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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Yes, vaguely. I've gone over potential teams. Here are a few without Paopan:
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Oberon/Auwt/Oliverz
Luona/Jmw/Oliverz/Auwt
MM/Oliverz/Jmw/Luona
MM/Oliverz/Auwt/Oberon
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Oliverz
I don't particularly think the Oliverz ones are very likely, so if Paopan is town, the following teams would be possible:
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Any team with MM has to have an explanation for where the n1 kill went, just fyi. For any with PQR, that's your answer; for any without? I doubt MM no-kills UNLESS Lolde is on his team, as that would risk framing a mafia by accident.
So in reality the team options look like this:
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Hm. Interesting, jmw, you are kinda right, and kinda not. If auwt scum, then paopan is too scum. If auwt town, paopan is too town.
and
@
Auwt
i think that you + porn is possible too.
especially coz he asked jmw in card chat not to kill auwt and paopan.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes :)
Your associations are basically throwing individual reads out the window and dismissing possibilities of whiteknighting/pocketing here. If Paopan is scum, Auwt is ery likely scum too and vice versa, both for association and for individual scumminess. But if one of them is town, it's not excluded that Auwt whiteknighted town!Paopan or that scum!Paopan managed to pocket a town!Auwt (although this last scenario seems really unlikely given how dishonestly Auwt is defending him).
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
NotPaopan
Scums targeted MM. CD bussed MM and Oliver. Oliver self-attacked = No scum kill
Wasn't I scum to you earlier today? What made you magically change your mind? Your example doesn't even require to use me specifically, but just any townread you supposedly have... so your reads are absolutely not honest lol.
This is caught scum at this point.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Mike
Everyoen agrees mayor gikkle there is one mafia between then but they are not teamsed correct?
Second if we don’t lynch a scum today and mayor is scum we lose. Unless viggy shoots mayor. If mayor and viggy both scum sum wins tomorrow if they all get on same time and hammer. But if viggy is town he can shoot mayor in the night if escort flips town giving us another day.
Correct. We really should be lynching Paopan here. If he flips scum, Gikkle is confirmed town and I can heal while Luona busses me with someone else (and if I die, Luona is highly suspicious). From there, associations should start popping out.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Any team with MM has to have an explanation for where the n1 kill went, just fyi. For any with PQR, that's your answer; for any without? I doubt MM no-kills UNLESS Lolde is on his team, as that would risk framing a mafia by accident.
So in reality the team options look like this:
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too
Amazing, so this is 100% not 99% in the end.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Wasn't I scum to you earlier today? What made you magically change your mind? Your example doesn't even require to use me specifically, but just any townread you supposedly have... so your reads are absolutely not honest lol.
This is caught scum at this point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NotPaopan
If this is true. Scum are as follows:
Gikkle, Oliver, Loldebite, Oberon
At least take into account the next post...
Sigh.
Of course if you cut off the context, you can make sure any post says anything.
And especially what you want to make them say.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
He also fled away before saying who he did heal.
Nice.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Auwt
He also fled away before saying who he did heal.
Nice.
He did say he healed Mike earlier, i believe. CBA looking for the post.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/Luona/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Let me just go ahead and remove the incorrect teams really quickly...
MM/Luona/Oberon/Auwt
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Now you have this.
First one, easily eliminated, if Luona and MM are both scum and PQR isn't then there is 0 explanation for scum having no kill N1. Don't say they holstered.
Second team never happens either because Auwt would perform any kill instead of PQR. And they wouldn't hit Frinckles because MM is scum and healing there. And they wouldn't have been swapped onto Oliver as that implies they nightkill their own teammate.
Your analysis here actually just says to me that you/Pao is impossible to be T/T because I know I'm town and the teams you have that make a T/T possible that don't include me can be easily eliminated with logic.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
add at the end Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too, which is technically possible. Oberon stepped on PQR's toes a bit but that could be intentional distancing.
Oh and this team possibility.
In this world, still need an explanation for no kill N1 and the options are very few.
You are basically limited to scum Auwt attacking Frinckles N1. Not entirely impossible I guess.
But in this world, a scum Oberon jailed Paopan and didn't execute - why?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Wasn't I scum to you earlier today? What made you magically change your mind? Your example doesn't even require to use me specifically, but just any townread you supposedly have... so your reads are absolutely not honest lol.
This is caught scum at this point.
What do you mean that the example is interchangeable? Doesn't it refer to Luona's stated N1 swap specifically?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Any team with MM has to have an explanation for where the n1 kill went, just fyi. For any with PQR, that's your answer; for any without? I doubt MM no-kills UNLESS Lolde is on his team, as that would risk framing a mafia by accident.
So in reality the team options look like this:
MM/PQR/Auwt/Jmw
MM/PQR/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/Jmw/Oberon/Auwt
Luona/PQR/Oberon/Auwt too
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jmw
Let me just go ahead and remove the incorrect teams really quickly...
Let me just go ahead and remove the incorrect teams really quickly :
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
We are not having another no lynch day This is so bs. I don’t care if we lynch mayor or gikkle but we need to flip one to find the other today. I will hammer eather one BUTWe neeed a lynch today no matter what. And we need to figure out this Gikkle/mayor we need to hit a mafia but lynch or viggy shot
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Ah, heck it. Paopan isn't townie, there's no way I get 6 people to join me in 4 hours on Auwt, and the information from Paopan's flip will solve the game. Even if I don't like the narrative people are pushing about Paopan, it's still a good lynch.
-vote NotPaopan
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Loght jmw you are my town pick a train I will follow you 2 but we need a lynch before 4 pm eod in 3and a half hours we need to lynch one of the 2 today please town don’t hand this win to the mafia no lynch = bad
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
-vote NotPaopan
We need to lynch viggy if mafia shoot who you belive is partnered . If town shoot gikkle.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Viggy remember don’t shoot awut if he flips mafia you will die to alert he is compulsive Akers every night.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
My lynch break is over please town vote here please don’t let this go we need this flip
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mike
-vote NotPaopan
We need to lynch viggy if mafia shoot who you belive is partnered . If town shoot gikkle.
what happened to cop checking me
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
what happened to cop checking me
No way we going into tomorrow if mayor flips town with you being able to take mayors vote and auto winning as mafia.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
what happened to cop checking me
Do you know something we don’t???? Thought you where positive he was mafia???
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mike
No way we going into tomorrow if mayor flips town with you being able to take mayors vote and auto winning as mafia.
I can't take mayor's vote. Read the role card.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
That is a verry odd response. Mayor was ok with lynching you and viggy shooting him. You want coo to check you becise I find out you are mafia but your mafia team have the votes to win when day starts you talking mayors votes.
I think we are on the wrong lynch train everyone..
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
I can't take mayor's vote. Read the role card.
Wait you can’t?? I am on my phone as student are comming back from lynch
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mike
Do you know something we don’t???? Thought you where positive he was mafia???
Have you read anything I've said in the last like, 2 pages?
I'm positive Auwt's mafia. Paopan is scummy, but I wouldn't stake my life on him flipping scum lol.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mike
Wait you can’t?? I am on my phone as student are comming back from lynch
Grave Digger
Once per day, you may target any character in the graveyard, gaining all of their CHARACTER abilities for the rest of that day and the following night.
Survivalists or vigilantes who died as citizens are treated as having no character ability.
Saving yourself as a survivalist or killing a town aligned character as a vigilante will permanently convert you to a citizen (losing all character abilities, but not faction abilities).
You may NOT target a dead mayor, all other roles are fair game.
^^^^
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Ok this is good he can not target a few mayor I feel so much better we are not in lylow .
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Have you read anything I've said in the last like, 2 pages?
I'm positive Auwt's mafia. Paopan is scummy, but I wouldn't stake my life on him flipping scum lol.
No I have not been able to teaching a class today I am having to quickly well I have to go they all back.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
I wonder what kind of face you guys gonna have when you will realize Paopan is town.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Auwt
I wonder what kind of face you guys gonna have when you will realize Paopan is town.
Who do you suggest the scum team is, exactly?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Who do you suggest the scum team is, exactly?
First two are bandits, other uncertain.
Gikkle - Oliver
And two from that pool : Oberon - Loldebite - MM - (maybe) PQR
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Auwt
First two are bandits, other uncertain.
Gikkle - Oliver
And two from that pool : Oberon - Loldebite - MM - (maybe) PQR
And can you explain all of these reads?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
And can you explain all of these reads?
I won't bother repeating myself just to see that a person hammered him in between.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Auwt
I won't bother repeating myself just to see that a person hammered him in between.
"Repeating myself"
you realize that like none of your base reads are explained, right? Literally the most you've done is interaction reads based on other reads which you never explained in the first place.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
I actually envy Paopan.
Like he is about to get out off this nightmare second.
Maybe I should have never defended myself.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
"Repeating myself"
you realize that like none of your base reads are explained, right? Literally the most you've done is interaction reads based on other reads which you never explained in the first place.
VCA from D1,D2,D3 talks by itself here.
Target picking talks by itself here.
Defending/deflecting talks by itself here.
I did not even quote any of your post and I know you are bandit as well as oliver.
Sounds crazy right?
That's because the game is crazy.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Auwt
VCA from D1,D2,D3 talks by itself here.
Target picking talks by itself here.
Defending/deflecting talks by itself here.
I did not even quote any of your post and I know you are bandit as well as oliver.
Sounds crazy right?
That's because the game is crazy.
Saying it "talks by itself" is not an explanation.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Gikkle
Saying it "talks by itself" is not an explanation.
Does 1+1 = 2 needs an explanation?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Auwt
Let me just go ahead and remove the incorrect teams really quickly :
Good post
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
I'll hammer Pao if it comes down to it but not until day is about to end.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mike
Loght jmw you are my town pick a train I will follow you 2 but we need a lynch before 4 pm eod in 3and a half hours we need to lynch one of the 2 today please town don’t hand this win to the mafia no lynch = bad
EOD is in 24h+.
I don't mind the other not telling you because why would they anyway.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall
Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jmw
NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall
Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)
YoU aCtUaLlY nEeDs To FoRmAtE yOuR reAdS tO fInD wHo Is ScUm AnD eXpLaIn.
Sorry for this.
Funny jokes apart, yes, it is definitely not pure.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
r u confident giggles scum :<
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jmw
NotPaopan (6 [L-1]):
Oberon, Mike, Gikkle, oliverz144, Loldebite, Marshmallow Marshall
Thoughts on this wagon being pure? (hint: it's not)
Can you repeat/quote what you think is the scum team is again?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
luona
r u confident giggles scum :<
Are you confident the train on Paopan is good looking?
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Auwt
Does 1+1 = 2 needs an explanation?
That's not an equivalent.
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Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)
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Originally Posted by
Auwt
Are you confident the train on Paopan is good looking?
no