I was hoping Zedus would be back by now. I must go to bed. I was waiting but 🤷🏻*♀️
I have alarms set. Gyrlander would be an ideal lynch, but if Zedus doesn't come back, that's okay too.
Should I sleep through my alarms, I am so sorry.
August 16th, 2020, 03:59 AM
Zedus
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
I am here.
I spent time as great as it possible.
@Mesk515, you were right, I need a break. And i did it.
Well, I read all around. DM killed by virus, so he is mafia. If he is mafia, his most probably teammate is not Martin, but Gyrlander, who never voted with town and followed DM d2.
I am Tribesman. I just woke up. I'm not in my House and on mobile but id you guys are seriously going to flip flop like that to me you dont deserve this win.
@Frinckles
Lynch me. Or wait until I go back home
August 16th, 2020, 04:07 AM
Gyrlander
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Will this finally be the game that "I am Citizen" stops working for Mesk?
August 16th, 2020, 04:09 AM
Zedus
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrlander
HAHAHAHA
I am Tribesman. I just woke up. I'm not in my House and on mobile but id you guys are seriously going to flip flop like that to me you dont deserve this win.
@Frinckles
Lynch me. Or wait until I go back home
Firsh DM speaking after his dead. Now you are already lynched, but speaking. You cannot fool us this way, also you are already dead, and we must stop talking here and don't use that bug. What's wrong with site,
@AIVION
August 16th, 2020, 04:10 AM
Gyrlander
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
I am truly shook. I dont care being mislynchrd if there is a thought process behind It and I'm able to defend myself for a decent amount of time.
However, my Lynch is basically locked.
Zedus had the balls to vote me when I'm already -2 KAPPA
Something wrong with bot. Gyrlander is lynched. Let's stop breaking the rules and post shit. Wait for host.
August 16th, 2020, 04:13 AM
Gyrlander
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
You're correct. I'm closing this thread until
@AIVION
comes back.
August 16th, 2020, 08:06 AM
AIVION
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
There wasn't an error I'm sorry Players. I dunno why I thought I remembered reading on the setup that the vote count doesnt change even if someone dies to poison. That's 100% Host Error and I apologize... Let's fix this and let the lynch officially happen... 4 votes to hammer.
August 16th, 2020, 08:07 AM
The Godfather
Gyrlander has been yeeted! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
So I cant post the day end post in all its glory without being "Banned" again... so im going to Have MM Do it for me sooo. Take it away
@Marshmallow Marshall
The mountainside is in view! You have made it at last. From going through treacherous jungles and Forests... you feel like your journey is almost complete! You can feel the wolves breathing on your back at every turn. It was unsettling. You start to climb up the mountainside, looking around for any signs of life while you do so. You hear more shouting from behind you. You see another person running down from the forest, collapsing onto the ground. You run down to see if they're alright. You check their pulses.... no breathing. You remember seeing this before. How this could happen... you will never understand.
You trek up the mountainside, hoping that you can finally find peace and shelter from the evils that lurk outside.
@Gyrlander
Yeeted! His role is Tribesman (Citizen)
You've successfully made it. You're climbing up the mountain. You feel exhilarated as you climb... the feeling is that of fear and excitement. One misstep and you could be tumbling to your death. You shake that fear off and continue moving forward... ever determined to make it to the top. You get to a section of the mountain you can rest on. You decide to stay here for the night, it has a nice view of the land and feels quite safe. You start up a fire to keep warm... then...
You heard the sounds of wolves barking and howling. You look down towards the land and can barely see what looks like yet again another struggle. You can see someone being devoured by one wolf while the other wolf is slowly backing away from someone. Despite them being hard to see... you can make out the person as that cloaked figure with the bow from earlier. They draw back their bow and fire! They successfully hit the wolf devouring the poor soul! He stumbles and whines so loudly you can even hear him as he collapses. The other wolf chases after the hunter this time. They dissapear from your line of sight as the scene down below ends.
You cook up a nice dinner and rest... for you will be needing it for the long climb ahead of you.
@Zedus
Was killed by the hunter! His role was Alpha Wolf (godfather)
His last will reads: "Hello, my new lw:
"Well, we are done. Nice shot, hunter! I am dead, so last info will help you. We checked Mike n2. He is virus. I don't want let virus wins, let it be town, you deserved your victory. Epecially Mesk514 :) Bye-bye!""
@Frinckles
Has been Killed and devoured by the wolveS! His Role was Tribesman (citizen). His last will reads:
Dead:
@Auwt
- Shaman (White Mage) - Killed by Wolves.
@bakermir
- Shaman (White Mage) - Yeeted.
@Marshmallow Marshall
- Spiritualist (Sheriff) - Death by poison.
@Varcron
- Beta Wolf (Consigliere) - Killed by hunter.
@Renegade
- Tribesman (citizen) - Killed by Wolves.
@Gyrlander
- Tribesman (citizen) - Yeeted.
@Dark Magician
- Tribesman (citizen) - Death by poison.
@Zedus
- Alpha Wolf (Godfather) - Killed by hunter.
@Frinckles
- Tribesman (citizen) - Killed by Wolves.
3 votes to hammer.
Night 3 Ends August 20th at 4:00 PM EST:
extending Day end time because I will be at my job during this time on the 20th. ^.^
August 18th, 2020, 08:39 AM
AIVION
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Day Started you may now post!
August 18th, 2020, 08:41 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Alright, well. lol fuck you Zedus.
August 18th, 2020, 08:42 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Nice fucking shot, lets goooooooo!
August 18th, 2020, 08:44 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
So from the Vigis POV, myself or martin is the last wolf.
Mikes the virus =( i remember when i subbed in i said mikes play day 1 only really makes sense as virus lol
August 18th, 2020, 08:44 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Okay, well. I'm the vigi.
August 18th, 2020, 08:45 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
UNLESS scum is playing us and wants us not to lynch mike first.
We need to keep our minds open to that.
Mike could be a wolf here and zedus just layed the perfect cover.
August 18th, 2020, 08:46 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Okay, well. I'm the vigi.
Yeah i figured
August 18th, 2020, 08:46 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
I'm not voting shit until someone dies from poison. if it's me then rip.
August 18th, 2020, 08:46 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
That could be perfect scum wifom tho with zedus LW.
August 18th, 2020, 08:47 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
@Gyrlander
, sorry buddy. But I'll address this in the after game.
August 18th, 2020, 08:47 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
I'm not voting shit until someone dies from poison. if it's me then rip.
Then its kingmaker tho, kingmaker not ideal for town
August 18th, 2020, 08:49 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Then its kingmaker tho, kingmaker not ideal for town
are you saying we vote before someone dies to poison? if so, you may be correct.
August 18th, 2020, 08:50 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
are you saying we vote before someone dies to poison? if so, you may be correct.
wait, no. cause then im banking on virus killing the last mafia.
August 18th, 2020, 08:51 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
are you saying we vote before someone dies to poison? if so, you may be correct.
Here is my quick opinion. Why would you leave a LW as a wolf, other than to mislead town.
August 18th, 2020, 08:53 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
I just wanna say if you hoover over my green bars on the side, it will kindly remind you I carry the town on my back. Thanks
August 18th, 2020, 08:53 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Here is my quick opinion. Why would you leave a LW as a wolf, other than to mislead town.
I agree. But he's my other quick opinion. Why say like 5 times that the last person to last vote is scum and then quick lynch twice in a row.
August 18th, 2020, 08:57 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Kind of disappointed the only time I can get Gyrlander lynched is when he's town. But again, I'll get back to this later.
August 18th, 2020, 08:59 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
I agree. But he's my other quick opinion. Why say like 5 times that the last person to last vote is scum and then quick lynch twice in a row.
Indeed =\
August 18th, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Indeed =\
I was honestly under the impression that it was 5 votes to lynch. That really fucked town. Of course, scum is the only person to notice the host error. I was watching the thread like a hawk. Had I known it was 4 to lynch, I wouldn't have let Zedus hammer like that. I would have removed my vote.
August 18th, 2020, 09:05 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
So then i think our best bet is to wait and see who dies, hopefully its not you :)
August 18th, 2020, 09:06 AM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Unless we know for sure Martins the wolf, but thats kinda hard to know lol
August 18th, 2020, 09:07 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Unless we know for sure Martins the wolf, but thats kinda hard to know lol
well, if youre town, from your POV, it's gotta be martin or mike.
August 18th, 2020, 09:07 AM
MartinGG99
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Alright, I have two sections of things to say, and coincidentally this will be presented in a similar format to the case I presented at SoD2.
The first addresses a few things that were said or suggested about me prior to EoD3 after I left the game/thread till EoD passed.
The second addresses and advocates my concerns about Mesk514.
Spoiler : Defense :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
If you're truly town, move your vote to gyrlander
First off, you're implying just because he's the #2 on both my lists I should just vote him. I disagree with this. I gave an accompanying point in the summaries post that Gyrlander's slot was going to be re-evalutated if Zedus flipped red. I don't think a scum teammate would vote to yeet / bus Zedus on D2 when they could've lied low and just voted one of the two in the thunder-dome.
Despite that, you voted to end Gyrlander's life rather than to try to find out their alignment through other means such as the yeet of Zedus.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
@MartinGG99
Bitch, I see you browsing the thread. Don't run away from me
This is a completely baseless accusation here. I was participating in Mafia Universe's public discord at the time where they hosted the "Muvie night" event. If you don't believe me, I strongly encourage you to join the Mafia Universe discord (invite accessible via Mafia Universe's website) and look/search for discord messages by Martin in the #muvie-nights channel.
Furthermore, the movie were viewing was one I had not seen before (called Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I know its an old movie, but it was old enough for me to have been born and never hear of it until recently). Why would I go to watch it for the first time if I were to just browse this thread instead? It makes no sense. This is nothing more than an attempt to scum paint me for something I did not do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
The hard push Gyr has on Zedus. Martin Trying to lych wolf over virus according to his own reads. Frinckles will not see any world Blink is not Scum.
Martin has gyr as his number 2 wolf and number 2 virus and not voting on him.
Martin has zedus as his number 1 wolf and Lowest Virus read. voting on him.
I explained why above, in my first response in this spoiler'ed defense.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
but long posts don't really mean anything. & when you come down to it, his reads are basically, anyone can be anything. LOL
Doesn't this apply to every reads list ever? They're basically statements of
"Who I think is least likely to be scum",
"Who I think is most likely to be scum",
"Who I want to yeet today",
Etc.
If you're suddenly attacking me for that when I simply made my reads more elaborate, while this principle applies to all past reads lists before hand, then you've very slowly came to this conclusion & have excluded it from applying to anyone else;
Or you're just saying a huge piece of nothingness because you know it applies to everyone, and this is just a faulty attempt to scum paint me here.
Spoiler : Mesk514 isn't town :
First and foremost, that I'm going to point out, is Mesk514's activity. She didn't start posting much (if at all, relatively) up until D3. 121 out of her 192 posts were made on D3, which accounts for approximately 63% of her posts over the course of the game at EoD3's point.
This is the primary reason why I said I would ISO her (and a secret reason why I wouldn't vote Gyrlander on D3), because she used to post very little but I felt like she suddenly was posting a whole lot more. Upon which I can ISO to gain valuable information -- something must have encouraged her to come out from being UTR. Something made her to want to nearly triple the number of posts she had from SoD3 to EoD3.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Yes, but that became part of my Meta because I mostly role Cit. Case in point.
Everyone, provided they play enough games that aren't for example, role madness, is going to role Citizen / Vanilla Town most often because in the vast majority of setups that kind of role is the most common, or at least roles that are mechanically similar or the same. This means nothing.
Spoiler : Evidence Exhibit A :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Also, I'm going to remove my vote from Bakermir, because I think the probability of him being scum if slightly low. I'm going to write him off as dumb with a dumb play.
I'll move my vote to renegade, the reason for that is because I think he is the only person to benefit from Awut's death. Also cause blink is on that train. Choochoo, citizen mesk using her brain power. Look at me go
-vote Renegade
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
dear lord, I can't believe I am saying this because he's a total twit but Bakermir is not an ideal lynch for today. hot damn.
He is absolutely correct. When you look at Auwt's ISO, Renegade definitely benefits the most from his death. Perhaps maybe Zedus as well, but Zedus has provided more substance than Renegade for sure.
@blinkskater , I encurage you to entrust a dear old friend here.
@Mike as well
@MartinGG99 YOU TOO BUDDY
I am calling out the three people who I believe are capable of making the right decision here.
Here (along with a few other posts), Mesk seems to demonstrate a strong belief that townies are killed by wolves based on who they accuse or suspect. She even votes him.
However, on D3, this belief isn't repeated once Renegade died to the wolves on night 2. Renegade suspected me and Zedus on D1 and/or D2, yet Mesk is here back-tracking on Zedus a fair bit on the later parts of D3. See the list of quotes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Zedus, I hope you know by your own theory, you definitely should be looked at.
& Now that I think about it, by my own reasoning, you should be looked at the same way I wanted Renegade looked at considering Auwt poked the interaction between you (Zedus) and Renegade.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
WHAT IS THIS READS LIST. OMG Zedus, if you're town, you dont make it easy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
SCENARIO 1
Mesk
Blink
Mike
Gyrlander
Martin
Frinckles
DM
Zedus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
HONESTLY, I don't even want to list the rest out. this is probably the most likely scenario
-vote Dark Magic
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Well, when I originally read the interaction between Zedus and Renegade, I originally felt Zedus was more the towny than Renegade.
I think I may have gotten it wrong there when I originally said Renegade is the only person who benefitted from Auwt's death. In fact, I guess in a way, Zedus would as well. The thing that stumps me, is that Auwt could have possibly been the most random of random deaths. If I were scum, I probably would have killed him too, cause his death gives basically 0 information.
Then I think back to what Zedus said yesterday about Dark Magic and how his top two pushers had died as if DM had killed them both (which was mechanically possible) and then I come to DM's defense about it, and basically dismiss it as a setup.
But then you have Renegade, that person who Zedus claimed to have a problem with/history with, and the only person to have poked on that interaction dead. IS IT A SETUP, or is Zedus scum. I don't know, my brain isnt wired for complex problems like this.
although I must say, his reads list totally threw me off
Here she CLEARLY backtracks on her belief earlier despite seemingly believing it so much as to be a cause to vote someone (Renegade) on D2. And yet I don't see any votes here on Zedus other than "i'm willing to vote him" :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
I would vote Zedus, yes.
Also, I'm playing heroes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
like, Zedus, my friend... how are you just gonna pull shit outta your ass like that. The man wasn't even here day one
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Okay, I read all 40+ of Varcron's posts. This is what I find interesting...
1 - at the beginning he was slightly town reading Zedus, or at least jumping to Zedus's aid
2 - overtime, for no reason at all, he started scum reading Zedus. in fact, Zedus was his only scum read.
he never actually had any conversation about frinckles, or with frinckles, besides asking frinckles how he feels about me.
he only touched upon Gyrlander once, saying that he needs to be looked at tomorrow.
I'm willing to bet here that Dark Magician was actually town.
This doesn't give a clear indication about negative or positive views on Zedus, yet I can imagine it being a setup for either view. Some can say this is spew, some can say its anti-spew, by Varcron. Its fence-sitting almost, making points without making any sort of declaration when it feels like there should be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Because I am genuinely stumped.
I will say I had him marked in both my Day 1 and Day 2 LW, even if he didn't participate Day 1, I still wrote he was someone to look out for.
I want to say he's scum, but if he's town, he's a mislynch I can live with. The thing that bothers me is that his scum game is definitely more proactive and much more hostile, but "fuck you I'm going to bed" and literally providing nothing just doesn't cut it. Town really needs to start carrying their own weight here and at least attempt to solve it.
I offered to vote DM earlier and he said No, Zedus first. So, by that thought process, I guess he would be the Virus, but I'll take what I can get.
It's also difficult to have 2 people, when it's 5 people to lynch and 7 people alive, park their vote and fuck off basically saying they have no clue if they'll be around for EoD. If Martin and Gyrlander are genuinely town, we may already be fucked.
The only cred I'll really give Martin is that he appears to be proactive, but long posts don't really mean anything. & when you come down to it, his reads are basically, anyone can be anything. LOL
Zedus's reads may be trash, but at least his reactions seem genuine.
More back-tracking on the idea of yeeting Zedus or putting suspicion on him. Also I don't recall her ever saying anything about anybody's reactions before. Its out of the blue.
My conclusion: There are huge or significant inconsistencies as to how she treats Zedus. It honestly looks like as if she was almost ready to yeet Zedus near SoD3 but now at EoD3 it looks like "I will reluctantly vote Zedus if I have to" -- Why is this!? There's a big, general, back-tracking over the course of D3 that doesn't show a clear progression of thought, if at all.
This raises the prospect of a Mesk + Zedus team.
Spoiler : Evidence Exhibit B :
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
I've been teeter-tottering with the way I read you since yesterday. I would agree you're not into your normal scum play & willing to maybe consider you part of town core.
But not as much as I would consider Mike.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
the way I see it
Blink
Gyrlander
Me
Mike
Martin
So doesn't matter
This post isn't clearly explained, but judging by the context, this is her "town list", as there are 5 towns at the time. Note that Gyrlander is on this list, as well as me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Okay, I read all 40+ of Varcron's posts. This is what I find interesting...
1 - at the beginning he was slightly town reading Zedus, or at least jumping to Zedus's aid
2 - overtime, for no reason at all, he started scum reading Zedus. in fact, Zedus was his only scum read.
he never actually had any conversation about frinckles, or with frinckles, besides asking frinckles how he feels about me.
he only touched upon Gyrlander once, saying that he needs to be looked at tomorrow.
I'm willing to bet here that Dark Magician was actually town.
Similar to my points in Exhibit A in regards to this post, this can be viewed as spew or anti-spew. Mesk doesn't say which, and is basically fence-sitting here by not making the declaration to either side.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
which one of these cock suckers didn't want to vote dark magician today? I know Gyrlander... then Frinckles... anyone else?
Okay. Within the context that DM died to poison recently, this shows a reasonable progression to start suspecting Gyrlander on the basis of being virus. For this post only, though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
I will say @Mike , if Gyrlander is scum, his scum play has improved by 2010%.
This seems to suggest that Gyrlander is viewed as towny by her. Looking at other posts in this thread who mention a player's name and their scum play being improved or really good, this is generally seen or expressed as a compliment and that they're towny.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
@Gyrlander ,
Can I have your ideal scums, & why. and then reads on the remaining people who you don't scum read? can be brief, can be long... something
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrlander
Joking (no) I'm on mobile and going to sleep. However, I believe I've made my reads clear. Most if not all can be based on gut/tone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
-.- CAN YOU GIVE ME A FUCKING LIST THEN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrlander
I told you: Frinckles Blink Zedus.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
I ask blink and frinckles for better options, blink offers up everyone else beside him, myself and mike. LOL
frinckles offers reads but no actual clear concise "these are my three scum reads"
Gyrlander offers 3 people based on gut and tone
Martin offers everyone besides himself as an option for wolf and virus.
heh
yeah
fuck my life
@Mike , send halp
No declaration. Leaves it as it is with no personal insights. Leaves Mike to do the thinking for her.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
If you're truly town, move your vote to gyrlander
This was made even before Mike got to respond to the one before it by Mesk514 here. This is an out-of-nowhere started attempt at pushing Gyrlander. Not to mention, she's clearly ignoring my summaries where they suggest we could see Gyrlander as towny if Zedus flipped red. No, clearly, yeeting Gyrlander is the better option here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Because I am genuinely stumped.
I will say I had him marked in both my Day 1 and Day 2 LW, even if he didn't participate Day 1, I still wrote he was someone to look out for.
I want to say he's scum, but if he's town, he's a mislynch I can live with. The thing that bothers me is that his scum game is definitely more proactive and much more hostile, but "fuck you I'm going to bed" and literally providing nothing just doesn't cut it. Town really needs to start carrying their own weight here and at least attempt to solve it.
I offered to vote DM earlier and he said No, Zedus first. So, by that thought process, I guess he would be the Virus, but I'll take what I can get.
It's also difficult to have 2 people, when it's 5 people to lynch and 7 people alive, park their vote and fuck off basically saying they have no clue if they'll be around for EoD. If Martin and Gyrlander are genuinely town, we may already be fucked.
The only cred I'll really give Martin is that he appears to be proactive, but long posts don't really mean anything. & when you come down to it, his reads are basically, anyone can be anything. LOL
Zedus's reads may be trash, but at least his reactions seem genuine.
Within the context of this post, its clear she's throwing shade at me and Gyrlander. And yet, look at the other quotes here. She was town-reading us both at times, even putting us on a 5-player town list.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Literally the only thing I would bet my ability to orgasm on
This is a response to a vote on Gyrlander by Mike
My Conclusion:Once again, as shown previously in Exhibit A, there are significant differences to her SoD3 beliefs as compared to her EoD3 beliefs. Not to mention (as suggested before by me in this case), she ignored the possiblity of yeeting Zedus to get info on Gyrlander's alignment as possibly town. Oh look, Gyrlander flipped town.
Also raises the prospect of a Mesk + Zedus team, but this is just overall scummy.
Spoiler : Evidence Exhibit C :
I should clarify what this Exhibit is about, before you start reading: Basically, I think Mesk here has decent possiblity of being Virus here. Its a collection of quotes that I think may be Virus indicative.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Well, firstly, you can't have any evidence against me whatsoever. So.
-vote Bakermir
Secondly, I don't know the dude, nor did I read into much of what he said as "talking down to like a child". So I actually don't really care. It came off more to me like someone who's first language isn't english.
Aside from her Renegade push in the later half of D2, Mesk is rather defensive and other than that just passive. Rather little amounts of scum-hunting or activity, especially when compared to D3 (with the aforementioned fact that she nearly triples her post count in a single day). Her final D2 vote is on bakermir due to the thunder-dome.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
@MartinGG99 , join the train
Made after the Renegade vote, this seems like she's trying to manipulate me via the fact that Renegade had differences with me. The virus, in my opinion, wants to stir up trouble where they can, because they can, since their only objective is to live to the end. Mafia would be less inclined to do this as this might cause some sort of "friendly fire" among their team, depending on circumstances.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
dear lord, I can't believe I am saying this because he's a total twit but Bakermir is not an ideal lynch for today. hot damn.
He is absolutely correct. When you look at Auwt's ISO, Renegade definitely benefits the most from his death. Perhaps maybe Zedus as well, but Zedus has provided more substance than Renegade for sure.
@blinkskater , I encurage you to entrust a dear old friend here.
@Mike as well
@MartinGG99 YOU TOO BUDDY
I am calling out the three people who I believe are capable of making the right decision here.
Although she does say she's calling out people capable of making the "right decision", its strange that she doesn't call out Zedus even though Renegade has attacked Zedus before on D2.
This seems like a scum-slip by Mesk where she knows Zedus, her teammate, will vote him if the oppertunity presents itself if this push becomes more viable. Although, that's Wolf-indicative, not virus-indicative.
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
HONESTLY, I don't even want to list the rest out. this is probably the most likely scenario
-vote Dark Magic
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
-vote Dark Magician
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
tbf I'll unvote so no quick lynches
-vote unvote
First, she makes an early vote against DM that has a typo in it. Later, she makes sure her vote counts....and 5 minutes later unvotes out of "quick lynch" concerns. Then, later......
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
@Mike , how you feeling today booboo?
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Originally Posted by Mesk514;
I agree with everything you said @Mike , I'm with ya whichever way you wanna go.
I as well scum read baker.
Prodding for manipulation. Trying to get on Mike's "good side". I would be inclined to think that virus is more likely to try and openly do this as opposed to wolves, but its possible that's just my opinion
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
I'm thinking two things here. First, coming into the day, the virus wouldn't want to lynch DM knowing theyre going to die anyways. Second, the ideal play for the virus would be to kill a member of the mafia last night, as that increases the chances of them winning drastically.
......She puts out this. Which conveniently "clears" herself of being virus. The unvote out of "quick lynch" fear was just icing on the cake in order to try and LAMIST ("Look at me, I'm so town").
My Overall conclusion:Mesk has displayed posts and behaviors of which I find to be either wolf-indicative, virus-idicative, or just simply scum-indicative. If she's a wolf though, I think her most likeliest teammate here is Zedus.
Lets also not forget she tripled her post-count on D3. I think in either the case of a Wolf, or more so as a Virus, you would need to solidify your control of the end-game situation. Yes, this could be part of her "meta" but if she has done so much analysis or "reading" for D1 and D2 to make analyses and world-building and etcetera, why does she have so little to show for it? Her overall progress on D3 was just back-tracking on Zedus and yeet Grylander who had a low post-count. She had so little to show about others on D3 despite sitting back for the most part of D1 and partially on D2.
All of her D3 was a bunch of indirect fence-sitting and manipulation attempts, while trying to sound contributory in content such as "clearing" those of being virus (for voting Dark Magician) when that included herself, as well as silently back-track on Zedus.
I'm practically done with this. I think she's just as scummy, if not more scummy than Zedus.
No way in hell this just because of her "meta" that's been brought up by not only her but also others early on.
August 18th, 2020, 09:08 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
@MartinGG99
, what drugs are you smoking my guy. send me some
August 18th, 2020, 09:09 AM
MartinGG99
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
Okay, well. I'm the vigi.
wait what
August 18th, 2020, 09:09 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
Correct yourself Martin, or get fucked.
August 18th, 2020, 09:10 AM
MartinGG99
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by MartinGG99
wait what
why were you back-tracking on......
i guess you were vigi but we could've easily yeeted Zedus there, didn't have to waste a shot on him >.<
August 18th, 2020, 09:13 AM
MartinGG99
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
Correct yourself Martin, or get fucked.
I mean, how tf were you vigi imo
You tripled your posts on D3
And you back-tracked on Zedus
While getting Gyrlander yeeted for very little public thought progression
So im like wtf here
August 18th, 2020, 09:13 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by MartinGG99
why were you back-tracking on......
i guess you were vigi but we could've easily yeeted Zedus there, didn't have to waste a shot on him >.<
again, this will be addressed in the after game... but if you want to know my thought process, I wasn't expecting the host to make an error that would be corrected by the scum for his benefit. It wasn't corrected the first time, soooo ya know.... yeah. SO.
Gyrlander was useless. he should have been lynched instead of bakermir. It's called a town liability. If you look at my very old games, Day 1, I always vote gyrlander for that reason. If he's scum, people buy his bullshit, and if he's town, he's a massive liability. I wanted confirmation on how I was feeling about him. I didn't expect Zedus to come and quick lynch him given I was under the impression it was five votes to lynch.
August 18th, 2020, 09:14 AM
Mesk514
Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by MartinGG99
I mean, how tf were you vigi imo
You tripled your posts on D3
And you back-tracked on Zedus
While getting Gyrlander yeeted for very little public thought progression
So im like wtf here
It's called playing like shit so you don't get shot the first couple of nights.