S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

I meant "I'm not so sure about what people saw about Zedus that was different from Zedus' normal game, but I don't see it myself."

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Yes, that's my normal game :)

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Originally Posted by Mike

Let me explain. It is the only town role but it is the only role demons can kill at night. Demons can not kill any monks at night only blackmail them.

So only way a demon can kill at night is to Check not blackmail the Exorcist. So we need to make it so mafia will not know who the real exorcist is. If we get to many people claiming monk it narrows it down who the exorcist is to the demons. Becuse our of 9 they already know 2 who are not it. Meaning that leaves 7 people. When a town hard claims Monk they will be able to narrow down and increase there chances of hitong the PR.


Thai or role serves no purpose to town to be known. So yes I screwed up at the water before. I truly read the setup.

So tonight I eatger die if checked
Or
If I am fake and am really a Monk then I live and now one of the n have to fake being blackmailed. And that outs them.

So everyone should claim PR. To help mislead the demons.

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Incorrect. I understand what you're saying but this might give us problems if we are lynching the real Exorcist and we lynch him cause "everyone is supposed to claim Exorcist". I much prefer Frinckles' plan of everyone claiming Monk. That way Exorcist can counterclaim if scum claims Exorcist. In the other case the real Exorcist wouldn't know if the scum is just claiming Exorcist as everyone is doing per your plan or he's lying.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Incorrect. I understand what you're saying but this might give us problems if we are lynching the real Exorcist and we lynch him cause "everyone is supposed to claim Exorcist". I much prefer Frinckles' plan of everyone claiming Monk. That way Exorcist can counterclaim if scum claims Exorcist. In the other case the real Exorcist wouldn't know if the scum is just claiming Exorcist as everyone is doing per your plan or he's lying.

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^ this. Or even better plan:

WE STOP DISCUSSING MASSCLAIMS AND LET THOSE WHO WANT TO WIFOM WIFOM IN PEACE

I HARDCLAIM MONK

Discuss this and I add "Shaolin" to my claim and punch you with a vote.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

@Zedus what are your reads (who do you think is town or scum)?

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3 pages of slow talking is not enougth for me, sorry.

Mike is attentionwh... wait, this word is bad... attentionlover. Can be scum strategy. Or not.
Auwt is little differ from Auwt I played before. But it's not heavy reason to suspect him.
Frinckles' "work with me" was a little weird for me, for real.

Nothing about others for now, need more info, also it's midnight here, so I will read everything again with fresh mind tomorrow, after sleeping.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Incorrect. I understand what you're saying but this might give us problems if we are lynching the real Exorcist and we lynch him cause "everyone is supposed to claim Exorcist". I much prefer Frinckles' plan of everyone claiming Monk. That way Exorcist can counterclaim if scum claims Exorcist. In the other case the real Exorcist wouldn't know if the scum is just claiming Exorcist as everyone is doing per your plan or he's lying.

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Pro-town-like.
Totally agree.

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

Going with this one. :)

-vote gyrlander

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Oh boy you don't wanna do that

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

nah gyrlanders two posts have been to discredit (i hate that word) mikes slot and mine.

And I don't really care for speculation about my slot between games that isn't meta related. I did what I thought I could do to win and it almost worked. I'd do that any mafia game.

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When will you guys learn I don't think much before posting. I don't plan on "discrediting people" lol.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

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I'm tempted... but no lol
THOU SHALT NOT POCKET ME
...YET

Give me a reason to townread you through your actions. (This action cannot be to say "I am town!", sorry :))


How did I reach such a terrible point lol

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It has been a very very very long while since you scumread me so I won't do anything targeted at you to pocket you. Don't worry :D

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Originally Posted by Zedus

3 pages of slow talking is not enougth for me, sorry.

Mike is attentionwh... wait, this word is bad... attentionlover. Can be scum strategy. Or not.
Auwt is little differ from Auwt I played before. But it's not heavy reason to suspect him.
Frinckles' "work with me" was a little weird for me, for real.

Nothing about others for now, need more info, also it's midnight here, so I will read everything again with fresh mind tomorrow, after sleeping.

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lol. He definetly wanted to be noticed as someone doing "pro-town stuff", which is scummy, but on the other hand, I could see him doing that as town due to his personality, so that's on stand-by until he posts more.
I don't think Auwt has a stable meta, so it's probably NAI.
I didn't see anything bad about Frinckles' "work with me"; you were not being super constructive lol.

Fair though, I like what I see as of now.


People around are mostly towny, so by PoE I'm putting my nonexistent money on Martin and DM atm.

Well, Auwt, FrostByte and Martin are the only ones who haven't been written about in my notes.

:)

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Well, Auwt, FrostByte and Martin are the only ones who haven't been written about in my notes.

:)

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No notes about FrostByte? He was pretty memorable with his speech on shitposting and his take on Mike lol. Does that mean you have no reads on him, or that you just didn't bother to write stuff?

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

No notes about FrostByte? He was pretty memorable with his speech on shitposting and his take on Mike lol. Does that mean you have no reads on him, or that you just didn't bother to write stuff?

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No reads.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

No reads.

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Go re-read him then :calix:

ngl I'm not feeling the crazy amount of meta here. The type of people to play FM are the type of people who generally are able to manipulate their perceived attitude within an FM game and so it doesn't seem that helpful to meta people based on past behavior.

I'm definitely not feeling the host meta shit, that's gonna ruin the fun for everyone.

either way it's d1. don't hardread anyone because it's almost entirely random.

General opinions: should town lynch d1 or no? I generally lean on no in every circumstance because I fucking hate being rando lynched d1 and I don't wanna do that to anyone else, but I might be convinced if someone can make a strong case for it.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Go re-read him then :calix:

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Considering he hasn't triggered a reaction the first time I read him trying to force it may be a bad idea.

DAGA KOTOWARU

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

lol. He definetly wanted to be noticed as someone doing "pro-town stuff", which is scummy, but on the other hand, I could see him doing that as town due to his personality, so that's on stand-by until he posts more.

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How well do you actually know him, though? People are generally very different irl compared to who they are on forums, and even more different in FM.

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

ngl I'm not feeling the crazy amount of meta here. The type of people to play FM are the type of people who generally are able to manipulate their perceived attitude within an FM game and so it doesn't seem that helpful to meta people based on past behavior.

I'm definitely not feeling the host meta shit, that's gonna ruin the fun for everyone.

either way it's d1. don't hardread anyone because it's almost entirely random.

General opinions: should town lynch d1 or no? I generally lean on no in every circumstance because I fucking hate being rando lynched d1 and I don't wanna do that to anyone else, but I might be convinced if someone can make a strong case for it.

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Yes

-vote FrostByte

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

No reads.

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I support this as the logical way to go about doing things.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Yes

[vote]FrostByte

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Interesting. So you see me telling people to calm down and not act rashly... and that leads you to vote me?

You're either scum or dumb. Pick one.

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

ngl I'm not feeling the crazy amount of meta here. The type of people to play FM are the type of people who generally are able to manipulate their perceived attitude within an FM game and so it doesn't seem that helpful to meta people based on past behavior.

I'm definitely not feeling the host meta shit, that's gonna ruin the fun for everyone.

either way it's d1. don't hardread anyone because it's almost entirely random.

General opinions: should town lynch d1 or no? I generally lean on no in every circumstance because I fucking hate being rando lynched d1 and I don't wanna do that to anyone else, but I might be convinced if someone can make a strong case for it.

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Host meta is for heathens. It doesn't even work 99 % of the time anyway.

D1 reads are not random at all, and they provide critical info later on. I was in a game off-site that just ended, and town won mainly because it was able to detect townies that were spewed clear by flipped scum.

I like D1 lynches because they give information to work with early on; to use my example again, town was able to detect townies because scums had flipped early. Plus, the lynch type is plurality + majority, so we don't exactly have a choice.

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

Interesting. So you see me telling people to calm down and not act rashly... and that leads you to vote me?

You're either scum or dumb. Pick one.

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Is this an overreaction?

I pick dumb, however.

Why would I not act rashly when there's only people L-4. I even checked if you were a train before voting you.

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

How well do you actually know him, though? People are generally very different irl compared to who they are on forums, and even more different in FM.

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We've been playing together ever since he began playing FM, so... well enough to know how he plays. I don't claim to know the deepest secrets of his being lol, but it isn't necessary when it comes to using meta.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Is this an overreaction?

I pick dumb, however.

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I'm dumb too, don't worry lmao

Since you like to meta, maybe you should read my post history and see whether or not this is typical form for me.

Here's a hint:

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

shitposting is fun, though. that's why I've been muted and banned from this forum more times than I can count lmao

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

We've been playing together ever since he began playing FM, so... well enough to know how he plays. I don't claim to know the deepest secrets of his being lol, but it isn't necessary when it comes to using meta.

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This is a good point and being confident in your reads can be useful. My point is that you shouldn't rely too heavily on them.

I've got a D&D session starting in a few hours and I still gotta prep so I'm probably not gonna be super active for a while. Still gonna lurk though.

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

I'm dumb too, don't worry lmao

Since you like to meta, maybe you should read my post history and see whether or not this is typical form for me.

Here's a hint:

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Sorry, you don't count :P
I haven't seen you in FM until you signed for this game, which means you haven't played in years and very likely changed. You literally played FM X lol.

Gyrlander fell for mikes trap:0

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

I'm dumb too, don't worry lmao

Since you like to meta, maybe you should read my post history and see whether or not this is typical form for me.

Here's a hint:

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When have I even mentioned meta? You're the first one bringing it up.

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

Gyrlander fell for mikes trap:0

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Hopefully it's a Towny trap.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

When have I even mentioned meta? You're the first one bringing it up.

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i think he's talking to me

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

When have I even mentioned meta? You're the first one bringing it up.

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

It has been a very very very long while since you scumread me so I won't do anything targeted at you to pocket you. Don't worry https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/image...s/bigsmile.gif

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^this

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

When will you guys learn I don't think much before posting. I don't plan on "discrediting people" lol.

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and this ^

pls don't be salty is only game

Going off to do something with my life (maybe). I'd like to see DM's take on, well, everything that has been said until now, since he hasn't said anything about anything. Same about Martin to a lesser extent (he didn't say nothing, but I'd still like to see more).

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Going off to do something with my life (maybe).

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Careful, Mike might call you scum for that lol

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

^this


and this ^

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I mean... i'm not using meta to read people.

First post I'm talking about games very long past and saying it has been quite a while since MM scumread me.

And then the second one says about something I do, even at this game. You don't need to check other games, I'm saying you I'm like this. If you believe me or not, that's your decision.

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

pls don't be salty is only game

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If this is directed at me don't worry. I'm talking in a very "serious" way but I'm not serious at all. In fact I'm singing listening to Ariana Grande.

hee hee

Mike - Lock Town
Frost - Lock Town
DM - Extremely Town entrance
MM - Sure why the hell not
Martin/Zedus - Borderline on these two, probably town or third mafia here
Auwt/Gyrlander - Bad guys awkward interactions that make no sense when they even attempt to

gg ill be back later. dont worry about being lynched, we're all monks bro

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

If that were the setup I would honestly consider quitting lol

Having a Zedus + Martin scum-team just after my last scum game would be annoying (Not that I dislike Zedus as a teammate, rather I just like having different teammates each time).

Not only that, the 3P player virus player from Spirits II is now claiming/softing to be the exorcist (a power role) would make me feel like @Ganelon has it out after me.

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Ok change from Sus to town

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

Tbh I feel like this is a statement set-up to sus him either way.

In past games where he has OMGUS'ed (or whatever you like to call it) as town all he has gotten is just negative feedback and suspicion. You even wanted to thunder-dome and eliminate regardless in that one Banana game recently.

And yet you're criticizing him for doing something different and on-the-spot?

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I will have to move you to my top town.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Mmm, you're too slippery and confusing as scum for me to immediatly jump in your pocket for your weird behavior lol, but I can see town!Mike doing this.

-unvote

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MM is so Naked town it is not funny. I am loving it I have 2 lock town.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

H O S T M E T A S U C K S

Stop speculating

-vote MartinGG99

That is fair, though. Zedus gets attacked every game for his style, and now you're attacking him because he is changing it lol.

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MM if you town read me trust me he is town.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Is it bad that I terribly townread this lol? I really think it's what town!Frinckles would reply to this: "Evils wins almost every game at this forum, except some lucky for town games. Why you think this game will be differ?"

As for Gyrlander "discrediting", I'd rather say he pointed out things that were weak/didn't make much sense. Not really discrediting, but rather poking. I expect more from him eventually, but for now, I don't think it's too bad.

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Freckles is town you are town Martin is town we just need to find a few more and lynch the rest

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Originally Posted by Zedus

I like you (personaly), but I don't trust you (ingame).

I will put my paranoic mode on and only looking around today. Yes, I will be more active later.

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This is a verry townie post

-unvote

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Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Incorrect. I understand what you're saying but this might give us problems if we are lynching the real Exorcist and we lynch him cause "everyone is supposed to claim Exorcist". I much prefer Frinckles' plan of everyone claiming Monk. That way Exorcist can counterclaim if scum claims Exorcist. In the other case the real Exorcist wouldn't know if the scum is just claiming Exorcist as everyone is doing per your plan or he's lying.

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Ok maybe my plan was flawed. Ok I claim monk .

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

Careful, Mike might call you scum for that lol

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Please explain why?

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

Mike - Lock Town
Frost - Lock Town
DM - Extremely Town entrance
MM - Sure why the hell not
Martin/Zedus - Borderline on these two, probably town or third mafia here
Auwt/Gyrlander - Bad guys awkward interactions that make no sense when they even attempt to

gg ill be back later. dont worry about being lynched, we're all monks bro

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I am not hating the Auwt/ gyr team.

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

Mike - Lock Town
Frost - Lock Town
DM - Extremely Town entrance
MM - Sure why the hell not
Martin/Zedus - Borderline on these two, probably town or third mafia here
Auwt/Gyrlander - Bad guys awkward interactions that make no sense when they even attempt to

gg ill be back later. dont worry about being lynched, we're all monks bro

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Also why do you have frost lock town I have been scum reading him. What am I missing.

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Originally Posted by Mike

Also why do you have frost lock town I have been scum reading him. What am I missing.

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Originally Posted by Mike

FrostByte Town

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Originally Posted by Mike

Ok change from Sus to town

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Originally Posted by Mike

I will have to move you to my top town.

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Originally Posted by Mike

BTW anyone who claims Monk Should be insta lynched. In this setup it would be anti town for anyone to claim. Monk.

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Originally Posted by Mike

Ok maybe my plan was flawed. Ok I claim monk .

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You're talking too much and you're saying nothing. If jester were an option I'd think you were jester. With this setup though I'm reading scum. Seems like you're doing your best to post as much as you can and confuse everyone. It's in town's best interest to be as logical as possible. You, being the experienced mafia player you are, know that already.

-vote Mike

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Originally Posted by FrostByte

You're talking too much and you're saying nothing. If jester were an option I'd think you were jester. With this setup though I'm reading scum. Seems like you're doing your best to post as much as you can and confuse everyone. It's in town's best interest to be as logical as possible. You, being the experienced mafia player you are, know that already.

-vote Mike

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Interesting. You read my posts as trying to confuse town??? not Scum????

I don't know what to make of you. I am posting because not much posting going on at all this game.
I Have been trying to help town. I have given alot of info That as Scum I would never do as it would be agest my wincon.

Also, I would have stoped posting a while back why as scum with a team of 2 bring this much heat on myself. Again if i was scum argent my win con. I think you want to know for sure AM I the PR or not. you want to scare me with your vote into Hard Claiming my role.

But Frenkles has you as lock town. So I can just be wrong unless you and frinkles are both teamed and he is working on pocketing me. Then I feel MM is pocketing me. helll only 2 scum not 3. So my paranoya is getting the better of me.

I would not be upset with my lynch would be fun seeing what town would do when they see my flip lol.