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I'm putting a vote in spirit on Mizery.
Ceko has more benefit of the doubt from me since I feel like Oli's interactions with Ceko may have been predetermined by what Ceko did regardless of alignment
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also
Quote:
Originally Posted by
theoneceko
oli is not town lmfao
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mizery
Quote:
Originally Posted by
theoneceko
how u came to that conclusion i will never, know
oli is obvtowning rn
lol
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well frick I didn't I find anything worthwhile in DrZ's iso
even if I presumed miz was mafia because he made no mention of them
they don't really interact all that much with Oli and I couldn't make anything of it
and ofc they're against theoneceko
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Way I see it
chop Mizery today
presuming mafia flip
chop one of DrZ/Ceko
Probably Ceko if we just occam's razor; I think DrZ could've acted-out what he did as mafia but I think in order to do so it needed skill and skill therefore implies unlikelihood
If Miz is a town flip then I probably want to re-evaluate everyone except Channel
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@Mizery
I am thinking about chopping you today. Presuming you are the chop for today, who do you shoot (or are going to shoot)?
I would suggest shooting in whoever you think is mafia in DoctorZeus / theoneceko
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
@
Mizery
I am thinking about chopping you today. Presuming you are the chop for today, who do you shoot (or are going to shoot)?
I would suggest shooting in whoever you think is mafia in DoctorZeus / theoneceko
I'm between shooting you and mm. Mm feels lacking. The only reason I haven't shot you is because you used your shot so if I shoot anyone it should be mm
Also wondering why oli never shot- mm probably isn't a wolf simply because if the wolves were between mm/oli/the guy who shot oli all you need to do is shoot me and then someone else after that. Oli still had his shot right?
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Also because you simply have the most WIM here even if that's not a good reason to clear you
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I agree with whoever said Martin's explanation was mrr
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Ceko shooting lag first thing isn't ai imo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mizery
I'm between shooting you and mm. Mm feels lacking. The only reason I haven't shot you is because you used your shot so if I shoot anyone it should be mm
Also wondering why oli never shot- mm probably isn't a wolf simply because if the wolves were between mm/oli/the guy who shot oli all you need to do is shoot me and then someone else after that. Oli still had his shot right?
I don't think its MM.
Oli + MM world means mafia had 2 shots
all they had to do was shoot you and channel miner consecutively (presumably towns who did have shots)
and then they would mech win because town would be down 2 people to 3 mafia, and furthermore have no shots
I know both of these players can coordinate and so I doubt they would miss that fact --- especially after I pointed out to MM
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well actually come to think of it why didn't the mafia shoot if you were mafia as well
hmmmmmmmm
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okay so yesterday, before Oli died,
mm
channel
oli
miz
all had shots available
so if two of those were mafia
they could just shoot the others consecutively, assuming the timing of SoD worked out for them
thus instant win
the only reasons to not do that instant win is:
1. Not being aware of said instant win
2. At least one of members who were doing the daykills couldn't guarantee being there swiftly and risked getting shot instead (town would have to shoot the mafia with a daykill otherwise it ends in tie)
2b. Worry over the first & third mafia being chopped if the 2nd mafia got shot when trying to follow-up on the kills
3. A mafia with a shot was getting shot for town-value (<---I don't see this as likely given spew & also this sacrafices the instant win for a fancy play)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
okay so yesterday, before Oli died,
mm
channel
oli
miz
all had shots available
so if two of those were mafia
they could just shoot the others consecutively, assuming the timing of SoD worked out for them
thus instant win
the only reasons to not do that instant win is:
1. Not being aware of said instant win
2. At least one of members who were doing the daykills couldn't guarantee being there swiftly and risked getting shot instead (town would have to shoot the mafia with a daykill otherwise it ends in tie)
2b. Worry over the first & third mafia being chopped if the 2nd mafia got shot when trying to follow-up on the kills
3. A mafia with a shot was getting shot for town-value (<---I don't see this as likely given spew & also this sacrafices the instant win for a fancy play)
Wolf killing another wolf there out of those two is like lol
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so like it comes down to either, in my view:
Scenario A: There was only one mafia with a shot and that was Oli.
Implies that the last two of the mafia are in DrZ/Ceko (and me if you're not me)
Scenario B: One of the mafia w/ a shot couldn't get to shooting quickly due to IRL & mafia thought they could've been shot by town before shooting
Implies that maybe Mizery, MM, or channel could be that second mafia. (I find Channel to be least likely)
Last mafia would be in Ceko/DrZ (and me if you're not me)
Scenario C: Channel Miner did it for the cred instead of getting a win. (Which, again, I find unlikely)
Last mafia would be in Ceko/DrZ (and me if you're not me)
Scenario D: Mafia derped and wasn't aware of the instant win that they could have had.....despite me sorta pointing it out early in the previous day phase.
Implies that the remaining mafia WHO ARE NOT:
DrZ (If he were mafia he definitely would've read everything in this low-ish post-count game)
MM
Martin
Meaning the remaining mafia is in
Mizery
Ceko
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
Scenario D: Mafia derped and wasn't aware of the instant win that they could have had.....despite me sorta pointing it out early in the previous day phase.
Implies that the remaining mafia WHO ARE NOT:
DrZ (If he were mafia he definitely would've read everything in this low-ish post-count game)
MM
Martin
Meaning the remaining mafia is in
Mizery
Ceko
Channel
Ebwop
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So, like, the only world I could see MM being mafia is if they thought MM would be shot before he gets a shot off (Scenario B)
Which I really doubt as I haven't seen anyone put much or any sus on MM
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In preety much every situation except D
Mafia in DrZ/Ceko
so I suggest shooting there
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So with all of that scenario thinking (and the mech that mafia could've had an instant win) out of the way....
-vote Mizery
Lights, camera, ACTION!
Let's see who gets shot today. Whoever you shoot may decide you or (if mafia) your teammates fate, whoever they may be. My current theory is Mizery + Ceko as stated before.
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Could also be Ceko + DrZ I guess
maaaayyyybbbeeee
that would probably be my 2nd theory if we assume mizery is town
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Ceko is kinda always mafia fmpov
but I wanna pressure Mizery since they have a shot and that may be able to tell who of Mizery/DrZ is the other wolf
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martin is trying to solve the game. i dont understand his brada shot, but if he is maf he is playing extremely well
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The battle of wits has begun!
It ends when you decide and we both drink.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-07-2015/VGTNHD.gif
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i think mizery/zeusy are the simplest team. using oog stuff like "i felt this emotion" is rly NAI, zeus shot oberon and ill nevr forgive him for that game-wise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
so like it comes down to either, in my view:
Scenario A: There was only one mafia with a shot and that was Oli.
Implies that the last two of the mafia are in DrZ/Ceko (and me if you're not me)
Scenario B: One of the mafia w/ a shot couldn't get to shooting quickly due to IRL & mafia thought they could've been shot by town before shooting
Implies that maybe Mizery, MM, or channel could be that second mafia. (I find Channel to be least likely)
Last mafia would be in Ceko/DrZ (and me if you're not me)
Scenario C: Channel Miner did it for the cred instead of getting a win. (Which, again, I find unlikely)
Last mafia would be in Ceko/DrZ (and me if you're not me)
Scenario D: Mafia derped and wasn't aware of the instant win that they could have had.....despite me sorta pointing it out early in the previous day phase.
Implies that the remaining mafia WHO ARE NOT:
DrZ (If he were mafia he definitely would've read everything in this low-ish post-count game)
MM
Martin
Meaning the remaining mafia is in
Mizery
Ceko
Seeing as the moment the wolves shot I voiced the last option means lol not me lol
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u have done nothing to convince us u are town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mizery
Seeing as the moment the wolves shot I voiced the last option means lol not me lol
wdym
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If I am put at l-1 I will shoot martin.
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Now, for those of you wondering how I knew Oli was a goon: I didn't. I just didn't like the way he was typing. Anyways, I am a hero, I shot one of the goons.
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I appreciate MM for trying to convince town not to shoot but lynching takes too much time. Sometimes you have to take justice into your own hands.
-vote Mizery
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Mizery's reluctance to shoot makes me think he is a goon because he doesn't want to waste a shot on someone who doesn't have a gun.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
well actually come to think of it why didn't the mafia shoot if you were mafia as well
hmmmmmmmm
this @ceko
exactly what he said: and what i said before
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mizery
I'm between shooting you and mm. Mm feels lacking. The only reason I haven't shot you is because you used your shot so if I shoot anyone it should be mm
Also wondering why oli never shot- mm probably isn't a wolf simply because if the wolves were between mm/oli/the guy who shot oli all you need to do is shoot me and then someone else after that. Oli still had his shot right?
This
If I was a wolf I woulda shot, then oli woulda shot, then we win. MM and the other guy who had shots left before oli died woulda been the ones we shot so
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
ChannelMiner
Mizery's reluctance to shoot makes me think he is a goon because he doesn't want to waste a shot on someone who doesn't have a gun.
If i shoot martin and he flips town then unless MM is a villager we have no shots left. If MM is a villager then it doesn't matter because wolves can't shoot him though.
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spicy take: it's channel and he shot oli because oli wouldn't agree with him on who should be shot
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
spicy take: it's channel and he shot oli because oli wouldn't agree with him on who should be shot
Thats dumb, you're dumb. This is why I am voting to lynch you.
I am also somewhat weary of MM, he didn't want town to shoot, maybe because he knows that if town never has the opportunity to shoot then they can insta-win but striking first.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
theoneceko
chanel mvp?
You know it kid.
B)
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Anyways I shot because I realised that if I did not shoot soon, I might not have the opportunity to shoot at all before a goon shoots me.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
This is soooo sooooo soooooooo much rationalization lmao. You shot Brad and
then thought about reasons to justify your murder. Plus, those reasons are terribly... weak. Like, even if I try to have town!Martin's perspective while holding the assumptions based on meta as true (which makes a lot of pro-Martin assumptions), I don't see how this could possibly justify a murder. Which brings me back to what I think I said yesterday: Martin shot because he was afraid he would get lynched, which would have meant his scum team would have lost a shot on a townie. See
#277 as well: it still holds.
-vote MartinGG99
Also, ANYONE SHOOTING ANYONE IS SCUM CLAIMING AND WILL BE SHOT BY ME TOMORROW. If I'm the one who's shot, I dare hope townies will shoot the killer too lol. Today, we are LYNCHING someone. It's not like we have no choices among those who have already shot: we have Ceko, Zeus and Martin. If all three of them are town, we absolutely deserve to lose anyway lol. I think ceko is probably town after all (
#257).
ceko, zeus, martin are the people put forth by mm for lunch targets. the people who shot someone already.
mm, me, Oli, martin, Ceko, Channel, dz
Me, Oli, Channel, mm were 4 who hadn't shot
If you assume MM is a wolf, then theoretically there are 1-2 wolves in [me, channel] and then 0-1 wolves in [dz, ceko]. Which means from my view two wolves in [channel, DZ, Ceko]
I don't think that channel can be a wolf with MM simply because of how different their approaches are. In what world do three wolves, each with a shot, attack eachother?
MM - Martin
MM - DZ
MM - CM
MM - Ceko
Martin - DZ
Martin - CM
Martin - Ceko
DZ - CM
DZ - Ceko
CM - Ceko
Is this? all that is possible? I'm not a math person.
MM - Martin
MM - DZ
MM - CM
MM - Ceko
Martin - DZ
Martin - CM
Martin - Ceko
DZ - CM
DZ - Ceko
CM - Ceko
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MM - Martin
MM - DZ
MM - Ceko
Martin - DZ
Martin - CM
Martin - Ceko
DZ - CM
DZ - Ceko
CM - Ceko
MM - CM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverz144
lol!
tu parlez francais?
MM isn't a wolf
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mizery
MM - Martin
MM - DZ
MM - Ceko
Martin - DZ
Martin - CM
Martin - Ceko
DZ - CM
DZ - Ceko
CM - Ceko
MM - CM
Martin - DZ
Martin - CM
Martin - Ceko
DZ - CM
DZ - Ceko
CM - Ceko
MM - Martin
MM - DZ
MM - Ceko
MM - CM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverz144
-vote oliverz144
martin right. hammering? NO!
mrrr not martin?
if not channel means poe it's ceko/Dz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
theoneceko
i think mizery/zeusy are the simplest team. using oog stuff like "i felt this emotion" is rly NAI, zeus shot oberon and ill nevr forgive him for that game-wise
feeling emotions when you read posts isn't an oog thing?? lol, it's like a vibe read.
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We vote ceko out and then tomorrow me and mm can shoot dz/martin if he's town. or dz/martin if he's wolf. ez
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always shoot dz first but as long as MM is town we don't really lose this
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unless yall kill me in which case chances go up
put me at -1 and I'm shooting martin though.