even if u were healed by doc, u'd have to be roleblocked. so that gun is basically useless uwu
I don't know where you got that bit about being roleblocked if healed by doc, it doesn't say that anywhere in the setup
June 12th, 2020, 05:57 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
i doubt you'll be able to shoot mac, so i think it's better to lynch him. if we don't lynch mac, then it's auwt or gane (in that order).
June 12th, 2020, 06:00 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I don't know where you got that bit about being roleblocked if healed by doc, it doesn't say that anywhere in the setup
wtf, guess i'm blind. i said doctor also roleblocks on day 1 too:
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
honestly, claiming to be PR on day 1 is a big yikes. if doctor visits you, you'll be saved but you'll also be roleblocked. +scumpoints for you
UWU
anyways, the probability of a doctor in this setup isn't super high since there are so many other power roles in this setup that have an equal chance of being selected. so i still think lynching is a better idea
June 12th, 2020, 06:01 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
i doubt you'll be able to shoot mac, so i think it's better to lynch him. if we don't lynch mac, then it's auwt or gane (in that order).
Nah I don't think it's auwt.
He gives me noob civi town vibes, somewhat interested, but invested enough to put in some effort than piss off for a while, reminds me of how I would play civi back in the day.
June 12th, 2020, 06:02 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
make this slot talk or lynch him ._.
-vote macdougall
i get the feeling scum!mac is massively trolling us by not checking the thread and pm'ing AIVI who to kill. he could be in discord with wisp and wisp might've told him to kill me. he could also be watching this thread as a guest. if so, that'd be a 900 iq play lmao.
if he's a citizen, then i don't think more ppl should claim.
i love how there were 3 members and 1 guest watching this thread when i made this thread. now there are 3 members and 0 guests.
UWUUWU UWU
OWO OWOOWO
June 12th, 2020, 06:03 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
if
@macdougall
doesn't post, or isn't modkilled or replaced. I'm probably gonna shoot him tonight
June 12th, 2020, 06:03 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
if
@macdougall
doesn't post, or isn't modkilled or replaced. I'm probably gonna shoot him tonight
Well, attempt to.
June 12th, 2020, 06:04 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Nah I don't think it's auwt.
He gives me noob civi town vibes, somewhat interested, but invested enough to put in some effort than piss off for a while, reminds me of how I would play civi back in the day.
i'm sort of okay with a gane lynch too. he's not far behind auwt in terms of "scumminess."
June 12th, 2020, 06:07 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
gyrl said "my posts have no value" so i posted less lol. overall, this game isn't super active.
however, gane thinks i am scum. this may have to do with my lack of activity in this game. i've been limiting myself on purpose because i didn't want to clog the thread, but that also prevented me from fully explaining my thought processes. from now on, i'll post all of my thoughts. who cares if i post 69x time more than all of u combined!!!!
June 12th, 2020, 06:08 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
gyrl said "my posts have no value" so i posted less lol. overall, this game isn't super active.
however, gane thinks i am scum. this may have to do with my lack of activity in this game. i've been limiting myself on purpose because i didn't want to clog the thread, but that also prevented me from fully explaining my thought processes. from now on, i'll post all of my thoughts. who cares if i post 69x time more than all of u combined!!!!
posting is good
that's what I do, unlike SOME PEOPLE
June 12th, 2020, 06:10 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
posting is good
that's what I do, unlike SOME PEOPLE
maybe posting more will force others to post more too just so there isn't such a high post discrepancy. overall, this should be good for town.
June 12th, 2020, 06:12 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
maybe posting more will force others to post more too just so there isn't such a high post discrepancy. overall, this should be good for town.
Well the more posts there are, the more posts there are to respond to and have thoughts about
the more thoughts about the game the more posts
It's a self-sustaining loop, hence why I was irritated that for the first eight hours of the first day there were like, 40 posts
June 12th, 2020, 06:13 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
maybe posting more will force others to post more too just so there isn't such a high post discrepancy. overall, this should be good for town.
also, auwt is the lowest poster. besides that, everyone else has posted about the same amount:
like, i think everyone who posted so far is townie for their own reasons. i only put gane and auwt as my next lynch targets because they were the "scummiest" based on what i've seen from them so far.
June 12th, 2020, 06:18 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
if no one that gets pushed claims citizen, we need the other citizen to claim by EOD. that way we'll know for sure if varc is citizen or not.
every game needs a 10 post minimum for each day phase. plsssssssssss implement this change. uwu
mac hasn't posted yet and it's day 2
of course, there can be exceptions to this rule, which can easily be discussed with the setup reviewer.
June 12th, 2020, 07:12 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
if
@macdougall
doesn't post, or isn't modkilled or replaced. I'm probably gonna shoot him tonight
Aight I'm here. Sorry I actually didn't know I was signed up to this game. I actually didn't sign up Ceko just put me in lol.
June 12th, 2020, 07:15 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
Aight I'm here. Sorry I actually didn't know I was signed up to this game. I actually didn't sign up Ceko just put me in lol.
I uh,
Huh.
Do you want to be here?
June 12th, 2020, 07:18 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I uh,
Huh.
Do you want to be here?
I'm not asking this to be mean or anything, this is a genuine question
June 12th, 2020, 07:21 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
I would have rathered not be signed up to this game. I did sign up to the thread to play a game but I wasn't ready to be in one because I am playing in several others atm.
But here we are.
At any rate I'm so far behind it's probably best if I just claim and try to inno child or something so I'm a patriot chemist and I successfully poisoned ganelon. I got pinged in the middle of the night hence sending in my role action. It's 12.20pm where I am atm so I only just bothered checking in hence being absent so long at the beginning of the day. I poisoned ganelon on a whim because of the eod posts making it seem like he was pretty hardcore defending Wiisp. I've read a bit of this day and I see he's claimed and I imagine I've poisoned town. c'est la vie.
June 12th, 2020, 07:22 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
"sign up to the forum" not thread.
June 12th, 2020, 07:23 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
If someone can give me some cliffs/things to analyse or whatever that'd be dope.
June 12th, 2020, 07:26 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
If someone can give me some cliffs/things to analyse or whatever that'd be dope.
Right now we're trying to analyze varcron vs ganelon, specifically their interaction near EoD yesterday
June 12th, 2020, 07:36 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Okay, so keeping track of the claims so far.
Varcron: Citizen claimed d1
Ceko: Coward, claimed d2, hid behind gyrlander n1
Auwt: unclaimed
Myself: unclaimed, received gun n1
Ganelon: Gunsmith, claimed to give me a gun
Macdougall: Chemist, claimed to target Ganelon
Gyrlander: Citizen, flipped n1
Wiisp: flipped scum investigator d1
Keep in mind that the role list says Hidden Patriot, not Town Power Role, or Patriot Power Role.
That being said, I am claiming Tracker, I targeted Auwt last night because I was the most unsure about his alignment more than anyone else, turns out, they didn't visit anyone, so I've been assuming they are a Citizen, I softed my role earlier and softed my feedback as well earlier.
Here's my shite LW
Spoiler : Last Will :
I re-read the thread last night and posted some of my thoughts about some posts that stood out to me. Also, I died, rip. Oh, and in-case I get janitor'd or tailor'd I am in-fact a Tracker, which is party why I didn't take my vote off of wiisp after they claimed.
#110
Lmao, guess we ain't gotta worry about that.
#218
Well clearly you haven't changed that, and you didn't seem to listen to my posts trying to get you to stop tunneling and read other peoples posts.
#225
I like this post, it's a surprisingly amount of self-awareness that I really enjoy, also it mimics what I've been trying to hammer into the heads of players since I came back, so I'm glad to see it here :)
#289
I really don't like this post from ganelon, it's the beginning of a shitty tunnel that I honestly can't even tell where it comes from, also this tunnel is formed AFTER wiisp claims, could be some form of distraction?
#298
Honestly I don't even know if I should consider anything ganelon says seriously past this point, I'm not very comfortable with this level of paranoia and speculation, I can understand how it can come from a town!pov, but also how this defense and distraction could be detrived from a scum!pov
Ganelon stops making any amount of sense for the rest of the day with this post.
#359
My breadcrumb, "Trackable Trail" while discussing breadcrumbs, Flip = Tracker, eh? eh?
This is my first attempt at a crumb don't be mad :(
#408
I cannot believe I missed this post, Varcron claimed????? I didn't even realize lmao.
#442
Something about auwt has just rubbed me the wrong way the entire game.
Sorry it's a shitty reread, but these posts came out to me as interesting, and sometimes I'm good at figuring out why these posts pop to me, and sometimes I'm not, thought I'd try to bring some attention to them regardless.
Right now I'm trying to decide between checking Ganelon and Auwt.
Ganelon is a hard town/scum depending on how he starts off day 2, Auwt is more of a mystery to me.
I like Varcron, and Ceko; Gyrlander I just fail to read because he townhunts instead of scumhunts.
Obviously we also have a dead slot which I can't read because, you know, they haven't posted. I'm tracking Auwt tonight. Someone else is going to try to solve Ganelon, either by killing him, trying to invest him, or just reading him, he has a lot of information that he presented that can be analyzed and sifted through. Auwt is more low-profile, and tracking them could reveal more information.
June 12th, 2020, 07:39 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Right now we're trying to analyze varcron vs ganelon, specifically their interaction near EoD yesterday
Well this was why I poisoned him. But his reaction after day start to go nuts at varcron was pretty townie.
June 12th, 2020, 07:39 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
How do you vote here?
June 12th, 2020, 07:42 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Here's my low effort crumbs, I put a lot of emphasis on using words like tracking and trailing, and I deliberately called auwt town and citizen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
That's such a shite low effort crumb. Ya really gotta leave a trackable trail to show off later
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I like you, I like the way you trailed through the posts yesterday, it's similar to how I did it, you just put in a lot more effort towards it :P
You're a townie
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I should keep track of these claims
Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Nah I don't think it's auwt.
He gives me noob civi town vibes, somewhat interested, but invested enough to put in some effort than piss off for a while, reminds me of how I would play civi back in the day.
June 12th, 2020, 07:43 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
How do you vote here?
We use the tags [vote]INSERT PLAYER NAME HERE[\vote]
Just switch that "\" with an "/"
June 12th, 2020, 07:46 PM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
I successfully poisoned ganelon.
Wait, doesn't this mean Ganelon should've gotten "Poisoned" feedback :thinking:
Town wouldn't let people waste time on them by not claiming to be poisoned, right?
June 12th, 2020, 07:55 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
well if Ganelon is the last mafia he also probably just concedes so...
June 12th, 2020, 07:57 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
-vote auwt
June 12th, 2020, 07:59 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
I would have rathered not be signed up to this game. I did sign up to the thread to play a game but I wasn't ready to be in one because I am playing in several others atm.
But here we are.
At any rate I'm so far behind it's probably best if I just claim and try to inno child or something so I'm a patriot chemist and I successfully poisoned ganelon. I got pinged in the middle of the night hence sending in my role action. It's 12.20pm where I am atm so I only just bothered checking in hence being absent so long at the beginning of the day. I poisoned ganelon on a whim because of the eod posts making it seem like he was pretty hardcore defending Wiisp. I've read a bit of this day and I see he's claimed and I imagine I've poisoned town. c'est la vie.
sorry for signing you up UWU. i thought for sure you wanted to play this particular game, and you already went thru so much just to register. so i just told MM to sign you up to spare u that extra step lol
why does mac's profile show that he hasn't read ANY posts? do profiles not show which posts get read in an FM?
June 12th, 2020, 08:06 PM
macdougall
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
all good ceko no worries mate
June 12th, 2020, 08:08 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
all good ceko no worries mate
noU!!uwu
June 12th, 2020, 08:09 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by macdougall
-vote auwt
auwt is basically confirmed citizen at this point lol. RREEEEEEEEEE!!!!
June 12th, 2020, 08:11 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
scum is within the PRs, and rn mac and gane r the most sus. mac hasn't convinced me he's town. i rly like how DW put gane as hard town/scum, cuz that's also how i feel about him rn
June 12th, 2020, 08:20 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
i didn't clear auwt for his wall at first because it purely consisted of facts (i.e. scumreading gane and DW simply bc they were wisp's townreads). he did something similar last game as scum by posting a wall that analyzed VCA. so i thought it was possible for scum!auwt to deliberately take a simpler approach to attack gane & DW.
regardless, he's a confirmed citizen so im def not lynching him today uwu. i also rly like his approach to the game. i'm not even exaggerating to flatter you like i did previously OWO!!!
June 12th, 2020, 08:22 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
i'm ok with lynching gane since mac is brand-new lol. altho i rly think mac is scummier uwu. i'll give mac time to catch up (idk if he ever fully will) before committing to a lynch.
June 12th, 2020, 08:28 PM
theoneceko
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
i'm ok with lynching gane since mac is brand-new lol. altho i rly think mac is scummier uwu. i'll give mac time to catch up (idk if he ever fully will) before committing to a lynch.
honestly, that sounds kinda cringe. why not treat mac as one of our reg members and just lynch him rn? i'd HATE to be fawned over bc im new to a site lmao. if he wants to win in our next FM, then he can do that right after he flips SCUM!!!
our site's pretty intense (@BananaCucho), so that's something u'll need to get used to quickly if u wanna keep playing lol
June 12th, 2020, 11:50 PM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Are you fucking serious? I got poisoned by an AFK?
June 12th, 2020, 11:51 PM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Man just lynch me
June 12th, 2020, 11:57 PM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
I confirm being poisoned. Man dying at the hands of a player who didn’t even post fucking sucks
June 12th, 2020, 11:58 PM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
i'm ok with lynching gane since mac is brand-new lol. altho i rly think mac is scummier uwu. i'll give mac time to catch up (idk if he ever fully will) before committing to a lynch.
Yiu really think scum would openly claim poisoned like that?
June 12th, 2020, 11:58 PM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Err, POISONER.
June 13th, 2020, 12:11 AM
Ganelon
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Anyway, I stand by my position. Varcron should be our lynch today, followed by Ceko and Auwt. I seriously doubt poisoner would claim as scum.
June 13th, 2020, 01:16 AM
Auwt
Re : Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
what contradictions lol. UWU
I believe at this time Varcron didnt know if Ganelon was scum or not.
June 13th, 2020, 01:20 AM
Auwt
Re : Re: Re : S-FM Standoff Ongoing
Quote:
Originally Posted by theoneceko
didn't u just contradict yourself here?
When I wrote this post, I thought that a Ceko, DW, Varcron train was just made probably from 1 or 2 scum(s) and then gathered 1-2 townies with them.
I believe when a game is on the early stage : Scum can easily try to lure 1 or 2 town votes
June 13th, 2020, 01:26 AM
deathworlds
Re: S-FM Standoff Ongoing
I uh, think this game is solved.
Ganelon is poisoned, he's already dead, there's no point to voting him anymore.
If he's scum, we just win at EoD, whoopie.
If he's TPR, then that means that either Macdougall is lying, or ceko is lying (from my PoV)
Auwt is confirmed town from my PoV, because he didn't visit anyone last night, and scum obviously visited someone (ceko/gyrlander). There's 4 TPR claims, 1 citizen claim, and Auwt (who I believe is the last citizen).
Varcron hasn't been CC'd, so I'm going to say that he's in-fact citizen.
So here's what the role list looks like so far.
Varcron-Citizen
Auwt- Citizen
Myself- Tracker
Gyrlander-Citizen DEAD
Wiisp - Investigator DEAD
Ceko- Coward
Ganelon- Gunsmith/Blacksmith
macdougall - Chemist
from my PoV, the last scum is between Ceko, Ganelon, and Macdougall. Ganelon is a mute point, since he's already dead.
So it's between Ceko and Macdougall. Mechanically, the safest bet is to lynch ceko, and for me to attempt to shoot macdougall.
Ceko is a begulier, so trying to shoot him is a dumb ass idea. If I attempt to shoot macdougall, and I die, macdougall is the last TPR claim left, and because he's a poisoner, his other victim (varcron or auwt) won't die until the day is over, giving them the opportunity to lynch macdougall. If I live, and macdougall dies, then well, you just lynch me. Two townies left vs a single confirmed scum, regardless of who lives in this scenario.
Here's what the role list looks like at EoD (assuming ceko is lynched and the game doesn't immediately end with either of their deaths)
Varcron - Cit
Auwt - Cit
Myself - Tracker
Macdougall - Chemist.
If this is the case, then Macdougall has 1 factional kill, and 1 poisoner kill.
I have a gun, so Macdougall is obliged to use the factional kill on me. Gun doesn't go through (thanks again ganelon for telling everyone I have a gun bro, real pro town of you, assuming you are town :P), and 1 kill happens at night, me.
Day Start
Varcron - Cit
Auwt - Cit
Macdougall - Poisoner.
Auwt and Varcron team up and lynch Macdougall, Macdougall gets lynched, varcron or auwt die from food poisoning, leaving 1 townie as the sole survivor. gg ez.
We could just lynch Macdougall instead, but that's riskier.
Ceko is effectively immune to the gun. If I were to shoot him, he would just redirect it onto someone else, he'd factional kill me or the other player left, and we'd lose.
If I were NOT to shoot, then ceko kills someone else forcing a 1v1 between me and ceko at LYLO, which isn't fun.