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Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless
Alright, I'm gonna go off. I am pretty sure Mizery is the last scum here. Thoughts on the matter appreciated, will read them tomorrow.
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i just do not want to get lynched as town. it would be my VERY first time
also, ive survived to the late-game every time i was TOWN, which is hilarious
im actually luckier than a lot of FM players in this regard bc i love being town,
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@ChannelMiner
i get that ur not rly reading the game, but i dont get why u think i am scum
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Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Alright, I'm gonna go off. I am pretty sure Mizery is the last scum here. Thoughts on the matter appreciated, will read them tomorrow.
u should shoot martin lol
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
-unvote
Mizery and Martin are my two scumspects atm, purely by PoE. I didn't thoroughly check if they had spew going for them, though.
Is this a joke
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Alright, I'm gonna go off. I am pretty sure Mizery is the last scum here. Thoughts on the matter appreciated, will read them tomorrow.
I legit just shot dz
In what world as a partner with dz do I do that
In what world as a partner with oli where we both have shots do I not just have him and me both shoot people.
In what world do I not just shoot you. Instead of him.
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I had reasoning to shoot dz that I will not be disclosing.
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Nvm I'll disclose it he was just one of the least active people and I wanted to end day. Deciding between mm/Martin though if ceko is actually village is gonna be hard. I think I have a good? Reason to clear....Martin. but not MM. Mm has his shot though, which is the hard thing. If it is actually cm then lol what
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Mm should kill whoever we vote him to kill, then we go f4 and f3 normally with voting. If mm is village then potentially saving in a 1v1 scenario but if it isn't positive that he's village it's not.
If we think he's village then the other option is to simply kill everyone else. If mm is village then we simply lynch until it's 1v1 and mm shoots them.
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Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
he was just one of the least active people
ok, i belive u
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ok time to read through the thread but this time drunk
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I think I'm gonna make some popcorn
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
always shoot dz first but as long as MM is town we don't really lose this
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
unless yall kill me in which case chances go up
put me at -1 and I'm shooting martin though.
is this this TMI or what?
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
??????AEFAWE?F?WF??
MY MIZERY/ZEUS TEAM IS CORRECT
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
dont think i forgot u shot zeus RIGHT AFTER i called u and zeus a team. and that u were basically panickin before.
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the only thing good about ur eod was shooting zeus, and the towncred that gave u wont last forever
voting me makes me think ur confident that mm is town, unless ur RLY just reaction-testing in day SIX
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
is this this TMI or what?
dont think i forgot u shot zeus RIGHT AFTER i called u and zeus a team. and that u were basically panickin before.
I don't think you understand paniking
and also lol first of all i didn't even see that post from you and then also believing that you have any thread pull that would warrant someone feeling pressure from some offhand take of yours is funny. possibly towny.
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
Way I see it
chop Mizery today
presuming mafia flip
chop one of DrZ/Ceko
Probably Ceko if we just occam's razor; I think DrZ could've acted-out what he did as mafia but I think in order to do so it needed skill and skill therefore implies unlikelihood
If Miz is a town flip then I probably want to re-evaluate everyone except Channel
this is one of the posts that screams agenda to me imo. Ignoring MM though doesn't make sense in this scenario
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
I don't think its MM.
Oli + MM world means mafia had 2 shots
all they had to do was shoot you and channel miner consecutively (presumably towns who did have shots)
and then they would mech win because town would be down 2 people to 3 mafia, and furthermore have no shots
I know both of these players can coordinate and so I doubt they would miss that fact --- especially after I pointed out to MM
this post comes right after saying he thinks I'm a wolf. With a shot.
He thinks I'm a wolf? but also thinks MM isn't simply because MM has a shot?
but then he realizes what he said and goes back in the next post
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
well actually come to think of it why didn't the mafia shoot if you were mafia as well
hmmmmmmmm
And then follows a bunch of posts talking about the different scenario possiblities....who could be a wolf and whatnot....and....he ends up back at what?
Mizery/Ceko
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
So with all of that scenario thinking (and the mech that mafia could've had an instant win) out of the way....
-vote Mizery
Lights, camera, ACTION!
Let's see who gets shot today. Whoever you shoot may decide you or (if mafia) your teammates fate, whoever they may be. My current theory is Mizery + Ceko as stated before.
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
I don't think you understand paniking
and also lol first of all i didn't even see that post from you and then also believing that you have any thread pull that would warrant someone feeling pressure from some offhand take of yours is funny. possibly towny.
u said u were gonna do like five diff things, that is 100% "paniking" to me
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MRRRR
-vote MartinGG99
yeah.
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
u said u were gonna do like five diff things, that is 100% "paniking" to me
i said i was going to shoot martin like 5 times
because people kept asking me who I was going to shoot, and I wanted to let them know that if i was about to die I was going to take Martin with me. Then things happened, and I wanted to end the day, and so I made a safer shot.
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Originally Posted by
oliverz144
SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT!
GUNFIGHT!
GUUNFIGHT!
GUUUNFIGHT!
This is one post I have been trying to read into and I don't think that I'll ever get anywhere with it.
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Originally Posted by
DoctorZeus
I cant quite but Oberon that case on Martin is whack.
Town always does & should go in to analysis of what the optimal play is
It's the point of mech
I dont even know what Martins point is, I just know your line is whack
this is just another post that I was looking at before I shot Dz now that I think about it that made me wolfread him more but also means i was preflipping martin.
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Originally Posted by
oliverz144
MARTIN leaves?! and announces it?
time for lags basic tells of scum?
(we know it worked last time on sb16)
more oliver posting.
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It is though
it's like
both oli and Dz were very strong/vocal supporters of killing Ceko.
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whether ceko is a wolf depends on how comfortable oli and dz felt in thread imo
neither were really getting pressure that much, but neither of them had that strong of ...not hold. neither of them were very present or influential at any point imo
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So even though they were strong pushers of ceko, they definitely could have assumed that teammate!ceko was going to die, and they wanted to be the ones to spearhead that to gain better footing in thread or whatnot.
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
I'm glad we're in either of those words:
- I'm not dumb and Martin really prepared some word salad for us to eat
- We're both dumb :D
In all seriousness, though, what do you think he's trying to achieve?
MM kinda reminds me sometimes of a different player I know
this isn't related to anything but it's the use of the emojis and whatnot
it's the phrasing and the prodding but like, in a friendly pockety way
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Originally Posted by
DoctorZeus
Martin is over explaining
But in a natural way
He clearly wants us to believe what he's saying and keep us up
Idgi tbh
like this
like how is martin not partnered here
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Nobody cared about Oli existing, they were all just ignoring him. Ceko brough attention to him?
In the last game, ceko townread me, scumread me when i got some pressure i believe? and then moved back to townreading me.
but what's the difference here when any of them could be shot by anyone at a moment's notice?
Which is why i'm still hesitant on MM. I feel like I should be looking for someone who is trying to control the shots, which MM falls into. Everything else just simply points to Martin though.
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Hmmm. Okay. That is not terribly explanatory, but okay. I think Brad/Martin is TvS. I just don't know which one is which.
@Marshmallow Marshall
do you still believe this ? if not, where did it go?
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im just gonna say my thoughts on everyone rn, bc MARTIN can wAKE uup like a zombie and hammer me
UR the only person that shot mafia but u sound EXTREMELY scummy. u sound as confused as u did last game.
i was gona post a wall on u yesterday until u shot zeus, it was this junk
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
oli is town though lmfao
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
how u came to that conclusion i will never, know
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
oli is obvtowning rn
no explanation, just weird reading of oliver. u either interact strangely w ur teammates or not at all
u voted me while saying u will shoot martin. // that is REALLY inconsistent
then u ask mm to shoot zeus first so u can stay alive // that's even MORE inconsistent!!
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
this @ceko
exactly what he said: and what i said before
This
If I was a wolf I woulda shot, then oli woulda shot, then we win. MM and the other guy who had shots left before oli died woulda been the ones we shot so
i do not understand, but ur SCUM so it doesnt matter
this is NOT a guarantee. u and oli r still a possible scum pairing. if either of u shot mm or channel, the town with a shot left couldve shot you or oli!!!
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
feeling emotions when you read posts isn't an oog thing?? lol, it's like a vibe read.
i didnt say it was an oog thing.
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
(this post was like right after)
nice nice. great frickin job lol
u completely avoided my slot, in fact u avoided EVERYONE's slot until now
u are a flailing mafia who wants to get rid of martin, hoping that mm will lynch me over you or zeus!!!
-vote Mizery
mm hasnt pushed ANY0NE this game and his reads have been rly inconsistent. he's still holding onto his gun and didnt even consider that he shud shoot to prove he is town?? forcing discussion around his slot tomorrow and the day after is anti-town and could cost us the game. if he is scum then that proves my theory that all the scum have been avoiding my slot, although mm DID share some of my thoughts, not the exact ones but some about mizery.
martin's dayshot on brad is still RLY bad, bc brad showed no signs of actully shooting martin. brad hasnt talked directly to martin ONCE, check his iso. then zeus flies in and KILLS 0BERON. wow, how much interaction is between mart/ZEUS?? 0!! mart just says "maybe i shuda pushed zeus stronger" then continues to not push anyone
chanel is not 100% clear-happy town, he's strong at scum in the mod and couldve been told to shoot oli. he also trolls , pretends to be a town,armorsimith when he is evil,neutral auditor, however i rly dont see how his shot cud've helped maf but he is prob just a troll ?????
MARTIN is the one who shud be SHOT today, then mm/mizery need to die if we r still playing.
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Originally Posted by
Mizery
this is one of the posts that screams agenda to me imo. Ignoring MM though doesn't make sense in this scenario
bruh
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i thought u shot zeus (yes it rly IS a safe shot for you, wow another slip) bc u knew if u shot martin u'd get turbolynched the next day
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wh0 are these guests watching, L0L
martin shud be the SH00T, quit voting ppl
mm HAS to shoot martin, i am, not gona deal w some dude that has a loaded gun in 3v1
i rly hope mm agre,es so i dont have to talk more about martin, like i get mizry sounds bad but martin, his firsts posts today were so BAD he immediately starts with "mizery/ceko scum world,' and YEA like mizry said completly ignores mm. its like he is tryng to P0CKET him
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damn it i try to be chill but get scumread for it then get mad, but being mad not fun for anyone
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
For d1 reads:
I think Oberon is town, after mulling our earlier actions over. I haven't checked whether DrZ's claim that Oberon has sussed everyone is true, but I think that's typical Oberon based on distant memory. I also think his handling of me accurately resembles how a town acts when they see someone who's doing something that doesn't seem specifically scummy to them but it does seem to not align with what they think is town.
Also MM is probably town as well, especially if this flips red.
I also have a strong semi-gut read that Brad flips red here. If not, then lol me then
-daykill
@BradLand
@
Stealthbomber16
Where's the wolf goal with shooting brad? is it simply the "townie with a shot and enough reason to kill them i won't be questioned" angle?
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
-vote MartinGG99
No. You're more rational than that. You were the one talking about certainty and all earlier. You don't shoot people "for the lols" as town. Ceko? Maaaaybe, even though it sucks. You? Absolutely not. You know what I think? You were afraid I would shoot you (or that you would get quickly lynched) because I said I was beginning to reconsider Ceko, and you didn't want your team to lose a shot.
Hell, we even DISCUSSED the fact we shouldn't shoot people. If Ceko's behavior was highly questionable, yours is just unforgivable lol.
Again, since it needs to be said:
seriously is that first sentence really towny or am i just drunk
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
i thought u shot zeus (yes it rly IS a safe shot for you, wow another slip) bc u knew if u shot martin u'd get turbolynched the next day
if i shot martin i'd feel worse if he was town. DZ was the safer shot who just like 9/10 times would flip wolf.
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
wh0 are these guests watching, L0L
martin shud be the SH00T, quit voting ppl
mm HAS to shoot martin, i am, not gona deal w some dude that has a loaded gun in 3v1
i rly hope mm agre,es so i dont have to talk more about martin, like i get mizry sounds bad but martin, his firsts posts today were so BAD he immediately starts with "mizery/ceko scum world,' and YEA like mizry said completly ignores mm. its like he is tryng to P0CKET him
you really are calling me/mm/martin all wolves? like ???
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Originally Posted by
Oberon
DoctorZeus + MM = scumteam
Get zeus
lol this was his last post before he was shot, exactly 10 minutes later
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Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
so considering this game might go to hell very soon
may as well take a hot guess
mizery
Ceko
1 of oliverz/Drz
leaning oliverz
as mafia team
puts oli and dz in a "one scm here" cat.
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I think I've really just convinced myself that it's just martin.
Kill martin, if not martin then kill MM.
Leaves us at lylo with no guns
other option involves trusting MM unconditionally.
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
the only thing good about ur eod was shooting zeus, and the towncred that gave u wont last forever
voting me makes me think ur confident that mm is town, unless ur RLY just reaction-testing in day SIX
obviously it gave me no towncred because both you and MM want to kill me like, more or something. it's funny.
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ceko you put me at l-1 you know right
just checking
anyways part of me wants to think that MM/ceko has one. But if i think MM/Ceko has one and MM/Martin has one, then that implies I think it's MM
my groupings are always wrong though so like martin? yes.
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
i think mizery/zeusy are the simplest team. using oog stuff like "i felt this emotion" is rly NAI, zeus shot oberon and ill nevr forgive him for that game-wise
in response to martin saying the team was [ceko, me/dz] so like mrr
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Originally Posted by
ChannelMiner
You know it kid.
B)
definitely miz