Day 4: Vault Dwellers

[Forum Mafia GM]

Well it sure is nice to see everyone again, though there's so many missing faces...

Well here's what you've been missing. A wild and violent wasteland.

I'm in a sticky situation here, gang. I'm the only one with access to the turret controls, but I'm reliant on your protection - if there's no one here to protect me from the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel then they'll get control of the installation for sure! I think they believe the installation has some valuable secrets or something, I don't care, I just want to stay alive so I can continue bringing you the best tunes and news in the wasteland.

Speaking of which, here's a song to welcome you back... to 'civilization'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCY09s-c41A

This is Galaxy Radio, and I'm Roxy. Have a good day.

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Welcome to the final stage of FMXIII - the surface! The NCR, Brotherhood of Steel and Enclave are all vying for control within the compound.

You may still see your vault chats, but you still don't have access to any vault chats other than the one you were in.

You may copy and paste your vault day chats, but there are certain restrictions. You may not use the 'Archive' function. You may not use direct quotes - manual quote formatting must be added if you want to use the quote feature.

I will not be giving out any information about the vaults, and I will not answer any questions which disclose private vault information.

This includes information about vault mechanics and the graveyard.

Simply put;

Anyone that died in a vault will NOT be entered into the main graveyard. Only their names will be shown - you will not discover their role, alignment, cause of death or time of death. Players that die on the surface will go into a normal graveyard.

I will NOT be posting any of the vault role lists. In a similar manner, the main roles list will not be altered at all during the game.

Players can share any information they want about these things - you will have to rely on other players for information about their vault, and decide whether you trust them or not.

(Players who died in the vault may be targeted by roles which can normally target dead people)

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Today will last 48 hours - from now on days and nights will last 48 hours.

Night 4 will begin at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=11.00pm+GMT+Monday+2nd+July

Standard rules apply on the surface. A lynch is decided by a majority vote (based on the number of eligible voters). You may make one lynch per day.

There were no Radio Interviews last night, because Radio Interviews for night 3 were not feasible. The Radio Interview system is back on now, Roxy suggests you make a minimum of 3-5 posts today just in case.

Good luck!

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Pre-Surface Graveyard (names ordered alphabetically):

Ackbar
Ben
Chandler
Chewbacca
Eddy
Greedo
Hayley
Heihachi
King
Owen
Rachel
Stan
Steve
Yoda

[Phoebe]

So.. How do we do this? We need one person from each vault to speak up. I believe there are no more than 6 vaults.

[Romo]

Heihachi died from our vault, and he was a citizen. Anyone else got info to share?

In other news... Yoda is dead. He must be force choked to death by Vader :p

[Jabba]

Dead from my vault:

Chandler - Citizen. Claimed Sheriff to take bullet.
Yoda - ???. Was janitored.

I have some interesting scum information for you guys regarding the user from our vault. We had a busy vault.

[Han]

anyone have any Idea how many players are left? 14 people dead by night 3 is bad by any standards.

[Mkoll]

INFORMATION FROM VAULT 103
Graveyard:

Chewbacca (Saboteur): Killed at night by strike force members. [Night 1]
Greedo (Citizen): Cut down in a frenzy by a traitorous strike force. [Night 2]
Stan (Fabricator): Lynched by insane vault members, driven crazy by the sounds... [Day 2]
King (Consort): Lynched by insane vault members[Day 3]
Remaining players –
Role List for Vault 103:

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (Stan – Fabricator)
Sheriff
Hidden NCR (Chewbacca – Saboteur)
Hidden NCR (Greedo – Citizen)
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (King – Consort)
​Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Keep in mind that the death description for Chewbacca’s killing is potentially (almost certainly) fabricated.
*Greedo was a citizen who made a crazy gambit and ended up being responsible for the lynching of Stan, the orange fabricator. RIP Greedo, we’ll not forget you.*

We’ve decided as a Vault that any claims which happened in the vault among players still alive will stay in the vault as a means for our own protection. It will be up to each individual player to reveal their claim/role.
We’ve also come up with a solution for the Lawyer – Last will check
Toward the end of each day the person making a last will check will slip a code into one of their messages – for instance, GFEDCBA
Then, when typing up their last will, the player will include a solution for the code – “The first 7 letters of the alphabet backwards!”
This may take quite a bit of work because to be totally safe it must be performed every day and a new code must be made every day, but it effectively renders a lawyer useless if you have good enough codes every day.
Also, bear in mind that if this is adopted by everyone during day chat, if you for whatever reason forget to put your code description in your last will we will all disregard all information contained in the last will and it will be YOUR OWN STUPID FAULT.
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Participants of Vault 103:

Chewbacca
Greedo
King
Larkin
Leia
Mkoll
Monica
Stan
Tebow

VAULT 103 FAQ –
1. Does the Ventriloquist end up in the same vault with his puppets? Or can his puppets end up in a different vault, essentially giving the ventriloquist eyes and ears in more than one vault?
His puppets may end up in a different vault.

2. Would the puppets then show up under random any or could they possibly show up as town?
They could never show up as NCR - they aren't NCR. They can show up as a Hidden role of their faction, or as a Hidden Any.

WE NEED ALL OF THIS INFORMATION FROM ALL VAULTS ASAP

[Mkoll]

Both mafia members lynched in our vault were orange mafia, btw.

[Jabba]

Welcome... to Vault 37.


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Role List for Vault 37:

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

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Participants of Vault 37:

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler - Citizen.
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda - DEAD. ???


Graveyard:

Chandler (Citizen): Murdered by traitorous Strike Force members in the vault. [Night 1]
Yoda (???): Went missing, he did. [Night 2]

[Yoshimitsu]

PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST, THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION

Hello everyone in the town. I am Yoshimitsu, and I was a member of Vault 5.

First and foremost I would like to ask at least one person to sum up what happened in their vaults, with at least two people confirming that what they have said is the truth.

I want:
A: The amount of people in your vault at the start and who they were and what the Role List for your vault was.
B: The amount of people that left your vault on Day 3, and who they were.
C: How lynching worked in your vault, who was lynched, and any information you received from the lynch (role, alignments, etc.)
D: If you can I would like a summation of what was said throughout the first three days of your chat without subjective bias if at all possible.
E: Any other rules that pertained to your vault

Next from each and everyone I want a list of people you suspected from your vault and why

First of all. In Vault 5, There were 8 people: Yoshimitsu(Myself), Law, Francine, Gaunt, Brady, Ackbar, Steve, and Hayley.

The Role list was:

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
Hidden Any - Citizen
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

The way our lynching system worked was we had the option of voting up two people for lynch, rather than two, and then the two would perform a Russian Roulette, and the winner would survive to see the next day.

This was how it was for Day 1 and 2's lynching at least.

On Day One we lynched Brady and Hayley (Brady was my own personal target). Brady won the Russian Roulette and survived, and Hayley died. Hayley was a Citizen.

On Day Two we lynched Steve and Francine (Francine was my own personal target). Francine won the Russian Roulette and survived, and Steve died. Steve was also a Citizen.

Day Three was a bit different.

Day Three was a Secret Ballot vote, and Three people would be lynched and be put up for Melon Roulette (If anyone remembers from the FM3 Graveyard). I was expecting Francine, Brady, and one other person to be voted off, but to my surprise, Francine was not lynched. Myself, Ackbar, and Brady were the three lynched.

Francine claimed Dreamer during Day Three chat, but I didn't believe her claim, as it is a very easy claim to fake.

During Melon Roulette, Ackbar claimed Detective to me, and I claimed something back, which I will not reveal.

The way Melon Roulette worked is the one with the most points and survived got a special ability (This was Brady), the one who survived but not with the most points just survived (Me), and the one who bit the poison melon died (That was Ackbar).

We did not receive his last will or role since we were escaping to the surface.


My views from my vault: Francine is most likely scum, and since she was not voted up, I suspect Law and Gaunt are also scum. Brady is probably a neutral or citizen what with the way he acted in Day Chat, meaning I think I'm the only town member to survive my vault.


Following this I will Do the Complete Document of Days 1-3 and the Melon Roulette Night chat.

[Yoshimitsu]

Vault 5 Information:


"The NCR, Enclave, and Brotherhood of Steel are currently en route to the Vault-Tec installation.

Vault 5 will open in three days, on the third night.

Vault 5 will consist of three day cycles with two night cycles. There will be no night-time kills - all weapons are secured via an automated control system, and sleeping quarters are securely locked.

During the first two days, instead of voting to lynch ONE player, you may instead vote for TWO players.

A gun with six chambers and one bullet will be provided, and the two players with the most votes will be forced to play a game of Russian Roulette. This game will take place at night. The participants will still have time to take a night action before the game (they are not role-blocked) but they will not be allowed to participate in any other night chats - they will have their own private night chat with each other.

On the third day, there will be a secret ballot vote. Each player will have two votes to cast, secretly, and these votes MUST be cast. At the end of the day three winners will be chosen, based on the three players who have the majority of votes (in the event of a tie, it will be randomized). On the third night these three players will be forced to play a game of Melon Roulette. The loser of Melon Roulette will be killed, whilst the winner will be able to select a one-use ability from a list. Note: Whoever dies in Melon Roulette will NOT appear in the surface graveyard - they died in the vault, and since no one is left in the vault their role won't be seen. They will be counted among the dead like the rest of the dead players.

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Role List for Vault 5:

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

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Participants of Vault 5:

Ackbar
Brady
Francine
Gaunt
Hayley
Law
Steve
Yoshimitsu"



*please note any colors, bolding, size, or other adjustments will not be present as I am making this post on Night 3, after already knowing Ackbar had died*
Day One:


"FM Game Master: Good morning, rise and shine vault-dwellers, wake up and greet the next day of the rest of your lives!


I have been contacted by our dear new friends at the NCR and they've been complaining that none of y'all have been responding to their hails. In fact, I aint heard a peep out of ya! You know that Intercommy-thing on the wall? Speak near that once in a while, folks!


Anyway, an NCR column is currently on its way.


This is Roxy with Galaxy Radio, making your spurs jingle, jangle jingle..."


"Francine: First wake up, first served!"


"Gaunt: So if you read the rules Queen Luna says day 1 isn't a troll day even though we have fuck all to go on. I think she is trying to influence how we play the game, bad hosting. To start the discussion what are everyone's thoughts about the vault system?"


"FM Game Master: To make things more simple:

When you cast your two votes, you have a Cyan vote and a Red vote.

All the votes go into the same tally so there is not a separate Cyan and Red lynch target, the two players with the most votes will be forced to play roulette.

This is simply to make it simpler when counting the votes, and to make things simpler for you guys when you want to change your votes."


"Brady: is this the cool kids lurker club"


"Brady: -Obnoxiously large picture edited out-

also
-vote Law"


"Brady: -vote Yoshimitsu"


"Law: I'm heading to a wedding so I won't be here for most of the day (just today, Sunday). While we may not have had the ability to use night actions last night this is not a worthless day. We can still question people and try to see if anyone knows something they shouldnt. Try to be a little productive at least please."


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Brady
also
-vote Law *end quote*

Please, inform me of your reasoning for that vote. I would love to hear it."


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Brady
-vote Yoshimitsu *end quote*

Wow. Have you ever played Mafia before? Are you trying to get yourself lynched?"


"Brady: i'm above the law nigga"


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Brady
i'm above the law nigga *end quote*

With reasoning like that how could we not have a productive day! Sigh. I was hoping the players in this game wouldn't be as stupid as the ones in FMXII."


"Brady: he thinks anything will be accomplished with like 2 people posting

ok"


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Brady
he thinks anything will be accomplished with like 2 people posting

ok *end quote*

I want to hear the reasoning behind your votes. Is there any even?"


"Brady: im mad"


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Brady
im mad *end quote*

So you are just going to troll. Awesome."


"Brady: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
So you are just going to troll. Awesome. *end quote*

lol

this is shitposting general until these asswrenches actually post something

slam dunke bang down town sh** da police cant get me $ money"


"Gaunt: yay we are stuck in the vault with a retard!"


"Brady: my votes are legit vote with me pls"


"Brady: actually

-vote Gaunt
-vote Brady

fight me"


"Hayley: -vote Brady

That vote'll remain until you're done being a fucktard."


"Hayley: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
So if you read the rules Queen Luna says day 1 isn't a troll day even though we have fuck all to go on. I think she is trying to influence how we play the game, bad hosting. To start the discussion what are everyone's thoughts about the vault system? *end quote*

Double post, but I missed this.

Seriously? You're going to bitch about it? I think it's really neat Luna had the gall to try a different system instead of doing the standard day system. We'll see if it pays now, won't we? I don't think Day 1 is a great benchmark as to how well this system will perform.

Besides, now we atleast have a good idea who is town inside of this vault, only one person is scum if I read the rules of the vault correctly. Just look for the scummiest person there is, like Bradley for example."


"Francine: You're all not very smart here, aren't you? It looks loke the I'm the only one who can manage things here. Before I start putting my votes out, I would like to ask you a question. Which one of you is an ordinary citizen? Answer truthfully.

Just look at this list here. There is at least one citizen here. Don't be afraid to step up. I'm sure there won't be more than one citizen claimers."


"Hayley: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
You're all not very smart here, aren't you? It looks loke the I'm the only one who can manage things here. Before I start putting my votes out, I would like to ask you a question. Which one of you is an ordinary citizen? Answer truthfully.

Just look at this list here. There is at least one citizen here. Don't be afraid to step up. I'm sure there won't be more than one citizen claimers. *end quote*

What's YOUR role?"


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Hayley
Seriously? You're going to bitch about it? I think it's really neat Luna had the gall to try a different system instead of doing the standard day system. We'll see if it pays now, won't we? I don't think Day 1 is a great benchmark as to how well this system will perform.

Besides, now we atleast have a good idea who is town inside of this vault, only one person is scum if I read the rules of the vault correctly. Just look for the scummiest person there is, like Bradley for example. *end quote*

I'm not bitching but it is generally hard to get things done without night actions with the sc2 forum mafia player base. Players in this community simply do not know how to function without some sort of night action claim but I would hope we can get past that.

It is worth noting that since votes are being cast we have to send two people to roulette instead of just one so we have to cast our votes more wisely. It isn't a majority system either so if a few abstain then the people who vote unfortunately get all the power.

You are completely forgetting the presence of the random any's. We have one confirmed scum, one confirmed neutral and three confirmed town in the vault. There might be as many as 5 non town roles in the vault.

for now I am going to -vote Brady until he takes the game seriously"


"Francine: We are NOT asking for other roles yet. We are asking for citizen role here. Who is citizen here? Reveal yourself, you will not lose anything if you do."


"Brady: wow ok
ok wow
ok
legit question
what could you possibly gain from some guy claiming citizen"


"Yoshimitsu: -vote Brady

A: Voting people with no reason
B: Voting me
C: Whining like a baby

Give a reason for your votes, and stop complaining that we have nothing to go on. Scumhunting is essential in these games, we can't always rely on power roles to give us our answers"


"Brady: implying i said anything about relying on power roles

nice voting with the hatewagon bUDDY

-vote Yoshimitsu

i still sacrifice myself to join the glorious roulette im a fuckin champ"


"Ackbar: -vote Brady
Even though I came 10 hours late I am seeing nothing being gained. Brady is just starting shit and we aren't accomplishing anything.
I will undo my vote if and only if he has a good reason for his actions. AKA not, " You mad, I am trying to find out ppls roles, and Just chaotic thinking." "


"Ackbar: Sorry for double post but I forgot to make my vote bold. -vote Brady"


"Hayley: -vote Brady

Forgot to bold."


"Yoshimitsu: -vote Brady

bold was not happening today it seems.

Okay, I guess I'll start us off since everyone is so hesitant.

Instead of relying on power roles, lets try and deduct something.

First question: Out of everyone in the vault, besides Brady, who would you feel comfortable voting and why?

This is just my opinion, but I would say Hayley. She is very confrontational, from what I've seen, and isn't afraid to bitch someone out. I think this is a might be a mafia ploy, pretending to be cit, pretending to be power role.

Anyone else?"


"Yoshimitsu *quote* Originally Posted by Brady
implying i said anything about relying on power roles

nice voting with the hatewagon bUDDY

-vote Yoshimitsu

i still sacrifice myself to join the glorious roulette im a fuckin champ *end quote*

My statement wasn't just directed at you, it was advice for everyone. Part 1 was the reason why I voted you"


"Ackbar: *quote* Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu
-vote Brady

bold was not happening today it seems.

Okay, I guess I'll start us off since everyone is so hesitant.

Instead of relying on power roles, lets try and deduct something.

First question: Out of everyone in the vault, besides Brady, who would you feel comfortable voting and why?

This is just my opinion, but I would say Hayley. She is very confrontational, from what I've seen, and isn't afraid to bitch someone out. I think this is a might be a mafia ploy, pretending to be cit, pretending to be power role.

Anyone else? *end quote*

I don't think that her actions and attitudes are a ploy, its just Hayleys personality."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu
First question: Out of everyone in the vault, besides Brady, who would you feel comfortable voting and why?

This is just my opinion, but I would say Hayley. She is very confrontational, from what I've seen, and isn't afraid to bitch someone out. I think this is a might be a mafia ploy, pretending to be cit, pretending to be power role.

Anyone else? *end quote*

I am a little bit suspcious of Hayley but not because she got mad when I made a joke about the no night actions but rather because she tried to distort the information.

*quote* Originally Posted by Hayley
Besides, now we atleast have a good idea who is town inside of this vault, only one person is scum if I read the rules of the vault correctly. Just look for the scummiest person there is, like Bradley for example. *end quote*

She admits that she read the rules of the vault but tries to distort the game information. Like I said there are three random any roles which are a wildcard. While she could have just misread the rules making her stupid I am more inclined to give her credit and think she was trying to distort the rules for people who weren't paying as much attention to them. Simply saying "Just look for the scummiest person there is, like Bradley" is perfect way to survive yourself and get others lynched and kill the discussion that the town needs to scum hunt.

It is really suspicious to me to the point that I might be willing to vote Hayley later but right now it just doesn't feel like enough to go on. The problem is we have a lack of information which is why we should have more discussion."


"Hayley: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
I am a little bit suspcious of Hayley but not because she got mad when I made a joke about the no night actions but rather because she tried to distort the information. *end quote*

*quote* Originally Posted by Hayley

Seriously? You're going to bitch about it? I think it's really neat Luna had the gall to try a different system instead of doing the standard day system. We'll see if it pays now, won't we? I don't think Day 1 is a great benchmark as to how well this system will perform.

Besides, now we atleast have a good idea who is town inside of this vault, only one person is scum if I read the rules of the vault correctly. Just look for the scummiest person there is, like Bradley for example. *end quote*

*quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
So if you read the rules Queen Luna says day 1 isn't a troll day even though we have fuck all to go on. I think she is trying to influence how we play the game, bad hosting. To start the discussion what are everyone's thoughts about the vault system? *end quote*

Definitely sounds like I distorted information, twisted it, and misread your post as a joke. Definitely."


"Gaunt: Hayley that breeze you're feeling is my point going right over your head"


"Hayley: Yep"


"Ackbar: The real question is what was everyone doing last night?"


"Francine: The Vault may be small, but I'll keep the vote tally anyway:

Yoshimitsu (1): Brady
Brady (4): Hayley, Gaunt, Yoshimitsu, Ackbar

I think that Brady does not care about his life anymore, he just want to play Russian Roulette with Yoshimitsu. That being said, we cannot nominate just Brady here. Yoshimitsu, are you willing to duel against Brady? If not, then we will nominate in red votes someone else."


"Francine: Waiting for Steve to respond. If he will not appear, then he will be our first candidate for a "free" lynch."


"Gaunt: *quote*
Originally Posted by Francine
Waiting for Steve to respond. If he will not appear, then he will be our first candidate for a "free" lynch. *end quote*

If Steve doesn't talk I would rather pit him against Brady in the russian roulette so we can take out one of the non-contributors. Still plenty of time in the day though, there is the possibility he actually has a life."


"Francine: 15 hours isn't that much "plenty".

-vote Steve

Will unvote him soon in case if he makes decent appearance."


"Hayley: -vote Steve

Stupid pleb."


"Hayley: -vote Steve"


"Ackbar: Well I am finally awake at 7am EST, I will try to get on every 3 or so hours to keep updated seeing how I am on dial-up still. I will have some real internet by wednesday."


"Gaunt: Ok we now have less than 12 hours, -vote steve my vote stands until he posts something useful"


"Steve: Lol i'm the one citizen that's why i'm not active almost suicided night 0. Ima use my clue tonight I'll post it here. earwigs"


"Francine: Wow, looks like the one who I wanted to see finally showed up.

-unvote Steve

Steve, are you the only citizen here? Or there will be another citizen claim today?"


"Steve: Hopefully i'm the only cit I'd rather not get lynched before I get to use my clue lol. I have school for the next 5 hours so don't expect anything from me. Hopefully there aren't 2 cits... Sorry for not posting been too busy for all this roleplay reading. Haven't read any other posts ITT will read when I get home."


"Gaunt: Francine why are you so concerned with who claims citizen? Please reveal the logic behind this because right now it is just looking stupid and I don't see the point of the discussion.

I am reluctant to unvote Steve however, the nature of his post is "WAHH I'M A CITIZEN, I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A NIGHT ACTION." Right now the three people with votes are Steve, Yoshimitsu and Brady and at the moment I would rather have Steve and Brady in a roulette than Brady and Yoshimisu because Yoshimitsu actually contributes to the dialogue.

I see the upside to waiting to see what clue Steve gets and I am open to unvoting him in the future depending on how things go."


"Gaunt: Questions for Francine:

What is the logic behind you wanting to know who the citizen is?
What do you think of Hayley?

Also I look forward to hearing from the Law, epic avatar is epic!"


"Brady: i already asked that"


"Steve: Gaunt the only confirmed role is citizen, I would suggest unvoting as you look awful scummy atm. There isn't even a counter claim."


"Steve: -vote Gaunt I have lunch in 2 hours I'll check back then."


"Francine: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
Questions for Francine:

What is the logic behind you wanting to know who the citizen is?
What do you think of Hayley?

Also I look forward to hearing from the Law, epic avatar is epic! *end quote*

The logic is simple - to reduce the number of suspects. If another person will claim himself citizen, then people will probably vote that person together with Steve. At least knowing that Steve is "citizen" is better then knowing nothing.

As for Hayley, she implies that there is only one scum in town. Why she is saying that I don't know. She also missplelled Brady for "Bradley". Maybe there is another hidden scum role from "Hidden Any" lists? Could she be the one?

And there is also one neutral benigh role for sure. We don't know how that person will act, so keep in mind that there will be one benigh role among us - even after we leave the vault safely. Oh yeah, and it will be a shame if we allow Enclave member to leave this vault as well."


"Brady: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
The logic is simple - to reduce the number of suspects. If another person will claim himself citizen, then people will probably vote that person together with Steve. *end quote*

thx for telling "those people" that"


"Law: Brady sure is trying pretty hard to get lynched. I suspected him immediately of being a jester or ghost when he voted me and Yoshimitsu solely for the reason that we only had one post Day 0, and his continued unwillingness to defend himself only strengthens my opinion. It does however raise a question. IF he is a jester or ghost, do we want to deal with him now, or do we want to wait until Day 4 when we can take him out at night? The mechanics of this vault suck, because even if we manage to pinpoint one scum target, we only have a 50% chance of getting said target lynched. What I think we should do with him is that if we do not have a clear second lynch target we should have him play roulette against our primary target. If he loses (and if we are smart and only place a maximum of 4 votes on him) only one of us dies, which is essentially the same thing as if we placed someone who's alignment we were unsure of into the roulette game. The benefit is we get rid of a harmful aspect of the game before our vault opens. This is all only assuming that he is a jester or ghost, when there is the very real possibility he could be something even more harmful."


"Brady: nah man im town

dont overthink it"


"Gaunt: Steve I will unvote you if you contribute to the conversation more than coming back to me with "NO U". I will unvote you if you actually start contributing to the conversation. If I was scum I would instantly unvote you in order to keep up appearances but I don't really care about appearances as much and more about encouraging a dialogue and scum hunting. I haven't made up my mind on the issue and really do we have better targets right now?

Also the problem with automatically eliminating citizens as suspects is that mafia could easily claim citizen while the confirmed citizen remains silent. Also if there are two citizen claims and they are both citizens because of this one person will think they are suspicious. Steve is playing the angle of ragequitting citizen well which would be a good tatic for a scum to bypass suspicion. Nothing is confirmed yet.

I suspect you have other motives to your request for a citizen claim, I am not disagreeing with the idea rather I am just inquiring about it."


"Gaunt: Hello Law, since you were absent for most of the day I would like some insight from you into the day's events.

What do you think of Hayley?
What do you think of Me?"


"Francine: Ideally we need to pinpoint two scum targets - one mafia and one benigh neutral. I honestly think that Steve is a citizen, since he mentioned "clue". Wherether his future clues will be credible or not, we will see it only in the next day."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
Ideally we need to pinpoint two scum targets - one mafia and one benigh neutral. I honestly think that Steve is a citizen, since he mentioned "clue". Wherether his future clues will be credible or not, we will see it only in the next day. *end quote*

True, I am really curious about the Clue mechanic as well. If he isn't citizen it will be fun to see what he makes up.

-unvote steve
-vote Hayley

I would rather just vote Brady but this vaults mechanic's are messed up and in my mind Hayley is the scummiest out of anyone contributing."


"Steve: Lol at gaunt defending his choice to vote citizen. That is my contribution to the discussion nominating you for roulette gaunt. Not a NO U. You are on my scum list."


"Steve: If i'm not getting voted I don't really want to waste my clue lol. I will if you guys insist in it though...would rather use it later on "


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
Hello Law, since you were absent for most of the day I would like some insight from you into the day's events.

What do you think of Hayley?
What do you think of Me? *end quote*

I'm not suspicious of Hayley.

I am suspicious of you.


Now answer me a question please. Why do you want to vote Steve into the roulette when the only confirmed role in our entire vault is the role he just claimed?

I also completely understand why Francine wanted to find the citizen in our vault, and if she hadn't asked for the citizen to claim I would have. Not only does having the citizen claim early prevent scum from counter claiming, it also provides us with a player that we can put into the roulette if we have no clear second lynch target."


"Ackbar: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
I'm not suspicious of Hayley.
Brady sure is trying pretty hard to get lynched. I suspected him immediately of being a jester or ghost when he voted me and Yoshimitsu solely for the reason that we only had one post Day 0, and his continued unwillingness to defend himself only strengthens my opinion. It does however raise a question. IF he is a jester or ghost, do we want to deal with him now, or do we want to wait until Day 4 when we can take him out at night? The mechanics of this vault suck, because even if we manage to pinpoint one scum target, we only have a 50% chance of getting said target lynched. What I think we should do with him is that if we do not have a clear second lynch target we should have him play roulette against our primary target. If he loses (and if we are smart and only place a maximum of 4 votes on him) only one of us dies, which is essentially the same thing as if we placed someone who's alignment we were unsure of into the roulette game. The benefit is we get rid of a harmful aspect of the game before our vault opens. This is all only assuming that he is a jester or ghost, when there is the very real possibility he could be something even more harmful. *end quote*

Brady could easily be a ghost, and by getting lynched so early on, would allow him to use his abilities that much sooner in the game. Now the thing is out of the 3 random any what is the worst thing we could encounter?"


"Francine: The worst thing is that hidden any could be another Enclave member. It is definitely worse then having one Enclave member and one Brotherhood member in vault. But we don't need seach for "random" any right now, we need to seach for a hidden Enclave member. Right now my primary suspicions are on Hayley.

-vote Hayley"


"Steve: Ackbar vote gaunt with us for red.
It's not a trap bro.
I'm the only one that's claiming citizen which is nice.
I don't like being challenged for a role I actually am useless as it may be.
I suppose I'll use my clue tonight as we can't really get any sort of lead any other day.
Also I'm most likely going to be eliminated being the confirmed citizen.
I might not though it will be a tough decision.
Anyone have any suggestions?
It could be a completely useless piece of information or an incredibly useful one. "


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
I'm not suspicious of Hayley.

I am suspicious of you.


Now answer me a question please. Why do you want to vote Steve into the roulette when the only confirmed role in our entire vault is the role he just claimed?

I also completely understand why Francine wanted to find the citizen in our vault, and if she hadn't asked for the citizen to claim I would have. Not only does having the citizen claim early prevent scum from counter claiming, it also provides us with a player that we can put into the roulette if we have no clear second lynch target. *end quote*

You are suspicious of me and yet you just made the exact point I was going to make.

If Steve had said "Sorry I've been busy I'm a cit" then I would have unvoted him promptly. But he said he wasn't active because he is a citizen and he almost suicided night 0. We don't have a second lynch target as of yet so why not put someone in the roulette who would rather suicide than play as a citizen?

I decided to unvote him because his clue has the potential to give us information and because I am suspicious of Hayley for reasons I have said already."


"Steve: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
The worst thing is that hidden any could be another Enclave member. It is definitely worse then having one Enclave member and one Brotherhood member in vault. But we don't need seach for "random" any right now, we need to seach for a hidden Enclave member. Right now my primary suspicions are on Hayley.

-vote Hayley *end quote*

She didn't do anything, while Gaunt has managed to attract my suspicion.
Don't random vote. If it's not random would you mind telling us why you're suspicious of Hayley?"


"Steve: -vote Hayley
-vote Gaunt
I'll humor your suspicions guys."


"Steve: Because I haven't used my second vote ^
and Brady is a potential jester"


"Francine: Didn't I told you already? Gaunt asked me about my thoughs of Hayley, and I answered to him. Why you suspect him and not Hayley, anyway?"


"Francine: Nevermind, I just saw that you voted then both."


"Steve: Because he kept his vote on the only citizen to claim.
He could be neutral but I don't think he's NCR/town.
I guess I missed it but what did Hayley do?"


"Gaunt: cyan tally:
Brady (4): Hayley, Gaunt, Yoshimitsu, Ackbar
Hayley (1): steve

red tally:
yoshimitsu (1): Brady
steve (1): Hayley
gaunt (1): Steve
hayley (2): Gaunt, Francine"


"FM Game Master: All votes feed into an overall tally."


"Gaunt: I want to hear more from Yoshimitsu and Ackbar"


"Steve: *quote* Originally Posted by Steve
Because he kept his vote on the only citizen to claim.
He could be neutral but I don't think he's NCR/town.
I guess I missed it but what did Hayley do? *end quote*

this"


"Yoshimitsu: Ah yes, things happened the exact way I wanted them too. I purposely put up Hayley's name (and I question I was sure no one would answer (which I was also right about)) to try and weed out scum voters looking for a train to start. I didn't expect Steve to vote Hayley and that boggles me, because I really do think he is a citizen, for now.

But now, I'm setting my sights onto Gaunt and Francine, the two people who jumped on Hayley as soon as I mentioned her name.

If only one of them were scum, then I'd put my money of Francine for a variety of reasons.

1. She appears to be helpful to the town by posting tallies, and defending people who, I think, are obviously town.

2. She isn't actually helpful to anyone, she hasn't actually called anyone out, and she hasn't started her own line of suspicion yet.

3. She was searching for the citizen. While this seems to be pro-town due to her explanation, it is far from. If she find the citizen, then she knows who each and every non-citizen is.

4. Quick jump. She jumped on the Hayley train right after with no explanation whatsoever for her vote besides saying that her primary suspicions are on Hayley.

thus -vote Francine"


"Yoshimitsu: Now the reason I don't think Gaunt is scum is for one very simple reason. He started the train on Hayley, which is not a safe lynch whatsoever, unlike the Steve lynch that Francine started before he showed up. Even I would have joined that lynch since not contributing is even worse than be scum (hence why I keep my vote on Brady).

I don't think scum has the balls to start a risky lynch that could cause people to question their motives on Day 1."


"Gaunt: Nice gambit Yoshimitsu as Ackbar would say
*picture*

I thought something was fishy with your analysis of Hayley but I came to my own conclusions.

That being said Francine doesn't strike me as scum, though I agree she didn't properly explain why we should get a citizen claim. I think she is just holding back in a similar way to how you were holding back."


"FM Game Master: Well folks looks like y'all had a blast today with your fun 'n games! Roxy is here to wish you a good night with a very special tune that's close to my heart.

First though, I see on my security feed that you crazy fellers are starting another game of Russian Roulette! Is that Hayley and Brady? I guess it is, good luck guys!"

[Yoshimitsu]

Day Two:



"FM Game Master: Good morning folks, some sad news. Galaxy Radio has just learned that Hayley was discovered dead this morning. She shot herself last night. I just can't understand you folks sometimes.

Her role was... Citizen!

She did not leave a last will.


---

Graveyard:

Hayley (Citizen): Shot herself during a game of Russian Roulette [Night 1]"


"Yoshimitsu: I see Brady had received a second chance, he better start helping or I'm willing to vote him up again without a hint of remorse"


"Brady: ok i iwll voote

-vote Francine
-vote STEVE STEVE STEVE

Explone.................................URself ??????

hey faggots any faggot can claim cit

you could probably just bluff your ass out and say "LoL I Can USe Clue But I Will Not Use It Bcuz That Would Be Waste But I Am Defanately Cit Dam"

even if they're essentially meatshielding for roulette you're still placing your trust in these faggots

also Franny must die...............For promoting......................................... ..These Ideals.........................Of Cit claiming

da streets aint beig enough for these gunZ

btw i am roulette lord and i am guaranteed to win every match of roulette; have fun if you're pit against me becuase Your Gonna Enter A World Of Paint"


"Steve: Lol didn't use my clue but I'll play roulette, I didn't want to vote hayley in the first place. -vote Gaunt -vote Brady I'll use my clue tonight, I'm surprised nobody died besides the roulette player. Unless you want me to save it longer? Hopefully that was a hidden any and not an NCR."


"Brady: nigga there's no kills in vault

also it doens't say but ima geuss u can use clue during the day

yea son bust those clues out real good

$$$$$$$$$also dont forget to vote me, i will never lose a roulette, i am safest lynch, deal w/ it$$$$$$$$$$$$$"


"Ackbar: I am also positive Hayley didn't claim citizen so that she wasn't causing a counter claim. She could've easily been random any, but not NCR since they are a power role right?"


"Law: Well based on this information "The person who received the most votes will start with the gun and may type -pull # times (where # is a number between 1 and 6) in Cyan in one of his post in the night chat to pull the trigger against his own head x times." I think it is reasonable to assume that Brady is not the jester, seeing that if he had wanted to die he could have simply pulled the trigger six times. That then raises the question of what is he? I doubt he would be mafia seeing as it seemed he purposefully drew attention onto himself. I can only think of two explanations. He could be the ghost, and Haley may have informed him that she was a town, which in turn could have caused him to decide to try and win the roulette game seeing as defeating the town is quite difficult. He could also simply be dissatisfied with his role and wanted to end his game as soon as possible."


"Ackbar: I think you have to be lynched to become a ghost since your goal is to see your killers faction lose, aka suicide doesn't count?"


"Steve: I thought you could kill in the vault? O-o guess I'll save my clue for when we get out. NCR doesn't have to be power role.. Pressure Gaunt I want to hear a cool story."


"Francine: Sigh... There is no way I would believe Steve's words again.
"Pressure Gaunt I want to hear a cool story"... all those words make me think that Steve is really scum. And he escaped the roulette game by a hair's breath by claiming "don't shoot me ima citizen i have a clue". And where is his clue now?

-vote Steve

I would also like to hear Gaunt's point of view on this."


"Gaunt: I am going to write a long rant now, the short version is TOLD YOU SO! "


"Gaunt: apologies in advance for the sarcasm and anger in my rant, before I post I want to just

-vote Steve

my vote will stay on steve until he dies for reasons I will discuss in the rant. I haven't decided who my second vote will go onto."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
apologies in advance for the sarcasm and anger in my rant, before I post I want to just

-vote Steve

my vote will stay on steve until he dies for reasons I will discuss in the rant. I haven't decided who my second vote will go onto. *end quote*

whoops lol"

"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Steve
I thought you could kill in the vault? O-o guess I'll save my clue for when we get out. NCR doesn't have to be power role.. Pressure Gaunt I want to hear a cool story. *end quote*

Actually took the time to read day 2 while writing epic rant and I just found this so ironic I had to comment. I am happy to oblige you Steve ;)"


"Francine: I think that the second suspect is Brady, as he is still alive. Not going to vote him yet, though. I'll ask instead some qusetions to you:

What do you think of Brady?
Do you think that what I did at Day 1 was meaningless?

And a question to Brady:
Can you show your conversation with Hayley during Russian Roulette? Please answer to us."


"Gaunt: ***A giant post consisting of only quotes pointing out a bunch of stuff about Steve***"


"Yoshimitsu: -vote Steve

Why is the fuck did you NOT use your clue. It could have helped the town immensely with the scumhunting.

On another note Francine, if I told you I was an investigator, and investigated you last night. What would your initial reaction be?

Same goes to you Gaunt.

Just letting you know, if I was an investigator, I visited one of you to. You guys better tell the truth."


"Francine: Sorry, Yoshimitsu, but NCR does NOT have an investigator. Mafia DOES has Consigliere though. And because of that, my finger of suspicion is now on you. Why you mentioned investigator while there is NO town-aligned investigator?

-vote Yoshimitsu

By the way, if I was really investigated by NCR town role, I would be relieved. The problem is, there are not many reliable investigation roles in the town. Just what are you, Yoshimitsu?"


"Yoshimitsu: I was asking a question, not roleclaiming. Learn the difference."


"Francine: And I just answered it to you.

Was "investigator" a relative term of yours, perhaps? Does it mean investigative town power role in general?"


"Yoshimitsu: For me, Investigator includes all sheriff types, detective, and lookout"


"Francine: Well, I guess I was rash in my thinking. Sorry about that.

-unvote Yoshimitsu

I assume that you know something about me already, aren't you?"


"Gaunt: ***A giant post pertaining to said quotes in previous post, more about Steve***


"Gaunt: Part 3: Conclusions

-If Steve Flips Enclave Law might be Enclave buddying with him
-Steve is smarter than he seems
-It is unlikely but possible Steve is jester or ghost, he couldn’t have predicted Hayley dying from roulette and being citizen
-hopefully steve dies because that gives us the most information
-NOTHING IS CONFIRMED!
-I had a gut feeling that Steve's citizen claim was false but didn't really think it through, I is pro scumhunter"


"Francine: While most of us do agree that Steve is not citizen, we need to vote 2 people, not one. And both of those nominated should be non-NCR - one Enclave and one hidden neutral. I would say that Brady is still the second most suspicious person. On the other hand, there are other people that I know nothing about - Law, Ackbar. Yoshimitsu probably just tried some kind of gambit on me.

By the way, if Steve was Enclave and he had a teammate with him, would it be really Law? Or someone else"


"Gaunt: Day 2 thoughts so far (going to bed after this):
-Law points out something useful to know but what is his purpose for pointing it out? Could it be to provide doubt in rouletting a potential jester? WIFOM!

*quote* Originally Posted by Francine
What do you think of Brady?
Do you think that what I did at Day 1 was meaningless?*

Brady is stupid, not sure what role he is though but I believe it to be genuine stupidity and not wifom
Nope I think it was useful… see rant

*quote* Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu
-vote Steve

Why is the fuck did you NOT use your clue. It could have helped the town immensely with the scumhunting.

On another note Francine, if I told you I was an investigator, and investigated you last night. What would your initial reaction be?

Same goes to you Gaunt.

Just letting you know, if I was an investigator, I visited one of you to. You guys better tell the truth. *end quote*

STOP FALLING FOR THE CLUE MECHANIC WIFOM!
My initial reaction would be yeah so?
See there isn’t an investigator there is only a Sheriff so I’m just gonna assume you meant that, also the only confirmed NCR role is Sane Sheriff.
Sheriff Rolecard…

*quote* Abilities: At night you may check a single target. If your target is an NCR or Benign Neutral role they will come up as 'Not Suspicious'. Otherwise your target will come up as 'Suspicious'.

You do NOT know what kind of Sheriff you are, however.

A Sane Sheriff will behave as normal.
A Naive Sheriff will see everyone as 'Not Suspicious'.
A Paranoid Sheriff will see everyone as 'Suspicious'.
An Insane Sheriff will see 'Suspicious' people as 'Not Suspicious' and vice versa.
All Sheriffs are NCR-aligned. *end quote*

I’ve talked to Luna about the theories of MFM and FM balance and one of the key things she said was that in most FM’s scum is way too limited and that a big theme in this fm was that scum had more leway to fakeclaim and more leway for scumhunting.

If you were sheriff the point of investigating someone is to throw them in the roulette and see what kind of a sheriff you are. This makes it a good scum claim for someone to tunnel vision as and be all like "we should lynch them so I can find out what kind of cop I am."

If you are a detective or a lookout then whoop te doo, you confirmed your role… there aren’t any night kills so you can’t exactly catch either of us red handed. I’m not going to claim because you know I targeted someone or no one at all but thanks for sharing, want a cookie?"


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine

By the way, if Steve was Enclave and he had a teammate with him, would it be really Law? Or someone else? *end quote*

It is a huntch, but actually that leads me to ask you Francine. Hypothetically if Steve flips enclave and a random any is enclave who do you think it would be?"


"Francine: If Steve flips enclave, then his teammate would one of the people that did not vote him at Day 1 before Steve claimed himself "citizen". I tihnk it would be one of those people - Ackbar, Law, Yoshimitsu. I see no ties between Brady and Steve yet, but if Brady is scum, then he is probably not in same team as Steve."


"Francine: By the way Brady, you said that you can win Russian Roulette with anyone. Do you have to guts to play roulette with Steve? He in confirmed scum in our eyes. Can you win Roulette against him? Do you have confidence in yourself?"


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
If Steve flips enclave, then his teammate would one of the people that did not vote him at Day 1 before Steve claimed himself "citizen". I tihnk it would be one of those people - Ackbar, Law, Yoshimitsu. I see no ties between Brady and Steve yet, but if Brady is scum, then he is probably not in same team as Steve. *end quote*

Good point that narrows down the hypothetical suspects. Though I would count Ackbar out, he said he only had dial up that day and posted very little. I don't believe that is wifom since he said he would have good internet by wednesday.


"Gaunt: Questions for Francine:

1) assuming Steve is Enclave and a random any is an Enclave what evidence from the day chat would you say supports the fact that Yoshimitsu is Enclave? what evidence would you say opposes the fact that Yoshimitsu is Enclave?

2) assuming Steve is Enclave and a random any is an Enclave what evidence from the day chat would you say supports the fact that Law is Enclave? what evidence would you say opposes the fact that Law is Enclave?""


"Law: Steve had claimed citizen. Citizen was the only confirmed role in our vault. No one, including Hayley, counter claimed him. It is only logical to assume that he is telling the truth in that situation.

But now we see that Hayley was citizen. While it doesn't mean Steve is not a citizen, it does make his claim much more unlikely. Unfortunately there is not much we can do to prove whether or not he is telling the truth. I lean towards believing his claim because scum would have little to gain from claiming citizen the first day, while they would have a lot to lose."


"Law: Ackbar and Yoshimitsu, I would like to hear more from you.

1. What role and/or alignment do you believe Brady to be?
2. Do you still believe Steve's citizen claim? Why or why not?
3. Who are your top three scummiest players?"


"Francine: Law still "believes" that Steve is citizen, it's more like he want to divert our attention to someone else. I think that Law is either too naive, for not seeing Gaunt's thoughts, or is scum himself.

As for Yoshimitsu, there is no proof that he is tied with Steve (he voted against him), but his disposition towards me makes him suspicious to me regardless. But how else you would lynch scum when the chance is only 50/50?

I'm starting to lean against Law, I might vote him at any good moment."


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
Law still "believes" that Steve is citizen, it's more like he want to divert our attention to someone else. I think that Law is either too naive, for not seeing Gaunt's thoughts, or is scum himself.

As for Yoshimitsu, there is no proof that he is tied with Steve (he voted against him), but his disposition towards me makes him suspicious to me regardless. But how else you would lynch scum when the chance is only 50/50?

I'm starting to lean against Law, I might vote him at any good moment. *end quote*

Please explain to me why you think Steve is lying. I simply don't see the logic behind why he would lie about that.

I am not trying to divert attention to someone else. I simply don't think Steve nor Brady are good lynch targets. I have already stated I believe Steve to be a citizen and Brady to be a ghost, which means that neither are a good lynch target from my perspective. I asked Ackbar and Yoshimitsu those questions because they have hardly posted, and I cannot gauge those that I have no information on. They could very well be using the tunnel vision that is being focused onto Steve and Brady to slip under the radar.

We have 14 hours left in the day, I am simply trying to use all of them."


"Gaunt: Since law hasn't voted steve yet I have a question for law: How do you think other people will view you if you cave into my pressure and vote steve? How do you think people will view you if you stick to your guns?"


"Gaunt *quote* Originally Posted by Law
Please explain to me why you think Steve is lying. I simply don't see the logic behind why he would lie about that.

I am not trying to divert attention to someone else. I simply don't think Steve nor Brady are good lynch targets. I have already stated I believe Steve to be a citizen and Brady to be a ghost, which means that neither are a good lynch target from my perspective. I asked Ackbar and Yoshimitsu those questions because they have hardly posted, and I cannot gauge those that I have no information on. They could very well be using the tunnel vision that is being focused onto Steve and Brady to slip under the radar.

We have 14 hours left in the day, I am simply trying to use all of them. *end quote*

I spent roughly two hours on a rant explaining why steve is scum, why don't you just read that."


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
Since law hasn't voted steve yet I have a question for law: How do you think other people will view you if you cave into my pressure and vote steve? How do you think people will view you if you stick to your guns? *end quote*

I could care less about how anyone else views me, especially when those people could easily not be on my side. I do not believe Steve is scum, and I will not vote him simply because you are Francine are trying to get a train going on him. I will cast my votes on my own terms, and not on anyone else's.

Now that I have answered your question, I have questions for you and Francine:

1. What do you think Steve's alignment is?
2. Assuming the alignment you believe him to be is true, what do you think he was attempting to do by lying about being a citizen?"


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
I spent roughly two hours on a rant explaining why steve is scum, why don't you just read that. *quote*

That was for Francine. I would like for you to answer the two questions I just posted."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
That was for Francine. I would like for you to answer the two questions I just posted. *end quote*

I allready did in a rant that took me who hours to write"


"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
I allready did in a rant that took me who hours to write *end quote*

You never list a definite answer. You offer possibilities, but you never settle on an opinion. Please answer the two questions."


"Law: I'm off to bed. I would like all my questions to be answered by the time I get up."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
I could care less about how anyone else views me *end quote*

Humour me. Since you are being politically correct I will explain the situation you are in

1) If you cave to the pressure and vote steve you look like mafia because you are trying to keep appearances. Most mafia will sacrifice one of their teammates if they believe he is doomed to be lynched (in this case rouletted). But you also look like town because it is common sense.
2) If you stick to your guns people will question why you are going down with the ship so does that make you town or mafia? Wifom man wifom"


*Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
You never list a definite answer. You offer possibilities, but you never settle on an opinion. Please answer the two questions *end quote*

my opinion is that he is lying about being a citizen and scum, not sure if brotherhood or enclave though really hard to tell in this setup with the random any's. For all we know him and you could both be brotherhood taking up 2/3 spots.

If steve isn't scum his stupidity is enough to make him a roulette target. Honestly what has he contributed."


"Gaunt: *quoted his own post*

edited for grammar and such"


"Gaunt: Law I think you should lynch Steve even on the the off chance my instincts are wrong he flips citizen. Consider the following:

1) If Steve dies on the roulette it gives us the most information to make our decisions day 3 for the melon roulette, ARE YOU AFRAID OF INFORMATION? If he is a cit it completely clears you of any suspicion.

2) Steve has contributed jack shit to the dialogue and said "I almost suicided day 0." If that is true then BITCH GTFO VAULT 5 (in a bodybag not with the rest of us). I've expressed my loathing for that one post in the past

3) In sc2mafia the majority have come to the conclusion that the following statement is true: "A citizen's job is to take a bullet for the town" Would you rather risk some power role NCR dying or a possible jester (brady) causing massive amounts of damage than steve?

and most importantly

4) Your vote is a symbol, he is going to the roulette regardless

If you choose not to vote him feel free to refute my points at length"


"Francine: I think that we should vote people from different groups. Voting both Law and Stve would be harmful if Steve survives and Law dies after flipping town.

-vote Brady

If Steve dies, then we can follow the leads on Law depending on what was his role. Though of course I would rather see Steve die instead of random power role in the retarded russian Roulette.

Right now I'm waiting for Brady's defence. Also, Steve's votes weren't bolded, so I'm not sure if they are counted or not."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
I think that we should vote people from different groups. Voting both Law and Stve would be harmful if Steve survives and Law dies after flipping town.

-vote Brady

If Steve dies, then we can follow the leads on Law depending on what was his role. Though of course I would rather see Steve die instead of random power role in the retarded russian Roulette.

Right now I'm waiting for Brady's defence. Also, Steve's votes weren't bolded, so I'm not sure if they are counted or not. *end quote*

Who said anything about voting Law? I am just trying to deduce if my suspicions on Law are correct by interrogating him. I won't be casting my second vote until about an hour before the day ends because it requires a lot more thought than -vote steve."


"Steve: Law is just being logical, you guys are dumb as fuck. Why wouldn't I want to suicide, I've flipped cit 3 times in a row and town always lynches me. I'll try to win the roulette but clue is useless anyways if it is deduced from information already posted. I would rather wait until later to use it because there will have been more posts, and a higher possibility of scum fucking up a post or something. O-o that's pretty legit, let's give the citizens an ability but let's make it as useless as their role. Gaunt is really coming at me, there us no proof that I'm enclave and he's getting uber defensive.."


"Steve: If you want to vote me up vote Gaunt with me please. Nobody accused him of anything really, there's no reason to be defensive. Just making yourself look scummy."


"Gaunt: I hope for the Enclave's sake both of you aren't enclave because then I would almost feel bad for them... almost"


"Steve: If you vote me I insist that you vote Gaunt up as well.
If Law is voted up with me I'm going to use all 6 shots on myself.
He's the only one thinking logically."


"Steve: So don't worry about it Law I'll sacrifice myself if need be.
Not sure what role you are but we can discuss in roulette chat if you're voted up with me."


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Steve
If you vote me I insist that you vote Gaunt up as well.
If Law is voted up with me I'm going to use all 6 shots on myself.
He's the only one thinking logically. *end quote*

I call your bluff! -vote law"


"Gaunt: *quote Originally Posted by Gaunt
I call your bluff! -vote law *end quote*

why do i keep fucking this up? lol"


"Steve: What bluff? Kill Gaunt after I suicide."


"Law: -vote Francine

My second vote will be cast after Yoshimitsu and Ackbar answer my questions, although I assume they are going to be interviewed tonight."


"Law: As for you Gaunt, I am going to ask you one more time, and I want a fucking answer.

If Steve were mafia, what do you think he expected to accomplish by claiming citizen?

I await your enlightening response."


"Yoshimitsu: Why me? I've spoken today, why would I be interviewed? Also, my next post will answer all the questions directed at me."


"Yoshimitsu: "1. What role and/or alignment do you believe Brady to be?"

I personally do not think Brady is a mafia member with the way he's been acting. He can only be a town member or a neutral. I personally think he either got, in his eyes, a very lame power role. Or is trying to get lynched as a type of neutral, but he started with the gun yesterday, so he can't be a Jester/Ghost.

2. Do you still believe Steve's citizen claim? Why or why not?

I only half believe Steve's cit claim. Yes, I think it makes more sense than most other people do, but he didn't use the clue, which would have helped him immensely with scumhunting, which, honestly, he's fucking shit at right now.

3. Who are your top three scummiest players?

1. Francine, I have a reason of my own for believing her scumminess, but by Day Chat alone, she has started all of the "safe" lynches and is trying to appear the most pro-town, while still finding any reason to vote any town member. That being said, she unvoted me rather quickly instead of interrogating me more, which worries me still, I would think a town member would be more skeptical than that.

2. Brady, I think he can only be a neutral with his actions so far.

3. You, Law, have been acting very peculiar and have been very, very frugal with your votes. In my past experiences, town members usually aren't the ones who are a bit nervous to vote someone off the island.

Honourable Mention: Steve, he helps the town even less than Brady does."


"Law: Thank you for answering.

I simply am waiting for more information before I cast my second vote. As for Day 1 I did not vote because Brady had already been at four votes (one more vote would have caused two people to suicide had he been jester) and Hayley was only one vote behind him (I wanted Brady to start with the gun for the precise reason that if he won we would know he wasn't jester)."


"Gaunt: I think Steve vs Law is the ideal roulette scenario and would encourage the vault to vote them into roulette. The scenario gives us the most information on who to roulette.

After my ideas Steve is hardcore buddying with Law which makes me think there my theory is a lot more accurate than it seemed. I really think Steve is a smart mafia wifoming a dumb citizen. It also supports my theory that steve and law are enclave/brotherhood on the same team. Honestly it was just a hunch but as my questions progressed their actions really supported it.

I really worry that steve might be the acctress given his bluff. That is the only trick I can see him having up his sleve, but that is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. That being said I know from personal experience that Luna believes the actress is an extremely powerful role and that her setups are never random (see mfm hosting guide). Still though probably nothing.

If Steve Flips Citizen:
Law is cleared from my suspicion. He could be scum but I will apologize and admit my suspicions were probably wrong.

If Steve Enclave/Brotherhood:
Law is very suspicious and should be melon rouletted. Not 100% scum because NOTHING IS CONFIRMED but still very suspicous

If Steve Flips Scum Neutral: Then Law is cleared but my thoughts on steve remain valid.

If Steve Flips Jester: We're fucked

All that being said I will tip my hat to steve if I see at the end of the game he is an actress.

If Law Dies: Supports my theroy that Steve is smart scum wifoming stupid citizen."


"Gaunt: I meant to say

The scenario gives us the most information on who to melon roulette day 3.

*that feeling when you make a thought out post and notice a typo right after... sigh*"


"Francine: Now Steve and Law are acting strange. Why Steve would want to take all 6 shots to himself if he was nominated together with Law? And why do you suspect Gaunt so badly? Gaunt is acting like pro-town, I can feel that.

I'm starting to agree with Gaunt, though. Putting Law and Steve together on roulette would be our best bet now.

-unvote Brady
-vote Law"


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
As for you Gaunt, I am going to ask you one more time, and I want a fucking answer.

If Steve were mafia, what do you think he expected to accomplish by claiming citizen?

I await your enlightening response. *end quote*

If Steve was mafia he would hope to accomplish clearing himself by being the first citizen claimer. The claim itself may have been a spontaneous gambit that backfired. He assessed the situation and saw an opportunity! If we go by Francine’s view of things

*quote* Originally Posted by Francine
The logic is simple - to reduce the number of suspects. If another person will claim himself citizen, then people will probably vote that person together with Steve. At least knowing that Steve is "citizen" is better than knowing nothing
*end quote*

That is the most basic wifom for the citizen claim. Steve was hoping that would benefit him but the roulette hit Hayley and it didn’t. Not saying it was the most thought out claim or the perfect theory because NOTHING IS CONFIRMED but I can see the logic behind a fake citizen claim as mafia."


"Gaunt: On to other matters Question and Answer time

Answers:
"1. What role and/or alignment do you believe Brady to be?"

I believe him to be a genuine troll and a bad forum mafia player. This does not speak to his role because the way he plays it is hard to gauge allignment. If he was jester/ghost He would have suicided the roulette. Second most comfortable roulette scenario.

3. To rephrase Who do you think is scum other than steve/law?

Brady and Ackbar because of how little they contribute.

According to my notes ackbar said day 1 that he doesn't have a good internet connection until wednesday (today) but he still contributed jack shit. I generally believe people when they say they have personal issues or a life or are busy because life comes before forum mafia kind of like bros before hoes. I think he would be a good free lynch if he doesn't contribute but I feel guilty about it.

Brady would be a good alternative roulette canidate though, contributes nothing and such... *picture*"


"Gaunt: Questions for anyone who feels like answering: What do you think of Ackbar and his shit internet claim?

If he gets interviewed and fails that then do you think a free lynch or melon roulette would be better for Ackbar?

Who do you think is the LEAST SCUMMY PLAYER?

I will answer these questions myself once enough other people do..."


"Yoshimitsu: I personally think a free lynch would be better

also

-vote Francine

All I see from Francine is buddying with Gaunt"


"Yoshimitsu: *quoting self*

fix'd"


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Yoshimitsu
I personally think a free lynch would be better

also

-vote Francine

All I see from Francine is buddying with Gaunt *end quote*

Ya I've noticed it too, it kind of makes me suspicious of her but I am very flattered with her buddying lol. It is like "yes someone agrees with me" so I'm bias :/"


"Francine: Only a few hours left, so I don't think someone answer you question, Gaunt.

I'm not afraid of playing roulette with Steve, but if I die, you will lose a valuable member of NCR. Make up with your mind quickly."


"Steve: -vote Francine
-vote Gaunt
If I'm with law I'm shooting myself."


"Steve: *quoted Gaunt's big post*

you spelled actress wrong.
why are you all chain voting with this idiot?"


"Law: *failed at quoting Gaunt* *quote* If Steve was mafia he would hope to accomplish clearing himself by being the first citizen claimer. The claim itself may have been a spontaneous gambit that backfired. He assessed the situation and saw an opportunity! If we go by Francine’s view of things *end quote*

So essentially what you are suggesting is that you think Steve believed he would clear himself by claiming citizen, despite knowing that he would be counter claimed at some point. You are also suggesting that he assumed after he was counter claimed he wouldn't be instantly lynched. Basically, you are suggesting that Steve is the worst player in FM history. Claiming citizen in a situation like this when you are mafia is an insanely idiotic thing, and I refuse to believe Steve is that stupid. You are so focused in on trying to get Steve lynched that you cannot even realize how improbable your ideas actually are."


"Francine: In case if you don't change your mind, wish me good luck. I'm gonna seriosly beat the crap out of Steve in that roulette game. Though I still don't understand why would he take all 6 bullets for Law. Does he knows something about Law that we don't?

Well, saoynara then."


"Law: -vote Brady

I do not believe Gaunt is scum, although his tunnel vision towards Steve is puzzling. In absence of a second lynch target I would like to see a roulette game of Brady vs Francine."


"Steve: -vote Brady
-vote Francine
I'd rather not kill someone in roulette, I would either suicide if they were a town PR like I believe Gaunt to be, thinking logically and what not, or 50/50."


"Law: Tally

Francine - (4) Brady, Law, Yoshimitsu, Steve
Steve - (4) Brady, Francine, Gaunt, Yoshimitsu,
Gaunt - (1) Steve
Brady - (1) Law
Law - (2) Gaunt, Francine"


"Law: *fixed tally*"


"Ackbar: I am really really sorry, still no internet today, on dial-up. Fairpoint is now saying midnight EST or tomorrow.
1. What role and/or alignment do you believe Brady to be?
Either a really cocky stupid citizen or neutral. "I am the roulette master can't kill me"
2. Do you still believe Steve's citizen claim? Why or why not?
I believe the possibility of their being more then one citizen role, but I do not understand WHY he would say he's using his clue then not use it once he's declared "safe."
Why hailey did not say that she was citizen too I do not know.
3. Who are your top three scummiest players?
Brady- Obvious acts
Steve- Lack of clue
Either Law OR Gaunt- Not for the fact that they seem scummy, but my instincts say one of them is on the opposite side of the other.

-vote Steve
-vote Brady

I am very very sorry that I haven't been active but this internet problem and promises of internet today is killing me."


"Ackbar: *quotes self*

Actually
-unvote Steve


He's a lot less scummy after reading through again.


"Steve: lol let's lynch steve he didn't use his useless clue"


"FM Game Master: This is the news brought to you by Rooxxxxyyyyyy, Galaxy Radio's finest and only voice!


Good night sweet things. Roxy is looking out for you, my slumbering children spread out across those vaults. May your dreams bring happiness, and we will soon be together again. One day remaining!


Hmm is that Steve and Francine I see heading off to that terrible room? Jeez, you guys are insatiable!"

[Mkoll]

Welcome... to Vault 37.


---

Role List for Vault 37:

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

---

Participants of Vault 37:

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler - Citizen.
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda - DEAD. ???


Graveyard:

Chandler (Citizen): Murdered by traitorous Strike Force members in the vault. [Night 1]
Yoda (???): Went missing, he did. [Night 2]
Based Yoda being cleaned, it's obvious there was more than 1 mafia in your vault.
Do you have any scumhunting info beyond this? Even personal opinion is useful if justified.

[Yoshimitsu]

Day Three:




"FM Game Master: Interesting news guys. Roxy has been in touch with the NCR - they're almost here! In fact they say that their main column will be here in a day. Seems like they've shown up in some force, what a way to be greeted as we all get reunited eh?

In honour of this news, here is a song for all those brave mighty men out there that have come to liberate us.


---

Sad news I'm afraid.

Last night I saw Steve shoot himself in the Russian Roulette game with Francine.

He was a... Citizen!

He left this in his last will:

Originally Posted by Steve
Fakin nigerz kil citzen gj
---

Graveyard:

Hayley (Citizen): Shot herself during a game of Russian Roulette. [Night 1]
Steve (Citizen): Tried to be manly, but ended up shooting himself in front of his lover. [Night 2]"


"Gaunt: Whoops... eh maybe I got a little carried away with the scum hunting, I think I'll be more pragmatic from now on. Luna and her random any settings. Turns out steve was just retarded. I guess nothing is really confirmed."


"Gaunt: Anywho today is secret ballot day so I have some questions about that for everyone to answer about Melon Roulette

1) What type of player do you think should be nominated to melon roulette? Should it be based on who is scummy or who is stupid or something else?
2) Do you want to be in melon roulette? (the winner gets a one use item and 2/3 people live) or would you rather play it safe and avoid the posibility of death?
3) Who do you think other people will vote into the melon roulette?"


"Ackbar: I have internet now, and on a side note, 2 anys left."


"Ackbar: 1) What type of player do you think should be nominated to melon roulette? Should it be based on who is scummy or who is stupid or something else? I think scummy should be nominated for melon roulette, I don't know the rules yet since I am still getting set up.
2) Do you want to be in melon roulette? (the winner gets a one use item and 2/3 people live) or would you rather play it safe and avoid the posibility of death?
I would prefer not to play in melon roulette.
3) Who do you think other people will vote into the melon roulette?
Gaunt, Law, Francine

Sorry for double post."


"Gaunt: Ackbar this is the information taken from the Vault information topics. Since you are too lazy to read the rules I'll just put it here for you.

Melon Roulette
Players: 3
Winner: Life & Secret one-use ability
Runner-up: Life
Loser: Death

3 players will be added to a night chat with the game, they may converse with each other as long as they are still alive (Winner and Runner-up may continue conversing until day). The FM Game Master will advise when the a player has died.

Here we have 12 melons, most are just your everyday regular melons, however in 4 of them there are dangerous drugs that cause various effects, and in one particular melon there is deadly poison.
We will random.org the numbers 1 to 12. The top 5 results will correspond to the possible drug effects.

Starting with the player with the most votes. Pick 1 or more melon numbers to eat by typing -eat #, #, etc (where # is the melon numbers), then I tell you what just happened to you. When you eat a melon, you put it aside, the melon remains intact but others cannot choose to eat from it unless the melons are reshuffled from fear. So if you eat from 3 melons then the other 2 players must eat a different melon from the ones you ate.

Possible drug effects:
1. Hunger - You must eat another melon.
2. Fear - See melons as vile demons, kicking them and reshuffling them into diffrent positions.
3. Rage - Force the player after you to eat 1 melon more than the amount you ate.
4. High - Allow the player after you to skip eating a melon.
5. Poison - Game Over and You die!


To determine the winner once a player has died:
Each Regular melon eaten is worth 1pt.
Each Drugged melon eaten is worth 2pts.
The player with the most points wins.
In event of a tie: Neither players will receive the one-use ability.

Due to the host dependency on informing you the drug effects, we ask that the other players not eat any melons until we tell them that its their turn.

If the game of Melon Roulette drags on, you will not join the rest of the players on the surface until the game is finished. The rest of the players in your vault will head up to the surface as normal."


"Gaunt: This is what we know about the setup:

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any - Steve (citizen, dead)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any"


"Gaunt: These are my guesses:

Hidden Enclave (Law)
Hidden Wastelander (Francine)
Hidden NCR (Yoshimitsu)
Hidden NCR (Akbar)
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any - Steve (citizen, dead)
Hidden Any (Gaunt)
Hidden Any (Brady)"


"Ackbar: *quotes Gaunt's post*

I feel like those are quite accurate judging by day 1 and day 2 events. Today is the big day though."


"Yoshimitsu: These are my guesses:

Hidden Enclave (Francine)
Hidden Wastelander (Brady)
Hidden NCR (Gaunt)
Hidden NCR (Akbar)
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any - Steve (citizen, dead)
Hidden Any (Yoshimitsu)
Hidden Any (Law)
I changed it to reveal my view on the situation"


"Yoshimitsu: I'd say voting Law, Francine, and Brady

or Francine, Brady and Ackbar would be the best solution judging by our suspicions"


"Yoshimitsu: -vote Francine

that's my first vote."


"Gaunt: *quotes above*

it is a secret ballot, you pm 3 names to the fm gamemaster and Queen Luna tells us who is in melon roulette at the end of the day. Am I the only one who reads around here?"


"FM Radio: Based on the number of night actions we received night 0 and number of questions that were explained in the vault info posts... I'd say, you would be correct."


"Gaunt: I thought it was three votes cause three people end up in melon roulette but decided to double check and it is two votes."


"Gaunt: These are my guesses:

Hidden Enclave (Francine)
Hidden Wastelander (Brady)
Hidden NCR (Yoshimitsu)
Hidden NCR (Akbar)
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any - Steve (citizen, dead)
Hidden Any (Gaunt)
Hidden Any (Law)
I am editing my guesses because I admit I was wrong day 2. I think yoshi and ackbar are definetly NCR power roles based on their playstyles even if I don't have much to go on with ackbar. I was convinced Law was Enclave but I was wrong about steve and he was right so I have to give him credit and knowing my suspicions are wrong. I will be voting Francine and Brady for the following reasons:

I will be voting (and encourage others to vote):

Francine - She buddied with me hardcore, I was flattered but looking back it seems scummy. She also as yoshi pointed out tries to look pro town but contributes little.
Brady - Contributes nothing and is a waste of Oxygen, also probably not town but definetly this...

I wouldn't mind seeing in the roulette:
Law - Because my suspicions were wrong and I don't know what he is I am curious to see even if that means dying. A sad truth in mafia is sometimes the best information you can get is through someone dying.

I don't want to see in the roulette:

Yoshimitu: I see him as NCR power, he is also intelligent and a threat to scum. He pulled a good gambit day 1 when we didn't have anything to go on.
Ackbar: Because of the internet situation he has posted too little for me to really tell but I think he is NCR based on what I have to go on.
Gaunt: I will not claim a role until the appropriate moment we are outside the vault but I can tell you I am NCR alligned. I was wrong about steve but mafia is a guessing game and I believe I can put the scum on edge and try to determine who is town and who isn't with wifom. Regardless of the results we can analyze the hindsight of what happened, see who voted who and such. I suspect the mafia will probably night kill me because of this when we get out in the open where night actions factor play in.

I want to see the outside of the vault and what it has to see alive because this is a great forum mafia game and Luna is an amazing host. Regardless of what happens it was fun and the point of forum mafia is to have fun.

Ackbar, Yoshi, and Law: I look forward to seeing more of you outside the vault and what tatics you will use
Francine: I suspect you are scum and I was blinded to it because of your hardcore buddying with me and not contributing. If you get out of the vault I will be keeping an eye on you.
Brady, Steve, Hayley: You are all a waste of oxygen, especially you mr "I almost emocided because I'm a cit.""


"Yoshimitsu: I figure might as well say votes out loud here, so that when we get the results back we can find out the possible liars"


"Yoshimitsu: and then report back to the entire town when we escape the vaults tomorrow"


"Francine: How else you would contribute in this kind of situation? Guess I should tell you what happened in Russian Roulette first.

I was shooting first, and the bullet was in number three. When Steve started his turn, he shot himself not once, but twice - and died in the game as result. Had he shot himself once, I would be dead afterwards. DEAD! So I had a change of heart and deciced to reveal my role first.

My true role is Dreamer. Almost as useless as citizen, at least inside the vault. Even outside my role won't be any of use, so if you want to pull me through Melon Roulette, go ahead.

I'm sure that Brady is a either Enclave or Wastelander, but right now I have no idea who is the other scum (was sure that it was Steve). I heard very little from Ackbar and I would like to hear more from him. I will vote Brady for sure, but regarding about my second vote I will have to think.

If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask."


"Gaunt: If you broke out of Vault 5 how would you plan to use your dream ability to help the NCR? I agree everyone vote brady, if he survives we can all reccomend we lynch him to the other vault dwellers."


"Francine: I'll use my dream ability as soon as we get out of vault. It will pick up random 7 names (among the players that are alive), that's why it is useless to spend it inside."


"Ackbar: *quotes above*

Question: Would you be willing to go into melon roulette in attempt to gain another ability?"


"Gaunt: Question: How do we know you aren't just going to pick seven random names out of your ass, or worse seven names you and the enclave want to see killed?

Sorry but Dreamer is like one of the easiest claims to make ever."


"Francine: You can't. It is only a matter of trust. If trust is that much difficult to gain, feel free to nominate me into Melon Roulette, but be sure that two scum roles are in it as well. I said everything I wanted to say."


"Francine: As for Ackbar's question, I guess melon roulette will be my only chance to make myself useful. Scum roles will probably just try to survive in that game. I'm not like that - i'll try to eat more melons than other participants in order to gain the hidden bonus."


"Gaunt: I've allready said my position but it helps that Francine wants to go into the roulette. To increase trust in you tomorrow if you are alive you should recant your melon roulette experience. Outside of the vault I am going to be paying more attention to my vault-mates than anyone else since I know you a lot better than the random strangers."


"Ackbar: *quotes above*

I expect there to be at least 34~ people left over if my assumption on 5 vaults -3 members by Day 4. (15 dead)
And with 2 citizens dead we are left with a possibility of 4 citizens left then a lot of unknown roles. (5 with bonus abilities.)"


"Yoshimitsu: *quotes above*

I'm pretty sure all the vaults work differently, considering GM specifically posted, "Vault 5 Information" instead of "Vault Information". Meaning that we have different info than any other vault. Who knows, some vaults may not have had to lynch, or other may have had to vote off two people, but had more people in the vault. Anything could have happened."


"Francine: That being said, my initial sense about Steve on Day 1 was right after all. If Hayley would'n died on first night, we would be able to trust him even now. While I already revealed my role, I know nothing about rest of you guys. Gaunt was the guy with most trust, but after Steve's death even I now have my doubts about him."


"Gaunt: I am eagerly awaiting the suprise "


"Francine: What surprise? You mean the winner's reward?"


"Gaunt: *quotes above*

No I mean what will happen overall. it is a giant mystery!"


"Francine: Well how's this for surprise?

Imagine that out of 6 of us only 2 people are Hidden NCR, while others are non-town scum. In such kind of situation who would be those 2 people?"


"Francine: And another thing - votes are anonymous. What will happen if you suddenly end up in the Melon Roulette, Gaunt?"


"Gaunt: *quotes above*

If I end up in the vault I will bitch about it because I don't want to die and then proceed to win and get my one use item"


"Gaunt: *quote* Originally Posted by Francine
Well how's this for surprise?

Imagine that out of 6 of us only 2 people are Hidden NCR, while others are non-town scum. In such kind of situation who would be those 2 people? *end quote*

I've already said my thoughts on that lol but I suppose it would be either Yoshi and me or Yoshi and Ackbar."


"Francine: Why you put yourself in "random any" instead of Hidden NCR then?"


"Gaunt: *quotes above*

To create suspense, Yoshimitsu did the same thing after all. Hidden NCR is power role I said I am NCR alligned not what role I am. For all you know I'm the third citizen in this vault going for the citizen incarnate award. I won't claim until the time is right"


"Brady: ur gonna lose

aginst me

rolete is in my veins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~roulette champion lord~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

vote brady"


"Brady: also i voted yoshi he sucks"


"Ackbar: *quotes above*

You make me qq"


"Law: Enjoy the melon roulette Francine. Hopefully you die this time. I don't believe your claim for a second by the way.

I cannot wait to get out of this vault. That had to be one of the stupidest bandwagon lynches I have ever seen. Did you people honestly expect him to flip scum? Seriously, now that the blood lust is out of your system please try thinking that situation through again. It made no fucking sense. Absolutely no fucking sense. Have no doubt about it, once we hit the surface I will be explaining to everyone exactly how stupid you all are/rant (for now).

I want Yoshimitsu, Brady, and Francine in the melon roulette. Francine for being stupid enough to blindly push for Steve's lynch, Yoshimitsu for being smart enough to form his own opinions yet still jumping on Steve's retarded ass lynch train, and Brady for being all around useless. I would have no problem seeing any of you three die."


"Yoshimitsu: *quotes above*

I explained my reasons for voting Steve. A citizen who isn't willing to help the town is just as useless as a mafia member is to the town"


"Law: *quotes above*

So you would rather lynch a player who is very probably a citizen than someone who is most certainly not town. I have changed my mind, I want to see Yoshimitsu die tonight.


"Francine: Too bad that I already voted. I almost forgot about Yoshimitsu and his "gambit". I think that he will leave Vault safely, unless at least threee of us voted him (which is unlikely)."


"Law: *quotes above*

I do not see anything that bars you from changing your votes...."


"Ackbar: This is going to be a Long day 4. Depending on how melon roulette goes."


"Yoshimitsu: *quote* Originally Posted by Law
So you would rather lynch a player who is very probably a citizen than someone who is most certainly not town. I have changed my mind, I want to see Yoshimitsu die tonight. *end quote*

I voted Francine, how is that not voting someone who most certainly is not town?"


"FM Game Master: It's tiimmmeeee!


Here at Galaxy Radio we've beenbrimming with excitement. Nine years ago I was bringing you news andmusic from Twisted Heart 102.6, and finally you listeners and I canmingle again.


I am now broadcasting to you from theVault-Tec installation control booth. Looking out of the window I cansee... Yes! The NCR trooper making the signal I was told to expect,we've been liberated!


I'll power down the Vault-Tec automateddefence system once they get closer ? those gun batteries willincinerate anyone coming up the valley if I don't.


So, vault-dwellers, are you ready tocome out and play?

---

Your melon roulette players have been chosen! Please do not send in any more votes. They will be informed soon.

Congratulations to those who have made it out of the vault alive!"

[Yoshimitsu]

Melon Roulette:




"FM Game Master: Welcome everyone... to Melon Roulette!

The participants are:

Yoshimitsu
Ackbar
Brady

---

Yoshimitsu has been randomly chosen as the first to eat a melon!

FM Radio has the results of the melons, so while I am asleep he will take charge.

Good luck!"


"Yoshimitsu: how the fuck....did francine not get voted in?"


"Yoshimitsu: So how do I play this?"


"Yoshimitsu: Is it like original Melon Roulette where you choose a number from 1 to 10 and one of them have a poison in it?"


"Yoshimitsu: Oh derp

Eat melon 3"


"FM Radio: *rules of Melon Roulette*"

"FM Radio: 2pts : Hunger! you must eat another melon.


Score:
Yoshimitsu - 2pts
Ackbar - 0
Brady - 0"


"Yoshimitsu: Le Melon 5"


"Ackbar: 1pt: It tastes good.

Ackbar, you are next.


Score:
Yoshimitsu - 3pts
Ackbar - 0
Brady - 0"


"Yoshimitsu: I like this game, gives me fond memories of FM5 and Zack "


"Yoshimitsu: I think Ackbar and Brady are gonna be a while "


"FM Radio: I actually tracked it back to the FM3 graveyard. And Yes, Zack was it's creator."


"Yoshimitsu: Oh yeah, maybe it was FM3, yeah, that's right. Cuz Zack died and then started it

Ah memories"


"Ackbar: -eat melon 6, 8"


"Ackbar: by the way I think Francine and gaunt are enclave.."


"Yoshmitsu: *quotes above*

if they both are, then even if there was an investigator, my gambit would have failed"


"Ackbar: Well if I die here, I am the Detective."


"Yoshimitsu: I am a [REDACTED]

I will keep myself hidden and give you a nudge during day chat if we both survive that [REDACTED]. As long as that's fine with Luna and Yayap of course"


"FM Radio: 6: FEAR for 2pts

Melons have been reshuffled.

8: tastes good for 1 point

Melons that can be eaten:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Score:
Yoshimitsu - 3pts
Ackbar - 3pts
Brady - 0

Brady is up next."


"FM Radio: There is a reason that there is a night chat here... it's so you can plan these types of things. Or else we could have made the game by PMs.

Depending what you mean by "nudge" will determine if it is allowed."


"Ackbar: I assume he either means a code word or catch-phrase? For example, "I would like to know what happened to (Name)""


"FM Radio: Assumptions get people modkilled! IT'S A TRAP!"


"Ackbar: Would Something along those lines really be a modkill?"


"Yoshimitsu: I'll say Hey Ackbar, What did you think of so and so [REDACTED]?


Or something of the sort

The Hey will be bolded"


"FM Radio: not at all.. but people assume something and don't clear it with us leading to modkills... you ASSUME that Yoshimitsu "nudge" means a code phrase. Yoshimitsu has not specified what "nudge" means yet.


edit: of course Yoshimitsu had to post right before me to ruin my trolling."


"Yoshimitsu: I Haven't?"


"Brady: -eat 12 11 10 9

bye"


"FM Game Master: *picture*"


"FM Radio: 12: tastes good for 1 pt
11: tastes good for 1 pt
10: tastes good for 1 pt
9: High! Allow the player after you to skip eating a melon. 2pts

fun fact: if the melons weren't reshuffled, you'd be dead.

Melons that can be eaten:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Score:
Yoshimitsu - 3pts
Ackbar - 3pts
Brady - 5pts

Yoshimitsu is up next and is allowed to skip his turn due to Brady being high."


"Yoshimitsu: -le skip"


"FM Radio: Melons that can be eaten:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

Score:
Yoshimitsu - 3pts
Ackbar - 3pts
Brady - 5pts

Ackbar is up next."


"Yoshimitsu: To the survivors! Please tell everything that happened in the vault including the lynch conditions (Russian Roulette/Melon Roulette) and how many people we had to lynch per day.

If I die, please say that I suspected Francine and Law."


"Ackbar: -eat 3, 5

goodbye cruel world"


"Yoshimitsu: YOU COPYCAT"


"Ackbar: I'm not a copy cat if I die. I suspect Francine, and Gaunt. Gaunt is trying to be way to moral."


"Yoshimitsu: Gaunt is also fishy in my eyes"


"Ackbar: Well we are the only 2 confirmed NCR's right?"


"Ackbar: Leaving 2 random any's, Brotherhood, and enclave."


"Yoshimitsu: Something is definitely *picture of fish* about Gaunt, alright"


"FM Radio: 3: tastes good for 1 pt

5: was a trap!


Score:
Yoshimitsu - 3pts
Ackbar - DEAD!
Brady - 5pts

Melon roulette has reached a conclusion. Ackbar has died. Brady has won the prize. (ask Luna about it... she didn't give me the prize list )

You may continue your discussion until day starts."


"FM Game Master: I clearly don't trust Yayap with such important details.

Brady, congratulations. You will be given a list of abilities which you can take a one-shot use of shortly (i.e. when I wake up)."


"Yoshimitsu: I was tempted to pick number 5 again too... thank you Brady.

Wanna role claim to me Brady?"


"Brady: im town"


"Brady: also

shit tier sc2 mafia player reporting in

i'll actually try to write something useful though

Francine:
has basically been saying weird ass shit like the cit claiming thing, i don't really see any purpose in that other than to have a roulette meatshield
also her posts have consisted of pointing out obvious facts and questioning other shit
also knowing who the cits are is probably just a step closer to knowing who the more important roles are fuckkckckckck

Gaunt:
has been playing the "town leader" guy i guess, but any nigga can do that in such an uncertain environment (3 random fucking anys) to avoid suspicion; he could be anything though
but i somehow suspect he's in cahoots with Francine Holy Fuck
the reason for that suspicion is the fact that you're in here instead of Francine, seriously wat
niggas be coordinating their votes on u
also it doesnt help that i also voted you HOHOHO

Law:
dunno he's neutral or something, playin "mr overanalytical with roles list where absolutely nothing is certain" leads me to believe that
COULD BE ANYTHING THOUGH

yoshi boy aka U:
dunno you could be anything
i don't feel like roleclaiming to you
maybe you're just claiming a "credible" role like vigi to get me to shit out mine
i'm a paranoid bitch though

Hidden Enclave = GAUNT AS FUCK
Hidden Wastelander = Law
Hidden NCR = Ackbar Probably
Hidden NCR = Hayley
Citizen = Steve
Hidden Any = Me
Hidden Any = U
Hidden Any = Francine Aka Red Mafia"


"Yoshimitsu: Hayley was Cit dude Switch me and her on that role guess"


"FM Game Master: This thread will be closed shortly.

Brady is being offered his prize now."

[Rawne]

Eddy (Enchantress) and Owen (Citizen) were killed during the nights in our vault (Vault 21). We did not lynch anyone. There was a bus driver in our vault as well. The remaining players in our vault:

Brees
Luke
Manning
Rawne
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Roles list for our vault:

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

[Yoshimitsu]

In Summation:

Ackbar thought that Gaunt and Francine were scum.

I personally think that Gaunt and Francine are scum as well, just on opposite teams. Law I think is scum, but is better at hiding it than Gaunt or Francine, and Brady is a neutral or a citizen.

[Phoebe]

omg keep that in spoilers... do we really have to post all day chats?

[Yoshimitsu]

I did because I had the time since Brady didn't talk to me at all

Also, I forgot the spoiler tags, it'd be nice if Luna or Yayap could do it for me. Thank you!

[Rawne]

Oh I forgot to mention; one reason everyone in our vault was wary of lynching someone was because their role would be cleaned upon lynch, and any night actions targeting dead players would not be able to find out the lynched person's role.

[Jabba]

There were 2 people interviewed in our chat.

Here are there interviews:

"Hello Brostin,

You've been approached for a Radio Interview. This is because of your non-existant contribution to day chat in your vault on Day 1.

You will need to answer each of these questions with adequately significant answers; they must be of a reasonable length and state your opinions, trollish answers will not be satisfactory. If these questions are not answered you will be eligible for a free lynch on Day 2.

Question 1:

Do you think the Technician position should be used for its protective abilities, or role-blocking abilities?

well I think protective is better considering how many killing roles there are... helps towns survivabilty, but of course it has its down falls if you're saving a scum member... but of the 2, I hate roleblocking damnit lol

Question 2:

Who do you consider to be the most reliable Town leader right now?

hmmm I think Yoda is very vocal... but that worries me... usually the most town people are the best scum roles... so I'd say for a leader him, but maybe not for the right reasons...

Question 3:

Do you think your vault favours scum roles or the NCR?

I think the vault definitely favours scum... because usually when all the good people in town die off you know who the mafia members are jus by the fact that they wouldnt have nothing but new people in them... but really I like the concept, because it gives the better players more of a survivability... if you dont mean the anon accounts and just the fact that all the threads go into one place... I think it really favours scum just because people have no idea where it is and cant discuss all their actions in full... give a better understanding of the day...

Question 4:

Are you in favour of a lynch on day 2?

yes very in favour... if we get a reliable lead, like someone attacked and at the same time someone being a lookout on them... there are many instances where a lynch on day 2 could come in very handy

Question 5:

Who do you consider to be the most suspicious player, and can you provide tangible examples of why you think this?

hmmm this is a toss up.... I think Yoda is being too townie, and trying to push the scum hunting a little far to get people to target other people like Jabba... but there are a couple of people that have been posting to get people lynch happy... I shall continue to investigate.



Ross:
1)
What are your thoughts on Brostin and his whole free-lynch situation?

Well he sounds like someone who doesn't like reading the rules unless he is forced to. Like someone I know. *cough* Anyways, despite the fact that Brahstin is rather derpy, I do believe that he is town. He rubs me off as a derpy townie. He could be a cit. Or he could be a town pr. Maybe he should try -praying?

2)

Who do you think the technician was on night 1, or will be on night 2?

I believe das technician on n1 was DJINN! I mean Jin! Boba was suggesting people to vote Jin for techgineer.I'm not sure about da rest of the people in the vault but I sure voted for him! The technician for night 2 is a really really awesome fellow. Aye, you've guessed it. In their tongue, ROSS! WIFOMBORN! FUSS ROAR DAS

3)

Do you think the technician should be used as a role block, or as a protective measure?

I am inclined to use it more as a role block than a protective measure. Since an organized election of a technician would show all the scumbags who the tech is. Then no one will attack him anyways! Then he can't catch no boolet! Using it as a roleblock would be a decent attempt to reduce the kpn. And if the town is smart, it can effectively be used as a scum hunting tool every day. Of course, using it as a role block also has its disadvantages. A scum could not attack that night to frame the technician last night. I wonder how many scums have thought of that already? Whatever. It's still more effective as a role blocking tool.

4)

Do you find anyone particularly suspicious, and do you have tangible evidence to support it?

I find Jin rather suspicious seeing as he was likely the technician on n1. AND HE DID NOT SAY HE WAS TECHNICIAN. THAT, MY FELLOW VAULT COMPANIONS, IS VEWY SUSPICIOUS! I'm also mindful of Yoooooooo-dah coz of his "big town guy" thing. Maybe he doing a cit gambit. Like chandler. Jabba just doesn't want to die. I dunno want to make'o dat yet. I believe we will get the most information if we know Jin's role. That calls for some French styled executions!

5)

The members of Vault 37 (including yourself) have not attempted to lynch anyone yet - do you think you can explain this unwillingness to lynch?



The main reason of our indecisiveness is because of our vault number. Aye, tis this accursed 37 that clouds our puny brains! Alas, if only we had 42... but nay... our fates are grim.
aight, on a serious note, I think it's because we don't have much of a lead. Well I would argue that we can poot(is) big strong rope around tiny Jin's neck, I'm not sure how many people in the vault would agree with me. And part of that was also because I was away for most of the day. By the time I got back, I had the luck to just see Loonah locking the thread. Maybe all the town needs someone to start a train on Jin and everyone will hop on it. Perhaps it is my destiny to do so...

[Mkoll]

omg keep that in spoilers... do we really have to post all day chats?
I don't think we need to post all day chats.
But if you're gonna do it, post it in spoilers tags because I don't have 20 hours to read everything.

[Phoebe]

Ok, I will try my best to post every information about my Vault. (And neat 8))

[Yoshimitsu]

I urge everyone to at least read the entirety of post one and post six of mine, as they are not day chats

[Mkoll]

Luna can you pls pls pls edit their posts and put spoilers tags around them?

[Jabba]

People I suspected: Brostin.

Brostin claimed Sheriff D2 and was not killed N2. Instead, Yoda was killed. It was confirmed that we did NOT have a doctor in our vault.

Brostin changed his story meany times and kept changing who he thought was scum.

He seemed jester-like, but too much like a jester. I believe that Brostin is part of the Enclave and we should lynch him.

[Mkoll]

I honestly don't think we'll get anywhere with "who we suspected."
At all.

Think about it - this is a VERY easy thing for scum to manipulate & what will it accomplish? MAYBE 1 lynch. & it might not even be on a scum.

I think we should keep our "who we suspected" to our damn selves. I know IDGAF about what you people thought about each other, I wanna make my own opinions.

[Mkoll]

BTW vault 103 had very basic mechanics - vote for one person per day and one person was lynched per day. All information was received.
Night actions were all normal save for everyone getting an extra feedback message every night.
There was 1 KPN in the vault & 2 orange mafia members, plus at least 1 neutral.
Standard stuff.

[Jabba]

some quotes from Brostin:

Day 1:



"Lmfao it took me like 20 years to figure out where the fawk the vault was lmao... so I guess we still dont get roles until n1 eh?"



"lmfao n/m just got message xD"

After these to messages, he goes into full lurk mode and is interviewed(page 1 for interview)

Day 2:

"I don't get it... if there are 9 people in each vault... then how are they split up... will they all be townies... this game is fucked... I was wondering why there wasnt alot of people posting... being ignorant to the rules isnt a reason to kick someone... but w/e I dont even care anymore... I'm sheriff... but my role is pretty much pointless... cause apparently there is:
A Sane Sheriff will behave as normal.
A Naive Sheriff will see everyone as 'Not Suspicious'.
A Paranoid Sheriff will see everyone as 'Suspicious'.
An Insane Sheriff will see 'Suspicious' people as 'Not Suspicious' and vice versa.

so unless I KNOW what sheriff I am... I'm just shooting fish in a barrel... kinda pointless... but lynch away townies"


"My thoughts on everyone:

Jin: he voted himself for technician, but once people started agreeing with this went silent... I'm guessing he was saying he wanted to be technician to act like he didnt have a night action... also explains why there was only one kill yesterday...

Yoda: acting too "Important" and one citizen is already down... he's either a citizen that is one of the hidden any's.. or hes WIFOM mafia, or neutral trying to stay alive

Jabba: seems too much like he just wants to survive... reaks of neutral to me... probably survivor or something to that nature

Beru: didnt really push taking the technician job but hinted towards it... my guess is town PR trying to stay alive but not lose his night action... or mafia trying to get a kill but seem in conspicuous

Ross: didn't post much, I don't know if lurking is good for scum considering there is only 1 confirmed scum in this vault, theyd probably want to be the most outspoken one, not to seem like scum... so hes a candidate for town PR or maybe neutral for me

Nina: also a non poster, seems legit town PR... or maybe neutral

Boba: was first to ask for the technician vote... so I'm going to guess he is not a killing role, but I'm not going to rule out scum, maybe neutral... from the way he talks though town PR is very possible

Brostin: He's very sexy, kinda quiet... claims sheriff but that's probably bullshit... obvious mafia/sexy"




"and really if I were on the free lynch train... you guys would be asking for my role anyways.... so I was being premptive cause I'm awesome like that ;)"

"@Jabba because I see most town friendly folk as scum... you didnt care either way, which leads me to believe you arent hiding anything... but I still have you as a candidate for neutral"





Day 3:


"fyi guys Yoda came up suspicious to me... I really wish I knew what role he was, then I could determine my sheriff role...

I'm guessing hes not mafia because he got cleaned... and if he was mafia getting taken out by jailor, could you please let me know...

so he's probably a neutral, not a killing one because only one kpn... so maybe benign, or an evil neutral non-killing... anyone wanna do the odds xD"


"lol Jabba geez you're derp... they didn't kill me because I said for Lookout or Doctor to be on me...

I cant tell whether you're dumb or scum... possibly neutral just looking for a mislynch"


"lmfao you are all going to feel like idiots... remember Jabba orchestrated it

if I were scum honeslty... I wouldn't have claimed... too risky...

But that's my information... n1 missed night action n2 Yoda was suspicious... I told you the mechanics of what was sent to me... pretty much how useless I am... I wish we knew what he was... is there any other roles that can clean role?

also after Jabba saying all this, sounds like hes known this for awhile... like he's been planning it... after you vote me today... make sure you lynch Jabba...

in all honesty I'm useless anyways... I still dont know which sheriff I am.. so it'll be well worth lynching me to find out that Jabba is mafia"


"you gusy are idiots..I never claimed lookout... I said for lookout to be on me.... god you guys are worse then pubs... or mafia is running town... heres an idea... why dont you vote me technician to see that their still is a kill... or is mafia trying to get rid of me fast, trying to push a mislynch....

I havent changed my story since day 1... and I dont intend too... lynch me if you like but you would be the most derp townies ever for doing so... and I'm 100% Jabba is mafia now looking for mislynch... is a disguiser possible?... maybe the mafioso got roleblocked so the disguiser made the kill to not make it look suspicious... or maybe the mafioso was jailed?

either way I dont give a shit vote me... I may be paranoid sheriff and useless anyways... as long as you PROMISE me to lynch Jabba after this... if you dont and believe his stupid lies then you are even more stupid then I inticipated

-Vote Brostin

god I come here to get away from derp townies... if Jabba IS town, by some miracle... he should delete is account and play SC2 more until he learns how to be a proper townie and go on leads... but he doesnt seem like an idiot, jus scum leading town down a wrong path... so PLEASE don't be more idiots then you are being now and lynch this retard after I'm dead"


"transferred to another vault... this one is filled with derptarded noobs.... I hope someone comes online with a shred of logic...

I have never changed my story... I've said everything thats happens to me.. your welcome to check me or lynch me idgaf... but Jabba needs to be lynched ASAP... he's so obvious scum it's ridiculous

-Unvote
-Vote Jabba"

[Rawne]

So here's a quick summary I just compiled from all of the posts that have been made so far:

Vault 103

Chewbacca
Greedo
King
Larkin
Leia
Mkoll
Monica
Stan
Tebow

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (Stan – Fabricator)
Sheriff
Hidden NCR (Chewbacca – Saboteur)
Hidden NCR (Greedo – Citizen)
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (King – Consort)
​Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Vault 37

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda

Hidden Enclave (Janitor?)
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Chandler)
Hidden Any (mafia)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

yoda dead, role unknown

Vault 5

Yoshimitsu
Law
Francine
Gaunt
Brady
Ackbar
Steve
Hayley

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Hayley)
Hidden Any (Steve - Citizen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

ackbar dead, role unknown

Vault 21

Brees
Eddy
Luke
Manning
Owen
Rawne
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR (Eddy - Enchantress)
Hidden NCR (bus driver)
Citizen (Owen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

9+9+8+9 = 35, which means we're lacking some information from (most likely) two vaults. Romo, more information from your vault, please.

[Brostin]

This is Day 2... Day 1 was pointless really... if someone else from my vault thinks its important then they can... this is the first half

Day 2: No rest for the wicked
Good morning everyone! Roxy here with Galaxy Radio.

We have some sad news. It appears that Chandler was murdered during the night; we saw signs of a scuffle on our video feeds but could not make out the killers, unfortunately.

His role was... Citizen!

He did not leave a last will.

This is troubling news.

On a lighter note, Brostin was approached for an interview last night but did not respond to our hails. He is eligible for a free lynch!



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[QUOTE=Brostin]well I think protective is better considering how many killing roles there are... helps towns survivabilty, but of course it has its down falls if you're saving a scum member... but of the 2, I hate roleblocking damnit lol

hmmm I think Yoda is very vocal... but that worries me... usually the most town people are the best scum roles... so I'd say for a leader him, but maybe not for the right reasons...

I think the vault definitely favours scum... because usually when all the good people in town die off you know who the mafia members are jus by the fact that they wouldnt have nothing but new people in them... but really I like the concept, because it gives the better players more of a survivability... if you dont mean the anon accounts and just the fact that all the threads go into one place... I think it really favours scum just because people have no idea where it is and cant discuss all their actions in full... give a better understanding of the day...

yes very in favour... if we get a reliable lead, like someone attacked and at the same time someone being a lookout on them... there are many instances where a lynch on day 2 could come in very handy

hmmm this is a toss up.... I think Yoda is being too townie, and trying to push the scum hunting a little far to get people to target other people like Jabba... but there are a couple of people that have been posting to get people lynch happy... I shall continue to investigate

Sorry I'm not being very active... I have been posting enough to stay active and reading the posts to sort through who I think as scummy.. I just dont want to come out as a huge scum hunter... because if I get taken out and I'm the BLANK, thats a huge blow to the town...

how often should I post to be deemed "active enough"?



this is kinda retarded... there are people that havent even posted... this is like a 40 person game... I posted enough to stay incognito, but at the same time be active... I even entered a contest day 0... I'm not gonna say I'm the most active person here... but I'm pretty sure that considering day 1 there are like 6 pages and 40 people playing this game... I wasnt the least active...

anyways... lynch me if you want... but I can guarentee those who want to, are probably mafia Reply With Quote .
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here were the questions asked

Hello Brostin,

You've been approached for a Radio Interview. This is because of your non-existant contribution to day chat in your vault on Day 1.

You will need to answer each of these questions with adequately significant answers; they must be of a reasonable length and state your opinions, trollish answers will not be satisfactory. If these questions are not answered you will be eligible for a free lynch on Day 2.

Question 1:

Do you think the Technician position should be used for its protective abilities, or role-blocking abilities?

Question 2:

Who do you consider to be the most reliable Town leader right now?

Question 3:

Do you think your vault favours scum roles or the NCR?

Question 4:

Are you in favour of a lynch on day 2?

Question 5:

Who do you consider to be the most suspicious player, and can you provide tangible examples of why you think this?

[QUOTE=Brostin;146142]
Originally Posted by Brostin
well I think protective is better considering how many killing roles there are... helps towns survivabilty, but of course it has its down falls if you're saving a scum member... but of the 2, I hate roleblocking damnit lol

hmmm I think Yoda is very vocal... but that worries me... usually the most town people are the best scum roles... so I'd say for a leader him, but maybe not for the right reasons...

I think the vault definitely favours scum... because usually when all the good people in town die off you know who the mafia members are jus by the fact that they wouldnt have nothing but new people in them... but really I like the concept, because it gives the better players more of a survivability... if you dont mean the anon accounts and just the fact that all the threads go into one place... I think it really favours scum just because people have no idea where it is and cant discuss all their actions in full... give a better understanding of the day...

yes very in favour... if we get a reliable lead, like someone attacked and at the same time someone being a lookout on them... there are many instances where a lynch on day 2 could come in very handy

hmmm this is a toss up.... I think Yoda is being too townie, and trying to push the scum hunting a little far to get people to target other people like Jabba... but there are a couple of people that have been posting to get people lynch happy... I shall continue to investigate

Sorry I'm not being very active... I have been posting enough to stay active and reading the posts to sort through who I think as scummy.. I just dont want to come out as a huge scum hunter... because if I get taken out and I'm the BLANK, thats a huge blow to the town...

how often should I post to be deemed "active enough"?



this is kinda retarded... there are people that havent even posted... this is like a 40 person game... I posted enough to stay incognito, but at the same time be active... I even entered a contest day 0... I'm not gonna say I'm the most active person here... but I'm pretty sure that considering day 1 there are like 6 pages and 40 people playing this game... I wasnt the least active...

anyways... lynch me if you want... but I can guarentee those who want to, are probably mafia
Wow, pay attention, please.

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I don't get it... if there are 9 people in each vault... then how are they split up... will they all be townies... this game is fucked... I was wondering why there wasnt alot of people posting... being ignorant to the rules isnt a reason to kick someone... but w/e I dont even care anymore... I'm sheriff... but my role is pretty much pointless... cause apparently there is:
A Sane Sheriff will behave as normal.
A Naive Sheriff will see everyone as 'Not Suspicious'.
A Paranoid Sheriff will see everyone as 'Suspicious'.
An Insane Sheriff will see 'Suspicious' people as 'Not Suspicious' and vice versa.

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I don't get it... if there are 9 people in each vault... then how are they split up... will they all be townies... this game is fucked... I was wondering why there wasnt alot of people posting... being ignorant to the rules isnt a reason to kick someone... but w/e I dont even care anymore... I'm sheriff... but my role is pretty much pointless... cause apparently there is:
A Sane Sheriff will behave as normal.
A Naive Sheriff will see everyone as 'Not Suspicious'.
A Paranoid Sheriff will see everyone as 'Suspicious'.
An Insane Sheriff will see 'Suspicious' people as 'Not Suspicious' and vice versa.

so unless I KNOW what sheriff I am... I'm just shooting fish in a barrel... kinda pointless... but lynch away townies
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LMFAO I'll admit I didnt read the rules... but god damn everythings a friggin novel... even when she sent me my role it was like 3 pages long... like I'm into finding scum and reading through peoples messages to find flaws... but reading 30 pages of rp I don't really give a shit about doesn't appeal to me lol... sorry roxy I know you work hard on it, but I don't have the time to read a novel :P... I will post in a minute with a role list and what I think the roles are Reply With Quote .
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Hidden Enclave (Yoda/Jin)
Hidden Neutral (Jabba/Ross)
Hidden NCR (Yoda/Beru)
Hidden NCR (Brostin)
Hidden NCR (Boba/Ross)
Citizen Chandler
Hidden Any (Jabba/Yoda)
Hidden Any (anyone)
Hidden Any (anyone)

this is friggin hard cause we could have anyone for the last 3 roles... but Imma guess 1 town 1 neutral 1 mafia...

My thoughts on everyone:

Jin: he voted himself for technician, but once people started agreeing with this went silent... I'm guessing he was saying he wanted to be technician to act like he didnt have a night action... also explains why there was only one kill yesterday...

Yoda: acting too "Important" and one citizen is already down... he's either a citizen that is one of the hidden any's.. or hes WIFOM mafia, or neutral trying to stay alive

Jabba: seems too much like he just wants to survive... reaks of neutral to me... probably survivor or something to that nature

Beru: didnt really push taking the technician job but hinted towards it... my guess is town PR trying to stay alive but not lose his night action... or mafia trying to get a kill but seem in conspicuous

Ross: didn't post much, I don't know if lurking is good for scum considering there is only 1 confirmed scum in this vault, theyd probably want to be the most outspoken one, not to seem like scum... so hes a candidate for town PR or maybe neutral for me

Nina: also a non poster, seems legit town PR... or maybe neutral

Boba: was first to ask for the technician vote... so I'm going to guess he is not a killing role, but I'm not going to rule out scum, maybe neutral... from the way he talks though town PR is very possible

Brostin: He's very sexy, kinda quiet... claims sheriff but that's probably bullshit... obvious mafia/sexy

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Ok seriously this dude is acting like the dumbest person on earth, if he's jester he didn't play very well. Reply With Quote .
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Was Brostin allowed to post his interview questions?
If he'd answered them in time they would have been posted for all to see anyway

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If he'd answered them in time they would have been posted for all to see anyway

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Did you get a night action in, Brostin? I think this radiation is making people act funny.

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This is Day 2... Day 1 was pointless really... if someone else from my vault thinks its important then they can... this is the first half

Day 2: No rest for the wicked
Good morning everyone! Roxy here with Galaxy Radio.

We have some sad news. It appears that Chandler was murdered during the night; we saw signs of a scuffle on our video feeds but could not make out the killers, unfortunately.

His role was... Citizen!

He did not leave a last will.

This is troubling news.

On a lighter note, Brostin was approached for an interview last night but did not respond to our hails. He is eligible for a free lynch!



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[QUOTE=Brostin]well I think protective is better considering how many killing roles there are... helps towns survivabilty, but of course it has its down falls if you're saving a scum member... but of the 2, I hate roleblocking damnit lol

hmmm I think Yoda is very vocal... but that worries me... usually the most town people are the best scum roles... so I'd say for a leader him, but maybe not for the right reasons...

I think the vault definitely favours scum... because usually when all the good people in town die off you know who the mafia members are jus by the fact that they wouldnt have nothing but new people in them... but really I like the concept, because it gives the better players more of a survivability... if you dont mean the anon accounts and just the fact that all the threads go into one place... I think it really favours scum just because people have no idea where it is and cant discuss all their actions in full... give a better understanding of the day...

yes very in favour... if we get a reliable lead, like someone attacked and at the same time someone being a lookout on them... there are many instances where a lynch on day 2 could come in very handy

hmmm this is a toss up.... I think Yoda is being too townie, and trying to push the scum hunting a little far to get people to target other people like Jabba... but there are a couple of people that have been posting to get people lynch happy... I shall continue to investigate

Sorry I'm not being very active... I have been posting enough to stay active and reading the posts to sort through who I think as scummy.. I just dont want to come out as a huge scum hunter... because if I get taken out and I'm the BLANK, thats a huge blow to the town...

how often should I post to be deemed "active enough"?



this is kinda retarded... there are people that havent even posted... this is like a 40 person game... I posted enough to stay incognito, but at the same time be active... I even entered a contest day 0... I'm not gonna say I'm the most active person here... but I'm pretty sure that considering day 1 there are like 6 pages and 40 people playing this game... I wasnt the least active...

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here were the questions asked

Hello Brostin,

You've been approached for a Radio Interview. This is because of your non-existant contribution to day chat in your vault on Day 1.

You will need to answer each of these questions with adequately significant answers; they must be of a reasonable length and state your opinions, trollish answers will not be satisfactory. If these questions are not answered you will be eligible for a free lynch on Day 2.

Question 1:

Do you think the Technician position should be used for its protective abilities, or role-blocking abilities?

Question 2:

Who do you consider to be the most reliable Town leader right now?

Question 3:

Do you think your vault favours scum roles or the NCR?

Question 4:

Are you in favour of a lynch on day 2?

Question 5:

Who do you consider to be the most suspicious player, and can you provide tangible examples of why you think this?

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well I think protective is better considering how many killing roles there are... helps towns survivabilty, but of course it has its down falls if you're saving a scum member... but of the 2, I hate roleblocking damnit lol

hmmm I think Yoda is very vocal... but that worries me... usually the most town people are the best scum roles... so I'd say for a leader him, but maybe not for the right reasons...

I think the vault definitely favours scum... because usually when all the good people in town die off you know who the mafia members are jus by the fact that they wouldnt have nothing but new people in them... but really I like the concept, because it gives the better players more of a survivability... if you dont mean the anon accounts and just the fact that all the threads go into one place... I think it really favours scum just because people have no idea where it is and cant discuss all their actions in full... give a better understanding of the day...

yes very in favour... if we get a reliable lead, like someone attacked and at the same time someone being a lookout on them... there are many instances where a lynch on day 2 could come in very handy

hmmm this is a toss up.... I think Yoda is being too townie, and trying to push the scum hunting a little far to get people to target other people like Jabba... but there are a couple of people that have been posting to get people lynch happy... I shall continue to investigate

Sorry I'm not being very active... I have been posting enough to stay active and reading the posts to sort through who I think as scummy.. I just dont want to come out as a huge scum hunter... because if I get taken out and I'm the BLANK, thats a huge blow to the town...

how often should I post to be deemed "active enough"?



this is kinda retarded... there are people that havent even posted... this is like a 40 person game... I posted enough to stay incognito, but at the same time be active... I even entered a contest day 0... I'm not gonna say I'm the most active person here... but I'm pretty sure that considering day 1 there are like 6 pages and 40 people playing this game... I wasnt the least active...

anyways... lynch me if you want... but I can guarentee those who want to, are probably mafia
Wow, pay attention, please.

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I don't get it... if there are 9 people in each vault... then how are they split up... will they all be townies... this game is fucked... I was wondering why there wasnt alot of people posting... being ignorant to the rules isnt a reason to kick someone... but w/e I dont even care anymore... I'm sheriff... but my role is pretty much pointless... cause apparently there is:
A Sane Sheriff will behave as normal.
A Naive Sheriff will see everyone as 'Not Suspicious'.
A Paranoid Sheriff will see everyone as 'Suspicious'.
An Insane Sheriff will see 'Suspicious' people as 'Not Suspicious' and vice versa.

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I don't get it... if there are 9 people in each vault... then how are they split up... will they all be townies... this game is fucked... I was wondering why there wasnt alot of people posting... being ignorant to the rules isnt a reason to kick someone... but w/e I dont even care anymore... I'm sheriff... but my role is pretty much pointless... cause apparently there is:
A Sane Sheriff will behave as normal.
A Naive Sheriff will see everyone as 'Not Suspicious'.
A Paranoid Sheriff will see everyone as 'Suspicious'.
An Insane Sheriff will see 'Suspicious' people as 'Not Suspicious' and vice versa.

so unless I KNOW what sheriff I am... I'm just shooting fish in a barrel... kinda pointless... but lynch away townies
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LMFAO I'll admit I didnt read the rules... but god damn everythings a friggin novel... even when she sent me my role it was like 3 pages long... like I'm into finding scum and reading through peoples messages to find flaws... but reading 30 pages of rp I don't really give a shit about doesn't appeal to me lol... sorry roxy I know you work hard on it, but I don't have the time to read a novel :P... I will post in a minute with a role list and what I think the roles are Reply With Quote .
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Hidden Enclave (Yoda/Jin)
Hidden Neutral (Jabba/Ross)
Hidden NCR (Yoda/Beru)
Hidden NCR (Brostin)
Hidden NCR (Boba/Ross)
Citizen Chandler
Hidden Any (Jabba/Yoda)
Hidden Any (anyone)
Hidden Any (anyone)

this is friggin hard cause we could have anyone for the last 3 roles... but Imma guess 1 town 1 neutral 1 mafia...

My thoughts on everyone:

Jin: he voted himself for technician, but once people started agreeing with this went silent... I'm guessing he was saying he wanted to be technician to act like he didnt have a night action... also explains why there was only one kill yesterday...

Yoda: acting too "Important" and one citizen is already down... he's either a citizen that is one of the hidden any's.. or hes WIFOM mafia, or neutral trying to stay alive

Jabba: seems too much like he just wants to survive... reaks of neutral to me... probably survivor or something to that nature

Beru: didnt really push taking the technician job but hinted towards it... my guess is town PR trying to stay alive but not lose his night action... or mafia trying to get a kill but seem in conspicuous

Ross: didn't post much, I don't know if lurking is good for scum considering there is only 1 confirmed scum in this vault, theyd probably want to be the most outspoken one, not to seem like scum... so hes a candidate for town PR or maybe neutral for me

Nina: also a non poster, seems legit town PR... or maybe neutral

Boba: was first to ask for the technician vote... so I'm going to guess he is not a killing role, but I'm not going to rule out scum, maybe neutral... from the way he talks though town PR is very possible

Brostin: He's very sexy, kinda quiet... claims sheriff but that's probably bullshit... obvious mafia/sexy

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Ok seriously this dude is acting like the dumbest person on earth, if he's jester he didn't play very well. Reply With Quote .
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Did you get a night action in, Brostin? I think this radiation is making people act funny.

Can you please not copy and paste the WHOLE fucking page?

[Phoebe]

Well, this is what happened in my vault (Vault 66):

Hidden Wastelander
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Biggs - claims Student with no master.
Ben - Ventriloquist
Bragg
Klaus
Lei
Paul
Phoebe
Rachel - Detective
Rodgers - Claims sane Sheriff, lurky and doesn't contribute much. He checked Biggs night 2 and Ben night 3.
Wicket
Rachel (Detective): Executed via decapitation. [Night 1]
Ben (Puppet): Lynched. [Day 3]
1. How exactly does this work? Do we have to survive until Day 4 in order to join the "main" FM?
Correct.

2. Can we lynch on Day One?
Absolutely.

3. What if there are multiple mafia members in our Vault (from different factions)? Can they all attack at night?
As mentioned in this thread, "in the vault the strike force members act independently." So yes.

1. What do you think of being in a vault, does this aid scum or town more?
2. Do you think there is a jailor or devourer in your vault, or a fabricator?

3. There were no lynch trains on day 2, do you think you can explain this unwillingness to vote?

4. Who do you find to be the most suspicious, and why?

5. Who do you think is the most reliable, and why?



woot!!!!!!! hed vigi here with radio interview!! head vigilante is popular!!

11. I think vault aids scum more cuz town dosnt know if ther r specifc scum or not!

2. well obv there isn't a fabricator cuz rachel said she 'claimed'. unless there is both: a fabricator and lawyer. but i think it's a devourer!

3. simple: no leads, no votes! ever since my lynch train in day 1 they got scared of another random lynch train. dw, this is all in the hands of the head vigi head vigi takes care of all trolls and scum!!

4. no clue, evryone is scummy-looking. if u ask me, i keel them all!! maybe Ben bcuz he tries to appear to be smart so town can trust him. it could also be Wicket because everyone has a FOS on him. (finger of suspcion = FOS)

5. i think phoebe the head vigi is the most reliable!! doc, armorsmith, gunsmith, etc should be on phoebe. if it has to be someone other than me then i would say Klaus bcuz he has a fish avatar, and maybe this means that he likes to fish out scum. Klaus could be a PR or something of that sort.
1) No one came close to being lynched on Day 2 - do you think the lack of votes is strange?

with the lurking and the lack of info? no not really. though day 1 looked different


2) There was an execution on Night 1; do you think this is the work of a Jailor or Devourer?


I already said that. devourer for sure


3) There were no other night kills or feedback messages claimed today. Do you think anyone is hiding something?


maybe a mafia or devourer player said nothing about an action or someone got armor or a gun or something like that. or your just trolling us and made a vault without night pms


4) Who do you think is the most suspicious person, and can you provide any tangible evidence to support your theory?


Paul is trying to hard to look like a townie so he's a really bad cit, or a godfather or devourer who wants to lead town. I think he's scum
1. Do you have any current ideas on what roles may be in your vault?
I only know that there is a jailor or a devourer and I know my own role but beside that I really don't know. Nobody said that anything happend to them so I have no idea. Maybe a doctor or a mayor or a consigliere? Mason leader could be there too and there is a neutral that doesnt kill.

2. Do you find the execution of Rachel suspicious?
Yes I think so. I mean she didnt say much on day1 and could have been mafia but if she was in jail she could defend herself and she said that she thought the jailor trusted her.

3. People have been lurking in Vault 66 - are you in favour of a lynch on Day 3?
Yes I think that we should lynch but we need some evidence I hope that someone finds something tonight so we have more to talk about.

4. Who do you find to be the most suspicious, and why?
I dont know because everyone says nothing happened. I think that the devourer is hiding in day so maybe biggs or bragg or klaus.

5. Who do you think is the most reliable, and why?
Ben and paul talk a lot and they seem smart and ask things to find mafia. Wicket is smart too but she confuses me because she asks questions that dont look important and when she gets no answer she doesnt push.


Day 1 - I started a random lynch on a player named Lei, I looked forward to see who wouldn't join the bandwagon and who would. I picked him because of his low post count, and kinda randomly. Bragg, Paul, and Wicket joined the train but then I stopped it.

Day 2 - Nothing, no one was lynched, etc. Rachel died, we are not sure if it was a Devourer, or a failor. Wicket pointed and counted out the deaths he saw in the Members section. First night there was 6 deaths through all vaults and the second there was 5.

Day 3 - We got a Sane sheriff claim (Rodgers), in which he claimed Ben was suspicious. Ben was lynched and he was a puppet. Ben didn't post that day, and Rodgers didn't post after he pointed out Ben. Before Ben was lynched, Wicket posted "Devourer
Student
Detective
NCR
Ventrilloquist
Ventrilloquist"
We only had one night-kill in our vault, so I believe that BOTH VENTRILLOQUISTS are in the SAME TEAM.

That day we were discussing and we got a Student roleclaim from Biggs who has no master. So Rodgers is either Sane Sheriff or Ventriloquist.

[Leia]

Hello everybody. I briefly skimmed this thread but I need to go to bed soon so I will have to read more in the morning. What Mkoll has said looks accurate.

There is at least one more orange mafia in our vault because there were consort blocks N1 and N2 yet the mafia still killed on N2. I believe the third orange mafia is a drug dealer.

Probable Mafia night actions in our vault:
Fabricator – Stan
N1 Kill Chewy
Consort – King
N1 Mkoll
N2 Kill Greedo
DD – Larkin
N1 ---
N2 RB Leia

Greedo claimed detective on D2 and said he followed Stan when he killed Chewbacca. King defended Stan and voted for Greedo. Larkin changed his opinion about Stan many times and eventually cast the hammer vote. Mkoll wanted to award him a Romney Mitten for his changing opinions.

On Day 2 I claimed a role that would not be able to distinguish a real role block from a fake one. Night 2 I was role blocked yet there was an orange mafia kill. There is no indication of a second role blocker in our vault. I think King was sent to kill night 2 since he was most suspicious and Larkin drug dealed me night 2 so he could claim escort and I would not know the difference between a real and fake role block.

-vote Larkin

I will sleep now but any Vault 103 person can answer questions. It's important to gather all the information and lynch another scum today. I’ll come back to read and answer any questions in the morning, but perhaps Mkoll can pick things up for me if he agrees with my suspicions. Goodnight for now.

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why don't you post what you said jabba and why people thought you were scum... pushing for a mislynch with no solid leads?... he was being really aggressive and I offer myself even today... to be lynched/jailed/vigilante... I have claimed my role and really its a pointless role considering I don't know which one I am... as long as Jabba gets lynched the next day when you see I'm sheriff... if you saw his posts he was acting like the scummiest person... tryin to force mislynch on me... just because I claimed and didnt die... then came up with this Yoda theory... he's so obviously setting me up, so plz kill me... I will take the bullet to find scum for the town

btw sorry about the last post... I tried to spoiler

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why don't you post what you said jabba and why people thought you were scum... pushing for a mislynch with no solid leads?... he was being really aggressive and I offer myself even today... to be lynched/jailed/vigilante... I have claimed my role and really its a pointless role considering I don't know which one I am... as long as Jabba gets lynched the next day when you see I'm sheriff... if you saw his posts he was acting like the scummiest person... tryin to force mislynch on me... just because I claimed and didnt die... then came up with this Yoda theory... he's so obviously setting me up, so plz kill me... I will take the bullet to find scum for the town

btw sorry about the last post... I tried to spoiler


Only other person who really thought I was scum was Nina.

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Well, this is what happened in my vault (Vault 66):

Hidden Wastelander
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Biggs - claims Student with no master.
Ben - Puppet
Bragg
Klaus
Lei
Paul
Phoebe
Rachel - Detective
Rodgers - Claims sane Sheriff, lurky and doesn't contribute much. He checked Biggs night 2 and Ben night 3.
Wicket
Rachel (Detective): Executed via decapitation. [Night 1]
Ben (Puppet): Lynched. [Day 3]
1. How exactly does this work? Do we have to survive until Day 4 in order to join the "main" FM?
Correct.

2. Can we lynch on Day One?
Absolutely.

3. What if there are multiple mafia members in our Vault (from different factions)? Can they all attack at night?
As mentioned in this thread, "in the vault the strike force members act independently." So yes.

1. What do you think of being in a vault, does this aid scum or town more?
2. Do you think there is a jailor or devourer in your vault, or a fabricator?

3. There were no lynch trains on day 2, do you think you can explain this unwillingness to vote?

4. Who do you find to be the most suspicious, and why?

5. Who do you think is the most reliable, and why?



woot!!!!!!! hed vigi here with radio interview!! head vigilante is popular!!

11. I think vault aids scum more cuz town dosnt know if ther r specifc scum or not!

2. well obv there isn't a fabricator cuz rachel said she 'claimed'. unless there is both: a fabricator and lawyer. but i think it's a devourer!

3. simple: no leads, no votes! ever since my lynch train in day 1 they got scared of another random lynch train. dw, this is all in the hands of the head vigi head vigi takes care of all trolls and scum!!

4. no clue, evryone is scummy-looking. if u ask me, i keel them all!! maybe Ben bcuz he tries to appear to be smart so town can trust him. it could also be Wicket because everyone has a FOS on him. (finger of suspcion = FOS)

5. i think phoebe the head vigi is the most reliable!! doc, armorsmith, gunsmith, etc should be on phoebe. if it has to be someone other than me then i would say Klaus bcuz he has a fish avatar, and maybe this means that he likes to fish out scum. Klaus could be a PR or something of that sort.
1) No one came close to being lynched on Day 2 - do you think the lack of votes is strange?

with the lurking and the lack of info? no not really. though day 1 looked different


2) There was an execution on Night 1; do you think this is the work of a Jailor or Devourer?


I already said that. devourer for sure


3) There were no other night kills or feedback messages claimed today. Do you think anyone is hiding something?


maybe a mafia or devourer player said nothing about an action or someone got armor or a gun or something like that. or your just trolling us and made a vault without night pms


4) Who do you think is the most suspicious person, and can you provide any tangible evidence to support your theory?


Paul is trying to hard to look like a townie so he's a really bad cit, or a godfather or devourer who wants to lead town. I think he's scum
1. Do you have any current ideas on what roles may be in your vault?
I only know that there is a jailor or a devourer and I know my own role but beside that I really don't know. Nobody said that anything happend to them so I have no idea. Maybe a doctor or a mayor or a consigliere? Mason leader could be there too and there is a neutral that doesnt kill.

2. Do you find the execution of Rachel suspicious?
Yes I think so. I mean she didnt say much on day1 and could have been mafia but if she was in jail she could defend herself and she said that she thought the jailor trusted her.

3. People have been lurking in Vault 66 - are you in favour of a lynch on Day 3?
Yes I think that we should lynch but we need some evidence I hope that someone finds something tonight so we have more to talk about.

4. Who do you find to be the most suspicious, and why?
I dont know because everyone says nothing happened. I think that the devourer is hiding in day so maybe biggs or bragg or klaus.

5. Who do you think is the most reliable, and why?
Ben and paul talk a lot and they seem smart and ask things to find mafia. Wicket is smart too but she confuses me because she asks questions that dont look important and when she gets no answer she doesnt push.


Day 1 - I started a random lynch on a player named Lei, I looked forward to see who wouldn't join the bandwagon and who would. I picked him because of his low post count, and kinda randomly. Bragg, Paul, and Wicket joined the train but then I stopped it.

Day 2 - Nothing, no one was lynched, etc. Rachel died, we are not sure if it was a Devourer, or a failor. Wicket pointed and counted out the deaths he saw in the Members section. First night there was 6 deaths through all vaults and the second there was 5.

Day 3 - We got a Sane sheriff claim (Rodgers), in which he claimed Ben was suspicious. Ben was lynched and he was a puppet. Ben didn't post that day, and Rodgers didn't post after he pointed out Ben. Before Ben was lynched, Wicket posted "Devourer
Student
Detective
NCR
Ventrilloquist
Ventrilloquist"
We only had one night-kill in our vault, so I believe that BOTH VENTRILLOQUISTS are in the SAME TEAM.

That day we were discussing and we got a Student roleclaim from Biggs who has no master. So Rodgers is either Sane Sheriff or Ventriloquist.
Woops, fixed an error in quote. Ben was a puppet not a Ventriloquist.

[Phoebe]

This is gonna be a uber-headache.

[Jabba]

why don't you post what you said jabba and why people thought you were scum... pushing for a mislynch with no solid leads?... he was being really aggressive and I offer myself even today... to be lynched/jailed/vigilante... I have claimed my role and really its a pointless role considering I don't know which one I am... as long as Jabba gets lynched the next day when you see I'm sheriff... if you saw his posts he was acting like the scummiest person... tryin to force mislynch on me... just because I claimed and didnt die... then came up with this Yoda theory... he's so obviously setting me up, so plz kill me... I will take the bullet to find scum for the town

btw sorry about the last post... I tried to spoiler

Volunteering to die is also scummy. You have no way to prove you are what you say you are and you know you are not, so you resort to dying. Any real sheriff would never do such a thing.

You are trying to use reverse psychology. This is very common for Mafia to do and it no longer works.

My best bet is that you are rather new to the game.

[Rawne]

Hey guys, I'd rather get as much information from all the vaults as we can BEFORE we start lynching people. I'm sure there are suspects in every vault, but as it is there's no way we are going to lynch anybody until we all figure out the information everyone is posting. Stop pursuing personal agendas for a brief moment and figure out what's left out of all of us.

[Phoebe]

Hey guys, I'd rather get as much information from all the vaults as we can BEFORE we start lynching people. I'm sure there are suspects in every vault, but as it is there's no way we are going to lynch anybody until we all figure out the information everyone is posting. Stop pursuing personal agendas for a brief moment and figure out what's left out of all of us.

+1

[Rawne]

Here's another roles list update, using adding information from Vault 66. Note that I did NOT list anything that hasn't been 100% confirmed yet.

Vault 103

Chewbacca
Greedo
King
Larkin
Leia
Mkoll
Monica
Stan
Tebow

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (Stan – Fabricator)
Sheriff
Hidden NCR (Chewbacca – Saboteur)
Hidden NCR (Greedo – Citizen)
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (King – Consort)
​Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Role List for Vault 37:

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda

Hidden Enclave (Janitor?)
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Chandler)
Hidden Any (enclave)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

yoda dead, role unknown

Vault 5

Yoshimitsu
Law
Francine
Gaunt
Brady
Ackbar
Steve
Hayley

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Hayley)
Hidden Any (Steve - Citizen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

ackbar dead, role unknown

Vault 21

Brees
Eddy
Luke
Manning
Owen
Rawne
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR (Eddy - Enchantress)
Hidden NCR (bus driver)
Citizen (Owen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Vault 66

Biggs
Ben
Bragg
Klaus
Lei
Paul
Phoebe
Rachel
Rodgers
Wicket

Hidden Wastelander
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Any (jailor/devourer)
Hidden Any (puppet)
Hidden Any (ventriloquist)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

[Lando]

Vault 9

The Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel may not kill anyone at night, nor may any Wasteland Wanderers or NCR Killing Roles - the only weapons available in the vault are awarded through a voting system. Once a player has been given a killing ability they may use it whenever they wish.

During each day, instead of voting to LYNCH a player, you will vote to GIFT a player a weapon. When a player has received a weapon, at night they may choose to use the abilities of their weapon OR ​use their normal night action.

Day 1: Normal majority vote - once a player is 'hammered', they will receive a TWO-SHOT VIGILANTE GUN. Kills made by this gun will register as Vigilante kills.

Day 2: Secret ballot - one vote per player, sent directly to me, whoever has the most votes at the end of the day will be gifted with a VETERAN'S ASSAULT RIFLE. The player is gifted with the option to go on Alert at night a total of THREE times, and will act like a Veteran whilst on Alert. Kills made while on Alert will be registered as Veteran kills, and the player will be immune to death that night.

Day 3: Secret ballot, one vote per player, sent directly to me. Whoever has the most votes may CHOOSE to give another player the abilities of a GUNSMITH - whoever wins the secret ballot may not choose to give themselves the ability of a Gunsmith, but must pick another player. The Gunsmith will have unlimited charges of his role and may act like a normal Gunsmith.

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Role List for Vault 9:

Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen - Heihachi, Killed by a Mysterious Stranger [Night 1]

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Participants of Vault 9:

Fluttershy
Han
Heihachi
Lando
Roger
Romo
Vader

FAQ

1. Will the votes of the secret ballot vote be revealed at the end of the day?
No, secret ballot remains a secret

2. Is giving out the Gunsmith ability hidden or will everybody know who got the Gunsmith ability?
It is hidden, only the player who has chosen a target will know who he chose.

3. May the Jailor still jail but not execute at night? Is it the same for the Devourer?
Correct, night actions can continue as normal, just no kills.

4. May the Arsonist douse?
Yes, but not ignite.

5. Will a Bodyguard shoot back?
Only if he protects someone who is shot with one of the guns given out - both players will die in the ensuing melee.

6. Witching the one with the Vigilante gun will force him to use it? Or only if he chose to use it anyway. What if it is a Citizen holding the gun, but not wanting to shoot?
Witching someone with the Vigilante gun will make him use it, overriding all other actions.

7. Saboteur kill doesn't count as a regular kill. Will he be able to kill in the Vault?
Yes, the Saboteur may send in his night action as per usual.

8. Is there a tie breaker for the secret ballot votes or what will happen in case of a tie?
In the event of a tie, the result will be randomised.

9. If there is an actual Gunsmith among the players, will a given out gun on night 1 work when trying to kill someone on night 2?
Correct, it will count as an issued item. This is the same for Armoursmiths and Arms Dealers.

Finishing comments:
We have a Gunsmith and one remaining shot from a Vigilante gun remaining. We don't want to reveal their wielders to prevent a Witch from abusing them. Targets for them should be directed via day chat.
We also decided to keep the Veteran's Assault Rifle hidden. The question whether it should be revealed or not is decided today.
I vote to reveal the wielder. Only the members of our Vault are eligible to vote.

Above is also part of the reason why I will reveal no day chat for now.

[Brostin]

wow Jabba... you're such a tool... I can't wait till I die and they lynch your dumb ass... you need to learn to play and not get tunnel vision... it just makes you seem scummy as shit...

[Gaunt]

Hey I see Yoshi allready posted his take on vault 5 this is my take on it. Only important posts are shown, my theory is that Francine is Enclave. I am very confident in this, actually way more confident than when I got tricked by the setup into thinking Steve was Scum.

When I was going over vault 5 and preparing this post via microsoft word last night i noticed hidden ncr can include citizen vs for the entire vault chat we thought it meant hidden NCR power. That means our speculation was wrong take that into account.

Also I can't seem to find where Ackbar's role is so I am putting him under hidden any.


Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR - Steve (citizen, dead)[/U]
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

This is my thoughts on vault 5 after going over the vault night 3:
Hidden Enclave - Francine
Hidden Wastelander - Brady
Hidden NCR - Yoshimitsu
Hidden NCR -Gaunt
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any - Steve (citizen, dead)
Hidden Any- Law
Hidden Any - Ackbar (dead)

I realized when going over the nightchat last night hidden NCR didn't have to be town power role, it could also be citizen.
_____________________________________________

Francine is almost certainly enclave. She has shown all the classic scumtells. Here are some things that went on in the vault that make me almost certain she is enclave. Credit to Yoshimitsu who exposed her as scum in retrospect.

Yoshmitsu: Ah yes, things happened the exact way I wanted them too. I purposely put up Hayley's name (and I question I was sure no one would answer (which I was also right about)) to try and weed out scum voters looking for a train to start. I didn't expect Steve to vote Hayley and that boggles me, because I really do think he is a citizen, for now.

But now, I'm setting my sights onto Gaunt and Francine, the two people who jumped on Hayley as soon as I mentioned her name.

If only one of them were scum, then I'd put my money of Francine for a variety of reasons.

1. She appears to be helpful to the town by posting tallies, and defending people who, I think, are obviously town.

2. She isn't actually helpful to anyone, she hasn't actually called anyone out, and she hasn't started her own line of suspicion yet.

3. She was searching for the citizen. While this seems to be pro-town due to her explanation, it is far from. If she find the citizen, then she knows who each and every non-citizen is.

4. Quick jump. She jumped on the Hayley train right after with no explanation whatsoever for her vote besides saying that her primary suspicions are on Hayley

DAY 2

Yoshimitsu: On another note Francine, if I told you I was an investigator, and investigated you last night. What would your initial reaction be?

Same goes to you Gaunt.

Just letting you know, if I was an investigator, I visited one of you to. You guys better tell the truth.

Francine: Sorry, Yoshimitsu, but NCR does NOT have an investigator. Mafia DOES has Consigliere though. And because of that, my finger of suspicion is now on you. Why you mentioned investigator while there is NO town-aligned investigator?

-vote Yoshimitsu

By the way, if I was really investigated by NCR town role, I would be relieved. The problem is, there are not many reliable investigation roles in the town. Just what are you, Yoshimitsu?

Yoshimitsu: I was asking a question, not roleclaiming. Learn the difference.

Francine: And I just answered it to you.

Was "investigator" a relative term of yours, perhaps? Does it mean investigative town power role in general?

Yoshimitsu: For me, Investigator includes all sheriff types, detective, and lookout

Francine: Well, I guess I was rash in my thinking. Sorry about that.

-unvote Yoshimitsu

I assume that you know something about me already, aren't you?

DAY 3

The following posts combined with the day 2 chat make me strongly believe she is Brotherhood

Francine: How else you would contribute in this kind of situation? Guess I should tell you what happened in Russian Roulette first.

I was shooting first, and the bullet was in number three. When Steve started his turn, he shot himself not once, but twice - and died in the game as result. Had he shot himself once, I would be dead afterwards. DEAD! So I had a change of heart and deciced to reveal my role first.

My true role is Dreamer. Almost as useless as citizen, at least inside the vault. Even outside my role won't be any of use, so if you want to pull me through Melon Roulette, go ahead.

I'm sure that Brady is a either Enclave or Wastelander, but right now I have no idea who is the other scum (was sure that it was Steve). I heard very little from Ackbar and I would like to hear more from him. I will vote Brady for sure, but regarding about my second vote I will have to think.

If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.

Gaunt (Me): If you broke out of Vault 5 how would you plan to use your dream ability to help the NCR? I agree everyone vote brady, if he survives we can all reccomend we lynch him to the other vault dwellers.

Francine: I'll use my dream ability as soon as we get out of vault. It will pick up random 7 names (among the players that are alive), that's why it is useless to spend it inside.

Ackbar: Question: Would you be willing to go into melon roulette in attempt to gain another ability?

Gaunt (me): Question: How do we know you aren't just going to pick seven random names out of your ass, or worse seven names you and the enclave want to see killed?

Sorry but Dreamer is like one of the easiest claims to make ever.

Francine: You can't. It is only a matter of trust. If trust is that much difficult to gain, feel free to nominate me into Melon Roulette, but be sure that two scum roles are in it as well. I said everything I wanted to say.

As for Ackbar's question, I guess melon roulette will be my only chance to make myself useful. Scum roles will probably just try to survive in that game. I'm not like that - i'll try to eat more melons than other participants in order to gain the hidden bonus.

Gaunt (me): I've allready said my position but it helps that Francine wants to go into the roulette. To increase trust in you tomorrow if you are alive you should recant your melon roulette experience. Outside of the vault I am going to be paying more attention to my vault-mates than anyone else since I know you a lot better than the random strangers.

Francine: That being said, my initial sense about Steve on Day 1 was right after all. If Hayley would'n died on first night, we would be able to trust him even now. While I already revealed my role, I know nothing about rest of you guys. Gaunt was the guy with most trust, but after Steve's death even I now have my doubts about him.

And another thing - votes are anonymous. What will happen if you suddenly end up in the Melon Roulette, Gaunt?

Gaunt (me): If I end up in the vault I will bitch about it because I don't want to die and then proceed to win and get my one use item

I've already said my thoughts on that lol but I suppose it would be either Yoshi and me or Yoshi and Ackbar.

Francine: Why you put yourself in "random any" instead of Hidden NCR then?

Gaunt (Me): To create suspense, Yoshimitsu did the same thing after all. Hidden NCR is power role I said I am NCR alligned not what role I am. For all you know I'm the third citizen in this vault going for the citizen incarnate award. I won't claim until the time is right

I think she is Enclave and I will post reasons later but I want to know what everyone thinks of the nightchats first and get other feedback before I vote. Francine is the best lynch from day 5 but not overall.


OH AND THERE IS 1/2 CHANCE SHE WON THE MELON ROULETTE AND GOT AN ITEM FOR HER ENCLAVE TEAMMATES!
__________________________________________________ ______

[Phoebe]

Here's another roles list update, using adding information from Vault 66. Note that I did NOT list anything that hasn't been 100% confirmed yet.

Vault 103

Chewbacca
Greedo
King
Larkin
Leia
Mkoll
Monica
Stan
Tebow

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (Stan – Fabricator)
Sheriff
Hidden NCR (Chewbacca – Saboteur)
Hidden NCR (Greedo – Citizen)
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (King – Consort)
​Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Role List for Vault 37:

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda

Hidden Enclave (Janitor?)
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Chandler)
Hidden Any (enclave)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

yoda dead, role unknown

Vault 5

Yoshimitsu
Law
Francine
Gaunt
Brady
Ackbar
Steve
Hayley

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Hayley)
Hidden Any (Steve - Citizen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

ackbar dead, role unknown

Vault 21

Brees
Eddy
Luke
Manning
Owen
Rawne
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR (Eddy - Enchantress)
Hidden NCR (bus driver)
Citizen (Owen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Vault 66

Biggs
Ben
Bragg
Klaus
Lei
Paul
Phoebe
Rachel
Rodgers
Wicket

Hidden Wastelander
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Any (jailor/devourer)
Hidden Any (puppet)
Hidden Any (ventriloquist)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

You forgot Vault 66's Detective. Also, I forgot to point out that Vault 66 was normal. We didn't have a Night action in Night 0 or Night 3.

[Gaunt]

sorry for the format errors, so many html codes and I didn't realize a couple until I posted

[Biggs]

sup dawg ds vault 66 hur
pheobe yow dun reveal mah role! yurr i am a student without a mentor. I will be accepting applications to tutor me today.

Rodgers cuz seys he to be sane sheriff, but I see that vault 103 has a sheriff.
mayb der r 2 sheriffs, bt idk about rdgers yet.
If rodgers is sheriff though, he is sane because he checked me n1 w inno and he outed a puppet day 2 (ben) who we execute.
It is also possible he just random innoed me and then outed one of his own puppets, but I believe he had reason to check me, as I was lurking day 1.

in dis vaultizzle sum police jailor dude killed mah sistah rachel night 1. it could be a corrupt jailor mang.. possibly a devourer.
but we had nobody executed n2 brh, so it could hav bin one of dem failors.
so we had

devourere/jailor
dective [dead, rachel]
student [biggs]
puppet [dead, ben]
puppet
ventriloquist
sheriff [?]
some random anys.

we only had 1 kill the enitre time dawg

[Phoebe]

sup dawg ds vault 66 hur
pheobe yow dun reveal mah role! yurr i am a student without a mentor. I will be accepting applications to tutor me today.

Rodgers cuz seys he to be sane sheriff, but I see that vault 103 has a sheriff.
mayb der r 2 sheriffs, bt idk about rdgers yet.
If rodgers is sheriff though, he is sane because he checked me n1 w inno and he outed a puppet day 2 (ben) who we execute.
It is also possible he just random innoed me and then outed one of his own puppets, but I believe he had reason to check me, as I was lurking day 1.

in dis vaultizzle sum police jailor dude killed mah sistah rachel night 1. it could be a corrupt jailor mang.. possibly a devourer.
but we had nobody executed n2 brh, so it could hav bin one of dem failors.
so we had

devourere/jailor
dective [dead, rachel]
student [biggs]
puppet [dead, ben]
puppet
ventriloquist
sheriff [?]
some random anys.

we only had 1 kill the enitre time dawg

Lol, I wasn't sure whether to reveal your role or not, but no one will care if you really are a neutral. I don't know why Mafia would bother killing you.

[Rawne]

You forgot Vault 66's Detective. Also, I forgot to point out that Vault 66 was normal. We didn't have a Night action in Night 0 or Night 3.

Whoops, added. So here I have yet another update. I think all 6 vaults have had their players and roles listed.

Vault 103

Chewbacca
Greedo
King
Larkin
Leia
Mkoll
Monica
Stan
Tebow

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (Stan – Fabricator)
Sheriff
Hidden NCR (Chewbacca – Saboteur)
Hidden NCR (Greedo – Citizen)
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden Brotherhood of Steel (King – Consort)
​Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Role List for Vault 37:

Beru
Boba
Brostin
Chandler
Jabba
Jin
Nina
Ross
Yoda

Hidden Enclave (Janitor?)
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Chandler)
Hidden Any (enclave)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

yoda dead, role unknown

Vault 5

Yoshimitsu
Law
Francine
Gaunt
Brady
Ackbar
Steve
Hayley

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Hayley)
Hidden Any (Steve - Citizen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

ackbar dead, role unknown
brady has an unknown ability in addition to his role

Vault 21

Brees
Eddy
Luke
Manning
Owen
Rawne
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR (Eddy - Enchantress)
Hidden NCR (bus driver)
Citizen (Owen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Vault 66

Biggs
Ben
Bragg
Klaus
Lei
Paul
Phoebe
Rachel
Rodgers
Wicket

Hidden Wastelander
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR (detective)
Hidden NCR
Hidden Any (jailor/devourer)
Hidden Any (puppet)
Hidden Any (ventriloquist)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Vault 9

Fluttershy
Han
Heihachi
Lando
Roger
Romo
Vader

Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Wastelander
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Heihachi)

someone has one vig shot
someone has 3 vet alerts
someone has gunsmith ability

I count 52 people total, so with 14 dead, 38 remain.

[Rawne]

There are four more accounts than there are roles, so clearly there are two ventriloquists in the game. Phoebe, how are you sure they were both in your vault? I'm probably missing bits and pieces from trying to read everything.

[Biggs]

Rawne, on our role list "Hidden wastelander" includes benign and killing.
Dont know why you havent marked me as student there yet.

[Phoebe]

There are four more accounts than there are roles, so clearly there are two ventriloquists in the game. Phoebe, how are you sure they were both in your vault? I'm probably missing bits and pieces from trying to read everything.

NO mafia kills at all. Wicket came up with this, but I investigated further and came to this conclusion of them being in the same (Orange) mafia team. In the role-card it says they are not allowed to be sent to kill unless they are the last one from their team.

So if both of them are alone, I doubt they can kill.

[Biggs]

Rawne, I'm certain both vent's were in our vault because #1 a puppet died.
and #2 that there was literally no productive discussion in our vaults. Since we had a lynch on day 3, with exactly 6 votes I can tell u who possible puppets are in a sec. I haven't worked it out yet
because you know vent/puppets only have 1 collective vote

[Yoshimitsu]

sorry for the format errors, so many html codes and I didn't realize a couple until I posted

Read post 14 in this thread. Francine was not voted into Melon Roulette, it was me, Ackbar, and Brady. Brady won the roulette.

This leads me to the conclusion that Francine, Brady, and Law voted me. And that Francine and Law are definitely scum. I am still wary of you, however.

Ackbar was also voted in, which means he had to have gotten three votes. I'm sure Francine was one.

[Rawne]

Okay, thanks guys for answering my question. That makes a lot of sense.


Rawne, on our role list "Hidden wastelander" includes benign and killing.
Dont know why you havent marked me as student there yet.

For the moment, I'm not listing roleclaims of anyone who is alive right now. Does that mean I think you're lying? No.

[Brostin]

I say we go through each vault thoroughly and try and get the best suspects..one by one

[Rawne]

Oh I do have a followup: with both ventriloquists and all of their puppets in the same vault, there could only be 6 total votes if everyone votes. Did everyone vote at one point? If not, it could mean a puppet or two was placed in a different vault.

[Yoshimitsu]

I say we go through each vault thoroughly and try and get the best suspects..one by one

Well if we start from Vault 5: The suspect everyone agrees on is Francine, followed by Brady, followed by Law, and then I'm still wary of Gaunt

[Rawne]

Wait, I meant that in the sense that whether everyone voted or not there's still the chance a puppet got placed in a different vault. I can't word my thoughts well.

[Biggs]

Rodgers, Biggs, Bragg, Klaus, Wicket all voted for ben. and 5 was the exact amount required to hammer.
This leaves non voters:

Lei Paul Phoebe Rodgers

if we have 2 ventriloquists, then 3/4 of those remaining are puppets.
If we have 1 vent, then 1/4 of those remaining are puppet.

I make the assumption that one of the puppets/realacc for each ventriloquist voted for ben. [worst case assumption]

[Biggs]

I will not be choosing anyone from my vault as mentor because I do not want a ventrioquist as my mentor (-.-)

[Jabba]

I will not be choosing anyone from my vault as mentor because I do not want a ventrioquist as my mentor (-.-)

Reason why you should choose:

I am an important town role that is decently fun to play as, but I want to emphasize that I am VERY important and you will be required leadership skills when the task is in your grasp. I need someone to be my successor when I die.

Think about it tonight, Biggs. You would do us all a favor.

[Phoebe]

I will not be choosing anyone from my vault as mentor because I do not want a ventrioquist as my mentor (-.-)

Choose me, I have a muppet avatar and I most certainly am NOT a PUPPET or Ventriloquist. 8)

[Biggs]

Choose me, I have a muppet avatar and I most certainly am NOT a PUPPET or Ventriloquist. 8)

head vigi night chat wud b slappin dawg 8)

[Yoshimitsu]

Anyone currying Students will be considered scum in my books, stop it

[Jabba]

Anyone currying Students will be considered scum in my books, stop it

Actually, do you really think Mafia would try it?

[Biggs]

nobody listen to yoshi! D:

[Biggs]

f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5

[Luke]

I say we go through each vault thoroughly and try and get the best suspects..one by one

Agreed. Also, we have only been compiling the list of confirmed roles. Role claims are just as important.

Each vault should have someone that was suspicious. In my vault (21), Rawne was probably the most suspicious. Followed by Tarkin.

Rawne role claimed after 1 vote against him. Since our log hasn't been posted yet I'll let him or another vault 21 member decide if they wants to tell everyone.

Manning claimed to be the neutral in vault 21

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander - Manning claimed neutral
Hidden NCR - Eddy (dead)
Hidden NCR - Bus driver
Citizen - Owen (dead)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

[Jabba]

Brostin was the most suspicious in our vault(37).

[Rawne]

I was going to go back and write down all of the roleclaims. There's so much to read through though...

Since I won't be able to get online for the majority of tomorrow I'm doing my best to contribute right now. As for myself, yes, I did roleclaim, but I'll keep it to myself for now. If anyone else from Vault 21 wants to say what I claimed in case it helps, then I won't object.

Luke, you forgot that Wedge was also a suspect, despite almost all of that coming from Owen.

[Yoshimitsu]

Just in case no one read our log, Francine claimed Dreamer, which is total bogus.

[Brostin]

I claimed Sheriff day 2 because I was up for a free lynch... Jabba is bullshitting.. really he was the most lynch happy with NO leads... also Ross from my vault falsely said that I claimed Lookout when Jabba started the lynch train... those are the 2 scummiest people in our Vault... I hope Nina and others form my vault can contest to this

[Jabba]

I claimed Sheriff day 2 because I was up for a free lynch... Jabba is bullshitting.. really he was the most lynch happy with NO leads... also Ross from my vault falsely said that I claimed Lookout when Jabba started the lynch train... those are the 2 scummiest people in our Vault... I hope Nina and others form my vault can contest to this

Gotta... Ask... Why... Do... You... Do... This...?

[Luke]

I was going to go back and write down all of the roleclaims. There's so much to read through though...

Since I won't be able to get online for the majority of tomorrow I'm doing my best to contribute right now. As for myself, yes, I did roleclaim, but I'll keep it to myself for now. If anyone else from Vault 21 wants to say what I claimed in case it helps, then I won't object.

Luke, you forgot that Wedge was also a suspect, despite almost all of that coming from Owen.

Very true. Wedge came very close to being lynched. I disregarded a lot of what Owen said because it was baseless and on the assumption that we had multiple killers.

Also our enchantress (edy) claimed to lure Tarkin and repel Wedge on the night he died. We only had one killing role in our vault.

[Jin]

Brostin was suspicious in our vault because:
1) skipped N1 action
2) Radio interview+sheriff claim+skipped reading Info page.
3) jestermagedon. We didn't (as i see it) lynch him because of it.

[Brostin]

always have... since I got a computer when I was 11 xD.... it helps me break up Ideas better... I find one period jus blends shit together...

Jabba you should post the full conversation between everyone instead of just what I said... and see who everyone decides is scummy... or are ya scared cause you know you screwed up?

[Jabba]

always have... since I got a computer when I was 11 xD.... it helps me break up Ideas better... I find one period jus blends shit together...

Jabba you should post the full conversation between everyone instead of just what I said... and see who everyone decides is scummy... or are ya scared cause you know you screwed up?

No. I don't need to do it because I know how I acted.

However, you can feel free to post my quotes up yourself.

[Brostin]

wow Jin you're an idiot too then... please jail and kill or vigil kill me so these retarded townies will learn... DONT FOLLOW MAFIA idiots... Jabba is obvious mafia it's ridiculous... plz kill me so we can kill this retard

-Vote Brostin

-Jail Brostin

-Shoot Brostin

I'm so tired of my entire derp vault following a mafia lynch train... jesus... did they put all the new people int he same vault...

once you see my role, KILL JABBA asap... and investigate Ross because he falsely said I claimed a role that I didn't during a lynch train on me... which no one in the vault seems to think is scummy for a retarded reason

[Luke]

wow Jin you're an idiot too then... please jail and kill or vigil kill me so these retarded townies will learn... DONT FOLLOW MAFIA idiots... Jabba is obvious mafia it's ridiculous... plz kill me so we can kill this retard

-Vote Brostin

-Jail Brostin

-Shoot Brostin

I'm so tired of my entire derp vault following a mafia lynch train... jesus... did they put all the new people int he same vault...

once you see my role, KILL JABBA asap... and investigate Ross because he falsely said I claimed a role that I didn't during a lynch train on me... which no one in the vault seems to think is scummy for a retarded reason

Martyring pretty hard here. You role claimed sheriff without checking anyone according to what I read. That is pretty good reason for people to be suspicious of you.

[Rawne]

I went back and looked through what's been posted so far (except the posts from Vault 37. Sorry guys, but I just can't read through that mess). There were less claims than I thought so far, but I'm guessing that's because almost everyone who has actually posted here has yet to reveal.

Francine claimed Dreamer.
Ackbar claimed Detective, but died, and his role was presumably cleaned.
Brostin claimed Sheriff.
Biggs claimed a Student that had not picked a mentor.
Manning claimed neutral but has yet to claim a role.

I probably missed something. Keep this list going as more people post.

[Brostin]

Can I suicide if I'm sure mafia is trying to frame me, or would that be gamthrowing?

[Wedge]

Welcome... to Vault 21.
RP
---

The NCR, Enclave, and Brotherhood of Steel are currently en route to the Vault-Tec installation.

Vault 21 will open in three days, on the third night.

Vault 21 will consist of three day cycles with two night cycles. All kills and night actions will behave as normal.

During each day, players may vote to lynch a single player as normal.

Due to the dire need for sustenance in the vault, when a player is lynched their name, role and alignment will not be shown in the graveyard. Instead the vault inhabitants will overpower the lynch target, kill him, and then strip the flesh from his bones.

This act of cannibalism will cause lynched players to show up as ??? in the graveyard. A lynched player may not have a last will, and an autopsy may not discover the true identity or role of the victim. Coroners, Morticians, Grave Robbers, Amnesiacs and other roles which interact with dead bodies will still behave as normal, just the identity and role of the victim are kept hidden.

---

Role List for Vault 21:

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander (Someone claimed)
Hidden NCR (Eddy- Enchantress)
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Owen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

---

Participants of Vault 21:

Brees
Eddy
Luke
Manning
Rawne
Owen
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Rawne was up on the scum list. I think Vick is scummy. Owen pressed hard on a lynch for me, many sheep followed. (L-1) He hadn't gotten a chance to use clue yet (Based off of the RP) NO ONE WAS LYNCHED. Luke was modkilled and replaced.

[Brostin]

I didnt check anyone n1... hence why I was put up for free lynch... n2 I checked Yoda cause I said from the beginning I thought he was scummy.. and he ended up dying and having his role cleand.... he came up Suspicious but I dont which sheriff I am... as soon as that happened Jabba exploited it and started a lynch train on me... like he planned it... and then Ross said I claimed a role I didnt to heat up the lynch train...

idgaf if you believe me or not... all I want if when I'm dead and you see my role you lynch Jabba because he obviously set this whole thing up... and was the only one to jump on it... and it's so fucking frustrating having people so friggin derp not to see that... it seems the only way for me to prove hes mafia is to die...

[Luke]

I didnt check anyone n1... hence why I was put up for free lynch... n2 I checked Yoda cause I said from the beginning I thought he was scummy.. and he ended up dying and having his role cleand.... he came up Suspicious but I dont which sheriff I am... as soon as that happened Jabba exploited it and started a lynch train on me... like he planned it... and then Ross said I claimed a role I didnt to heat up the lynch train...

idgaf if you believe me or not... all I want if when I'm dead and you see my role you lynch Jabba because he obviously set this whole thing up... and was the only one to jump on it... and it's so fucking frustrating having people so friggin derp not to see that... it seems the only way for me to prove hes mafia is to die...

Or you could stay alive and check someone. You could actually check Jabba instead of suiciding and being completely useless to the town, assuming you are what you claim.

[Brostin]

I'm just so friggin frustrated with my vault... and even if I checked Jabba I still don't know which sheriff I am... although I KNOW hes mafia... so I will check him anyways to determine which sheriff I am... I will probably die tonight for saying this... but if there is an investor or detective or any kind make sure you check Jabba tonight... I am 1000% he is mafia... the whole situation went to perfectly for him...

[Wedge]

Welcome... to Vault 21.
RP
---

The NCR, Enclave, and Brotherhood of Steel are currently en route to the Vault-Tec installation.

Vault 21 will open in three days, on the third night.

Vault 21 will consist of three day cycles with two night cycles. All kills and night actions will behave as normal.

During each day, players may vote to lynch a single player as normal.

Due to the dire need for sustenance in the vault, when a player is lynched their name, role and alignment will not be shown in the graveyard. Instead the vault inhabitants will overpower the lynch target, kill him, and then strip the flesh from his bones.

This act of cannibalism will cause lynched players to show up as ??? in the graveyard. A lynched player may not have a last will, and an autopsy may not discover the true identity or role of the victim. Coroners, Morticians, Grave Robbers, Amnesiacs and other roles which interact with dead bodies will still behave as normal, just the identity and role of the victim are kept hidden.

---

Role List for Vault 21:

Hidden Brotherhood of Steel
Hidden Wastelander (Someone claimed)
Hidden NCR (Eddy- Enchantress)
Hidden NCR
Citizen (Owen)
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

---

Participants of Vault 21:

Brees
Eddy
Luke
Manning
Rawne
Owen
Tarkin
Vick
Wedge

Rawne was up on the scum list. I think Vick is scummy. Owen pressed hard on a lynch for me, many sheep followed. (L-1) He hadn't gotten a chance to use clue yet (Based off of the RP) NO ONE WAS LYNCHED. Luke was modkilled and replaced.

Oh yeah. The enchantress repelled me n1 and lured tarken n1. (when the enchantress was killed)
Both owen and eddy were killed by strike force members. Eddy n1, Owen n2.

[Law]

Vault 5 member here. Brace yourself for the coming shit storm of incompetence from my vault.

Here is a brief summary (in chronological order) of my vault in case you don't want to read the transcripts.

Day 1:

-Within the first five posts of the day Brady proceeds to vote myself and Yoshimitsu before either of us have even posted. I question his reasoning for it, and instead of answering he just trolls.
-Francine asks for our lone confirmed citizen to claim (I agreed with this course of action).
-Brady starts getting voted because of his trolling.
-Yoshimitsu starts his "gambit" by mentioning that he thinks Hayley is scum.
-A bandwagon starts on Steve since he has not posted in the half day the thread has been open. He claims citizen shortly thereafter, and is not counter-claimed.
-People start to unvote Steve. Gaunt refuses to unvote Steve because he is upset with the way Steve is playing his role.
-I (Law) point out that Brady could very well be a jester or ghosts based on the fact that all he had done was troll.
-Hayley starts to get voted seemingly out of the blue. Yoshimitsu reveals that he dropped Hayley's name as a potential scum target as a "gambit", then votes the first person that jumped on her bandwagon (Francine).
-Brady and Hayley are sent to the roulette room. Since Brady had the most votes he started with the gun, yet he still won the roulette. The fact that he won the roulette means that he is not in fact jester. He could still be a ghost that didn't want to face the town, but he is definitely not jester.


Day 2:

-Hayley flips citizen. People start to doubt Steve's claim and vote him.
-Brady continues to troll.
-Gaunt and Francine buddy up and attempt to form a lynch train on Steve. Yoshimitsu votes Steve not because he doesn't believe his citizen claim, but because Steve didn't use his clue.
-Gaunt posts a very long analysis of the first day regarding Steve's potential roles.
-I (Law) explain why it is very improbable that Steve is lying, seeing as a gambit such as the one Steve would have had to make if he were scum would have been an insanely idiotic gambit to attempt.
-Francine immediately threatens me with a vote after I explain why their bandwagon is ridiculous. She and Gaunt both accuse me of being mafia with Steve.
-Steve states that if he were sent to the roulette with me he would use all six shots on himself and lose the roulette on purpose. Gaunt and Francine interpret this as scum buddying.
-Francine and Gaunt attempt to start a bandwagon on me (Law).
-Yoshimitsu votes Francine for buddying with Gaunt, yet still joins their bandwagon and votes Steve.
-Ackbar chips in to vote Brady (he posted hardly anything and generally formed his own opinions, so I believe that he was a hidden power role).
-Steve and Francine were sent to the roulette. Francine won.

Day 3:

-Gaunt shrugs off our second mislynch by saying that he "got carried away scum hunting".
-Despite the fact that I was the only one capable of realizing that it was incredibly improbable that Steve was lying, Ackbar, Gaunt, and Yoshimitsu all list me (Law) as one of the scummiest players in the vault.
-I (Law) list the three players I want in the vault. Yoshimitsu, Brady, and Francine.
-Yoshimitsu claims that he voted Steve not because he believed he was scum, but because he thought he was a useless citizen.
-I voted Yoshimitsu and Francine, seeing as they were the scummiest players in my eyes.
-Ackbar is killed in the melon roulette. There was absolutely no talk of lynching Ackbar, so he was definitely voted into the roulette game by scum.

Analysis:

Yoshimitsu is by far the scummiest player in our vault, and it all comes back to the Steve bandwagoning. Yoshimitsu was smart enough to form his own opinions, but still jumped onto one of the most retarded bandwagons I have ever encountered in forum mafia. The bandwagoning on Steve made absolutely no sense, and I did my best to derail it, but failed. I want to see Yoshimitsu lynched today. There is no doubt in my mind he is scum, especially with the way he has attempted to become some sort of town leader today. I will reveal my thoughts on the other players later, but for now I want to get Yoshimitsu lynched.

-vote Yoshimitsu

[Law]

Oh and in case I didn't state this clearly enough in my above post, my vault is filled with incompetent retards. The only semi-intelligent player is Yoshimitsu, but he is scum (and quite poor at playing it if I might add).

[Law]

-I (Law) list the three players I want in the roulette. Yoshimitsu, Brady, and Francine.


Typo fixed.

[Gaunt]

lol wut? How is yoshimitsu scummier than francine? Like really?

[Jabba]

lol wut? How is yoshimitsu scummier than francine? Like really?

From what I read, Francine seems to be scummier.

[Yoshimitsu]

Oh and in case I didn't state this clearly enough in my above post, my vault is filled with incompetent retards. The only semi-intelligent player is Yoshimitsu, but he is scum (and quite poor at playing it if I might add).

Okay :) Not only is it unneeded for you to say EXACTLY what you have already said in Day 3 chat, you did not need to summarize anything as I had already posted the entire days chats AND night chat.

Ackbar got voted in for Roulette, not Francine, not you, and not Gaunt who are all FAR more scummy than he was. Meaning, AT LEAST two people had to have voted for Ackbar to get in out of you, Francine, and Gaunt. I'm betting those two people are scum. AKA: Francine is a definite, and I'm betting since you are so keen on calling me scum, that your the other.

All of that being said, I know who voted for me: Francine, Law, and Brady.

Which means:

Francine: Yoshimitsu, Ackbar
Law: Yoshimitsu, Ackbar
Gaunt: Ackbar, Brady
Yoshimitsu: Francine, Brady
Brady: Yoshimitsu, Gaunt
Ackbar: Francine, Brady

This is most likely how the voting went.

I'm basing this on the fact that Ackbar actually was a Detective, like he claimed

[Law]

From what I read, Francine seems to be scummier.

It comes back to intelligence level. Francine is not very intelligent, and therefore the posts she makes and the actions she takes both come off as scummy. Yoshimitsu on the other hand posts intelligently, yet the actions he makes are extremely stupid. It is that disparity in intelligence that convinces me that he is scum.

[Yoshimitsu]

Yayap said that the one with the highest votes got to go first, but Luna said that I was chosen to go first randomly for Melon Roulette. This leads me to believe that 3 was the highest number of votes for a single person, and that everyone had 3 votes

[Biggs]

Ok well im out.
I will choose someone tonight, I'm bored as fuck atm, If there are any survivors out there, I feel you dawg. [since my current win condition is a survivor]
I probably won't reveal their identity or role, so dont go expectin it

[Yoshimitsu]

It comes back to intelligence level. Francine is not very intelligent, and therefore the posts she makes and the actions she takes both come off as scummy. Yoshimitsu on the other hand posts intelligently, yet the actions he makes are extremely stupid. It is that disparity in intelligence that convinces me that he is scum.

My reason for voting Steve, as I have said before, is he was not helping town at the time, thus I was unsure if he actually was a cit. Cits who have either AFK'd or refused to help town have been the downfall in previous FM's and I'll be damned if we lose because of them again

[Jabba]

Ok well im out.
I will choose someone tonight, I'm bored as fuck atm, If there are any survivors out there, I feel you dawg. [since my current win condition is a survivor]
I probably won't reveal their identity or role, so dont go expectin it

WINK.

[Monica]

Alright, So after attempting to read through every wall of text over the few first pages its starting to give me a headache, I do have to say this, It seems like we all had a pleasant time in the vault with all this accusing and such.

[Rawne]

So it looks like I won't be around for the next 20+ hours. I hope when I get back everyone has discussed each vault and at least planned some course of action.

[Beru]

I'm going to have to spend a good bit of time reading through the logs, but I will comment on Brostin. I'm not necessarily sure that he's scum, but he's playing extremely poorly.

[Rawne]

I do have one last thing to add: be wary of Citizen claims from now on, as every confirmed Citizen in the game is dead. There may be a few in the Hidden Towns, but we don't know for sure. Also, did any of the Citizens use their clue ability? I know Owen did not.

[Monica]

Beru, I do agree with you on this. If Brostin was an a actual town he wouldn't want to be committing suicide automatically when he gets accused of being a mafia. Seems a bit far fetched.

[Law]

Okay :) Not only is it unneeded for you to say EXACTLY what you have already said in Day 3 chat, you did not need to summarize anything as I had already posted the entire days chats AND night chat.

You can't defend yourself so instead you try to discredit my post. I will humor you this one time. I summarized it because I know not everyone will want to read all of the transcripts. I know I don't.


Ackbar got voted in for Roulette, not Francine, not you, and not Gaunt who are all FAR more scummy than he was. Meaning, AT LEAST two people had to have voted for Ackbar to get in out of you, Francine, and Gaunt. I'm betting those two people are scum. AKA: Francine is a definite, and I'm betting since you are so keen on calling me scum, that your the other.

All of that being said, I know who voted for me: Francine, Law, and Brady.

That's interesting that you don't list Brady as someone who could have potentially voted for Ackbar. As I stated previously, he was obviously ghost voted into the roulette. It is also interesting that you say you know Brady voted for you. Do you know something about Brady's votes that we don't?




Which means:

Francine: Yoshimitsu, Ackbar
Law: Yoshimitsu, Ackbar
Gaunt: Ackbar, Brady
Yoshimitsu: Francine, Brady
Brady: Yoshimitsu, Gaunt
Ackbar: Francine, Brady

This is most likely how the voting went.

I'm basing this on the fact that Ackbar actually was a Detective, like he claimed

I voted for you and Francine. Unfortunately there is no way I can prove that to you.


My reason for voting Steve, as I have said before, is he was not helping town at the time, thus I was unsure if he actually was a cit. Cits who have either AFK'd or refused to help town have been the downfall in previous FM's and I'll be damned if we lose because of them again

If you based your vote on who wasn't helping town then why did you not vote for Brady at that time when all he did was troll? Your actions and your words contradict each other. Stop trying to make up excuses for them.

[Beru]

Beru, I do agree with you on this. If Brostin was an a actual town he wouldn't want to be committing suicide automatically when he gets accused of being a mafia. Seems a bit far fetched.

Oh, if I didn't point it out, he's from my vault. If he continues to misdirect the day chat through his constant arguments with Jabba, I might finally decide to lynch him, since I was getting pretty tired of his antics in the vault.

But, I'll give him one more chance.

[Mkoll]

My reason for voting Steve, as I have said before, is he was not helping town at the time, thus I was unsure if he actually was a cit. Cits who have either AFK'd or refused to help town have been the downfall in previous FM's and I'll be damned if we lose because of them again
I totally see where Law is coming from in his assumption of your scuminess.
You seem like you know what you're doing (I.e using sound logic, communicating well, posting a lot to try and seem like you're doing something) but once in a while you say something fucking retarded which would benefit scum, like this quote.
If a citizen AFKing would make town lose, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU THEN VOTE TO LYNCH?
IF AFK = LOSE
THEN DEAD = LOSE YOU FUCKING DUMBASS.
If he's AFKing then he's not gonna respond to pressure. DERP. Let him get modkilled and have Luna replace his useless ass.
Yoshi = scummy as fuck, no denying it.

[Mkoll]

Also, Brostin is scummy as fuck trying to die and shit.
Can anyone from his vault tell me whether or not he could possibly be jester?
It seems like really bad newbie jester WIFOM.
Or he's WIFOMing really bad WIFOM. Either way, he seems retarded.

[Yoshimitsu]

You can't defend yourself so instead you try to discredit my post. I will humor you this one time. I summarized it because I know not everyone will want to read all of the transcripts. I know I don't.



That's interesting that you don't list Brady as someone who could have potentially voted for Ackbar. As I stated previously, he was obviously ghost voted into the roulette. It is also interesting that you say you know Brady voted for you. Do you know something about Brady's votes that we don't?


You didn't read Melon Roulette (Post #14)

[Yoshimitsu]

I totally see where Law is coming from in his assumption of your scuminess.
You seem like you know what you're doing (I.e using sound logic, communicating well, posting a lot to try and seem like you're doing something) but once in a while you say something fucking retarded which would benefit scum, like this quote.
If a citizen AFKing would make town lose, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU THEN VOTE TO LYNCH?
IF AFK = LOSE
THEN DEAD = LOSE YOU FUCKING DUMBASS.
If he's AFKing then he's not gonna respond to pressure. DERP. Let him get modkilled and have Luna replace his useless ass.
Yoshi = scummy as fuck, no denying it.

FM5: Town wasted three lynches voting off town members because of lurking citizens/citizens that felt like not helping the town

[Mkoll]

You didn't read Melon Roulette (Post #14)
Nobody's gonna read your walls of text and you know that.
You posted the walls knowing no one would read through all of them & then bitch at Law for shortening them up because he's fucking your plan up.

GG scum.

[Law]

You didn't read Melon Roulette (Post #14)

So Brady told you who he voted. I also told you who I voted. Yet you somehow know I am lying and Brady is telling the truth.

Can we please lynch this guy already?

[Mkoll]

FM5: Town wasted three lynches voting off town members because of lurking citizens/citizens that felt like not helping the town
FMXIII: Stop fucking metagaming you dumbass.

[Mkoll]

FM5: Town wasted three lynches voting off town members because of lurking citizens/citizens that felt like not helping the town
That shit doesn't even make sense.
So you voted him while thinking he's citizen because you've seen town waste lynches on citizen before?
LOLWUT.

[Yoshimitsu]

Nobody's gonna read your walls of text and you know that.
You posted the walls knowing no one would read through all of them & then bitch at Law for shortening them up because he's fucking your plan up.

GG scum.

What?

Isn't this the exact opposite of what any town member should say?

Any and all town members should read everything and base their opinion on it. Not reading is what is actually scummy.

To summarize for you Law: In Melon Roulette, Brady said he voted for me and Gaunt. Since I think he's a neutral (Not evil) I have no reason to think what he told me was a lie. You, however have been trying to nitpick every single thing I say and call me scum at any opportunity ever since Steve's lynch.

[Yoshimitsu]

So Brady told you who he voted. I also told you who I voted. Yet you somehow know I am lying and Brady is telling the truth.

Can we please lynch this guy already?

Know? No. This is what I THINK. What my opinion is. You're tunnel visioning me, while ignoring how almost every from our vault thinks Francine is scum, defending her in fact, by saying she's stupid, not as smart as me. How do YOU know that she's stupid? How do you KNOW that she's not acting?

Please, go on about how I'm scummy, you are so convincing.

[Brady]

captain assrapture reporting in

fuck im transforming

final form

my third eye is awakening

francine is moofia

law is neutral

gaunt is mafia

my work ehre is done fagot

[Mkoll]

What?

Isn't this the exact opposite of what any town member should say?

Any and all town members should read everything and base their opinion on it. Not reading is what is actually scummy.

To summarize for you Law: In Melon Roulette, Brady said he voted for me and Gaunt. Since I think he's a neutral (Not evil) I have no reason to think what he told me was a lie. You, however have been trying to nitpick every single thing I say and call me scum at any opportunity ever since Steve's lynch.

LOL Yep, you're right, I'm automatically scum because I find you suspicious.
Fuckhole.

There's a difference between reading a lot of information and spending 20 hours going through 6 vaults worth of logs.
The exact chat logs verbatim are almost completely useless to someone who doesn't have the 20 hours to spend going through them. Your shortened version of events are much more useful.

[Yoshimitsu]

LOL Yep, you're right, I'm automatically scum because I find you suspicious.
Fuckhole.

There's a difference between reading a lot of information and spending 20 hours going through 6 vaults worth of logs.
The exact chat logs verbatim are almost completely useless to someone who doesn't have the 20 hours to spend going through them. Your shortened version of events are much more useful.

Day 1:
-Brady trolls
-I started a random lynch train on Hayley to reveal scum
-Francine joined the lynch and started another one on Steve(AFK) as well
-Gaunt joins both lynches
-Steve shows up, claims cit, and says he'll use his clue during the night
-Train on Steve disappears
-I reveal my thought process and vote Francine (too late, however, and Hayley died)

Day 2:
-Brady continues to troll
-I bring back the train on Francine, with many people joining
-Steve reveals he didn't use his clue
-Many people (not just me) voted Steve. (Me personally, because he didn't do the one thing that would have given his cit claim credibility to me)
-Law defends Steve
-Steve dies.

Day 3:
-Brady continues to troll
-Law starts a train on me
-Francine jumps in
-I try to continue my train on Francine (which fails)

Melon Roulette:
-Me, Ackbar and Brady are in the roulette
-I get confused at how Francine was not voted in, realizing that along with her, Law or Gaunt must be scum (or both)
-Brady goes balls-deep with the melons and wins
-Ackbar gets unlucky and dies.

Except for Melon Roulette, you know all of that already, however

[Yoshimitsu]

LOL Yep, you're right, I'm automatically scum because I find you suspicious.
Fuckhole.

There's a difference between reading a lot of information and spending 20 hours going through 6 vaults worth of logs.
The exact chat logs verbatim are almost completely useless to someone who doesn't have the 20 hours to spend going through them. Your shortened version of events are much more useful.

Also, other people SOMEHOW manages to read all of my 5 long posts. So I fail to see how it is not useful for scumhunting if EVERYONE read them

[Law]

To summarize for you Law: In Melon Roulette, Brady said he voted for me and Gaunt. Since I think he's a neutral (Not evil) I have no reason to think what he told me was a lie. You, however have been trying to nitpick every single thing I say and call me scum at any opportunity ever since Steve's lynch.

Ok, lets get this straight. I have been calling you scum. You don't believe what I say because I have been calling you scum. Because you don't believe me you don't think I am telling the truth about voting Francine.

Why then, do you believe me when I say I voted you?

Are you ever going to stop contradicting yourself?

[Jabba]

I think It's rather obvious that Francine and Gaunt are actually mafia.
Law, however, seems neutralish(possible jester....).

Brady may be trolling, but I think you guys should listen to him more. He may be a troll, but I don't think he's lying about his information, however he got it.

[Mkoll]

Also, other people SOMEHOW manages to read all of my 5 long posts. So I fail to see how it is not useful for scumhunting if EVERYONE read them
You can't tell me I'm scummy because I'm not gonna read 20 hours worth of material.
That's retarded AND scummy of you.

[Mkoll]

I think It's rather obvious that Francine and Gaunt are actually mafia.
Law, however, seems neutralish(possible jester....).

Brady may be trolling, but I think you guys should listen to him more. He may be a troll, but I don't think he's lying about his information, however he got it.
Explain yourself pls.

[Law]

Know? No. This is what I THINK. What my opinion is. You're tunnel visioning me, while ignoring how almost every from our vault thinks Francine is scum, defending her in fact, by saying she's stupid, not as smart as me. How do YOU know that she's stupid? How do you KNOW that she's not acting?

Please, go on about how I'm scummy, you are so convincing.

Here you are again trying to change the topic. I will again humor you with a response.

I have mentioned many times I find Francine scummy, and she was the person I found scummiest until halfway through day three when you became my main scum target (I even posted this).

We are no longer in our vault, so we can only have on lynch target at a time. Why would I try to use that single lynch on Francine when you are by far the scummiest person in my eyes?

[Yoshimitsu]

Ok, lets get this straight. I have been calling you scum. You don't believe what I say because I have been calling you scum. Because you don't believe me you don't think I am telling the truth about voting Francine.

Why then, do you believe me when I say I voted you?

Are you ever going to stop contradicting yourself?

Simple: Your FOS is me. There would be no purpose lying about voting me since you obviously did, considering you are trying to get me lynched.

Everyone else finds Francine scummy, so you lied about voting her to make it seem like you are on the town's side.

[Jabba]

Explain yourself pls.

WIFOM.

There were tons of trolls that signed up for FM XIII, no?

Perhaps a troll got an investigative role, such as Sheriff, Lookout, Detective, Investigator. In Brady's case, most likely investigator.

So, he's gonna troll, mainly because he's a fucking douchebag that can't play the game properly.... OR so it seems.

So, the troll finds the mafia and ends up telling us in a very troll fashion, and of course, we tend to blow that off as trolling, when in fact, he very well may be correct.

I do not think he is jester due to him being TOO obvious and jesters don't do that.

Summary:

Brady says Gaunt and Francine are mafia. Then says he has done his job.

Now, he isn't game throwing now that he has done his 'job'.

I think Brady just gave us 2 of whatever mafia, boys. I think we should look into it. Both seem fairly scummy to me, especially Francine,

[Yoshimitsu]

It comes back to intelligence level. Francine is not very intelligent, and therefore the posts she makes and the actions she takes both come off as scummy. Yoshimitsu on the other hand posts intelligently, yet the actions he makes are extremely stupid. It is that disparity in intelligence that convinces me that he is scum.

Defense of Francine.


Here you are again trying to change the topic. I will again humor you with a response.

I have mentioned many times I find Francine scummy, and she was the person I found scummiest until halfway through day three when you became my main scum target (I even posted this).

We are no longer in our vault, so we can only have on lynch target at a time. Why would I try to use that single lynch on Francine when you are by far the scummiest person in my eyes?

Look who's making excuses now

[Yoshimitsu]

WIFOM.

There were tons of trolls that signed up for FM XIII, no?

Perhaps a troll got an investigative role, such as Sheriff, Lookout, Detective, Investigator. In Brady's case, most likely investigator.

So, he's gonna troll, mainly because he's a fucking douchebag that can't play the game properly.... OR so it seems.

So, the troll finds the mafia and ends up telling us in a very troll fashion, and of course, we tend to blow that off as trolling, when in fact, he very well may be correct.

I do not think he is jester due to him being TOO obvious and jesters don't do that.

Summary:

Brady says Gaunt and Francine are mafia. Then says he has done his job.

Now, he isn't game throwing now that he has done his 'job'.

I think Brady just gave us 2 of whatever mafia, boys. I think we should look into it. Both seem fairly scummy to me, especially Francine,

There is no investigator

[Law]

Defense of Francine.



Look who's making excuses now


That is my justification of why I am FOSing you over Francine. No excuses. No changing the topic. I can actually defend myself, whereas you cannot.

[Mkoll]

Please, go on about how I'm scummy, you are so convincing.
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[Jabba]

There is no investigator

Wasn't the point.

[Yoshimitsu]

That is my justification of why I am FOSing you over Francine. No excuses. No changing the topic. I can actually defend myself, whereas you cannot.

You aren't defending yourself. You are lying about what you previously said. Throughout the entirety of Day 2, you were very hesitant to join the Francine lynch. Now, you are saying that you always found Francine scummy. At least I haven't lied.

[Yoshimitsu]

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okay, this made me laugh

[Mkoll]

WIFOM.

There were tons of trolls that signed up for FM XIII, no?

Perhaps a troll got an investigative role, such as Sheriff, Lookout, Detective, Investigator. In Brady's case, most likely investigator.

So, he's gonna troll, mainly because he's a fucking douchebag that can't play the game properly.... OR so it seems.

So, the troll finds the mafia and ends up telling us in a very troll fashion, and of course, we tend to blow that off as trolling, when in fact, he very well may be correct.

I do not think he is jester due to him being TOO obvious and jesters don't do that.

Summary:

Brady says Gaunt and Francine are mafia. Then says he has done his job.

Now, he isn't game throwing now that he has done his 'job'.

I think Brady just gave us 2 of whatever mafia, boys. I think we should look into it. Both seem fairly scummy to me, especially Francine,
There we go. That's what I was looking for.

I think we can end the debate between Law and Yoshi if we all just
-vote Francine

[Law]

You aren't defending yourself. You are lying about what you previously said. Throughout the entirety of Day 2, you were very hesitant to join the Francine lynch. Now, you are saying that you always found Francine scummy. At least I haven't lied.



-vote Francine

My second vote will be cast after Yoshimitsu and Ackbar answer my questions, although I assume they are going to be interviewed tonight.

Now who is lying?

[Yoshimitsu]

Now who is lying?



"Law: *quote* Originally Posted by Gaunt
Hello Law, since you were absent for most of the day I would like some insight from you into the day's events.

What do you think of Hayley?
What do you think of Me? *end quote*

I'm not suspicious of Hayley.

I am suspicious of you.


Now answer me a question please. Why do you want to vote Steve into the roulette when the only confirmed role in our entire vault is the role he just claimed?

I also completely understand why Francine wanted to find the citizen in our vault, and if she hadn't asked for the citizen to claim I would have. Not only does having the citizen claim early prevent scum from counter claiming, it also provides us with a player that we can put into the roulette if we have no clear second lynch target."

This was Day 1. My mistake

[Brady]

I think It's rather obvious that Francine and Gaunt are actually mafia.
Law, however, seems neutralish(possible jester....).

Brady may be trolling, but I think you guys should listen to him more. He may be a troll, but I don't think he's lying about his information, however he got it.

hey babe u seem pretty slick

but im not invest

im A Fuckin Black Mage

[Mkoll]

hey babe u seem pretty slick

but im not invest

im A Fuckin Black Asshole
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[Jabba]

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It actually is.

Best way for an investigative role to act, tbh.

[Mkoll]

It actually is.

Best way for an investigative role to act, tbh.
Maybe Wonka was WIFOMing?

[Jabba]

Maybe Wonka was WIFOMing?

FUCK YES.

[Law]

This was Day 1. My mistake

This is just fucking hilarious. You are attempting to discredit me by nitpicking the exact time frame at which I became suspicious of Francine, and you now have brought that time frame all the way back to some time after the first half of Day 1, to a post where I simply agreed with something Francine did. I did not mention anything about whether or not I was suspicious of her, I simply mentioned I agreed with the motion of revealing the citizen. This post was also made before Francine did anything overly suspicious, and well before you revealed your "gambit".

You fail again. Try coming up with a better defense.

[Law]

How are you people not seeing how badly Yoshimitsu is tripping over his words? I sincerely thought the general intelligence level of players outside my vault would increase, but perhaps I was wrong.

[Brees]

Hi guys, wow there is a lot of reading better catch up on it.

[Mkoll]

How are you people not seeing how badly Yoshimitsu is tripping over his words? I sincerely thought the general intelligence level of players outside my vault would increase, but perhaps I was wrong.
I see it, breh. I already called him scummy as fuck.
I'm sure plenty of others see it, too, but have their reasons for not calling him on his shit. We're not gonna start a train on him just because he's lying about something. We all just take note on it and remember that he can't be trusted.
He might not be the best lynch for today.
Either that or there's still the possibility that he's tripping because we pressured him so much so quickly lol
I just wanted to see what he'd do with more than one person on his ass at the same time. Apparently lying (badly) is what happened.

[Mkoll]

FUCK YES.
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[Law]

You aren't defending yourself. You are lying about what you previously said. Throughout the entirety of Day 2, you were very hesitant to join the Francine lynch. Now, you are saying that you always found Francine scummy. At least I haven't lied.


This was Day 1. My mistake


Ah yes, things happened the exact way I wanted them too. I purposely put up Hayley's name (and I question I was sure no one would answer (which I was also right about)) to try and weed out scum voters looking for a train to start. I didn't expect Steve to vote Hayley and that boggles me, because I really do think he is a citizen, for now.

But now, I'm setting my sights onto Gaunt and Francine, the two people who jumped on Hayley as soon as I mentioned her name.

If only one of them were scum, then I'd put my money of Francine for a variety of reasons.

1. She appears to be helpful to the town by posting tallies, and defending people who, I think, are obviously town.

2. She isn't actually helpful to anyone, she hasn't actually called anyone out, and she hasn't started her own line of suspicion yet.

3. She was searching for the citizen. While this seems to be pro-town due to her explanation, it is far from. If she find the citizen, then she knows who each and every non-citizen is.

4. Quick jump. She jumped on the Hayley train right after with no explanation whatsoever for her vote besides saying that her primary suspicions are on Hayley.

thus -vote Francine


Now the reason I don't think Gaunt is scum is for one very simple reason. He started the train on Hayley, which is not a safe lynch whatsoever, unlike the Steve lynch that Francine started before he showed up. Even I would have joined that lynch since not contributing is even worse than be scum (hence why I keep my vote on Brady).

I don't think scum has the balls to start a risky lynch that could cause people to question their motives on Day 1.


Nice gambit Yoshimitsu as Ackbar would say

(insert Admiral Ackbar image)


I thought something was fishy with your analysis of Hayley but I came to my own conclusions.

That being said Francine doesn't strike me as scum, though I agree she didn't properly explain why we should get a citizen claim. I think she is just holding back in a similar way to how you were holding back.


Well folks looks like y'all had a blast today with your fun 'n games! Roxy is here to wish you a good night with a very special tune that's close to my heart.

First though, I see on my security feed that you crazy fellers are starting another game of Russian Roulette! Is that Hayley and Brady? I guess it is, good luck guys!

This was especially funny. Calling me out for not joining the Francine "lynch" (really was just you voting her) when you started it 3 posts before the day ended.

Fail defense. Lynch this scum already.

[Phoebe]

DID SOMEBODY
SAY
TROLL? 8)

[Mkoll]

DID SOMEBODY
SAY
TROLL? 8)
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[Phoebe]

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u think ur a troll? cuz theres gonna be a whole new world of pain unleashed 8)

[Mkoll]

u think ur a troll? cuz theres gonna be a whole new world of pain unleased 8)
Fix'd

[Monica]

u think ur a troll? cuz theres gonna be a whole new world of pain unleashed 8)

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[Mkoll]

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<4

[Brostin]

hmmm anyone find it funny.. that Mkoll has jumped on board with Jabba and Jabba has jumped on board with Mkoll... when Jabba is confirmed mafia... I think lookin back at these posts and who these guys all seem to put the blame on and take the blame off of... you can pretty much see the mafia come together...

Mkoll-Hidden Enclave
Jabba-Hidden Enclave
Law-Hidden Enclave

they are all good at pushing lynches with no feesable information

also to be devils advocate

Francine-Brotherhood
Yoshi-Brotherhood
Brady-Brotherhood

but really the way that Mkoll attacks me for being "scummy" to bolster Jabba's accusation... and then Jabba bolsters Mkoll's accusation... they both seem to have the same interests in mind, and never draw attention to each other... even though everyone is a suspect at this moment in time...

I don't know about the brotherhood thing cause they don't seem AS scummy.. but they definitely have each others backs... in some small sense of the word... maybe cult, puppets, masons?... all I know is Jabba is confirmed mafia.. so Mkoll start accuse Jabba now so you don't blow your cover ;)

[Monica]

hmmm anyone find it funny.. that Mkoll has jumped on board with Jabba and Jabba has jumped on board with Mkoll... when Jabba is confirmed mafia... I think lookin back at these posts and who these guys all seem to put the blame on and take the blame off of... you can pretty much see the mafia come together...

Mkoll-Hidden Enclave
Jabba-Hidden Enclave
Law-Hidden Enclave

they are all good at pushing lynches with no feesable information

also to be devils advocate

Francine-Brotherhood
Yoshi-Brotherhood
Brady-Brotherhood

but really the way that Mkoll attacks me for being "scummy" to bolster Jabba's accusation... and then Jabba bolsters Mkoll's accusation... they both seem to have the same interests in mind, and never draw attention to each other... even though everyone is a suspect at this moment in time...

I don't know about the brotherhood thing cause they don't seem AS scummy.. but they definitely have each others backs... in some small sense of the word... maybe cult, puppets, masons?... all I know is Jabba is confirmed mafia.. so Mkoll start accuse Jabba now so you don't blow your cover ;)

I would just like to state this from Vault 103.
Our vault consisted of 2 Brotherhood members, Both of which were lynched during the day, Mkoll was part of my vault. So unless their happened to be 3 mafia in our vault, We should be clean from mafia. So i am going to state this.
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[Boba]

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[Mkoll]

hmmm anyone find it funny.. that Mkoll has jumped on board with Jabba and Jabba has jumped on board with Mkoll... when Jabba is confirmed mafia... I think lookin back at these posts and who these guys all seem to put the blame on and take the blame off of... you can pretty much see the mafia come together...

Mkoll-Hidden Enclave
Jabba-Hidden Enclave
Law-Hidden Enclave

they are all good at pushing lynches with no feesable information

also to be devils advocate

Francine-Brotherhood
Yoshi-Brotherhood
Brady-Brotherhood

but really the way that Mkoll attacks me for being "scummy" to bolster Jabba's accusation... and then Jabba bolsters Mkoll's accusation... they both seem to have the same interests in mind, and never draw attention to each other... even though everyone is a suspect at this moment in time...

I don't know about the brotherhood thing cause they don't seem AS scummy.. but they definitely have each others backs... in some small sense of the word... maybe cult, puppets, masons?... all I know is Jabba is confirmed mafia.. so Mkoll start accuse Jabba now so you don't blow your cover ;)
Yep, I'm automatically scummy for thinking you're scummy.
You and Yoshi are in the same boat. Maybe you and him are mafia together.
And buttfucked while you were in the vault?

[Mkoll]

And when the FUCK have I pushed a lynch with no feasible information?
Not once, guaranteed. I never pushed your lynch, child. I simply said you were scummy and/or retarded.
Now STFU and sit down.

[Jabba]

How am I confirmed mafia?

[Jabba]

R WE DEALING WIFF A PRO JESTER

[Leia]

I would just like to state this from Vault 103.
Our vault consisted of 2 Brotherhood members, Both of which were lynched during the day, Mkoll was part of my vault. So unless their happened to be 3 mafia in our vault, We should be clean from mafia. So i am going to state this.
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Leia now is awake! Monica did you read my post earlier how I think Larkin is a third Brotherhood of steel member (drug dealer). Please let me know what you think! After sorting through the feedback claims and thinking about how Larkin flip flopped all over the Stan lynch, I believe Larkin is the third orange mafia in our vault. There was both a role block and a oj mafia kill on Night 2 so there has to be one more mafia in our vault. Mkoll is completely cleared of being orange mafia because he was targeted by the consort N1.

To the student claimer: I suggest you pick somebody from Vault 103 to be your mentor (Not Larkin because he is orange mafia and the orange mafia at least in our vault were major derps)

Mkoll, Monica, Leia, Tebow all would be good people to pick who have proven to be at least competent at finding and lynching the scum.

I must read through the Francine and Yoshimitsu and Law stuff, but I wanted to ask Mkoll and Monica what they think about Larkin being a third orange mafia in our vault.

[Monica]

Leia now is awake! Monica did you read my post earlier how I think Larkin is a third Brotherhood of steel member (drug dealer). Please let me know what you think! After sorting through the feedback claims and thinking about how Larkin flip flopped all over the Stan lynch, I believe Larkin is the third orange mafia in our vault. There was both a role block and a oj mafia kill on Night 2 so there has to be one more mafia in our vault. Mkoll is completely cleared of being orange mafia because he was targeted by the consort N1.

To the student claimer: I suggest you pick somebody from Vault 103 to be your mentor (Not Larkin because he is orange mafia and the orange mafia at least in our vault were major derps)

Mkoll, Monica, Leia, Tebow all would be good people to pick who have proven to be at least competent at finding and lynching the scum.

I must read through the Francine and Yoshimitsu and Law stuff, but I wanted to ask Mkoll and Monica what they think about Larkin being a third orange mafia in our vault.

The thing is about that, At the end of day 3, It said that everyone received atleast 1 feedback message a night like we were drugged. So are you sure that you were actually role blocked? and not drugged from the vault?

[Mkoll]

The thing is about that, At the end of day 3, It said that everyone received atleast 1 feedback message a night like we were drugged. So are you sure that you were actually role blocked? and not drugged from the vault?
I was roleblocked n1, yes.
I got a roleblock message and an "armour" message N1. King? then claimed to have targeted me with a roleblock N1, so the "armour" (sorry, I really think British English is awesome) is fake.

[Monica]

I was roleblocked n1, yes.
I got a roleblock message and an "armour" message N1. King? then claimed to have targeted me with a roleblock N1, so the "armour" (sorry, I really think British English is awesome) is fake.
Right, So I'm assuming the Rb was from king, Since we know he's a consort now, But what im wondering if Leia's RB was real, Or if it was a vault message. If it was an actual RB, Then we managed to take out 2 mafia in 2 days, Shouldn't be hard to find the last one from our vault.

[Phoebe]

u guise r lucky, our vault had the least fun. only 1 death, and 1 fake scum dead (dumb puppet)

[Yoshimitsu]

u guise r lucky, our vault had the least fun. only 1 death, and 1 fake scum dead (dumb puppet)

The people I personally wanted gone during Day 1 and 2 ended up winning the Roulette (Brady and then Francine) so I somewhat know what your coming

[Brostin]

hmmm if this is true Mkoll I am sorry... but you do sound very scummy voting with the CONFIRMED mafia member in our vault... and me and yoshi weren't in the same vault, so herp derp on that one... Not one evil role died from our vault that we know of.. although Yoda came up suspicious to me... so we are guarenteed atleast 1 of us is mafia... I'm 10000% sure its Jabba, he is either the worst most obvious mafia in the world... or the most derpest townie... and considering he says he's played for awhile I'm going to say he is mafia... I really hope you townies don't believe what kind of derp lies that he might spill and false claims he might make because I'm probably dead tonight...

please launch a full investigation into him... I'm tellin you right now townies HE IS MAFIA... my proof


Day 1

Starts talking about how important of a role he is, and that he really needs to be technician that nigth so he doesn't die.

Day 2

Technician does not come forward, there is a mafia kill without a cleaning. Jabba and Jin both try and start a lynch train on me.

Day 3

Ross claims technician, there is a mafia kill with a cleaning. Ross also falsely says that I claim a role that I didn't(even Jabba seen that but didn't question it), after Jabba already started another lynch train on me the next day


Let me explain my actions...

Day 1

Didn't post much because I didn't understand we were all in seperate vaults. So I kinda stood back in the shadows and scum hunted, but not alot of people were posting so I left it for a bit. Did not get my night action in, in time, got interviewed.

Day 2

I was told by FM GameMaster to post my interview and plead for my life. Well I'm not one for begging so I more went on a rant and said this community sucks for Free-lynching me because I didn't understand the vault mechanics and that not everyone was posting in the same forum again.(althought I did post twice in Day 1) So I plead my case and call out my role, because at this point no one understands the mechanics of the free-lynch and I as well as others thought it would permantly get rid of me. So I claimed my role and told people how useless it really is early game, then told Doctor and Lookout to be on me tonight because I would probably die. My night action was to invest Yoda, he came up suspicious.

Day 3

Yoda dies and cleaned, Jabba jumps on the fact that I have been calling Yoda scummy from the beginning and asks why I didnt die last night... I told him that probably because I told doctors and lookout to be on me... he still proceeds to start a lynch train on me even when others are telling him to calm down, he just had crazy tunnel vision on me like his "plan" was supposed to work. I call out Jabba on this, no one was lynched and hence we are here now fighting over this...

I have said it once I will say it a hundred times... if I have to die for you guys to see that Jabba is mafia trying to set me up I will for the better of the town... my guess on his accomplise is Jin, because he was never role-blocked and yet he followed the same accusations that Jabba was giving out... Russ, even though he was scummy and claimed that I claimed a role I didn't... was technician n2 so it is impossible for him to be a mafia role, or atleast Jabba's partner...

If you guys have any better suggestions on how to go about getting the truth here I'm all ears... but all these idiots call me jester, and yell WIFOM... its like selling dictionaries at a down-syndrome party... the only thing I can do to get anyones attention is just die... I dont want to for the betterment of the town, but no one friggin listens to me...

[Jabba]

but you do sound very scummy voting with the CONFIRMED mafia member in our vault...

Explain.

[Jabba]

hmmm if this is true Mkoll I am sorry... but you do sound very scummy voting with the CONFIRMED mafia member in our vault... and me and yoshi weren't in the same vault, so herp derp on that one... Not one evil role died from our vault that we know of.. although Yoda came up suspicious to me... so we are guarenteed atleast 1 of us is mafia... I'm 10000% sure its Jabba, he is either the worst most obvious mafia in the world... or the most derpest townie... and considering he says he's played for awhile I'm going to say he is mafia... I really hope you townies don't believe what kind of derp lies that he might spill and false claims he might make because I'm probably dead tonight...

please launch a full investigation into him... I'm tellin you right now townies HE IS MAFIA... my proof


Day 1

Starts talking about how important of a role he is, and that he really needs to be technician that nigth so he doesn't die.

Day 2

Technician does not come forward, there is a mafia kill without a cleaning. Jabba and Jin both try and start a lynch train on me.

Day 3

Ross claims technician, there is a mafia kill with a cleaning. Ross also falsely says that I claim a role that I didn't(even Jabba seen that but didn't question it), after Jabba already started another lynch train on me the next day


Let me explain my actions...

Day 1

Didn't post much because I didn't understand we were all in seperate vaults. So I kinda stood back in the shadows and scum hunted, but not alot of people were posting so I left it for a bit. Did not get my night action in, in time, got interviewed.

Day 2

I was told by FM GameMaster to post my interview and plead for my life. Well I'm not one for begging so I more went on a rant and said this community sucks for Free-lynching me because I didn't understand the vault mechanics and that not everyone was posting in the same forum again.(althought I did post twice in Day 1) So I plead my case and call out my role, because at this point no one understands the mechanics of the free-lynch and I as well as others thought it would permantly get rid of me. So I claimed my role and told people how useless it really is early game, then told Doctor and Lookout to be on me tonight because I would probably die. My night action was to invest Yoda, he came up suspicious.

Day 3

Yoda dies and cleaned, Jabba jumps on the fact that I have been calling Yoda scummy from the beginning and asks why I didnt die last night... I told him that probably because I told doctors and lookout to be on me... he still proceeds to start a lynch train on me even when others are telling him to calm down, he just had crazy tunnel vision on me like his "plan" was supposed to work. I call out Jabba on this, no one was lynched and hence we are here now fighting over this...

I have said it once I will say it a hundred times... if I have to die for you guys to see that Jabba is mafia trying to set me up I will for the better of the town... my guess on his accomplise is Jin, because he was never role-blocked and yet he followed the same accusations that Jabba was giving out... Russ, even though he was scummy and claimed that I claimed a role I didn't... was technician n2 so it is impossible for him to be a mafia role, or atleast Jabba's partner...

If you guys have any better suggestions on how to go about getting the truth here I'm all ears... but all these idiots call me jester, and yell WIFOM... its like selling dictionaries at a down-syndrome party... the only thing I can do to get anyones attention is just die... I dont want to for the betterment of the town, but no one friggin listens to me...

I meant to say this earlier, but hey JSaint.

[Phoebe]

I meant to say this earlier, but hey JSaint.

Uh oh. FM Game Master is going to modkill you bro!

[Jabba]

Uh oh. FM Game Master is going to modkill you bro!

WIFOM.

[Jabba]

Uh oh. FM Game Master is going to modkill you bro!

WINK WINK WINK.

[Jabba]

Uh oh. FM Game Master is going to modkill you bro!

Is that really something you could get modkilled over? If so, I had no clue and I apologize. If it means anything, I just thought of the only guy who lives in Asia.

[Brostin]

actually not JSaint, although he's on my friends list ;)

I'm not supposed to say who I am, but I left a clue for ya in my breakdown on day 2 of who I think is scum... If you didn't catch it then you haven't played many FM's with me xD

But stop distracting from the post... everyone read what I wrote and use your logic... you will see he is GUARENTEED mafia... his posting, and lynch pushing on no evidence, his tunnel vision on one target... I don't know how you guys could see him as anything less then mafia... especially considering the circumstances

[Phoebe]

Yoda (???): Went missing, he did. [Night 2]

So I was going to read all the long posts now... And this... LOL

[Jabba]

actually not JSaint, although he's on my friends list ;)

I'm not supposed to say who I am, but I left a clue for ya in my breakdown on day 2 of who I think is scum... If you didn't catch it then you haven't played many FM's with me xD

But stop distracting from the post... everyone read what I wrote and use your logic... you will see he is GUARENTEED mafia... his posting, and lynch pushing on no evidence, his tunnel vision on one target... I don't know how you guys could see him as anything less then mafia... especially considering the circumstances

Actually, Brostin, believe it or not, I rather lynch Francine or Guant before you.

[Mkoll]

hmmm if this is true Mkoll I am sorry... but you do sound very scummy voting with the CONFIRMED mafia member in our vault... and me and yoshi weren't in the same vault, so herp derp on that one... Not one evil role died from our vault that we know of.. although Yoda came up suspicious to me... so we are guarenteed atleast 1 of us is mafia... I'm 10000% sure its Jabba, he is either the worst most obvious mafia in the world... or the most derpest townie... and considering he says he's played for awhile I'm going to say he is mafia... I really hope you townies don't believe what kind of derp lies that he might spill and false claims he might make because I'm probably dead tonight...

please launch a full investigation into him... I'm tellin you right now townies HE IS MAFIA... my proof



OK, so, here's the deal:
This isn't sc2maf. This game is much slower and the people who play tend to be of a much higher cognitive caliber.
You spamming "I'M INVEST LYNCH SUCH AND SUCH" isn't gonna get a train on them immediately. The mind games played in FM are such that no one believes anyone without concrete evidence.
Even so, just because you got a suspicious result on one person one night doesn't concretely say that they're suspicious. There are a million other possible instances in which you getting a susp. result can be inaccurate & we have to play with the details and consider everything.

You're already out in the open about everything (role & results). Keep it that way for now. Tell us what result you get tonight.
Having said all that, I still don't really believe your claim. When I played my first FM not only did I read every single role card and every single mechanic and every single rule, but I browsed through a few older FMs to get a feel for the game and how I wanted to play it. Given, I wasn't particularly effective, but I was more effective than many other newbies.
I feel like any self-respecting newbie would have read through everything as I did.
I feel like your newbie sheriff/invest/whatever claim is crap.
IF (big if) you actually are what you claim, then town needs you ALIVE so you can get more INVESTIGATION RESULTS. We're listening to you and taking your opinion into account, but you're not gonna get instant results on anything here.
Calm your shit. Be patient. Learn what WIFOM is (google that shit) and think about how you can use it.

Don't take this as me being buddy buddy with you. I still think you're scummy as shit, but on the off chance that your newbie claim is true, I feel like you need some help so there it is.
Now fuck off.

[Mkoll]

actually not JSaint, although he's on my friends list ;)

I'm not supposed to say who I am, but I left a clue for ya in my breakdown on day 2 of who I think is scum... If you didn't catch it then you haven't played many FM's with me xD

But stop distracting from the post... everyone read what I wrote and use your logic... you will see he is GUARENTEED mafia... his posting, and lynch pushing on no evidence, his tunnel vision on one target... I don't know how you guys could see him as anything less then mafia... especially considering the circumstances
How many fucking FMs have you played, newbie?
You just shit on your entire newbie sheriff gambit, scum.
GJ.

[Jabba]

OK, so, here's the deal:
This isn't sc2maf. This game is much slower and the people who play tend to be of a much higher cognitive caliber.
You spamming "I'M INVEST LYNCH SUCH AND SUCH" isn't gonna get a train on them immediately. The mind games played in FM are such that no one believes anyone without concrete evidence.
Even so, just because you got a suspicious result on one person one night doesn't concretely say that they're suspicious. There are a million other possible instances in which you getting a susp. result can be inaccurate & we have to play with the details and consider everything.

You're already out in the open about everything (role & results). Keep it that way for now. Tell us what result you get tonight.
Having said all that, I still don't really believe your claim. When I played my first FM not only did I read every single role card and every single mechanic and every single rule, but I browsed through a few older FMs to get a feel for the game and how I wanted to play it. Given, I wasn't particularly effective, but I was more effective than many other newbies.
I feel like any self-respecting newbie would have read through everything as I did.
I feel like your newbie sheriff/invest/whatever claim is crap.
IF (big if) you actually are what you claim, then town needs you ALIVE so you can get more INVESTIGATION RESULTS. We're listening to you and taking your opinion into account, but you're not gonna get instant results on anything here.
Calm your shit. Be patient. Learn what WIFOM is (google that shit) and think about how you can use it.

Don't take this as me being buddy buddy with you. I still think you're scummy as shit, but on the off chance that your newbie claim is true, I feel like you need some help so there it is.
Now fuck off.


I like you.

We should buddy all game. I want to buddy with you all game.

[Jabba]

I like you.

We should buddy all game. I want to buddy with you all game.

And I know how we can buddy all game.

[Paul]

Paul here. My Vault (66) had absolutely shit all happen during the game. Honestly, the vault has to be filled with scum because nothing happened.

Student - Biggs
Hidden Wastelander
Detective - Rachel
Sane Sheriff - Rodgers
Ventriloquist -
Puppet -
Puppet - Ben
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any - Paul

Roles needed to be placed: Jailor/Devourer, ?, ?, ?
Players needed to be placed: Wicket, Klaus, Bragg, Phoebe, Lei

Day One:
-Phoebe decides to vote Lei before Lei even posts (later admits to choosing someone randomly)
-I join as the vote for a simple pressure vote
-Wicket and Bragg follow suit and join the vote
-Lei is not lynched
-No one says anything the whole goddamn day.
-As for Phoebe claiming she "derailed" the lynch train on Lei, that is absolute bullshit. There were only 4/6 votes on Lei at most, with less than 40 posts the entire day. This was her only post after the supposed "lynch train":


i wnted to see who wuld side wit who. i am pro head vigi!! 8)

-unvote Lei



Day Two:
-Rachel is executed (Devourer/Jailor).
-This was odd because Rachel's last will said she was a Detective who claimed/trusted the jailor. Now, was this a Devourer? If so, why didn't they clean Rachel's last will? Was this a Jailor (failor)?
-If there was a second Ventriloquist in our vault (since there are 52 accounts, but only 48 roles), that would make me a Puppet/Ventriloquist. Which is bullshit, because I'm neither.
-Nothing happened to anyone the previous night.

Day Three:
-No one had actions happen to them again. Not even a jailed claim.
-Rodgers finally has some information. Biggs came up Not Suspicious, while Ben came up Suspicious.
-There were reservations because Ben seemed pro-town, while Biggs just trolled the day away.
-Biggs claims Student.
-I decide to wait for Ben to claim, but didn't make it back online in time (which is obviously going to look scummy as hell)
-Ben, as it turns out, doesn't post at all the entire day.
-He turns out to be a Brotherhood Puppet after being lynched.
-Possible Ventriloquist targets are the three players who were interviewed on Night Two for failing to post anything useful: Lei, Phoebe, and Bragg.

[Francine]

Wow, I was surprised how I ended up to being inside the vault.

And Yoshimtsu, you are completery wrong. I voted Brady and Law on Day 3. I was VERY suprised that I was not participanting in Melon Roulette. Maybe that was because scum lost interest in me after I revealed my role?

We do NOT know if Ackbar was lying or not. If he was Detective, then did he relaying his Night 1 and Night 2 results to you? No? Then he probably was Enclave scum. And revealing your role to Brady, Yoshimitsu... was probably not a wise thing.
Although I was suprised when I heard that Brade ATE 5 melons in a row AND survived AND won the roulette. Although I guess he did that to protect Ackbar, it essentially turned out against him after Yoshimitsu skipped his turn.

Here is my vision of roles in the vault as of now:

Hidden Enclave - Law
Hidden Wastelander - Brady
Hidden NCR - Gaunt
Hidden NCR - Yoshimitsu
Citizen - Hayley (dead)
Hidden Any (Citizen) - Steve (dead)
Hidden Any (Detective?) - Ackbar
Hidden Any - Francine (me)

[Brostin]

kk first off I never claimed newbie... I'll have you know I am 4 for 4 on my FM's... one I got aspiring new-comer and another MVP(well shoulda been anyways but no awards)... I'm not saying I'm pro and understand the mechanics of the huge FM's... but I do know how to scum hunt fairly well, and if you look at my post you will see logically why he is mafia...

and f.y.i., some of us have jobs and social lives... and dont have the time to read that much crap and still participate in the game... not saying you don't have a social life, just obviously not a big enough one to interfere with your gaming obviously... so don't hold everyone to the same torch you burn

[Brostin]

jesus Mkoll... are you guys sure he's not the orange mafia from your group... he is one scummy S.O.B. imo

[Jabba]

jesus Mkoll... are you guys sure he's not the orange mafia from your group... he is one scummy S.O.B. imo

Yeah, I rather lynch Francine and Gaunt before you.




You, however, I hope die from a Jailor and a Devourer at the same time.

[Francine]

Whoever voted Ackbar and Yoshimitsu is definitely scum. I voted Brady and Law. I'm sure that those words "I want so see Francine in the roulette" wast just empty talk and scum just wanted to lynch power roles like Yoshimitsu and Ackbar. I thing it is most likely Law's doing.

[Jabba]

Whoever voted Ackbar and Yoshimitsu is definitely scum. I voted Brady and Law. I'm sure that those words "I want so see Francine in the roulette" wast just empty talk and scum just wanted to lynch power roles like Yoshimitsu and Ackbar. I thing it is most likely Law's doing.

It seems like you were being protected. If you had voted for them, than you would be up there, not Yoshi.

Probability says that you voted for what the mafia in your vault voted for.

[Leia]

The thing is about that, At the end of day 3, It said that everyone received atleast 1 feedback message a night like we were drugged. So are you sure that you were actually role blocked? and not drugged from the vault?

Monica, on N2 I received this feedback:
-Given a gun
-Roleblocked

N1 I received this feedback:
-Given a gun

Out of my night 2 feedback, one of them has to be real. It is possible I received a real gun, but I believe it far more likely that I was role blocked (or drug deal role blocked from a third orange mafia).

Also this is very important.
After brief textual analysis I believe Yoda was disguiser that disguised as Brostin after he claimed sheriff.

Certain parts of his posting style do not quite match up. Can somebody from the Brostin/Yoda vault please post more information on ALL of Brostin's posts and both Brostin and Yoda's approximate posting times/likely time zone? I find it far more likely that Yoda was a disguiser at the moment.

[Jabba]

Monica, on N2 I received this feedback:
-Given a gun
-Roleblocked

N1 I received this feedback:
-Given a gun

Out of my night 2 feedback, one of them has to be real. It is possible I received a real gun, but I believe it far more likely that I was role blocked (or drug deal role blocked from a third orange mafia).

Also this is very important.
After brief textual analysis I believe Yoda was disguiser that disguised as Brostin after he claimed sheriff.

Certain parts of his posting style do not quite match up. Can somebody from the Brostin/Yoda vault please post more information on ALL of Brostin's posts and both Brostin and Yoda's approximate posting times/likely time zone? I find it far more likely that Yoda was a disguiser at the moment.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

YOU'RE RIGHT.

I have been feeling weird about Brostin lately, his posts seem off from Day 2.

I was going to comment about that an hour ago, but it didn't feel right.

[Leia]

I will post more evidence on my textual analysis later, but I would like someone from that vault to please post as much information as possible so all of the town can analyze it. There are certain patterns of his speech that are extremely different after Yoda's death but I do not wish to reveal them at this time for fear that Brostin will attempt to correct them.

Mkoll is confirmed NOT orange mafia, since he was the target of an orange mafia role block, but there is a possibility he could be a red mafia ventriloquist/puppet. I will have to check into this at the moment. It's just odd to me that Mkoll would not consider the possibility of the Yoda kill being a disguiser. He seemed much smarter when we were hunting the orange mafia in our vault. (Tentative FOS)

As I stated earlier, Larkin has got to be the orange mafia drug dealer. I'm going to keep posting about this until he comes on to defend himself because I hope it doesn't get buried under all of the posts.

[Brostin]

day 2 Yoda was still alive you derp... and also I was the one who said that disguiser might be possible... but w/e check me if you please... or kill me, either way make sure you get Jabba... because if I'm not Diguiser(which I'm obviously not) then Jabba HAS to be Janitor... or Yoda disguised as someone else... maybe Jabba?... because Jabba was saying how important his role was d1... I don't know... this is gonna throw a wrench in the works... I doubt it though because Jabba has always been very agressive and lynch happy... I think he is just a derp mafia, being way to obvious...

[Jabba]

VERY interesting quote from Day 2 Brostin(before Yoda death.)


"and to re-answer my question about the vault... no I think its gay... doesnt really benefit either side... if anythign scum I guess though cause they get their own night chat outside of the vault where fellow townies could trade information... I woulda much rather preferred a huge chat because then you can see everyones playstyles... instead of being locked up here with a few people... thats the way I was hoping it would be... then when I have time I could look through all the messages and make a scum list like I usually make to try and weed out roles and find scum by process of elimination... but now just because I have a job and a social life and can't be head scum hunter... I get free lynched... I do things my way... sorry they arent on your schedule...

too be fair... I am sorry I didnt submit my night action... but I've said since day 1 that I dont like the smell of yoda and said I was going to check him n1... but time passed days passed faster then I thought and I didnt get the action in... sorry Roxy, but you should make a "Mafia for Dummies" post about the bare BASIC rules of the game... cause as a newer player I had no idea about half of this shit... and wasnt about to read through the schematics of the game to get the answer... I'm obviously not king shit at this game, nor do I pretend to be... I just enjoy the basic premiss of it... you need to make things more clear and basic for the newer players... just a suggestion"


Yet....



"kk first off I never claimed newbie... I'll have you know I am 4 for 4 on my FM's... one I got aspiring new-comer and another MVP(well shoulda been anyways but no awards)... I'm not saying I'm pro and understand the mechanics of the huge FM's... but I do know how to scum hunt fairly well, and if you look at my post you will see logically why he is mafia...

and f.y.i., some of us have jobs and social lives... and dont have the time to read that much crap and still participate in the game... not saying you don't have a social life, just obviously not a big enough one to interfere with your gaming obviously... so don't hold everyone to the same torch you burn"


Also I noticed that the ellipses are less common now then the day 2 Brostin.

[Paul]

Oh I do have a followup: with both ventriloquists and all of their puppets in the same vault, there could only be 6 total votes if everyone votes. Did everyone vote at one point? If not, it could mean a puppet or two was placed in a different vault.

The most votes we had was 5 on Day 3 to lynch Ben (we needed 5 due to 9 players being alive).

Voters were: Rodgers, Biggs, Bragg, Klaus, Wicket

Now, since we know there was a puppet (and they only have one collective vote), I assume the # of votes to lynch would be decreased?

What happens to the # of votes required to lynch if there is a Ventriloquist with two smurf accounts in the same vault?

Is it possible that a Ventriloquist can be in one vault while his smurfs are in an entirely separate vault?

If so, then only 4 of those votes were needed. Rodgers seemed fairly spot on with his Sheriff claim as he had a great possibility of being wrong. But maybe he was just lucky...or was it some sort of gambit?

Based on lack of posts (and interviews), I would peg Pheobe/Bragg as Ventriloquist/Puppet. No way to support that, though.

Klaus was particularly trolly as well with his faux German accent. Lei also barely posted at all and provided no relevant information.

[Mkoll]

jesus Mkoll... are you guys sure he's not the orange mafia from your group... he is one scummy S.O.B. imo
1. I'm not scummy because I think you're scummy. Get that through your thick, pre-pubescent skull.

2. You not knowing that your vault was separate from other vaults makes you a complete fucking downie. Read the fucking mechanics and rules you stupid asshole.

3. Did you not see all of our explanations? Why the FUCK would you ask if we were sure that I'm not orange mafia?

4. Fuck yourself with a rusty machete. Or a flaming fucking cactus.

5. You can't successfully scumhunt by not posting. It doesn't work. You are stupid.

6. Fuck

7. You.

[Mkoll]

What happens to the # of votes required to lynch if there is a Ventriloquist with two smurf accounts in the same vault?

Is it possible that a Ventriloquist can be in one vault while his smurfs are in an entirely separate vault?

1. Nothing happens. The ventriloquist and puppets only share one vote per all of them. That means that if the ventriloquist and both of his puppets voted to lynch someone, there is actually only 1 vote on him.

2. I already asked this & posted the answer in this thread (don't blame you for not reading, though) and the answer is yes, it's possible.

[Jabba]

Another interesting quote

He said this when he was 1 vote from a free lynch.

"wow... what a douche community... get rid of the new guy cause he didn't understand the rules... no wonder that false truth guy made his own website or w/e"

[Jabba]

1. Nothing happens. The ventriloquist and puppets only share one vote per all of them. That means that if the ventriloquist and both of his puppets voted to lynch someone, there is actually only 1 vote on him.

2. I already asked this & posted the answer in this thread (don't blame you for not reading, though) and the answer is yes, it's possible.

Notice anything about me?

You and I... were are together forever.

[Jabba]

Notice anything about me?

You and I... were are together forever.

were are? Fail.

[Mkoll]

Another interesting quote

He said this when he was 1 vote from a free lynch.

"wow... what a douche community... get rid of the new guy cause he didn't understand the rules... no wonder that false truth guy made his own website or w/e"
LOL this fuckin' guy.
Fuck you, broheim or whatever your name is. You're a twat.

[Mkoll]

Notice anything about me?

You and I... were are together forever.
Ya, totes. Friends for life ;)

[Francine]

So, Yoda, you're actually still alive, aren't you? Remember your green friend? Now too long, since you'll be the first to be lynched!

-vote Brostin

[Jabba]

Ya, totes. Friends for life ;)

I'll make sure of it tonight. We will never leave each other's sight.

[Mkoll]

I will post more evidence on my textual analysis later, but I would like someone from that vault to please post as much information as possible so all of the town can analyze it. There are certain patterns of his speech that are extremely different after Yoda's death but I do not wish to reveal them at this time for fear that Brostin will attempt to correct them.

Mkoll is confirmed NOT orange mafia, since he was the target of an orange mafia role block, but there is a possibility he could be a red mafia ventriloquist/puppet. I will have to check into this at the moment. It's just odd to me that Mkoll would not consider the possibility of the Yoda kill being a disguiser. He seemed much smarter when we were hunting the orange mafia in our vault. (Tentative FOS)

As I stated earlier, Larkin has got to be the orange mafia drug dealer. I'm going to keep posting about this until he comes on to defend himself because I hope it doesn't get buried under all of the posts.
At the moment I'm focusing on a few different things. Plus watching Sons of Anarchy and occasionally paying attention to my girlfriend.
Gonna be honest, I haven't put as much brainpower into today as I have days prior (except my first post, but I prepared that the minute day 3 was over).
I'm still the same asshole Mkoll as I was in vault 103, just in a different environment.

[Brostin]

lmao holy Mkoll don't get mad... just saying you sound scummy... no need to get so angry...

and NEWER and NEWBIE are 2 completely different things... Newbie means I've never played before... Newer means I've played a few times and still getting the hang of it..

see this all leads me to wanting to kill myself again to prove to you guys that Jabba is scum... you're so friggin focused on me when Jabba is acting 10 times as scummy as I am and why... cause mafia is coming to Jabbas side to help him on his plan... and derp townies are going along for the ride...

I honestly don't know what to do anymore, you dont want me to kill myself to prove my role and prove Jabba is mafia.. but as long as I stay alive I am a jester and wont be taken seriously... either way Jabba gets away scot free and no one questions his scumminess...

I plead for a any NCR power role to find get or invest Jabba tonight... if you need proof I offer myself to be lynched/shot/jailed and exed... to proove that this was a setup perpetrated by Jabba to mislynch a townie.. I am also 85% sure Jin is his partner... although with the Disguiser it could be anyone...

[Francine]

On the other hand, guys from the Vault 103 will be most likely targeted by Enclave and NCR, since they had the must success out of all vaults.

[Mkoll]

lmao holy Mkoll don't get mad... just saying you sound scummy... no need to get so angry...

and NEWER and NEWBIE are 2 completely different things... Newbie means I've never played before... Newer means I've played a few times and still getting the hang of it..

see this all leads me to wanting to kill myself again to prove to you guys that Jabba is scum... you're so friggin focused on me when Jabba is acting 10 times as scummy as I am and why... cause mafia is coming to Jabbas side to help him on his plan... and derp townies are going along for the ride...

I honestly don't know what to do anymore, you dont want me to kill myself to prove my role and prove Jabba is mafia.. but as long as I stay alive I am a jester and wont be taken seriously... either way Jabba gets away scot free and no one questions his scumminess...

I plead for a any NCR power role to find get or invest Jabba tonight... if you need proof I offer myself to be lynched/shot/jailed and exed... to proove that this was a setup perpetrated by Jabba to mislynch a townie.. I am also 85% sure Jin is his partner... although with the Disguiser it could be anyone...
Oo0o0o0o
Notice how his ellipses immediately became more common.

[Francine]

Just look at the Vault 103 list - two Brotherhood members are dead. Good job out there. Not like the retards in my vault, where everything is "luck-based".

[Mkoll]

On the other hand, guys from the Vault 103 will be most likely targeted by Enclave and NCR, since they had the must success out of all vaults.
Aww, shucks.
You're gonna give us all big heads.
I ain't afraid of no fuckin' mafia scumbags. Piss on all of em.

[Jabba]

lmao holy Mkoll don't get mad... just saying you sound scummy... no need to get so angry...

and NEWER and NEWBIE are 2 completely different things... Newbie means I've never played before... Newer means I've played a few times and still getting the hang of it..

see this all leads me to wanting to kill myself again to prove to you guys that Jabba is scum... you're so friggin focused on me when Jabba is acting 10 times as scummy as I am and why... cause mafia is coming to Jabbas side to help him on his plan... and derp townies are going along for the ride...

I honestly don't know what to do anymore, you dont want me to kill myself to prove my role and prove Jabba is mafia.. but as long as I stay alive I am a jester and wont be taken seriously... either way Jabba gets away scot free and no one questions his scumminess...

I plead for a any NCR power role to find get or invest Jabba tonight... if you need proof I offer myself to be lynched/shot/jailed and exed... to proove that this was a setup perpetrated by Jabba to mislynch a townie.. I am also 85% sure Jin is his partner... although with the Disguiser it could be anyone...

Cool, why did you make your ellipses moe common all of a sudden and your spelling grammar just took a big downfall.

You're panicking, Yoda.

I would also like to say that Yoda and Brostin posted in our vault as if they were in the same time zone. They were able to talk to each other immediately after one or the other posted and they did so.





-vote Brostin

[Brostin]

more common... they are in all my posts... Jabba already asked me about it and I explained... you're welcome to get no information from it though lmao

[Mkoll]

Just look at the Vault 103 list - two Brotherhood members are dead. Good job out there. Not like the retards in my vault, where everything is "luck-based".
Thanks.
Although, it seems we had the most traditional mechanics out of all of the vaults.
I'm not taking credit away from anyone but we were definitely more in our element than you guys would have, even with the fucked up night actions.

[Jabba]

Just look at the Vault 103 list - two Brotherhood members are dead. Good job out there. Not like the retards in my vault, where everything is "luck-based".

AIN'T NO ONE TOUCHING MKOLL.




I'll make sure of it.

[Brostin]

KILL ME DAMNIT.... you guys better not derp and completely forget about Jabba after this... and when you see what my role really is you cant yell out troll cause you guys are stupid... I played properly... you guys are just idiots...

Just PROMISE me... once I die and you see what role I am you will kill Jabba... because if you look at all the posts from our vault he has been setting this up and was really pissed people didnt go along with it... DO NOT overlook this.. and don't believe the lies and false claims he will make... he will do anything to get out of the spotlight once my role is revealed... he has been setting this up since he saw how scummy I saw Yoda as...

just f.y.i. to think about... I would like to die because Downskoll doesn't seem to have any logic... just alot of pent up anger, probably cause he does nothing but sit around and read old FM's and game mechanics... but if I was Yoda going to diguise... why would I disguise n2... when there was no heat on me... to a guy who was on his way to being lynched... logically doesnt make sense.. but like I said I would like to be killed tonight... I would prefer not to be lynched so you guys can put to rest the jester bullshit... jailor or vigil plz take me out tonight... and if there are any townies left with a shred of logic... look at what I wrote... look at what role I am... look at what Jabba's said and done... and make an educated decision please

[Jabba]

Doctor be on me tonight or there will be fatal consequences, i have talked too much, i am for sure a target tonight. I will have information regarding two people if I live tonight.

[Jabba]

And yes, I plan on claiming my role tomorrow.

[Brostin]

I'm sorry to the townies... but I really dont know what else to do... there is a overwheming stupidity taken over these forums... dont let mafia out weigh the townies in chat... they will run the town in bad directions...

I will suicide tonight either way... because if I'm alive tomorrow it'll just be more of this bullshit... but because I don't want to gamethrow, I will leave it up to the townies...

If I get 10 or more votes I will suicide tonight for the betterment of the town

[Brostin]

See Jabba is already starting with the scumminess and claiming fake roles... please don't believe this shit... he is playing you townies like a fiddle... and your following him.... jesus... you wanna talk about scum hunting Mkoll you are terribad at it

[Mkoll]

I'm sorry to the townies... but I really dont know what else to do... there is a overwheming stupidity taken over these forums... dont let mafia out weigh the townies in chat... they will run the town in bad directions...

I will suicide tonight either way... because if I'm alive tomorrow it'll just be more of this bullshit... but because I don't want to gamethrow, I will leave it up to the townies...

If I get 10 or more votes I will suicide tonight for the betterment of the town
LOL
Leia, Monica, doesn't this look EXACTLY like the ploy that King pulled before we lynched him and he was mafia?

-vote Brostin

I'm not gonna encourage to kill yaself, brostin, because that would be me inciting a rule violation worthy of you being modkilled & that ain't right.
But I think we should push for 10+ votes on this asshole.

[Mkoll]

See Jabba is already starting with the scumminess and claiming fake roles... please don't believe this shit... he is playing you townies like a fiddle... and your following him.... jesus... you wanna talk about scum hunting Mkoll you are terribad at it
Yeah, you're right. I'm a terrible scum hunter. Ask everyone else from vault 103.

[Brostin]

well I dont see it as gamethrowing if it is to help my team win... I have asked this before and never got an answer from the FM Game Master... I will ask again and hopefully get an answer in PM...

Mkoll if you really are town(which I doubt) you are going to look like the biggest tool for suspecting me and not Jabba... although to me you already are the biggest tool, and a terribad scum hunter... you get tunnel-vision on something, and that is the worst thing a scum-hunter can do... if you want after this FM I can take you back to SC2 mafia and teach you the basics :D

[Mkoll]

From King - day 3 post 53
"here is life as I see it,
1- I missed day one for personal reasons, made me look bad fine, my fault
2- Greedo already had a lot of influence on this vault, and didn't claim being rolled blocked. having said something would of painted me more for a mafia than he already was
3- When Stan claimed Escort, I was stuck and couldn't come clean anyone, so I continued avoiding claiming, my fault I wasn't there day 1
4- I'm voted up for sure because there is several scum that don't care who is voted up and lynch so long someone is. In me they can do so without fear of drawing attention to themselves.
5- the only way I'm saved is if my hit was from a vig, and that he comes out and says yes I tried to kill him and I got the message back that he was nursed back to health. if there is a vig, he won't let a town die.
6- if my attacked doesn't come forth, then he's a scum and we have two kills scums in this vault

look at it anyway you want, I never lied, I didn't claim a role. I told the truth about being bussed, night one, someone else was bussed last night so this means bus driver should believe me, so does doc... we just have too many scums so check who started this party lynch and you have your scum that could eliminate someone without bring extra attention to themselves.


Save me Vig, save me, I forgive you, I understand why you tried to kill me... save me... Obi-wan"

Day3 - post 62
"thank you :) just being realistic about my faith.

If I was shot by a scum, then he's laughing all the way to the bank, yes he's sorry he missed and waisted a chance to lynch one more but no suspicious is cast on him and I still die.

If it was a vig following Greedo claim, then he knows I was nursed back but he needs to put himself out to do so and the fact that doc believed in me doesn't mean that it's enough to make him change his mind. None the less, even if vig comes out and verifies my story, there is too many scum neutrals that would want me dead either way and those players will pretend not to believe me and tomorrow when my name and my escort role is in the graveyard, they will say, Oh I didn't come back in time to change my vote etc.

face it, I,m fucked, only doc, that got the msg that your target was attacked and vig/scum that attacked me could make an attempt of saving me... this doesn't insure that the scum would follow suit. If I was a scum, I would vote guilty and hope that coming to the surface will bring enough distraction that what happened will go unnoticed.

What can I do to make the good guys believe me ? not much, I can't even offer to role block someone tonight, you won't allow it. There is only doc that knows for sure and vig/scum, well..."

Day3 Post 83 -
"Si it's a no then on posting my PM?

Anyway for the rest of you dumb idiot town, if I didn't want to come through I could stick with the citz and stand as good a chance as now.

Why would I claim escort if it wasn't true. Not for the neutral and his boned that's for sure.

Like I said, no matter how hard I try, the scum will ignore it and I'm a dead escort... Tomorrow, check the grave, idiots!"

This is the exact same behavior our buddy Brostin is exhibiting.
King, the guy I'm quoting from, turned out to be Consort.
You go ahead and make the connection here.

[Mkoll]

well I dont see it as gamethrowing if it is to help my team win... I have asked this before and never got an answer from the FM Game Master... I will ask again and hopefully get an answer in PM...

Mkoll if you really are town(which I doubt) you are going to look like the biggest tool for suspecting me and not Jabba... although to me you already are the biggest tool, and a terribad scum hunter... you get tunnel-vision on something, and that is the worst thing a scum-hunter can do... if you want after this FM I can take you back to SC2 mafia and teach you the basics :D
Yep, tunnel vision, homie.
That's why I had my vote on someone else until my last post where I moved it on to you.
Makes tons of sense.
Moron.

[Monica]

-vote Brostin
I agree with you, This is the exact thing King pulled before he was lynched. Is this the orange mafia's plan? Pretend your inno then bitch and scream about it? Lol

[Brostin]

yet you don't see any scumminess from Jabba's posts... jeez you are either scum, or the worst scum hunter ever... honestly bro... for all this "reading" you do... you still are probably one of the least logical people I have met on here... if you are scum I guess you are doing a good job... but anything other then that... you are just terribad... I can't wait till you see my role and you eat crow for not having any scum-hunting skills what-so-ever

[Francine]

By the way, Yoshimitsu, I just noticed that dead Rachel (from another vault) was a Detective. It is quite likely that Ackbar lied to you during Melon Roulette. He was probably Enclave member or Hidden Neutral, as I doubt that Luna would insert 2 Detectives in the game.

Sounds legit to you, fellow Vault 5 members? Is there any way to find out Ackbar's true role?

[Han]

is it possible there were any scum takeovers in some of the vaults, and all their information is made up?

[Han]

why is there such a shit fest
everyone needs to calm down

[Francine]

Here is the current list of alive players:

Beru
Biggs
Boba
Han
Jabba
Lando
Leia
Luke
Tarkin
Vader
Wedge
Wicket
Fluttershy
Ross
Monica
Phoebe
Francine
Roger
Klaus
Gaunt
Mkoll
Rawne
Bragg
Brostin
Larkin
Tebow
Vick
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Manning
Romo
Yoshimitsu
Law
Nina
Paul
Lei
Eddy
Jin

[Mkoll]

yet you don't see any scumminess from Jabba's posts... jeez you are either scum, or the worst scum hunter ever... honestly bro... for all this "reading" you do... you still are probably one of the least logical people I have met on here... if you are scum I guess you are doing a good job... but anything other then that... you are just terribad... I can't wait till you see my role and you eat crow for not having any scum-hunting skills what-so-ever
Well, considering I've scum hunted the shit out of you for about 2 hours now & you've failed every single time I'd say I'm not half bad.

Oh, and you're retarded. Just thought I'd remind you in case you forgot while you were feeling all drunk on power from sitting on your mommy's lap sipping on a juice box.
Did she have to put the straw in for you?

[Mkoll]

Because she offered to "put the straw in" for me, too, if you catch my drift, Broheim.
;)

(sorry, I know that was lame, but I couldn't resist)

[Brostin]

I'm not bitching dumbasses I want to be lynched... I already have my vote on me... you guys are just to idiotic to see the truth... will more people vote so we can get the real game going instead of derptard leading the town with his derpy men... fuck just get it over with already, once I die then Jabba will be next(hopefully unless you guys ARE idiots) which will leave one less mafia... if one orange is already dead, and Jabba is probably Orange... that'll be 2 orange and 2 brotherhood dead.. thatll give town a HUGE advantage... considering how many townies will be left...

although I would check Mkoll... although he may not be mafia... he doesn't sound like he's as stupid as he makes himself out to be... I think hes a neutral role, possibly something with a following...

also look into Jin, he followed Jabba's lynch happiness...

Russ said I falsely claimed which I didn't... everyone in my vault knows this although none of them seem to see it as suspicious for some reason... other then that...

Nina seems like shes logical, but thatd be a perfect target for Disguiser if there is one...

Beru sounds like town... he's not about to lynch people with no solid eveidence.. and his tone did not change so I'm going to guess not disguiser...

Boba was the first to ask for the technician position... so I don't know whether he is town PR or a neutral lookin to survive... but his demeaner did not seem very scummy

I'm going to guess the roles as

Hidden Enclave-Jabba
Hidden Neutral-Ross
Hidden NCR-Brostin
Hidden NCR-Yoda
Hidden NCR-Beru/Boba
Citizen-Chandler
Hidden Any-Beru/Boba
Hidden Any-Ross
Hidden Any-Jin(Second Enclave)

funny thing is we were going to give the technician job to Nina... I voted for her but "not in the proper format" according to FM Game Master... so my vote didnt count... I don't know how Ross ended up getting it... considering he never asked for it and no one said anything about giving it too him...

these are all my thoughts... please go back and read all my posts when I die... especially the one with proof of Jabba being mafia... I know there is some sensibility left in this town... don't let mafia and scummy neutrals take over the chat... we need some strong townies to deter all this scum... I hope in my abstance I make a difference...

[Brostin]

lmfao dude... you're the one sitting at home alone in the dark reading over old FM's and reading all the role cards... and the sad thing is, you think you'd be good by now lmao... all the free time not working, no education... living at your parents house(all speculation of course, but I dont think I'm far off)...

[Mkoll]

lmfao dude... you're the one sitting at home alone in the dark reading over old FM's and reading all the role cards... and the sad thing is, you think you'd be good by now lmao... all the free time not working, no education... living at your parents house(all speculation of course, but I dont think I'm far off)...
When I was reading old FMs it was December & I was on winter break.
I'm a full time college student during the school year. Already have my associate's in arts and I'll have my bachelors at the end of this next school year.
I work full time during the summer.
I have a girlfriend & a nephew that I take care of now.
So lololol jokes on you, assface. Get your mouth off of your mom's tits.
Retard.

[Manning]

Oh damn been caught up playing Grognak the Barbarian. Christ that game is addicting!

[Jin]

...
I agree.

-vote Brostin

[Brostin]

oh yess... and I'm sure you're getting your PHD next year... and you are actually a Cowboy Astronaut Millionaire...

now what are you really when you are not behind a computer screen?... I vote for 26 year old unemployed bum living at his parents house... but I don't want to judge... I'm sure your life was hard... your sense of entitlement must make you very angry when you don't work for anything and don't get anything...

[Mkoll]

oh yess... and I'm sure you're getting your PHD next year... and you are actually a Cowboy Astronaut Millionaire...

now what are you really when you are not behind a computer screen?... I vote for 26 year old unemployed bum living at his parents house... but I don't want to judge... I'm sure your life was hard... your sense of entitlement must make you very angry when you don't work for anything and don't get anything...
It's all good, bro.
You think that. When the game's over, I'll send a nice PM to your COM with some interesting shit inside. ;)

I think.
I think......
umad.

[Mkoll]

oh yess... and I'm sure you're getting your PHD next year... and you are actually a Cowboy Astronaut Millionaire...

now what are you really when you are not behind a computer screen?... I vote for 26 year old unemployed bum living at his parents house... but I don't want to judge... I'm sure your life was hard... your sense of entitlement must make you very angry when you don't work for anything and don't get anything...
BTW I'm 22.
Got my associate's at 20.
Getting my bachelor's at 23.
Gonna start my career at 24 probably.
But yeah, you're right. Anyone who's smarter than you and can make you look fucking stupid must be a 26 year old neckbeard. Keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep well at night, my friend.

Oh, and die in a car fire please.
Thanks.

[Brostin]

LMFAO @ you thinking you are smarter then me... just because you're a bum and have nothing better to do all day then read useless FM bullshit doesn't mean you're smart... it means you're pathetic lmao... actually I will end this personal arguement because it seems you have no social/intellectual ammo... and I don't need your life story bro, if it wasn't true.. you wouldn't be defending it so much lol.. you're just getting all mad because I caught you in the truth of your sad life... so let's drop it and continue without the personal jabs... cause you are getting way to mad and defensive xD

[Leia]

At this point I'm just trying to take in all of the new information. It is quite overwhelming for Leia's brain to process so much. I finally caught up. More or less.

Here are some comments I have:
-I have no idea regarding the Yoshimitsu/Francine/Law vault accusations and maybe it's best to let a sheriff check them and sort that out for now.
-If Ben was a puppet, can somebody post all of Ben's posts and comment on his general posting times so we can try to get an idea of who the orange ventriloquist is?
-If Rodgers outed Ben, it is possible that he bussed his own mafia. We will know soon enough if Rodgers is killed or fails to procure more accurate results.
-Mkoll is right. Brostin's behavior does remind me of King in Vault 103.
-I still believe Larkin is orange mafia Drug Dealer. He has not come on to defend himself and will likely just lurk the day away. If I die, do not let Larkin get away with it.

Out of a disguiser (Brostin) and Drug Dealer (Larkin) I believe a drug dealer is a larger threat to the town because of his ability to confuse. Brostin can only be sent out for the kill at this point? In my opinion, it would be best to focus fire down one of the mafias first to eliminate a KPN and then focus on eliminating the other. That is why my vote will continue to be on Larkin. However, I believe it is best to lynch a scum today instead of none, so I will switch my vote later if people wish to vote out Brostin.

[Mkoll]

LMFAO @ you thinking you are smarter then me... just because you're a bum and have nothing better to do all day then read useless FM bullshit doesn't mean you're smart... it means you're pathetic lmao... actually I will end this personal arguement because it seems you have no social/intellectual ammo... and I don't need your life story bro, if it wasn't true.. you wouldn't be defending it so much lol.. you're just getting all mad because I caught you in the truth of your sad life... so let's drop it and continue without the personal jabs... cause you are getting way to mad and defensive xD
You can barely type in proper English, lol.
Bottom line is that I've gotten you to trip over your words & your story at least twice so far.
I win. You lose.
Asshole.
I'm sorry that your father raped your mother and spawned you.
I'm sorry that your mother did heroin while she was pregnant with you, resulting in brain damage.
That's not my fault, brother. Don't take it out on me.
You scummy shit.

xD
That was fun, but yeah we're spamming a bit too much now.
In all seriousness, my vote isn't going to leave you any time soon.

[Brostin]

wow leia... you read all mys posts and still consider me scum... I'm guessing you have some sort of connection with Mkoll... should be checked out once I am gone

[Leia]

Larkin scumtells:
-Asks questions that have already been answered to inflate post count
-Comments that there must be at least 2 orange mafia (Freudian slip)?
-When King blindly defends Stan, Larkin hints to King that he should reveal reasoning for thinking Stan is sheriff and hints that they discussed this in a night chat
-Stan claims escort, and Larkin suddenly says that Greedo must be lying
-Mkoll comments on Larkins’ flip flopping
-Flips opinion on Stan and hammers both Stan and King to “prove innocence”

[Biggs]

GUIZE
hi
i wud just like to ask a question
if i dont pick anybody as mentor will u suspect me as scum?
because that way i can just troll and help u scumhunt but mafurs and neuts will lv me alone as survivor

i am scurred ill pick sum shitzn or boring d0cda

orso br0stin if rodgers is sane sheriff then i dnt think ur sane sry

[Larkin]

Leia, did you completely miss the last info we received before exiting the vault?

"This means that each night, each of you have had a single, fake, feedback message given to you (as if you have been visited by a Drug Dealer)!"

Now I ask you: Did you receive more than 1 feedback message the night you got roleblocked?

I have only received one feedback message per night so they must have all been fake, only those who received two feedback messages one night knows that one of them was real.

[Brostin]

lmfao you idiot I dont want it too... I'm suiciding tonight regardless and you will hold a fond place in my lw... and I have never tripped over my words, nor changed my story... I have no idea where you guys are gettin this bullshit... my story has been the same since day 1... any crap you consider scummy is your own stupidity... either that or you are just being the most obvious scum imaginable... regardless I will suicide tonight and I hope you have a fun time explaining yourself tomorrow for acting like pure scum

I don't know whether I have to do this in PM or in day chat so..

-Suicide

I'm sure you have read every rule known to man Mkoll... how do I go about suiciding?

[Larkin]

Was I not right that Greedo was lying? He was a citizen claiming detective.
I had received feedback that night of being roleblocked, that made me believe Stan's claim. I didn't know that we all received one bogus feedback per night at that time, and you still don't seem to know that.

Leia you just hate me because I kept the friday song going to the second page.

[Biggs]

brostin dwag just use dis rope
0r i cn sell you a gun for $230234020
$23402304203420 if you want it delivered on mah magic carpet

[Tarkin]

I couldn't get on my computer at all on Friday so sorry about not posting. I have a lot more free time now.

I was bus driven on night 2. I'll probably post some of vault 21 chat or someone else can do it. I think we only had 20 or so posts on day 3.

You should probably PM your suicide, Brostin.

[Paul]

-If Ben was a puppet, can somebody post all of Ben's posts and comment on his general posting times so we can try to get an idea of who the orange ventriloquist is?

Ben posts on Day One:




Can Hidden Wastelanders on the role list be neutral killers? In the rolecards thread they're named Wasteland Wanderers

Did the jailer/journalist/architect/devourer/hitman get an action on day 0?






Originally Posted by Phoebe
thx rodger. also Ben u dare threten the head vigilante ??
I'm threatening noone Sith lord Kermit, but you do seem a bit trigger-happy with that gun of yours. It'd be better if we kept you on a short leash until we figure out what game you're playing.


I'm not sure what you all are trying to achieve by voting up Lei. There's no substantial evidence against him as far as I can see. Without night action feedback we have no clue what we're up against as we're completely in the dark as to what roles are inside our vault. It's too early to force anyone to roleclaim if you ask me, because no one can counterclaim or come out with evidence to the contrary. We will have two days to pressure or try and get a well-founded lynch. Let's be sensible about this and be patient. It would suck hard if we gave scum the chance to hammer on the first day when we have no idea what's going on.

@Biggs&Rodgers, there is a rule against changing your avatar after day/night 0. Hopefully the host will overlook it for day 1 because it isn't possible yet to pass around any information that you didn't have already on night 0.


Ben on Day Two:


Sorry for my absence. I had a busy day.

I wonder if we are supposed to be able to see who died in other vaults. I was under the impression that we were isolated from the rest of the players so I expected that it would be hidden.

As far as your suspicions of me are concerned, I asked questions about the hidden wastelanders because those two were the only confirmed non-town players on our roles list. It can be expected that one or two of the hidden any players are mafia, but if the hidden wastelanders did not include neutral killers then the chance of a having a neutral killer inside our vault would've been very slim. Knowing this ahead of time might have been important.

Trust me when I say that I'm competent enough not to ask questions about my own role publically when I'm playing a neutral that can't win with the town. The last thing you need when playing such a role is to let someone make connections like you just did, Paul. Considering you are one of the few players who is actually letting others in on your thoughts and searching for motive I would have expected you to see that I'm not the kind of player who digs his own grave so easily. If anything, the devourer is trying to implicate me because it was convenient that I asked questions about neutrals and he expected someone to bring that up. I mentioned Rachel and Phoebe as two players who might need some encouragement to play normally rather than trolling and random lynching just for kicks. So I don't see what point you're trying to make by connecting that post to last night's decapitation.

You look like you are trying quite hard to place blame on me and direct the discussion towards me. I don't think you are scum however. I'm fine with answering questions if you have any, but I implore you to judge carefully rather than jumping to conclusions. If you ask me, the devourer might be Klaus or Wicket. Wicket tried to reason that the kill might have been made by a jailer, but Rachel's last will indicates that she claimed. A jailer killing a detective claim on the first night without night action results to consider is simply too stupid to be true. Klaus is clearly hiding his speech pattern by talking like a German. It does suit his username but it's also a common way for a jailer to keep his identity a secret.

My other suspects for scum are Rodgers and Biggs because they haven't genuinely tried to make themselves useful.



Originally Posted by Wicket
I get your point there Obi, but the thing is.
Why wouldn't the Devourer use his cleanings on N2 and N3. He has 2 charges. It would be utterly retarded to not use them. He would probably come out of Vault 66 with no one knowing about his existence. This just makes no sense to me.

That's why i think it might be a jailor and not a Devourer. It's just too stupid.
You make a fair point there. He may have taken a gamble that Rachel wouldn't leave a last will because she had no results to share or he figured that cleaning might become more important later.

Another problem a devourer might face in these vaults is that if his kills are cleaned it will be that much harder for him to claim jailer later on because no one will have reported to be jailed in our vault if he killed and cleaned both nights. And if he killed and cleaned one night we'd know for sure there had to be a devourer, janitor or disguiser in our vault. Now it could theoretically still be a really bad jailer I suppose.


Phoebe was behaving oddly on day 1. We don't know what most of the roles on the roles list are and randomly starting a lynch without any information is a terrible idea. Today he is much more withdrawn. Trolling can work as a self defense mechanism even if it doesn't benefit the town initially or he could be a jester making sure he doesn't randomly get shot at night. I haven't made up my mind about him yet.

Lei isn't saying or doing much. I think he doesn't care much about the game, but he could be pretending in order to avoid too much attention. He could be anything though. I'd say citizen or a dull role like survivor that many find dull if I had to make a guess.



Originally Posted by Rodgers
hey guys, just gone home from a friend's house.

anything more you would like to know from me? i dont rly understand why the jailer decapitated Rachel. it doesnt make alot of sense since its only night one, so it was prolly a devourer. everyone should put actions in their last wills then, just in case u also get decapatated!
It's simple logic to write a new last will when you get jailed. If you don't get jailed, I'd still advise to beware of dirty sleuths. If you have no information to share that seems like it could be relevant for the town to figure things out, there's no need to claim in your last will.

Ben made no posts on Day 3







-If Rodgers outed Ben, it is possible that he bussed his own mafia. We will know soon enough if Rodgers is killed or fails to procure more accurate results.

It is possible, but it would be an absolutely idiotic move. There was no danger of anyone getting lynched in our vault except for a wild Sheriff claim like that. There would be no reason for him to bus his own mafia because our vault literally no information coming in. To give you an idea of our vault: less than 40 posts Day One, less than 45 posts Day 2, 80 posts on Day 3.