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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Tbh given this info I am tempted to townread you... sorry for going so ham at you lol
-vote S-FM Halloween
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Just in case.
-vote MartinGG99
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
It doesn't work retroactively. If he voted someone nobody else had voted for at the start of the day then he's already gotten his charge.
You would also need to vote for dead players since his rolecard doesn't specify.
I've already asked martin about it.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
-vote S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
I feel like Halloween slipped some rolecard stuff that indicates they are scum.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
It doesn't work retroactively. If he voted someone nobody else had voted for at the start of the day then he's already gotten his charge.
You would also need to vote for dead players since his rolecard doesn't specify.
I've already asked martin about it.
So you ask about the details of the voting power mechanism. But nothing about the MVP in relation to yours?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Also can we NOT have a million ties again? Thanks.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
So you ask about the details of the voting power mechanism. But nothing about the MVP in relation to yours?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/3f5f...temid=15806751
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
The MVP thing wouldn't work anyway because of the way it's worded. It doesn't reveal his role, just that he's MVP.
I wouldn't want to win with sauron anyway because he's been pushing me all day like a little bitch.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
LUL
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
And you also admitted this in public so that Sauron is aware about the wording abuse of the role even though they might of been unaware?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
It doesn't work retroactively. If he voted someone nobody else had voted for at the start of the day then he's already gotten his charge.
Then Martin is mistaken if he thinks so. It clearly says in the role that he quoted:
"You vote for a player that nobody else has voted for the entire day - 1 protection charge upon next night phase"
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
The MVP thing wouldn't work anyway because of the way it's worded. It doesn't reveal his role, just that he's MVP.
I wouldn't want to win with sauron anyway because he's been pushing me all day like a little bitch.
Did you ask Martin about this?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
And you also admitted this in public so that Sauron is aware about the wording abuse of the role even though they might of been unaware?
What would be the prior way that Sauron would know that we could win together?
This theory that I was going to try to win with Sauron was garbage from the beginning when he suggested lost wolves. It still is garbage now.
I'm town, I intend to win with town. Nobody else has used a role that reveals themselves yet.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
The MVP thing wouldn't work anyway because of the way it's worded. It doesn't reveal his role, just that he's MVP.
I wouldn't want to win with sauron anyway because he's been pushing me all day like a little bitch.
You are not Halloween. He has been pushing Halloween for their entire life. Even when they weren't directly pushing him, they still pushed him.
And no. It's very easy to abuse the words of the rolecard so there is no was I'm taking your word for it.
I can target the host and actually have an effect on the host because they are classed as someone. I also managed to wiggle a few more insane abuse mechanic which I'm refusing to follow up on because I felt like post game people wouldn't be too please with it. Lol.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
As far as I'm concerned, ever since I gave my process of elimination - the only thing that changed since was DA posting his role. For me, it changes nothing.
Unless someone can give something better, which it doesn't look like it.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
Did you ask Martin about this?
No.
But I gave him advice on how to run the setup that he's following: Take the rolecards literally.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
LMAO
Wait if you can target the host can you... make him unable to post for 24 hours thereby extending the day?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
I'm town, I intend to win with town. Nobody else has used a role that reveals themselves yet.
What argument is this? Roles are NAI, the fact that you have a role that reveals itself says nothing about your alignment.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
As far as I'm concerned, ever since I gave my process of elimination - the only thing that changed since was DA posting his role. For me, it changes nothing.
Unless someone can give something better, which it doesn't look like it.
DA posting his rolecard means hes giving up on his alternate wincon with Sauron. It pretty much clears him of most of my accusations
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Feel free to ask him. I'm not at all interested in winning with Sauron so I don't care.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
LMAO
Wait if you can target the host can you... make him unable to post for 24 hours thereby extending the day?
@S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
To clarify, since I have gotten a few questions about this,
Quote:
You vote for a player that nobody else has voted for the entire day
I intended it to mean this:
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You vote for a player that nobody else has voted for the entire day up to that point
I will in the vast majority of times strictly obey the wording of the role-cards, but if it was something that I wrote and/or intended to be a certain way (and instead wasn't due to, say, a typing error) I will clarify what I meant unless the error was very serious (in which case sucks to be me I guess).
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
DA posting his rolecard means hes giving up on his alternate wincon with Sauron. It pretty much clears him of most of my accusations
He never had to give up to begin with. And even if he did - his only reason he revealed was because "he was one chopping block".
Such a fallacious argument.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
I don't think we can really ask the host about other role cards that have not been revealed.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
He never had to give up to begin with. And even if he did - his only reason he revealed was because "he was one chopping block".
Such a fallacious argument.
Never had one*
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
He never had to give up to begin with. And even if he did - his only reason he revealed was because "he was one chopping block".
Such a fallacious argument.
He did... they can lynch the entire town between each other.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
DA posting his rolecard means hes giving up on his alternate wincon with Sauron. It pretty much clears him of most of my accusations
Sauron is a poopy head.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
He did... they can lynch the entire town between each other.
Lol, Imagine a game where the scums greatest power is the lynch, and the towns are the scummy-looking OP rolecards
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
Changing my vote to Don't Ask, because they're one of the spammy people and Skin Overdose is voting DA. Skin Overdose seems like they're town for asking everyone for a summary of the game and is the ONLY one to have done so (even though I've asked many times).
-vote S-fm don't ask
-vote S-fm dont ask
realized my vote didn't count
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
To clarify, since I have gotten a few questions about this,
I intended it to mean this:
I will in the vast majority of times strictly obey the wording of the role-cards, but if it was something that I wrote and/or intended to be a certain way (and instead wasn't due to, say, a typing error) I will clarify what I meant unless the error was very serious (in which case sucks to be me I guess).
I guess it makes sense due to how weak the role is otherwise.
But at that point - the whole pre-requirement becomes a null point because nothing stops him from just voting any random person at the start of the day.
My question now is:
@S-FM Dont Ask
Why did you choose to ask the host privately about Saurons role?
@MartinGG99
What reason could you have to confirm someone's role power to someone else privately?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
I don't think we can really ask the host about other role cards that have not been revealed.
Ben Shaprio style.
"Lets say, hypothetically, that the rolecard Dont Ask revealed was legitimate. Would he then, hypothetically, be able to win with Sauron, who revealed as the mvp?"
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
I guess it makes sense due to how weak the role is otherwise.
But at that point - the whole pre-requirement becomes a null point because nothing stops him from just voting any random person at the start of the day.
My question now is:
@S-FM Dont Ask
Why did you choose to ask the host privately about Saurons role?
@MartinGG99
What reason could you have to confirm someone's role power to someone else privately?
Curiosity.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
-vote S-fm dont ask
realized my vote didn't count
Nooooo comment on the revelations we've had today?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
He did... they can lynch the entire town between each other.
Dude he literally told himself that he can't....
Or at the very least - he thought he can't.
Wtf?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Dont Ask
Nooooo comment on the revelations we've had today?
No one has givem them a TDLR of the game so they are not doing much.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Look at scum Halloween and Overdose trying to push the mislynch on DA after it got proven DA is not teamed with Sauron LMAO
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Any suggestions for my night action?
And since big old eye ain't dying today, and I don't want it to end in another draw -vote S-FM Dont Ask
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
Look at scum Halloween and Overdose trying to push the mislynch on DA after it got proven DA is not teamed with Sauron LMAO
Dude, you what?
Just minutes ago DA was your top scum read. What changed? Him revealing his role when he was on the choppoing block?
Please, show some critical thinking and tell me - how did that change anything for you.
You made a argument based on a false statement earlier, debunked by the one you are "now defending" yourself.
You make 0 sense.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Spain Land
Look at scum Halloween and Overdose trying to push the mislynch on DA after it got proven DA is not teamed with Sauron LMAO
I don't trust someone who has been so willing to vote me and call me scum, admitting to not reading and voting for self-hurt feelings with the ability to day kill someone.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
-vote S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
I'd like to stay alive, I guess.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
@MartinGG99
What reason could you have to confirm someone's role power to someone else privately?
By asking me about a role-card that is not theirs, I presume they are assuming that such a role-card or role-power exists unless you have evidence to support its existence (I.e. a public reveal).
So in other words, I am answering a hypothetical (and if that role did exist with X wording or whatever, then my answer is truth).
I may state somethings in relation to an already-revealed role-card to give examples if it helps communication.
And if the question is about a publicly revealed role-card, I may answer questions publicly.
There may be some more nuances to this, but they're quite small and probably situation-specific.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Scum will always get mad when a sure-fire mislynch doesnt go through and they try to force it through anyways to secure a mislynch now that it looks like DA isnt getting lynched lol.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
Dude, you what?
Just minutes ago DA was your top scum read. What changed? Him revealing his role when he was on the choppoing block?
Please, show some critical thinking and tell me - how did that change anything for you.
You made a argument based on a false statement earlier, debunked by the one you are "now defending" yourself.
You make 0 sense.
Spain doesn't make sense, they live in their own world with very limited range of theory's. Yet with the stubbornness and arrogance and being completely confidante with it. Makes him town in my eyes.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Caught up again. Sheeping skin until I think they're scummy because everyone else is useless.
Here's my read list
Halloween
Skin Overdose
TBD
-everyone else-
SpainLand
Sauron
Dont Ask
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
Any suggestions for my night action?
And since big old eye ain't dying today, and I don't want it to end in another draw
-vote S-FM Dont Ask
Sauron's role is never worth RB'ing.
My role is, potentially,
Spain threw his potato away, presumably.
TBD has a "role check" - helpful.
Egypt and Halloween - do we know their roles?
I'd pick Halloween or myself if I were you I think.
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
Caught up again. Sheeping skin until I think they're scummy because everyone else is useless.
Here's my read list
Halloween
Skin Overdose
TBD
-everyone else-
SpainLand
Sauron
Dont Ask
I'm going to assume town high, scum low.
But may I ask why TBD?
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Re: Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 319)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Skin Overdose
Sauron's role is never worth RB'ing.
My role is, potentially,
Spain threw his potato away, presumably.
TBD has a "role check" - helpful.
Egypt and Halloween - do we know their roles?
I'd pick Halloween or myself if I were you I think.
I'll go with Halloween, they can use the extra time to read through the gamn and organize a read list when they are able to talk.