S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

Yo everyone roll your die tell me what you get.

secondpassing: 5 Gyrlander
BananaCucho: 2 Ganelon


Not yet rolled:
Marshmallow Marshall
Ganelon
renegade
Bananacucho
Gyrlander
Varcron
Sen
theoneceko
Light_Yagami
SuperJack
yzb25
Frinckles

Spoiler : VOTE TABLE :

Players

Player	Number	Tally
Marshmallow Marshall	1	0
Ganelon	2	1
renegade	3	0
Bananacucho	4	0
Gyrlander	5	1
Varcron	6	0
Sen	7	0
theoneceko	8	0
secondpassing	9	0
Light_Yagami	10	0
SuperJack	11	0
yzb25	12	0
Frinckles	13	0

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I rolled 6 Varcron.

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Originally Posted by deathworlds

ITT: Boomer era host does boomer things without realizing

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QT forever. ❤

Plus they never get deleted; I can still read QTs from 2013, so people reading in the future will be able to get the full picture.

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Originally Posted by Sen

Since you seem to require crayons to understand simple concepts:

If you are town and are getting lynched, you do the most out of your remaining time to help he town win even after fucking up and mislynching you, because we aren't some babies holding grudges and you want the town to win, whether you lie or not.

Not being indifferent to getting lynched has nothing to do with that; that's just self-preservation which only the scum care about, since they're the only ones who lose by dying.

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Town want scum to be lynched. Mislynches = bad. Self preservation is NAI wtf

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Originally Posted by Sen

Since you seem to require crayons to understand simple concepts:

If you are town and are getting lynched, you do the most out of your remaining time to help he town win even after fucking up and mislynching you, because we aren't some babies holding grudges and you want the town to win, whether you lie or not.

Not being indifferent to getting lynched has nothing to do with that; that's just self-preservation which only the scum care about, since they're the only ones who lose by dying.

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You are literally ignoring what I said. -_- this is useless spam, it's not even that important lol, leave it at that. To switch onto your topic, I'd say Banana has been helping town, but of course you'll say he's scummy because he's scum since you're tunneled, so it won't work. /shrug

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Originally Posted by Sen

Ceko has been nothing but completely irrelevant. How is he scum or anything at all? That's a dead slot.

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Lurkers/dead slots go into scum for me as they're right offs in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Town want scum to be lynched. Mislynches = bad. Self preservation is NAI wtf

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And yes lol that's basic mafia theory, O mighty one

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Town want scum to be lynched. Mislynches = bad. Self preservation is NAI wtf

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And you are scum, my dear. Self-preservation is NAI. Self-preservation paired with doing jack shit and a ton of scum behaviour is scummy.

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Originally Posted by Varcron

Lurkers/dead slots go into scum for me as they're right offs in my opinion.

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He'll be replaced. And he's inactive, not a lurker. Frinckles is a lurker if you want one.

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Originally Posted by Sen

Since you seem to require crayons to understand simple concepts:

If you are town and are getting lynched, you do the most out of your remaining time to help he town win even after fucking up and mislynching you, because we aren't some babies holding grudges and you want the town to win, whether you lie or not.

Not being indifferent to getting lynched has nothing to do with that; that's just self-preservation which only the scum care about, since they're the only ones who lose by dying.

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You're viewing this with a hyper-idealistic lens. I'm getting major flashbacks to the 2016 era from you.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

This is a terrible downgrade from the current discussion. Go away with you RNGesus.

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My brain is shutting off viewing these posts, like I know they are important but there is no way I'm voting Sen today, and Banana is not nearly as scummy as either the two opportunists (three actually), the fence-sitters, or the scum read I have. Like I'd swap off Ganelon to move the lynch from Banana to Frinckles, renegade, or Light_Yagami.

Feel free to discuss away. You might be having a "discussion" but there are quite a few people not participating in your discussion, and I'm more interested in them.

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Originally Posted by yzb25

You're viewing this with a hyper-idealistic lens. I'm getting major flashbacks to the 2016 era from you.

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Perhaps. I'm well aware that there's a good chance that I'm just seeing what I want to see, but I've done ISO on everyone and can't find a justification to go for someone else today, and a no lynch is never an option. Also, host meta; my other possible scum targets are way less likely to have a scum power role.

lmao it landed on 2

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

My brain is shutting off viewing these posts, like I know they are important but there is no way I'm voting Sen today, and Banana is not nearly as scummy as either the two opportunists (three actually), the fence-sitters, or the scum read I have. Like I'd swap off Ganelon to move the lynch from Banana to Frinckles, renegade, or Light_Yagami.

Feel free to discuss away. You might be having a "discussion" but there are quite a few people not participating in your discussion, and I'm more interested in them.

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I'm interested on what you think about me, secondpassing.

If you think anything at all.

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Originally Posted by Sen

And you are scum, my dear. Self-preservation is NAI. Self-preservation paired with doing jack shit and a ton of scum behaviour is scummy.

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This is going in circles (again, "you're scummy because you're scum"), and I should go anyway, so it's a good time to do so. Honestly, I think Sen is just a misguided tunneled townie atm, so

-vote Light_Yagami

Going back there. We should probably let Frinckles use his action and prove himself tonight. And if he happens to be claiming lunatic tomorrow because he can't prove himself, well he should be lynched :)

@Sen I get that you're pushing this really hard because you don't want to have any regrets, but your zealousness is turning people off and making the people who were kinda against you before super-against you. Your style of persuasion only works when you're preaching to the choir and the people who you're talking to are already sympathic to what you're saying. You're not convincing jackshit like this. You should go take a break and reflect on what you want to do from here.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

This is going in circles (again, "you're scummy because you're scum"), and I should go anyway, so it's a good time to do so. Honestly, I think Sen is just a misguided tunneled townie atm, so

-vote Light_Yagami

Going back there. We should probably let Frinckles use his action and prove himself tonight. And if he happens to be claiming lunatic tomorrow because he can't prove himself, well he should be lynched :)

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I almost asked "why Yagami", realised I was scum reading him. Nice.

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

My brain is shutting off viewing these posts, like I know they are important but there is no way I'm voting Sen today, and Banana is not nearly as scummy as either the two opportunists (three actually), the fence-sitters, or the scum read I have. Like I'd swap off Ganelon to move the lynch from Banana to Frinckles, renegade, or Light_Yagami.

Feel free to discuss away. You might be having a "discussion" but there are quite a few people not participating in your discussion, and I'm more interested in them.

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Fair, vote Light :P

I am reading that Sen is towny. I think most of his efforts have been in town's favor this whole day so far. For example, pushing against the no lynchers with some basic math. The first of many.

He makes an good case against Banana. BC's behavior of warming up and "taking under the wing" along with the half joke "banana" alliance is suspect.

Marshmallow is giving way too much credit for the mass claim effort that was pushed by banana among others. What did we get out of it? Tons of back and forth, a frinkle claim of counselor, useless onegecko claim, banana claim, and a varcron claim, none of which have gone anywhere.

In addition, the massive volume of posts by banana is suspect to me as well. Insane amount of filler to drown everything else out?

-vote bananacucho

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Fair, vote Light :P

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I feel like you're not giving due consideration to the fact that the nature of Frinckles' role is such that he can drag out a proper confirmation for days while making you feel like his confirmation is right around the corner. His role doesn't even inform targets that their cell was visited, so we can't even be sure of his movements.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

This page sure is made of great quality shiposts lmao.

Also, I can't find the post anymore but I think @Frinckles said at some point that Ganelon was "always a 50/50 roll, always a good lynch" or something like that... what the actual fuck are you saying lol? I very strongly hate this post, because it's 1: not true objectively, 2: you did not have much trouble with him in the past iirc, and 3: if you truly think that way, you should be advocating for a policy lynch on Light_Yagami as of now. Down in the scum pool you go.
Note that I still have my guts telling me that there's something fishy with Ganelon. It's just that Frinckles' argument to push him is horrible.

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I don't trust you with meta reads after last game UWU

For context:
MM was Mafia and claimed Banana was town due to his "Banana Alliance." It turns out Banana was also Mafia who pocketed the entire town. uMu

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Originally Posted by yzb25

@Sen I get that you're pushing this really hard because you don't want to have any regrets, but your zealousness is turning people off and making the people who were kinda against you before super-against you. Your style of persuasion only works when you're preaching to the choir and the people who you're talking to are already sympathic to what you're saying. You're not convincing jackshit like this. You should go take a break and reflect on what you want to do from here.

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I'm used to it. I'm that drunk detective with weird hair that noone likes in the movies, yet solves the crime by the end. People only follow my trains once they get to know me as a player, or once the scum I've been calling out since D1 finally flips (Mazzy all over again; I still have nightmares about that, hah).

I should hire someone with a training in marketing and PR. We'd be unstoppable.

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Originally Posted by renegade

I am reading that Sen is towny. I think most of his efforts have been in town's favor this whole day so far. For example, pushing against the no lynchers with some basic math. The first of many.

He makes an good case against Banana. BC's behavior of warming up and "taking under the wing" along with the half joke "banana" alliance is suspect.

Marshmallow is giving way too much credit for the mass claim effort that was pushed by banana among others. What did we get out of it? Tons of back and forth, a frinkle claim of counselor, useless onegecko claim, banana claim, and a varcron claim, none of which have gone anywhere.

In addition, the massive volume of posts by banana is suspect to me as well. Insane amount of filler to drown everything else out?

-vote bananacucho

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My minions are all turning against me

See if I ever defend you lot ever again

These pockets are closing for good

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

See if I ever defend you lot ever again

These pockets are closing for good

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bruh.
I don't have enough space in my signature for so many posts

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I'm interested on what you think about me, secondpassing.

If you think anything at all.

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You were town in my eyes for like the first 5 hours. I then spent the next 24 staring at kyubey.
Then I remembered that kyubey is bad. Cute but bad. After which you came back and self-reported taking a back seat and for a no-lynch.
Which I was like, "???" but it was forthcoming nonetheless.

So I don't really have a problem yeeting you off, but it's also
not
like
I
have
a
real
motivation
to
do
so.

Hence the die rolling, if it turns out you have a majority, and we can shift votes that way. I'm cool with that.

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Originally Posted by renegade

I am reading that Sen is towny. I think most of his efforts have been in town's favor this whole day so far. For example, pushing against the no lynchers with some basic math. The first of many.

He makes an good case against Banana. BC's behavior of warming up and "taking under the wing" along with the half joke "banana" alliance is suspect.

Marshmallow is giving way too much credit for the mass claim effort that was pushed by banana among others. What did we get out of it? Tons of back and forth, a frinkle claim of counselor, useless onegecko claim, banana claim, and a varcron claim, none of which have gone anywhere.

In addition, the massive volume of posts by banana is suspect to me as well. Insane amount of filler to drown everything else out?

-vote bananacucho

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The goofy guy makes sense, my opinion still sort of stands with the wolfing that he did for roles being scummy as hell

I don't want a hammer to early, but I guess I can leave this here for now

-vote BananaCucho

The little guys want to slay the defender of the little guys

How ironic.

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

The little guys want to slay the defender of the little guys

How ironic.

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I mean, this kind of talking isn't doing much to change my view here. Sorry *shrug*

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Fair, vote Light :P

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I'd rather renegade, I mean, he already has the inactive vote on him so we can use that to get the lynch off, but sure

-vote Light_Yagami

My, my. This is interesting.

if MM switches to Frinckles, this would be the second game where MM, me and BC voted together on a train.

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Originally Posted by renegade

I mean, this kind of talking isn't doing much to change my view here. Sorry *shrug*

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Fair enough. Good luck out there on your own Renae </3

I like the Light train

I can't believe Frinckles literally managed to lurk his way out of being the top vote. Maybe his play is better than I'm giving him credit for LOL

I'm allowed to lurk as an self-outed TPR

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

I'd rather renegade, I mean, he already has the inactive vote on him so we can use that to get the lynch off, but sure

-vote Light_Yagami

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Wait actually, I forgot that Light already claimed a role. Let's just do renegade. It's better. He hasn't claimed yet, and he's worse than Light.
*also still don't understand how Varcron town reads both me and renegade

-vote renegade

aka check yaself before ya wreck yaself.

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Originally Posted by yzb25

I can't believe Frinckles literally managed to lurk his way out of being the top vote. Maybe his play is better than I'm giving him credit for LOL

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Yep and votes are going onto the little guys like Kira

Or onto the easy vote, like myself

At least people are finally starting to pick sides

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

Wait actually, I forgot that Light already claimed a role. Let's just do renegade. It's better. He hasn't claimed yet, and he's worse than Light.
*also still don't understand how Varcron town reads both me and renegade

-vote renegade

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We all knew you would be back.

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

Wait actually, I forgot that Light already claimed a role. Let's just do renegade. It's better. He hasn't claimed yet, and he's worse than Light.
*also still don't understand how Varcron town reads both me and renegade

-vote renegade

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I think both of you are being too blind to see eachother as town. You both act towny in my eyes.

here's a teambuilding exercise you can answer,

Who are your two top townreads and why? Ignore everyone else. Just your top two.

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

Wait actually, I forgot that Light already claimed a role. Let's just do renegade. It's better. He hasn't claimed yet, and he's worse than Light.
*also still don't understand how Varcron town reads both me and renegade

-vote renegade

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If Kira hardclaimed I didnt see it

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

I'm allowed to lurk as an self-outed TPR

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what when how where

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

here's a teambuilding exercise you can answer,

Who are your two top townreads and why? Ignore everyone else. Just your top two.

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How about you answer that yourself?

because no matter how hard you try, our D1 reads will probably suck. Let's try townreading.

Yeah Kira didn't claim, second passing is just desperately grasping at straws to lynch me, once again! Now that is what we call GOOFY

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

How about you answer that yourself?

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I like Sen and Somethingpassing quite a bit. They're actually analyzing without the need of gotchas. I don't think that method is always correct, but it often aligns with how good or bad they do D2.

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

here's a teambuilding exercise you can answer,

Who are your two top townreads and why? Ignore everyone else. Just your top two.

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"tell me who your top towns are. I need data for my conversion tonight."

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Originally Posted by renegade

Yeah Kira didn't claim, second passing is just desperately grasping at straws to lynch me, once again! Now that is what we call GOOFY

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this post is so missing the point it can only come from town. not sure what you're seeing scummy in this guy

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Originally Posted by renegade

Yeah Kira didn't claim, second passing is just desperately grasping at straws to lynch me, once again! Now that is what we call GOOFY

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On second thought, I like the votes on Renae. Vote away boys