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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
his lynch solves for nothing except to get him out of your way while were looking at a goldmine of reads between voltron and SB420 tbh
Yes, did you forget how I play this game? I'm a team player when I need to be, otherwise this is my game
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
I'm fine with information as long as I have a reason to wolf read them, which I don't have on either right now
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
Yes, did you forget how I play this game? I'm a team player when I need to be, otherwise this is my game
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
Yes, did you forget how I play this game? I'm a team player when I need to be, otherwise this is my game
I didn't forget how cut-throat you are. Your priorities are just very unclear. For example, you proclaimed something along the lines of not being much of a voice during day one unless something peaked your interest, and here we are. And you've provided nothing.
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
I'm fine with information as long as I have a reason to wolf read them, which I don't have on either right now
I agree. And you, being a substantially better Mafia player than I, should see how divisive the town has become over Voltron/SB420. You can physically count with each hand who is supporting the other. With mechanical implication impending D2, I see no reason why you would ever support a lynch outside of that unless something else really stood out. I can't support a policy lynch of anyone at this table are the current moment.
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
Are you a wolf frickles?
Between you and I ---- I wish. I would fuck this game six ways till Sunday, to be completely honest.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
I'll go take a look at them both after this movie ends and see how much merit there is to your statement
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
I didn't forget how cut-throat you are. Your priorities are just very unclear. For example, you proclaimed something along the lines of not being much of a voice during day one unless something peaked your interest, and here we are. And you've provided nothing.
I agree. And you, being a substantially better Mafia player than I, should see how divisive the town has become over Voltron/SB420. You can physically count with each hand who is supporting the other. With mechanical implication impending D2, I see no reason why you would ever support a lynch outside of that unless something else really stood out. I can't support a policy lynch of anyone at this table are the current moment.
Between you and I ---- I wish. I would fuck this game six ways till Sunday, to be completely honest.
Thats Not A Lie If Me And Him Were Teaming As Scum.. Yall Would Likely Be Fucked.. Straight Up... 2/2 Yagami Frinckles Team.lol That One Town Loss Wasnt My Fault..
Im Almost Always Right..
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Let me daydream about being scum for a moment...
ResidentSleeper
I'd have the scum library stocked, full of Microsoft OneNote™ pages, timers, quotes, links, kpop, relationship diagrams, #1 push targets, contingency plans, codes and of course, kpop.
...
But, I don't have the courage to create a Town Business Card this game. So I'm just winging it tbh.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
I'll go take a look at them both after this movie ends and see how much merit there is to your statement
I put the F in merit tbh.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
I'll go take a look at them both after this movie ends and see how much merit there is to your statement
wait.
both of who; Voltron/SB420/DarkGod?
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
Who the hell is dark god? I'm talking about SB and Voltron
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
wait.
both of who; Voltron/SB420/DarkGod?
Dark God? Never heard of that guy before.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
Frinckles, your nicknames are funny. I hope you come up with something better than Korvath though.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
Frinckles, your nicknames are funny. I hope you come up with something better than Korvath though.
Kobold or Kagath could work for you seeing as you're obviously a SW fan.
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
Frinckles, your nicknames are funny. I hope you come up with something better than Korvath though.
I was going to type out something explaining that I just now figured out Varcron's name (I actually hadn't <--- that shit is fixed.) tbh
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
I was going to type out something explaining that I just now figured out Varcron's name (I actually hadn't <--- that shit is fixed.) tbh
Lol just call me Voltron, I really don't care lmfao.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
This SB/Varcron conflict seems a little... forced (maybe not the right word) to me. I can't get a read on whether it's because we have been provided nothing but junk by some slots or if it's actually scum-supported.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
you guys got me Hooked on Phonics™ tbh
illiteracy is not a joke.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
This SB/Varcron conflict seems a little... forced (maybe not the right word) to me. I can't get a read on whether it's because we have been provided nothing but junk by some slots or if it's actually scum-supported.
I feel as though some of the people supporting it are scummy, but I also think the lurkers are fairly interesting.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I feel as though some of the people supporting it are scummy, but I also think the lurkers are fairly interesting.
Feel like elaborating on the people in question?
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
This SB/Varcron conflict seems a little... forced (maybe not the right word) to me. I can't get a read on whether it's because we have been provided nothing but junk by some slots or if it's actually scum-supported.
The problem* at it's root was purported by me. If SB16/Magoroth or anyone else wants go in a ring, it should be me.
This is telling because, despite my best efforts -- nobody wants to.
But since I can read the future, I'll break it down:
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Voldemort - Echoed me and is now pseudo-thunderdoming SB420.
Naz - Admittedly sheepy.
Kovath - Chimed in.
Light - Echoed.
Lawyer - Chimed in.
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The dissenters:
SB16: Gunning down Voldemort with his cherrypick2000 broom.
MM: Will eventually swoop in and tell us all to take a time-out.
Magoroth: Literally the most contradictory-NotHere(ButThat'sOkay)-person here.
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And we have:
Lucina's nasty habit.
Gyrlander studying.
Efe coding.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I feel as though some of the people supporting it are scummy, but I also think the lurkers are fairly interesting.
make them work before you credit them tbh
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
make them work before you credit them tbh
I wouldn't say credit so far as much as note that they exist.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
The problem* at it's root was purported by me. If SB16/Magoroth or anyone else wants go in a ring, it should be me.
This is telling because, despite my best efforts -- nobody wants to.
But since I can read the future, I'll break it down:
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Voldemort - Echoed me and is now pseudo-thunderdoming SB420.
Naz - Admittedly sheepy.
Kovath - Chimed in.
Light - Echoed.
Lawyer - Chimed in.
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The dissenters:
SB16: Gunning down Voldemort with his cherrypick2000 broom.
MM: Will eventually swoop in and tell us all to take a time-out.
Magoroth: Literally the most contradictory-NotHere(ButThat'sOkay)-person here.
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And we have:
Lucina's nasty habit.
Gyrlander studying.
Efe coding.
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I'm actually more interested in what happened after the initial kerfuffle around Magoroth's sniper-statement, in particular starting with Vacron's response and following that chain.
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@Frinckles
so ya, i read the whole game, and I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, when it comes to the most information from either stealth or voltron being lynched
so no thanks
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
I'm actually more interested in what happened after the initial kerfuffle around Magoroth's sniper-statement, in particular starting with Vacron's response and following that chain.
Lack of communication after the initial retaliation vote on Vacron as far as I remember.
I suppose I'll take another glance.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Wiisp
@
Frinckles
so ya, i read the whole game, and I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, when it comes to the most information from either stealth or voltron being lynched
so no thanks
im not a savvy as you vets but dont dumbtell tbh
if you're town you have no investment in anybody here.
you see division, you flip a coin and see who ends up on the right end of it.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
Lack of communication after the initial retaliation vote on Vacron as far as I remember.
I suppose I'll take another glance.
To provide some elaboration on my original comment, attempting a rough summary:
Varcron and Magoroth have been going at it for a little bit over Varcron's reverse-psychology post, plus some other exchanges (Varcron says Magoroth is the most sus for drawing attention, etc.)
Some people chime in to say "Varcron looks towny! But maybe too confident for a newbie! Might be scum!" Still, for a long time Magoroth is the only person trying to get any momentum on Varcron.
Varcron, under questioning, makes his "Magoroth is playing towny" post.
SB takes this, cherrypicks half of the point, and rolls with it.
Over this time people have also been applying some "pressure" to Varcron's slot (i.e. I'm contributing by pushing the new player into hopefully revealing something!)
All-in-all, the push seems kind of... inorganic (again, maybe not the right word). There have been a a number of potshots at the slot without accompanying action. But potentially plausible given that several other slots are basically empty.
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A better way to phrase my feeling might be that the push seems to have a weird ratio of underlying logic, "soft support" of the conclusion, and "hard support."
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
To provide some elaboration on my original comment, attempting a rough summary:
Varcron and Magoroth have been going at it for a little bit over Varcron's reverse-psychology post, plus some other exchanges (Varcron says Magoroth is the most sus for drawing attention, etc.)
Some people chime in to say "Varcron looks towny! But maybe too confident for a newbie! Might be scum!" Still, for a long time Magoroth is the only person trying to get any momentum on Varcron.
Varcron, under questioning, makes his "Magoroth is playing towny" post.
SB takes this, cherrypicks half of the point, and rolls with it.
Over this time people have also been applying some "pressure" to Varcron's slot (i.e. I'm contributing by pushing the new player into hopefully revealing something!)
All-in-all, the push seems kind of... inorganic (again, maybe not the right word). There have been a a number of potshots at the slot without accompanying action. But potentially plausible given that several other slots are basically empty.
That's a very good take on it. And I agree with a majority of it.
A wise man once said for me to "give people the chance to be Town" and I've been trying.
I gave Magoroth the benefit of the doubt, until he continued tripping over various other things. (#208 is a good place to start I'm not playing Mafia for any of you guys waking up and reading this tbh.)
The problem that was brought up was echoed by one other person and fixated upon by Mag and now to a lesser extent, SB16
And you're right. We have all kinds of characters chiming in. But the bottom line is, we wont even see thier alignment when they flip.
This is why I took some offense to Wiisp not seeing what was happening before all of us. We stand to gain nothing from a lynch on Efe, for example. We stand to gain much more from the faux-interactions of others.
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The problem that was brought up*** was mine
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
A better way to phrase my feeling might be that the push seems to have a weird ratio of underlying logic, "soft support" of the conclusion, and "hard support."
Or that
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
@Kovath
one last question to you would be to specify
Do you think voltron vs magoroth/sb16 is organic
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
That's a very good take on it. And I agree with a majority of it.
A wise man once said for me to "give people the chance to be Town" and I've been trying.
I gave Magoroth the benefit of the doubt, until he continued tripping over various other things. (#208 is a good place to start I'm not playing Mafia for any of you guys waking up and reading this tbh.)
The problem that was brought up was echoed by one other person and fixated upon by Mag and now to a lesser extent, SB16
And you're right. We have all kinds of characters chiming in. But the bottom line is, we wont even see thier alignment when they flip.
This is why I took some offense to Wiisp not seeing what was happening before all of us. We stand to gain nothing from a lynch on Efe, for example. We stand to gain much more from the faux-interactions of others.
We'll see the alignment of the lynch-target at the start of D2, as I understand it. I'm not sure what the functional difference is other than knowing it a little later. Or do you mean role?
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Or is it just the spectators your concerned about
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
@
Kovath one last question to you would be to specify
Do you think voltron vs magoroth/sb16 is organic
You mean Voldemort's side of the interaction?
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
Not sure about alignment reveal.
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And all three of thier interactions, Nevermind the spectators tbh
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
Not sure about alignment reveal.
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And all three of thier interactions, Nevermind the spectators tbh
From the interaction-chain itself, if there's scum in those three I think Varcron is the least likely (really don't think this is bussing) and Magoroth slightly more likely than SB.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Kovath
From the interaction-chain itself, if there's scum in those three I think Varcron is the least likely (really don't think this is bussing) and Magoroth slightly more likely than SB.
fair.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
let's see how thees goes tomorrow
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
fair.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
let's see how thees goes tomorrow
We'll see how it goes.... I personally would like to hear from the people in the backround some, seeing as only a few of us have actually contributed anything meaningful.
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
fair.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
let's see how thees goes tomorrow
Kinda funny that the only non-positive thing you've said about my slot this game is (basically) that you like it too much tbh
(seriously tho I got my eyes on you :ika:)
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
Tempted to just policy some of these slots, honestly
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Magoroth
this post reads like cross-faction bussing
calling it right now, Frinckles/MM or Frinckles/SB16 = Mafia/Mafia or Mafia/Neutral
What the hell is cross-faction bussing, and how does the concept even work in theory lol?
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
Let's see.
. . .
Quote of Light hinting Irish (inb4 stereotypes): #88 Im Good And Liquored Up
He goes on to affirm that he did see it here:
and then calls you Mafia or Neutral here:
you went from 99.999995% town to Mafia/Neutral really fast tbh FeelsBadMan
Frinckles... Magoroth posted this after you talked about the "neutral out of the blue".... all what he did there was to say that Light had slipped because he said he was drunk, which is not exactly wise of him (because it's not rare or alignment indicative lol).
-vote Frinckles
I think that you are not honest in your pushes.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Gyrlander
In a lot of the games I'm active. Towny and contributing... that's debatable.
Unless you push me to my limits in which case I turn into a monster but you still decide to lynch me like a bitch instead of cooperating to win AND YES IM TALKING TO YOU MM.
Lol, not yet at least ;P
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
IMO you lurk way more as scum so I think so far you’re doing alright
Then again I don’t remember any of the first 150 posts including the opening one
Exactly. And you seem genuine as of now, so you get a free pass for D1.
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Originally Posted by
Gyrlander
I think he was talking about the other dude. I don't like the fact that you asummed he was talking about you.
Not a strong point, but another one to consider.
Umm, it was a reaction to the "gut read but nvm because my chest hurts" joke. Nothing wrong here.
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Originally Posted by
naz
imagine thinking i have reads day 1 LUL
Imagine laughing at people for thinking you are trying to be useful for the first part of the game... FailFish
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Originally Posted by
Magoroth
Vote Varcron for President.
I don't understand how I'm being scumread, all I did was offer an explanation as to why the mafia sniper wouldn't claim today because it's a dumb idea to claim, and literally the best scum Strat is to act pro-town.
also to the people who say I'm shading Yagami or whatever, I'm not shading anyone, Yagami is probably a neutral but I don't want him.
the only one I want today is Varcron. MM is a townreaed for me (or he's scum with Frinckles but I presently don't think Frinck is scum)
I think I have an opinion on a few other people this game but nothing I'd like to share...
@Magoroth
, you're saying weird things. Are you a German in disguise who has a hard time speaking English? ;)
But seriously, the mafia sniper part is a double possibility, if you're town you are telling the truth and if you're scum you're not, but that doesn't get us anywhere. It's just a scummy thing you can't do much about, tbh (oh no I used it unironically).
Light claiming to be drunk isn't really unusual, Mag... why are you sticking to that read? I don't understand.
What's the issue with Varcron..? I missed your progression there, and I don't see why someone would want to lynch him.
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Originally Posted by
naz
is ur only reason for wanting to lynch velcro guy the fact that he can form coherent sentences or do u have a real scum ping on him
Lmao so I'm not alone :D
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Magoroth
this post reads like cross-faction bussing
calling it right now, Frinckles/MM or Frinckles/SB16 = Mafia/Mafia or Mafia/Neutral
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I scumread Magoroth because of what he said here:
"I disagree, it makes it so they won't claim at all. That means it's possible for their buddies to shoot them, which I like, as I don't think the buddies will be scum hunting - the optimal strategy as Marksman Raider is to play this 100% as town and scum hunt. It's essentially a loner neutral evil role who happens to win with the Mafia. " (Page 5)
This raises the alarm in my eyes because not only has he outed himself in his later actions by doing exactly the strategy he called out by playing like 100% town and scum hunting, but he is also trying to divert the attention from himself by bringing it on others.
D-did you just blame Magoroth for playing like 100% town and for scum hunting? Because uh, while he did say he would do that as marksman, it's OBVIOUS that he'll do that as town too...... like, this is legitimately the worst reason you can scumread a player for lol.
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Re: S-FM Fractured Whizzbang (12P)
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
So hold on
You're scumreading him because he is playing 100% like town?
This seems like a trap
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
My chest never lies
-vote Varcron
I want a bit more explanation
Yeah, Stealth is very probably town here.
Think about the intent behind Varcron's post, though. Yes, the logic is not very good, but it is :
1 : not a big issue with him, given his other posts and
2 : not indicative of a scum alignment.
What is the benefit, from a scum point of view, to call a player scummy because they play like 100% town? You can't seriously believe that you'll pull a mislynch from that. I still think Varcron is town.