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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Dude there isn't an interpretation. It's written down fact.
Either cult or killing.
Killing would mean they have not killed anyone, weather by accident or on purpose.
Cult would mean a poor setup. But, that's would just be insane correct?
Ceko could be cult and just had called out who didnt convert.
Light and MM are the only confirmed roles.
We don't really disagree on anything except the wincon point, which is gonna be resolved. So I don't know why you're making an argument about this lol. And yes a second cult would be rather insane but also not fun in the slightest.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
Sen/YZB
Ceko depends upon the answer from DW but he is still in 3rd place.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
We don't really disagree on anything except the wincon point, which is gonna be resolved. So I don't know why you're making an argument about this lol. And yes a second cult would be rather insane but also not fun in the slightest.
My point is you're wasting brain cells on witch/drug dealer.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
My point is you're wasting brain cells on witch/drug dealer.
I appreciate the concern but I've been wasting brain cells the moment I signed for this game :P
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
I appreciate the concern but I've been wasting brain cells the moment I signed for this game :P
True. Ture.
@Noz_Bugz
please claim all your feedbacks.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
Also guys, according to my feedback, an asylum counsellor verified my role. I was actually a second sleuth the whole time!
But then sadly I got converted to the occult. Sorry about that :/
Man, what a crazy night ^^
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
NIGHT 1
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Your need to prove yourself has led you to the cell of theoneceko, who you believe to be an Citizen.
NIGHT 2
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Your cell was visited last night.
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Your need to prove yourself has led you to the cell of secondpassing, who you believe to be an veteran.
NIGHT 3
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Your cell was visited last night.
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After a long counseling session from the Asylum Counselor, you have been diagnosed of being a Lunatic. Your true calling is a Citizen.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
No teammate for that cult YZB?
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
Look at these dead people staring at me and laughing at me.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
No teammate for that cult YZB?
Is this rhetorical? I don't understand lol
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Is this rhetorical? I don't understand lol
Cult get informed of their team mates in feedback.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Cult get informed of their team mates in feedback.
I did not. I think getting that would be classed as a separate item of feedback.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
About witch/drug dealer scenario, if it's really what we are facing, lynching the right people will make us win very easily, especially with my action narrowing the pool of suspects. Considering there is a killer is therefore a much healthier mind: it cannot make us lose. The opposite is however not true: if we consider there is only a witch/drug dealer, but that there is in fact a killer, we could have the wrong persons die and eventually lose.
Another reason to think there is a serial killer (and not a mass murderer, because Light would have died) is that I was bussed with yzb25 last night, according to my feedback from my Sleuth action. I believe yzb25 is the Serial Killer who attempted to kill me, and just need the confirmations from Noz and Light to confirm Noz as town.
Superjack was targeted by the killer on N2. Ganelon was bussed with SJ, and Ganelon died from the killer's hands. Therefore, Superjack is not the killer, and is most likely telling the truth about being a Lunatic Citizen with a fake Investigator rolecard. Really, it's now between yzb25 and Ceko, and yzb is more likely to be it than Ceko.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Also guys, according to my feedback, an asylum counsellor verified my role. I was actually a second sleuth the whole time!
But then sadly I got converted to the occult. Sorry about that :/
Man, what a crazy night ^^
Did anyone seriously claim that lol
Can we just all agree on the following: cult is an horror that is not part of the setup, for else it would've been horrendously stacked against town? That's not host meta, that's just common sense, which Deathworlds has. If there's cult, we're doomed and were doomed in advance. Period. End of cult discussion.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Wait why are we even referring to "the" serial killer? Did we confirm there's no mass murderer?
Actually, yes, we did! Light bussed Ganelon and Superjack on N2. Ganelon died. If there was a mass murderer, Light would have died. Issue solved: there's a serial killer. Or a vigi and a drug dealer/witch, but as I explained in one of my recent posts, it's useless to assume that's the world we live in.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Wait why are we even referring to "the" serial killer? Did we confirm there's no mass murderer?
And honestly, it makes sense to say this if you're the Serial Killer lol
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Does this mean wincon mean the game ends with an insane win if the witch / drug dealers have no more friends?
yes
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
RNGesus decides
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Insane: Have 1 member survive to the end, Eliminate the Cult, the Occult, along with any Mass Murderers, Serial Killers, and Ritual Killers.
Oh, thanks SJ lol. This means there is NECESSARILY a neutral killing (or a cult, but I already said that was to exclude). The drug dealer/witch world is to throw in the garbage.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
About witch/drug dealer scenario, if it's really what we are facing, lynching the right people will make us win very easily, especially with my action narrowing the pool of suspects. Considering there is a killer is therefore a much healthier mind: it cannot make us lose. The opposite is however not true: if we consider there is only a witch/drug dealer, but that there is in fact a killer, we could have the wrong persons die and eventually lose.
Another reason to think there is a serial killer (and not a mass murderer, because Light would have died) is that I was bussed with yzb25 last night, according to my feedback from my Sleuth action. I believe yzb25 is the Serial Killer who attempted to kill me, and just need the confirmations from Noz and Light to confirm Noz as town.
Superjack was targeted by the killer on N2. Ganelon was bussed with SJ, and Ganelon died from the killer's hands. Therefore, Superjack is not the killer, and is most likely telling the truth about being a Lunatic Citizen with a fake Investigator rolecard. Really, it's now between yzb25 and Ceko, and yzb is more likely to be it than Ceko.
No, the witch possibility should definitely be considered. A mislynch followed by a witched vigi could kill the town majority today. It can also scramble feedback resulting in multiple mislynches, killing the majority after 2 days.
Marsh, marsh, marsh. I wouldn't target Superjack, because I'm not a cuck. If I targetted Renegade n1, you bet your rat's ass I'd be targetting a pro-town player n2 in case I was SK. We can deduce that the person who targetted Superjack was exceptionally naiive about their rolecard, or that SJ was self-targetting to see if he leaves visitation feedback like me.
Also, I wouldn't hit you last night. Why would I do that to my dear sleuth? I'd have faith in my dear sleuth to appreciate the... ramifications... of sharing an SK/non-SK check with the table, unless they were absolutely sure they could get the SK to be lynched that day.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Actually, yes, we did! Light bussed Ganelon and Superjack on N2. Ganelon died. If there was a mass murderer, Light would have died. Issue solved: there's a serial killer. Or a vigi and a drug dealer/witch, but as I explained in one of my recent posts, it's useless to assume that's the world we live in.
What? If MM hits the person Ganelon visits, then Ganelon dies, irrespective of what Light did. No?
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
What? If MM hits the person Ganelon visits, then Ganelon dies, irrespective of what Light did. No?
Uh... is that how it works? Logically, if he changes locations, he's not at home anymore to die to the Mass Murderer. It doesn't matter though, as Light would have died either way.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Uh... is that how it works? Logically, if he changes locations, he's not at home anymore to die to the Mass Murderer. It doesn't matter though, as Light would have died either way.
No because the people who die from MM are the people who visited MM's target. You're not thinking about this right.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
No because the people who die from MM are the people who visited MM's target. You're not thinking about this right.
Bus Driver is irrelevant in this unless he visits MM's target. MM creates a spree at the house he targets and people who target that house die.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
And honestly, it makes sense to say this if you're the Serial Killer lol
Bro I most of day 2 half-believing I was Mass Murderer. This situation is creating tones I didn't even know I could produce. Give me a break XD.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Bro I spent most of day 2 half-believing I was Mass Murderer. This situation is creating tones I didn't even know I could produce. Give me a break XD.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
No because the people who die from MM are the people who visited MM's target. You're not thinking about this right.
OH you're right, I'm stupid. Ok, MM is not excluded. It still is unlikely that the MM and two others never visited the same person in this game.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Bro I most of day 2 half-believing I was Mass Murderer. This situation is creating tones I didn't even know I could produce. Give me a break XD.
Rofl ok, but I still suspect you and think you probably should die today, as much as I love you :P
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
OH you're right, I'm stupid. Ok, MM is not excluded. It still is unlikely that the MM and two others never visited the same person in this game.
That's really not as unlikely as you're implying, considering the SK scenario relies on a bus driver switch or a doctor heal last night, as well as SP and SK to target the same person n1.
Honestly, I think the most plausible scenario is that this is a mega-troll setup and we have Ritual Killer/Ritual Killer/Jester King/Drug Dealer lmao.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
That's really not as unlikely as you're implying, considering the SK scenario relies on a bus driver switch or a doctor heal last night, as well as SP and SK to target the same person n1.
Honestly, I think the most plausible scenario is that this is a mega-troll setup and we have Ritual Killer/Ritual Killer/Jester King/Drug Dealer lmao.
Notice how every day has had a missing link where someone was visited with noone taking credit for the visit, even when there was no reason not to if you were in a shady position. We had Gyrlander on d2, Sen on d3 (JK could not have generated Sen's feedback), exc.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Rofl ok, but I still suspect you and think you probably should die today, as much as I love you :P
w-w-wait a second stop talking like I'm definitely going to be lynched maybe I healed Light last night and I'm about to become confirmed town a man can dream ^^
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
Notice how every day has had a missing link where someone was visited with noone taking credit for the visit, even when there was no reason not to if you were in a shady position. We had Gyrlander on d2, Sen on d3 (JK could not have generated Sen's feedback), exc.
Even I've forgotten who had really been visited and not claimed.
I also love the fact that your revolving around mass murder and serial killer.
Mass murderer and serial killer.
Only if there was another role which it could be.
-vote yzb25
I believe you are a Ritual killer. Avoidance of talking about it, remember clearly who was visited but not claimed. Previously lied about who they visited without having strong soft claims to link it.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
Remember
@Marshmallow Marshall
the feedback today can be ruined by the Jester King. Seems like both I and YZB got the 2 random feedbacks.
What feedbacks did you get today MM?
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
That's really not as unlikely as you're implying, considering the SK scenario relies on a bus driver switch or a doctor heal last night, as well as SP and SK to target the same person n1.
Honestly, I think the most plausible scenario is that this is a mega-troll setup and we have Ritual Killer/Ritual Killer/Jester King/Drug Dealer lmao.
SK wanting to kill me is plausible, since I could reveal his identity. Two ritual killers is another possibility, but that would imply there is a vigilante who hasn't claimed yet OR who was secondpassing. Hm.
Superjack, I just need noz to come in and claim so that I can reveal my feedback. That will confirm Noz as town if his claim fits. I'm actually 99 % sure my feedback is correct because of something in it, though.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Even I've forgotten who had really been visited and not claimed.
I also love the fact that your revolving around mass murder and serial killer.
Mass murderer and serial killer.
Only if there was another role which it could be.
-vote yzb25
I believe you are a Ritual killer. Avoidance of talking about it, remember clearly who was visited but not claimed. Previously lied about who they visited without having strong soft claims to link it.
Perhaps. If noz and light confirm my feedback is legit, though, I can safely state that it's either yzb or ceko, with you as a potential ritual killer, but meh. You didn't play to survive very long for a Ritual Killer, so I actually think you're innocent from that.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Remember
@
Marshmallow Marshall
the feedback today can be ruined by the Jester King. Seems like both I and YZB got the 2 random feedbacks.
What feedbacks did you get today MM?
I was visited, very probably by bus driver, and got my Sleuth feedback.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Even I've forgotten who had really been visited and not claimed.
I also love the fact that your revolving around mass murder and serial killer.
Mass murderer and serial killer.
Only if there was another role which it could be.
-vote yzb25
I believe you are a Ritual killer. Avoidance of talking about it, remember clearly who was visited but not claimed. Previously lied about who they visited without having strong soft claims to link it.
I LITERALLY SAID I THOUGHT RITUAL KILLER IS MOST LIKELY. I'M SORRY REMEMBERING THINGS AND BEING GOOD AT THE GAME MAKES ME "INFORMED".
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
SK wanting to kill me is plausible, since I could reveal his identity. Two ritual killers is another possibility, but that would imply there is a vigilante who hasn't claimed yet OR who was secondpassing. Hm.
Superjack, I just need noz to come in and claim so that I can reveal my feedback. That will confirm Noz as town if his claim fits. I'm actually 99 % sure my feedback is correct because of something in it, though.
Bruh there's no explanation for Gyr and Sen's visits in the MM/SK universe. And SJ's play doesn't need to make sense as Ritual Killer. He may not have even known he was Ritual Killer until today. What are you doin' man T_T.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
I LITERALLY SAID I THOUGHT RITUAL KILLER IS MOST LIKELY. I'M SORRY REMEMBERING THINGS AND BEING GOOD AT THE GAME MAKES ME "INFORMED".
Bruh there's no explanation for Gyr and Sen's visits in the MM/SK universe. And SJ's play doesn't need to make sense as Ritual Killer. He may not have even known he was Ritual Killer until today. What are you doin' man T_T.
Until the end of yesterday ***
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
@deathworlds
can the bus driver redirect Ritual Killer kills?
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
1. Good morning
2. Reading the thread i felt what few brain cells i had want to off themselves
3. I am investigator,
N1: I was visited and checked my own slot while attempting to check MM, I returned Investigator
N2:Was visited wand yzb25 returned citi
N3: I was visited and literally forgot to press send on my action like the dumb bitch I am.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
bruh gyr claimed his visitation feedback super early. I'd have no reason to not say I visited gyr if I had a citi rolecard. There was literally nothing to lose. I had no reason to confess about my actual n1 target on d3 either. I may as well have let people continue to think I visited Renee if that was the case. And if I wanted to make people think I wasn't RK, I could have at least used backtrack to say I actually visited a target who received no feedback on n1. Wake up sheeple T_T
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
bruh gyr claimed his visitation feedback super early. I'd have no reason to not say I visited gyr if I had a citi rolecard. There was literally nothing to lose. I had no reason to confess about my actual n1 target on d3 either. I may as well have let people continue to think I visited Renee if that was the case. And if I wanted to make people think I wasn't RK, I could have at least used the backtrack to say I actually visited a target who received no feedback on n1. Wake up sheeple T_T
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
bruh gyr claimed his visitation feedback super early. I'd have no reason to not say I visited gyr if I had a citi rolecard. There was literally nothing to lose. I had no reason to confess about my actual n1 target on d3 either. I may as well have let people continue to think I visited Renee if that was the case. And if I wanted to make people think I wasn't RK, I could have at least used backtrack to say I actually visited a target who received no feedback on n1. Wake up sheeple T_T
you realize i have a 33% of just getting citi lol
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Noz_Bugz
you realize i have a 33% of just getting citi lol
You've missed a lot of shit. I claimed citi before you checked me.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
You've missed a lot of shit. I claimed citi before you checked me.
before Sen checked you lol
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
We have a replace, a half-reading neut benign who doesn't need town to win and ceko, who literally still has not caught up after an entire goddamn week.
Yagami please carry this
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
I Bused MM And YZB25 Last Night
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
I Bused MM And YZB25 Last Night
WeRe yoU vISiTeD?
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
yzb25
WeRe yoU vISiTeD?
Apparently Twice.
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
Apparently Twice.
SDFWRHERIUGHEWRAIOUTGHERUIOGHNERTUIOGHNO
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Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread
There's meant to be a 1 in 4 chance of getting BS feedback. How have half the bloody players gotten fake feedback?!