time to tunnel you mindlessly for no legitimate reason at all.
August 10th, 2016, 03:00 PM
Calix
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
-vote Calix
Time to tunnel you mindlessly for no legitimate reason at all.
You make it sound like you're just going through the motions.
Defend yourself, plox.
August 10th, 2016, 03:01 PM
TheDarkestLight
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calix
-vote TheDarkestLight
I see you :)
You see, I'm secretly John Cena, so you can't see me.
That means you are lying about seeing me, and are obv scum. GG pleb. Get good.
August 10th, 2016, 03:03 PM
DarknessB
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
-vote Spruance
Still feeling sick from that blow dart last game, Spruance. -_-
August 10th, 2016, 03:03 PM
Calix
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
You see, I'm secretly John Cena, so you can't see me.
That means you are lying about seeing me, and are obv scum. GG pleb. Get good.
Fucking meme pleb.
Thoughts on the setup that you've obviously read?
August 10th, 2016, 03:05 PM
TheDarkestLight
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calix
Fucking meme pleb.
Thoughts on the setup that you've obviously read?
Yeah, I determined optimal strategy for the town is to lynch two scum while avoiding losing four town.
Not much to say about it really. ^^
August 10th, 2016, 03:08 PM
Calix
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
Yeah, I determined optimal strategy for the town is to lynch two scum while avoiding losing four town.
Not much to say about it really. ^^
Brilliant :p
Given scum does not control a night kill, POE is clearly the way to go. I haven't crunched the numbers properly but if you have 3-4 strong town-reads then you can just lynch outside of that and win.
So yeah, looks straightforward to me.
August 10th, 2016, 03:10 PM
TheDarkestLight
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calix
Brilliant :p
Given scum does not control a night kill, POE is clearly the way to go. I haven't crunched the numbers properly but if you have 3-4 strong town-reads then you can just lynch outside of that and win.
So yeah, looks straightforward to me.
Just gonna play this like a normal all citizens vs all Mafioso game. Find scum reads, lynch them. Find town reads, don't lynch them. I don't really think finding an arbitrary number of town reads is particularly important.
August 10th, 2016, 03:10 PM
DarknessB
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calix
Brilliant :p
Given scum does not control a night kill, POE is clearly the way to go. I haven't crunched the numbers properly but if you have 3-4 strong town-reads then you can just lynch outside of that and win.
So yeah, looks straightforward to me.
This is probably where our good friend ika would propose the much maligned "town bloc" idea, which is usually terrible and rarely works out in normal FM games. Given this setup with no night kill and PRs, it might actually be a good idea for once, however.
August 10th, 2016, 03:13 PM
TheDarkestLight
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessB
This is probably where our good friend ika would propose the much maligned "town bloc" idea, which is usually terrible and rarely works out in normal FM games. Given this setup with no night kill and PRs, it might actually be a good idea for once, however.
Town blocs leave people too comfortable. Albeit I will admit it's not as bad this game as if a single scum is on it it won't kill our game since one scum can survive and we still win.
Honestly the win conditions seem terribly arbitrary to me and the person DW took the idea from must have been smoking some weird shit.
But I'm not really liking the idea of a townbloc anyways since that just results in us getting too comfortable with people.
August 10th, 2016, 03:14 PM
Calix
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
From what I heard from MS/ ika, nightless games are more town-sided precisely because of town blocs that cannot be broken up.
I wouldn't recommend forcing one this early on - that rarely goes well. Just let the game play out and go from there.
August 10th, 2016, 03:25 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Oh crap, thought game started in 35 minutes. I wanted to be first D:
August 10th, 2016, 03:25 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Arrg.
August 10th, 2016, 03:40 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Spoiler : Bunch of Thoughts :
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Game has now begun, I was bored and tired of waiting.
That's why we're in Adventure Quest.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly
-vote secondpassing
Im going to be leaving in a few mins for atleast the next 4 hours, so this seems as good a place as any to begin.
Time to tunnel you mindlessly for no legitimate reason at all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calix
You make it sound like you're just going through the motions.
Defend yourself, plox.
-vote Calix
Because she spelled "please" wrong.
August 10th, 2016, 03:41 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Just realized I didn't actually finish my post lol. Also RIP Kovath.
-vote Mesk514
Probably a better vote.
August 10th, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by secondpassing
Just realized I didn't actually finish my post lol. Also RIP Kovath.
-vote Mesk514
Probably a better vote.
lollolololololololol
*these are my thoughts*
*votes someone who hasn't spoken yet*
someones salty
August 10th, 2016, 04:34 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
lollolololololololol
*these are my thoughts*
*votes someone who hasn't spoken yet*
someones salty
Those thoughts basically don't even count. Anyway, I was going to ask people who they were more inclined to lynch this game, then I realized that people can just vote... and that I was already voting someone.
So. How was your day?
August 10th, 2016, 04:37 PM
Calix
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by secondpassing
Those thoughts basically don't even count. Anyway, I was going to ask people who they were more inclined to lynch this game, then I realized that people can just vote... and that I was already voting someone.
So. How was your day?
Question. Why make a post with your thoughts if you think they 'basically don't even count'?
Rest of this post doesn't make sense.
August 10th, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by secondpassing
Those thoughts basically don't even count. Anyway, I was going to ask people who they were more inclined to lynch this game, then I realized that people can just vote... and that I was already voting someone.
So. How was your day?
my day is fine. how's yours?
so basically your thoughts don't count but you vote me cause?
August 10th, 2016, 04:53 PM
DarknessB
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by secondpassing
Just realized I didn't actually finish my post lol. Also RIP Kovath.
-vote Mesk514
Probably a better vote.
This comment suggests that your vote is for more than just RVS purposes. Care to explain what you're thinking?
August 10th, 2016, 04:57 PM
DarknessB
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
lollolololololololol
*these are my thoughts*
*votes someone who hasn't spoken yet*
someones salty
Maybe I'm missing the reference (meta?) but why would Secondpassing by salty toward you?
August 10th, 2016, 04:59 PM
Eggy
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
-vote Never Unlucky
he is always unlucky his name itself is a lie how can me trust him? Scum confirmed
August 10th, 2016, 05:02 PM
DarknessB
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
my day is fine. how's yours?
so basically your thoughts don't count but you vote me cause?
SP's RVS voting doesn't catch me funny in and of itself. What does catch me funny is what I flagged above -- that he first voted Calix (seemingly RVS) and then changed his vote to you, which I would have regarded as RVS as well, except his weird comment of "probably a better vote". I would like to hear more from SP about what he meant there exactly.
Also, the "thoughts don't count" comment is silly and he has to know it -- anything you say or do in an FM game is fair to examine and there doesn't seem to be much point in discounting one's own actions.
August 10th, 2016, 05:02 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by secondpassing
Those thoughts basically don't even count.
Starts off the Politico-scum!NU way -- makes a mistake and goes back on it marginalizing and discrediting his own post.
Quote:
Anyway, I was going to ask people who they were more inclined to lynch this game, then I realized that people can just vote... and that I was already voting someone.
So. How was your day?
Flagging this post for further consideration -- asking people who they'd like to see lynched before any reads has been made implies that you want to lynch players based on RNG/personal stuff rather than reads. This is odd at best and scummy at worse. I don't like it.
August 10th, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessB
Maybe I'm missing the reference (meta?) but why would Secondpassing by salty toward you?
last game i played with secondpassing, he seemed to feel some type of way that he subbed in and was immediately lynched...
August 10th, 2016, 05:13 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Awesome, I managed to stir up conversation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calix
Question. Why make a post with your thoughts if you think they 'basically don't even count'?
Rest of this post doesn't make sense.
I was bored and impatient. It does things to people. Also, I feel the need to post, but that is partly because I feel responsible to play this game and that it is day one. Day one needs to be moved otherwise people sit and wait and die.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessB
This comment suggests that your vote is for more than just RVS purposes. Care to explain what you're thinking?
I have a really hard time making random votes. My first vote on Calix was due to me liking TDL's first posts and that people should be training early on.
I moved my vote to Mesk514 because I'm salty.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggy
-vote Never Unlucky
he is always unlucky his name itself is a lie how can me trust him? Scum confirmed
This guy is salty too :D
August 10th, 2016, 05:14 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
last game i played with secondpassing, he seemed to feel some type of way that he subbed in and was immediately lynched...
Correction: Last two games I've played with secondpassing, I failed to read his posts and decided to vote him anyway.
August 10th, 2016, 05:17 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggy
-vote Never Unlucky
he is always unlucky his name itself is a lie how can me trust him? Scum confirmed
He's right. How can 'me' trust him?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
my day is fine. how's yours?
so basically your thoughts don't count but you vote me cause?
This is exactly the typical mod scum pre-defense. Early scum-read on Mesk.
August 10th, 2016, 05:17 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
Starts off the Politico-scum!NU way -- makes a mistake and goes back on it marginalizing and discrediting his own post.
I'm not NU. Oh wait, you're NU. We have similar post styles; however, I make things go. You sit back.
Flagging this post for further consideration -- asking people who they'd like to see lynched before any reads has been made implies that you want to lynch players based on RNG/personal stuff rather than reads. This is odd at best and scummy at worse. I don't like it.
I take it you're not going to participate in RVS? What is your alternative plan?
If you're going to criticize something, you should propose an alternative (strategy in this case).
August 10th, 2016, 05:22 PM
DarknessB
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
It's always brutal quoting posts that quote other posts, but I'll give it a shot below in teal:
Question. Why make a post with your thoughts if you think they 'basically don't even count'?
Rest of this post doesn't make sense.
I was bored and impatient. It does things to people. Also, I feel the need to post, but that is partly because I feel responsible to play this game and that it is day one. Day one needs to be moved otherwise people sit and wait and die.
Yes, I think we would all agree that Day 1 takes a little while to get going and an odd post like yours often gets people's attention. That having been said, I still don't agree with you that "it doesn't count". It just feels a little bit like an excuse if some people scumread you for it. As in "I told you that post didn't count so therefore I'm excused for it". I just don't agree that anything you say in a game should be discounted -- if you say it, it's fair game.
I have a really hard time making random votes. My first vote on Calix was due to me liking TDL's first posts and that people should be training early on.
I moved my vote to Mesk514 because I'm salty.
Okay, this is getting interesting. You seem to be suggesting that your initial vote on Calix was not in fact RVS, but motivated by your finding TDL's initial posts to be more compelling than hers. Can you explain further why you felt that way? Also, were you limiting your vote to players who were active in the game by that point? Just doesn't seem to be very RVS-like to me, though I might be overanalyzing a little bit. Understood on the saltiness point re: your second vote -- I hadn't followed the games where you and Mesk had played.
I have a very hard time believing that 'stirring up conversation' was your intent when you made your first posts. Your first post was a bunch of quotes, a RVS vote and not-so-dank memes. How does it 'stir up conversation'?
Quote:
I was bored and impatient. It does things to people. Also, I feel the need to post, but that is partly because I feel responsible to play this game and that it is day one. Day one needs to be moved otherwise people sit and wait and die.
I don't like that you feel the 'need to post' -- A town would feel the need to contribute to scumhunting even if that's made in only two posts. Quantity doesn't matter. You drawing attention to 'posting' specifically implies that you want to appear active but not necessarily contribute.
Quote:
I have a really hard time making random votes. My first vote on Calix was due to me liking TDL's first posts and that people should be training early on.
I moved my vote to Mesk514 because I'm salty.
You have a hard time making random votes? That makes no sense. A random vote is random, any vote will do. How do you have a hard time randoming someone?
I'm not NU. Oh wait, you're NU. We have similar post styles; however, I make things go. You sit back.
We do not have similar posting styles: I refrain from making jokes if they're going to be shit.
What things have you made go?
How am I sitting back?
Quote:
I take it you're not going to participate in RVS? What is your alternative plan?
If you're going to criticize something, you should propose an alternative (strategy in this case).
You're making it as RVS was going to make town win the game -- RVS is just a way to start a game. Votes don't mean much, they're just meant to create conversation to then gather reads. Reads are how town wins the game.
I can totally make it easier on you if you decide to quote train. I've learned that I can just stick all the raw text into a spoiler, have you remove the spoiler tag, and then quote from there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessB
Yes, I think we would all agree that Day 1 takes a little while to get going and an odd post like yours often gets people's attention. That having been said, I still don't agree with you that "it doesn't count". It just feels a little bit like an excuse if some people scumread you for it. As in "I told you that post didn't count so therefore I'm excused for it". I just don't agree that anything you say in a game should be discounted -- if you say it, it's fair game.
It's fair game. Whatever. I find the first posts rather useless this match. The most important thing is that TDL answered Calix rather nicely (so I give him a point for that) and that he voted Calix. As they say, sheep your townreads and make a train (why I voted Calix instead of TDL).
Quote:
Okay, this is getting interesting. You seem to be suggesting that your initial vote on Calix was not in fact RVS, but motivated by your finding TDL's initial posts to be more compelling than hers. Can you explain further why you felt that way? Also, were you limiting your vote to players who were active in the game by that point? Just doesn't seem to be very RVS-like to me, though I might be overanalyzing a little bit. Understood on the saltiness point re: your second vote -- I hadn't followed the games where you and Mesk had played.
I feel like explaining it further is counterproductive. Your thoughts on their interaction?
I was limiting my vote to players who were being voted at that point. (only votes were on me, Spruance, Calix, and TDL)
Spoiler : My post, that quotes yours [MENTION=11837 :
DarknessB
I can totally make it easier on you if you decide to quote train. I've learned that I can just stick all the raw text into a spoiler, have you remove the spoiler tag, and then quote from there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessB
Yes, I think we would all agree that Day 1 takes a little while to get going and an odd post like yours often gets people's attention. That having been said, I still don't agree with you that "it doesn't count". It just feels a little bit like an excuse if some people scumread you for it. As in "I told you that post didn't count so therefore I'm excused for it". I just don't agree that anything you say in a game should be discounted -- if you say it, it's fair game.
It's fair game. Whatever. I find the first posts rather useless this match. The most important thing is that TDL answered Calix rather nicely (so I give him a point for that) and that he voted Calix. As they say, sheep your townreads and make a train (why I voted Calix instead of TDL).
Quote:
Okay, this is getting interesting. You seem to be suggesting that your initial vote on Calix was not in fact RVS, but motivated by your finding TDL's initial posts to be more compelling than hers. Can you explain further why you felt that way? Also, were you limiting your vote to players who were active in the game by that point? Just doesn't seem to be very RVS-like to me, though I might be overanalyzing a little bit. Understood on the saltiness point re: your second vote -- I hadn't followed the games where you and Mesk had played.
I feel like explaining it further is counterproductive. Your thoughts on their interaction?
I was limiting my vote to players who were being voted at that point. (only votes were on me, Spruance, Calix, and TDL)
August 10th, 2016, 05:40 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by secondpassing
It's fair game. Whatever. I find the first posts rather useless this match. The most important thing is that TDL answered Calix rather nicely (so I give him a point for that) and that he voted Calix. As they say, sheep your townreads and make a train (why I voted Calix instead of TDL).
No posts are useless. One of the Mafia Bible golden rules.
Answering nicely makes one a town-read for you? By following your logic, would scum answer impolitely, and that's all sorts of false -- Reaction is mostly based on personality. An asshole will always respond in a dicky manner no matter what his faction is, an Eggy will always answer with flawed logic no matter what his faction is. You can't read someone solely on this aspect.
Quote:
I feel like explaining it further is counterproductive. Your thoughts on their interaction?
I was limiting my vote to players who were being voted at that point. (only votes were on me, Spruance, Calix, and TDL)
Weren't you saying that you didn't want the town to sit back? In that sense, you should be voting those who are inactive, no?
Edit: With host's permission, fixed a broken Quote.
I can totally make it easier on you if you decide to quote train. I've learned that I can just stick all the raw text into a spoiler, have you remove the spoiler tag, and then quote from there.
I'm not following what you mean exactly so I'll stick to my tortured method of responding to quote threads.
Yes, I think we would all agree that Day 1 takes a little while to get going and an odd post like yours often gets people's attention. That having been said, I still don't agree with you that "it doesn't count". It just feels a little bit like an excuse if some people scumread you for it. As in "I told you that post didn't count so therefore I'm excused for it". I just don't agree that anything you say in a game should be discounted -- if you say it, it's fair game.
It's fair game. Whatever. I find the first posts rather useless this match. The most important thing is that TDL answered Calix rather nicely (so I give him a point for that) and that he voted Calix. As they say, sheep your townreads and make a train (why I voted Calix instead of TDL).
To be fair, the TDL / Calix interaction actually occurred in the opposite order than you mention above. TDL voted Calix, then started to respond to her "nicely", as you characterize it when the two got into setup spec and the like. I don't understand why you give him a point for that though -- yes, civility is a good thing, in terms of our collective sanity / avoiding ragefests, but I don't think it's AI in any way. Also, it strikes me very odd that you Townread someone enough to sheep them based on their opening 3-4 posts? Almost makes me think you are putting a ton of thought into seemingly "random" actions for some reason. Just catches me funny.
Okay, this is getting interesting. You seem to be suggesting that your initial vote on Calix was not in fact RVS, but motivated by your finding TDL's initial posts to be more compelling than hers. Can you explain further why you felt that way? Also, were you limiting your vote to players who were active in the game by that point? Just doesn't seem to be very RVS-like to me, though I might be overanalyzing a little bit. Understood on the saltiness point re: your second vote -- I hadn't followed the games where you and Mesk had played.
I feel like explaining it further is counterproductive. Your thoughts on their interaction?
Honestly, I found the early TDL / Calix interaction to be the definition of NAI. Both are experienced players and both were talking about basic setup spec. TDL went with a countervote on Calix, but there hasn't been any actual push so I don't read anything into it.
I was limiting my vote to players who were being voted at that point. (only votes were on me, Spruance, Calix, and TDL)
Is there a reason for this? Seems odd to me to limit an RVS vote (or maybe not an RVS vote?) to only the pool of people who already had votes on them.
August 10th, 2016, 05:43 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
I have a very hard time believing that 'stirring up conversation' was your intent when you made your first posts. Your first post was a bunch of quotes, a RVS vote and not-so-dank memes. How does it 'stir up conversation'?
Look, instead of focusing on how bad my meme usage is, can you focus on what has actually happened? This thread revolves around me right now, so it definitely stirred up conversation.
Quote:
I don't like that you feel the 'need to post' -- A town would feel the need to contribute to scumhunting even if that's made in only two posts. Quantity doesn't matter. You drawing attention to 'posting' specifically implies that you want to appear active but not necessarily contribute.
If you feel like people don't 'need to post', do you feel that people 'don't need to post'?
Quote:
You have a hard time making random votes? That makes no sense. A random vote is random, any vote will do. How do you have a hard time randoming someone?
What did you like of TDL's posts?
Fact is, I haven't random voted anyone yet. It appears you have a hard time random voting someone too. Where's your vote?
Quote:
SP pings me weird so far. Not liking her posts.
Pings you weird or pings you scum? Are you going to just attack my posts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
We do not have similar posting styles: I refrain from making jokes if they're going to be shit.
What things have you made go?
How am I sitting back?
Okay, I stand corrected. This comment was based off of games I read of you, not with you.
I made conversation happen.
You sit back by not solidly offering an opinion.
Quote:
You're making it as RVS was going to make town win the game -- RVS is just a way to start a game. Votes don't mean much, they're just meant to create conversation to then gather reads. Reads are how town wins the game.
Please stop insinuating that I don't read people.
Spoiler : My post :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
I have a very hard time believing that 'stirring up conversation' was your intent when you made your first posts. Your first post was a bunch of quotes, a RVS vote and not-so-dank memes. How does it 'stir up conversation'?
Look, instead of focusing on how bad my meme usage is, can you focus on what has actually happened? This thread revolves around me right now, so it definitely stirred up conversation.
Quote:
I don't like that you feel the 'need to post' -- A town would feel the need to contribute to scumhunting even if that's made in only two posts. Quantity doesn't matter. You drawing attention to 'posting' specifically implies that you want to appear active but not necessarily contribute.
If you feel like people don't 'need to post', do you feel that people 'don't need to post'?
Quote:
You have a hard time making random votes? That makes no sense. A random vote is random, any vote will do. How do you have a hard time randoming someone?
What did you like of TDL's posts?
Fact is, I haven't random voted anyone yet. It appears you have a hard time random voting someone too. Where's your vote?
Quote:
SP pings me weird so far. Not liking her posts.
Pings you weird or pings you scum? Are you going to just attack my posts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
We do not have similar posting styles: I refrain from making jokes if they're going to be shit.
What things have you made go?
How am I sitting back?
Okay, I stand corrected. This comment was based off of games I read of you, not with you.
I made conversation happen.
You sit back by not solidly offering an opinion.
Quote:
You're making it as RVS was going to make town win the game -- RVS is just a way to start a game. Votes don't mean much, they're just meant to create conversation to then gather reads. Reads are how town wins the game.
Please stop insinuating that I don't read people.
August 10th, 2016, 05:51 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Screw Formatting.
August 10th, 2016, 05:59 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarknessB
To be fair, the TDL / Calix interaction actually occurred in the opposite order than you mention above. TDL voted Calix, then started to respond to her "nicely", as you characterize it when the two got into setup spec and the like. I don't understand why you give him a point for that though -- yes, civility is a good thing, in terms of our collective sanity / avoiding ragefests, but I don't think it's AI in any way. Also, it strikes me very odd that you Townread someone enough to sheep them based on their opening 3-4 posts? Almost makes me think you are putting a ton of thought into seemingly "random" actions for some reason. Just catches me funny.
I make the best of the situation I have. (Or I try to.) I'll find the AI post and post it separately. As for sheeping, I've picked up stuff from MS's RVS stage. They actively try to start trains-- currently not trying to do that right now.
Okay, I simplified our discussion to a length that is readable.
August 10th, 2016, 06:02 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDarkestLight
Yeah, I determined optimal strategy for the town is to lynch two scum while avoiding losing four town.
Not much to say about it really. ^^
I like this post. And I gave TDL a +1 for it. I think it's alignment indicative. Note the two Shift + 66. Takes effort to seem happy. Probably is happy. Probably is happy he rolled town.
August 10th, 2016, 06:04 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by secondpassing
Look, instead of focusing on how bad my meme usage is, can you focus on what has actually happened? This thread revolves around me right now, so it definitely stirred up conversation.
Saying I am focused on your shitty memes is a very big mischaracterization, I've made one on-the-side comment on it in a ~5 paragraphs post -- Scums tend to mischaracterize situations more than town do.
Saying I am not focusing on what's happening is also a mischaracterization. You are unnecessarily attempting to discredit me and responding very passively/aggressively to deflect from the points I've made on your case.
As I said, I doubt that your goal was not to stir up conversation. Your posts didn't feel like they were encouraging conversation at all. They were just "I have posted" posts in my eyes.
If you want to see what posts encouraging convos look like, read DB's posts and my posts.
If you feel like people don't 'need to post', do you feel that people 'don't need to post'?
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Fact is, I haven't random voted anyone yet. It appears you have a hard time random voting someone too. Where's your vote?
You saying that those votes were thought out and not random is scary.
It doesn't mean I have a hard time making one, lol. You're deflecting again.
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Pings you weird or pings you scum? Are you going to just attack my posts?
The previous pinged me weird (Not town, but not scum), but THIS post pings me scum. You are deflecting and reacting in a scummy manner with the passive/aggressive post.
Oh, I am ATTACKING your posts? I am not analyzing them nor deciphering them, I am attacking them?
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Okay, I stand corrected. This comment was based off of games I read of you, not with you.
I made conversation happen.
You sit back by not solidly offering an opinion.
Funny that the only point you concede is something that is completely irrelevant to the game.
You've made it clear that your 'goal' is to create conversation. You don't realize that that is not how a game's won.
My thoughts on the player (irrelevant to the game) -- [Spoiler]You're Eggy 2.0, no joke. The same typing style without the grammir mystaiks and the lol hahahah u suck.[/Spoiler]
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Please stop insinuating that I don't read people.
What are your reads in that case? I expect better reasons than 'responds nicely'.
August 10th, 2016, 06:06 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by secondpassing
I like this post. And I gave TDL a +1 for it. I think it's alignment indicative. Note the two Shift + 66. Takes effort to seem happy. Probably is happy. Probably is happy he rolled town.
You think it's AI. Care to explain?
Effort =/= Town
The post you quoted is TDL stating the obvious. I don't see how one could give a read based on this post.
August 10th, 2016, 06:07 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
@DarknessB
What are your thoughts on the interaction between SP and me?
August 10th, 2016, 06:09 PM
secondpassing
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
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Answering nicely makes one a town-read for you? By following your logic, would scum answer impolitely, and that's all sorts of false -- Reaction is mostly based on personality. An asshole will always respond in a dicky manner no matter what his faction is, an Eggy will always answer with flawed logic no matter what his faction is. You can't read someone solely on this aspect.
-vote Never Unlucky
In case anyone hasn't guessed, this vote is not random.
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I feel like explaining it further is counterproductive (I did anyway). Your thoughts on their interaction?
I was limiting my vote to players who were being voted at that point. (only votes were on me, Spruance, Calix, and TDL)
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Weren't you saying that you didn't want the town to sit back? In that sense, you should be voting those who are inactive, no?
TDL: "Voting a lurker doesn't make them turn on their computer and post."
August 10th, 2016, 06:17 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by secondpassing
-vote Never Unlucky
In case anyone hasn't guessed, this vote is not random.
TDL: "Voting a lurker doesn't make them turn on their computer and post."
Except this ^ obvious reply, you've yet to refute any of the points I made about you. You've instead deflected. Not only that, but you haven't made ANY points on me to justify your vote -- This is a OMGUS vote.
Also, I notice you're giving TDL a lot of credit this game...
August 10th, 2016, 06:19 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
Also, I notice you're giving TDL a lot of credit this game...
That's is exactly what I had done in Politico with Kovath, my scum buddy. I had quoted posts he had made on the setup page and buddied with him early on.
August 10th, 2016, 06:21 PM
Never Unlucky
Re: S-FM 209: Black Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by Never Unlucky
That's is exactly what I had done in Politico with Kovath, my scum buddy. I had quoted posts he had made on the setup page and buddied with him early on.
That is*
-vote secondpassing
It's not an OMGUS vote though it may look like one. I've scum-read him for a while like my other posts suggest.