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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
This looks like scum imitating frustrated town and delighted by the prospect of an easy win by killing another strong player tonight.
Big scum points for Mag.
Isn't that a bit, well, obvious or simple? Maybe TWTBAW as a stand-alone statement.
Did you have other reasons for suspecting Mag or is this your sole source of "big scum points"?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Other than that, in my townleans, I like Martin for his not too bad walls
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didn't someone say those were NAI or something?
or was that not in this game?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
I'm also seeing (what I think) are a whole bunch of Bahkieh nudges from MM and I don't like it tbh unless MM already thinks he's probably town anyways
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looking at the past 3 or 4 pages here's what I feel:
SJ town (too oddball to be scum and has good thoughts)
DM possibly town (outburst seemed towny and reminded me of my past town games)
Magoroth possibly town (TWTBAW?)
MM null (I think I felt he was towny before but not as much now or something's up)
NoticZ null (feel like we're giving him too much credit as a replacement)
bahkieh sus (Unnecessary outburst?)
samson sus (because policy)
withholding my read on Varcron because of questions
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I'll be back later, prob tomorrow or Tuesday to take any questions
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
we're still voting samson?
I thought things might've changed but it seems like the only thing that did is for somer eason my vote is missing and that I'm voted by bahk
Do you TR them or something?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
Guess not?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
I'm not sure if you actually think or know Samson is scum here or not given that I didn't see a vote by you in the VC on Samson
like, this is full defensive without considering that the argument that DM (seemingly) makes is that you would also be town if samson is town
DM's argument that I am town if Samson is town is a double edged sword with me apparently being scum if Samson is scum
This is because a few pages ago (forget the exact post) SJ put Samson up to L1, I immediately took off my vote as to not invite an early hammer.
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Originally Posted by MartinGG99
It's only a week early at the time of the above quote...it'd be like hammering 30 hours into a 48 hour game.
There is a fair bit more discussion, like the discussion you and I are now having, that can be done in the next few days before we drop a hammer. We are already set on who we are lynching (Samson) but there are questions that people have that can be answered before we lose another town member next night.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
not sure why DM wants Samson to be very-dead other than it seems to help his solve?
with the current VC though it could be a self-pres thing and idk how I feel about it
if he had not much pressure it'd look better in my eyes imo
I mean I was always voting Samson before I was voted.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
I'm not sure if you actually think or know Samson is scum here or not given that I didn't see a vote by you in the VC on Samson
like, this is full defensive without considering that the argument that DM (seemingly) makes is that you would also be town if samson is town
I forgot to reply to the first part of this
I believe Samson is scum; however, I do not believe in a few day early lynch when we can speak more and get more from other people.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
Ok reading from all of what Martin just posted.
He is more town to me now.
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Not to mention the mind meld we both have regarding MM.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
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didn't someone say those were NAI or something?
or was that not in this game?
I said they were NAI, and I still believe that they are NAI. That was a week or two ago now though.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
Or at least Semi- Mind Melt.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
DM's argument that I am town if Samson is town is a double edged sword with me apparently being scum if Samson is scum
This is because a few pages ago (forget the exact post) SJ put Samson up to L1, I immediately took off my vote as to not invite an early hammer.
There is a fair bit more discussion, like the discussion you and I are now having, that can be done in the next few days before we drop a hammer. We are already set on who we are lynching (Samson) but there are questions that people have that can be answered before we lose another town member next night.
The last part here indicates you believe Samson is going to flip scum.
TMI.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by MartinGG99
Did you have other reasons for suspecting Mag or is this your sole source of "big scum points"?
Up until this point I had nothing on Mag suspecting him of being scum from my POV
Now he is more center with a slight town lean as from my perspective.
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Last time I remember you were more in the Neutral Zone on that.
While I’m the one hard pushing that he’s scum.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I forgot to reply to the first part of this
I believe Samson is scum; however, I do not believe in a few day early lynch when we can speak more and get more from other people.
If you believe he’s scum so much, why didn’t you do more to pressure him?
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Or at least mention that he’s scum a million times like I did.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I said they were NAI, and I still believe that they are NAI. That was a week or two ago now though.
So do you disagree with MM’s read on Martin?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
The last part here indicates you believe Samson is going to flip scum.
TMI.
I do believe Samson will skip scum, he has spoken in nothing but riddles and been a useless (now semi active) person posting.
My plan is in the next ~2 or 3 days to hammer assuming no other discussion takes place, but I'd rather we discuss to get as clear reads as possible for a good set up for tomorrow.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
Up until this point I had nothing on Mag suspecting him of being scum from my POV
Now he is more center with a slight town lean as from my perspective.
Who’s your top TR then?
MM?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I do believe Samson will skip scum, he has spoken in nothing but riddles and been a useless (now semi active) person posting.
My plan is in the next ~2 or 3 days to hammer assuming no other discussion takes place, but I'd rather we discuss to get as clear reads as possible for a good set up for tomorrow.
To hammer?
Also, why skip instead of flip?
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
So do you disagree with MM’s read on Martin?
I do to an extent, I don't believe that the big wall posts from Martin are alignment indicative. I still slightly town read martin, but just not to the extent of MM.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
To hammer?
Also, why skip instead of flip?
I don't understand the question.
Hammer as in lynch seeing as Samson is now sitting at L1.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I do to an extent, I don't believe that the big wall posts from Martin are alignment indicative. I still slightly town read martin, but just not to the extent of MM.
I don’t think it’s “too the extent” but rather different reasoning.
As until Martin’s recent Posts I had him as a Minor Scum Lean.
Now he’s a Minor Town Lean.
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We have different perspectives and methods to TR people but we all usually make the same conclusion eventually.
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Unless the player can’t make himself look Townie.
In which case, some players just will never TR them.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
I don't understand the question.
Hammer as in lynch seeing as Samson is now sitting at L1.
You decided to use Word “Skip” instead of “Flip”
Was it a grammer mistake or was it for a certain purpose?
Also, I have no objections if you hammer.
But others might IDK.
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Personally I’d like you to hammer so I can have that flip.
But meh.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
Dark Magician
You decided to use Word “Skip” instead of “Flip”
Was it a grammer mistake or was it for a certain purpose?
Also, I have no objections if you hammer.
But others might IDK.
Oh, I thought I used flip there.
My b.
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Quite honestly I just realized from scums perspective.
I’m their only kill tonight if they don’t want to be Semi-Outted.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
IDRC though.
I help remove their partner Samson.
I’m Gucci.
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See With a certain flip I can tell if Varcron really is scum or if it’s MM.
Then I remove the one leaving Noc as the remaining PoE in if whoever out of MM/Varcron is not scum.
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Essentially removing me, gives Scum a chance to widen the PoE.
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If we don't end day in 48 earth-hours from now, I'm going to role claim.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
S-FM Magoroth
If we don't end day in 48 earth-hours from now, I'm going to role claim.
Same. Should be obvious though.
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Let's just proceed to the next day. It's close enough now and people have made their stances on contributing clear.
-vote Samson
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Samson has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Samson (5 [L-0]): Dark Magician, SuperJack, S-FM Magoroth, NoctiZ, MartinGG99
Dark Magician (1 [L-4]): Marshmallow Marshall
MartinGG99 (1 [L-4]): Bahkieh
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
DAY 2 IS OVER AND THE NIGHT HAS FINALLY BEGUN!!
https://www.universetoday.com/wp-con...arctic_iss.jpg
Samson. A very energetic being that had a lot to live for. The forces of Heaven decided this soul was a heretic and banished him from the gates! They brutalized him and sent him off on his way. When Samson was banished, they were able to get a glimpse of his true soul.... and it was beautiful.
He was just an ordinary Angel For the forces of heaven. This loss was unfortunate... but we must keep our heads high and our eyes on the prize: Satan's death.
Make sure to submit night actions before start of day! Thanks.
Night 2 Ends February 19th at 11:00 AM
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DAY 3 HAS BEGUN!
https://theadversaryanovelbydangerva...ore_angels.jpg
The unfortunate news of Samson the angels demise from heaven hath spread far and wide. The morale of the Heavenly armies dwindles by the day. The Angels Hearken upon us the new day and with it a new surprise. Whether or not this surprise is good or not remains to be seen.
The rest of the denizens of heaven scurry over to the commotion. There he lay, his body laying upon a pentagram looking gruesome. The body of S-FM Magoroth. His identity was that of a Soul Probe Angel secretly working with the upper echelons of Heaven. His death was a very tragic loss... Will the angels of heaven be able to avenge this fallen soul?
That... will remain to be seen...
With 7 left alive it is 4 votes to hammer.
3 week long phases oh yeaa almost down the home stretch mark people!
Link to Day 2:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...148#post918148
Day 3 Ends March 12th at 12:00 PM EST:
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How great. Listen, I'm pretty much out of ideas because any of you are more or less equally likely to be scum to me for various reasons. If I enthused over this game then I'd surely start looking in-depth at all the posts each of you remaining people have made and coming up with theories. Knowing myself though I realize even if I did all that, I'd still have a 50/50, maybe at best 60/40 chance of being right. I doubt I can spend that effort though. Once upon a time I would have for sure.
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Re: S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)
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Originally Posted by
NoctiZ
How great. Listen, I'm pretty much out of ideas because any of you are more or less equally likely to be scum to me for various reasons. If I enthused over this game then I'd surely start looking in-depth at all the posts each of you remaining people have made and coming up with theories. Knowing myself though I realize even if I did all that, I'd still have a 50/50, maybe at best 60/40 chance of being right. I doubt I can spend that effort though. Once upon a time I would have for sure.
What?
And why the hell did Helz not talk to me. This is outrageous.
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I honestly.
Have no clue.
But I’ll tell you all this.
Mag defending me as much as he did.
Means I was Checked by him via being confirmed town.
Now that’s that out of the way.
Not sure if I trust SJ completely now.
Considering I thought he was the Cop and not Mag.
Varcron can only be scum with Martin so Varcron is my highest TR.
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It’s 5V2.
ML. 4V2
NK 3V2
We will still have another day left.
Even if we yeet wrong.
I think the best thing to do today is yeet whoever has the TMI.
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Also because I know MM so well.
They are going to deny me being confirmed and try to push me.
I would usually say that’s Scum Indicative but it’s actually MM’s meta.
I don’t even think they have an alignment tell.
Anywho, let me ask you this MM.
Out of everyone, who do YOU believe Mag checked?
Who did he defend the most?
Who did he sus the most?
Because if he had a red, he would have voted them.