S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

realistically I'd ask MM to shoot first at dz/ceko but that's not gonna happen with his view on gun control rn

part of me sees martin/ceko as insanely w/w because of how martin has approached the whole "ceko needs to die but like always later just later" thing.

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Originally Posted by Mizery

If I am put at l-1 I will shoot martin.

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??????AEFAWE?F?WF??

MY MIZERY/ZEUS TEAM IS CORRECT

woohoo many replies and an open thread
you managed to controll your barbarian emotions for once, congrats!

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

Additionally: Why does !mafia Martin, who is supposedly trying to make the most of the mafia shots, shoot brad?

Why not Oberon, you, or anyone else?

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whats the point in shooting "anyone" else who isnt a threat to you?

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Originally Posted by oliverz144

whats the point in shooting "anyone" else who isnt a threat to you?

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you

are dead

lmfao

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

There's the fact I kinda mindmeld on Ceko looking at Oliver sideways and the fact I feel like he's town (gut), while you're Mr. Word Salad (and I asked for SALAD, not SOUP! :p). And then there's the fact you're 10x more rational than Ceko is. There's also the fact you were threatened before shooting, whereas Ceko was threatened after shooting (and directly because of it). His play makes zero sense as any alignment, but at least has the explanation of "I thought it was a troll game", whereas yours really doesn't have anything going for it, especially considering the reasons to shoot Brad, which you gave MUCH after you shot him, are weak.

Also, you liking distancing doesn't mean you wouldn't shoot town before dying as scum. That is irrelevant.

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why are you now integrating my name into your propaganda speech?

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Originally Posted by Mizery

you

are dead

lmfao

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wait for real? how when why can i still post?!

-daykill DoctorZeus
@Stealthbomber16

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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Day 5

oliverz144 was shot by ChannelMiner. oliverz144 was a Goon.
6 players alive, 4 votes to hammer.

Player Name	Role	Day Killed
Lag	Citizen	Day 1
@Marshmallow Marshall	N/A	Alive
oliverz144	Goon	Day 4
@MartinGG99	N/A	Alive
@Mizery	N/A	Alive
@DoctorZeus	N/A	Alive
BradLand	Citizen	Day 2
@ChannelMiner	N/A	Alive
Oberon	Citizen	Day 3
@theoneceko	N/A	Alive

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bah.
not even 12 hours of thread silence to pay me condolence.

My apologies for the delay. Its… been a week.

Day will reopen at 9 pm cst.

Day 6

DoctorZeus was shot by Mizery. DoctorZeus was a Goon.
5 players alive, 3 votes to hammer.

Player Name	Role	Day Killed
Lag	Citizen	Day 1
@Marshmallow Marshall	N/A	Alive
oliverz144	Goon	Day 4
@MartinGG99	N/A	Alive
@Mizery	N/A	Alive
DoctorZeus	Goon	Day 5
BradLand	Citizen	Day 2
@ChannelMiner	N/A	Alive
Oberon	Citizen	Day 3
@theoneceko	N/A	Alive

Well, I'll be damned.

So it was DoctorZeus and I should've just suspected him more.
@Marshmallow Marshall would appreciate your thoughts on Mizery because I mildly wonder if I am wrong in that Miz (if wolf) could've suicided into you and then let me just continue pushing the (then-wrong) Miz + Ceko theory

It would buy the wolves the most chance I think in the end if we imagine a Mizery + DoctorZeus world

And, on the flip side of presuming Miz is town, I think Miz shooting DoctorZeus is probably the most towniest thing to do here as it does follow the implications that I laid out yesterday as shown in #416 and #419

interesting, so..

it is martin or mm?

UwU

Whew lol. Finally, I'm the last one with a shot, so people will stop shooting everywhere. Damn Americans :calix:

ChannelMiner shooting his scummate like this out of the blue is... unlikely. The only world I see it happening is a world where Oliver advises him to do exactly that (unless he really is a crazy new player lol, and he would have all my admiration for it if he had the idea himself as scum with his scummate's consent). Anyway, good shot from ChannelMiner. I think he should always be considered town here; on the off chance he is scum, he kinda deserves this as a first game anyway.

So, I was thinking Ceko's push on Oliver might be cleaning him. I went to check...

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

"0MG HOW D0ES THE MAFIA WORK"

-vote oliverz144

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4 minutes later in a consecutive post:

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

he literally did nothing but

-vote theoneceko

no reads whatsoever

last game he was town and he gave tons of reads, attacking posts of many players

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Yeah no, it doesn't count...

At this point, I don't feel the "gut townread" on Ceko anymore, it decayed due to lack of meaningful participation and even more so due to the lack of spew on Ceko.

-vote theoneceko

What do you have to say in your defense, Ceko? Who's scum if not you?

if we get to final four, dont lynch mm, and mm is scum, town loses on account of his gun

0w0

pretty sure i was the first to suspect oliver and zeus lol

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

BLAH, BLAH BLAH

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

my credibility is shot after shotting lag, but u guys r gona let oliver slip by AGAIN

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Hmm, this was after the self-vote (which doesnt work here), though. Could it be that ceko really just doesn't care about playing well and prefers to cancel his vote? Because he's still going after Oli here

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

BLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH !!!!

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ty for sharing

im about to get greylisted like Efe,

U KN0 WHO IM TALKIN AB0WT

U SH00T ME U R M0D ABUSE

UN=U

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

BLAH, BLAH BLAH

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FailFish

Nevermind, it's probably not you. Because that... is dumb, as scum. And I had missed context of your weird vote switching above.

Mizery shooting Zeus is... possible? Especially since suspicion was going on him. Maybe he did not trust Zeus, with how little towncred Zeus had at that point, to lead his team to victory as last scum, so he decided to go full American bus? It feels a little far-fetched, though.

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

ty for sharing

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Hey, stop stealing Banana's jokes :calix:

mm, shoot me !

SHOOT ME !!!!!!!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

-unvote

Mizery and Martin are my two scumspects atm, purely by PoE. I didn't thoroughly check if they had spew going for them, though.

UvU

SH00T THIS CUTE BIRB WTF DUDE

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

SHOOT ME !!!!!!!!

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Can you just stop trolling? This isn't exactly fun, and you're not helping town here.

Unless you're scum, in which case I will slap Oberon post-game for convincing me you weren't that bad early game even though you made the worst random shot in recent American history lol.

dammit, birds do not have green beaks!

=clearly i am scum, fake greenbird, = real scum,

HEWO

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Can you just stop trolling? This isn't exactly fun, and you're not helping town here.

Unless you're scum, in which case I will slap Oberon post-game for convincing me you weren't that bad early game even though you made the worst random shot in recent American history lol.

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of course

@Marshmallow Marshall dunno if i can ask this (i probably can), but can we start the signups for texorami ?? or we playin library f0rst

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

I don't think its MM.

Oli + MM world means mafia had 2 shots

all they had to do was shoot you and channel miner consecutively (presumably towns who did have shots)

and then they would mech win because town would be down 2 people to 3 mafia, and furthermore have no shots

I know both of these players can coordinate and so I doubt they would miss that fact --- especially after I pointed out to MM

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

well actually come to think of it why didn't the mafia shoot if you were mafia as well

hmmmmmmmm

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If Martin faked genuine town reasoning here, he did really damn well. This sparks a general reevaluation too, adding to the feeling.

REEEEE Y'ALL HAVE THINGS GOING FOR YOU

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

@Marshmallow Marshall dunno if i can ask this (i probably can), but can we start the signups for texorami ?? or we playin library f0rst

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Naw, not just yet, we have things planned, and I'll have to coordinate with Lag for this. Let's not clutter the game thread with this though lol

Who do you think is scum? And if the only answer you can find is "YOU!!!" for some reason lol, then can you at least give reasons why others are town? Do you think we're giving too much of a free pass to ChannelMiner, who hasn't really been active apart from his god-shot?

hmm ok so it looks like town has this in the bag
MM should just shoot someone already

-vote theoneceko

-_-

Y ES, H0NEY??v

omg,thats an emaji

hi chanel !!

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Now you all see why playing this game is not good for me. I get a flood of ideas when trying to decide someone's alignment.

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same
i do too *ciries and sheds tear

chanel does not read the game i think,

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Originally Posted by ChannelMiner

Now, for those of you wondering how I knew Oli was a goon: I didn't. I just didn't like the way he was typing. Anyways, I am a hero, I shot one of the goons.

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u ppl r missing somthing crucial,

maf has a 24/7 daychat

this means that scum r less likely to interact w each other in the thread.

the posts from oli and zeus support this theory. this is the only time they talked to each other:

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Originally Posted by DoctorZeus

Cecko-oberon w-w

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Originally Posted by oliverz144

elaborate

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Originally Posted by DoctorZeus

Cecko put an Attack on me to defend Oberon in a really sideye way

Oberon had the weird wifom long post on cekco

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Originally Posted by oliverz144

after kek flips s
how do we know it masnt wk?

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Originally Posted by DoctorZeus

What's wk?

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Originally Posted by oliverz144

white knighting

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Originally Posted by DoctorZeus

Cuz it doesn't feel like actually defending Oberon.

Hes attacking me + my case

I find "wk" to he when they argue someone's v not attack the w case

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both talked a lot to me, but were unwilling to shoot bc they figured id get lynched or shot by some1 else. after all, i am an easy target. i think scum have been rly hesitant this game, which may tie into mizery and mm. they know i am town, but dont want to lose towncred for lynching/shooting my ridiculous slot.

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

u ppl r missing somthing crucial,

maf has a 24/7 daychat

this means that scum r less likely to interact w each other in the thread.

the posts from oli and zeus support this theory. this is the only time they talked to each other:

both talked a lot to me, but were unwilling to shoot bc they figured id get lynched or shot by some1 else. after all, i am an easy target. i think scum have been rly hesitant this game, which may tie into mizery and mm. they know i am town, but dont want to lose towncred for lynching/shooting my ridiculous slot.

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Clever scum will try to talk to eachother to avoid being obvious, but you have a point. Also, "hesitant" is not how I would describe my play this game...

Aaaaaalso

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Originally Posted by ChannelMiner

This guy looks sus.

-daykill BradLand
@Stealthbomber16

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lol. I had forgotten about this. It just reinforces my townread on CM: the kill on Oliver was similar to what would have been the kill on Brad if he hadn't already been shot before. It just happened to be a lucky shot, more or less.

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Originally Posted by Mizery

what

this is miz

not martin

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Originally Posted by Mizery

oli is town though lmfao

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

oli is not town lmfao

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

how u came to that conclusion i will never, know

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Yeah this is town Ceko, scum Ceko never goes out like this to prevent his scummate from getting townread, it makes zero sense. However, scum!Mizery could very well have found a "reason" to townread a scummate here.

-vote Mizery

Is there any real spew indicating Mizery is town? If not, I think we got our last scum. If I have time to, I'll read their ISO to check

i rly think oli and zeus spewed me as town

wth mm -_-

H0LY FUCK i keep pysting emaji's

Reading Mizery ISO

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Originally Posted by Mizery

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Originally Posted by oliverz144

lol!
tu parlez francais?

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MM isn't a wolf

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if I were to stretch a bit, this could be TMI, considering that Oliver asking me if I speak French is not exactly clearing me lol.

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

i rly think oli and zeus spewed me as town

wth mm -_-

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I'm not sure where you see Zeus spewing you as town tbh, but your behavior towards Oliver really did imo. Also, why "what the hell mm", I'm saying you're very probably town and Mizery is probably scum lol

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Originally Posted by Mizery

If I am put at l-1 I will shoot martin.

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This post indicates Mizery felt threatened (and arguably rightfully so) around the time he shot Zeus. I can't really see the reasoning leading to "zeus is scum and should be shot" in Mizery's ISO; in fact, Zeus is remarkably not a topic in his posts, which makes shooting him out of the blue (or out of the Bloo? ha ha ha) very strange when the action is put back in its context.

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Originally Posted by Mizery

oli is obvtowning rn

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Yeaaaaaaaaaah. The entirety of Mizery's ISO speaks against himself here. Really, the only thing that speaks for him is the potential missed win thingy. That being said, it doesn't really confirm anything, since you can't expect people to always play optimally, and there may have been fear of getting shot/lynched/whatever, since it's quite ballsy and quite obvious, too.

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

I'm not sure where you see Zeus spewing you as town tbh, but your behavior towards Oliver really did imo. Also, why "what the hell mm", I'm saying you're very probably town and Mizery is probably scum lol

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mm okok

if u shoot me u r 1000000% scum tho