S-FM 243: Your Everyday Average Game

@blinkskater you know any of the mafia members can act as gf and go for the kill? thats what mm did n1

so don't post which of them you will rb. @Gyrlander please jail MM

i was jailed last night so i didn't investigate anyone, and i forgot to ask host question during the day. derp.

i'll probably follow/hammer the vote on secondpassing if no one else can provide a better person to lynch today, because i do agree, someone in the mafia must be a rule-breaker. which one, i dunno. mm could possibly be cuck??

also, for y'all thinking blink is cuck...he was trained by mesk at FM. don't be surprised he's fighting back w insults hah

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Someone asked Host if there were a Kidnapper and a Jailor at the same time and he said "Yes". Considering no one had been jailed apart from MM's targets it was obvious the Jailor had to be someone who had been AFK... hellbot in this case.

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ok, must have missed that post/forgot about it.

At first I thought blink had to be Rule Breaker and considered his change of attitude (From completely irrational suck my dick MM I will die even if it means GTing to OMG I ACTUALLY CAN COMMUNICATE AND BE USEFUL) suspicious but maybe he is really that sensitive in terms of getting insulted.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Page 7. As far as I have read it seems quite clear that Scvmurderer wasn't playing in a logical way. Blinkskater seems to be super defensive too... I don't know how he plays in other games but here he seems to be kind of irrational and I don't like that. Will continue reading.

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Scv is often irrational, scum or not lol...

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Originally Posted by naz

omg hybrid look at this perfect typing i'm so proud of my turkish babies this game lmao

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I'm on a computer :) Though not my pc sadly :(

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Okey, this game really favours Rule Followers. The fact that we have Mafia Night Kill as a weapon that basically avoids giving anyone a win (Cuck loses, Com Hunter loses whether he needs to lynch or save his target and GT can't win if we basically kill everyone and are careful on who we let remain alive). Only Skypers have a chance of winning and they would need to play REALLY WELL. SO DO NOT FEAR.

However, if you want to make this game not a 1X days long and interesting we could try some interesting things. If that's not the case we simply let Mafia kill people slowly... and lynch them every now and then. Only problem we may have is one of them being a GT or a Com Hunter lynch objective but 1st we can let 2 Rule Breakers win and 2nd Com Hunters would probably choose remain their targets alive sooOOO EASY PEASYYY.

Heck, even Modkill which is supposed to be a superior form of killing has more disadvantages than Mafia NK lmao.

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yeh, though don't rush our kills/lynchs/executions ok? lol. Modkilling has more advantages tbh but 2 false kills=rip so yeah....

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Originally Posted by Soviet_Love

How does this let skypers prepare their win.... what? That would leave the same amount of people... their goal is to reduce the number of rule-followers... this is what I am talking about when I say you're writing nonsense posts.

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They can coordinate and take control of day chat, if we let them too much time. Then, lynches will be led by them, which causes what you don't what to happen.

A good question to ask distortedre Is do you trust blink skater to lead the followers and act as mayor?

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Originally Posted by Soviet_Love

The only way waiting would be bad is if a rule-breaker has a killing the role and can cull our numbers otherwise. The killing roles are Secondpassing (see Spruants), Kidnapper Marshmallow Madness (who hasn't executed yet, which gives me hope he is rule-follower), and the jailor Gyrlander (who has been inactive until now).

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And Hybrid. You are saying I say nonsense but you don't even read the thread...!?

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Originally Posted by naz

@blinkskater you know any of the mafia members can act as gf and go for the kill? thats what mm did n1

so don't post which of them you will rb. @Gyrlander please jail MM

i was jailed last night so i didn't investigate anyone, and i forgot to ask host question during the day. derp.

i'll probably follow/hammer the vote on secondpassing if no one else can provide a better person to lynch today, because i do agree, someone in the mafia must be a rule-breaker. which one, i dunno. mm could possibly be cuck??

also, for y'all thinking blink is cuck...he was trained by mesk at FM. don't be surprised he's fighting back w insults hah

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MM did the "-target" command in the mod mafia basicly. And MM is not a rule breaker. I m 90% sure of it...

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Originally Posted by blinkskater

A good question to ask distortedre Is do you trust blink skater to lead the followers and act as mayor?

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ooo that is a good question. bc if blink is not scum, he has the best intuition-reads of any mafia player i know.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

And Hybrid. You are saying I say nonsense but you don't even read the thread...!?

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Uhhh, I think you should need to take a shower or have a good nights sleep before going to job instead of playing fm.

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

I think he’s trying to keep Soviet or Suntax from dying.

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Um. This was posted long ago, mind to tell me who was the suspected com hunter? XD sorry... I feel retarded right now

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

Uhhh, I think you should need to take a shower or have a good nights sleep before going to job instead of playing fm.

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I don't mean that you're retarded, I mean you're killing role ^^

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

I'm on a computer :) Though not my pc sadly :(


yeh, though don't rush our kills/lynchs/executions ok? lol. Modkilling has more advantages tbh but 2 false kills=rip so yeah....

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I just said Modkilling has more DISADVANTAGES than Mafia Night Kill so that's pretty shit.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

I don't mean that you're retarded, I mean you're killing role ^^

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Oh sorry lol.

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Originally Posted by naz

@blinkskater you know any of the mafia members can act as gf and go for the kill? thats what mm did n1

so don't post which of them you will rb. @Gyrlander please jail MM

i was jailed last night so i didn't investigate anyone, and i forgot to ask host question during the day. derp.

i'll probably follow/hammer the vote on secondpassing if no one else can provide a better person to lynch today, because i do agree, someone in the mafia must be a rule-breaker. which one, i dunno. mm could possibly be cuck??

also, for y'all thinking blink is cuck...he was trained by mesk at FM. don't be surprised he's fighting back w insults hah

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Why should I jail MM?

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Why should I jail MM?

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mm is kidnapper, and the others dont trust him somehow...

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

That s a terrible logic tbh, voting on ppl would make it easier to see who are the skypers unless you actually trying to get ppl die in night so that ppl won't suspect you.



Dang, I thought he was a gamethrower like I hadn't been that sure of anything in my life lol.


Yeah, I kinda think of there might be multiple com hunters while i was thinking of the FM game irl. I gotta read the posts you ve guys made though. Also, a person thinks alike me! Spruance does sucked though my reasoning was different. I think he is just dumb and I shouldn't be reading him with his talks anymore lol.



MM-SecondPassing-Soviet_Love are the mafias then? ok.
I kinda didn't get why you ve voted soviet love though.



CAN WE JUST STOP THE HOST CONFIRMATION OF LYNCHES? HE CAN ALWAYS MODKILL YOU KNOW? Gee- If he wanted so a player would have been already dead and it would have been great as well since I know that distorted is a lucky cuck lul.



You were afk D1, didn't get replaced and speaking like you are being supported by someone else from the game since you are new it can be easily noticeable. But sometimes people are just smart and getting used to the game fast lol. So if you are not to be a skyper well you are a above avarage person on mafia game lol.It's not totaly baseless but rather not stating the exact reasoning. And since SB16 is nearly confirmed rule follower (his early claim, knowing and immidietly revealing my role and not trusting/sheeping to other lynches) just nearly confirms him. I'd rather trust him than you unless you got a real read on someone.



You are getting higher on the cuck-ladder-read of me... Can you not think of a strategy that would a skyper use...


On what basis he is a rule follower? Explain @blinkskater or else you are just blindly protecting him.



lol IKR. His posts was shit that i read 'em as slips (the first posts he made, the others were just shit talks of him i guess?)



At the worst rate, we'd lynch blinkskater or suntax today. If suntax doesnt contributes with us today i'll read him as com-hunter that is trying to not tobe lynched by not posting since there are newbies in this game. And you know blink just seems to be cuck...



Stop bad mouthing please x.x or stop saying stuffs that you can't back up. There are litreally no reasons but the voting patterns that both mm and sb16 has. And the agreement between sb16 and mm but that s usual stuff that can be happening in ever fm game.

1-They are talking a lot with lots of sense. You just don't want to process the informations they are giving to you.
2-One of the mafia kills were actually gamethrower and kinda prevented one of the gamethrowers to block our way. We can always let mafia and me lose. to get the win if necessary.
3-IT WASN'T A RANDOM GOSH.
4-They are not? They are just on the same spot with their own logics.
5-Lol k like we are gonna believe into a little thing like that. Trying to play the pitty game is kinda embrassing y'know?


No. Instead I'll be voting you since I think and I ve actually have no doubt that you are cuck. If you are a gamethrower well played though.



Instead if we lynch you i will be able to clear up my mind lol. You only have 10% of rule follower gauge on my mind. And Soviet love has only 45% ish .


OK SO I HIGHLY THINK THAT BLINK IS A CUCK AND SHOULDN'T BE MOD KILLED. IF HE S A RULE FOLLOWER I WILL HAVE TO RETHINK ABOUT EVERY LOGIC I THINK OF

-vote blinkskater

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Ok, so I'm not just crazy... Everyone but SB16 is just screaming bullshit atm. SOVIET LOVE AND SPRUANCE AND BLINK ARE SUPER HIGH TOWN READS LOOK AT THEIR SUPER HELPFUL POSTS!!! nah srsly? lol.

Now blink and soviet, go go go, say it: me, stealth and hybrid are skypers, lynch us and it's gg. Right? That's what you were gonna say, right?

Also just to keep everything on check, what s are peops claims?
Hybrid-Arson
Secondpassing-Godfather
Zeratul-Kidnapper
Soviet Love-Consort
Efe/Naz/Blink-Citizen
Gyrlander-Jailor
SB16-Investigator

Suntax-Citizen? According to what SB16 Says

Those are the claims right?

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

Also just to keep everything on check, what s are peops claims?
Hybrid-Arson
Secondpassing-Godfather
Zeratul-Kidnapper
Soviet Love-Consort
Efe/Naz-Citizen
Blink-Escort
Gyrlander-Jailor
SB16-Investigator

Suntax-Citizen? According to what SB16 Says

Those are the claims right?

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Fixed

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

mm is kidnapper, and the others dont trust him somehow...

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Because I feel like some people STILL DIDN'T GET that 2nd roles are not important for the win...

Also, I was somehow leading kills in night chat. And Soviet_Love is trying to make me look bad because of that, I think. Honestly, if I had to give a skyper team, it'd be soviet_love and naz. After quickly re-reading things, they are staying away from eachother but have very very similar arguments, as if they were planned. But Naz still has higher follower chances than soviet imo.

Naz just claimed Investigator you dummy.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Why should I jail MM?

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The post this post quotes is proving my point somehow about the skyping team theory. I feel like the plan to get me jailed "and probably execute" was made up when the fact there was a Jailor was exposed.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Because I feel like some people STILL DIDN'T GET that 2nd roles are not important for the win...

Also, I was somehow leading kills in night chat. And Soviet_Love is trying to make me look bad because of that, I think. Honestly, if I had to give a skyper team, it'd be soviet_love and naz. After quickly re-reading things, they are staying away from eachother but have very very similar arguments, as if they were planned. But Naz still has higher follower chances than soviet imo.

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Naz has done little in general IMO.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Naz just claimed Investigator you dummy.

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nah she hadclaimed sheriff i just remembered

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Naz just claimed Investigator you dummy.

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Sooooo? He didn't "just", he did many irl days ago lol. And why are you saying this?

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

nah she hadclaimed sheriff i just remembered

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No, INVESTIGATOR. Re-read lol...

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

Tbh I could push ppl as well if i wanted to but sb16 does it the best and gets the info we need lol.

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Because he's invest, yeah. Also, yes you could, but you're not active enough ^^

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Sooooo? He didn't "just", he did many irl days ago lol. And why are you saying this?

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To correct Hybrid's list of roles... Also, regarding your skyping theory I think that if Soviet & naz were skypers the former would have told him that he had been jailed by me, as he understood. However, naz kept asking how the fuck people knew I was Jailor (Even though I jailed him last night lmao)

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

and 1 more thing, i wish i didnt have to deal with gyrlander's avatars everytime i m on FM Q.Q

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Look at yours already ;) btw nice signature...

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

Tbh i doused sb16 tonight, just incase :)

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y tho

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Look at yours already ;) btw nice signature...

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mine is fine :( btw im re reading sb16 s posts if i had missed anything then will re read on blinks then i ll decide if blink s cuck or not. Dont think blink s gt or skyper or com hunter tbh

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

So blink, answer this. How many times have you been drunk while playing this game? As in percentages.

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Oh yeah, half out of topic... Why do people drink while playing FM!?!?!? Scv admitted being drunk many many times. Like, wtf? Don't drink when: you gotta get up early; you have a life; you must use your brain; you play any Mafia form. Aka don't drink unless very special circumstances XD

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

y tho

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Same question btw.

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

y tho

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As much as I trust you, I actually dont trust you as well. Just because i trust you so much I m scared of throwing the game off. So I ve doused you and efe just incase if i screw up and lose to you guys.

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Originally Posted by Soviet_Love

Fact 1: MM SB16 Secondpassing used logic to decide to kill Spruance.
Fact 2: Spruance is a ruler-follower.
Fact 3: MM SB16 Secondpassing are continuing to use logic to determine who the town should lynch/kill.

Conclusion: We should stop listening to their logic because clearly they don't know what they're talking about.

I am still hopeful MM is rule-follower because his posts especially the early ones seemed intent on rallying people together to think through the setup. I don't think a rule-breaker would want to encourage that.

I am very suspectful of Seconpassing and SB16. I think we need to change the bad dynamic this town has had thus far, and that means one of these three has to go. Secondpassing is my preferred, because I can roleblock MM. And I just think we should start with someone in the maf since we eventually need a town win, odds are good that 1 maf is a rule-breaker, and I know I'm a rule-follower (even if I can't convince others).

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Why are you lumping/blaming me for the mafia night kill? YOU are a member of the mafia and YOU are better equipped to stop them than I am. It would help if you went into the night chat and actually communicated with them like a TEAM.

Your logic is flawed. Ergo, we listen to other people’s logic. Which is why your wagon on secondpassing consists of you, someone who needs to be banned, and a com hunter.

Btw i will be dousing MM this night, I m dousing the ppl i m trusting to first. Except for efe obviously lol it was reactionary kind of...

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Originally Posted by Soviet_Love

Fact 1: MM SB16 Secondpassing used logic to decide to kill Spruance.
Fact 2: Spruance is a ruler-follower.
Fact 3: MM SB16 Secondpassing are continuing to use logic to determine who the town should lynch/kill.

Conclusion: We should stop listening to their logic because clearly they don't know what they're talking about.

I am still hopeful MM is rule-follower because his posts especially the early ones seemed intent on rallying people together to think through the setup. I don't think a rule-breaker would want to encourage that.

I am very suspectful of Seconpassing and SB16. I think we need to change the bad dynamic this town has had thus far, and that means one of these three has to go. Secondpassing is my preferred, because I can roleblock MM. And I just think we should start with someone in the maf since we eventually need a town win, odds are good that 1 maf is a rule-breaker, and I know I'm a rule-follower (even if I can't convince others).

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Aaaactually. @SuperJack , may I (Kidnapper) jail and execute my fellow mafias?

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Why are you lumping/blaming me for the mafia night kill? YOU are a member of the mafia and YOU are better equipped to stop them than I am. It would help if you went into the night chat and actually communicated with them like a TEAM.

Your logic is flawed. Ergo, we listen to other people’s logic. Which is why your wagon on secondpassing consists of you, someone who needs to be banned, and a com hunter.

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Yea. I'm banking on you to stop mafia NKs and if someone dies it means that we either have a gamethrowing vig or a cuck neutral on our hands.

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Bupp. So what did MM do? I kinda missed the part of it even if i had mentioned it on my wall post i kinda forgot it.

MM a recap of what happened in night chat please. As far as i ve seen, you and second passing argued on who to kill and went for spruance while soviet love did nothing right?

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Why are you lumping/blaming me for the mafia night kill? YOU are a member of the mafia and YOU are better equipped to stop them than I am. It would help if you went into the night chat and actually communicated with them like a TEAM.

Your logic is flawed. Ergo, we listen to other people’s logic. Which is why your wagon on secondpassing consists of you, someone who needs to be banned, and a com hunter.

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More about this quoted post. You can't blame an investigator for leading a mafia night kill. But you can blame a dumb consort for not doing anything in night chat, then go cry all day long. If SJ says I can execute you, it will happen. That, or we'll lynch one out of you and blink.

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

Bupp. So what did MM do? I kinda missed the part of it even if i had mentioned it on my wall post i kinda forgot it.

MM a recap of what happened in night chat please. As far as i ve seen, you and second passing argued on who to kill and went for spruance while soviet love did nothing right?

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Basically yes lol. Just gonna review the posts in the night chat, brb...

If soviet love really did nothing to stop you guys, then it s his fault for not blocking you guys' path. Which trying to emotionly trying to manipulate us that you guys WENT and KILLED the Spruance. If you are silent about things you are as guilty as the commiters @Soviet_Love
Now after i will hear the story from mm, i want the full story from you on what happend in the night chat.

Is there any reason why we let Efe even sign up for these anymore?

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Basically yes lol. Just gonna review the posts in the night chat, brb...

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So basically, I lead the kill on scv N1 because I thought he was skyper, and 2ndpassing was ok with it. Soviet love just said things like "let's assume we are rule followers, what should we do? Hey let's not kill at night!" Things like that, veeeery useful, didn't debate on who to kill. Then he started saying it was a bad idea to kill scv because he was a thrower, but he had never objected against it before the kill happened. 2ndpassing was actually trying to play and help rule followers imo. Not sovietlove.

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Is there any reason why we let Efe even sign up for these anymore?

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Yes. Because he ACTUALLY thinks. I discovered this by kidnapping him, and it's the first time I realize he has a brain xD

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

No quotes. It’s just Suntax.

It would be better if we have either maf or Hybrid kill blink tonight to avoid a possible cuck.

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

can we just lynch blink so i dont feel unmotivated to play

-vote blinkskater

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Hell we can even lynch blink today and it would be fine, I’d just rather use the lynch as a tool and control then put Hybrid on a leash.

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tbh i gave up on the idea of lynching blink just in case. Those posts had been maden within the 3 days btw.

-unvote

I do want to say that @Soviet_Love

None of this is personal, and none of it should be considered personal. You’re a great player, and I’d love to keep playing with you. Don’t be discouraged. That’s something that we all need to remember sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

So basically, I lead the kill on scv N1 because I thought he was skyper, and 2ndpassing was ok with it. Soviet love just said things like "let's assume we are rule followers, what should we do? Hey let's not kill at night!" Things like that, veeeery useful, didn't debate on who to kill. Then he started saying it was a bad idea to kill scv because he was a thrower, but he had never objected against it before the kill happened. 2ndpassing was actually trying to play and help rule followers imo. Not sovietlove.

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kk i shall listen to what @Soviet_Love and @secondpassing would say forn ight chat now.

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

tbh i gave up on the idea of lynching blink just in case. Those posts had been maden within the 3 days btw.

-unvote

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You said yourself that opinions can vary wildly.
If you’d feel more comfortable with it then I’m fine with having mafia kill blink to avoid the opportunity that I’m a com hunter (even though you quoted day 1 posts and com hunters don’t get their target until d2)

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Originally Posted by naz

stopped reading at post 761 here are my replies so far:



I still don't understand how you know there is a jailor. None of the roles were confirmed.



he claimed escort yesterday (in game yesterday)


I also would like you to jail MM if we are not lynching him today.


I think that's because it would be such a give away since he revealed d1 he was kidnapper. He's probably saving that exe.

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Because some guy (don't remember who it was, blink maybe?) asked to host if there was both kidnapper and jailor, and host said yes.

Now look again at the naz-soviet theory. Blink both fits and doesn't fit... Schrödinger's scum.

Yes I am saving that exe. Saving it for blink/soviet. If no lynch today, I'll execute soviet if I'm allowed to, and blink if I'm not allowed to kill soviet.