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Roger
June 29th, 2012, 04:39 PM
Good news guys. We now have a permanant KPN of 2:)

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 04:40 PM
Just in case there are any doubts, we control the gunsmith tools.

Who wants em?

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 04:46 PM
OH HEY GUYZ. GUESS WHO'S BACK?!

I have some great information for you all.

I was Devoured Night 2 and we now have ourselves an ally! He knows the identity of myself, Rodgers, Paul, and Nina (sorry Nina, but I have to give him something). He knows we are the Enclave.

And his name is Wicket.

He nearly became a liability today when he made up a role list and tried to pit the two Ventriloquists against each other (and revealed that there were Ventriloquists in the vault, which no one else knew), but we ended up lynching one of the Brotherhoods puppets! Woohoo! This gives him even more reason to side with us over the other mafia because we technically have more members (more accounts).

I'll have to write up all my transcripts.

Pertinent information:
-Rachel was devoured. She was a Detective.
-Ben was lynched. He was a Brotherhood puppet.
-Wicket is the Devourer.
-Biggs claimed Student.
-Bragg/Phoebe/Lei were all interviewed.

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 04:50 PM
Can you guys please post in here who has died in your vault and what role they are.

I would like to update the role list. =)

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Heihanchi is the only death in our vault. His role was citizen

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 04:53 PM
Also, you don't know this yet, but Rodgers claimed Sheriff (the Devourer asked me to) and it turned out brilliantly. I said that Biggs was Not Suspicious and that Ben was Suspicious. Biggs claimed Student (who actually would turn up as Not Suspicious) while Ben said nothing at all. Since Sheriffs detect mafia-aligned puppets, it worked out great! He's basically a confirmed noob Sheriff.

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 04:54 PM
My news is still better:p

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Also, I have a code with the Devourer. If we have a target we would like executed, he will do his best to aid us.

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Also, I have a code with the Devourer. If we have a target we would like executed, he will do his best to aid us.

Don't make this a competition. I'm telling you that we may be able to kill THREE people on N5, then 2 for every single night until the endgame.

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 05:01 PM
Lol, this isn't a competition. I'm just going to the bar in less than 15 minutes and I wanted to get as much information out there as I can (I already did up the Jail chat, but I haven't transcribed Day Two or Day Three yet, so I'll have to do that when I get home).

Plus, having no one to talk to at night except a guy who might execute you is pretty daunting, so it's nice to be able to talk to you fine folks again!

Nina
June 29th, 2012, 05:25 PM
seems like you guys get all the good action.
We killed, I assume, 2 citizens in our vault, identified a whore, and thats about it.
Leaking my name was a shitty thing to do, I know someone has to be valued the least, but dying sucks man
in any case, maybe it's not a big deal since my vault wasnt to make a quick work of me for being afk day 0.

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 08:20 PM
Atm, I am directing the gunsmith tools at Klaus, since he has his own little network with the help of all his pupets and Wicket and he has no night actions. Let me know quite quickly if there is someone better suited.

It is very likely that my vault-mates will be gunning for me tommorow. While there is a definate chance that I could get lynched, I am hoping that I will be able to survive long enough to disguise out before this deception is discovered.

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 08:42 PM
seems like you guys get all the good action.
We killed, I assume, 2 citizens in our vault, identified a whore, and thats about it.
Leaking my name was a shitty thing to do, I know someone has to be valued the least, but dying sucks man
in any case, maybe it's not a big deal since my vault wasnt to make a quick work of me for being afk day 0.

Was Yoda successfully cleaned? Remember, we do not have access to your graveyard. We need to know all dead players and their roles, if possible.

Same goes to Law and Gaunt: who died in your vault and what was their role?

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 08:43 PM
You may want to direct the gunsmith tools to Paul. I would rather have a Puppet take the bullet for me instead of the main account because, if Klaus dies, we lose both Rodgers and Paul.

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 08:46 PM
To Nina and Beru: should we try and convince Wicket to Devour and kill/clean Brostin? How sure are you that he is Sheriff?

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 09:07 PM
You may want to direct the gunsmith tools to Paul. I would rather have a Puppet take the bullet for me instead of the main account because, if Klaus dies, we lose both Rodgers and Paul.

I was thinking about that. However, the gunsmith tools are extreamly powerful. If you get the tools, we only lose the tools if you die. If your pupet gets the tools, we lose the tools if you die OR the pupet dies.

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 09:21 PM
I suppose that's true. I suppose I'll take them then. Also gives me a role to claim.

Roger
June 29th, 2012, 10:20 PM
I suppose that's true. I suppose I'll take them then. Also gives me a role to claim.

There may be issues with the last part. Giving you the gunsmith tools is coming at a great cost for me. I am preying that Vader(who was meant to recieve the tools) thinks that me not giving them to him is WIFOM, or it's decided the owner of the tools should stay hidden, or I can claim that I wasn't the person to choose the gunsmith. No matter what happens, however, come D5, the town will know the tools are in mafia hands.

Klaus
June 29th, 2012, 10:24 PM
There may be issues with the last part. Giving you the gunsmith tools is coming at a great cost for me. I am preying that Vader(who was meant to recieve the tools) thinks that me not giving them to him is WIFOM, or it's decided the owner of the tools should stay hidden, or I can claim that I wasn't the person to choose the gunsmith. No matter what happens, however, come D5, the town will know the tools are in mafia hands.

It is probably for the best that you Disguise as soon as possible anyway (Night Four). You have the Vigilante gun AND the gunsmith tools. In order for us to use these to our advantage, you need to get out of that Roger account asap and pretend to be someone else. Day Four we should be looking for priority targets for you to takeover because as soon as we use one of your items, chances are people will notice.

We *could* wait one day and make it look like a Janitor cleaned your body (since, after all, we have a janitor). Therefore, we can use the Disguise, but wait a night to use the items. On the other hand, killing as many town night four as we can is ideal because there are a TON of power roles floating about and we need to kill as many as we can immediately.

Beru
June 29th, 2012, 11:14 PM
He's probably sheriff, but he will end up dying anyways. Posting logs soon.

Nina
June 30th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Yoda was successfully cleaned, here's the last will
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Atnfk5Xdl0...s1600/yoda.png

This leads me to believe that Yoda was not an information role. Yoda appeared desperate to become technician - which would imply his importance. His trolly last will only means that he either was a cit, overseer, or a neutral (probably jester). My favourite theory is that he was a cit and intended to take a bullet (which he succeeded)

Gaunt
June 30th, 2012, 08:57 AM
Hi for vault 5 since his name is in red I am assuming Ackbar didn't survive melon roulette which is good because both me and Law secretly voted him. I'll post chat logs from day 3 soon (so lulzy) but I have an idea for a trick we can do on the surface...

the sleuth gambit

premise is simple we all claim different town roles in our last wills. The claim doesn't have to be true at all but we all post them in a topic. If one of us gets in real hot water than they have they claim sleuth, at which point they can use one of our last wills to clear them. Save it for if someone gets in trouble though.

How do our KPN work anyways? Who is doing the killing? Do we get to choose? I think if we can choose give law the guns and I can frame him every night to cover his ass. To answers law's concerns I have decided we have a much better shot of winning this game if I am a defensive framer than an offensive framer unless there is a clear reason to frame someone on the other team.

Pertinent rulings: If your target is checked by a Sheriff, the Sheriff will receive the opposite result. If your target is observed by a Lookout, the Lookout will receive false information. If your target is a Watchman they will receive false information. If your target is a Spy they will receive false information. If your target is being followed by a Detective, the Detective will receive false information.

At first I thought the framer was an offensive role but after looking at the role card and realizing I could frame my own teammates. Framer frames actress who disguises as a town pr while killing people. It works out great.

Roger
June 30th, 2012, 09:41 AM
Hi for vault 5 since his name is in red I am assuming Ackbar didn't survive melon roulette which is good because both me and Law secretly voted him. I'll post chat logs from day 3 soon (so lulzy) but I have an idea for a trick we can do on the surface...

the sleuth gambit

premise is simple we all claim different town roles in our last wills. The claim doesn't have to be true at all but we all post them in a topic. If one of us gets in real hot water than they have they claim sleuth, at which point they can use one of our last wills to clear them. Save it for if someone gets in trouble though.

How do our KPN work anyways? Who is doing the killing? Do we get to choose? I think if we can choose give law the guns and I can frame him every night to cover his ass. To answers law's concerns I have decided we have a much better shot of winning this game if I am a defensive framer than an offensive framer unless there is a clear reason to frame someone on the other team.

Pertinent rulings: If your target is checked by a Sheriff, the Sheriff will receive the opposite result. If your target is observed by a Lookout, the Lookout will receive false information. If your target is a Watchman they will receive false information. If your target is a Spy they will receive false information. If your target is being followed by a Detective, the Detective will receive false information.

At first I thought the framer was an offensive role but after looking at the role card and realizing I could frame my own teammates. Framer frames actress who disguises as a town pr while killing people. It works out great.

One step ahead. It's hardly creative, but my last will was meant to hint an citizen.

Klaus
June 30th, 2012, 11:31 AM
I was already wondering: Gaunt, do you think you could frame Rodgers on night 4? I'm going to have Rodgers claim Sheriff on the surface because, after the stunt I pulled on Day Three, he should be a priority target for the Brotherhood (almost confirmed Sane Sheriff in their eyes), so I'm going to try and get a Doctor on me.

We'll see how Day Four goes first though, but it's a plan.

Also Roger, what are your thoughts on giving Law the tools?

Klaus
June 30th, 2012, 11:32 AM
I was already wondering: Gaunt, do you think you could frame Rodgers on night 4? I'm going to have Rodgers claim Sheriff on the surface because, after the stunt I pulled on Day Three, he should be a priority target for the Brotherhood (almost confirmed Sane Sheriff in their eyes), so I'm going to try and get a Doctor on me.


But, then again, maybe it's not such a bad idea to use it on Klaus instead, considering the Puppets are basically throw away accounts (and I'm sure the town will have the information that there are three more accounts than there are roles revealed to everyone tomorrow).

Roger
June 30th, 2012, 11:39 AM
Law could work. You guy's know your situations better then I do. However, if you want Law to have the gun, say so very quick. I will be leaving in under an hour and I won't be back till deadline.

Gaunt
June 30th, 2012, 12:09 PM
Yes give law the gun please, he is actress so it is perfect

Gaunt
June 30th, 2012, 12:11 PM
I was already wondering: Gaunt, do you think you could frame Rodgers on night 4? I'm going to have Rodgers claim Sheriff on the surface because, after the stunt I pulled on Day Three, he should be a priority target for the Brotherhood (almost confirmed Sane Sheriff in their eyes), so I'm going to try and get a Doctor on me.

We'll see how Day Four goes first though, but it's a plan.

Also Roger, what are your thoughts on giving Law the tools?

If you read my vault 5 final thoughts topic and follow the vault 5 plan for day 4 I will be posting in here then I may frame rogers night 4 depending on what happens day 4.

Gaunt
June 30th, 2012, 12:21 PM
Plan for day 4 to get francine lynched (see vault five final thoughts francine is a threat)

1) ask francine about melon roulette

2) have me go balls to the walls pressing for her lynch and vote her up. I suspect yoshimitsu will vote with me

3) law you vote up francine immeadiatly after I do, that won't look suspicious cause you are suspicous

4) everyone else don't vote her but ask questions about it. Claus use your puppets to have a conversation with me and francine where we turn decide she is scummy

5) Everyone else gradually vote for Francine when you feel it is appropriate depending on what happens during the day.

This will create a strong bandwagon on francine

If francine gets lynched: Law kill Yoshimitsu and Nina clean Yoshimitsu and I will frame law

If francine doesn't get lynched: I will frame Rogers and he can claim sheriff to town and say he checked francine and got suspicous.

10 4 MOVE OUT

Klaus
June 30th, 2012, 12:24 PM
Remember the difference between Rodgers and Rogers, by the way. ;)

I'm not convinced you should push for a lynch tomorrow (at the very least, you'll need to wait a bit). Town is going to have the majority going into the surface so they're going to want as much information from each vault as they can get before deciding to do anything. You can try and push Francine, but most players will criticize you for not waiting to see what happened in each vault, who died, what role they were, special rule mechanics, who received what weapons, etc.

Gaunt
June 30th, 2012, 12:28 PM
Plan for day 4 to get francine lynched (see vault five final thoughts francine is a threat)

1) ask francine about melon roulette, wait until everyone has finished talking about what happened in the vaults and then

2)have me go balls to the walls pressing for her lynch and vote her up. I suspect yoshimitsu will vote with me

3) law you vote up francine immeadiatly after I do, that won't look suspicious cause you are suspicous

4) everyone else don't vote her but ask questions about it. Claus use your puppets to have a conversation with me and francine where we turn decide she is scummy

5) Everyone else gradually vote for Francine when you feel it is appropriate depending on what happens during the day.

This will create a strong bandwagon on francine

If francine gets lynched: Law kill Yoshimitsu and Nina clean Yoshimitsu and I will frame law

If francine doesn't get lynched: I will frame Rogers and he can claim sheriff to town and say he checked francine and got suspicous.

10 4 MOVE OUT

better?

Gaunt
June 30th, 2012, 12:31 PM
The reality is I am pretty sure Francine is not only brotherhood but knows that I am Enclave. If she isn't taken care of then I could easily end up dead which I would prefer to avoid. I think if she is brotherhood the brotherhood will probably try and nightkill me. If I get her lynched and she is brotherhood then I am the obvious wifom heal target which might just save me.

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June 30th, 2012, 03:28 PM
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