* * * SC2 Mafia Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : FM Ladder - Season 7 https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46056 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 3rd, 2020 04:11 PM Title : FM Ladder - Season 7 After a long hiatus, it is back! The one and only FM Ladder is reopened for its seventh season, featuring new setups, new parameters, new point counting system and new rewards! FM Ladder - Season 7 Setup Pool S-FM: Fableblood IV - The Return of the Return of Haloden! (9P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/41283-S-FM-Fableblood-III-The-Return-of-Haloden) S-FM: BioMed Industries (9P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/30511-S-FM-BioMed-Industries) S-FM: Undercover (9P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/36794-S-FM-Undercover-(9P)) S-FM: Silent Night (14P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45727-S-FM-Silent-Night-(14P)) S-FM: Artificial Intelligence (12P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/31387-S-FM-Artificial-Intelligence-(12P)) S-FM: Eternia (9P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43219-S-FM-Eternia-(9P)) S-FM: Torment (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/4222-S-FM-Torment-(13P)) S-FM: Black Flag Nightless (10P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/32880-CLASSIC-S-FM-Black-Flag-Nightless) S-FM: Spirits II (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/42101-S-FM-Spirits-II-(13P)) S-FM: President (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50352) S-FM: Masquerade Madness II (7P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/40856-S-FM-Masquerade-Madness-II) S-FM: La Cosa Nostra (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/44206-S-FM-La-Cosa-Nostra) S-FM: Final Fantasy (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/39473-S-FM-Final-Fantasy) S-FM: The Smith's (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/41796-S-FM-The-Smith-s-(13P)) S-FM: Illuminati (9P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/32102-S-FM-Illuminati) S-FM: LBP Small-Town Mafia (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43555-S-FM-LBP-Small-Town-Mafia-(13P)) S-FM: Politico II (12P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45894-S-FM-Politico-II-(12P)) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Host & Setup Requirements Hosts need to have successfully hosted at least one game of any FM size in order to host a setup on the Ladder. They also need approval of FM Staff (which is to be asked privately, or in the Answer Hall). The setups that will possibly be on the Ladder are predefined and listed above. They were all approved by FM Staff and deemed interesting, balanced and fun by the community. You may vote for any of them. The setup with the most votes will be played, and ties between votes will be randomized. If no setup was picked to be hosted in a reasonable time span, I will pick the next one myself. Signups threads of Ladder games are required to include a poll on the next game that will be played on the Ladder that includes all games that were not yet played. The poll must be public, must allow voting for multiple choices, and will be closed when your game starts. Obviously, votes from alt accounts will not be counted in. Games will need at least one reserve before starting. S-FM Season 7 will end when 10 games will have been played on the Ladder. Additional Information No Archon Accounts or unknown Smurf Accounts will be involved in the games. Signups will be randomized; if your sign was randomized out and forced into reserve, you will be guarenteed to participate in the next Ladder game you sign for. Role attribution will be randomized. Players replacing other players will gain the points in the Ladder; the replaced players will not gain any. Points Earnage You are automatically enrolled if you participate in a game. Opting out is allowed via PM. +6 for Solo Victory +3 for Shared Victory +3 for Hosting or Co-Hosting (Maximum of 2 games) +1 for Loss +0.5 for Reserve (Never replaced a player) -1 for Modkill or Force Replaced Tiebreak priority: Most Solo Victories > Most Victories > Most Games Played > Most Scum Victories. Rewards A cool rune for the season's winner : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/590280967504134157/1067231999716249720/image.png Awards (medals) for 3rd, 2nd, and 1st place. A special usergroup for the season's winner : S-FM Champion. Good luck, and have fun participating! Players Points Marshmallow Marshall 18 Frinckles 17 Mike 16 Stealthbomber16 14 MartinGG99 11 Renegade 10 Ganelon/Oberon 9.5 Auwt 8.5 Varcron 7 Lag 6 Naz 6 Gyrlander 5.5 LuckyDucky/blinkskater 5 PQRNHack 5 NotPaopan 4 BananaCucho 4 yzb25 4 AIVION 4 Mizery 3 luona 3 theoneceko 3 secondpassing 3 Kenny 3 Distorted 3 Revenant/Dark Magician 3 Mesk514 3 OzyWho 3 bakermir 3 Helz 3 Gikkle 3 Loldebite 3 Light_Yagami 2 oliverz144 2 Voss 1.5 Zedus 1.5 Porscha 1 Lucy 1 Norwee 1 Macdougall 1 Guillo 1 jmw 1 FrostByte 1 Kovath 1 Michael34 1 MattZed 1 Numbertwo 1 Achromatic 1 Kutiplz 1 deathworlds 0.5 WrathCyber 0.5 ZZorange 0.5 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Auteur : DJarJar Date : February 3rd, 2020 05:05 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 WOOOOOO -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Auteur : OzyWho Date : February 3rd, 2020 10:29 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 To my knowledge, the Smiths had problems in it that SJ left in that I had to fix for my version. (the current version is not the one that people played) Likewise Silent Night had problems, Frinckles had to elaborate on stuff over and over again during the game. Maybe I misremember. Masquerade Madness II is Citizens vs 1 SK? Random Lynch game, I think it shouldn't be part of a competition. You put it in there to have a anonymous setup in the list, yes? Anonymousity doesn't have to be setup specific :blink1:. You could make all setups to be played on Anon accounts if you wanted to. :D Eternia and Artificial intelligence look very similar. If this list is in order of games played - I think you should consider putting them further apart from each other. Maybe undercover too....but probably not. What is your personal opinion of the Torment setup? Usually 3 Mafias are against 10 Towns, but here it's 8 towns and the remaining 2 slots are Neutrals. Interesting balancing choice. In contrast, President's balance I like immediately. Small Town mafia looks very funny lol. Top setup of the list. My personal taste, a more "softer" list of setups would feel more attractive. Thoug it's only like that for me. I got the impression that the general consensus on SC2Mafia is the crazier the better. (Doesn't matter to me ofc because very likely I won't play FM any time soon) I like, percentage wise, the list of Light Game Competitive Circuit (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24639-Light-Game-Competitive-Circuit) more tbh. :cheesy: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Auteur : Frinckles Date : February 4th, 2020 06:08 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Oh shit, you put silent night in -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Auteur : Frinckles Date : February 4th, 2020 08:47 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Marshmallow Marshall If I wanted to adjust Angel in Silent Night, how would I go about doing that? Alternatively I can leave it in it's current state, your call. I felt the role was a little clunky & ineffective. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Auteur : Stealthbomber16 Date : February 4th, 2020 09:20 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 If you want an anon setup a la Masquerade Madness a better alternative IMO is Cryptonic’s BioMed Industries (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/30511-S-FM-BioMed-Industries) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Auteur : BananaCucho Date : February 4th, 2020 09:45 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 This was my first game. Bring it back. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Auteur : Gyrlander Date : February 4th, 2020 09:46 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 This was my first game. Bring it back. Is this a ghost? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Auteur : Stealthbomber16 Date : February 4th, 2020 10:37 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 BIOMED GANG BIOMED GANG -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 4th, 2020 06:38 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 If you want an anon setup a la Masquerade Madness a better alternative IMO is Cryptonic’s BioMed Industries (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/30511-S-FM-BioMed-Industries) Your request and the support it recieved are noted! I had already considered adding it, but decided that Masquerade Madness was more known by the community here and probably more liked. Looks like I might have been wrong. Marshmallow Marshall If I wanted to adjust Angel in Silent Night, how would I go about doing that? Alternatively I can leave it in it's current state, your call. I felt the role was a little clunky & ineffective. I had the same feeling; the games were handpicked for good balance and popularity, not necessarily for perfect state of balance for every role and alignment. You can propose changes in the setup thread; they will have to be approved before becoming part of the setup, but if they are, the Ladder setup will be the amended version, assuming the setup is reasonably close in spirit and form to the original. This works for everyone and every Ladder setup, by the way. Frinckles Is this a ghost? Yes, it is one. ALL HAIL THE GHOST -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Auteur : Brendan Date : February 4th, 2020 06:43 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 PogChamp -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 4th, 2020 06:57 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 To my knowledge, the Smiths had problems in it that SJ left in that I had to fix for my version. (the current version is not the one that people played) Likewise Silent Night had problems, Frinckles had to elaborate on stuff over and over again during the game. Maybe I misremember. Masquerade Madness II is Citizens vs 1 SK? Random Lynch game, I think it shouldn't be part of a competition. You put it in there to have a anonymous setup in the list, yes? Anonymousity doesn't have to be setup specific :blink1:. You could make all setups to be played on Anon accounts if you wanted to. :D Eternia and Artificial intelligence look very similar. If this list is in order of games played - I think you should consider putting them further apart from each other. Maybe undercover too....but probably not. What is your personal opinion of the Torment setup? Usually 3 Mafias are against 10 Towns, but here it's 8 towns and the remaining 2 slots are Neutrals. Interesting balancing choice. In contrast, President's balance I like immediately. Small Town mafia looks very funny lol. Top setup of the list. My personal taste, a more "softer" list of setups would feel more attractive. Thoug it's only like that for me. I got the impression that the general consensus on SC2Mafia is the crazier the better. (Doesn't matter to me ofc because very likely I won't play FM any time soon) I like, percentage wise, the list of Light Game Competitive Circuit (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24639-Light-Game-Competitive-Circuit) more tbh. :cheesy: Smiths will be fixed accordingly. Silent Night did not really have problems: players not always reading the setup isn't the setup's fault, after all. I do believe that Angel tweaks would be welcome, though. Masquerade Madness is not a random lynch game at all, and was very appreciated the two times it was played. It focuses on tells that are very rarely focused on, such as language tells, but that can be used in every mafia game (not to find disguisers, but as "language meta"; see Helz's guide on meta). And no, it wasn't to have an anonymous setup in the list, but to have that specific setup in the list! I also wanted to include a solo scum in a small setup. The list is not in order of anything, since there will be a vote on the next played setup! Also, these setups are completely different, while quite simple in essence. A bit more like your Light Game Circuit (they aren't light setups, though). As of the "wild" side of setups, they are actually quite tame, for the most part. I will consider adding more light setups to the list if there is a demand. Torment has a lot of neutrals, and it's partially about making them side with you while you need them. The setup is also very old, which means it isn't from the same site meta: at the time the setup was made, balance might not have been considered the way it currently is. For those who did not notice, the "What is your favorite setup" thread was mostly created to help me select the community's current favorites. You may still participate in it, by the way. Who knows, you might find a special setup :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Auteur : OzyWho Date : February 4th, 2020 10:39 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Smiths will be fixed accordingly.I'm so glad you fixed the grammer, rigger ooo, and the 3p wincon. They were so so ugly. :push: Silent Night did not really have problems: players not always reading the setup isn't the setup's fault, after all. I do believe that Angel tweaks would be welcome, though.-No lynch mechanics. -No Possible Feedback list. -Is not said whether the Mafia have a day chat. (if they don’t have a day chat, then it’s worth noting that it’s not specified whether they know their teammates or not, but I guess no setup has it specified?) -Angels role card says “You are a benevolent angel, watching over a patron of the Holiday Party.”, while 3 town role cards say “You are a patron of the Holiday Party.”. Angel’s target can be any alignment or role. Obvious confusion incoming. -Maybe this is nitpicking, but it’s not specified wether or not Angel knows anything about their target. -Lover and Heartbreaker are not in the OoO. It doesn’t matter for Heartbreaker though since town has no night kill. -“Deaths from Heartbreak occur at the end of each night.” - In the case of Lovers target getting lynched, poor Lover can’t join the graveyard chat for 24 more hours. :( I wonder what’s the reason for that line anyway? :thinking: -While the List Makers interaction with Actress is clarified in the role card, the same cannot be said about the Caroler. -Can we take a moment and appreciate what a strange name the List Maker is? His name is Caroler’s action in a sense, while his own action is a combination of Sleuth (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=%20Sleuth)and Parity Cop (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=%20Parity%20Cop). -It would be nice to know if the Consorts target gets notified. It could get ugly for the RB'ed Caroler, if the Caroler targets a citizen. -This line in the Angels role card: “this protection also prevents death via heartbreak.” - I view it as possibly prolematic because Angel's target can also be Lover. Masquerade Madness is not a random lynch game at all, and was very appreciated the two times it was played. It focuses on tells that are very rarely focused on, such as language tells, but that can be used in every mafia game (not to find disguisers, but as "language meta"; see Helz's guide on meta). And no, it wasn't to have an anonymous setup in the list, but to have that specific setup in the list! I also wanted to include a solo scum in a small setup.I don't mind the setup itself tbh. I just think it's not the best fit for a competitive environment. 1) compared to other setups, the lynching there is more random. 2) Wether 6 players get a little points or 1 players gets a lot of points - thats fair in itself. But if the 6 win, then because of the small setup size, the randed subs might view the 6 as lucky and feel cheated out of points themselves. As of the "wild" side of setups, they are actually quite tame, for the most part. I so so want to say "I rest my case". Feels out of place, but I know no better way to say it. :S Torment has a lot of neutrals, and it's partially about making them side with you while you need them. The setup is also very old, which means it isn't from the same site meta: at the time the setup was made, balance might not have been considered the way it currently is."it's partially about making them side with you while you need them" sounds horrendous. :laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 5th, 2020 07:00 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Hey, it wasn't that bad, our righteous overlord SJ made it! But I'm glad you like it. Yes, Silent Night could use some clarifications that will be made in due time; however, you were contesting the legitimity of its presence here, which wasn't necessary or nice. But either way, that's matter for the setup thread itself. You made us bury BananaGhostcho's entry, you monster. I don't really see the validity of your points about Masquerade Madness. If you'd like, we can discuss it privately on Discord. In other words, I rest my case :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Auteur : OzyWho Date : February 5th, 2020 08:07 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Yes, Silent Night could use some clarifications that will be made in due time; however, you were contesting the legitimity of its presence here, which wasn't necessary or nice. But either way, that's matter for the setup thread itself. You made us bury BananaGhostcho's entry, you monster. I never questioned it's legitimity to be part of the ladder. I pointed out it's not really... finished. I bluntly said what I remember, which ended up being true (all the points I made above were gathered from ISO'ing Frinckles in the game). It wasn't nice, it wasn't rude, it wasn't anything but neutral. I'm sorry that I tried to be helpful but it was seen as me being rude or something. I don't really see the validity of your points about Masquerade Madness. If you'd like, we can discuss it privately on Discord. In other words, I rest my case :) ...ok I will see myself out. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 16] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 5th, 2020 08:30 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Just to clarify, I'm not shutting the discussion off, it's just not the right place. It's great to have you discuss about the setups, don't get me wrong! There was a misunderstanding there, sorry. OzyWho -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 17] Auteur : Frinckles Date : February 5th, 2020 08:40 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I never questioned it's legitimity to be part of the ladder. I pointed out it's not really... finished. I bluntly said what I remember, which ended up being true (all the points I made above were gathered from ISO'ing Frinckles in the game). It wasn't nice, it wasn't rude, it wasn't anything but neutral. I'm sorry that I tried to be helpful but it was seen as me being rude or something. The setup is very much finished (outside of Angel being tweaked.) When people ask questions during an FM game related to mechanics, I found it difficult to decipher whether they were legitimate ones. In some cases, players like to speculate about mechanics (as scum and town) whether to help or hinder the town. I saw it as a side effect of introducing a setup with lesser-played roles but players like Light who are used to the mod will assume certain things about the setup because they figure it's the same as the mod. That, coupled with the fact that 4+ people blatantly didn't read the setup, caused confusion. There were some incorrect things in your post but I'll address and fix it in that thread. I don't mind you wanting things to be more clear so I'll get on it -- especially since the setup is to be included in this circuit. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 18] Auteur : Frinckles Date : February 5th, 2020 01:14 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 When and what are we playing? :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 19] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 5th, 2020 01:28 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 The setups that will possibly be on the Ladder are predefined and listed above. They were all approved by FM Staff and deemed interesting, balanced and fun by the community. You may vote for any of them. The setup with the most votes will be played, and ties between votes will be randomized. If no setup was picked to be hosted in a reasonable time span, I will pick the next one myself. See the Host & Setup Requirements section of the original post ^^ there is yet to be someone proposing to host a setup in the Answer Hall or by PM. Also note that not all games played in the coming months will be on the Ladder. Some will just be other games played between the ranked ones. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 20] Auteur : DJarJar Date : February 5th, 2020 07:29 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 See the Host & Setup Requirements section of the original post ^^ there is yet to be someone proposing to host a setup in the Answer Hall or by PM. Also note that not all games played in the coming months will be on the Ladder. Some will just be other games played between the ranked ones. I volunteer MM as tribute -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 21] Auteur : Light_Yagami Date : February 5th, 2020 07:52 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 How To Host Ive Never Hosted Ever.. So.... Yeah. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 22] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 5th, 2020 09:32 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I volunteer MM as tribute Did you just volunteer yourself, or put me as a "volunteer"? :huh: How To Host Ive Never Hosted Ever.. So.... Yeah. Hosts need to have successfully hosted at least one game of any FM size in order to host a setup on the Ladder. - quote from the original post. You would have to try your hand at hosting a non-ladder setup first. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 23] Auteur : Frinckles Date : February 6th, 2020 09:49 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I volunteer MM as tribute Same. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 24] Auteur : Light_Yagami Date : February 6th, 2020 01:32 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Did you just volunteer yourself, or put me as a "volunteer"? :huh: Hosts need to have successfully hosted at least one game of any FM size in order to host a setup on the Ladder. - quote from the original post. You would have to try your hand at hosting a non-ladder setup first. My Bad Read Through Pretty Quick And Missed That Section Thanks For Clarification.. Im In The Middle Of Working On My Own Set Up For Forums.. I Might Run It By U Or Aivion Later. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 25] Auteur : blinkskater Date : February 6th, 2020 03:02 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Its my body ill do what i want -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 26] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : February 6th, 2020 03:04 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Its my body ill do what i want What? o.O Your body is the absolute propriety of the FM section, blink. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 27] Auteur : Gyrlander Date : February 6th, 2020 03:09 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Stop it MM. Blink is mine. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 28] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : March 4th, 2020 05:19 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated. We have found a host for the next Ladder game. If you're interested into hosting the game after the next game, PM me or write a request in the Answer Hall! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 29] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : December 15th, 2020 06:32 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Eternia. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 30] Auteur : Auwt Date : December 16th, 2020 08:30 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Host riot. BibleThump -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 31] Auteur : Mike Date : December 16th, 2020 09:08 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 MM you did not give Auwt his host points. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 32] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : December 16th, 2020 11:28 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Whoops, fixed lol. Sorry, I had trouble with my editing and had to redo it multiple times, I guess that got lost in the process. Everything else is correct, I just double-checked. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 33] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : December 27th, 2020 03:32 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Illuminati. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 34] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : March 18th, 2021 02:26 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Silent Night. Three Ladder games left! The next game on the Ladder is LBP Small Town Mafia (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43555-S-FM-LBP-Small-Town-Mafia-(13P)). If you wish to host the game, message me! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 35] Auteur : Zedus Date : March 25th, 2021 03:31 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 "+6 for Solo Victory" Hey, I solo won that game with Serial Killer and Mafia without kills, where is my points? :D (to be honest, I don't even know what does that points means, but if I can trade it for cookies, I will like it) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 36] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : March 26th, 2021 02:35 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 "+6 for Solo Victory" Hey, I solo won that game with Serial Killer and Mafia without kills, where is my points? :D (to be honest, I don't even know what does that points means, but if I can trade it for cookies, I will like it) I have checked every ladder game from this season with a Serial Killer-ish role + mafia, and you never won any as SK, so nope :(. It probably was in a non-ladder game. Points here are gained from playing in ladder games and winning in them, or by hosting them. You have 1.5 points for doing exactly that ^^. They may be traded for cookies at the nearest grocery store, as long as you pay the normal price for the cookies, too. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 37] Auteur : OzyWho Date : March 26th, 2021 02:44 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 You have 1.5 points for doing exactly that ^^. They may be traded for cookies at the nearest grocery store, as long as you pay the normal price for the cookies, too. Hoax -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 38] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : March 26th, 2021 02:48 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Hoax No, it's 100 % true :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 39] Auteur : SuperJack Date : March 26th, 2021 04:43 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I would like to be removed from the ladder please. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 40] Auteur : Stealthbomber16 Date : March 26th, 2021 06:58 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I would like to be removed from the ladder please. yo mama so fat she broke the FM ladder -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 41] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : March 26th, 2021 08:47 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I would like to be removed from the ladder please. Popup: Are you sure you wish to be removed from the Ladder? This is irreversible. *SJ clicks yes without looking and his computer explodes* Success! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 42] Auteur : SuperJack Date : March 27th, 2021 01:29 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 yo mama so fat she broke the FM ladder yeh but you still banged her -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 43] Auteur : Helz Date : March 27th, 2021 05:46 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I would like to be removed from the ladder please. I like my 0/2 record. Makes me look pro : ) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 44] Auteur : SuperJack Date : March 27th, 2021 10:07 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 I like my 0/2 record. Makes me look pro : ) I dont even know what my record is :P -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 45] Auteur : Zedus Date : March 28th, 2021 11:24 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 It probably was in a non-ladder game. Ah, yes. It was. I got that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 46] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : June 19th, 2021 10:09 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Silent Night. Three Ladder games left! The next game on the Ladder is LBP Small Town Mafia (13P) (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/43555-S-FM-LBP-Small-Town-Mafia-(13P)). If you wish to host the game, message me! Bump. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 47] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : October 19th, 2021 03:41 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Small Town. Mike has already been put on the Queue with Politico (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45894-S-FM-Politico-II-(12P)?p=842172&viewfull=1#post842172), which shall be the penultimate game this season! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 48] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : December 20th, 2021 05:50 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Politico II. The tie in votes for the next setup was broken by RNG, which picked chose Fableblood III - The Return of Haloden (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/41283-S-FM-Fableblood-III-The-Return-of-Haloden) as the final Ladder game. We are still looking for a host for this game, so volunteers are appreciated! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 49] Auteur : MartinGG99 Date : August 28th, 2022 11:33 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 Points updated for Politico II. The tie in votes for the next setup was broken by RNG, which picked chose Fableblood III - The Return of Haloden (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/41283-S-FM-Fableblood-III-The-Return-of-Haloden) as the final Ladder game. We are still looking for a host for this game, so volunteers are appreciated! lol we completely forgot about this when picking a final game for the ladder -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 50] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : August 29th, 2022 12:37 AM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 lol we completely forgot about this when picking a final game for the ladder Not entirely. The interest (and the players) changed between that time and the time we actually had people willing to host and to play, so we just went along with it. The votes were not terribly representative anymore xD. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 51] Auteur : Marshmallow Marshall Date : January 23rd, 2023 05:10 PM Title : Re: FM Ladder - Season 7 This was slightly lost in the sands of time, but I have given the awards to the winners! 3rd place: Mike 2nd place: Frinckles 1st place: Marshmallow Marshall https://i2.wp.com/www.thebarbedwiresatire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2eee1-e1484114115388.jpg shamelessly stolen from Lumi Congratulations to them (us?), and thanks for participating in games that were overall of quite admirable quality in general! As for the Ladder's formula, improvement ideas are always welcome; if you wish to share some, go ahead! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-