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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Spruance
It seems to me that mafia would rather not post much today and wait till they communicate with each other to start interacting.
That's not a bad theory, tbf. So I take it you townread Hybrid/Marsh thus far?
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Hybrid
Because i know you, and what would you do. This wasn't an act like you would do. But since I don't know yzb25 and since I think that they are just messing around I thought your actions were rather suspicous.
Know your enemy, and you have 50% chances to win. Know yourself, and you have 50% chances to win. Know both and you have 100% chances to win. This is from Sun Tzu.
My goal is to not let my enemy know myself.
Also, FM is a completly different game, where random votes aren't always bad.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
There are not enough questions to be answered cause of lack of convesation. It's too early for voting or "baiting". Let's wait untill the afk players come. Or else we will just draw circles around us.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Hybrid
Spruance answered what I litreally meant to do.
Not sure how that's relevant to your decision to push Marsh. If you believe Spruance's theory, then Marsh wouldn't vote RLVG if he were scum cuz he'd be "hanging back". Thus, you voted / pushed someone you townread! XP
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Know your enemy, and you have 50% chances to win. Know yourself, and you have 50% chances to win. Know both and you have 100% chances to win. This is from Sun Tzu.
My goal is to not let my enemy know myself.
Also, FM is a completly different game, where random votes aren't always bad.
Yes they arent bad in FM I know that. BUT, but this is a critical game that if the bait fails and the person ends up being lynched which is a low possiblity i know, this might cost us the game cause there are only 7 citizens in total in this game and we have to win with at least 4 citizen seeing only 1 goon alive. So randoming might cost us the game. Also even for random it's much, MUCH early as well as for baiting.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Hybrid
There are not enough questions to be answered cause of lack of convesation. It's too early for voting or "baiting". Let's wait untill the afk players come. Or else we will just draw circles around us.
There will never be a time when everyone is on. We can chat now then our US pals can come on and chat later. This way, we give them something to talk about! =D
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
There will never be a time when everyone is on. We can chat now then our US pals can come on and chat later. This way, we give them something to talk about! =D
No, that s not what I meant. I need US palls' conversation so I can push them and find the scum in them. Also I can stay up to late so it's better me to talk as much as possible while you guys around. Might not be seem like so after those 2 fm games, but i actually am a smart person.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Not sure how that's relevant to your decision to push Marsh. If you believe Spruance's theory, then Marsh wouldn't vote RLVG if he were scum cuz he'd be "hanging back". Thus, you voted / pushed someone you townread! XP
Actually, reading that back again, that s the conclusion I ve gained atm. Wasn't the thing i meant to. I am multitasking atm so it s normal me to make such mistakes like that.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
Anyways, I am going off for now. Will be right back when our American buddies come back.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Hybrid
Yes they arent bad in FM I know that. BUT, but this is a critical game that if the bait fails and the person ends up being lynched which is a low possiblity i know, this might cost us the game cause there are only 7 citizens in total in this game and we have to win with at least 4 citizen seeing only 1 goon alive. So randoming might cost us the game. Also even for random it's much, MUCH early as well as for baiting.
:scared: You are right!!! Excuse that randoming, I forgot the setup requirements...
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
:scared: You are right!!! Excuse that randoming, I forgot the setup requirements...
Uh oh... There's no "scared" emote. Crap. Going off guys, bye bye.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
In response to
@Spruance
's theory, it's very easy to backtrack on shit you do or say in the first few pages "because there's so little information I was just trying to do what I could to gather information asdsfgrbfvdcswt", and start coordinating the "real vote to lynch" later.
So I wouldn't townread Hybrid and Marsh simply on the basis of their activity.
I'm curious - Have you got any other basis to read them on, Spruance?
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
Wait, I thought scum had a one-use ability to force a lynch? Has that since been removed?
If that's so, I think the odds are precisely 50/50 of town winning through random vote in theory, but in practice scum can coordinate and it's still skewed to them if we don't talk enough.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Fun fact: RLVG himself didn't even vote me back. I think he got what I wanted to do there.
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
He actually voted me back. Oops. Maybe he didn't understand :O
You w0t m8? This is some mighty psychology right here!
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Originally Posted by
Spruance
It seems to me that mafia would rather not post much today and wait till they communicate with each other to start interacting.
What kind of assumption is that? This is a logical fallacy, this just means that the town are automatically those who chat a lot.
Unless you're one and want to blend in.
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Wait, I thought scum had a one-use ability to force a lynch? Has that since been removed?
Isn't this game part of the vanilla game list? I'm pretty sure this is a non-vanilla ability lol.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
RLVG
Isn't this game part of the vanilla game list? I'm pretty sure this is a non-vanilla ability lol.
So like, in BFN 1 they just played the original vanilla game, as you say. Calix, DB and Mesk rolled scum together. They completely crushed an apathetic town with strong coordination and careful play.
Then Calix and DB were like "Hey DWs, I know we just rolled the town, but we clearly were at a disadvantage. You can take our word for it because we're clever. Pls add an op button that lets scum sabotage the lynch at day-end and kill someone we choose. Scum needs a way of rekking town leaders."
And DW was like "k".
So then in BFN 2 scum had that op button... except that time town rekt the scum. XD
So the has essentially been game buffed for scum when scum steamrolled, then nerfed for scum when town steamrolled. XD
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
So like, in BFN 1 they just played the original vanilla game, as you say. Calix, DB and Mesk rolled scum together. They completely crushed an apathetic town with strong coordination and careful play.
Then Calix and DB were like "Hey DWs, I know we just rolled the town, but we clearly were at a disadvantage. You can take our word for it because we're clever. Pls add an op button that lets scum sabotage the lynch at day-end and kill someone we choose. Scum needs a way of rekking town leaders."
And DW was like "k".
So then in BFN 2 scum had that op button... except that time town rekt the scum. XD
So the *game* has essentially been game buffed for scum when scum steamrolled, then nerfed for scum when town steamrolled. XD
:3
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Wait, I thought scum had a one-use ability to force a lynch? Has that since been removed?
If that's so, I think the odds are precisely 50/50 of town winning through random vote in theory, but in practice scum can coordinate and it's still skewed to them if we don't talk enough.
I removed that ability because it has been deemed unnecessary, I want to run this game as it is many times to receive data regarding win rates.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
I removed that ability because it has been deemed unnecessary, I want to run this game as it is many times to receive data regarding win rates.
Excuse me, I, deemed it unnecessary.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
I removed that ability because it has been deemed unnecessary, I want to run this game as it is many times to receive data regarding win rates.
Fair enough =D
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
Excuse me, I, deemed it unnecessary.
It is customary for Kings use the "we" pronoun, mate!
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
It is customary for Kings use the "we" pronoun, mate!
I'm not just a king, I am a God-King, I have made my decision.
hehe
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
btw
-vote Stealthbomber16
Still wanna do this cuz of #10.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
btw
-vote Stealthbomber16
Still wanna do this cuz of #10.
unvote
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
btw
-vote Stealthbomber16
Still wanna do this cuz of #10.
Okay this is clearly weird. Leave stealth be... I want your next message to be "-unvote". If it's not the case, I will vote you. :banhammer:
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Okay this is clearly weird. Leave stealth be... I want your next message to be "-unvote". If it's not the case, I will vote you. :banhammer:
Hey! It was working on the other game! What happened to the emotes :(
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
Uhhh.. Aren't we supposed to not quote our sensitive God-King? Also, if you are a God + a King, plural pronouns should be used. You are two entities.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
Yzb25, I want to add that -unvote won't be enough. I request something to explain this vote. He has done nothing in the game, and it'd be a weird bait. Really strange action if you're town, especially after the scandal of my vote against RLVG.
By the way, I'm sorry for randoming you out xD
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Uhhh.. Aren't we supposed to not quote our sensitive God-King? Also, if you are a God + a King, plural pronouns should be used. You are two entities.
Quoting me in the game thread is allowed, quoting me outside of the game related threads is not allowed.
I am your king, yet I have the ability of a god, ergo, God-King.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
I ain't unvoting SB unless he gives me a satisfying response, so I guess your votes are gonna be on me for at least 12-24h, and perhaps the entire day lol.
Y'all seem scared of scum using daychat to coordinate and hijack a train before EOD. That fear is irrational. Even if all 3 scums voted on a town, they'd still need 3 more towns to make it a full lynch.
Even if it did happen, that would be a very good thing. Because a sudden rush of people lynching the same guy on day 1 before EOD would indicate some scum coordination, and we could analyze the train and deduce the scum and win easily. It sounds crazy, but a town lynch isn't always bad in a game like this. Sometimes a key flip can give us loads of info.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Hi/ I'm a good guy/
You literally acted like a lazy troll in BFN 2 and flipped scum. In fact, I recall whenever you play like this you flip scum >.<
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
You literally acted like a lazy troll in BFN 2 and flipped scum. In fact, I recall whenever you play like this you flip scum >.<
i also acted like a lazy troll in that last game where i wasn't scum.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
i also acted like a lazy troll in that last game where i wasn't scum.
Pls give me something more SJ.
Pls.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
SJ's playstyle exploits the fact many people who are probably town seem scared of scum coordination and probably wouldn't be up for a policy lynch.
He is essentially holding the town ransom with his shitty meta.
At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
I kinda want to threaten people to talk so that way we can get info. Later...
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Hybrid
I kinda want to threaten people to talk so that way we can get info. Later...
Now is the time. Nothing will change between now and later except voting and threatening will get more risky for town.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
As I said i will do it for later.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
Hybrid
As I said i will do it for later.
Why?
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Why?
Wait, I'm being too hostile to my townread. Erm...
Why is that, munchkin? XD
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
SJ's playstyle exploits the fact many people who are probably town seem scared of scum coordination and probably wouldn't be up for a policy lynch.
He is essentially holding the town ransom with his shitty meta.
At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
I don't know what youre saying here 0-o There are to many players to do scum coordination? There scum team is too coordinated?
Please explain, how I sololy ransom thing?
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
RLVG
Except this is Nightless and there's no nightchat, but day chat, and he went with his stuff in 28min. I admire your attempt though.
When is the Daychat enabled for the mafia? Can the Mafia chat in it before the actual game starts?
so glad ur questions are super helpful and really help solve the game.
do mafia know who is town?
ill help.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
so glad ur questions are super helpful and really help solve the game.
do mafia know who is town?
ill help.
Was about to post some rant about how we'd have to PL one of Mesk or SJ at some point because they're both unreadables relying on lurker meta and they could both be scum, but if you actually plan to give thoughts on what people have said we're cool.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
so glad ur questions are super helpful and really help solve the game.
do mafia know who is town?
ill help.
Yes.
Please use the official channel for legitimate questions in the future, please and thanks.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Was about to post some rant about how we'd have to PL one of Mesk or SJ at some point because they're both unreadables relying on lurker meta and they could both be scum, but if you actually plan to give thoughts on what people have said we're cool.
Yeh im down with lynching Mesk.
I like Sprunce. I can't see him being a scum player and pretending to post what a scum player would do,.
I Dont like RLVG. Asking useless questions to look thoughful and useful.
I am wary of you. Cause Siance
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
Also isn't it past your bedtime ? :D
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Yeh im down with lynching Mesk.
I like Sprunce. I can't see him being a scum player and pretending to post what a scum player would do,.
I Dont like RLVG. Asking useless questions to look thoughful and useful.
I am wary of you. Cause Siance
RLVG's question wasn't so bad in the original context, but I see what you mean. And he's been tapping into the forum several times since and hasn't actually talked when ACTUAL CONVERSATION can be had, rather than dissecting Iced's outlandish conspiracy theories.
Spruance feels towny, but I'd like to hear more from him. Just stating a theory is something a scum can do, esp. if it isn't true. I'd still like to hear his thoughts Hybrid and Marsh.
Being wary of my incredible play is a good sign.
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Also isn't it past your bedtime ? :D
Shhh.
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Re: S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0
I didn't say glhf.
glhf =D
In other news, it's 2am and I'm going to bed. Later.