Day 5: Words, Bullets, Death

[Francine]

I'm hesitant to lynch Francine. If she is Amnesiac, she could be a vital asset against the 5 KPN problem. On the other hand, if she's a neutral killer or mafia, she wants to survive another night to get a free kill off. Even worse is that the other Amnesiac might take a role and Francine will claim that she took it instead, which would give her yet another day to stay alive.

That's the reason I told Manning to take the role of Paul (sheriff in the graveyard), so that even if there are 2 ammesiacs, we both can prove ourselves tomorrow. Still doubt that Manning is amnesiac though.

[Paul]

That's the reason I told Manning to take the role of Paul (sheriff in the graveyard), so that even if there are 2 ammesiacs, we both can prove ourselves tomorrow. Still doubt that Manning is amnesiac though.

Um, fairly certain I'm not a Sheriff in the graveyard.

What role are you planning on taking?

[Gaunt]

Hi sorry, Had a busy last couple days. Emergencies and so on and so forth. Turns out I was bussed last night.

Oh hi there, you should start by posting your analysis and thoughts of what has happened so far. I can understand real life emergencies but if you are going to be here and not contribute anything except "I was bussed" then it is tempting to free lynch you. Contribute pony!

[Jabba]

What he said. Which means you were witched to pick Mkoll as your mentor, not by your own choice. That's quite a bit of selective reading you do, disappearing when someone makes a case against you and return when no one's mentioning it again to join the discussion. Whatever, your fate rests in Mkoll's hands now.

This strikes me as highly suspicious. Insane? Why not paranoid?

By saying Lando was insane, you are saying that Roger is town, who is under the most surveillance right now for having both of his shots witched. You are saying that the witch, who instantly loses the moment she dies, is willing to risk a possible Assault Rifle against her to control the vigilante shot only to shoot another Mafia? I'm suspecting this is some kind of slip here, and that you and Roger are on the same Mafia team.


Students cannot be witched. They are not apart of the Orders or Operations. However, I can still be notified I was witched.

[Francine]

Whoops sorry, Paul, I confused you with Lando.

I'm thinking on talking either Detective or Saboteur. Chances of finding a killing role right now are low, so maybe a Detective would be a better choice.

[Monica]

I want the amnesiac to be Yoda, For reason that i may reveal later.

[Vader]

students cant be witchd noobs. students dont visit.

I do remember reading this somewhere. However, I just checked the FAQ, and it wasn't there. I don't know, maybe I'm dyslexic. I know the student visiting his mentor at night for night chat does not count as a visitation. I did think, though, that the initial taking of the mentor counts. It is as Jabba says, though. It is not listed in the OOP.

Where did it say that Student's taking of a mentor does not count as a visitation, again? I swear I read that somewhere, but now I can't find it.



Vader, why the hell are you questioning Roger? His vigilante shot (which has not been counterclaimed) killed a ventriloquist (and, subsequently, a puppet). It was originally aimed at Jabba who most believe to be a neutral. If he's not town, I'll be surprised.

I already explained this in a previous post.

Roger claims he was witched. Which means the fact that it hit a ventriloquist has nothing to do with his own actions. Second, he is from Vault 9, and one of the members from Vault 9 has the Assault Rifle, not currently being revealed. The witch instantly loses upon dying. So then you're saying the witch is risking losing, because the witch doesn't know who has the Assault Rifle and when it'll be used, just to control the vigilante gun, and it ends up hitting Mafia. This is about the most anti-witch thing one could do.

And that reminds me. You know what else makes Roger suspicious? The fact that he seemed to "know" his shot was redirected at the Ventriloquist. When you are witched, you do not know who your new target is. There is nothing that says that an actual vigilante did not shoot the Vent, and Roger's shot was redirected at Lando.

The fact that you jumped to defend Roger with minimum supporting evidence earns you a scum sticker from me as well.

Also, to clarify. Roger is not the town vigilante. He merely has control of a vigilante gun distributed in our Vault. He has not claimed an actual role. There are no more shots left in the vigilante gun.

[Gaunt]

Abilities: At night you may 'remember' a role in the Graveyard. You will inherit the victory conditions and abilities of that role.

Pertinent rulings: Amnesiac can remember ANY role. If remembering a Cult Leader, the Amnesiac will not inherit the old Cultists but will create a new Cult (same restrictions apply, old Cultists can be converted). It is announced publicly when an Amnesiac remembers a role (but the role itself is not announced).

Bit of a problem, what is to stop Francine the hypothetical amnesiac from taking a scum role? There is a ton of Brotherhood scum dead and maybe Francine tries for one of the cleaned roles and ends up getting a scum role. Or maybe Francine waits until the first confirmed Enclave to die and then hops on the Enclave train.

Of course this is all assuming Francine isn't lying about being an Amnesiac in the first place.

[Leia]

What he said. Which means you were witched to pick Mkoll as your mentor, not by your own choice. That's quite a bit of selective reading you do, disappearing when someone makes a case against you and return when no one's mentioning it again to join the discussion. Whatever, your fate rests in Mkoll's hands now.



This strikes me as highly suspicious. Insane? Why not paranoid?

By saying Lando was insane, you are saying that Roger is town, who is under the most surveillance right now for having both of his shots witched. You are saying that the witch, who instantly loses the moment she dies, is willing to risk a possible Assault Rifle against her to control the vigilante shot only to shoot another Mafia? I'm suspecting this is some kind of slip here, and that you and Roger are on the same Mafia team.

Vader! Very good catch here. I also believed that Roger being witched (and the only person to claim witched) was highly suspicious especially with the veterans assault rifle in play. Also what was to say Roger would shoot tonight? Why has he claimed witched but nobody aside from Jabba can confirm? Leia is intrigued by this Tarkin/Roger connection. I think we should probe it further. Honestly Francine has an easily provable role and we should give her the benefit of the doubt until tomorrow. She can become a detective, and if she does, I would ask her to follow me and tell me who I interviewed to 100% clear her if anybody is in doubt that much.

Tarkin/Roger is highly scummy to me (haven't forgot about the others) but honestly guys. It's like Eddy was detective telling you HEY. Tarkin visited me on the night of my death!! And nobody is paying attention or watching. I believe if Phoebe was not a puppet then Rodgers has to be. He probably did a gambit and tried to expose scum in his vault considering there were so many.

Recap:
-Jabba claimed Mkoll's student, easily confirm able, waiting on Mkoll
-Francine claimed amnesiac, easily confirm able, don't lynch a potential town asset. (Francine would be an idiot to remember a role into the orange mafia)
-Nina situation a bit more complex than the face value we were presented with. Send a sheriff in their direction to help gather more info. The contributions of the vault members will help us in the coming days when scumhunting in the potential absence of reliable sheriffs.
-Wicket/Klaus/Rodgers potential vent. Could/should be shot at night.

I'm sorry I cannot analyze more. I feel like Francine is a terrible lynch.
Leia must sleep soon, but we should start to pile our votes onto Tarkin. If he flips scum, go for Roger next. Tricky to kill at night because of potential kidnapper. I cannot fathom what Tarkin might claim that needs until day 6 to finish collecting info.

Also nobody thought of an arsonist double dousing target Yoshimitsu. Also a possible explanation for the role clean.

[Biggs]

leia wicket/klaus/rodgers is not potential vent, as we had a DEVOURER in our vault gg
the devourer used one of his cleanings last night.

devourer between wicket/klaus.

[Leia]

I want the amnesiac to be Yoda, For reason that i may reveal later.

Monica that's really unnecessary. Smart scum (aka not orange mafia) is going to target you tonight for these types of posts so if it is that important to you to keep dropping hints you may just need to reveal what you mean now. Clearly. So the amnesiac who wants to be as helpful as possible knows very clearly what is expected of them.

@Biggs why not Paul for devourer? I read in the long chat excerpt that he recommended acting scummy to everyone no doubt looking for a good jail target.

[Paul]

Roger claims he was witched. Which means the fact that it hit a ventriloquist has nothing to do with his own actions. Second, he is from Vault 9, and one of the members from Vault 9 has the Assault Rifle, not currently being revealed. The witch instantly loses upon dying. So then you're saying the witch is risking losing, because the witch doesn't know who has the Assault Rifle and when it'll be used, just to control the vigilante gun, and it ends up hitting Mafia. This is about the most anti-witch thing one could do.

Hmm...I forgot about the Veteran gun. You're right, it doesn't make sense for the witch to risk getting blown to pieces just to re-direct one possible kill.


The fact that you jumped to defend Roger with minimum supporting evidence earns you a scum sticker from me as well.

Please, people have been calling me scum all game, even when I am the only one openly contributing (check out Vault 66 for proof). I figured that the Vigilante trying to shoot Jabba/Bragg would be proof enough, but he didn't intend to shoot Bragg, so I shouldn't be giving him credit for it.


Also, to clarify. Roger is not the town vigilante. He merely has control of a vigilante gun distributed in our Vault. He has not claimed an actual role. There are no more shots left in the vigilante gun.

Was that a role claim? Do you know of a town vigilante?

Leia: Francine's amnesiac role will not be revealed to the town, it will merely be announced. It would take at least 2 more days to confirm her role to the town.

-vote Tarkin

[Paul]

@Biggs why not Paul for devourer? I read in the long chat excerpt that he recommended acting scummy to everyone no doubt looking for a good jail target.

I can give you a role claim if you want, but you'll be terribly disappointed. Considering I'm under little suspicion right now (as I should be), me role claiming will just hurt us more.

I'm tired of being thrown under the bus for being in a vault full of scum and lurkers. Especially from someone who suggested hiding all of their roles from all the other players in the game as a means of "safety." We still don't even know if you're a corrupt journalist, Leia.

[Luke]

I think its safe to say that Leia is town journalist. The 2nd one that didn't interview in vault is more likely to be the corrupt one. Also can anyone confirm if any of the vaults prevented night actions or maybe our Journalist was one of the technicians? We need people to stop lurking and put out some informatoin.

I want to know why no one in my vault pressure Tarkin at all. He also didn't post a single time in the Day 3 chat in vault.

I've decided to not reveal Rawnes role claim. However I wanted to let people know that Owen, our citizen who died night 2, had claimed that he suspected Rawne to be a godfather. He was killed the night after claiming this so that might mean that he either

-was killed for being on the right track
-was killed for being a town leader of sorts. He led most of the conversation / lynch in day 2 discussion.
-was killed to make us THINK that he was on the right track with Rawne being godfather and get a lynch against him.

I think its more likely that we have a kidnapper from vault 21 because Owen was a fairly obvious town. A bus driver would have known to swap him and keep him out of harms way or at least make the mafia worried about swaps. If the mafia was worried about swaps they wouldve likely targeted people who they think are town but are less likely to be swapped.

If it's a kidnapper, they know they don't have to worry about their target being swapped and can target whoever they want to mislead investigative roles.

I want to hear from Tarkin and Rawne. Also Mkoll to confirm jabbas claim.

[Wedge]

going on a three hour trip. probably won't be back until after that. sorry but nothing i can do about it.

[Manning]

Popping in to say that I know for a fact who I'm going to remember to be now.

[Monica]

Monica that's really unnecessary. Smart scum (aka not orange mafia) is going to target you tonight for these types of posts so if it is that important to you to keep dropping hints you may just need to reveal what you mean now. Clearly. So the amnesiac who wants to be as helpful as possible knows very clearly what is expected of them.

@Biggs why not Paul for devourer? I read in the long chat excerpt that he recommended acting scummy to everyone no doubt looking for a good jail target.

Yea, I'm kind of tired and not 100% thinking, Yoda's role was a hitman, And i feel that we need one desperatly right now for most of the people who the town can shoot at night of who we think is scum, Not important to be lynched. If in fact Yoda was killed by (Red mafia i believe it was) Then I'm assuming that they are out of cleans. If the devourer didn't clean their last target. I'm assuming you can guess my role off of that ^^

[Han]

ok i'm back

why did that guy say earlier that amnesiac role remember was revealed to all when its not?

[Mkoll]

Aye, sorry everyone. A some point last night the little lady wanted to do some drinkin'. Needless to say, I just slept for about 9 hours which is a hell of a lot more than I'm used to.
Yes, Jabba is my student. I didn't really wanna claim it so quickly, because scum tend to make the most mistakes in day chat when they feel comfortable (i.e they think they have an easy mislynch) but it's all good.

[Mkoll]

that is exactly what i mean when i say u guys are bad scumhunters. just lynch wicket gg
Yeah, because you can actively scumhunt a lurker.
You're really starting to piss me off. I can get real ignorant what I'm pissed off.

[Law]

Aye, sorry everyone. A some point last night the little lady wanted to do some drinkin'. Needless to say, I just slept for about 9 hours which is a hell of a lot more than I'm used to.
Yes, Jabba is my student. I didn't really wanna claim it so quickly, because scum tend to make the most mistakes in day chat when they feel comfortable (i.e they think they have an easy mislynch) but it's all good.

Did he select you last night?

[Mkoll]

Popping in to say that I know for a fact who I'm going to remember to be now.
Still don't believe you.

[Mkoll]

Did he select you last night?
Aye, that he did.

[Law]

Aye, that he did.

I find that hard to believe. As I said earlier, no unalligned student would pursue a lynch as fervently as Jabba did with Brostin.

[Leia]

It's not that hard to believe. Jabba has an easily provable role so he, if anyone, can make a huge commotion because if he is about to die he can easily prove himself. I believe there may be two amnesiacs and two students for now.

I have an idea about the amnesiacs. Both of you remember to be a hitman and offer me a contract. Journalist Leia cannot be role blocked, and I am confirmed town because after apportioning the vault role list neutrals there is NO room for me to be another neutral. If I am only offered one contract, I'll report back and figure out which one of you to lynch.

Additionally, Monica were you devourer jailed? Why do you believe the janitor used his last charge last night on Yoshimitsu?

[Luke]

Since Rodgers has already revealed that he is sheriff. Can you please post what you found last night?

We need to decide if you are sane or not. I'm thinking you likely are the confirmed sane sheriff.

[Jabba]

All in all guys, I wanted Brostin to be my mentor. I didn't want him to suicide.

[Leia]

Tarkin if you are town, claim NOW so we can move on to pressure the next suspect. With little over 24 hours left in day we need to consolidate our evidence and start moving full speed ahead with our lynch. I don't think Tarkin is the kidnapper, but Leia is on vacation and hasn't access to her notes to figure this out.

This honestly should have been done in your vault.

Also, if Francine is amnesiac (seems consistent with her play thus far), Rodgers lied and is probably a red mafia puppet.

Doc on me the confirmed town, or Monica because we need as much info as possible on the cleaned roles. Honestly you should have tried to be more discreet and trusted I would stop by to interview you after you had a few days to collect some reports. To anyone who wants to be interviewed, you may leave a subtle hint. I implore you not to be so blatant and make yourself a target.

[Jabba]

I sorta wish we got an updated player list and role list.

Sucks having to do it myself.

[Monica]

It's not that hard to believe. Jabba has an easily provable role so he, if anyone, can make a huge commotion because if he is about to die he can easily prove himself. I believe there may be two amnesiacs and two students for now.

I have an idea about the amnesiacs. Both of you remember to be a hitman and offer me a contract. Journalist Leia cannot be role blocked, and I am confirmed town because after apportioning the vault role list neutrals there is NO room for me to be another neutral. If I am only offered one contract, I'll report back and figure out which one of you to lynch.

Additionally, Monica were you devourer jailed? Why do you believe the janitor used his last charge last night on Yoshimitsu?

No i wasn't jailed. How else would i know about Yoda. But i do agree about Leia's idea with the amnesiac's

[Luke]

Since Rodgers has already revealed that he is sheriff. Can you please post what you found last night?

We need to decide if you are sane or not. I'm thinking you likely are the confirmed sane sheriff.

Nevermind. Post found.

@Leia Rodgers already outed Ben as a Puppet. However I'm starting to think he might be a paranoid sheriff. I checked his posts and can't find anything about him finding anyone else.
Also to the Tarkin thing. Everyone lurked. It was sad, we didn't even get 3 pages in the vault chat for day 3. Tarkin didn't post at all. Only people that actually contributed was Vick, Wedge, Rawne and myself. Yeah I also don't think hes kidnapper because he claimed later on that he was bussed day 3 (never posted in the day 3 chat) and kidnappers / bus can't self target and no one in our vault counter claimed. Unless one of our many lurkers just felt that they didn't need to counterclaim.

[Mkoll]

I find that hard to believe. As I said earlier, no unalligned student would pursue a lynch as fervently as Jabba did with Brostin.
Find it as hard to believe as you like.
I don't really give a fuck what you think.
;)

[Luke]

I'd say Mkoll was a good mentor choice because of the low chance of scum in his vault. Makes me think Jabba was hoping to find a mafia (i hope he wasnt planning on just trolling) and use the student role as a fall back. He failed because of how retarded Brostin was and had to resort to trolling to keep himself alive until he could prove his role.

[Jabba]

I'd say Mkoll was a good mentor choice because of the low chance of scum in his vault. Makes me think Jabba was hoping to find a mafia (i hope he wasnt planning on just trolling) and use the student role as a fall back. He failed because of how retarded Brostin was and had to resort to trolling to keep himself alive until he could prove his role.


You're over looking it. I just wanted to tunnel Brostin and surprise him by becoming his student. I never doubted he was Sheriff for one second.

It was the ultimate troll gambit.

[Jabba]

But now, since I consider myself part of the town, I don't have that flexibility. I've been reexamining posts from yesterday that I did not look into and have done the same for today.

[Vader]

Was that a role claim? Do you know of a town vigilante?

No. I merely stated that because apparently some people thought Roger was the vigilante. I don't want the doctor protecting someone he's not supposed to. Though you fishing for the knowledge of whether a vigilante is present or not is pretty fishy, too.

[Luke]

You're over looking it. I just wanted to tunnel Brostin and surprise him by becoming his student. I never doubted he was Sheriff for one second.

It was the ultimate troll gambit.

lol....guess I was wrong, trolling hard.

[Luke]

No. I merely stated that because apparently some people thought Roger was the vigilante. I don't want the doctor protecting someone he's not supposed to. Though you fishing for the knowledge of whether a vigilante is present or not is pretty fishy, too.

Roger claimed to recieve the gun in Vault 9 and also being witched into killing heihachi (citizen).

[Mkoll]

Roger claimed to recieve the gun in Vault 9 and also being witched into killing heihachi (citizen).
Was the death description that of a vigi kill?

[Luke]

Was the death description that of a vigi kill?

not sure. I just have that he claimed to have a gun in my notes. I'll check. I think it was mysterious stranger, but not 100%.

[Luke]

Role List for Vault 9:

Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen - Heihachi, Killed by a Mysterious Stranger [Night 1]

Found it.

[Roger]

Was the death description that of a vigi kill?

"Killed by Mysterious Stranger" is the official DD for a vigilante kill.

[Monica]

Role List for Vault 9:

Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen - Heihachi, Killed by a Mysterious Stranger [Night 1]

Found it.

Was there any other kills that night? or just the Vig kill? I can't remember exactly from your vault

[Luke]

Found it.

Was there any other kills that night? or just the Vig kill? I can't remember exactly from your vault[/QUOTE]
Not my vault. I was vault 21.

Heihachi was the only person to die from their vault though. (Vault 9)

[Luke]

jesus. these quotes are getting confusing by the random [/quote...in there. Apologies I asked the gm to fix it.

[Luke]

Vote Fluttershy

Such a lurkfest.

Anyways, Fluttershy claimed Sheriff

There were only 7 people in Vault 9. With Lando dead and revealing Sheriff I highly doubt that Fluttershy is also sheriff. Just seems way too unlikely for her to be town. People not wanting to freelynch Fluttershy better have damned good reasons.

[Rodgers]

wow leia, WOW.

u believe lying neutral over me, the sheriff?

i cant beleive this town. this town is SO BAD. i find scum u dont lynch scum. night one i check biggs, he not suspicious. night two i check ben and he came up suspicious. we lynch him, he's puppet! last night i check francine and she came up "SUSPISCIOUS"

francine said she was DREAMER and then said she lied and had news that would "blow ur socks off" especially about brady and jabba, but then all she said is she is AMNESIAC. and leia believes HER over ME. :evil:

first u convince other sheriff to SUICIDE. now you are trying to get town to SHOOT ME. leia u are TERRIBLE at MAFIA.

francine is SUSPICIOUS. she is SCUM. i vote FRANCINE

-vote francine

[Rodgers]

i am SO MAD right now. i will not give leia the satisfsaction of me suiciding like the other sheriff.

leia LEARN TO PLAY :evil:

[Law]

Vote Fluttershy

Such a lurkfest.

Anyways, Fluttershy claimed Sheriff

There were only 7 people in Vault 9. With Lando dead and revealing Sheriff I highly doubt that Fluttershy is also sheriff. Just seems way too unlikely for her to be town. People not wanting to freelynch Fluttershy better have damned good reasons.

Good point. Fluttershy please tell us all of your night results.

[Gaunt]

Rogers grammar makes my brain hurt

[Rodgers]

Rogers grammar makes my brain hurt

i am sorry. i am just really mad at leia trying to get me shot tonight.

why would TOWN journalist try to get someone to SHOOT THE SHERIFF? in order to confirm my results u want town to SHOOT ME? why dont u kill the person who SAYS THEY ARE NOT TOWN?

[Rawne]

So it looks like Fluttershy finally posted, but didn't give results or anything other than "I was bussed" despite the sheriff claim. But she should have been able to check someone if she were a sheriff. Results please?

Rodgers, did Biggs claim student before or after you said he was not suspicious? Based on your results you can only be a sane sheriff at this point (assuming you are telling the truth about being sheriff).

As for Vault 21 stuff, Tarkin can't be the kidnapper if Owen and I were bussed and he was lured by Eddy. It's Brees or Vick. I'm thinking Brees because all he's done this game is lurk and bandwagon on votes.

[Rodgers]

whatever. i am going to go play some skyrim for a little bit.

i will be back later

francine is SUSPICIOUS. i do not trust LEIA.

[Rawne]

As for Vault 21 stuff, Tarkin can't be the kidnapper if Owen and I were bussed and he was lured by Eddy. It's Brees or Vick. I'm thinking Brees because all he's done this game is lurk and bandwagon on votes.

Oh and if Tarkin is the killer of Eddy then he couldn't have bussed people that night anyway.

[Rodgers]

So it looks like Fluttershy finally posted, but didn't give results or anything other than "I was bussed" despite the sheriff claim. But she should have been able to check someone if she were a sheriff. Results please?

Rodgers, did Biggs claim student before or after you said he was not suspicious? Based on your results you can only be a sane sheriff at this point (assuming you are telling the truth about being sheriff).

As for Vault 21 stuff, Tarkin can't be the kidnapper if Owen and I were bussed and he was lured by Eddy. It's Brees or Vick. I'm thinking Brees because all he's done this game is lurk and bandwagon on votes.

i said biggs was not suspicious to phoebe and lei and then he said i was right and that he was student.

leia ALSO said that i was orange mafia puppet who bussed my own puppet. then orange vent died and she now says i am OTHER vent. make up UR MIND. i am NOT scum.

[Luke]

whatever. i am going to go play some skyrim for a little bit.

i will be back later

francine is SUSPICIOUS. i do not trust LEIA.

You realize Leia is at the worst a corrupt Journalist? The only people that from her vaults thats roles aren't public are Tebow and Mkoll. I think you could be the sane sheriff.

Francine was acting suspicious yesterday with the random dreamer claim but if she is amnesiac she can prove it tonight if she follows Leia's plan.

@Rawne - What do you have to say about Owen's death? He had a pretty strong claim against you and conveniently died that night. I don't want you to reveal, but NO ONE on day 3 confirmed your role which to me seems pretty suspicious.

[Luke]

i said biggs was not suspicious to phoebe and lei and then he said i was right and that he was student.

leia ALSO said that i was orange mafia puppet who bussed my own puppet. then orange vent died and she now says i am OTHER vent. make up UR MIND. i am NOT scum.

I think that all of the puppets in your Vault are now dead. We've got a brotherhood vent and 2 brotherhood puppets dead from your vault.

[Rawne]

Here's what I think; Owen assumed whoever had bussed him was a bus driver (the possibility of a kidnapper never got suggested AFAIK) who had saved him from death N1 because he assumed an attack. Then, once I revealed that I was also bussed, he assumed I got attacked, which took me by surprise because I was not attacked that night. Then, on N2, a mafia member targeted Owen while the kidnapper, either from being on the same team as the killer or guessing that the other mafia would go for Owen (the only confirmed town at that point), did not bus him to safety and let him die.

There was a post on day 3 by you that I didn't get to respond to in time, and maybe if I had responded to it, it would have made my case stronger a bit. I'm not sure how much more I can say without inadvertently revealing my role.

[Biggs]

-vote francine.

rogers, can you check wicket tonight? It's between wicket/klaus/paul for devourer (in order of my suspicions)

IF FRANCINE FLIPS SCUM (SUSPICIOUS) THEN ROGERS IS SANE SHERIFF AND PROTECTIVE ROLES NEED TO BE ON ROGERS.
HE HAS ALREADY HAD 2 CORRECT RESULTS SO I THINK HE IS LIKELY SANE.

-vote Francine

Also, I'm tired of people posting blatant lies about game mechanics, and what happened in our vault (especially from people who werent in it). Wicket was one of the most active in our vault, he is NOT a lurker.
Students cannot get witched blocked or anything. They dont visit ever. I asked luna.

lol mkoll threatening to tunnel me like he did to brostin. i so scurrred. ur scumhunting on brostin was so good bro

if i get cleaned tonight it was devourer wicket gg

[Romo]

-vote Francine

Romo does not compute... even with short posts. I shall do my part nonetheless.

[Wedge]

vote francine
So we have come to a conclusion that there was a kidnapper in our vault?

[Jabba]

Can you modkeel Romo?

[Mkoll]

Can you modkeel Romo?
This.
He's way beyond lurking. He's simply not playing.

[Mkoll]

lol mkoll threatening to tunnel me like he did to brostin. i so scurrred. ur scumhunting on brostin was so good bro

if i get cleaned tonight it was devourer wicket gg
I didn't threaten anything, I was simply telling you what happened to the last dickface who acted like a dickface.
My vault has been responsible for 3 scum kills so far. How about you?
If you were such a "ZOMG PRO SCUMHUNTERRRR" then you would have been able to convince your vault of at least 1 kill.
Shut the fuck up and sit down, child.

[Jin]

My.Mind.Is.Blowing.Up.Because.Of.Jabba.

Hang on, let me get this straight.

You were O.K with Brostin suiciding and you pushed for a town NKer to Brostin in case he didn't suicide?

And you wanted to join a faction that would have been weakened by your very action?

*Brain splatters over the floor*

[Jin]

Also, I was NOT the technician for vault 37 N1 and N2.
I voted Yoda D1 and skipped D2 vote.

[Mkoll]

My.Mind.Is.Blowing.Up.Because.Of.Jabba.

Hang on, let me get this straight.

You were O.K with Brostin suiciding and you pushed for a town NKer to Brostin in case he didn't suicide?

And you wanted to join a faction that would have been weakened by your very action?

*Brain splatters over the floor*
Hey man, at least he's doing something unlike your lurking ass.
35 posts don't hold a ton of weight right now, just sayin.

[Jin]

Hey man, at least he's doing something unlike your lurking ass.
35 posts don't hold a ton of weight right now, just sayin.

So I'm not credible because of low post counts?
Shall we hand the right to lynch to whoever has the most posts?

[Mkoll]

So I'm not credible because of low post counts?
Shall we hand the right to lynch to whoever has the most posts?
Nice. Blow what I said completely out of proportion.
All I was saying is that you don't contribute, therefore making the game less fun for everyone else.
Grow some fucking balls and speak your mind.

[Brady]

im gay

[Han]

i knew it!

[Han]

also flutter shy claimed sheriff just saying

[Mkoll]

im gay
See?
I'll bet that felt good, didn't it?

[Mkoll]

also flutter shy claimed sheriff just saying
If Fluttershy is a sheriff, he's a shitty one.
We're better off getting concrete info from his death than having a sheriff alive who isn't playing the fucking game.

[Leia]

Can someone kindly make a vote tally so we can see where we're at? Lurking town is killing us here.

Leia believes Rodgers is scum as red puppet but if everyone really wants to lynch Francine so be it. I'd like to see where we're at, but I can't make the tally as I'm on vacation with limited Internet. T.T

[Monica]

Can someone kindly make a vote tally so we can see where we're at? Lurking town is killing us here.

Leia believes Rodgers is scum as red puppet but if everyone really wants to lynch Francine so be it. I'd like to see where we're at, but I can't make the tally as I'm on vacation with limited Internet. T.T
Yea, It does seem like there is a lot of lurkers, Where is Klaus for the tally's when you need him? Anyways, I'll put up a tally in a second, I just have to count. Every vote.

[Mkoll]

Riding through this world... all alone
God takes your soul... you're on your own.



Anyone?

[Nina]

hi guys having fun

[Wicket]

^ remember her face, she will be the free lynch for tomorrow.

Well, the same thing will happen to me, i guess. Nevermind. I have a really tight schedule right now. So it's really hard for me to keep track of this game anymore. I tried to get myself replaced already. But there is no one left who could replace me. :sad:

-vote Fluttershy


Biggs you are stupid. Like always. Connecting 2 dots to a line is all you can do :p. You are wrong nonetheless though.

[Wicket]

Ok after rereading the day chat a second time. I tend to believe that our student / Mentor claimers are 2 Mafia members who cover for the other if possible. Or Ventrilloquists and puppets. Just take 2 puppets and let them claim Student and Mentor. Seems like a good idea for the role. 2 Puppets is OP!

Still i don't get it why they focus on me though. "shrugs" Do i look like i can kill somebody? Why does nobody hug me. :(

-vote Biggs


You are not a good specimen of your colour, ... BRO!

[Jin]

Jabba's student claim stillmakes me want to puke...
I'll just settle on him being a level 10 troll student for now.

He being a puppet is moderately unlikely, though I'll add in WIFOM and say 50-50.

I'll take my vote of Jabba FOR NOW. I'll remember the "student" who pushed so hard for lynches.

-unvote Jabba

Francine, on the other hand has the testimony of a sheriff against him.
I suppose this is the lynch to test the sheriff's sanity.

-vote Francine

[Leia]

Guys, can someone please do a vote tally!? I'm out of town on vacation ffs and I'm even posting more than some. Shame on you.

Making a tally is prohibitively hard from my phone. I'll be back in full force by day 6, but for now we need someone to step up and help lead and follow through with whatever lynch we are currently pursuing. Please someone make a vote tally and step up. This is ridiculous.

[Boba]

hi guys having fun

Since Nina has posted basically nothing over the past two game days, do we get to free lynch her tomorrow?

Since the day is almost over, I would like to restate the following to anyone who can investigate, shoot, jail (in case there is no lynch.), roleblock or follow.

Please follow Nina, Beru or Jin. There are still two (or more) Mafia members left from Vault 37 and they need to be found out/taken care of asap.

Nina should be looked at first but two out of those three has to be Mafia. I believe Jabba and trust Ross since the Mafia voted for Ross to become Tech on Night 2 instead of Nina (who we wanted to become Tech. Read my earlier post for further proof.)

Thank you.

[Nina]

Boba ur an idiot *facepalm*

[Boba]

Boba ur an idiot *facepalm*

And you speak up the second you get called out.

Hello definition of a lurker/scum.

Let's take care of Nina tonight.

[Klaus]

Klaus is back, ja! Give him minute to do tally.

[Klaus]

Klaus Tally

Gaunt [2 votes]: Brady {#10}, Tebow {#51}
Jabba [1 vote]: Brees {#62}
Wicket [1 vote]: Biggs {#70}
Francine [15 votes]: Brady {#105}, Rodgers {#106}, Gaunt {#134}, Law {#136}, Mkoll {#156}, Jabba {#158}, Roger {#182}, Boba {#212}, Monica {#220}, Klaus {#232}, Manning {#236}, Biggs {#309}, Romo {#310}, Wedge {#311}, Jin {#331}
Tarkin [3 votes]: Leia {#207}, Luke {#235}, Paul {#262}
Biggs [1 vote]: Wicket {#330}


Fluttershy[8 votes]: Klaus {#17}, Monica {#20}, Wedge {#63}, Rawne {#77}, Mkoll {#125}, Jin {#198}, Luke {#296}, Wicket {#329}


Since zere are 33 players (and two puppets), votes to lynch is 16 (33-2 = 31 / 2 = 15.5). Puppet proof votes is 18.

Francine is at L-1.

Fluttershy is at L-8.

And to zhose who find me suspicious, Klaus could have not done tally at all and no one would know anything because everyone too afraid to post tally. But Klaus is not!

Also, Klaus suspicious of that weird voting block at 309, 310, and 311. Wtf is that? Especially from players who barely post anything (Romo, Wedge).

[Han]

need a hammer vote? why not Han?

-vote Francine

[Han]

and yeah I'd bet Flutter is scum too so -vote Fluttershy

just agreeing with evertyone else here but jabba is lying through his teeth his reactions yesterday were definitely suspicious once he knew that brostin was going to suicide

it really makes no sense to try and implicate your future tutor

[Rawne]

You forgot my vote on Tarkin a while back, though it doesn't matter now, apparently.

Well now that Francine is hammered, we might as well discuss what happens next. Should Francine turn up as benign neutral/town, someone shoot Rodgers, as the only possible type of sheriff he can be right now is sane assuming all of his results are correct.

As far as other suspicious people go, Nina and Tarkin still have yet to respond to accusations against them. They are good suspects to check. As are all the lurkers who show up and just vote, or post nothing substantial.

Wicket, do you think there is a devourer in your vault? If so, who do you think it is? Biggs, as indicated by your vote against him?

[Wedge]

Hi. Spending time with the family. And working for them. Hard to find a lot of time to be active. Hell I still haven't read the whole day thread.
I'm on, and have been on, my phone. It was just coincidence that we voted right after the other. I normally wouldn't have voted but you guys know what's going on and I don't. Will try and read to catch up before night ends.

[Gaunt]

Are you sure it is 16 votes to lynch? I've lost track of how many players are alive lol.

Now then what happens next depends on what Francine flips. If Francine flips scum then there better be a healing role on Rogers, if Francine flips Amnesiac then it will be curious to see what happens. With the player base of roughly 30ish people it would be highly improbable that a framer framed Francine the same night Rogers checked him but still possible given how amazingly scummy Francine acted.

If it isn't a Framer does that mean Rogers fake claimed Sheriff? If so is Rogers scum or just town being dumb? I fake claimed sheriff before as town, it didn't mean I was evil but it is a ballsy move for sure for scum to fake claim sheriff. Possible Rogers is a puppet if that is the case because the puppet would be the most likely to make a high risk gambit but only time will tell.

[Luke]

You forgot my vote on Tarkin a while back, though it doesn't matter now, apparently.

Well now that Francine is hammered, we might as well discuss what happens next. Should Francine turn up as benign neutral/town, someone shoot Rodgers, as the only possible type of sheriff he can be right now is sane assuming all of his results are correct.

As far as other suspicious people go, Nina and Tarkin still have yet to respond to accusations against them. They are good suspects to check. As are all the lurkers who show up and just vote, or post nothing substantial.

Wicket, do you think there is a devourer in your vault? If so, who do you think it is? Biggs, as indicated by your vote against him?
I don't think we should shoot him if he is wrong. There could easily be a framer. A lot of people already thought Francine was suspicious on day 3 which makes him an easy target for framers. If he was mafia and framed he wouldve came up as not suspicious. Just some food for thought.

Also we can't be 100% sure that the vault 21 has a kidnapper or bus driver.

Pretty sad all the lurkers here. I work every day of the week and still find time to post. It's also sad the people that got the radio interview and still haven't posted....

I'll go ahead and join the votes against francine in case of puppets.
unvote Tarkin
vote Francine

[Rawne]

I do agree information is needed on Beru and Jin, though. As do (imo) Brees, Wicket, Paul, Fluttershy (in the event she isn't free lynched), Romo, Wedge, and Tebow. I don't know how active all of them were in the vault stages of the game, but today and on day 4 none of them contributed much, if at all. All of them have various degrees of scumminess, though, so choose wisely.

@Luke: derp. A framer managing to frame Francine and Rodgers checking her the same night is somewhat unlikely, though. If there were a bus driver in our vault, I still don't understand why he didn't try to save Owen. Maybe Owen was bussed into death, but two people already claimed bussed that night.

[Klaus]

The chance of Fluttershy being Sheriff is very low, ja? She was interviewed. When asked for results, she produce none. All she claim is bussed. Klaus very suspicious and suggest free lynching her because she does not zeem town.

Rodgers is a tricky case. If Francine come up neutral, Rodgers is either scum of zome sort or Francine was framed. I would rather wait for results of lynch before trying to figure out that problem, ja?

Like Rawne said, what happen to all the interviewed people? Jin still give little information other than he does not trust Jabba. Manning only came on to vote, as did Brees. Not sure if Tebow has even posted, nor Beru. And is Ross still alive?

[Luke]

I do agree information is needed on Beru and Jin, though. As do (imo) Brees, Wicket, Paul, Fluttershy (in the event she isn't free lynched), Romo, Wedge, and Tebow. I don't know how active all of them were in the vault stages of the game, but today and on day 4 none of them contributed much, if at all. All of them have various degrees of scumminess, though, so choose wisely.

@Luke: derp. A framer managing to frame Francine and Rodgers checking her the same night is somewhat unlikely, though. If there were a bus driver in our vault, I still don't understand why he didn't try to save Owen. Maybe Owen was bussed into death, but two people already claimed bussed that night.

I just like to know all possible options. I think its more likely that Francine is scum and Rodgers is our sane sheriff. The bus/kidnapper could just be a bad player. It has to be Brees or Vick. However I doubt that they would roleclaim because a busdriver is a pretty easy target for mafia and a Kidnapper also wont reveal.

I know Brees wasn't active at all in our vault. Wedge was though. All of Brees posts were about how he didn't know what he should do and being confused about roles. Hasn't added anything of importance so is suspicious to me.

Also if you haven't voted to lynch Fluttershy please explain yourself. He claimed sheriff in a vault that already has a confirmed dead sheriff. Possible, but unlikely in a 7 person vault. People need to quit lurking and get to voting. We have 4 hours of daylight left.

[Tebow]

-Vote Fluttershy
Too many sheriffs around here anyways.

[Law]

I just like to know all possible options. I think its more likely that Francine is scum and Rodgers is our sane sheriff. The bus/kidnapper could just be a bad player. It has to be Brees or Vick. However I doubt that they would roleclaim because a busdriver is a pretty easy target for mafia and a Kidnapper also wont reveal.

I know Brees wasn't active at all in our vault. Wedge was though. All of Brees posts were about how he didn't know what he should do and being confused about roles. Hasn't added anything of importance so is suspicious to me.

Also if you haven't voted to lynch Fluttershy please explain yourself. He claimed sheriff in a vault that already has a confirmed dead sheriff. Possible, but unlikely in a 7 person vault. People need to quit lurking and get to voting. We have 4 hours of daylight left.

I'm here, but as of now there isn't much to say. Francine has been hammered, and we can't really discuss much else until her role is revealed. As for Fluttershy, I initially did not want to free-lynch her (and I explained why we shouldn't have as well), but that was before I realize she and Lando were in the same Vault. Right now I am waiting for her to provide her night results, and if she does not provide them by the end of the day I will vote to free-lynch her.

[Monica]

I'm here, but as of now there isn't much to say. Francine has been hammered, and we can't really discuss much else until her role is revealed. As for Fluttershy, I initially did not want to free-lynch her (and I explained why we shouldn't have as well), but that was before I realize she and Lando were in the same Vault. Right now I am waiting for her to provide her night results, and if she does not provide them by the end of the day I will vote to free-lynch her.

Fluttershy has had plenty of time to reveal her findings. Over 2 days now, All she has claimed was that she was bus driven, If she wanted to save her self she would have said her findings right there and then

[Monica]

I would like to go back to the amnesiac's for a bit. If you guys are honestly amnesiac's, Then remember Yoda's role tonite, As i said earlier he is a hit man, And we need some of them to get rid of the scum at night that we are less bothered with to lynch during the day. If there is a doc, It would be appreciated if you could heal me tonite as im going to find out Yoshi's role which will help out. Unless someone else major comes up or i get asked any questions, I will most likely be back with in an hour before the hammer strikes.
Leia, You got your gun, I suggest you shoot someone who you think is scum *Cough Nina*

[Jabba]

I know I'm not the only one who noticed Nina's grammar drastically change.

[Jabba]

Seems Nina is a puppet.

[Jabba]

-vote Fluttershy

[Roger]

-Vote Fluttershy

Doesn't contribute at all anyway, and we already have one person who flipped Sheriff

[Gaunt]

Pressure -Vote Fluttershy until she gives us useful information.

[Vader]

There could easily be a framer. A lot of people already thought Francine was suspicious on day 3 which makes him an easy target for framers. If he was mafia and framed he wouldve came up as not suspicious. Just some food for thought.

This is exactly what makes me suspicious of the train on Francine. Nobody even mentioned this possibility until AFTER Francine was hammered. I was going to keep my trap shut and see if anyone tries to defend her with this reasoning, but nope. The fact that Leia tried so hard to push the lynch in the other direction, but half the people didn't even bother with it and just voted Francine makes me doubt which way she'll flip.

And to make sure this isn't something stupid.

If a Jester is free lynched, it does NOT count towards his win condition, right?

[Monica]

This is exactly what makes me suspicious of the train on Francine. Nobody even mentioned this possibility until AFTER Francine was hammered. I was going to keep my trap shut and see if anyone tries to defend her with this reasoning, but nope. The fact that Leia tried so hard to push the lynch in the other direction, but half the people didn't even bother with it and just voted Francine makes me doubt which way she'll flip.

And to make sure this isn't something stupid.

If a Jester is free lynched, it does NOT count towards his win condition, right?

It was answered on the first page. it counts as a MOD KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Or something like that.

[Leia]

-vote Francine

-vote Fluttershy

Let's do this! Seriously doc on Monica or confirmed town Leia.
And yes, I will shoot Nina tonight.

[Leia]

Where the ffffffff is Tebow.
Honestly.
I want Romo and everyone else who refuses to contribute substance up for free lynch tomorrow. It's honestly not enough to just radio interview them because there is no incentive to NOT lurk if you can just radio interview and be saved. This game only works if a majority of people are present and not lurking, at least for town. Fluttershy if you are town shame on you.

[Luke]

People who havent voted to Freelynch Fluttershy so far

Boba
Tarkin
Vader
Ross
Francine
Vick
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Manning
Romo
Law - Reason giving, not voted yet.
Nina
Paul
Han - Fix your color please.


If you are on the list, please explain why you are not voting to freelynch fluttershy. He has claimed sheriff without givnig any results and with another Sheriff dying in his vault. 2 sheriffs in 7 people does not seem likely. If you are not voting, I find it suspicious since Fluttershy is not

Klaus Tally UPDATED

Gaunt [2 votes]: Brady {#10}, Tebow {#51}
Jabba [1 vote]: Brees {#62}
Wicket [1 vote]: Biggs {#70}
Francine [17 votes]: Brady {#105}, Rodgers {#106}, Gaunt {#134}, Law {#136}, Mkoll {#156}, Jabba {#158}, Roger {#182}, Boba {#212}, Monica {#220}, Klaus {#232}, Manning {#236}, Biggs {#309}, Romo {#310}, Wedge {#311}, Jin {#331}, Han (#338 ), Luke (#343), Leia (#358)
Tarkin [3 votes]: Leia {#207}, Paul {#262}, Rawne (#223)
Biggs [1 vote]: Wicket {#330}


Fluttershy[12 votes]: Klaus {#17}, Monica {#20}, Wedge {#63}, Rawne {#77}, Mkoll {#125}, Jin {#198}, Luke {#296}, Wicket {#329}, Tebow (#347), Jabba (#353), Roger, (#354), Gaunt (#355). Leia (#358)


Han (#339):Freelynch Fluttershy *this color*


Since zere are 33 players (and two puppets), votes to lynch is 16 (33-2 = 31 / 2 = 15.5). Puppet proof votes is 18.

Francine is at L-0 and we are Puppet proof.

Fluttershy is at L-4.

@Vader - It is too circumstantial. People were suspicious of Francine since Vault and on Day 4. Also Francine has claimed dreamer and Amnesiac. She said she claimed dreamer to avoid attention from the mafia, but if she is Amnesiac, why would she worry about Mafia attention?

@Leia - Probably shouldn't say who you are shooting in day chat. Spreekillers/interceptors and such. Probably would've been better to say it in your Editorial.

[Law]

If we have any protective roles please protect Monica. If Yoshimitsu disguised whichever mafia team he belonged to is sure to attack her. I almost wonder if there's a problem potentially with us not having any though.

[Luke]

Fixed.

Klaus Tally UPDATED

Gaunt [2 votes]: Brady {#10}, Tebow {#51}
Jabba [1 vote]: Brees {#62}
Wicket [1 vote]: Biggs {#70}
Francine [17 votes]: Brady {#105}, Rodgers {#106}, Gaunt {#134}, Law {#136}, Mkoll {#156}, Jabba {#158}, Roger {#182}, Boba {#212}, Monica {#220}, Klaus {#232}, Manning {#236}, Biggs {#309}, Romo {#310}, Wedge {#311}, Jin {#331}, Han (#338 ), Luke (#343), Leia (#358 )
Tarkin [3 votes]: Leia {#207}, Paul {#262}, Rawne (#223)
Biggs [1 vote]: Wicket {#330}


Fluttershy[12 votes]: Klaus {#17}, Monica {#20}, Wedge {#63}, Rawne {#77}, Mkoll {#125}, Jin {#198}, Luke {#296}, Wicket {#329}, Tebow (#347), Jabba (#353), Roger, (#354), Gaunt (#355). Leia (#358 )


Han (#339):Freelynch Fluttershy *this color*


Since zere are 33 players (and two puppets), votes to lynch is 16 (33-2 = 31 / 2 = 15.5). Puppet proof votes is 18.

Francine is at L-0 and we are Puppet proof.

Fluttershy is at L-3.

[Brees]

-unvote Jabba

[Law]

This is exactly what makes me suspicious of the train on Francine. Nobody even mentioned this possibility until AFTER Francine was hammered. I was going to keep my trap shut and see if anyone tries to defend her with this reasoning, but nope. The fact that Leia tried so hard to push the lynch in the other direction, but half the people didn't even bother with it and just voted Francine makes me doubt which way she'll flip.

I had also given some thought to the possibility of her being framed, but I doubt that she was simply due to the fact that there were quite a few people better suited to a framing. Francine had been mentioned as being scummy, but she was a focal point of the conversation yesterday.

[Law]

Francine had been mentioned as being scummy, but she was never a focal point of the conversation yesterday.

Typo fixed.

[Paul]

-vote Fluttershy

Leia, sometimes lurking is a valid strategy depending on what town role you have.

Vader, I did not attempt to coax a claim out of you. I was merely wondering if you were trying to be subtle in role-claiming Vigilante because if you were you might as well have come out and said it so we could just lynch Roger. Also, I have to balk at your whole, "I thought about the possibility of Francine being framed, but I was waiting to see if anyone else noticed it. Now that she was just hammered, I'll bring this possibility up now so that I won't look scummy, but everyone else will."

If Francine flips mafia/evil neutral, heal Rodgers. If not, heal Monica.

[Manning]

ok i'm back

why did that guy say earlier that amnesiac role remember was revealed to all when its not?

It is, actually. Go read the role cards.

[Paul]

It is, actually. Go read the role cards.

No, it's not. What is revealed is the fact that the Amnesiac took a role. We are not told what role they took. Check the FAQ/Role card.

[Manning]

No, it's not. What is revealed is the fact that the Amnesiac took a role. We are not told what role they took. Check the FAQ/Role card.

Hmm. Must have misread then. I'll copy it over just to confirm.

You are an... Amnesiac!

Abilities: At night you may 'remember' a role in the Graveyard. You will inherit the victory conditions and abilities of that role.

Pertinent rulings: Amnesiac can remember ANY role. If remembering a Cult Leader, the Amnesiac will not inherit the old Cultists but will create a new Cult (same restrictions apply, old Cultists can be converted). It is announced publicly when an Amnesiac remembers a role (but the role itself is not announced).

---

Your objective is to survive the game, unless you have remembered a role, in which case victory conditions are inherited.

[Manning]

Hmm. Must have misread then. I'll copy it over just to confirm.

You are an... Amnesiac!

Abilities: At night you may 'remember' a role in the Graveyard. You will inherit the victory conditions and abilities of that role.

Pertinent rulings: Amnesiac can remember ANY role. If remembering a Cult Leader, the Amnesiac will not inherit the old Cultists but will create a new Cult (same restrictions apply, old Cultists can be converted). It is announced publicly when an Amnesiac remembers a role (but the role itself is not announced).

---

Your objective is to survive the game, unless you have remembered a role, in which case victory conditions are inherited.

Hope this clears things up. This is public access information.

[Law]

Hope this clears things up. This is public access information.

*facepalm*

[Luke]

Manning and Brees. Why arent you voting to free lynch Fluttershy? We are L-2 with Pauls vote.

Also manning you just confirmed what Paul said. *but the role itself is not announced*

[Leia]

@Leia - Probably shouldn't say who you are shooting in day chat. Spreekillers/interceptors and such. Probably would've been better to say it in your Editorial.

Leia understands WIFOM. Do you?

[Brees]

Still reading all of the discussion will come up with an answer when done reading.

[Brees]

In reply to luke.

[Leia]

I'm interviewing Monica, too, in case of potential interceptors lol. I think the interceptor would kill first visitor (me) leaving doc unharmed. Not 100% sure on this.

[Leia]

Jk it appears it's random. Anyway I'm visiting Monica as a preventative measure against interceptors.

[Manning]

Manning and Brees. Why arent you voting to free lynch Fluttershy? We are L-2 with Pauls vote.

Also manning you just confirmed what Paul said. *but the role itself is not announced*

I figure give the guy a chance. There's gotta be a reason he couldn't respond. In fact, I was just without power for several hours.

[Manning]

Windstorm knocked most of my plants off of my front porch, and I've been cleaning up the mess.

[Manning]

If fluttershy comes up for free-vote again, I'll vote him/her off.

[Luke]

I'm interviewing Monica, too, in case of potential interceptors lol. I think the interceptor would kill first visitor (me) leaving doc unharmed. Not 100% sure on this.
It says it's random. If multiple people visit one randomly dies and the other gets the interceptors identity.

Also Journalist visits before the Interceptor so you wouldn't be attacked.

[Law]

Just a heads up, it probably isn't the best idea for a lot of people to visit Monica, seeing as there very well could be a spree killer in this setup.

[Rawne]

Journalist goes before Spree Killer and Interceptor, so I assume Leia would be safe, but nobody else would be.

[Wicket]

You forgot my vote on Tarkin a while back, though it doesn't matter now, apparently.

Well now that Francine is hammered, we might as well discuss what happens next. Should Francine turn up as benign neutral/town, someone shoot Rodgers, as the only possible type of sheriff he can be right now is sane assuming all of his results are correct.

As far as other suspicious people go, Nina and Tarkin still have yet to respond to accusations against them. They are good suspects to check. As are all the lurkers who show up and just vote, or post nothing substantial.

Wicket, do you think there is a devourer in your vault? If so, who do you think it is? Biggs, as indicated by your vote against him?

I don't know if there is a devourer or not Rawne and Biggs hits me more as a scum player. It seems like he contributed almost 0 in our Vault. He took a turn at the surface though. Stating that he wanted to pick a scum mentor doesn't make him much trustable. He looks like the kind of expendable role though. Citizen, Disguiser, puppet. Wifomer comes to my mind.

Well the day is almost over. It's a shame the free lynch doesn't get through and once again trolls and hardcore lurkers get away with it. :sad:

I seriously hope that Francine popps scum. He didn't hit me as that scummy though. If he really is amnesiac you should feel ashamed. Our numbers are really dwindeling and we can be thankful for every neutral who joins us. One really bad night and we have already lost the majority to lynch somebody. :S

[Monica]

Just a heads up, it probably isn't the best idea for a lot of people to visit Monica, seeing as there very well could be a spree killer in this setup.
That would suck honestly. Lol

[Law]

Well the day is almost over. It's a shame the free lynch doesn't get through and once again trolls and hardcore lurkers get away with it. :sad:

This FM should be renamed "CIRCLE JERK MAFIA EDITION! NOW WITH 66% MORE TROLLING!" In all seriousness though I will be voting Fluttershy before the day ends if she does not post her night results.

I almost wonder if there's a problem with people like Brady who constantly troll.

[Monica]

I believe we are 1/2 votes away from free lynching flutter, If your not going to vote. Then explain why

[Tebow]

Where the ffffffff is Tebow.

You called?

[Vader]

I want Romo and everyone else who refuses to contribute substance up for free lynch tomorrow. It's honestly not enough to just radio interview them because there is no incentive to NOT lurk if you can just radio interview and be saved. This game only works if a majority of people are present and not lurking, at least for town. Fluttershy if you are town shame on you.

Exactly what I was thinking.


@Vader - It is too circumstantial. People were suspicious of Francine since Vault and on Day 4. Also Francine has claimed dreamer and Amnesiac. She said she claimed dreamer to avoid attention from the mafia, but if she is Amnesiac, why would she worry about Mafia attention?

Now, I'm completely spitting this out without looking at any role cards. But Amnesiac loses automatically if s/he loses before taking on a role, right? I don't know. Maybe it's just me. I thought Francine was definitely one of the more likely players to get framed, but oh well.


Leia, sometimes lurking is a valid strategy depending on what town role you have.

Vader, I did not attempt to coax a claim out of you. I was merely wondering if you were trying to be subtle in role-claiming Vigilante because if you were you might as well have come out and said it so we could just lynch Roger. Also, I have to balk at your whole, "I thought about the possibility of Francine being framed, but I was waiting to see if anyone else noticed it. Now that she was just hammered, I'll bring this possibility up now so that I won't look scummy, but everyone else will."

Paul, with that reasoning, then Mafia would just attack all the semi-contributing people who are not on their team, because they must be important PRs. Though, looking at our PRs who have claimed so far and their posts... They wouldn't be wrong.

When it comes to one of those superpower town roles, the worst they can do is hint at their role. Mafia has plenty of people working together. One of them is bound to have caught it, and thus kill that PR. No, I have not claimed anything, nor even hinted at my role at all this game.

You are exactly correct. That is exactly what I'm saying. If she were scum, you'd think her fellow scummates would leap at a chance to side with town Leia in lynching someone else. But most of those who voted for Francine ignored her completely and voted for Francine as if that were the only thing that has been talked about. Whether they want to preserve their more important Mafia PRs for the night, or whether Francine is not on their team at all, I'd be willing to bet quite a few scum are voters who said nothing except, "Sheriff says she's suspicious. Let's vote her."

-vote Fluttershy

[Tebow]

Whether they want to preserve their more important Mafia PRs for the night, or whether Francine is not on their team at all, I'd be willing to bet quite a few scum are voters who said nothing except, "Sheriff says she's suspicious. Let's vote her."

IMO scum is more likely to give reasons with their votes because they feel like they have to justify themselves to town to stay safe - mafia need to look less scummy than town in day chat because they can be caught as scum with night actions, whereas town can be (at least somewhat) confirmed to be telling the truth and don't have to worry about how scummy they appear in chat.

[Tebow]

You called?

-Unvote Gaunt

-Vote Tarkin

[Luke]

Boba
Tarkin
Ross
Francine
Vick
Brady
Rodgers
Brees - Reading thread
Manning - Won't vote because also a lurker.
Romo
Law - Reason giving, not voted yet.
Nina
Han - Fix your color please.

We are at L-1. L3 to be safe from puppets. If Fluttershy flips scums I will keep in mind those who did not vote.

@Manning
Take a look at Vault 9. Do you really think there would be TWO sheriffs in a 7 person vault?
Fluttershy - Sheriff (Claimed)
Han
Heihachi - Citizen (DEAD)
Lando - Sheriff (DEAD)
Roger
Romo
Vader

[Rawne]

-Unvote Gaunt

-Vote Tarkin

Why? It's pointless to do so now since Francine has already been hammered. Are you just blindly following Leia at this point?

[Rawne]

I shudder to think at how many people will be eligible for a free lynch tomorrow. Pulled from the topic on Radio Free Interview and Free Lynch:


If a player is radio interviewed two nights in a row then they may be eligible for a free lynch even if the answer the questions.

[Luke]

I shudder to think at how many people will be eligible for a free lynch tomorrow. Pulled from the topic on Radio Free Interview and Free Lynch:

The only person that actually never posted today (so far, we still have an hour and a half) is Beru. There are a LOT of people with 1 or 2 posts though.

[Han]

It was answered on the first page. it counts as a MOD KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Or something like that.

mod keeeeeeeeeeel

[Han]

pretty sure luna doesn't mind I used the wrong shade of pink for my vote...

[Han]

could someone make a list of these supposed lurkers/trolls? because I dont see as many here as people suggest.

[Law]

I guess it is that time.

-Vote Fluttershy

[Monica]

Well, I see 10 people on and we got about 10 minutes, Any final words for the rest of today? I got some but ill say them in a bit

[Tebow]

Game aside, how could you lurk with an account named Fluttershy?
srs
I would understand lurking with some douchey football player account, but having fluttershy is the coolest account in the game.
So many missed RP opportunities

[Monica]

Anyways. Anyone want to do a small recap of today? From what i believe so far, Jabba is a confirmed student, Leia is confirmed journalist, Me being the dead body inspector and such. Then we got the Amnesiac's who should be remembering to be Yoda the hitman and giving one of the confirmed town a contract. And then we got our trolls/lurkers who must die.
I cover some of the basics?

[Vader]

could someone make a list of these supposed lurkers/trolls? because I dont see as many here as people suggest.

For one thing, you're on it.

At this point, I'm pretty much the sole representative of Vault 9 left who knows what's what, with the suspicion on Roger, and the rest of the Vault-ees contributing less than a favorable amount of information. I don't want to pull the protection roles away from Leia and Monica, but consider it food for thought if I am killed tonight.

There is still an unclaimed Wastelander in my Vault, whom I'm going to consider as an evil neutral. I also believe there is at least one Mafia member in my Vault.

[Forum Mafia GM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMYSWiPm7E0

As the Vault Dwellers stood over the bodies rotting in the courtyard, arguing, a terrifying explosive shockwave threw them all to the ground. Just outside the walls of the installation an Enclave vertibird had strayed to close to the base defences; an anti-aircraft battery had barked a reply, and the flying machine was torn to shreds. Flaming Enclave troopers, boiling in their own power armour, fell from the wreckage as it streaked towards the Brotherhood of Steel lines. Breaking off in a retreat, the Brotherhood troopers gave the NCR forces a quick respite.

One of the vertibird rotors snapped off and was flung into the compound. As the other survivors ducked for cover, Fluttershy stood there nonplussed as the metal fragment sliced through her body. Globules of brain matter spattered into the air as Fluttershy disappeared in a blood-red mist.

"Vault-Tec installation, Roxy, come in, this is Ranger Carlson of Outfit Alpha. Is everyone safe and secure?"

"Uh... not quite sir, we just lost another one."

"So I've just been told by one of my snipers, he says that everyone in the courtyard seems agitated."

"Roger that, Carlson, looks like they think they've identified another infiltrator."

"Understood, Carlson out."

---

The survivors were standing in a circle around Francine. Their bloodlust was up, but no one was willing to take the first step. Francine cackled, lifting her arms up to the heavens as if mocking God himself.

The bullet punched through her neck, severing her head from her body.

"Vault-Tec installation this is Boone from the NCR Sniper Battalion. We have a confirmed kill, over."

---

Fluttershy was a... Sheriff!
Francine was a... Corrupt Journalist!

Neither of them left a last will.

---

Graveyard (Surface):

Brostin (Sheriff): Committed suicide like a demented fool, by running naked into a turret. [Day 4]
Larkin (Arms Dealer): Exiled into the valley to be killed by the base defence systems. [Day 4]
Bragg (Ventriloquist): Killed by a Mysterious Stranger... [Night 4]
Lei (Puppet): Committed suicide. [Night 4]
Yoshimitsu (???): Went missing, mysteriously, leaving no trace of his role. [Night 4]
Lando (Sheriff): Killed and maimed by multiple sources. [Night 4]
Phoebe (Bodyguard): Gunned down in a duel. [Night 4]
Fluttershy (Sheriff): Vaporised by a vertibird rotor. [Day 5]
Francine (Corrupt Journalist): Shot by Boone, the NCR Marksman overlooking the courtyard. [Day 5]

[Forum Mafia GM]

Day 6 will begin at approximately this time:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=11.00pm+GMT+Sunday+8th+July