I don’t think Helz was killed because of that but rather just because they were simply a good player.
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I don’t think Helz was killed because of that but rather just because they were simply a good player.
Varcron didn’t vote at all and Samson’s vote is unsettling here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AIVION
Technically if we look at the VC, Martin looks better but it ain’t entirely difficult to bus, especially a practical Mafia Goon.
Honestly DM feels like me when I get hard pushed without a solid defense, and that makes me want to put him as townQuote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
But on the same token he is not me, and I haven't played with him enough to say if it's scummy or not.
Didn't participate D1 to justify throwing a vote in, nor did I get an in depth enough read on people to justify it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Did you have any kind of readslist or some kind of reads during D1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Varcron
Who do you think you would have ended up voting D1 if you had more time?
OK then META aside, what do you think of my posts thus far?Quote:
Originally Posted by Varcron
Do YOU think it was wolfy?
Like a “panic” or “strategic agenda” like MM/Nic or do you have a different take on why you believe me to be wolfy?
Like I’m going to need more from you then a 50/50 take.
“DM does what I do when I’m TOWN but LOL I don’t know his meta so he COULD be a WOLF”.
Let me know when you've all finished with DM and finally town read them.
Then we can shake up Samson and if it turns up a town end we can go for the people who push DM.
To be frank, after all I could gather so far I'd say that Bahkieh seems town enough, a bit lost but not scum and SJ seems towny enough so far. DM is 50/50 to me so all in all I still don't have a problem with the Samson train as I said earlier. That said, I don't know how much more you wanna shake up Samson. If with "shake up" you mean lynch then we can go for the lynch right now but we have like what, 2 weeks left in the day? I'm not too sure on the lynch mechanics so if it ends the day at L-0 then shouldn't we still wait a while?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperJack
It’s better to get as much discussion time as possible before a yeet.
Shake up via they contribute or get lynched.
In my opinion your scumreads haven't been explained well enough for me to consider going super hyper turbo aggressive with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Your posts have been a bit disjointed in terms of who you scumread aswell with a fair bit of OMGUS being put on me as soon as I unvoted Samson once he hit L1. To be completely honest with you DM, You're neutral/tiny itty bitty town lean from me, but not to where I'd be comfortable with your slot.
Honestly my opinion of SJ gets worse and worse with every post, this looks like a clear attempt to buddy and turn it on ~3 people who at one point or another voted/pressured DM. Explain why we should turbo Samson and then go for the two people voting DM? Sounds like you found an easy way to get 3 townies out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superjack
To expand on this post since I was distracted after seeing SJ's post after you:Quote:
Originally Posted by Varcron
I like some of your ideas, both of us agreed in terms of reads for a time; however the explanation is lacking and it makes it seem like as soon as there is a train you consider to be an easy lynch you go for it.
Is this townie behavior? No, but if you were to provide something else it would change my perspective of you a fair bit.
That's a point against yourself: you post a lot more than him, and yet you give about as much content as he does... this is your first post with at least some explainations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Can you elaborate about how his stance was scummy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
And note that you "fail-voted" the flipped scum last EoD, which isn't exactly towny either, so again, it's not a reason to vote Samson over you unless there's something really damning I missed.
This applies even more to you, given how your train encounters more resistance than his. It's actually part of why I'm pushing you atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Samson (3 [L-2]):Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Dark Magician, SuperJack, Bahkieh
...
This is very poor; if you have stuff to "go on" with, please do go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
You do realize that "Samson's vote" was actually Paul's vote that remained because the account is the same, right? Samson himself never actually voted. While that it normally bad, since he's inactive, it kinda fits. I don't see the scumminess here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Why is DM town to you? If DM flips town, this is potentially TMI. I'm not sold on him being scum, btw, I just have yet to see an valid point for him being town.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperJack
SJ had no full intent in it as I’m aware, same with Varcron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Not sure about Bah.
You say I reveal more due to “Resistance”?
You realize that the 2 people that are defending me here are like as Townie as you are right?
Like you guys together are Top 3 Townie.
I’ll be honest here, if Helz is correct on SJ/MM containing scum theory.
I’d be willing to bet it’s you here due to your push on me here.
I feel like your push is lacking. Like your pushing for the sake of it?
Like you know how I play so what exactly do you expect to get out of me?
I answered your questions, so if you want to just do a straight on tunnel here on me then so be it.
Sorry, but I don’t think you are genuine here.
If you are so concern on the other two top town defending me, why don’t you just ask them why instead of pointlessly going no where here because you know as well as I do that this isn’t getting anywhere.
Although I’d like more from Bah as I’d like his perspective on things.
Due to the game state RN.
The only slots I’m absolutely confident are Town are Mag and SJ.
As for MM while I believe they are town, I also believe they are the type of scum to bus (same with Martin)
And Yes SJ went up in my reads and MM went down.
Due to paranoia and lack of clear thinking from MM.
Ok but like, I see scum fitting themselves in a side wagon and they fit regardless if their previous slot owner did it or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
This isn’t TMI at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
You and Varcron putting unnecessary shade on SJ. Not sure I quite understand.
Like your playing very “Pushy” heavy here RN.
Could be Scum Pushing Agenda for ML’s, could be Town rustling in the wrong places.
Also MM I notice your only focusing on Me and SJ.
What’s your opinion regarding Varcron and Martin’s slots.
Tunneling only hurts town.
Focus on everything as a whole.
Might have might vote and intend to keep my vote on Samson, but I’m still focusing my attention on everything that I feel a need to respond to.
I’m aware that due to my Playstyle people like to pick and poke at things of what I say.
Playstyle is NAI.
Fuck Off for those that think otherwise, it drives me crazy.
Although I don’t think that’s anyone’s main reason on SRing me, it’s one that shouldn’t co-exist because like if you played in like 100 FM Games before you’ll know “Bad Posts” are NAI, yet peeps go “lol wolf yeet”.
So yeah IDGAF how I say shit and IDGAF if you think it’s wolfy.
IDGAF if you call it wolfy and vote me for a shit reason like that.
But I’m sure you’ll care when you realize how wrong you are in that scenario.
Regardless though I don’t see anyone doing that at least RN, but if anyone try’s to, please read this rant of mine above. :D
DM's content has much improved today, in addition to my argument that scum yzb doesn't push the vote onto his ally. I'd once again like to reiterate that yeeting DM is foolish.
grammatically that doesn't make sense, but whatever.
People be dissing me sayin i ain't town. Lol. Fools!
I'm putting Samson at L-1 at EoD and will not scum read anyone who hammers. If we lose the game because people want to role play instead of play mafia, go play DnD.
Or go outside your house and put on a theatre show!Quote:
Originally Posted by S-FM Magoroth
I don't have the attention span to look back in the past 25 pages of content and pick a particular post for a reason why I think someone is town. I know you can look at that individuals posts but icba. Maybe I will feel more in the mood to read into it all later. When does day end? like 2 weeks?
Yeh 2 weeks you got time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahkieh
Not really unnecessary shade on SJQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
He has still yet to answer why he voted Samson up to L1, he conveniently ignored it.
I don't really see anyone who has roleplayed in the past ~200 posts, but you do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by S-FM Magoroth
He was doing some weird riddle shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varcron
-vote Samson
Lol. I answered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varcron
MM where you at?
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Originally Posted by Dark Magician
= )Quote:
Intent behind the Setup
The intent behind this setup is not to paralyze the site for months with a super long game that will be the only one hosted. It rather is to try a new game style, and to have a game running in the background while forum life continues. Players are expected to participate reasonably; the definition of "reasonably" is greatly affected by the phases' lenght. Not posting for a full real life day is perfectly acceptable if you're more busy that one day, but you're expected to be active at some other points in the game day. This game is perfect for those who would like to play FM, but who cannot dedicate enough time each real life day to a game.
I like the intent I see behind this post; while it does have some OMGUSsy dimension, it at least is picking a clear stance and trying to lead somewhere (why those defending you are defending you). That doesn't make you town, but you're still gaining a few townpoints.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
That being said, your appeal to meta is bullshit. First, because you're saying "you know I play suboptimally, so what do you expect?", which is inherently terrible because it's intentionally suboptimal and anti-town; note that "intentionally anti-town" is pretty much the definition of "scummy". Second, because you have showed you were capable of legitimately good play. I have your first game here as Caustic in mind, where you were able to give actual reads with reasonings. We're pretty far from this right now; your best reasonings and explainations yet were obtained through my rather hard push.
So, while I do think the post is somewhat towny because of the intent I see behind its ending, the OMGUSsy part is bad.
And @SuperJack , I still want a reply to this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Asking questions is not throwing shade. If SJ doesn't answer, the shade that appears on him is his fault. For the record, I don't have a stable read on SJ atm, because I'm waiting on his reply about you (since you happen to be the main topic these days).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Look I think your in the wrong direction here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Also I asked this before so you must have missed this just like SJ missed your question. (Unless he didn’t in which I wasn’t really paying attention)
What’s your current stance on Martin and Varcron?
Also MM if your so concerned about people’s reads on me why are you ignoring Mag’s reads?
Like you haven’t really bothered to try interacting with Mag at all here.
I mean, yeah they are kinda ObvTown but like they are a person playing, they can help and benefit here.
So not interacting with anyone (such as like Mag one of my two defenders) and just constantly targeting me is like Anti-Town.
Like it’s not just about pushing people.
Technically people SHOULD be engaging in conversation with the Obvious town.
But it’s not just that, that is bugging me here.
You haven’t really spoken with Varcron much and Martin who you were originally talking about at the beginning of the day with SJ seemed to have slipped your mind.
I said it before and I’ll say it again.
Between you and SJ, your the Mafia.
If you make it to F3, your mafia.
Other then that, allot more people have a chance to be then you.
If however Samson flips Scum I have concluded that it actually clears Bah and what I did mention before and still stand by is that it looks worse for Varcron.
Also, maybe I didn’t make this clear before.
It’s not your META it’s your Playstyle.
I expect you to do this as either alignment. It’s NAI.
Your the type of player to go deep into a tunnel/push and pay less attention to other things around you.
However, this is why I ask to be open with everyone.
So if you have a concern with me you can talk to everyone about it instead of directing everything to gain what? An alignment tell? Yeah, pressure alone can’t spew someone scum/town.
Again, try new method.
Directing everything to me*
I townread Varcron. I already explained that on D1 when he reacted to Helz saying Mag was "cleared" for not being aware that Wisp had claimed God & smitten Greyswandir. He has been scum hunting since then, and I haven't seen any red flags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Martin is a weak townread; his recent walls, while they were not stunningly insightful, seemed to be an honest attempt at scumhunting. This read could decay easily.
I'm not tunneling, though. You just happen to be an interesting source of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
This sentence makes no logical sense xD
Why do you seem convinced SJ is town, though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
And I didn't miss your question, I just went off for a bit before you posted again lol