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Originally Posted by Kenny

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Sheogorath

Description: You are Sheogorath, the Daedric Prince of Madness.

Night Ability: Target a player at night, causing them to suffer in random and unspeakable ways:

a) There is a 75% chance they will be given some weird feedback that has nothing to do with what happened to them
b) There is a 40% chance their night action will be randomly modified
c) There is a 20% chance their target will be changed
d) There is a 10% chance they will turn intoHaskill, your loyal servant.
e) Finally, there is a 1% chance the entire town will visit them that night.

Special Mechanics: On even nights, your role will swap to Jyggalag, and your alignment will also change to that of the opposite alignment; on odd nights, you will revert to Sheogorath.

Pertinent Rulings: You are not allowed to reroll into another role.

Attack Value: +0
Defense Value: +250

You can only die at night by being launched into the sun.

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That would be correct if we were sheogorath at start of night. We RE-ROLLED into Sheogorath if you read what I initially posted. We never swapped into Jyggsil so therefore we are still Sheogorath and still town, which leaves you as scum.

Heh, I figured you'd try to spin that filthy like to scum paint us. Makes us much more convinced that it's you.

:)

Lie*

I hate phones autocorrect ;((

I mean this really is 2v2 then, just like SSE said before. It's obvious who the scum is, we also know that Yagami and me both have veteran-like abilities. This game only isn't over because there's the option to skip and kill Haskill left. SSE would probably also just turn back to town tomorrow if he didn't lie about his role.

-unvote

Can y’all satiate your fucking bloodlust so we can have a goddamn civilized conversation what the fuck

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Originally Posted by Rylai

-unvote

Can y’all satiate your fucking bloodlust so we can have a goddamn civilized conversation what the fuck

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no u

you guys don’t seem to understand

we quite literally have no alignment and no rolecard

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Originally Posted by Squishy Squirrel Express

That would be correct if we were sheogorath at start of night. We RE-ROLLED into Sheogorath if you read what I initially posted. We never swapped into Jyggsil so therefore we are still Sheogorath and still town, which leaves you as scum.

Heh, I figured you'd try to spin that filthy like to scum paint us. Makes us much more convinced that it's you.

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Reroll happens at the start of the night. You also would be dead if that wasn't the case, as you'd be lacking the defense value without that role.

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Reroll happens at the start of the night. You also would be dead if that wasn't the case, as you'd be lacking the defense value without that role.

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Wrong it happens at the end of the night. Nice try yet again lmao. It's in the OoO as the first thing to happen at the end of the night.

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Reroll happens at the start of the night. You also would be dead if that wasn't the case, as you'd be lacking the defense value without that role.

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@Ganelon @Gandalfr
If someone rerolls into sheogoragoaftgfhgjd on an even night, do they get Sheogogoat or Jyggallypuff

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Originally Posted by Squishy Squirrel Express

Wrong it happens at the end of the night. Nice try yet again lmao. It's in the OoO as the first thing to happen at the end of the night.

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So how did you survive then? You are literally claiming right now you received a new role after you were dead from a FotY attack already?

And, like, Ganelon already said before reroll does happen before night actions in the OoO.

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Originally Posted by Kenny

And, like, Ganelon already said before reroll does happen before night actions in the OoO.

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Mhm. They do.

We re-rolled into Sheogorath. THEN the foty attacked us and we survived. The end.

If we reverted to the other role we'd be dead. So we are still sheo and still town.

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Originally Posted by Squishy Squirrel Express

Mhm. They do.

We re-rolled into Sheogorath. THEN the foty attacked us and we survived. The end.

If we reverted to the other role we'd be dead. So we are still sheo and still town.

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Like rerolling is a night action. These are executed as the night ends so all of n2 we were still an amnesiac until the OoO kicked off.

That's when we became sheo so we wouldn't of been able to transform into the other role.

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Originally Posted by Squishy Squirrel Express

Mhm. They do.

We re-rolled into Sheogorath. THEN the foty attacked us and we survived. The end.

If we reverted to the other role we'd be dead. So we are still sheo and still town.

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Exactly. Your claim is literally impossible lol.

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Originally Posted by Rylai

@Ganelon @Gandalfr
If someone rerolls into sheogoragoaftgfhgjd on an even night, do they get Sheogogoat or Jyggallypuff

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they get sheogorath

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Originally Posted by Gandalfr

they get sheogorath

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Boom shakalaka.

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Exactly. Your claim is literally impossible lol.

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Nice try though ;)

Here's the OoO again.

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Originally Posted by Gandalfr

The Gods have spoken, it has been determined that the OoO is as follows:

1. Pilot

1. Jyggalag
2. Shadow Hunter
3. Experienced Lizard Hunter
4. Oldgate Warden
5. Stalin
6. RBS 70
7. Trickster
8. Madonna
9. Adolfo Pirelli
10. Candy Collector
11. Fan of the Year
12. Mysterious Stranger
13. Veteran Hyper-Sniper
14. Shapeshifter
15. Horseman
16. El Solo Lobo
17. Cross Reality Coroner
18. Soul Ferryman
19. Proud Pro Hacker
20. Member Berry
21. Old Geezer
22. Distorted
23. Lizard
24. Representative
25. Stump
26. Venus Fly Trap
27. Blackmarket Dealer
28. Incompetent Cop
29. Water Bottle
30. Crimson Artificer
31. Axton
32. Banshee
33. Priest of Valzuun
34. Security Salesman
35. Krun Dipthorn
36. Efekannn02 The Thirsty
37. Slot Machine
38. Arsenal Magus
39. Ted Bundy
40. Pylon
41. sheepsaysmeep
42. The Great Furry Empress
43. Efekannn02 The Rocketlauncher
44. Gauldoth Half-Dead
45. Cha Cha
46. Immortal
47. Beowulf
48. Taxi Driver
49. Free Furry
50. Amnesiac
51. Sheogorath
52. Roogug
53. Adam Jensen
54. Ted Cruz
55. RNGesus
56. Lizard Grandmaster
57. Arcanist
58. Lizard Hunter
59. Auctioneer
60. Siege Commander
61. The Zodiac Killer
62. Bowsette
63. Necromancer (Magoroth)
64. Wehraboo
65. Lizard Master
66. Soul Thief
67. Wolica Ługowa
68. Hidden Demigod
69. Necromancer (Kenny)
70. Nikola Tesla's Assistant
71. Ghoul
72. Meta Knight
73. Candlehearth Brawler
74. Scumpainter Extraordinaire
75. Judge
76. Statistics Major
77. Fred
    Suppressor

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You'd be either #1 right after reroll and pilot, or you'd be #51, which would explain why you're alive but would also confirm you as scum. FotY is #12.
This proves my theory with you being the reason this game isn't over despite there being 4 dead non-towns already.

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Originally Posted by Squishy Squirrel Express

Nice colors. The thing is, we wouldn't survive like.... 6 Fan of the Year attacks if we were Lizard stuff

Also take note that N1, we were Lizard Grandmaster, which makes Lizard Hunter potentially a thing.
We are none of these roles, I'm not going to claim since all of my archonmates are AFK, but I would approve a claim by you two if you're willing to.

@Gandalfr What's up with the "EXPERT lizard hunter"? Host error or intended? No offense meant obviously, since it's a bastard game... :P

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That is an error. Their real role was Lizard Hunter. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Gandalfr

they get sheogorath

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Does their ability still trigger though? Reroll does happen other abilities in the OoO, right?

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Does their ability still trigger though? Reroll does happen other abilities in the OoO, right?

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*before other abilites

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Does their ability still trigger though? Reroll does happen other abilities in the OoO, right?

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They don't turn into Jyggalag that night, no.

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Originally Posted by Kenny

... @Ganelon Does the "Expert Lizard Hunter" reroll exactly the night any Lizard stops existing, like the Lizard Hunter role was originally designed to do? Or does it still get one ability use before the reroll?

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@Ganelon ?

takes a sip of sangria
well. i visited the squirrels last night, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Here's the OoO again.



You'd be either #1 right after reroll and pilot, or you'd be #51, which would explain why you're alive but would also confirm you as scum. FotY is #12.
This proves my theory with you being the reason this game isn't over despite there being 4 dead non-towns already.

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That's the Sheogorath ability lol. Doesn't confirm us as scum at all since we never changed alignments, only if we turn into jygg which never happened as host confirms we'd just reroll into sheo

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Originally Posted by Rylai

takes a sip of sangria
well. i visited the squirrels last night, by the way.

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Omg Mesky, you're in there!

Then town does still have hope.

-unvote

Pilot, Sheogorrath and Madonna are the only roles that even have night immunity, aren't they?

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Originally Posted by Squishy Squirrel Express

Omg Mesky, you're in there!

Then town does still have hope.

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W00t W00t

^_^

@Gandalfr can the mafia factional kill a Meta Knight, who is flying and has 2 defense?

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Originally Posted by Kenny

@Gandalfr can the mafia factional kill a Meta Knight, who is flying and has 2 defense?

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This there would in the end decide who I'll vote.
So for now it seems Sheogorrath is possible as a town role after all, a living Lizard I guess also isn't required for Efe's role flip.

But, regardless, I was acting super towny this whole game. Trying to get the game solved mechanically is 100% pro-town, trying to prevent the game from getting solved like SSE was doing early today is 100% anti-town. Turning that around and saying I'd be scumpainting by purely mechanical solving is actual scumpainting. I believe that kinda behavior, on top of blink's earlier play points a lot towards them being scum, regardless of their role being possible or not. Mine and Yagami's roles are possible as well, just being possible as an argument wouldn't make any sense.
They also said, literally, Yagami is town for meta-reasons. They haven't explained a single one of those meta-reasons. I still believe this is obvious pocketing. Yagami isn't in the slightest playing his meta, yesterday he also wasn't townread by a single player I believe. Meta-wise he is playing scummy.

So those points combined still make me believe SSE is likely scum.
The only kill they have access to is the factional kill though. I'd personally like to guess it is some high value kill, but that isn't clear.
If this factional kill couldn't have killed Mesk that'd pretty much confirm SSE as town, as none of the passively night immune roles have a way to kill Meta Knight.
That's the only situation where I'd consider Yagami as mafia to be possible.
Despite his play not fitting his town-meta throughout the entire game and all the other reasons everyone brought up before.

Honestly why can’t they both be individually scum ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by Rylai

Honestly why can’t they both be individually scum ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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This game started with a town majority according to the setup. If they both were scum we'd be dealing with 4 town vs 6 non-town.

-vote light_yagami

The council has spoken

-vote Light_Yagami

Kenny you are working so hard!

Please see stealthbomber16’s roleflip

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Originally Posted by Kenny

This game started with a town majority according to the setup. If they both were scum we'd be dealing with 4 town vs 6 non-town.

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Idk if I’m allowed to say this but ganelon says there were 5 town to start

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Originally Posted by Rylai

Idk if I’m allowed to say this but ganelon says there were 5 town to start

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THE SACRED TEXTS

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Originally Posted by Rylai

Kenny you are working so hard!

Please see stealthbomber16’s roleflip

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Candy Collector
-You're an attractive young man who stores candies in his van.
-Each day you may target any person outside of the game and add them to it.
-They will be allowed and encouraged to post in the thread from that point onwards and you may give candy to them.
-Accounts or anything game-relevant will not be given.

0 attack 1 defense

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I was thinking he was pilot who saved me and was forced to reroll before dying?

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Candy Collector
-You're an attractive young man who stores candies in his van.
-Each day you may target any person outside of the game and add them to it.
-They will be allowed and encouraged to post in the thread from that point onwards and you may give candy to them.
-Accounts or anything game-relevant will not be given.

0 attack 1 defense

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I was thinking he was pilot who saved me and was forced to reroll before dying?

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You absolute dip wad

I rerolled n1 and used my day action to invite Rylai and then invited everyone and their mother to it

-vote Light_Yagami

Efekann02:
you can vote him for me

So the FotY attack didn't go through and everyone really was killed by Efe and Yagami?

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Originally Posted by Kenny

So the FotY attack didn't go through and everyone really was killed by Efe and Yagami?

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I honestly don’t fucking know how half of us died. Foty didn’t go through because he was jailed by efemirus

I wasnt even in this game. LUL

Well then SSE could be pretty much everything though? Like he wouldn't have needed to claim a night immune role and I think he wouldn't have been attacked either? Mag told me night 1 reroll counts as unroleblockable no-visit.

Who did Efe visit apart from Zerg?

Who did Distorted and Otaku visit night 1?

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Originally Posted by Kenny

So the FotY attack didn't go through and everyone really was killed by Efe and Yagami?

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Read the lizard hunter card and assume they used all their abilities besides blackmail

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Who did Efe visit apart from Zerg?

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Visited stealthbomber n2 and Distorted n1

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Well then SSE could be pretty much everything though? Like he wouldn't have needed to claim a night immune role and I think he wouldn't have been attacked either? Mag told me night 1 reroll counts as unroleblockable no-visit.

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But we were attacked...

If it wasn't the FOTY then who the hell was it that attacked us? The mafia?

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Originally Posted by Kenny

Who did Distorted and Otaku visit night 1?

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i don't really know why I asked this, they didn't visit anyone, right
noone got dragged into otaku's town and distorted was necromancer
ok