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Re: S-FM 333: Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
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Originally Posted by
Not Maf Richtofen
No i got stuff to say. I just got off a 9 hour drive across a few state, i made it to a rest stop and was gonna say something but i just wanted to keep driving. Anyway im tired rn so imma take a few hours rest before i talk. Just a heads up
it will be the next day by then. so yeah get some rest.
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Re: S-FM 333: Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
Well I'm sure there was scum on Wrath's train. Unfortunately I pushed Wrath hard and apparently joined them with my vote. What else is there to say? I'm dead.
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
Well I'm sure there was scum on Wrath's train. Unfortunately I pushed Wrath hard and apparently joined them with my vote. What else is there to say? I'm dead.
and you can confirm that you're not doctor before you're hammered?
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I mean, honestly mafia should already know who doc is by this point unless they really didn't want to do HB play
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or I guess they'd get a 1/3 shot tonight if they were super unlucky
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so i think what's more likely is that they maybe found doctor last night, but they've already know who seer is and are dodging killing them
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ill probably hammer in 12 minutes if nobody minds
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Re: S-FM 333: Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
ill probably hammer in 12 minutes if nobody minds
Go for it
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I only play a game very rarely. so I'm stealing the hammer from you Frinckle.
-vote Renegade
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Renegade has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Renegade (5 [L-0]): Auwt, ZZorange, OzyWho, Scvmurderer, Gingerape
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Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
Night 3
Vote Counts
Renegade (5 [L-0]):
Auwt, ZZorange, OzyWho, Scvmurderer, Gingerape |
Role
Renegade was Consort
No last will was provided. |
[COUNTDOWN]00:23:57:00[/COUNTDOWN]
Night action deadline is 1 hour before SoD
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Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
Day 4
| The sun rises over the ocean. Day 4 has begun! |
Role
Gingerape was a Passenger
Last Will
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[COUNTDOWN]01:20:00:00[/COUNTDOWN]
7 Players Remain. 4 votes to throw overboard.
4 votes to hammer.
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Re: S-FM 333: Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
Paopan, could you please explain your thoughts process on page 18?
Before then, you joined the wagon on me at SoD2 when it gotten hot.
But then on page 18 you:
-Continue to go after me while the wagon has still some heat.
-Then you jump on the Ren's wagon without any explanation, when it starts to become the hottest instead.
-Then you jump on the Wraths wagon because "Gonna go with the inactive ones". The wagon that me, your scumread, pushed. The only possible counter wagon to Ren's. Again a wagon that got hot.
You can ofc see how those wagon jumps without explanations look suspect in retrospect. I think it'd be bloody jolly if you elaborated on what went on in your head there.
Btw, why you ignored and never addressed SCV's slot after calling it the scummiest slot in the game earlier?
-vote Not Maf Richtofen
╰(*´︶`*)╯
At this point, I'm just following Auwt's lynch order. Because, apparently, he solved the game while I was being a dumbo or something like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Lol @ 2 power roles being alive still.
Except: one is probably only useful when dying, whilst the other is busy saving Auwt every night. [Both Presumptions]
gn gn :laugh:
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Since Paopan is too based to kill, we have only one lynch today and his name is -vote Not Maf Richtofen
Sucks to suck kid.
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Originally Posted by
OzyWho
Lol @ 2 power roles being alive still.
Except: one is probably only useful when dying, whilst the other is busy saving Auwt every night. [Both Presumptions]
gn gn :laugh:
My biggest thing with your slot has been weird your tempo has been this game even ignoring vote count analysis of your choices this game. Sometimes your frustration feels real like D1 when you were upset about MM and then other times it just feels like scum pretending to be frustrated like when you said nobody was listening to you. I get it to an extent, but you have been absolutely flooding the game with a torrent of quirky analysis to the point where I'm seriously skeptical you could even be scum without making some insane cognitive gymnastics happen. Hell, maybe there's a slip in there somewhere but you've been solid.
That said. I also still think you're a good candidate for Actress.
A scum!ZZorange would have had to bus the ever-living shit out of Renegade the entire game. The two obviously have history and it would be as simple as them in discord chat saying "yeah bro just keep it up you guys lynch me tomorrow and you got towncred" but his vote record is pretty good overall unless I missed something.
SCV is similar and his #867 where he makes it clear that Renegade was a fair lynch, he had even pushed Renegade earlier than that. I don't think Renegade was double bussed. That feels insane.
NotPaopan screams the most as obvious scum. His switch-off from Renegade to Wrath was comical. He said his top townread was ZZorange, but didn't vote with ZZorange on Renegade. These things actually make me townread ZZorange more.
I'm going to leave this here for you to look through
@Auwt
#736 - #743 for that general weirdness with renegade-paopan-ozywho :: Ozy was nearly at L-1 at the time.
A case against NMR: Both Ozy and NMR voted eachother at one point, so there's that. One other thing to consider is what Wrath pointed out. If we can assume Wrath was Passenger and not Actress, he seemed to believe the #831 interaction disqualified Renegade & NMR from being partners. I'm not entirely sure I buy that simply because that interaction could honestly be interpreted as tough love to encourage him to do something else less conspicuous that day. On day two he asked for leads, something no scum in FM is obligated to do at any time. It was seen at classic mod scum behavior by a few but most relevant, Ozy & Wrath (giving us more evidence to conclude Wrath was not actress.) This is also the portion where Ozy & NMR voted eachother, and Renegade agreed with Ozy but didn't vote NMR.
Renegade also omitted NMR in his post just prior despite NMR being the number one lowposter:
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Frankly I'm very unimpressed by this game so far.
You have a bunch of low posters who throw random shit out and make little sense (ZZorange, Gingerape, Wrath, SCV, others)
A case for NMR: Here's one other thing I'm kind of feeling from NMR, and that's a completely tone-deaf naivety. Useless town, paralyzed scum, whatever you want to call it. But if you actually look at his early day one, he didn't seem overly scummy. He even technically softclaimed Passenger in his opening post for the sake of those who care about softs. He had no issues interacting with Light_Yagami who pressed him and who we know was town, though it was RVS. He didn't know how to vote or see votes, but expressed the desire to. His day one, sucked, true but his entrance didn't imo.
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Conclusively, my lynch order is:
Paopan -> NMR -> Ozy -> ZZorange -> SCV -> Auwt
Depending on what's said here, I'll vote and adjust this PoE accordingly but I'm not rushing this yet as it's easily solvable once people talk.
I'm really hoping I don't need to write a section over Auwt after ISOing the rest of you. -__-
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Renegade + ZZorange would be a two way bus.
Renegade + SCV would be a very light bus but it looks more like SCV just didn't really give a shit about what Ren had to say often.
Renegade + Paopan would have them both lightly pushing eachother and then pushing a Wrath vote.
Renegade + Ozy is weird. I can't tell if Renegade is afraid of Ozy or trying to pocket him. Either way, the latter worked.
Renegade + NMR seems plausible. Not much to say here that I didn't outline in depth in my previous post.
I'm going with Renegade+NotPaopan+NMR (/ozy) team for now.
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Ok, ngl, I read 2 random sentences of Frinckles posts - and those posts were so... disagreeable... that I couldn't bring myself to read the rest tbh.
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A case against NMR: Both Ozy and NMR voted eachother at one point, so there's that.
Valid
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A case for NMR: ...But if you actually look at his early day one, he didn't seem overly scummy. ...He didn't know how to vote or see votes, but expressed the desire to.
Did I wrongfully connect 2 sentences or are you saying the slot with 0 votes on D1 was interesting in voting? His only mention of even either the word vote or lynch D1 was in response to "new players still get voted huh?".
Anyhow, the wolves should give up tbh.
The only way they win is if they have a deep wolf being Frinckles or Scv tbh.
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
My biggest thing with your slot has been weird your tempo has been this game even ignoring vote count analysis of your choices this game. Sometimes your frustration feels real like D1 when you were upset about MM and then other times it just feels like scum pretending to be frustrated like when you said nobody was listening to you. I get it to an extent, but you have been absolutely flooding the game with a torrent of quirky analysis to the point where I'm seriously skeptical you could even be scum without making some insane cognitive gymnastics happen. Hell, maybe there's a slip in there somewhere but you've been solid.
That said. I also still think you're a good candidate for Actress.
A scum!ZZorange would have had to bus the ever-living shit out of Renegade the entire game. The two obviously have history and it would be as simple as them in discord chat saying "yeah bro just keep it up you guys lynch me tomorrow and you got towncred" but his vote record is pretty good overall unless I missed something.
SCV is similar and his #867 where he makes it clear that Renegade was a fair lynch, he had even pushed Renegade earlier than that. I don't think Renegade was double bussed. That feels insane.
NotPaopan screams the most as obvious scum. His switch-off from Renegade to Wrath was comical. He said his top townread was ZZorange, but didn't vote with ZZorange on Renegade. These things actually make me townread ZZorange more.
I believe we can take ZZ and SCV out of the equation right now, personal thought though.
I highly dislike the way NMR has voted compared to how little to no reason he managed to provide.
Also, Paopan drag a lot of attention onto PQR during D1, when NMR was quite near being voted off (probably kinda saved him).
These votes are also a blatant proof :
PQRnHack (3 [L-5]):
WrathCyber, NotPaopan, ZZorange
Saving NMR, round 1. (3-way-tie)
WrathCyber (5 [L-1]):
OzyWho, Not Maf Richtofen, Renegade, NotPaopan, Gikkle
Saving NMR, round 2.
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Not Maf Richtofen (3 [L-5]):
PQRnHack, OzyWho, Gikkle
I would not expect Ozy to create another path for the 2-way-tie especially if NMR is scum mate with him.
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
I'm going to leave this here for you to look through @Auwt #736 - #743 for that general weirdness with renegade-paopan-ozywho :: Ozy was nearly at L-1 at the time.
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Originally Posted by
NotPaopan
Ignore my remark. Should've refreshed @Renegade . So It's Ozy then.
But even if he flipped scum. Everyone here knows you are doing some bus moves with each other. So yeah, this is a note.
Solely based on this quote from Paopan, and with the knowledge Renegade is scum, I don't think Ozy and Renegade are sharing the same alignment.
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
Conclusively, my lynch order is:
Paopan -> NMR -> Ozy -> ZZorange -> SCV -> Auwt
Depending on what's said here, I'll vote and adjust this PoE accordingly but I'm not rushing this yet as it's easily solvable once people talk.
I'm really hoping I don't need to write a section over Auwt after ISOing the rest of you. -__-
The first two are honestly interchangeable.
Those two slots have suddenly become less and less active the past days, even if they were skipped quite quickly.
No idea if they gave up but yeah.
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-vote Not Mafia Richtofen
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Originally Posted by
OzyWho
Paopan, could you please explain your thoughts process on page 18?
Before then, you joined the wagon on me at SoD2 when it gotten hot.
But then on page 18 you:
-Continue to go after me while the wagon has still
some heat.
-Then you jump on the Ren's wagon without any explanation, when it starts to become the hottest instead.
-Then you jump on the Wraths wagon because "Gonna go with the inactive ones". The wagon that me, your scumread, pushed. The only possible counter wagon to Ren's. Again a wagon that got hot.
You can ofc see how those wagon jumps without explanations look suspect in retrospect. I think it'd be bloody jolly if you elaborated on what went on in your head there.
Btw, why you ignored and never addressed SCV's slot after calling it the scummiest slot in the game earlier?
-vote Not Maf Richtofen
╰(*´︶`*)╯
At this point, I'm just following Auwt's lynch order. Because, apparently, he solved the game while I was being a dumbo or something like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just want to create a wagon and sheep and all.
Well. Can't create a new train
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Can't scum read an AFK :P
-vote Not Maf Richtofen
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Originally Posted by
WrathCyber
Okay, that interaction between renegade and NMF makes me believe that they're not factionally on the same side. Therefore, my line of thinking is that if NMF flips red, then Rene will be green. If Rene flips red, then NMF is green. Easy!
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Originally Posted by
Not Maf Richtofen
Sorry but what interaction between me and rene? I dont recall me talking to him
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Originally Posted by
Not Maf Richtofen
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Originally Posted by
Not Maf Richtofen
While i still dont see why you suspect me as maf, i am sus of wrath. Seeing at the near beginning of day 2 they just left their vote with you [Ozy], switched to gikkle, then goes to ren makes me think they are trying to find/start an easy lynch train :P.
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Originally Posted by
NotPaopan
Gonna go with the inactive ones.
-vote WrathCyber
Does not feel authentic though.
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Not Maf Richtofen has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Not Maf Richtofen (4 [L-0]): OzyWho, ZZorange, Auwt, NotPaopan
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Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
Night 4
Vote Counts
Not Maf Richtofen (4 [L-0]):
OzyWho, ZZorange, Auwt, NotPaopan |
Role
Not Maf Richtofen was a Passenger
No last will was provided. |
| Players Alive |
Davy Jones' Locker |
@Frinckles
@ZZorange
@Auwt
@NotPaopan
@OzyWho
@Scvmurderer
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Marshmallow Marshall (The Lady in White)
Light_Yagami (Private Eye)
PQRnHack (???)
WrathCyber (Passenger)
Gikkle (Passenger)
Renegade (Consort)
Gingerape (Passenger)
Not Maf Richtofen (Passenger)
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[COUNTDOWN]01:04:24:00[/COUNTDOWN]
Night action deadline is 1 hour before SoD
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Murder in the Mid-Atlantic
Day 5
| The sun rises over the ocean. Day 5 has begun! |
Role
Scvmurderer was a Passenger
Last Will
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| Players Alive |
Davy Jones' Locker |
@Frinckles
@ZZorange
@Auwt
@NotPaopan
@OzyWho
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Marshmallow Marshall (The Lady in White)
Light_Yagami (Private Eye)
PQRnHack (???)
WrathCyber (Passenger)
Gikkle (Passenger)
Renegade (Consort)
Gingerape (Passenger)
Not Maf Richtofen (Passenger)
Scvmurderer (Passenger)
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[COUNTDOWN]02:00:00:00[/COUNTDOWN]
5 Players Remain. 3 votes to throw overboard.
3 votes to hammer.
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Ok. Neat, I'm sleepwalker.
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Oh wait there's another passenger or NMR was really passenger right hmm
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I dunnoooo kind of tempted to think NMR was real. Hmm. Why would an actress have been on a passenger. They haven't hit a single fucking PR.
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Literally, not a single one. Even Light was killed indirectly lol
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Turboing NMR was foolishness. Too much info lost.
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Anybody get a carol last night? SmugPepe
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It's almost as if Mafia got heartbreaker, chose not to play it and just got shit luck instead. In which case it's sleepwalker and have of you are scum
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To which I'd say COWARDS. Playing Heartbreaker is fun and easy. You just say whoever you loved is the heartbreaker and even if you become confirmed scum, town overanalyzes any interactions with confirmed scum and loses.
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Or you could just claim lover lul
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"But then we're outted"
Who cares, if you guys didn't run heartbreaker to avoid that you missed probably your only opportunity to hit town PRs because every other shot has sucked. Heartbreaker is broken.
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Imma go play some vidya games I had claim captain of the boat
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
Ok. Neat, I'm sleepwalker.
Do you wish us to mass claim?
I'd prefer to lynch Paopan and give the Doctor a last chance to save someone in the case of game not being over.
But if Paopan is the last Mafia, then you counter claim another Passenger and give the Mafia an unnecessary chance to mislynch here? Is my math correct?
Which is what happened here
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Ngl, I thought I deleted that last sentence... God damn phone typing :facepalm:
Well, yeah, anyways people - I guess I'm unintentionally counter claiming Frinckles here under the presumption that NMF was actual Passenger. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tbh Frinckles, that claim of yours looks like a TMI slip. And with me as your counterclaim - after both LW's scumread you and townread me - your prospects for the next game day don't look good imho. But ultimately it'll be either ZZ's or Auwt's choice.
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(Both LW's with reads I mean)
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I think the scariest scenario is Frinckles being Actress and intentionally attempting this day to be a counter claiming day, thereby guaranteeing the win even if he gets lynched.
For such a plan though, they'd have to have had intentionally left the 2 power roles alive all game after deducing what's the random power role?
I think it's better safe than sorry and not focus todays lynch on this counter claim.
In which case, sorry but there's only one option here:
-vote NotPaopan
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Originally Posted by
OzyWho
Ngl, I thought I deleted that last sentence... God damn phone typing :facepalm:
Well, yeah, anyways people - I guess I'm unintentionally counter claiming Frinckles here under the presumption that NMF was actual Passenger. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tbh Frinckles, that claim of yours looks like a TMI slip. And with me as your counterclaim - after both LW's scumread you and townread me - your prospects for the next game day don't look good imho. But ultimately it'll be either ZZ's or Auwt's choice.
I mean if you want to pivot, feel free but if it turns out you're ccing me as scum you'll lose that battle. It's still possible we're both passengers as long as NMR was actress.
Though again, idk why they'd be on passenger
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Originally Posted by
OzyWho
I think the scariest scenario is Frinckles being Actress and intentionally attempting this day to be a counter claiming day, thereby guaranteeing the win even if he gets lynched.
For such a plan though, they'd have to have had intentionally left the 2 power roles alive all game after deducing what's the random power role?
I think it's better safe than sorry and not focus todays lynch on this counter claim.
In which case, sorry but there's only one option here:
-vote NotPaopan
I think they day should be a cc day. Or atleast power roles should out. There's no reason to hide anymore afaik.
And you and Auwt both know you'd be dead a long time ago if I rolled scum. Look at the night kills. What kind of shit kill is gikkle?
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I mean, it's not that complicated. We need to see what Paopan claims. Then the other three can chime in. If there are any other passenger claims besides me/ozy some fuckery is happening.
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Don't forget to play Love Is In The Air on 2.0's Chaos Mode!
