* * * SC2 Mafia Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Can't prefer! https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39846 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 5th, 2017 08:57 AM Title : Can't prefer! Got a problem here. Got my 20k points but prefer ain't working. The Mothership Extended works as intended, but prefer doesn't work Tho it did on april fools(as a feature to all players). Attacking bank file and one of latest replays if matters. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 6th, 2017 09:22 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! SuperJack Unknown1234 Helz Help me please with this issue! Or i am gonna delete my bank and ask for restoration >.> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Auteur : Cryptonic Date : April 6th, 2017 12:29 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! If its due to whitelist, then i recommend not deleting your bank -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Auteur : Mesk514 Date : April 6th, 2017 01:31 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! I cannot do anything about this but ping helz. Helz. PING!!!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 8th, 2017 02:36 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! Hello? Helz PING! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Auteur : Helz Date : April 9th, 2017 11:50 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! I will work on it for you. In the past month or so I have neglected the main map to make that april fools map. Juggling school and renovating a house. What is your SCID? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 10th, 2017 08:07 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! RedRick: 1-S2-1-689689 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Auteur : Helz Date : April 10th, 2017 01:17 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! The replay shows your account ID as 1-S2-1-8541384. It is probable that you are playing on a different account. Your bank file will not automatically share between different accounts. Can you login to your first account and verify that prefer is not working on that profile? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 10th, 2017 01:45 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! hm, lemme check the id i gave you is id of my bank file that is in my documents - sc2 accounts banks blabla just entered the save slot - yes, it shows as 1-S2-1-8541384 talking about accounts - i moved to NA from EU 2-3 months ago and i dinged 20k points on NA on april fools event so basically, i am sure that i am using 20k points bank(ovet 21k atm) - i have all the achievments and the extended mothership works aswell hybridturenx and agrael had the same problem as me - they also moved from eu and they weren't whitelisted or smth like that, they told me that was the issue. also i chekced hybrid's post, and you said there smth about map versions and whitelists too -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 13th, 2017 02:53 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! so helz now appears to me as "banned" STAHP really, i need help SuperJack Mesk514 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 15th, 2017 12:56 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! So today my prefer worked twice and twice it didn't work. Helz -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Auteur : Cryptonic Date : April 15th, 2017 02:24 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! So today my prefer worked twice and twice it didn't work. Helz it's not a 100% guarantee you'll get the role you prefer. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Auteur : coffeeclubbr Date : April 15th, 2017 11:05 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! it's not a 100% guarantee you'll get the role you prefer. How likely is it/how much does it boost your chances? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Auteur : Helz Date : April 16th, 2017 01:01 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! Honestly the system in place that could cause issues is that I added something that 'blocks' new account ID's from using -prefer unless they are white listed. The thing is that if this is the case the user should get a system message when they attempt to prefer stating that they were prevented from preferring a role. Unless you are getting this message this is not the case. As for the standard prefer chances it basically very strongly increases your chances of getting the preferred role 'if' that role is rolled by the setup. It does nothing to increase the chances of that role being in the game so the exact chances of it working it kind of tough to calculate. Its based off each setup and things get much more complicated when more than 1 person prefers the same role. Past that there is a 'fake version' of the map in which your prefer will not function at all. I am still going to dig into this because you are the 2nd person to report issues in the last few months but I do not honestly anticipate something being an issue. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Auteur : coffeeclubbr Date : April 16th, 2017 02:09 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! As for the standard prefer chances it basically very strongly increases your chances of getting the preferred role 'if' that role is rolled by the setup. It does nothing to increase the chances of that role being in the game so the exact chances of it working it kind of tough to calculate. Its based off each setup and things get much more complicated when more than 1 person prefers the same role. Well, does prefer give extra weight to the player that prefers that role? Or is it more complex? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 16] Auteur : Exeter350 Date : April 16th, 2017 08:01 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! Well, does prefer give extra weight to the player that prefers that role? Or is it more complex? Helz already said it does. If the role appears in the game, -prefer makes it very likely for you to get the role, but is not a guarantee. I believe that when more than one player prefers the same role, weight is distributed amongst the players based on the points they have. E.g. a 40k pointer will be more likely to get the role than a 20k pointer, but again, is not a guarantee (i.e. the 20k pointer can still get it, over the 40k pointer). However, if the role is impossible in the setup, or possible but not rolled, then you won't get the role you preferred. The game rolls roles before prefer, not the other way around. Preferring Jester does not FORCE a Jester into the setup. Rather, IF the game decides to put a Jester in the game, you are LIKELY (but not guaranteed) to get it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 17] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 16th, 2017 12:51 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! I am talking about NOT GETTING MESSAGE that i prefered a role. However, it DID WOKR twice. But since that like 6-8 games in a row i DID NOT get a message that i prefered a role. And yes, i am not getting any message that i CAN NOT perform -prefer action. The command simply do nothing as if i didn't have 20k points and try it. The -blacklist function works as intended tho. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 18] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 16th, 2017 12:55 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! also i asked several players(hybrid, and agrael) - and their prefer work in the same map where my doesn't. so it's not about "fake version of the map" either -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 19] Auteur : Helz Date : April 16th, 2017 05:17 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! I am talking about NOT GETTING MESSAGE that i prefered a role. However, it DID WOKR twice. But since that like 6-8 games in a row i DID NOT get a message that i prefered a role. And yes, i am not getting any message that i CAN NOT perform -prefer action. The command simply do nothing as if i didn't have 20k points and try it. The -blacklist function works as intended tho. This is not suppose to happen. You should always get the message and if you are prevented from using it you should get a message telling you that prefer was blocked. I will point out that if you capitalize the first letter in -prefer it will not function. Also it is blocked from functioning in ranked setups. Was this the case with you? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 20] Auteur : Cryptonic Date : April 16th, 2017 07:05 PM Title : Re: Can't prefer! Yes, it definitely seems like a case of user error. Ensure you are not capitalizing "-Prefer", like Helz said. There are some other factors, but this is the most common that doesn't provide a feedback message. Post a current replay of this happening, and we will open the chatlog of the game and see what went wrong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 21] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 17th, 2017 02:14 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! hey are you kidding me or smth? i am not that stupid i DO NOT use capital letters also i never play ranked slot cause it's retarded cancer w/e i already told you several times. when i type -prefer jester or -prefer marshall, vigilante (for example) NOTHING HAPPENS. the weirdest thing it DID WORK twice (1-2 days ago, not on april fools). also, on april fools it DID WORK aswell(when it was turned on for all players) i believe that means its definately not about client side, but about server side. upd* attached replay -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 22] Auteur : Redrick Date : April 22nd, 2017 10:49 AM Title : Re: Can't prefer! Prefer works 2nd day in a row! Hope that's it, thanks everybody for help! If smth happens again, be sure, i'll tell ya xD now i ask you to check report thread for i reported hacker for hacking and gamethrowing! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-