Night 6

[Gaunt]

Well fuck that backfired

Looks like Monica is taking one for the team tomorrow. Did Beru survive? Thankfully we didn't get a lynch off today but we can stall things out with our 2kpn we should be fine.

Leia must die! Leia must die! Princess Lementine must die! Like really I told you she was fucking dangeous but no she's "just a journalist."

Klaus how many Enclave identities does Wickett know? I am worried because it is painfully obvious he is the devourer and he will probably try to take us down with him if he gets lynched. He also might have what he knows in his last will which means if we have a clenaing left we might want to use our second kill on him.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Beru did not show up to the Enclave meeting.

Probably because he was being a badass, getting involved in airstrikes and shit.

[Klaus]

Goddamit. I knew this was going to happen as soon as I saw Roger's (Monica's) post. The grammar was entirely all wrong and I was hoping no one would pick up on it (and tried to re-direct the lynch with Paul). Thankfully, time was on our side.

We have a bigger problem: Nina, if you had unvoted Beru it would have saved him. Everyone knows you are scum. Not only that, but now Rodgers results are false (we can try saying he was Framed, but no one will buy it). He's basically a confirmed puppet/Ventriloquist who may be shot tonight by Tebow.

Everyone but Gaunt is on the Town's radar. Law is borderline, along with Klaus (the only reason Klaus is still alive is because the Brotherhood isn't sure if Wicket or Klaus is the Devourer). I'm going to continue to straddle that line with Klaus between Devourer/helpful Town.

Nina and Monica are practically confirmed scum.

THANKFULLY we knocked out a Brotherhood member in that free lynch.

Tebow will likely shoot Monica.

Wicket is devouring Manning tonight. Thankfully we don't have to worry about the Bus Driver.

We MUST shoot Leia tonight. I knew her role lists would bite us in the ass. It would also be advisable to shoot Mkoll or Rawne. Shooting Mkoll will confirm Jabba as Town, but Mkoll seems more intelligent and helpful.

[Law]

Beru deserved to die. He almost single-handedly caused Roger to be discovered. He was the first one to bring up the possibility of Roger being the disguiser. It was almost like he wanted our plan to be discovered.

Roger, did you even read a single on of Monica's posts? It's not like she had a hard prose style to copy. Jesus man, we could have come out of this day with a mislynch if you had even attempted to copy Monica's writing style. Even with everything that went wrong today, from Manning remembering Yoshimitsu's role to Leia revealing that she shot Yoshimitsu, we still could have gotten out of the day with a mislynch if you had simply attempted to copy her writing style.

Sigh.

[Nina]

I was not the hammer vote on Beru, there was one over the top.
Good news is, there probably isnt a lookout around, hopefully witch will control the vig keeping us safe.
Vader isn't witch, maybe a cit or the armorsmith. Definitely town if her student was deemed worthy of killing last night
Look at the role list, if 4-5 townspeople safely go down tonight, we could control majority.
Up to witch not to fuck up

[Law]

Yes, Leia has to die tonight. As for Mkoll, I'm scared about her vest. She might not be telling the truth, but I don't see why she would lie about that when she got an attacked and healed message. I also believe Rawne to be a Brotherhood member. I don't know who our second target should be. I also don't know who we should clean. Monica to make it look like a mafia kill if she dies? Rodgers to keep Klaus from getting lynched if he dies? One of our targets? I'm not sure.

Wicket cleaning Manning will help though. It will look like Manning disguised away, which would lend some credibility to Roger under normal circumstances.

I'm just throwing an idea out here, but what if we had Roger claim tomorrow that he had been out of town without computer access and had let his friend/sibling play for him? You HAVE to study up on Monica's prose style though Roger. I doubt the town would buy it, but at the very least it would plant a seed of doubt in their mind while they are bandwagoning him. It is better than sitting back and just letting him get lynched.

As for Rodgers, I don't think his situation is as dire as you make it Klaus. Leia was the only person who suspected him of being a puppet, and she should be dead by tomorrow. The rest of the town is still mesmerized by his two correct suspicious results, so we still might be able to cause a mislynch with him after Leia dies. Perhaps we could claim he investigated Manning and found him as suspicious, which in conjunction with Wickets clean would make him look like an actual disguiser. This would again lend some credibility to Rogers claim.

[Law]

I was not the hammer vote on Beru, there was one over the top.
Good news is, there probably isnt a lookout around, hopefully witch will control the vig keeping us safe.
Vader isn't witch, maybe a cit or the armorsmith. Definitely town if her student was deemed worthy of killing last night
Look at the role list, if 4-5 townspeople safely go down tonight, we could control majority.
Up to witch not to fuck up

Vader's student (Biggs) was killed by Wicket because he had been harassing Wicket about being the devourer.

[Klaus]

As of right now, assuming Manning will be killed be Wicket (which I have no doubt he will), this is our player list of 20 remaining players:

Han - Probably witch
Jabba - Student (of Mkoll)
Leia - Journalist
Luke
Tarkin - Spy?
Vader - Probably Town PR
Wedge
Wicket - Devourer
Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Gaunt - Framer
Mkoll
Rawne
Tebow - Sheriff?
Brady
Rodgers - Puppet
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Paul - Puppet
Jin

We need to place: 2 Brotherhood members and 5 Town PRs.

It is currently 5 Enclave (7 accounts with puppets) + 1 Devourer + 1 Witch vs 2 Brotherhood vs 8 Town + 1 Town-aligned/Brotherhood-aligned Student

[Law]

We need to go through each Vaults role list and fill in all the blanks. That will give us a much better picture.

[Klaus]

Klaus how many Enclave identities does Wickett know? I am worried because it is painfully obvious he is the devourer and he will probably try to take us down with him if he gets lynched. He also might have what he knows in his last will which means if we have a clenaing left we might want to use our second kill on him.

It is painfully obvious to us that he is the Devourer. He's scum for sure, but they don't know if he's a puppet or the Devourer. A mislynch on a puppet would be terrible. I may have a to pull a gambit tomorrow if Monica is shot tonight.

I forgot to tell Wicket that Law is Enclave and it was probably for the best. If Wicket goes down, he might try and bargain with the town by telling them he knows who the Enclave are in order to buy him an extra day or two. Right now, he knows that Klaus is Ventriloquist, Rodgers is a Puppet, Paul is a Puppet, Nina is Janitor, and that Beru was Enclave. I'm sure he's also figured out that Monica is Disguiser given the way Paul defended her and his subsequent -unvote on her.

He does not know you or Gaunt and I intend to keep it that way.

[Klaus]

He does not know you or Gaunt and I intend to keep it that way.

Sorry, you or Law.

[Klaus]

Han - Probably witch
Jabba - Student (of Mkoll)
Leia - Journalist
Luke - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tarkin - Hidden Any (Vault 21 - claimed Spy)
Vader - Probably Town PR
Wedge - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Wicket - Devourer
Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Gaunt - Framer
Mkoll - Hidden Any (Vault 103)
Rawne - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tebow - Sheriff
Brady - Hidden Any or Hidden NCR (Vault 5)
Rodgers - Puppet
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Paul - Puppet
Jin - Town PR (no extra kills in Vault 37 from him. Not Brotherhood)

We need to place: 2 Brotherhood members and 4 Town PRs.

[Klaus]

Rawne is 100% Brotherhood. I noticed him trying to prevent the free lynch on Vick (who turned out to be the Brotherhood Kidnapper).

The other Brotherhood has to be Tarkin or Luke.

This makes our list look like this:


Han - Probably witch
Jabba - Student (of Mkoll)
Leia - Journalist
Luke - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tarkin - Hidden Any (Vault 21 - claimed Spy)
Vader - Probably Town PR
Wedge - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Wicket - Devourer
Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Gaunt - Framer
Mkoll - Hidden Any (Vault 103)
Rawne - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tebow - Sheriff
Brady - Hidden Any or Hidden NCR (Vault 5)
Rodgers - Puppet
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Paul - Puppet
Jin - Town PR (no extra kills in Vault 37 from him. Not Brotherhood)

We need to place: 1 Brotherhood member and 1 Town PR.

[Klaus]

Also, I would like to take this time to point out that with Manning's death there will be only be 20 players left in the game and I make up 15% of them. Lolololllolol.

[Klaus]

As for Rodgers, I don't think his situation is as dire as you make it Klaus. Leia was the only person who suspected him of being a puppet, and she should be dead by tomorrow. The rest of the town is still mesmerized by his two correct suspicious results, so we still might be able to cause a mislynch with him after Leia dies. Perhaps we could claim he investigated Manning and found him as suspicious, which in conjunction with Wickets clean would make him look like an actual disguiser. This would again lend some credibility to Rogers claim.

Wicket is out of cleanings (he used them on Yoshimitsu and Biggs). Therefore, Manning's death will look like a normal jailor execution.

Thankfully, he can't re-direct our actions.

What do you think about cleaning Leia? This is mainly because, if she dies, her last will is basically going to spell out for the town that Nina is scum, Monica is a disguiser, Rodgers is a puppet because his results were wrong on Beru, Law tried to defend Monica in day chat, Tebow and Mkoll are cleared (along with Jabba, by default) and that the Devourer should be killed tomorrow Wicket/Klaus/Paul (thankfully, she thinks it's Paul).

On the other hand, we could clean Monica and that layer of doubt will still remain...but, really, they all firmly believe she was disguised.

[Law]

Vault 5 - Role List

Hidden Enclave - Law (Actress)
Hidden Wastelander - Francine (Corrupt Journalist)
Hidden NCR - Ackbar (Detective?)
Hidden NCR - Hayley (Citizen)
Citizen - Steve
Hidden Any - Gaunt (Framer)
Hidden Any - Brady (???)
Hidden Any - Yoshimitsu (Bus Driver/Vigilante?)

Vault 5 - Participants

Ackbar
Brady
Francine
Gaunt
Hayley
Law
Steve
Yoshimitsu

Vault 9 - Role List

Hidden Wastelander - Han/Vader (Witch)
Hidden NCR - Fluttershy (Sheriff)
Hidden NCR - Lando (Sheriff)
Citizen - Heihachi
Hidden Any - Roger (Disguiser)
Hidden Any - Romo (Sheriff)
Hidden Any - Han/Vader (???)

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Vault 9 - Participants

Fluttershy
Han
Heihachi
Lando
Roger
Romo
Vader

Vault 21 - Role List

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel - Vick (Kidnapper)
Hidden Wastelander - Manning (Amnesiac)
Hidden NCR - Eddy (Enchantress)
Hidden NCR - Brees (Mortician)
Citizen - Owen
Hidden Any - Tarkin (Spy?)
Hidden Any - Rawne (???)
Hidden Any - Luke (???)
Hidden Any - Wedge (???)

Vault 21 - Participants

Brees
Luke
Manning
Rawne
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge
Eddy
Owen

Vault 37 - Role List

Hidden Enclave - Beru (Drug Dealer)
Hidden Neutral - Jabba (Student)
Hidden NCR - Boba (Escort)
Hidden NCR - Brostin (Sheriff)
Hidden NCR - Ross (Lookout)
Citizen - Chandler
Hidden Any - Nina (Janitor)
Hidden Any - Yoda (???)
Hidden Any - Jin (???)


Vault 37 - Participants

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda

Vault 66 - Role List

Hidden Wastelander - Biggs (Student)
Hidden Wastelander - Wicket (Devourer)
Hidden NCR - Phoebe (Bodyguard)
Hidden NCR - Rachel (Detective)
Hidden Any - Klaus (Ventriloquist)
Hidden Any - Rodgers (Puppet)
Hidden Any - Paul (Puppet)
Hidden Any - Bragg (Ventriloquist)
Hidden Any - Lei (Puppet)
Hidden Any - Ben (Puppet)


Vault 66 - Participants

Biggs
Ben
Bragg
Klaus
Lei
Paul
Phoebe
Rachel
Rodgers
Wicket

Vault 103 - Role List

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel - Stan (Fabricator)
Sheriff - Tebow
Hidden NCR - Chewbacca (Saboteur)
Hidden NCR - Greedo (Citizen)
Hidden NCR - Monica (Coroner)
Hidden NCR - Leia (Journalist)
Hidden Any - King (Consort)
​Hidden Any - Larkin (Arms Dealer)
Hidden Any - Mkoll (???)

Vault 103 - Participants

Chewbacca
Greedo
King
Larkin
Leia
Mkoll
Monica
Stan
Tebow

[Law]

Tarkin - Spy
Tebow - Sheriff
Leia - Journalist
Jin - ???
Mkoll - ???
Brady - ???
Luke - ???
Wedge - ???

Vader - Witch
Wicket - Devourer
Jabba - Student

Han - Brotherhood
Rawne - Brotherhood

Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Gaunt - Framer
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Paul - Puppet
Rodgers - Puppet

This is the current role list. I guarentee it. The only thing I a not 100% on is who is Brotherhood and who is the witch between Han and Vader. For meta game reasons one of the two has to be mafia. Vaults 37 and 5 had only Enclave. Vaults 21 and 103 had only Brotherhood. Vault 66 shared the Ventriloquists. Vault 9 had to have had one of each mafia in it.

[Law]

Wicket is out of cleanings (he used them on Yoshimitsu and Biggs). Therefore, Manning's death will look like a normal jailor execution.

Thankfully, he can't re-direct our actions.

What do you think about cleaning Leia? This is mainly because, if she dies, her last will is basically going to spell out for the town that Nina is scum, Monica is a disguiser, Rodgers is a puppet because his results were wrong on Beru, Law tried to defend Monica in day chat, Tebow and Mkoll are cleared (along with Jabba, by default) and that the Devourer should be killed tomorrow Wicket/Klaus/Paul (thankfully, she thinks it's Paul).

On the other hand, we could clean Monica and that layer of doubt will still remain...but, really, they all firmly believe she was disguised.

Leia would be a good target, but what do you think about cleaning Manning?

[Law]

Depending on how the next night goes, we could gain the majority.

[Law]

Anyways, having Rodger come up with a suspicious result on Rawne would be a good idea.

[Klaus]

Tarkin - Spy
Tebow - Sheriff
Leia - Journalist
Jin - ???
Mkoll - ???
Brady - ???
Luke - ???
Wedge - ???

Vader - Witch
Wicket - Devourer
Jabba - Student

Han - Brotherhood
Rawne - Brotherhood

Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Gaunt - Framer
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Paul - Puppet
Rodgers - Puppet

This is the current role list. I guarentee it. The only thing I a not 100% on is who is Brotherhood and who is the witch between Han and Vader. For meta game reasons one of the two has to be mafia. Vaults 37 and 5 had only Enclave. Vaults 21 and 103 had only Brotherhood. Vault 66 shared the Ventriloquists. Vault 9 had to have had one of each mafia in it.


I would say it's almost a definite that Han is the witch. Why? Because Vader (and his student, Biggs) threw a ton of suspicion on Wicket and Vault 66. He could've said nothing at all and most people would have glossed over it like they've done all game, but Biggs wouldn't shut up about it. If Vader was witch, he wins with everyone but the town. Therefore, he would not want to bring up the Devourer at all and make the Enclave Ventriloquist mad at the same time because it would increase his chances of getting shot at night. The last thing he needs is less KPN.

[Monica]

That was painful. The Luke lynch would have happend if Leia hadn't shot Yoshi N4. The only piece of good luck was that despite my grammar fail (can't believe that I actualy made that mistake. I made a note that Monica always had capitals after commas) town failed to lynch me.

@Law, once Leia said she shot at Yoshi N4, the Luke train fell apart, before the grammar fail got noticed.

[Gaunt]

We have a bigger problem: Nina, if you had unvoted Beru it would have saved him. Everyone knows you are scum. Not only that, but now Rodgers results are false (we can try saying he was Framed, but no one will buy it). He's basically a confirmed puppet/Ventriloquist who may be shot tonight by Tebow.


Yup did you really have to do that? Anyways there is no harm in pushing the sheriff a little further. Klaus could you go back to the day chat's and look for scummy things Rawne did and then point them out as Rogers tomorrow and say you got a guilty vote? I know it is a little against Rogers style but as long as you keep the grammar or lack thereof consistent it will be fine. You checked Rawne and he is guilty of being scum.

I am convinced he is Brotherhood right now so he is a good target to give them a nick kick in the balls with and what is there to lose really?

[Monica]

Well, math time.

Most likely current setup

5 Enclave
2 Evil Neutral
2 BoS
9 Town/Good Neutrals

We shall do bad case senario's(assuming nothing horrific happens)

We shoot Rawne and a random town, wicket kills town, BoS shoots one of us

4 Enclave
2 Evil Neutral
1 BoS
7 Town

8 vs 6: 1 AFK town is all it takes to win.

All BoS and Town are attentive, me/Nina gets lynched

Wicket kills another town, we kill another 2 towns, BoS kills another one of us.

3 Enclave
2 Evil Neutral
1 BoS
4 Town

5 vs 5

50% majority

If we knock BoS down to 1 member, there is no way witch/devourer will betray us.

Therefore, victory!

[Gaunt]

Also I am not entirely convinced Luke is town. He avoided a role claim facing death at L-2. He was essentially like um herp a derp I'm not gonna give you anything but Monica is lying. I think he didn't know what to claim because he is either brotherhood or neutral. Fuck how did he not get hammered for that? Such bullshit.

[Gaunt]

Tonight I kind of want to frame rogers instead of doing the killing in case he gets checked. Monica should do the kill now that she has a lack of night action.

This is how it should work

1) Monica kills Mkoll (revenge must be had)
2) Klaus kills Leia
3) Gaunt frames Rogers
4) Law gives a gun to Klaus
5) Nina cleans Mkoll

If we use our last cleaning on Mkoll then Jabba isn't confirmed town.

[Klaus]

Well, math time.

Most likely current setup

5 Enclave
2 Evil Neutral
2 BoS
9 Town/Good Neutrals

We shall do bad case senario's(assuming nothing horrific happens)

We shoot Rawne and a random town, wicket kills town, BoS shoots one of us

4 Enclave
2 Evil Neutral
1 BoS
7 Town

8 vs 6: 1 AFK town is all it takes to win.

All BoS and Town are attentive, me/Nina gets lynched

Wicket kills another town, we kill another 2 towns, BoS kills another one of us.

3 Enclave
2 Evil Neutral
1 BoS
4 Town

5 vs 5

50% majority

If we knock BoS down to 1 member, there is no way witch/devourer will betray us.

Therefore, victory!

There's some incorrect theorizing going on here.

First, Wicket's kill is already included in tonight's player list (there are 21 players alive. Wicket kills Manning. 20 players left).

Second, if the Brotherhood shoots Enclave tonight, we could easily be fucked over, especially if they shoot Monica (to try and prove Luke innocent) and Tebow shoots Nina. That would be disastrous for us.

If we assume the witch and Devourer is on our side, we have 7 votes. The BoS has 2 votes and the town has 9 votes. If we can kill off two town, they are reduced to 7 votes, BoS 9 votes, us = 7 votes (assuming neither of us dies tonight). If the BoS is smart, they'll shoot a puppet tonight. If they shoot a town and reduce them to 6 votes, Nina/Monica will probably get lynched, though Rodgers can pursue a lynch against Rawne if necessary to reduce BoS to 1 (trust me, if Rodgers is alive he's going to be pushing a lynch against Rawne).

If we lose no members tonight and at least two town members die and Wicket is not lynched, we have this game in the bag.

[Nina]

Han - Probably witch
Jabba - Student (of Mkoll)
Leia - Journalist
Luke - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tarkin - Hidden Any (Vault 21 - claimed Spy)
Vader - Probably Town PR
Wedge - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Wicket - Devourer
Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Gaunt - Framer
Mkoll - Hidden Any (Vault 103)
Rawne - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tebow - Sheriff
Brady - Hidden Any or Hidden NCR (Vault 5)
Rodgers - Puppet
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Paul - Puppet
Jin - Town PR (no extra kills in Vault 37 from him. Not Brotherhood)

We need to place: 2 Brotherhood members and 4 Town PRs.

I'm more inclined to agree with this, than whatever Law has to say.

THRE IS JUST NO WAY a student to a WITCH would be harassing a devourer, and then not claiming to be a student to a witch in jail.
Vader is ARMORSMITH.
Luke is the last mafia you're looking for.
I dont think you need to be focusing on who's dangerous player, we need to kill 2 people, and out of those 2 people none should be attacked by BoS, BAM, majority, nobody can lynch monica without mafia help.

[Nina]

Therefore, I'm hoping Han isn't completely fucktarded and witches vig onto Vader, ideally.
We kill 2 low priority motherfuckers to ensure the kills go through, I clean the scummiest one of them and we can pretend its a BOS disguiser.
Maybe BoS even have a disguiser, would be kinda gimped if they didnt.

[Law]

Luke is not mafia. It's Rawne along with Vader or Han. Do you ever even read what other people post?

[Nina]

yes I do, Vader is not scum, Han is witch.
Who do you think is mafia?

[Law]

yes I do, Vader is not scum, Han is witch.
Who do you think is mafia?

LOL. Please then, tell me which Vaults the remaining two mafia belong to.

[Nina]

Thre's not necesarily an oj in vault 9, unless Roger experienced 2 kpn there or something

[Klaus]

Actually, I think Law is correct. I even made the observation that someone in Roger's vault is likely Brotherhood so that every faction would have a fair chance at getting the rewards from that vault.

Out of Han/Vader one is witch and the other is likely Brotherhood.

[Klaus]

Revised list with new observation:

Roger (Monica) - Disguiser
Gaunt - Framer
Law - Actress
Nina - Janitor
Klaus - Ventriloquist
Rodgers - Puppet
Paul - Puppet

Wicket - Devourer

Han - Brotherhood/Witch
Vader - Witch/Brotherhood

Rawne - Brotherhood

Leia - Journalist
Luke - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Tarkin - Hidden Any (Vault 21 - claimed Spy)
Wedge - Hidden Any (Vault 21)
Mkoll - Hidden Any (Vault 103)
Tebow - Sheriff
Brady - Hidden Any or Hidden NCR (Vault 5)
Jin - Town PR (no extra kills in Vault 37 from him. Not Brotherhood)
Jabba - Student (of Mkoll)

[Nina]

I suggest kill Jabba since he votes with town and is definitely not getting protection.
If you're sure about BoS being in vault 9, then kill and clean Luke, he is quite scummy for not claiming and we could pretend he disguised away

[Nina]

Would appreciate Monica to clarify the kpn in her vault

[Law]

I suggest kill Jabba since he votes with town and is definitely not getting protection.
If you're sure about BoS being in vault 9, then kill and clean Luke, he is quite scummy for not claiming and we could pretend he disguised away

Are you suggesting that we insinuate Luke disguised for a second time?

If we wanted to incriminate Luke as scum, we would clean Manning and kill two random townies.

[Nina]

also something important we're missing here.


Landro and Roger are suspicious!

He might be paranoid, but Lando could be the last oj in vault 9, making Vader town.
Not a 100% shot but keep clear of that gambit Klaus. We might not have majority tomorrow

[Law]

Okay, so this is a rough draft of our plan:

Night Actions:

Law - Give gun to Klaus
Gaunt - Frame Wicket
Nina - Clean Manning
Roger - Kill Tarkin
Klaus - Shoot Jin

Tarkin and Jin are definitely town, and neither of them are likely to receive protection. Cleaning Manning lends some legitimacy to Monica's coroner claim, which in turn incriminates Luke. Wicket right now is the most important player in the game for us, so framing him prevents any investigative roles from finding out he is the real Devourer.

Day Actions:

-Rodgers investigates Paul, and finds him to be suspicious.

-Paul role claims Devourer.

-Roger (using Monica's correct prose style this time) claims that her sibling/friend played for her yesterday because she was out of town without internet access.

-If Paul's lynch train starts to gain momentum, the least suspicious of us (Gaunt, Klaus, and myself) will jump on his train.



Anyone have anything else to add?

[Law]

He might be paranoid, but Lando could be the last oj in vault 9, making Vader town.
Not a 100% shot but keep clear of that gambit Klaus. We might not have majority tomorrow



Lando (Sheriff): Killed and maimed by multiple sources. [Night 4]

Come on man, at least try to pay attention to the game. As for Klaus's gambit, it doesn't matter whether or not we have majority. If the town lynches Paul it will insure that we have the majority the next day.

[Klaus]

Klaus: Shoot Wedge
Law: Give gun to Klaus
Gaunt: Frame Wicket
Monica: Shoot Jin
Nina: Clean Manning

Klaus is unlikely to die and we need to keep that KPN.

Wicket is vital to our success and, should Tebow check him, the result will be opposite.

Nina cleaning Manning will put suspicion on Luke and could corroborate Monica's Coroner claim (just use freaking better grammar next time).

Jin is obvious town. Flush him out (probably Citizen). Same with Wedge.

[Nina]

Manning getting devoured
already

[Law]

-If Paul's lynch train starts to gain momentum, the least suspicious of us (Gaunt, Klaus, and myself) will jump on his train.

And by the way, I say this because if Nina and Monica were to jump on Paul's lynch train the town would definitely know something was up and would probably unvote him.

[Klaus]

Tarkin and Jin are definitely town, and neither of them are likely to receive protection. Cleaning Manning lends some legitimacy to Monica's coroner claim, which in turn incriminates Luke. Wicket right now is the most important player in the game for us, so framing him prevents any investigative roles from finding out he is the real Devourer.

Anyone have anything else to add?

Tarkin is town? He claimed spy with such a fishy claim (mafia visited you, Paul, and Wedge). I mean, wtf was that? He is in no way cleared.

[Klaus]

Manning getting devoured
already

Wicket has used up his cleanings (he only gets two and he used them on Yoshimitsu and Biggs). However, in the FAQ, we are allowed to clean jailed targets.

The town will not suspect this. They think we are out of cleanings.

[Nina]

What If Lando was killed by Phoebe?

[Klaus]

Not a 100% shot but keep clear of that gambit Klaus. We might not have majority tomorrow

There's actually no possible way we will have majority tomorrow. In fact, the best we can do is have 4 Town die, leaving 5 Enclave + 1 Witch + 1 Devourer vs 2 Brotherhood + 1 Town-aligned Student + 4 Town, which is 7v7 (we would immediately win in this scenario, assuming Wicket/the Witch does not betray us).

The Paul gambit is to convince everyone to not role claim (the Brotherhood will be all over that) and to either a) cause a no-lynch or b) cause a Paul lynch. Since Paul is just a puppet, we don't lose any of our votes and have 3 KPN the followning night with all Enclave still alive.

[Law]

Tarkin is town? He claimed spy with such a fishy claim (mafia visited you, Paul, and Wedge). I mean, wtf was that? He is in no way cleared.

There is no more room for neutrals, and only one spot for Brotherhood in his Vault, which belongs to Rawne. He is town.

[Nina]

yes. And if Enclave kills either me or monica, someone gets shot, and there is in fact 1 orange left, it's going to be very far from majority.
just saying

[Law]

Oh, and another thing Klaus. For Paul's last will you should leave a message to the witch saying that we know who he is and that if he simply does nothing he will win the game with us.

I forgot about the witch for a second though. It would be cool if he witched Tarkin and made him use his gun on a townie.

[Law]

Oh, and another thing Klaus. For Paul's last will you should leave a message to the witch saying that we know who he is and that if he simply does nothing he will win the game with us.

I forgot about the witch for a second though. It would be cool if he witched Tarkin and made him use his gun on a townie.


Actually, everyone make their last will something like "We know who you are witch. If you simply do nothing you will win the game with us. However, if you mistakenly control one of us, you could cause your own downfall."

[Forum Mafia GM]

Will you be utilising your death note ability tonight?

You never know, someone may actually be killed by a strike force member in their death description for once ^^

[Nina]

dude
we killed lando who went and got shot by phoebe. bam multiple sources

[Law]

Will you be utilising your death note ability tonight?

You never know, someone may actually be killed by a strike force member in their death description for once ^^

Wow, that's fucking funny. I had to double check but yeah, no one we have killed has shown up as being killed by us.

I did forget about the death note though. Let's do that instead of the last wills thing.

[Gaunt]

still think we should take a shot at Leia. There might not even be a doctor you know.

[Nina]

WHy do you want to risk failing to kill when we're close to getting majority

[Gaunt]

because Leia is going to see right through our gambit and ruin it. We should at least signal the devourer to devourer leia, ok compromise?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Would the Enclave like to surrender?

[Gaunt]

Would the Enclave like to surrender?

why would you ask that? We have a very good chance of winning this

[Gaunt]

lol the Brotherhood probably surrendered

[Gaunt]

pussies

[Law]

Would the Enclave like to surrender?

Haha, funny joke. Now go tell the town that anyone who surrenders will gain the privilege of being killed last.


still think we should take a shot at Leia. There might not even be a doctor you know.

1. There are more protective roles than just doctors....
2. Why the hell would we even risk attacking someone who would likely be healed? Right now the only thing we want to accomplish is making town lose the majority. It does not matter who is left alive, only how many are dead.


because Leia is going to see right through our gambit and ruin it. We should at least signal the devourer to devourer leia, ok compromise?

Are you suggesting we do that tomorrow?

[Law]

By the way, if there is a gunsmith/armorsmith in this game it probably is Mkoll. What shall we do with her and Jabba?

[Law]

Also, we need to plan for a worst case scenario. What do we do if Wicket/Paul is dead tomorrow?

[Law]

Actually, I realize now that Mkoll was definitely lying about having a vest. She was trying to scare off potential attackers through WIFOM. Why? Because she is some important town role. I think we might want to kill Mkoll tonight. Maybe Jabba as well.

[Klaus]

The only reason I do not want to shoot Mkoll or Jabba is because the Brotherhood might shoot them. If we had been focusing on who the BoS might shoot each night, we would have at least 1-2 additional kills in our pocket. They will not shoot unknowns because they need that gray area in order to stay alive. They especially will not shoot players from Rawne's vault in case he becomes revealed to the town.

They probably won't risk shooting someone from my vault because they can win with the Devourer and they do not want to risk killing him and reducing that KPN.

That leaves:
-shooting Leia
-shooting Mkoll
-shooting Jabba
-shooting Tebow (I think they might do this tonight)
-shooting Law
-shooting Gaunt (or this)
-shooting Nina
-shooting Jin
-shooting Brady

The top 4 listed are priority targets, but, if the BoS is smart, they'll want to knock the Enclave down a peg and try to force a lynch on one of us tomorrow.

[Law]

The only reason I do not want to shoot Mkoll or Jabba is because the Brotherhood might shoot them. If we had been focusing on who the BoS might shoot each night, we would have at least 1-2 additional kills in our pocket. They will not shoot unknowns because they need that gray area in order to stay alive. They especially will not shoot players from Rawne's vault in case he becomes revealed to the town.

They probably won't risk shooting someone from my vault because they can win with the Devourer and they do not want to risk killing him and reducing that KPN.

That leaves:
-shooting Leia
-shooting Mkoll
-shooting Jabba
-shooting Tebow (I think they might do this tonight)
-shooting Law
-shooting Gaunt (or this)
-shooting Nina
-shooting Jin
-shooting Brady

The top 4 listed are priority targets, but, if the BoS is smart, they'll want to knock the Enclave down a peg and try to force a lynch on one of us tomorrow.


I had thought of that, but if she really is gunsmith do we want to leave that in the BoS's hands? It's a tough call to make.

[Klaus]

I had thought of that, but if she really is gunsmith do we want to leave that in the BoS's hands? It's a tough call to make.

The thing is, we can't stop Mkoll from giving a gun tonight if she's gunsmith.

That is why I suggested signalling to Wicket to devour her tomorrow. That way she won't be able to give a gun.

[Monica]

There is nothing we can realy do towards preventing a potential gunsmith from giving a gun. I'm of the opinion that we should signal for Mkoll to get devoured tommrow, then kill Jaba tommrow night.

[Law]

The thing is, we can't stop Mkoll from giving a gun tonight if she's gunsmith.

That is why I suggested signalling to Wicket to devour her tomorrow. That way she won't be able to give a gun.

Sorry but why is that? Giving items comes after killing.