S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

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Originally Posted by Ganelon

I will see what I can do about it. If I change names without informing players who aren’t here, they may be confused as to why they are suddenly unable to access their accounts.

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Just use the nicknames, unless someone has a problem with it? Word association would help solve this problem quickly and efficiently.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

no, we do not. Towns job is not to verify sheriff claims on day 1. that is mafias job. im not lynching a day 1 sheriff claim who threw a fit over not getting their way. thats not a powerful strategy, thats not a scum strategy, thats an egotistical town strategy.

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Once again you're change my question. I never said that the claim to Sheriff needed to be check. Just their claim to Town. The could of claimed nothing, or netural. Yet they picked a town role spesifically.
At no point have I stated that S-FM Lois should be lynched today. Their slot will need assessing with the new Driver.
After a Mafia rage-quitted in a previous game, the Town gave that slot a free-pass. Which nearly cost them the game. And the game before, a player claimed the TPR slot and cost the town the game.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

Just use the nicknames, unless someone has a problem with it? Word association would help solve this problem quickly and efficiently.

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it would require us all having new logins. I mean the best thing would be to just remove the S-FM from each name.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

Once again you're change my question. I never said that the claim to Sheriff needed to be check. Just their claim to Town. The could of claimed nothing, or netural. Yet they picked a town role spesifically.
At no point have I stated that S-FM Lois should be lynched today. Their slot will need assessing with the new Driver.
After a Mafia rage-quitted in a previous game, the Town gave that slot a free-pass. Which nearly cost them the game. And the game before, a player claimed the TPR slot and cost the town the game.

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omg u gotta be kidding me. ok, lets do this again.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

I believe I commented on why I voted [And then unvoted after they ragequit and claimed sheriff.] It's a shame that they quit without giving a read list or reply to me. Problem is now decided wether the claim is true or false.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

omg u gotta be kidding me. ok, lets do this again.

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you are trying to rephrase ur statement by blaming me for addressing it accurately saying im changing it. I will continue to requote ur own wording at you, however it may come with my vote as well.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

it would require us all having new logins. I mean the best thing would be to just remove the S-FM from each name.

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ahh, okay. Well, I can't change the neural pathways I've built on you guys, so please forgive me but i'm using your nicknames from this point onward- unless you strongly disagree in which case I will prob compromise.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

Once again you're change my question. I never said that the claim to Sheriff needed to be check. Just their claim to Town. The could of claimed nothing, or netural. Yet they picked a town role spesifically.
At no point have I stated that S-FM Lois should be lynched today. Their slot will need assessing with the new Driver.
After a Mafia rage-quitted in a previous game, the Town gave that slot a free-pass. Which nearly cost them the game. And the game before, a player claimed the TPR slot and cost the town the game.

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now for the rest of your post (highlighted above), i DO agree with. However I do not agree with doing it on D1.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

omg u gotta be kidding me. ok, lets do this again.

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Yet you still answer my question as I intended it too. So I do not get where you are coming from.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

now for the rest of your post (highlighted above), i DO agree with. However I do not agree with doing it on D1.

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I never said it has to be done today. That we have no argument with.

@S-FM Jan Korvin
You are playing with a tone of Honestly and sincerity.
If you had to name 3 mafia right now. Which people would you name at top of your head and why?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

Yet you still answer my question as I intended it too. So I do not get where you are coming from.

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You make 0 sense rofl - your now saying i answered it as intended when you have been constantly posting that i am changing your question and not answering it.

here is my original answer, and it still stands true.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

That's not towns problem, that's Mafias problem.

The real question is was Lois powerwolfing? or were they pissed off town. if they roleclaimed and quit i would easily write that off to pissed off town. no scum would be that emotional tunneling on D1 against a player. That's not powerful style play nor opportunitistic.

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Here is your response to that. lol
if i answered it as intended why all the BS?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

Thats what I was getting at. Why do you attack and change the meaning of my question? And then change it back so you can answer it yourself?

The player has a very humongous ego. If it is the person I'm thinking of then their rage quit gives no indication on their alignment. And it's their Ego and stance on personal attacks that made them quit just so they can set an example to this site.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

Once again you're change my question. I never said that the claim to Sheriff needed to be check. Just their claim to Town. The could of claimed nothing, or netural. Yet they picked a town role spesifically.
At no point have I stated that S-FM Lois should be lynched today. Their slot will need assessing with the new Driver.
After a Mafia rage-quitted in a previous game, the Town gave that slot a free-pass. Which nearly cost them the game. And the game before, a player claimed the TPR slot and cost the town the game.

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Is this just a failed attempt at scumpainting?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

I never said it has to be done today. That we have no argument with.

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You said Now hence why i posted my response.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

You said Now hence why i posted my response.

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and due to the fact this person is also the top voted person, the next steps with them would be to unvote and deal with it later. not figuring out if they are a sheriff or not.

I have added a timer to the start of the thread. When that timer hits 0, day 1 ends.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

@S-FM Jan Korvin
You are playing with a tone of Honestly and sincerity.
If you had to name 3 mafia right now. Which people would you name at top of your head and why?

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I get that a lot, and in this circumstance I credit the fact that its easy to be sincere when you're telling the truth, lol. I just don't know. I would have pegged Mr. Cage as Scum, but he cried sheriff before leaving, so that is left unresolved. Iron Giant also appears scummy to me, people good with data analysis are really good at manipulating data to suit their needs. We have missing posters and subs, so my brain fixates on the possibility that they are mafia and not talking for one reason or another- which would mean my scum reads would be flawed for lack of a proper stats population. They need to talk, and we need a night action. Grey worm I read as neutral, but I can't explain why, and Fat Worm once again has claimed citz, but I could flop him as neutral trying to hide as a citz.

Hello everyone, Please forgive me. I misunderstood the start date thought it was next Tuesday Start. I will take the time to read the posts before this one.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Hello everyone, Please forgive me. I misunderstood the start date thought it was next Tuesday Start. I will take the time to read the posts before this one.

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Oh God Fred. FRED. If you don't pick Fred Flintstone as your avatar you'll disappoint me- for like 15 min then I'll get over it. Dude we've had more pages and posts in one day then I had in the entirety of my last, and first, FM game. So please skim, or take ritalin/engergy drinks if you want to overachieve- its a lot of nutin with little bits of something here and there (to me anyways)

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Originally Posted by S-FM Marlwyn Janson

Anyway, I'm going with Plurality w/ Majority. See you guys tomorrow.

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This feels Scummy to me. Also with the first to post may be hiding something. Don't make you voteable yet but Have more reading to do.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Marlwyn Janson

Hey Mayor can technically reveal D1 without worrying about dying

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Why Pr hunt?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

Not surprising to see that there is the typical amount of troll-posting by those who can't be bothered devoting brain-power to useful endeavors and those who would rather fill our screen with useless posts.

We should be focusing our mental energies on the one game-play mechanic we currently have the ability to alter, which is [/COLOR]lynching.



I really don't see the practicality of Condorcet and think it will only may the process more confusing because inevitably many will not submit votes and others will be careless in their ranking. I vote to veto Condorcet.
Majority is ok but we have better options.
Plurality is clearly the most advantageous lynch type for Town. We don't risk hammering prematurely, we can still press our advantage of numbers. Remember lynching is our primary weapon and so we only hinder ourselves by requiring there to be a majority although most of the time Plurality and Majority should result in the same outcome.

I vote for PLURALITY

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I like this post seems townie

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

I like this post seems townie

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If Plurality benefits town more, and this is true, I can't not side with plurality. I liked it better anyways, since we're using the whole "Navy" theme and we don't have a captain.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Marlwyn Janson

Call me scum one more time and I'll put you in a KFC bucket, bird.

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I have been reading you scummy but this post has confidence. moving you from scummy read to null.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

Oh God Fred. FRED. If you don't pick Fred Flintstone as your avatar you'll disappoint me- for like 15 min then I'll get over it. Dude we've had more pages and posts in one day then I had in the entirety of my last, and first, FM game. So please skim, or take ritalin/engergy drinks if you want to overachieve- its a lot of nutin with little bits of something here and there (to me anyways)

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ill be honest, im not even going to backread it. from what it sounds it was just a shitfest. ill spend today looking for town. You can townhunt at any point of the game. Scumhunting is where you need more context.

as for voting - plurality + majority 100% I cant stand when games go to no-lynches due to inactives not making EoD.

Walks in With Spit shined Boots "OK Men We need to find theses Scum bucket Cowards that caused that explosion in the life support"

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Walks in With Spit shined Boots "OK Men We need to find theses Scum bucket Cowards that caused that explosion in the life support"

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Fred, wanna choose an profile pic?

What are your reads?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

Fred, wanna choose an profile pic?

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What are your reads?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

What are your reads?

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That pic doesn't help, but I can remember Fred. If you were looking for my reads I posted what I "read," but its not very useful- to me anyways.

-FM Jiles Carballo (4 [L-4]):
S-FM Lois Francklyn, S-FM Marlwyn Janson, S-FM Gollert Twissell, S-FM Marck Wilbird

S-FM Magellan Core (1 [L-7]):
S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Lois Francklyn (3 [L-5]):
S-FM Billigan Holbird, S-FM Jiles Carballo, S-FM Bart Pilfter

S-FM Jan Korvin (1 [L-7]):
S-FM Lembird Oshay

The votes here are they real or Troll. I would love to hear why people are voting each person. Remember Scum love to act like sheep town. Day 1 lynch remember is always good to help with reads. Even if it is a VT. only bad if we lynch a PR. Great if we hit a Mafia or 3rd Party. (prefer mafia ). And If you have any PR read Keep it to your self, Do not help Mafia. Yes This post can be read as Fluff, I am posting it in case we have any new players and they don't sheep a mafia because they are town. I would love to hear everyone's read JUST PLEASE DO NOT CALL AND ONE PR in your reads. (If you read some one PR just call them town). This is to Town VT's Post thinking you are a PR makes don't claim it just post thinking you are it makes it harder for mafia to find the real PR's. Remember you may not want to die but it is better We die than a PR.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

That pic doesn't help, but I can remember Fred. If you were looking for my reads I posted what I "read," but its not very useful- to me anyways.

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can you repost them

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

-FM Jiles Carballo (4 [L-4]):
S-FM Lois Francklyn, S-FM Marlwyn Janson, S-FM Gollert Twissell, S-FM Marck Wilbird

S-FM Magellan Core (1 [L-7]):
S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Lois Francklyn (3 [L-5]):
S-FM Billigan Holbird, S-FM Jiles Carballo, S-FM Bart Pilfter

S-FM Jan Korvin (1 [L-7]):
S-FM Lembird Oshay

The votes here are they real or Troll. I would love to hear why people are voting each person. Remember Scum love to act like sheep town. Day 1 lynch remember is always good to help with reads. Even if it is a VT. only bad if we lynch a PR. Great if we hit a Mafia or 3rd Party. (prefer mafia ). And If you have any PR read Keep it to your self, Do not help Mafia. Yes This post can be read as Fluff, I am posting it in case we have any new players and they don't sheep a mafia because they are town. I would love to hear everyone's read JUST PLEASE DO NOT CALL AND ONE PR in your reads. (If you read some one PR just call them town). This is to Town VT's Post thinking you are a PR makes don't claim it just post thinking you are it makes it harder for mafia to find the real PR's. Remember you may not want to die but it is better We die than a PR.

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Yes This post can be read as Fluff, I am posting it in case we have any new players and they don't sheep a mafia because they read them as town town. Correction

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

I get that a lot, and in this circumstance I credit the fact that its easy to be sincere when you're telling the truth, lol. I just don't know. I would have pegged Mr. Cage as Scum, but he cried sheriff before leaving, so that is left unresolved. Iron Giant also appears scummy to me, people good with data analysis are really good at manipulating data to suit their needs. We have missing posters and subs, so my brain fixates on the possibility that they are mafia and not talking for one reason or another- which would mean my scum reads would be flawed for lack of a proper stats population. They need to talk, and we need a night action. Grey worm I read as neutral, but I can't explain why, and Fat Worm once again has claimed citz, but I could flop him as neutral trying to hide as a citz.

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This was one, the other is further back. I agree with the sheep comment.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

I'd have to fabricate a list to answer this I'm sorry. Fat worms claim of citz may be true, but he's also very neutralish so far. Iron Giant made a point to create a little friction with me, maybe to see how I react, and in my experience when I enter model united nations mode, if you can't get along with me, its not anything I'm doing. Mulan def town, she has xp, and she is very curt and to the point. Dr. Quacksworth, equal chance scum or town, but I love him so I want him to be town (bias alert). The rest have been pretty much doing, for lack of a better term, exploratory surgery thus far.

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Here's the other. So you are new and just posting today. We switching our Nick Cage for a less hostile Nick Cage, I'll give you a read on him when he posts more.

What would you say your read on me is so fare? town scum 3rd party Null What leans? and Why?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

What would you say your read on me is so fare? town scum 3rd party Null What leans? and Why?

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You obviously have more than a few FM games under your belt. You voted for plurality + majority (I think) which could be evidence of scum given that the general consensus is plurality votes = benefit to town. Not a fair judgement, but its the implication that is being tossed around so its impossible to ignore those who don't want strict plurality. But, you come off as a townie to me initially. What I don't think you are is neutral, but then again, you could just be helpful.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

Here's the other. So you are new and just posting today. We switching our Nick Cage for a less hostile Nick Cage, I'll give you a read on him when he posts more.

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Ohhh the New card (get to play the new card HMMMMM) <--- Scummy thought. wishing I rolled scum this game Shaking fists at the Mod Gods

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

What would you say your read on me is so fare? town scum 3rd party Null What leans? and Why?

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100% scum. I came into this game a few hours ago (late) but u came into this game now (also late) making u later than me. so you're scum.

Now the only question left is, who is your scummates?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Ohhh the New card (get to play the new card HMMMMM) <--- Scummy thought. wishing I rolled scum this game Shaking fists at the Mod Gods

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I meant new to this FM, not inexperienced.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

You obviously have more than a few FM games under your belt. You voted for plurality + majority (I think) which could be evidence of scum given that the general consensus is plurality votes = benefit to town. Not a fair judgement, but its the implication that is being tossed around so its impossible to ignore those who don't want strict plurality. But, you come off as a townie to me initially. What I don't think you are is neutral, but then again, you could just be helpful.

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I like that read. Only error in it is, I did not vote anything as my first post was just less than an hour ago. But You are either Hard town Or you pocketed me. Time will tell. But I do not want to see you lynched today. Now I do need to read thru the Day 1 50+ posts of troll posts ( as all Day 1 FM's go). Jan have you seen anyone pushing any agenda any reads of that nature?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

Now the only question left is, who is your scummates?

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Well, interesting thought. Lets say I am scum Am I pocketing Jan?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Well, interesting thought. Lets say I am scum Am I pocketing Jan?

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nah. Jan has u wrapped around their finger. Even if you think you are pocketing Jan, that's because Jan wants u to think that. Just know this; Jan is always 2 steps ahead of you.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

nah. Jan has u wrapped around their finger. Even if you think you are pocketing Jan, that's because Jan wants u to think that. Just know this; Jan is always 2 steps ahead of you.

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What are your reads Love to hear them.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

Now the only question left is, who is your scummates?

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MUSHU

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

I like that read. Only error in it is, I did not vote anything as my first post was just less than an hour ago. But You are either Hard town Or you pocketed me. Time will tell. But I do not want to see you lynched today. Now I do need to read thru the Day 1 50+ posts of troll posts ( as all Day 1 FM's go). Jan have you seen anyone pushing any agenda any reads of that nature?

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More people reading than alignment reading. I don’t have any FM do to make any logical statement about hunting. Iron Giant has been searching, and you are currently very interested in me, which I’ll need to ponder. Dr. Quacksworth has me right where he wants me relationship wise- for good or ill. And Once again, my only thing I’d bet on is Vegas odds are on Mulan being town.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

What are your reads Love to hear them.

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Town
S-FM Vlädislow Kennt
S-FM Lois Francklyn

Hidden players, Hidden Gy Flips. No way Of knowing if we hit Mafia or Town or 3rd Party. Thinking Day 1 sleep may not be a bad thing. As we may kill a possible Key Town we may need is High. Hitting a Mafia day one with so many people being townie is high. If we have an experience Mafia player in mafia team would be easy for them to lead town. Key fact is for Mafia to win is for them to control the Narrative. They need a Day 1 lynch to hit a key town role OR out a town PR. Ie bad for town. We need the posts we need to see who dies N1. The Death of N1 confirms them as Town or 3rd Party. Only down side is MAfia has 2kp night 1 if we lynch a mafia night 1 we reduce to 1kp. Yes I am arguing with myself on both sides of the coin.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Hidden players, Hidden Gy Flips. No way Of knowing if we hit Mafia or Town or 3rd Party. Thinking Day 1 sleep may not be a bad thing. As we may kill a possible Key Town we may need is High. Hitting a Mafia day one with so many people being townie is high. If we have an experience Mafia player in mafia team would be easy for them to lead town. Key fact is for Mafia to win is for them to control the Narrative. They need a Day 1 lynch to hit a key town role OR out a town PR. Ie bad for town. We need the posts we need to see who dies N1. The Death of N1 confirms them as Town or 3rd Party. Only down side is MAfia has 2kp night 1 if we lynch a mafia night 1 we reduce to 1kp. Yes I am arguing with myself on both sides of the coin.

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I mean, considering both sides isn’t a bad thong unless you let the argument weigh you down and fail to act imo.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

I mean, considering both sides isn’t a bad thong unless you let the argument weigh you down and fail to act imo.

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Lol thong. Damn you admin, I need to edit.