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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
We’ve got a congressman in the pool for sure because the host can’t justify putting 3 town in a permanent chat.
You’re theoretically still a possible scum in my mind, I guess. Pao is claiming medic so that can fit the bill. But I agree, when you phrase it like that, something is missing. Hrmm. I’m annoyed.
I do not like this kind of setup speculation. Why can't 3 towns be in a permanent chat? They don't know they're all town, so it absolutely can work. It's not like they become masons or something. Power roles are actually not that strong in this setup, so I wouldn't base lynches on speculation of what scum could have as power roles.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
That puts all the PRs that can help scum control the votes under town control. That seems like a weak scum setup, doesn’t it?
You misunderstood : i said 2 congressmen INSTEAD OF 1 + 1 voter. I mean a scum team of 2 congressmen + 1 PR.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
We’ve got a congressman in the pool for sure because the host can’t justify putting 3 town in a permanent chat.
You’re theoretically still a possible scum in my mind, I guess. Pao is claiming medic so that can fit the bill. But I agree, when you phrase it like that, something is missing. Hrmm. I’m annoyed.
This is also why I'm struggling with Popo.
Again I don't really care to lynch a medic claim at this stage. And someone amongst the power has to be scum, I'm sure of it. SA and Gov and Judge, one of them for sure. I'm saying I'm not scum, you're saying you're not scum, and you TR the SA. So the gov?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Since it looks like we're about to lynch Paopan...
@
PQRnHack
and
@
NotPaopan
, please give reads on eachother :)
Do you have any concerns with all of: Judge, Governor, Mayor, and States Attorney being fine with a Paopan chop?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Lag
If all of SB16, Voss, and Renegade are looking to vote Paopan, then this is almost certainly a mis-chop
I'm not fully on board yet with Popo.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Lag
Do you have any concerns with all of: Judge, Governor, Mayor, and States Attorney being fine with a Paopan chop?
Yes, this is my concern.
And why I raised the question to SB.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Lag
If all of SB16, Voss, and Renegade are looking to vote Paopan, then this is almost certainly a mis-chop
Hmm, not that I scumread the people you mentioned, but there is indeed quite a consensus against Paopan. And it's not like he's towny, but "too scummy to be scum" + "no resistance to the lynch" might be strong enough of a towntell.
Also, how comes I'm the only vote on PQ lol? Why does NOONE appear to want to lynch that guy when EoD comes??
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Loldebite
You misunderstood : i said 2 congressmen INSTEAD OF 1 + 1 voter. I mean a scum team of 2 congressmen + 1 PR.
Which congressmen do you think is scum then?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
I do not like this kind of setup speculation. Why can't 3 towns be in a permanent chat? They don't know they're all town, so it absolutely can work. It's not like they become masons or something. Power roles are actually not that strong in this setup, so I wouldn't base lynches on speculation of what scum could have as power roles.
This is also true. In general i dont think one should base a solve on role distribution.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Lag
Do you have any concerns with all of: Judge, Governor, Mayor, and States Attorney being fine with a Paopan chop?
It's not as much about PRs being fine with a Paopan chop as it is about everyone being fine with a Paopan chop. I have yet to see actual defense of him anywhere. It's like the consensus went from "well he kinda sucks..." to "he's probably scum", and I'm beginning to realize I followed this consensus without really thinking about it, just because he honestly has done nothing.
There's also the fact he is - O surprise! - a counterwagon to PQ that annihilated the PQ wagon. On D1 too, PQ was suspected but was magically let off the hook at EoD and both Frinckles and you replaced him, basically (although you had already been a bit in the hot seat yesterday, your train magically gained actual traction near EoD). I'm beginning to see a trend here.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
It looks like 2 congressman + medic. That seems realistic and viable.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
@Renegade
Ignore me one more more time, ONE MORE GODDAM TIME, i dare ya, i double dare ya moth********.
Seriously tho, why are you refusing to commit any reads at all ? Enough's enough, give us a read list or i'm voting you.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Loldebite
@
Renegade
Ignore me one more more time, ONE MORE GODDAM TIME, i dare ya, i double dare ya moth********.
Seriously tho, why are you refusing to commit any reads at all ? Enough's enough, give us a read list or i'm voting you.
Because this is how I play.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
@
NotPaopan
So to be clear your reasons on voting Voss are
1 Because he’s scum
2 Because he’s scum
3 Trust me guys
Based on that logic I will tell you that the earth is flat for the following reasons
1 Because it’s flat
2 Because it’s flat
3 Trust me guys
The Bible is the word of God because it says so.
I also am the word of God.
~~
He actually did pretty much the same thing in Once Upon a Town, btw, except he was more active and had two votes because he was mayor... He was town, too.
~~
This kind of comment from Stealth is genuine town Stealth, btw. I guess this also is a "trust me guys" if you don't know him, but I say it anyway because it's a quite significant base for my townread on him.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
It's not as much about PRs being fine with a Paopan chop as it is about everyone being fine with a Paopan chop. I have yet to see actual defense of him anywhere. It's like the consensus went from "well he kinda sucks..." to "he's probably scum", and I'm beginning to realize I followed this consensus without really thinking about it, just because he honestly has done nothing.
There's also the fact he is - O surprise! - a counterwagon to PQ that annihilated the PQ wagon. On D1 too, PQ was suspected but was magically let off the hook at EoD and both Frinckles and you replaced him, basically (although you had already been a bit in the hot seat yesterday, your train magically gained actual traction near EoD). I'm beginning to see a trend here.
.....thinking........
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
Because this is how I play.
You are not exactly clear, Renegade, and I think you could well be scum (it's not like there is much reason to think otherwise), so I would kindly advise you to give us your reads :) you kinda went under the radar this game, and I might be partially at fault for letting PQ drag me into a spamfest here, so the least you can do is to provide your reads.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
What the fuck
This is such a bad call lol. None of this is highly solving or highly informative, and chances are many are town in there. Lag and Gikkle are townreads of mine, and Loldebite is a bit of a question mark to me. Shouldn't we be lynching among the scummy ones that give info when lynched in addition to being likely red flips, which means PQ (given how much he has been a debate topic) or Paopan (for similar reasons + because I doubt he will ever be actually towny, so bringing this to LYLO is a bad idea)?
Did u even understand my argumentation?
The claims arent adding up.
Somebody is lying
Only scum would lie
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Loldebite
What balancing ? Why would only one be more balanced ? It changes absolutely nothing outside WIFOM. Congressman is glorified voter and would have been literal voter had you followed voss' advice.
I have a really hard time believing the "oh host would balance like this because else..." arguments because the FACT THAT YOU THINK THAT IS AN INCENTIVE.
Let me rephrase that :
Thinking scum cannot be medic because his role would be useless makes medic more valuable to scum.
In a similar manner, having 2 congressmen instead of 1 gives the second a kind of cover.
Huh?
I paid for the whole congressmanrole, im using the whole congressmam role
But yeah the things u r saying is meta-wifom w/ the host and thus unknown land
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
I'd vote Lag, but for some reason host decided to disable multi vote.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
Because this is how I play.
@Marshmallow Marshall
@Lag
@Gikkle
@PQRnHack
@Voss
@Stealthbomber16
Is this actually true ? I'd like at least 3 of you confirming to avoid being rekt like MM did me last game.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
Because this is how I play.
This is also how you played as wolf in the Murder in the Mid-Atlantic game?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
I've gone back and forth on my mind with PHack. I would be fine lynching him today.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
I basically pointed out that all power roles on popo means they are a mislynch. So what are the other options? Take a shot in the power roles? Phack is a congressman, also a decent option.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
I still believe the SA is scum and I'm kind of mystified as to why everyone townreads Voss.
Again, FMPOV, there's at least 1 scum in the Gov, SA, and Judge. So one of MM, Voss, and Stealth is scum, and Voss seems the scummiest of that bunch.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Guys
Are you blind
There is a scum in lag, gikkle, loldebite
There has to be one
No town cmen would ever fake claim voter
And there is 1 cmen less than needed
And 1 voter more than real
There is a scum cmen in the voters claim
No town cmen would claim voter
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Lag gikkle or lolde
This is my mechanical logical rational cleared POE
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Lag gikkle or lolde
This is my mechanical logical rational cleared POE
vote lag please.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Lag
Not me.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Ok
@Loldebite
@Gikkle
@Lag
Where do you live??
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
I am fine with chopping Pao or Voss right now. But the fact that every power role seems happy to chop Pao means something isn't right.
-vote Voss
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Has the third congressperson said anything?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Guys
Are you blind
There is a scum in lag, gikkle, loldebite
There has to be one
No town cmen would ever fake claim voter
And there is 1 cmen less than needed
And 1 voter more than real
There is a scum cmen in the voters claim
No town cmen would claim voter
I could see Loldebite doing it, since I don't have a firm grasp on his meta yet. Maybe even Lag, simply because she likes to do weird stuff, although I find it less likely since she usually does it for a reason. What does scum gain from lying as congressman, though? Going from a pool of (potential) 1/3 to another? There's not even a guarantee there IS scum in the congressmen.
Solving off this doesn't help much, imo. Actual analysis is much better.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Lag
Has the third congressperson said anything?
Where
Do
You
Live
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Gikkle
I could see Loldebite doing it, since I don't have a firm grasp on his meta yet. Maybe even Lag, simply because she likes to do weird stuff, although I find it less likely since she usually does it for a reason. What does scum gain from lying as congressman, though? Going from a pool of (potential) 1/3 to another? There's not even a guarantee there IS scum in the congressmen.
Solving off this doesn't help much, imo. Actual analysis is much better.
Where
Do
You
Live
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gikkle
I could see Loldebite doing it, since I don't have a firm grasp on his meta yet. Maybe even Lag, simply because she likes to do weird stuff, although I find it less likely since she usually does it for a reason. What does scum gain from lying as congressman, though? Going from a pool of (potential) 1/3 to another? There's not even a guarantee there IS scum in the congressmen.
Solving off this doesn't help much, imo. Actual analysis is much better.
Agree with this, congressperson hiding their role is potentially just something weird, it was much more concerning when I thought it was states attorney since that signals wolfy intent to misuse the power and frame people.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Voss was my original choice for today's lynch and I'm still fine with it, so I'll probably vote there
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Where
Do
You
Live
None of your business, pal.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Lag
Agree with this, congressperson hiding their role is potentially just something weird, it was much more concerning when I thought it was states attorney since that signals wolfy intent to misuse the power and frame people.
Now answer my question
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Where
Do
You
Live
this is irrelevant. I propose oliverz as a policy lynch, because i, too, doubt paopan is scum.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Gikkle
None of your business, pal.
It is
I can solve the game
I need to understand time
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
oliverz144
Now answer my question
No, lol, why are you asking people where they live?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loldebite
this is irrelevant. I propose oliverz as a policy lynch, because i, too, doubt paopan is scum.
I need to understand time aaaAaaAAAAaa
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
-vote oliverz144
Might as well commit since i removed my vote from PQR. I still want his ass tho.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loldebite
I only remember playing with scum Renegade, and I don't even remember that game very well.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loldebite
-vote oliverz144
Might as well commit since i removed my vote from PQR. I still want his ass tho.
Ppl were hacking pcs for the win
This is flowers
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
I’m furious that we’re not lynching paopan today
-vote PQRnHack
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loldebite
There is a reason why I scumread renegade literally every single game.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Lag
I am fine with chopping Pao or Voss right now. But the fact that every power role seems happy to chop Pao means something isn't right.
-vote Voss
Are all 3 of us scum?
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
I’m furious that we’re not lynching paopan today
-vote PQRnHack
Weird comment coming from someone that never commented on why it's alarming when literally every single power role is down to chop the same slot.
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Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II
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Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
Are all 3 of us scum?
That fact is irrelevant since town can be wrong, but wolves know who their teammates are. If all 3 of you are scum then I'll have some choice words for Martin after this game, but all 3 of you certainly aren't town.