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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
@SuperJack
how many tokens did you receive last night?
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
@
SuperJack
how many tokens did you receive last night?
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
Hmmm Hmmm.. Something Isnt Adding Up Here.. Loldebite Claims To Give SJ A Token.. SJ Claims To Not Get A Token.. Interesting...
Please See Here For What SuperJack Said Previously After What Loldebite Said.. Thanks..
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
Please See Here For What SuperJack Said Previously After What Loldebite Said.. Thanks..
SuperJack could have just missed the feedback, no one is going to hardclaim a lie today
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
SuperJack could have just missed the feedback, no one is going to hardclaim a lie today
Thats Fair.. I Was Thinking That As Well.. So Why I Was Giving Them The Benefit Of The Doubt Asking For A Reads List Anything That Would Help Him.. Also He Could A Come Back Later With Yeah Missed The Host Feed Back Just Got It.. But He Didnt.. He Simply Said How Dare You Give Me A Token In Reference To Loldebite..
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
@Gikkle
@Loldebite
@Marshmallow Marshall
@Light_Yagami
@WrathCyber
@MartinGG99
@SuperJack
@PQRnHack
@Stealthbomber16
It is important to not give any more tokens to any of (Loldebite, SuperJack, WrathCyber)
If someone dies then these three would be cleared of having done the kill because even as a wolf with double tokens, they won't have enough tokens to perform a kill and they would be instantly cleared.
It is important for town to not use the kill ability. It's better to just ascend.
I think it is worth it for town to coordinate their tokens so that we get two of our double slots to 6 tokens tonight so that they may both ascend tomorrow night.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
I think it is worth it for town to coordinate their tokens so that we get two of our double slots to 6 tokens tonight so that they may both ascend tomorrow night.
SB and I will keep giving your slot our token.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
@
SuperJack
how many tokens did you receive last night?
1.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
No one is cool enough to vote i see.
How boring.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
There are currently two votes on Ozy right here.
From a wolf perspective, you cannot let your last teammate go over, so given the knowledge that Ozy flipped wolf, this seems like a very weird leading question to be asking. This has been a relatively low activity game, why didn't he just read EoD if he wanted to know? Well, because he didn't just want to know, he wanted to start a conversation about it.
Discredit players making scum reads on the basis that they are low activity slots. Exactly what a wolf needs to do when both of the remaining wolves are low activity slots.
The context of a wolf teammate sitting at two votes this reads very differently - attempting to cast suspicion elsewhere without committing to a vote. Could it be town that just has genuine doubts? Sure, but it's just >rand wolf play here.
More of the shade, needling oliver, trying to cast suspicion off of Ozy. It's especially a bad look because if SuperJack read end of day he should have been able to recognize the dynamics of the EoD play and how they benefitted town. His omission of this could be just an oblivious town. But again, it's >rand wolf, and there are a lot of such >rand wolf posts that are piling up here.
SuperJack's efforts basically died here as well, as Ozy sitting at 3 votes now with a near guarantee that my Oliver's vote was going to land on Ozy as well - he only had 3 more posts in the thread at all before EoD
And now his posts today are just about as low effort as they come, which is about what you'd expect from a wolf in this position.
This slot's a wolf
I tend to see all of this as misguided townie actions. Like, saying he truly believed he could get Oliver lynched or even that he could hope to deflect votes from Ozy onto Oliver is quite frankly ridiculous: your slot was obviously universally townread. Had he wanted to deflect onto someone, he should either have picked Martinbomber, who had been suspected on D1, or Wrath for his really low effort posting. Instead of doing that, he didn't really address Martin and STRONGLY TOWNREAD Wrath for a reason that isn't too strong, but that also isn't insane.
You may well laugh post-game if SJ ends up really being scum, but I'm going to stick to my relative townread on him unless he's next in the PoE, which he currently isn't.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
No one is cool enough to vote i see.
How boring.
What do you mean? Also, if Loldebite is town, who is scum according to you?
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Loldebite
You're still voting for me, too, tho...
Correct. SJ pulled a troll move, that doesn't make him scum :)
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
No one hammer I just figured out how town can mech lock this game, wolf should actually just concede now
-vote unvote
to be extra safe
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
No one hammer I just figured out how town can mech lock this game, wolf should actually just concede now
-vote unvote
to be extra safe
Booorrrinng.
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How did you make this even mooorreee boring
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God I'm dying here please just yeet and then yeet some more
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
No one hammer I just figured out how town can mech lock this game, wolf should actually just concede now
-vote unvote
to be extra safe
Just putting the 10th layer of condom on.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
Everyone put your vote down.
Whoever votes scum wins the Uber game.
If you vote wrong today you be loser
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Everyone put your vote down.
Whoever votes scum wins the Uber game.
If you vote wrong today you be loser
Are you scum lolcatting or what xD
I'm gonna wait on Lag's miracle solution here, at the very least to see what it is.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Are you scum lolcatting or what xD
I'm gonna wait on Lag's miracle solution here, at the very least to see what it is.
No just god damn bored.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
No one hammer I just figured out how town can mech lock this game, wolf should actually just concede now
-vote unvote
to be extra safe
https://c.tenor.com/V60P2QQuP4sAAAAM...-attention.gif
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
I will go against all mechanical game solve.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
I will go against all mechanical game solve.
Thats Pretty Scummy..
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
Thats Pretty Scummy..
Then get others to vote me.
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Lol does no one think they are strong enough to rally enough against me, or are people too proud to admit they realise I'm town
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Then get others to vote me.
I Have Been Since Day 1...
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
I Think Lag Mizery & SuperJack Are Scum.. Just By Looking At Name Placement In Hosts Starting Post..
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
Lag (1 [L-5]):
Light_Yagami
Light_Yagami (1 [L-5]):
Gikkle
Gikkle (2 [L-4]):
MartinGG99, Marshmallow Marshall
MartinGG99 (3 [L-3]):
SuperJack, Lag, Mizery
I think this is worth noting for future reference
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
Well Now Aint That Just Interesting As All Hell..
See What I Mean?
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
I Have Been Since Day 1...
See What I Mean?
No one believe you though :O
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
I'll give my token to scum.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
No one believe you though :O
Happens I Guess..
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
@SuperJack
who is scum and why? If you are town and find mechanical solutions boring (which I can understand tbh), you absolutely should be explaining your world here.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
New game.
Say nice things to Stealth
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
New game.
Say nice things to Stealth
I Think SJ Just Gave Up
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
@
SuperJack
who is scum and why? If you are town and find mechanical solutions boring (which I can understand tbh), you absolutely should be explaining your world here.
Lol for giving me token. Like who gives me token, and they seemed to want to get in my goodside the day beforem
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
Stealth deserves a healthy old age for being so nice.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
Stealth deserves two cakes for Christmas after not murdering a spider once.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Lol for giving me token. Like who gives me token, and they seemed to want to get in my goodside the day beforem
Quotes? And what if he's town?
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Stealth deserves a healthy old age for being so nice.
Quotes? :weed:
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
PQ Asked Me To Quote This... He Wanted Just The Last Paragraph So I Did
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Originally Posted by
PQRnHack
In any event, SB16's thoughts closely reflect my own: Mizery+Varcron+(SuperJack or Loldebite) in my view. Obviously null read on Loldebite at this point, so has to remain a potential suspect. Everyone else outside these 4 (of which 3 remain alive), LY and I view everyone as towny so far. My money is on Varcron and SJ as remaining corrupted souls.
Also Like I Said Seems Like Super Jack Gave Up... And Is Indeed The Last Scum.. He Is Basically Begging To Be Lynched Today...
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
Alright, yep, this plan to automatically win checks out. It's very complicated though and has a lot of branching paths
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
The plan hinges on the fact that if the wolf is denied any tokens at all, then two confirmed town beat them. If the wolf can get enough tokens to kill someone, then 3 confirmed town win, if the wolf can get enough tokens to kill AND ascend, then 4 confirmed town win - but we make sure we don't allow time for that thanks to the one item per night restriction.
During days 3 and 4 we chop MM and Gikkle. This is to reduce the pool of players with enough tokens to use the kill action. Because all of Wrath + SJ + Loldebite can never get enough tokens to use a kill action, we know that if a kill ever happens, then all three of them are cleared - which is likely enough to just win the game immediately. Chop through the slots that could have possibly done the kill - prioritize chopping ascended slots. And wolves get boxed. Meaning the wolves cannot kill anyone without clearing too many players.
Send enough tokens to two of OliLag/MartinBomber/LightHack tonight so that two of the pairs can ascend come night 4.
The most failed ascensions that can happen due to glue is 1. Because you can only buy glue once. If there are two failed ascensions then one of those slots has to be a wolf lying about being glued. Ascended souls have their shops reset though, which is why if there is a failed ascension at first, you immediately chop one of the freshly ascended souls to confirm they are town. If there is no failed ascensions then come day 5 there will be 4 ascended slots, one dual slot with 6 tokens ready to ascend and three other slots that have received only 0 or 1 token.
Of course if at any point in time any one dies at night, then all of those 0/1 token slots are cleared.
So on day 5, you chop one of the ascended slots in order to create 1 confirmed town. Then at night everyone dumps their tokens on that slot to starve wolves of tokens, the third dual slot ascends, and you can chop half of it for two confirmed slots. Then finally chop the third ascended slot for three confirmed slots. If the wolves are in the starved slots, they will not have received enough tokens to ascend or kill, so we can just chop through them to win. If the wolves are in the ascended slots - well, then we immediately find them as we chop through the ascended slots.
Questions?
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The obvious downside to this plan is that SuperJack has stated he plans to be actively anti-town, and is probably just a wolf lolcatting.
And WrathCyber is an actual potato
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
The plan hinges on the fact that if the wolf is denied any tokens at all, then two confirmed town beat them. If the wolf can get enough tokens to kill someone, then 3 confirmed town win, if the wolf can get enough tokens to kill AND ascend, then 4 confirmed town win - but we make sure we don't allow time for that thanks to the one item per night restriction.
During days 3 and 4 we chop MM and Gikkle. This is to reduce the pool of players with enough tokens to use the kill action. Because all of Wrath + SJ + Loldebite can never get enough tokens to use a kill action, we know that if a kill ever happens, then all three of them are cleared - which is likely enough to just win the game immediately. Chop through the slots that could have possibly done the kill - prioritize chopping ascended slots. And wolves get boxed. Meaning the wolves cannot kill anyone without clearing too many players.
Send enough tokens to two of OliLag/MartinBomber/LightHack tonight so that two of the pairs can ascend come night 4.
The most failed ascensions that can happen due to glue is 1. Because you can only buy glue once. If there are two failed ascensions then one of those slots has to be a wolf lying about being glued. Ascended souls have their shops reset though, which is why if there is a failed ascension at first, you immediately chop one of the freshly ascended souls to confirm they are town. If there is no failed ascensions then come day 5 there will be 4 ascended slots, one dual slot with 6 tokens ready to ascend and three other slots that have received only 0 or 1 token.
Of course if at any point in time any one dies at night, then all of those 0/1 token slots are cleared.
So on day 5, you chop one of the ascended slots in order to create 1 confirmed town. Then at night everyone dumps their tokens on that slot to starve wolves of tokens, the third dual slot ascends, and you can chop half of it for two confirmed slots. Then finally chop the third ascended slot for three confirmed slots. If the wolves are in the starved slots, they will not have received enough tokens to ascend or kill, so we can just chop through them to win. If the wolves are in the ascended slots - well, then we immediately find them as we chop through the ascended slots.
Questions?
Once Town Ascends They Can No Longer Receive Tokens
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Light_Yagami
Once Town Ascends They Can No Longer Receive Tokens
They cannot receive tokens, but you can still send them tokens as a way to just throw them away
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Ascended Soul : You have split up from your soulmate, therefore you both became Ascended Souls.
Your number of token will be set to 0.
You cannot earn tokens anymore, nor give them.
You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore.
Ascended Corrupted Soul : You have split up from your soulmate, therefore you both became Ascended Souls.
You still can earn tokens and would receive double the amount you are supposed to get.
You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore (out of the night chat).
You have a night chat with all the members of the Corrupted side.
Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Lag
They cannot receive tokens, but you can still send them tokens as a way to just throw them away
True
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
This is a boring solution that also happens to result in not getting happily ever after. V E T O
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
It also results in the death of my poor being! How dare you, Lag.
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
It also results in the death of my poor being! How dare you, Lag.
Vote Super Jack Today For Happy Ever After
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
Also Lags Plan Takes Us To Thanksgiving..
I Aint Got Time For That...
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
This is a boring solution that also happens to result in not getting happily ever after. V E T O
PQ Also Vetos This Plan.. PQ Says Why Make A Boring Game Even More Boring And Dragged Out...
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Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls
Just vote cyber for not playing?