S-FM 303: Summer 2020 (Newbie Game)

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

Hmm.

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MartinGG99: I really don’t know what to make of this guy. I still don’t like the question and think it’s dangerous for town. I was trying to figure out if he was just a clueless townie earlier, but he’s shown now that he’s definitely not clueless. So he’s either smart town or a smart wolf.

If he’s smart town, it’s all as he says. He disagrees with me that the question could help expose our power roles, and was looking for reactions (and got a few). Ok, fine, fair enough.

If he’s smart wolf the plan was to potentially expose some power roles, while having an “escape hatch” in claiming what he has. Possibly also gain some town cred for later by saying “Hey look, why would I draw attention To myself like that if I was scum?”

He’s definitely got the balls to stare down a couple of votes, and has made the judgement that this play will not get him lynched (correctly or otherwise). So either world is entirely possible. I guess the only alignment indicative part is the question of how likely it is that a smart, thoughtful player doesn’t see the risk to town?

I think... possible but relatively unlikely? He himself even mentioned a possible risk (a power role might avoid answering out of fear), so he’s clearly capable of seeing the risks. Perhaps they didn’t occur to him at first, but he seems like he would have thought this through at least a bit.

Plus he’s been very helpful and friendly to me - teaching me about the mechanics of the site and offering condolences for the cancelled game. Could just be a naturally nice and friendly guy - and I’m sorry for suspecting you for this Martin if you are! - but it’s also a cheap, easy way to get brownie points as a wolf.

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I have no objections to your evaluation of me. I think you've made a few valid points of me.

Although, this suggests to me that you think there are circumstances that of which I didn't think of. To be completely honest and fair, I am willing to admit there's a fair possibility of that. Even though I've done some homework towards understanding FM, my inexperience in playing FM could mean that I am currently unaware or incapable of thinking of circumstances where the hazard exists. I mean, after all, you were the one who went to a Champs game at MU.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

I have no objections to your evaluation of me. I think you've made a few valid points of me.

Although, this suggests to me that you think there are circumstances that of which I didn't think of. To be completely honest and fair, I am willing to admit there's a fair possibility of that. Even though I've done some homework towards understanding FM, my inexperience in playing FM could mean that I am currently unaware or incapable of thinking of circumstances where the hazard exists. I mean, after all, you were the one who went to a Champs game at MU.

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How inexperienced are you? And how much of champs have you spectated/read this season?

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

How inexperienced are you? And how much of champs have you spectated/read this season?

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Inexperienced as in this is literally my first FM game. I watched/read yours, season 7 game 8, I think I read parts of the season 3 game where Sorian was the last survivng mafia and made it to the end despite all his teammates being put to the chopping block on the first three days. I've watched three or four episodes of the podcast, all game reviews. And I've kind of just read bits here and there. I cant remember what exactly everything I've read since i was putting in a few hours each day for about a week.

Chances are is that I felt overconfident with the amount of watching/reading that I did and therefore didn't spend enough time thinking about the possible outcomes of my question. However, I am only a noob in terms of experience, so what can one expect? :huh:

Anyways, I'm just going to chill here for a bit unless you have further questions. I mean, I've posted half (or nearly half) the post count as of right now. I'll be more active again when more people start arriving.

Hmm. Yeah ok, I guess I can see it coming from a smart-but-inexperienced town Martin. Not that I’m particularly experienced myself - this will (hopefully!) be my first non-cancelled forum game - but I have spent a lot of time following games and hanging out in spec chat and so forth and absorbed a fair bit of stuff by osmosis.

Ok, a couple more questions.

1) What would your start of game strategy been if you were scum?

2) How did you feel when the second vote went on?

Oh, and 3) What brought you here for your first game?

Yeah I'm waiting for more peepz to engage....

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Originally Posted by Renegade

Yeah I'm waiting for more peepz to engage....

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Well how about you give us your reads on the three other people who have engaged so far?

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

Ok, a couple more questions.

1) What would your start of game strategy been if you were scum?

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If I'm going to be absolutely honest, potentially quite similar to what I did at the start of this game, maybe select a more sketchy question or don't question at all since a scum would already know who's town (which is possibly what I got most from the question). The socializing aspect of FM appeals to me and, as it applies to myself, it doesn't make much sense to me to participate in a social game only to not be social when evil. I really like discussing and arguing for or against things (though i will admit i rarely, but sometimes, have an ego problem that i'm always working to try and fix).

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

2) How did you feel when the second vote went on?

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I did feel slightly concerned that nobody was going to answer my question directly. I had hope there would be a more varied response (which normally would come with more responses) to evaluate and make reads upon. This early in the game, ISO's are pointless in my opinion (with the low post count and attendance) and so the only thing I have for reads are reactions, If all the reactions are relatively the same, then either I've evaluated all towns or everyone simply would react in the same way, making the question itself pointless along with it reads. And if that's so, then all I did was very little.

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

Oh, and 3) What brought you here for your first game?

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I used to play the mod version of -Mafia- on Starcraft II. I have had around 700 games of it, and they were quite fun. Unfortunately, i need to maintain a bit of variety in my life otherwise it quickly gets boring no matter how fun something is. I heard about FM and knew about it for awhile, but I was discouraged to check it out primarily due to two things:

1. Years earlier I was dealing with depression and a few select issues that made me doubt my competence for a game that may have a heavier emphasis on the social aspect. If you ever look into the mod, you'll see its much more speedy and there's almost always a power role for everyone, as the primary way of catching evils is often derived from role-based leads. There was often little behavioral analysis and assuming you remembered all the 54 role interactions, it was fairly simple. However, that leads me to my 2nd reason

2. I also was concerned about the massive expanse of additional roles that could be added to the game, and considering the mod almost always used "[Alignment] [Role type (I.e. killing)] Random" slots, and i had felt that with the flexibility of FM, it would be harder to remember roles and whatnot since there could be a bunch more. Thankfully, all the possible roles and role interactions are more clearly explained on setup pages for FM.

Its only untill recently about 2 weeks ago @SuperJack mentioned it to me and I looked into it.

As part of a habit due to a feature from Starcraft II's mod -Mafia-, I took note of certain role chances and etc. Here's some of them.

KEEP IN MIND THAT MOST OF THESE ARE VERY IN-GENERAL AND NOT CASE SPECIFIC

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Mafia has a 42% (3/7) chance of killing a town power role this night, and another 42% (3/7) chance of having the non-killing role
target a TPR (assuming all Town Any aren't Citizen).

Town power roles with targetable abilities each only have a 25% (2/8) chance of targeting a mafia tonight.
Collectively, that means a 57.8% (1-(6/8)^3) chance that at least one of the TPRs will target a mafia this night.

Doctor/Bodyguard has 12.5% (1/8) chance of healing/guarding the mafia kill target, assuming the Doc/BG isn't the mafia kill target.

Detective has a 12.5% (1/8) chance of tracking the mafia who goes to kill.

Jailor has a 25% (2/8) chance of jailing a mafia, but keep in mind the other mafia can just kill for them.

Mason/Crier can't target anything, and considering Mason cannot convert, Mason is worth less than crier unless double roll.

Escort has a 25% (2/8) of hitting mafia, but also has 25% (2/8) to hit a TPR, and 12.5% (1/8) within the first 25% to hit the killer.

Assuming Veteran is visited while on Alert, there is a 50% (2/4) chance that they are mafia. Lookouts aren't immune to veteran.

Obviously, Cororner, Mayor, and Marshall can't target mafia but they have their obvious uses in their abilities.

We can skip lynching people, but based on the information above, I suggest we don't. In which case, I hope we can come to a
consensus by the end of this day phase on who to lynch.

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More stats:

If you are a TPR and reveal, there is a 33.9% (1 -(13/16)^2) chance that *a* Bodyguard, Doc, or Bus Driver exists in the other two
TPR's. Additionally, there's a 55% (1 - (6/9)^2) chance that one of the two mafias are a Consort, Beguiler, or Kidnapper.

There is also a 17.6% (1 - (15/16)^3) chance that one of the TPR's could have rolled Citizen.

There is a 33% (1 - (14/16)^3) chance that one of the TPR's is a Mayor or Marshall

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DAY 2 STATS IF WE LYNCH A TOWNIE, AND A TOWNIE DIES NIGHT 1

Presumably, a TPR wouldn't get lynched as they would reveal, probably only to be night killed.

Mafia has either a 60% (3/5) chance or 40% (2/5) chance to kill a TPR

Doctor/Bodyguard has a 16.6% (1/6) chance of healing/guarding a mafia kill target, unless they themselves are the target.

Detective has a 16.6% (1/6) chance of tracking the mafia who goes to kill.

Jailor has a 33% (2/6) chance of jailing either of the mafias on night 2.

Escort has a 33% (2/6) chance of hitting mafia, but can also have either a 33% (2/6) or 16.6% (1/6) chance to hit a TPR.

Veteran has a 50% (2/4) or 66% (2/3) chance of hitting a mafia if he is visited that night. As stated before, lookouts are not immune.

Darn 8) emojis, whenever you see one of them, its supposed to be an " 8 ) "

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

Well how about you give us your reads on the three other people who have engaged so far?

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Sure-

Marino is currently null for me. I think the over the top start was and flim flam was a bit goofy but ultimately NAI to me at this time. I like that he wants to create discussion, but copious amount of random discussion doesn't help town IMO.

Bakemire - Not much to go off here other than the pushing of Marino a bit. Null.

Ash Loreal- snappy, seems towny, with the pointed questions and responses which are posed so far to extract information that would be useful for town. Leans town.

Alright, its 11:50 PM here. I'm going to head to bed. I'll be back here hopefully for another hour or two in the morning, and sporadically through the rest of tomorrow.

I wish you all good luck, and I hope our discussions today will prove useful in the future.

As a side note, if you're left thinking that I implied that I was evil in response to Ash's question, then allow me to put it in another way: While I am currently posting a lot, that is because I like being social in this game, not because I am Town. Even if I were not Town, I would still like to post a lot because I like being social in this game. I honestly enjoy discussing arguments and the points for them as a matter of life, not because of this game.

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Originally Posted by Renegade

Sure-

Marino is currently null for me. I think the over the top start was and flim flam was a bit goofy but ultimately NAI to me at this time. I like that he wants to create discussion, but copious amount of random discussion doesn't help town IMO.

Bakemire - Not much to go off here other than the pushing of Marino a bit. Null.

Ash Loreal- snappy, seems towny, with the pointed questions and responses which are posed so far to extract information that would be useful for town. Leans town.

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Don't be shy Renegade.

4 sounds like he isn't from downtown but from uptown or beyond.

It would be logical to get a wolf on trial and place the first piece of puzzle.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

As a side note, if you're left thinking that I implied that I was evil in response to Ash's question, then allow me to put it in another way:

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Uuuugh. I didn’t really like the answer - seemed too thought out or something? I dunno, was having a hard time putting it into words. Like not horrible but not really what I would have expected from town and I wasn’t sure whether I was overthinking it or there was actually something fishy there.

But this unprompted “clarification”? I hate it. It reeks of wolfy self-consciousness.

I came close to unvoting you a couple of times but right now I feel glad I didn’t.

Good morning everyone! I hope this will be a great game, since it is first one for majority of people here.

Also I vote Auwt, to put early pressure on him, before he can start putting pressure on new players. My prevention attack.

-vote Auwt

Also:

Lex retro non agit.

uwu

Damn I almost forgot this exists. Its hard for me to keep track of things.

Anyhow, I'm back and ready to do this. I guess I will do the same shit I do in the mod, random lynch to get info and shit

-vote Auwt

I forgot about two things:

First, activity:
Around half of players here are EU players, I understand that we have a lot of US/NA players and people from other time zones, so expect around 6-7 BEFORE start of game time, to be the most active period of the day (evening on EU, afternoon on NA i believe). And since day is long, we will still have enough time to discuss everything, I hope.

Secondly:

Hi all gl hf
And may the Town win.

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Originally Posted by Grakylan

Damn I almost forgot this exists. Its hard for me to keep track of things.

Anyhow, I'm back and ready to do this. I guess I will do the same shit I do in the mod, random lynch to get info and shit

-vote Auwt

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Uh, I would like you to explain this strategy please. What info exactly do you expect to obtain from lynching Auwt?

That's a huge red flag right there with voting up a random lynch on someone who isn't even here.

I find it suspicious too.

-unvote

Disregard that previous vote. Old habits from the mod where I rando for info. I shouldn't have been too hasty without reading the thread first considering I had to do stuff irl right as the game began. Whoops.

So now the question is wtf is Dallarian doing trying to rando Auwt for being a FM veteran?

Whats more concerning is this is Martin's first FM game and hes already doing AtE with le depression and being a whole ass mathematician.
"My old habit from the mod is to big brain calculate the intricate math behind the save on day 1." Why? Most of us mod players don't do it til we die or its lategame. But its literally the earlygame.

Why are you trying to bring up "muh depression?" Everyone heres kinda an introvert, or was just overwhelmed by how much FM takes, not gonna lie. But depression?

Is he trying to gain our sympathy? Why would he need to do that if he was a power role and could just prove himself eventually? Its like hes drawing a road map for his potential scum.

Sorry for being brash but I just needed to bring it up.

-vote MartinGG99

Not to mention Dallarian trying to rando someone (mr. Auwt) who "isn't here" at all. Haven't seen a post from him so I could kinda understand wanting to force him to talk...

Maybe just wait a few more hours to see if he speaks up? He could just be busy like I was.

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

Where you lose me is when you argue that the answers would provide no hints about roles if the responses came from town, but might if they came from scum.

Like if it’s completely hypothetical and nothing anyone says could imply anything about what role they have... then how is it supposed to help you catch wolves?

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In here you use deduction skills and other stuff to catch wolves. 2 previous games (Nightless, and catching mafia d1) are good examples of it. Fortunately we don't have roles like electromaniac here, but you are probably aware what means power role revealing D1, specially if we are not sure, if we have protective role at all.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

I've mulled it over a bit. I had hoped more people would answer it.

Basically, the point of the question was to figure out who would question me, and to what extent. I figure if people are town, they don't have an informed majority, and therefore are more skeptical of things. I wanted be proactive and get a good pool of reads to start from, and then other people might make their own informed analyses of it in the future. For example, if someone acted towny by questioning my motives and actions, but then refrained from attacking someone else in the future, that could be telling. If you review my past posts, you might see that I was hinting that I even counted your agression towards the question as an acceptable response, because thats the point. Scum might just answer it freely without care or question because they think there's nothing telling about it since it would be hypothetical.



When I meant "hints", im referring to the act where a person who is a TPR says something in response, and because of who they are, their answers are altered in such a way that a normal citizen would not have worded it. Considering this was a question where we could all say what we wanted, I sincerely believed being a TPR had no influence on what people answered. In hindsight, I suppose not answering the question out of fear could be accidentally hinting though, not that I believe that has occurred.

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That's some clever experienced guy stuff, isn't it?
Fear not, saying you need 4 votes to lynch someone is a lie, but just a small one. You are not in any danger yet. You need 5 votes to lynch, and your self vote doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

Anyways, I'm just going to chill here for a bit unless you have further questions. I mean, I've posted half (or nearly half) the post count as of right now. I'll be more active again when more people start arriving.

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That's scary mate. Slow down a bit please.

I need to think over yesterday's discussion, a lot of things happen with Martin. I would be likely to Town read him for taking a lot of attention, what mafia usually wouldn't like, but he just said he likes being social.

I just have learnt how multiquote works like, can be useful in the future.

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Originally Posted by Grakylan

-unvote

Disregard that previous vote. Old habits from the mod where I rando for info. I shouldn't have been too hasty without reading the thread first considering I had to do stuff irl right as the game began. Whoops.

So now the question is wtf is Dallarian doing trying to rando Auwt for being a FM veteran?

Whats more concerning is this is Martin's first FM game and hes already doing AtE with le depression and being a whole ass mathematician.
"My old habit from the mod is to big brain calculate the intricate math behind the save on day 1." Why? Most of us mod players don't do it til we die or its lategame. But its literally the earlygame.

Why are you trying to bring up "muh depression?" Everyone heres kinda an introvert, or was just overwhelmed by how much FM takes, not gonna lie. But depression?

Is he trying to gain our sympathy? Why would he need to do that if he was a power role and could just prove himself eventually? Its like hes drawing a road map for his potential scum.

Sorry for being brash but I just needed to bring it up.

-vote MartinGG99

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To start with, it's definitely too early to lynch, so I would be very happy if people from the future didn't vote Martin.

I do not consider Auwt as veteran, he played literally 2 games this month. What I am try to do? Well, I can explain that later.
But you say you are trying to get informaton by random voting, and then after literally 2 posts you are retreating to safety by unvoting. Mission failure, I guess.
Also I believe I have learnt new phrase in English for that, "flip floping"? I am still unsure about it's meaning, would be happy if someone explained it to me.

Martin turns out to be interesting character and I'd like to hear his future conclusions d1 or d2 before I will consider voting/lynching him.

Also fun fact:
Imagine 2 Mafias waking up and lynching instantly Martin right now for "reasonable" reasons, saying they read only part of thread and didn't see other votes.
Because Martin is put on 3 votes right now, as far as I remember. If mafia haven't already voted him for his contribution into town play.

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Originally Posted by Dallarian

Also fun fact:
Imagine 2 Mafias waking up and lynching instantly Martin right now for "reasonable" reasons, saying they read only part of thread and didn't see other votes.
Because Martin is put on 3 votes right now, as far as I remember. If mafia haven't already voted him for his contribution into town play.

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Okay, fortunately, they can't do that. @Grakylan 's vote doesn't count, since it is in same post with "unvote". I find it a positive thing. (usually you should just vote Martin, and it would take your vote from Auwt automaticly), unless it's some way to bait me.

I am trying to make some good work with colors , do you think it works fine right now?

Also please add profile picture @Grakylan , so that we can start recognising your posts with it. I believe it's easier to pay attention to symbol/colors (I really hope my Battleship is hiting your eyes! OwO), it can add a little clearance to the game.

Same goes to
@Ash Lael

I am not trying to discredit Auwt, ofcourse he earned much from his games and is probably far above us in terms of game skill.
That's just explanation for Grakylan.

Also my answer for Martin:
I would probably choose lookout. I find it a cool invest role. I'd rather go for Investigator, but that role is not available in the setup and I find Sheriff boring.
Finding crimes, that's what I like doing.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

Zedus is not here yet.

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Well, now I am here.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

We can skip lynching people, but based on the information above, I suggest we don't. In which case, I hope we can come to a
consensus by the end of this day phase on who to lynch.

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So you want just randomly lynch someone for no reason? Maybe we should lynch you then, how do you think?

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Originally Posted by Dallarian

I forgot about two things:

First, activity:
Around half of players here are EU players, I understand that we have a lot of US/NA players and people from other time zones, so expect around 6-7 BEFORE start of game time, to be the most active period of the day (evening on EU, afternoon on NA i believe). And since day is long, we will still have enough time to discuss everything, I hope.

Secondly:

Hi all gl hf
And may the Town win.

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Yeah yeah as long as we are active that matters.

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Originally Posted by Dallarian

Good morning everyone! I hope this will be a great game, since it is first one for majority of people here.

Also I vote Auwt, to put early pressure on him, before he can start putting pressure on new players. My prevention attack.

-vote Auwt

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I've already seen this strat somewhere, do as you please, I will defend myself only near death sentence.

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Originally Posted by Ash Lael

Uh, I would like you to explain this strategy please. What info exactly do you expect to obtain from lynching Auwt?

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I'm obviously a threat for Dallarian : )

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Originally Posted by bakermir

That's a huge red flag right there with voting up a random lynch on someone who isn't even here.

I find it suspicious too.

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I appreciate your support but since its quite random no need to worry. Also you should watch out, this can be seen as 'Lets build a coalition against Dallarian the Rebel'

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Originally Posted by Grakylan

-unvote

Disregard that previous vote. Old habits from the mod where I rando for info. I shouldn't have been too hasty without reading the thread first considering I had to do stuff irl right as the game began. Whoops.

So now the question is wtf is Dallarian doing trying to rando Auwt for being a FM veteran?

Whats more concerning is this is Martin's first FM game and hes already doing AtE with le depression and being a whole ass mathematician.
"My old habit from the mod is to big brain calculate the intricate math behind the save on day 1." Why? Most of us mod players don't do it til we die or its lategame. But its literally the earlygame.

Why are you trying to bring up "muh depression?" Everyone heres kinda an introvert, or was just overwhelmed by how much FM takes, not gonna lie. But depression?

Is he trying to gain our sympathy? Why would he need to do that if he was a power role and could just prove himself eventually? Its like hes drawing a road map for his potential scum.

Sorry for being brash but I just needed to bring it up.

-vote MartinGG99

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Firstly, I wouldnt consider myself as a game veteran, played 2 games, once as a suburdinate scum where I joined D3. The second game I didnt have much impact either sadly.
I believe mathematic fact are useful to get understood early on the game, still. Could also be seen as a post trying to get our mind off something
Do not forget that this save has a great amount of Citizens. So Martin could eventually not prove himself in any other way.

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Originally Posted by Grakylan

Not to mention Dallarian trying to rando someone (mr. Auwt) who "isn't here" at all. Haven't seen a post from him so I could kinda understand wanting to force him to talk...

Maybe just wait a few more hours to see if he speaks up? He could just be busy like I was.

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I'm trying to catch up several pages, and also had to take a break ^^
As I said Dallarian is trying to intimidate me, wont fall in this open trap still : )

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Originally Posted by Dallarian

Okay, fortunately, they can't do that. @Grakylan 's vote doesn't count, since it is in same post with "unvote". I find it a positive thing. (usually you should just vote Martin, and it would take your vote from Auwt automaticly), unless it's some way to bait me.

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Anyway heavy hammering at L-2 instantly would make them susp as hell
Btw Dallarian youre pretty agressive, what's happening ?

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

So I thought of a question for all to start things:

If you were a TPR and could choose any role possible within the setup that is a TPR, what would it be?

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If i had to choose a role, I would lovely take Crier.
It's so amazing to share your thought anonymously, and no one can spam anything else (unless Judge game lol, but those are the best : D )
You can share you thoughts, and you know everyone will be listening to it.
And since Crier is town role, everyone will know that you aint a scum giving fake clue or whatsoever
Still its really hard to master.

I will try to post my thought toward each of you later in the day.
I've already got some ideas who could be what alignment/role.

MartinGG99 said a lot of "stats" to make town lynch someone. But all his arguments make no sense, although they look impressive to someone. There is only one weighty argument - the result of a d1 random lynch with a 77% chance will be the death of one of the townies. So there is NO REASON for townies be lynch-happy d1. That's why MartinGG99 is most likely evil. And he just want to kill one townie before n1 to make mafia win easier.

-vote MartinGG99

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Originally Posted by Auwt

I've already seen this strat somewhere, do as you please, I will defend myself only near death sentence.
I'm obviously a threat for Dallarian : )

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I wonder where? :wondering:
Lynch that guy, he is an obvious threat to me.

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Originally Posted by Auwt

I appreciate your support but since its quite random no need to worry. Also you should watch out, this can be seen as 'Lets build a coalition against Dallarian the Rebel'

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I am not modkilled yet, fortunately.

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Originally Posted by Auwt

Firstly, I wouldnt consider myself as a game veteran, played 2 games, once as a suburdinate scum where I joined D3. The second game I didnt have much impact either sadly.

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Auwt

As I said Dallarian is trying to intimidate me, wont fall in this open trap still : )

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I loved how someone was ready to follow my vote on you.

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Originally Posted by Auwt

Anyway heavy hammering at L-2 instantly would make them susp as hell

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We are in newbie game. I expect that weird things could happen, and that would be an interesting play. They would get targeted by us and everything would rely on their defence. Still could happen. I believe putting someone on L-2 or L-1 shouldn't be a thing until we talked with everyone here.

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Originally Posted by Auwt

Btw Dallarian youre pretty agressive, what's happening ?

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I can't rely on Power Roles to solve the game for me. I have read a few guides and there is some awesome higher entity guiding me toward ascension.
I cannot call my play aggressive, since I am not attacking anyone (maybe except some person who joined me in my voting against you).
I believe you perfectly know why I have voted you. And I got what I wanted. Now ofcourse I have no idea what to do with it, gonna wrap it in nice box and put on "information" shelf.
I am not as evil as someone, to keep my vote on them for all the day.

-unvote

Also I wonder if I can use other HTML colors than ones given by forum. Apparently I can.

@Auwt
I am aware what you are going to do soon, but give us some more time to observe first, it's an interesting situation.

Hi all I'm kinda new to this, any advice or tips?

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Originally Posted by Auwt

Yeah yeah as long as we are active that matters.
Btw Dallarian youre pretty agressive, what's happening ?

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The perfect answer would be to insert here a video (or link), but unfortunately it is against the rules, so I will just put it in a text form.

Artanis: Do not presume to lecture me about my decisions, Tal'darim.
Alarak: But. I so enjoy our exchanges.

But idk who is who here.

Do we all have 1 life from bad guys attck?

I am Helltanis I ve been summoned here to bring the hell fleet to the heavens and execute all those who oppose me and my fellow citizens so that justice may be served

@Hellstorm

FM Important threads:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post828747

New player guide: (learn here how to vote Auwt!), a lot of information how to write your posts, including voting commends.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...New-User-Guide

SuperJack's really nice thread, tips from recent players, wrote specially for us!

Very powerful, but timeconsuming tool to use: Helz guide to improving as a player.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-Communication

Also confirming someone as townie and building your play around that person probably may work. Just make sure to exclude Auwt, bakermir, Dallarian and Renegate from that list.

Well, since we're in mid of game, basicly try to win as townie. As I mentioned to you earlier, there is big attention placed on Day time speaking, and only a few power roles are in the game (who knows, we maybe have no investigative roles!).
You should be watching for behaviour patterns and who act suspiciously. I will write more on that later. Cannot spoil you everything at once.

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Originally Posted by Helltanis

Hi all I'm kinda new to this, any advice or tips?

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Do not forget there are some mentors available if you need, just ask on discord, SuperJack can give you someone to help you a bit in depth
General tips would be to play your team condition, if you townie act like a townie, if you scum... act like a townie?

Basicaly it's very similiar to -Mafia- in sc2, except day lasts 24h in real life and night also does.

@Dallarian so we are already in the middle of the game?

SuperJack's really nice thread, tips from recent players, wrote specially for us!
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...s-and-guidance

I forgot to link this one.

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Originally Posted by Helltanis

@Dallarian so we are already in the middle of the game?

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If you go to page 1, you will see timer for end of Day 1. We're in early D1 right now. Also Martin is getting lynched, and most of people haven't spoke yet.

:facepalm:

Guys, can we please stop answering Martin’s dumb question?

Okay, updated reads list:

Auwt - I’m not really sure what to make of him yet. Still want to see some more from him before I put him in a basket. Null.

Renegade - Still null, still tweaking me minorly. Definitely want to see more from this slot.

Dallarian - Town lean. Kind of an effusive, carefree style, along with some solid pro-town advice and a solvy attitude. Speaking of which,

-unvote

for now to make sure we don’t hammer early. And yes, I will get myself an avatar. Nothing solid yet but I get good feels from this slot.

MartinGG99 - Still my strongest scum read.

Helltanis - Null

Zedus - Weak town lean. Vibing with his query to Grak about if he’d volunteer to be the random lynch, it’s exactly what I said in a similar situation in game 8 (to a player who ended up mislynched town, whoops).

Grakylan - I don’t feel good about this guy. The initial ‘random’ vote (on someone who already had a vote) felt poor. The sudden about face to a much better style of play is welcome but the excuse that he, uh, forgot he was playing on forum is... weak. And he immediately jumped on a wagon that was building in a way that could be construed as opportunistic.

Really, the best thing in his favour is that he’s highly unlikely to be in a team with Martin. I don’t think scum can really afford to bus D1 with three town power roles out there, and Martin is a precarious position where he could get lynched but it’s not guaranteed. So I think it’s fairly likely that there is exactly one wolf between Grak and Martin, and if we are able to correctly identify which it is we will be able to clear the other as a bonus.

bakermir - Still my strongest town read.