S-FM 308: Mallow's Anti-Vaxxing Crusade

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

no fuck reading im gonna sheep baker because he's a bro

-vote marshmallow marshall

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thanks bro

i will admit something to you, i wanted to vote ren for luls but you beat me to it. so i went for zedus instead :weed:

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Originally Posted by Zedus

Offtopic.
I have won "Best Screenplay" at Mitta Film Festival.
Party in my house tonight :)

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thats impressive
congratulations zedus

what was the movie about?

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

I'm not sure about FM rules for the site, but it has occurred to me that using an editable signature in gameplay may be a way to circumvent "editing posts". Please don't edit your signatures further for gameplay

Also just a quick reminder of this rule for the game:



Not singling anyone out, just wanna make sure things don't get outta control Sweaty

And I know "shut up banana, you're one to talk" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just don't want this game to be the cause of controversy, we've had a lot lately

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@BananaCucho

can I remove my signature? everybody saw what it was, I prefer not to use signatures anyway

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Originally Posted by Renegade

https://i.imgur.com/qdAo360.jpg

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LOL

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Originally Posted by bakermir

@BananaCucho

can I remove my signature? everybody saw what it was, I prefer not to use signatures anyway

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Yeah of course, make all the non-game related edits you want

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Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Yeah of course, make all the non-game related edits you want

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thanks banana

@Frinckles

I will be very sad if you become antivax tomorrow ;(

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Originally Posted by bakermir

@Frinckles

I will be very sad if you become antivax tomorrow ;(

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some asshole probably will hit me anyway. and then ill explode. for some reason

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Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Tis be alright :P let me reexplain. Here are the quotes if you want to see what I was saying/if you want proof:

Spoiler : quotes :

Basically:
- You say something that implies (in my eyes at least) you agree with DM that Bakermir has been SB-hunting because he said he "thought Zedus was a concerned parent".

- I point it out and ask why you think Bakermir doing that points at him having the intent of SB-hunting. This is the question I originally wanted answered.
- You say "I stated clearly idk why he was doing it. Strike one for squishy so far".
- I then refocus the discussion, saying that you said he had SB-hunted, and that this is what I was discussing, instead of discussing the reasons behind him supposedly SB-hunting. In other words, I asked you why you thought that meant he was SB-hunting (and if you actually thought that, hence why I'm asking if you retract it), not what you thought him supposedly SB-hunting means about his alignment.
- You then say "Retracting that I thought he wasn't SB hunting? No?", which is the exact opposite of what I asked lol, and you also say "I think your trying to confuse me aren't you".
- I ask for clarification in #618 and say that I'm retracting my townread on you because all of this is really weird.

The rest is uh, history. @AIVION

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I'm uh... Probably gonna touch more on that later on my computer as I can probably pull out posts and such that may help possibly.

Til then I can see the frustration in my flip flopping xD

Bakermir is here UwU

Try to uh... Ignore some of the earler stuff I was very emotional earlier ;-;

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

some asshole probably will hit me anyway. and then ill explode. for some reason

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Grenade <3

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

some asshole probably will hit me anyway. and then ill explode. for some reason

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Just Saiyan...

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Originally Posted by AIVION

Bakermir is here UwU

Try to uh... Ignore some of the earler stuff I was very emotional earlier ;-;

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/hug

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Originally Posted by bakermir

/hug

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https://media.tenor.com/images/0ab5c...cd23/tenor.gif

:)

What does Bakermir think about the Zedus push today?

You think it's possible for him to be scum here?

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Originally Posted by AIVION

I'm uh... Probably gonna touch more on that later on my computer as I can probably pull out posts and such that may help possibly.

Til then I can see the frustration in my flip flopping xD

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all fine.

i just don't understand this whole bakermir SB hunting stuff coming from you.

zedus is wrong with it but at least he shows where he thinks I did that.

If you mean the same quoted part Zedus shown earlier, then it was just my reaction to DM.

I will elaborate on that; I believe DM wasn't innocent when he sheeped Zedus and called him SB and scumread Renegade, putting them on L-2 in the end.

i don't see why you and zedus get disturbed by this. I only provided a different perspective to DM's world because seeing the lack of explanation behind his thoughts it made me feel suspicious of them.

so, I never pointed fingers at anyone, only voiced my concerns.

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Originally Posted by bakermir

all fine.

i just don't understand this whole bakermir SB hunting stuff coming from you.

zedus is wrong with it but at least he shows where he thinks I did that.

If you mean the same quoted part Zedus shown earlier, then it was just my reaction to DM.

I will elaborate on that; I believe DM wasn't innocent when he sheeped Zedus and called him SB and scumread Renegade, putting them on L-2 in the end.

i don't see why you and zedus get disturbed by this. I only provided a different perspective to DM's world because seeing the lack of explanation behind his thoughts it made me feel suspicious of them.

so, I never pointed fingers at anyone, only voiced my concerns.

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That's where the confusion aroused from MM: I never scum read you for it

I merely pointed it out and found it strange then decided it's because of you being a mod player (the post where I said idk if its NAI or not)

So ya I guess thats what confused him/me

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Originally Posted by AIVION

That's where the confusion aroused from MM: I never scum read you for it

I merely pointed it out and found it strange then decided it's because of you being a mod player (the post where I said idk if its NAI or not)

So ya I guess thats what confused him/me

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That's literally all I really thought in the Matter honestly

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Originally Posted by bakermir

all fine.

i just don't understand this whole bakermir SB hunting stuff coming from you.

zedus is wrong with it but at least he shows where he thinks I did that.

If you mean the same quoted part Zedus shown earlier, then it was just my reaction to DM.

I will elaborate on that; I believe DM wasn't innocent when he sheeped Zedus and called him SB and scumread Renegade, putting them on L-2 in the end.

i don't see why you and zedus get disturbed by this. I only provided a different perspective to DM's world because seeing the lack of explanation behind his thoughts it made me feel suspicious of them.

so, I never pointed fingers at anyone, only voiced my concerns.

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Oh and I should add your thoughts on this matter is a huge clarification too~

I just personally wanna drop it and move on in the game lol

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Originally Posted by bakermir

thats impressive
congratulations zedus

what was the movie about?

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Thanks! Town fantasy thriller. English subs soon, I will show you (and others) after it will be ready.

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Originally Posted by AIVION

That's where the confusion aroused from MM: I never scum read you for it

I merely pointed it out and found it strange then decided it's because of you being a mod player (the post where I said idk if its NAI or not)

So ya I guess thats what confused him/me

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oh yea I do have a problem with sniffing people way too much but it really is what I did every single game and I guess you are right on calling it NAI

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Originally Posted by AIVION

What does Bakermir think about the Zedus push today?

You think it's possible for him to be scum here?

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Do you mean the thunderdome between mike and zedus?

Well considering the antivax mechanics;

It can only work if we lynch both of them D1 and D2 otherwise I don't see any gain from it.

Well, I think lynching Mike or Renegade will be good. First one playing anti-town and trying to destroy victory plan. Second one is scummy and dumb.

I see no reason to lynch MM at the moment.

As for Bakermir, well, I can vote him, but reasons for that will be very weak. As weak as for voting DM. There is nothing anti-town in their actions, just some missunderstanding maybe.

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Originally Posted by bakermir

Do you mean the thunderdome between mike and zedus?

Well considering the antivax mechanics;

It can only work if we lynch both of them D1 and D2 otherwise I don't see any gain from it.

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No I mean the huge push lead by MM and his theories on zedus

MM is the right lynch today if we want to protect SB, just sayin

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Originally Posted by bakermir

MM is the right lynch today if we want to protect SB, just sayin

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Huh

I'm okay with an MM lynch, just don't let Zebus's 'loud' 'plans' convince you he is town. He calls me scum for no reason, likely wants to eliminate a player known to scrutinize him. Notice he doesn't scrutinize anything I say, just says "BUUUT U SCUMM".

And we aren't even moving forward with Zebus's plans. Plan 1 / C was devised by barkermire.

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Originally Posted by AIVION

No I mean the huge push lead by MM and his theories on zedus

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#725


we lynch MM today, reasons are:


1. MM = MM cmon :tf:
2. Meme potential
3. possibly protect SB from being discovered by scum via moving the entire towns vote on the outsider/nullread by majority of reads here


it is wifom lynch for the good of all.


this is why I keep my vote on MM because I believe the MM role can easily hide in rest of us just like SB. We can end up mislynching the SB here while trying to hunt for MM soooo, this whole game doesn't really look good because scum can easily read what people think of each other, look at votes and other things. scum can easily create a SB pool at this point because the scum knows exactly who the scum are.


I only propose MM lynch optional if we decide to not entertain mike vs zedus thunderdome or some other name where most of us scumread or suspect the same person

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Originally Posted by AIVION

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Huh

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it was a joke on the setup ;/

ok, I might have been not clear;


I parked my vote on MM because i didn't wanna put anyone in danger or cause issues.


MM did provide good insight to me this game so I appreciate him personally but I don't know if pushing for a Zedus lynch is the smartest idea here.

If you guys believe Zedus is scum then sure I will say "fuck it" and hammer him but then tomorrow I will be on MM's and Mike's neck.

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Originally Posted by bakermir

it was a joke on the setup ;/

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I think I'm the only one who has actively tried to discern between "the MM" and "MM" in my posts. I'm not perfect but I think I've done the best job here if I may say so myself.

I won't be surprised if this game has been a mind!@#$ for MM whenever someone says MM or MM.

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Originally Posted by bakermir

ok, I might have been not clear;


I parked my vote on MM because i didn't wanna put anyone in danger or cause issues.


MM did provide good insight to me this game so I appreciate him personally but I don't know if pushing for a Zedus lynch is the smartest idea here.

If you guys believe Zedus is scum then sure I will say "fuck it" and hammer him but then tomorrow I will be on MM's and Mike's neck.

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Preety much the exact same stance here.

Except I probably won't be on MM's neck unless its necessary.

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Originally Posted by bakermir

MM did provide good insight to me this game so I appreciate him personally but I don't know if pushing for a Zedus lynch is the smartest idea here.

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So you think playing anti-town and against the plan we all (except dumbs) accepted is more smart?

There is no real reason to lynch MM, sorry.

Btw after my questions and MM's questions Mike dissapears.

I bet that he will not answer again. And start this unreasonable and annoying "plan will not work" shit again with no any explainations.

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

Preety much the exact same stance here.

Except I probably won't be on MM's neck unless its necessary.

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my bad, you are right actually. I don't even see MM's vote on zedus lol

IDK what Aivion meant by "No I mean the huge push lead by MM and his theories on zedus"

honestly, i didnt even read the past two pages properly. I think I will have to do that

Plan reminder, before I go to sleep soon.

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Originally Posted by Zedus

Well, we have the plan, solving this setup just by mechanics, so it works. Some dumb persons continue shittalking about "the plan will not work", but noone of them can explain why. Because it works. And the plan is.

1. Select some player in public. Let call them player X.
2. Lynch someone. Safe lynch will be some citizen, sacrificing himself or someone, who refusing the plan.
3. SB following the plan and visit X at night.
4. If SB dies, X is scum. We lynching X. GG, town wins.
5. If noone dies, X is confirmed forever citizen with permanent immunity for scum convertion. Now we can select another player and loop this cycle.
6. Day 3 we will have 2 confirmed immune citizens and evils will never get majority. Others needs just to vote with them to win. SB can optionaly reveal, like in plan B, or continue following public decision until he will die.


We called this plan C. And X is AIVION now. This plan solving the game, and everyone who said "this will not works" without detail explaination is dumb or, more likely, scum.
It's doesn't matter if we visit and kill anti-vaxxer. It will just delay town victory for 1 day, and scum cannot every time guess the next target. We can just use randomizer to select X d2, for example.

But there is only one weak point in this plan:

If X is SB.

After we selected X in public, we cannot know if X is SB, and X cannot say "hey, select someone else, I am SB and I cannot visit myself". SB must act at night, so SB have to select another target, not publicaly selected. And we can have bad result:

d1. Let's check AIVION!
d2. AIVION dies and flips SB. Oooops....

AIVION is just an example, this can happens with every player as X.

The solution I see is that X will follow plan B.

d1.
Everyone: SB checking X tonight.
X: But if I am SB, I checking Y.
Everyone: Roger!

d2.a. Noone dies. That means X is 100% confirmed. X can be SB (and Y is confirmed too if so) or immune citizen.
d2.b. Someone, but not X, dies. That means X is scum. Town wins.
d2.c. X dies. That means Y is scum. Town wins.

All we need is remember the Y list for every X player. So, if one of the X-es will die, we will know who is his Y, and Y will be confirmed for us.

Now the plan is perfect.

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AIVION said she will visit Mike. But if we lynching Mike, I asked her to visit Bakermir (that was her original plan).

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Originally Posted by bakermir

my bad, you are right actually. I don't even see MM's vote on zedus lol

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Because he removed it.https://www.rcis.co.za/wp-content/upl...ge_thumb10.png

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Originally Posted by bakermir

my bad, you are right actually. I don't even see MM's vote on zedus lol

IDK what Aivion meant by "No I mean the huge push lead by MM and his theories on zedus"

honestly, i didnt even read the past two pages properly. I think I will have to do that

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You really should :/

How do people who haven't commented on it feel about a DM lynch?

I think the best solution here is to eliminate Ganelon for his shady plays and overall lurking.

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Originally Posted by Renegade

I think the best solution here is to eliminate Ganelon for his shady plays and overall lurking.

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ffs we've had Zedus vs Renegade we don't need another Ganelon vs. Renegade as well

Man what the hell were you guys on last night

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Originally Posted by MartinGG99

ffs we've had Zedus vs Renegade we don't need another Ganelon vs. Renegade as well

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just respect his 0-post play style

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Originally Posted by Renegade

I think the best solution here is to eliminate Ganelon for his shady plays and overall lurking.

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-vote Renegade

Did I spell Ganelon's name right? :p

I was gonna say MM's pushes felt artificial and was gonna vote him but I apparently voted him yesterday drunk or something. Hot damn I'm a genius.

Well, maybe not. Hm.

Who is trying to fool everyone?

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Originally Posted by AIVION

You really should :/

How do people who haven't commented on it feel about a DM lynch?

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ok i have reread it all

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Originally Posted by AIVION

What does Bakermir think about the Zedus push today?

You think it's possible for him to be scum here?

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and I still don't understand what you mean here :|

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

Well, maybe not. Hm.

Who is trying to fool everyone?

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No idea.... :/

I'm having a hard time of it right now.

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Originally Posted by bakermir

ok i have reread it all



and I still don't understand what you mean here :|

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You didn't see MM push on Zedus and Renegade did as well?

Do you agree with it? Disagree?

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Originally Posted by AIVION

No idea.... :/

I'm having a hard time of it right now.

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The four people I have not marked 100% green today are MM, Mike, Ren, Martin.

You'll probably be checked/killed or whatever so you're fine.
I doubt DM would lurk like this as scum.
Zedus has effortposted into my heart.
Bakermir is a bro.