If sheriff and investigator are replaced for example by lookout and detective framer is useless. What about making him frame person to look like he the same person as a random mafia member visited?(Mb killer)
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If sheriff and investigator are replaced for example by lookout and detective framer is useless. What about making him frame person to look like he the same person as a random mafia member visited?(Mb killer)
From a logical point of view, it wouldn't make much sense if a framer could do that. It sounds more like something a disguiser could do.
Also, a lookout and detective are generally slightly less powerful than sheriff and investigator because they can't come to any conclusions solely based on their own information.
I find that the best way to avoid a framer in a setup with lookout and detective is to enable the option 'exclude support roles' in the Advanced Mafia category and backing it up with another Adv Mafia and/or Basic Mafia. The only other role you're missing out on that way is the Blackmailer. And let's face it, that's not such a terrible loss. The BM is probably the least useful mafia role at the moment.
This map isn't supposed to be perfectly logical.
Maybe create a new role for this? I know about the script limit issues, but it would be cool
The witch is there to mess with lookouts and detectives already.
An option to exclude Framers from randoms might be another solution to avoid having useless framers randomed into games without sheriffs/investigators.
Seems more viable than allowing them to mess with detectives and lookouts in my opinion.