S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jan Korvin

What the hell did I miss? Please elaborate.

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I think we both missed it... or that there was nothing to miss. Leaning towards the second option.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

I don't think he's a newbie, he's way too overconfident and aggressive for that. He looks more like an evil experienced eagle. Not the kind of bird I want into the bird core.
The night kill part is indeed weird, but the rest is reaching lol

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I agree it is a bit of a stretch, however you can see where I am going with that sort of inferring.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

So uh, tell me, why is he scummy? I don't really get what your case against him is.

*"You're so dumb" incoming*

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1] I like your energy but it would be better put to use figuring out a strategy. It feels like you don't even know why you post what you post. Posting for postings sake. But again, I really like your energy, I think you are Town, and thanks for keeping your posts advancing the game.

2] Do you like me? Do you think I'm pretty? :) but for real if you wajt my attention so much, why? I don't get it.

3] To answer your question - read the thread - he slipped something Mafia say +90% of the time and Town say less than 10% of the time. I can see you're not caught up, but spending time answering you just adds to clutter the thread. In any event I hope this helps lay it out. Jiles is outted Mafia.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

Interesting response.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo View Post


Got one

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

Heck

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo

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#126 to #129 for all of those curious.

like, it's not even a question at this stage.

WHEN Jiles flips mafia you can look back at this and go:
"Oh, Lois got a Mafia in N0 before half the thread checked in."

Names should've been Initial and Last name, full names are too long. Kind of like in Alien, everyone was known by their last name. Ripley, Dallas, Parker, Brett, Ian Holme, John Hurt, etc etc.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Marlwyn Janson

Excuse me Mister Cage, this is a flipless setup.

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just the role is flipless right? Alignment should still show I think.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

1] I like your energy but it would be better put to use figuring out a strategy. It feels like you don't even know why you post what you post. Posting for postings sake. But again, I really like your energy, I think you are Town, and thanks for keeping your posts advancing the game.

2] Do you like me? Do you think I'm pretty? :) but for real if you wajt my attention so much, why? I don't get it.

3] To answer your question - read the thread - he slipped something Mafia say +90% of the time and Town say less than 10% of the time. I can see you're not caught up, but spending time answering you just adds to clutter the thread. In any event I hope this helps lay it out. Jiles is outted Mafia.

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Cluttering the thread by explaining something nobody but you agrees on is something I'm ready to do, and something you should be ready to do, too.

That's a very meaningful way to clutter it. Right now, you're calling someone confirmed scum, and the consensus seems to be that it's on the basis of the word "interesting". Which is just crap. So, again, explain yourself.

-vote S-FM Lois Francklyn

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

just the role is flipless right? Alignment should still show I think.

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Originally Posted by setup

Players' role and alignment are not revealed upon death.

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quack

SPEAK OF LYNVH.

IF WE RELY ON SOULY Purity

We give MAFIA CHANCE of EASY HANG.
IF WE HAVE majority. mafia HAVE TOO PUSHING A hard for MISLYNCHS
WE BUT REKT IF we no lYNCH.

BOTH IS OPTIMUM. WHY DISAGREE?

SQUAWK

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Originally Posted by S-FM Vladislow Kennt

Names should've been Initial and Last name, full names are too long. Kind of like in Alien, everyone was known by their last name. Ripley, Dallas, Parker, Brett, Ian Holme, John Hurt, etc etc.

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Names are perfect as they are.

QUACK

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

Cluttering the thread by explaining something nobody but you agrees on is something I'm ready to do, and something you should be ready to do, too.

That's a very meaningful way to clutter it. Right now, you're calling someone confirmed scum, and the consensus seems to be that it's on the basis of the word "interesting". Which is just crap. So, again, explain yourself.

-vote S-FM Lois Francklyn

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Step 1] Confront someone who caught Mafia in N0

Step 2] Taunt them

Step 3] Vote them

Solid strategy my dude. Whatever the case, I beleive you are Town, but I'm not going to work with you. I don't think you're capable of decent honest conversation where you back up your claims. Have fun doing whatever this is.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

quack

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yeah doesn't matter, Jiles is Mafia

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

SPEAK OF LYNVH.

IF WE RELY ON SOULY Purity

We give MAFIA CHANCE of EASY HANG.
IF WE HAVE majority. mafia HAVE TOO PUSHING A hard for MISLYNCHS
WE BUT REKT IF we no lYNCH.

BOTH IS OPTIMUM. WHY DISAGREE?

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Condorcet is (roughly) plurality + majority, but with a list of reads instead of individual votes. BIRD VOTING BEST VOTING

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

Step 1] Confront someone who caught Mafia in N0

Step 2] Taunt them

Step 3] Vote them

Solid strategy my dude. Whatever the case, I beleive you are Town, but I'm not going to work with you. I don't think you're capable of decent honest conversation where you back up your claims. Have fun doing whatever this is.

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lol

Public reminder that I tried to initiate meaningful discussion and to get Lois to explain his reads. He didn't. Now he must accept the consequences and DIE. QUAAAAACK!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

Condorcet is (roughly) plurality + majority, but with a list of reads instead of individual votes. BIRD VOTING BEST VOTING

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CondorcetIS TOO COMPLICATED. I DINT GRT IT. ALDO HOE TBE FLUVK YHR VITR WIRK?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

lol

Public reminder that I tried to initiate meaningful discussion and to get Lois to explain his reads. He didn't. Now he must accept the consequences and DIE. QUAAAAACK!!!!!!

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-vote S-FM Lois Francklyn

This is obviously your first game as exec/scum to be pushing this hard D0 for town points+ mislynch.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

CondorcetIS TOO COMPLICATED. I DINT GRT IT. ALDO HOE TBE FLUVK YHR VITR WIRK?

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I get that you're going for the disguiser protection, but this is too much lol, your posts are unreadable...

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

lol

Public reminder that I tried to initiate meaningful discussion and to get Lois to explain his reads. He didn't. Now he must accept the consequences and DIE. QUAAAAACK!!!!!!

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You used vague language to convey a taunting claim.

You refused to quote any posts around which you were basing your claims.

There is no meaningful conversation to be had with someone who won't engage in goid faith.

I'll give you that I think you're Town, but I think your play is probably around 5 to 8 out of 100.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

You used vague language to convey a taunting claim.

You refused to quote any posts around which you were basing your claims.

There is no meaningful conversation to be had with someone who won't engage in goid faith.

I'll give you that I think you're Town, but I think your play is probably around 5 to 8 out of 100.

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BBUUUUURRRNNNNNNN

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

-vote S-FM Lois Francklyn

This is obviously your first game as exec/scum to be pushing this hard D0 for town points+ mislynch.

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Don't think it's his first game as anything. He looks more like the kind of player who thinks he's the Lord Almighty who can powerwolf his way to victory and spit on others.

...Or he's just town who really thinks he's God. In which case he's a goofy loser, I guess. :D

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

Don't think it's his first game as anything. He looks more like the kind of player who thinks he's the Lord Almighty who can powerwolf his way to victory and spit on others.

...Or he's just town who really thinks he's God. In which case he's a goofy loser, I guess. :D

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Right then. Either you leave or I do, but this is where I draw the line.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

Right then. Either you leave or I do, but this is where I draw the line.

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By all means you go ahead and leave so I can get some meaningful conversation other than "he's scum lol"

You still haven't answered my previous question.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

You used vague language to convey a taunting claim.

You refused to quote any posts around which you were basing your claims.

There is no meaningful conversation to be had with someone who won't engage in goid faith.

I'll give you that I think you're Town, but I think your play is probably around 5 to 8 out of 100.

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"vague language" lol, I assume next you'll say I'm using scum syntax?

Also more God syndrome

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

Lol Lois still thinks "interesting" is alignment indicative :calix:

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^^^^ you literally called Jiles confirmed scum because that one word, and you don't explain it. DIE

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

You used vague language to convey a taunting claim.

You refused to quote any posts around which you were basing your claims.

There is no meaningful conversation to be had with someone who won't engage in goid faith.

I'll give you that I think you're Town, but I think your play is probably around 5 to 8 out of 100.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

Right then. Either you leave or I do, but this is where I draw the line.

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In case you don't get the meme:

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Originally Posted by Renegade

Yes I didn't read this before my last post, but yes this x1000. God is a goofy loser.

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No personal offense meant here xD

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

In case you don't get the meme:


No personal offense meant here xD

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Why are you quoting Renegade?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

Why are you quoting Renegade?

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"God is a goofy loser"
because I think he thought I was genuinely calling him a goofy loser, which I wasn't doing

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

Right then. Either you leave or I do, but this is where I draw the line.

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0.o

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

"God is a goofy loser"
because I think he thought I was genuinely calling him a goofy loser, which I wasn't doing

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Okay, that makes sense I guess.

So Lois is basically saying you or me already? What happens Lois if we don't follow you and lynch Jiles?

I phrased that poorly.

Lois, what are you going to do if we don't follow your instruction to lynch Jiles? Whattya gonna do abouttit.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

In case you don't get the meme:


No personal offense meant here xD

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Thanks for the clarification it means a lot! I'm just not up to playing in a game that devolves into that type of play, and better to figure that out earlier than later.

Regarding the vague language, no I wasn't talking about syntax. You included the definition of aggressive with four definitions, the least offensive of which was fourth. In other words, the word was vague and taunting even if you intended for the least offensive of the definitions.

We can only come to understanding each other when we're able to see what we're each talking about, and that's impossible when you make a claim without quoting what you're talking about in the first place. Im reasonable in that I'll accept criticism and admit where I'm wrong, but you've given me king to work with even after I asked you to.

So again, I don't think yiu even realize you're playing in bad faith, but you are. That doesn't mean J think your Mafia. I tjink you are town. But your style hasn't been amazing here either. Can you see what im getting at here?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

Thanks for the clarification it means a lot! I'm just not up to playing in a game that devolves into that type of play, and better to figure that out earlier than later.

Regarding the vague language, no I wasn't talking about syntax. You included the definition of aggressive with four definitions, the least offensive of which was fourth. In other words, the word was vague and taunting even if you intended for the least offensive of the definitions.

We can only come to understanding each other when we're able to see what we're each talking about, and that's impossible when you make a claim without quoting what you're talking about in the first place. Im reasonable in that I'll accept criticism and admit where I'm wrong, but you've given me king to work with even after I asked you to.

So again, I don't think yiu even realize you're playing in bad faith, but you are. That doesn't mean J think your Mafia. I tjink you are town. But your style hasn't been amazing here either. Can you see what im getting at here?

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You've dodged my for a fair few posts now, so I'll repeat it:

What are all of your reads and why?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

You've dodged my for a fair few posts now, so I'll repeat it:

What are all of your reads and why?

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I have no reason to talk to you, ever. You're Mafia. Good game. What?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

I have no reason to talk to you, ever. You're Mafia. Good game. What?

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Ugh. I'm already exhausted from Braveheart.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

I have no reason to talk to you, ever. You're Mafia. Good game. What?

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And such meaningful discussion goes out the window even from the preacher of it.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Vladislow Kennt

Ugh. I'm already exhausted from Braveheart.

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Are you able to take away anything from this?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

I have no reason to talk to you, ever. You're Mafia. Good game. What?

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What are all of your reads and why?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Vladislow Kennt

Ugh. I'm already exhausted from Braveheart.

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I know it's repetitive, but it feels like most players think I'm joking or this isn't true or something.

I'm sorry for the broken record but it is what it is.

I'll ignore them and just focus on the rest of the game for the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

What are all of your reads and why?

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Thank you for repeating my question so he actually answers it

It's really frustrating as a town trying to get information from someone who refuses to respond in a useful way.

This is boring. SQUAWK

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

What are all of your reads and why?

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hi Arnold, why are you asking me this?

I'm happy to answer and I've already made several reads clear, so its odd that you would ask me as though you haven't read the thread or taken notes. Does that sound accurate for you so far?

It also sounds like you'd only ask this question of you doubt me or support Jiles, the Mafia. So it's really jarring to think you a old hold either of those positions. But then to actually act on it? What are you doing here? I'm legitimatelu confused.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

Thank you for repeating my question so he actually answers it

It's really frustrating as a town trying to get information from someone who refuses to respond in a useful way.

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Refusal to WORK WITH OTHERS.

is PAINFUL AND. Anti TOWN.

EVEN IF. the conclusion is you aRE MAFIA.

STILL NO REASON. To IGNORE.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

Thank you for repeating my question so he actually answers it

It's really frustrating as a town trying to get information from someone who refuses to respond in a useful way.

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What are all your reads and why?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

What are all your reads and why?

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Thanks for asking, I've been keeping track as we go.

Town Reads:
Billigan
Korvin
Lemibird
Quinne (For now)
Gollert

Neutrals:
Lois (Likely exec/Scummish)
Vlad


Null Reads
Joha
Me (Of course)
Fred
Rotholfo

Scum
Marlwyn (Scummish, closer to scum than null for me)


I have alot of null reads due to the 3 people not posting and my preference to not read myself in the table. Those in the town slots are those that have contributed a fair bit of discussion and asked meaningful questions. I personally am on the fence of just throwing the lurkers in as scum, however I do not see the need to yet. No one has acted overtly scummy apart from Marlwyn/Lois for the time being

(Lois is in the exec slot because I think he is more exec than scum)

I may have forgot someone (highly likely)

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

Thanks for asking, I've been keeping track as we go.

Town Reads:
Billigan
Korvin
Lemibird
Quinne (For now)
Gollert

Neutrals:
Lois (Likely exec/Scummish)
Vlad


Null Reads
Joha
Me (Of course)
Fred
Rotholfo

Scum
Marlwyn (Scummish, closer to scum than null for me)


I have alot of null reads due to the 3 people not posting and my preference to not read myself in the table. Those in the town slots are those that have contributed a fair bit of discussion and asked meaningful questions. I personally am on the fence of just throwing the lurkers in as scum, however I do not see the need to yet. No one has acted overtly scummy apart from Marlwyn/Lois for the time being

(Lois is in the exec slot because I think he is more exec than scum)

I may have forgot someone (highly likely)

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Anyone with () beside their names are slots that may move in time, same with the null reads.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Lois Francklyn

hi Arnold, why are you asking me this?

I'm happy to answer and I've already made several reads clear, so its odd that you would ask me as though you haven't read the thread or taken notes. Does that sound accurate for you so far?

It also sounds like you'd only ask this question of you doubt me or support Jiles, the Mafia. So it's really jarring to think you a old hold either of those positions. But then to actually act on it? What are you doing here? I'm legitimatelu confused.

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Hi Lois. I'm asking you because for those with Mental Handicaps (And the Lazy) find it difficult to cipher through 61 posts from one single slot within less than 24 hours.
So, to make it easier for many other people. It would greatly help for you to summarise your reads. Especially if you wish to make yourself a main figurehead.

It also sounnds like you'd be only making that statement if you are choosing what you want to hear. I am promoting co-operation between all people.
You may of persuaded YOURSELF that you know Jiles is Mafia. But you FAIL to persuade anyone else.
This is why you need to maintain discussion.

My main reason for existing is to bring peace upon us. Only through peace can we end war. And we can only do that by working together.

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Originally Posted by S-FM Jiles Carballo

Thanks for asking, I've been keeping track as we go.

Town Reads:
Billigan
Korvin
Lemibird
Quinne (For now)
Gollert

Neutrals:
Lois (Likely exec/Scummish)
Vlad


Null Reads
Joha
Me (Of course)
Fred
Rotholfo

Scum
Marlwyn (Scummish, closer to scum than null for me)


I have alot of null reads due to the 3 people not posting and my preference to not read myself in the table. Those in the town slots are those that have contributed a fair bit of discussion and asked meaningful questions. I personally am on the fence of just throwing the lurkers in as scum, however I do not see the need to yet. No one has acted overtly scummy apart from Marlwyn/Lois for the time being

(Lois is in the exec slot because I think he is more exec than scum)

I may have forgot someone (highly likely)

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For now? Do you internationally plan on changing it? And non of the others?

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Originally Posted by S-FM Arnarld Quinne

For now? Do you internationally plan on changing it? And non of the others?

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No, I will change the others as needed except the ones with () are more on the fence than the rest.

Sorry for poor explanation.