Day 1: Mr. Fixit

[Forum Mafia GM]

Good morning, rise and shine vault-dwellers, wake up and greet the next day of the rest of your lives!


I have been contacted by our dear new friends at the NCR and they've been complaining that none of y'all have been responding to their hails. In fact, I aint heard a peep out of ya! You know that Intercommy-thing on the wall? Speak near that once in a while, folks!


Anyway, an NCR column is currently on its way.


This is Roxy with Galaxy Radio, making your spurs jingle, jangle jingle...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RcJLOl1nPk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RcJLOl1nPk)

[Jin]

Hi guys...

[Jin]

Due to the fact that there was no actions taken N0, *Deep breath*
Let us begin the elections for technician and troll D1!

[Jin]

My guess for the actual role list:

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Neutral
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
Hidden Any ( Enclave/Brotherhood )
Hidden Any ( Killing )
Hidden Any ( Benign/NCR )

[Jabba]

I wonder if people actually know that Day 1 is up. I didn't know at first, I had to sign in my anon account.

[Boba]

Good Morning everyone! I am off to work and wont be on much for the next 9 hours.
But after that I will be here and we can all get down to work.
I would like to announce my candidacy for the position of Technician of Vault 37 for Night 1.
Ask yourself only this..... do YOU have a Boba Fett-ish?

[Jabba]

I would like to ask for candidacy for Vault 37 Technician.


I am not going to say I am a town power role, because that would be a lie. I am going to tell the truth about everything I can. If there are no other candidates that would gladly take up the role, I believe I should be it.

I am beneficial to everyone, and I mean everyone. A chance of me dying tonight is not good. I have no action at night, so I will not suffer from the role block. This is all beneficial for me, too, as I would be going immune. It's actually best for any power roles to avoid having technician, as that allows them to be role blocked.

I will not disclose my role now, as that's just not important or necessary at this time and point of the game.

I believe I should be technician tonight, it's for the greater good.

[Jabba]

Also, another thing I would like to point out...


The enclave will most likely be silent, yet not lurking.

Remember this.

[Ross]

Hallo!

[Ross]

lurk is bad

[Beru]

I would like to ask for candidacy for Vault 37 Technician.


I am not going to say I am a town power role, because that would be a lie. I am going to tell the truth about everything I can. If there are no other candidates that would gladly take up the role, I believe I should be it.

I am beneficial to everyone, and I mean everyone. A chance of me dying tonight is not good. I have no action at night, so I will not suffer from the role block. This is all beneficial for me, too, as I would be going immune. It's actually best for any power roles to avoid having technician, as that allows them to be role blocked.

I will not disclose my role now, as that's just not important or necessary at this time and point of the game.

I believe I should be technician tonight, it's for the greater good.

You should have just claimed, Mr. Overseer. If I could determine your role simply from glancing at your post, it's rather possible that the scum could have found it out just as easily. Either way, you have my vote.

Anyways, enough about the weaknesses of shadow claims, and onto the players of this vault. I checked profiles rather quickly, and it appears that Nina hasn't posted.

So, why haven't you posted, Nina?

[Yoda]

Good relations with the Wookies, I have.
Vote for Chewbacca, we should.

[Beru]

Good relations with the Wookies, I have.
Vote for Chewbacca, we should.

And who would that be? Lol.
I don't think Chewbacca is in this Vault.

[Yoda]

Confusion.
Yes. Yes. A flaw more and more common among Jedi. Too sure of themselves they are. Even the older, more experienced ones.

[Yoda]

Strong am I with the Force, but not that strong.
Yoda I am, fight I will.
Elect me I hope, you will.

[Jabba]

Strong am I with the Force, but not that strong.
Yoda I am, fight I will.
Elect me I hope, you will.

Stop staying in character.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Roxy still here, bringing you all the wasteland news you could possibly ask for!

I'm fairly bored tonight, so it looks like I'll be looking for some interviews to entertain myself. Y'all have been warned, Rox ouuttt.

[Jabba]

Roxy still here, bringing you all the wasteland news you could possibly ask for!

I'm fairly bored tonight, so it looks like I'll be looking for some interviews to entertain myself. Y'all have been warned, Rox ouuttt.

Roxy, why don't you ever go away? You were impossible to listen to 9 years ago, and you still are now!

just kedding i love foxy roxy.

















just kidding. i hate foxy roxy

[Boba]

And I am back from work!

I agree that Jabba should be voted for Technician tonight. However Jabba I wish you had not said exactly what you told us. You can only be voted Technician once and thus you are only invulnerable for one night. Whats stopping the evil ones from hitting you Night 2 or Night 3 now? Unless we have a doctor amongst us. In which case, think its obvious who you may want to heal starting night 2....

Now for the interviews! Let's get them going soon Roxy! Have a few I would love to hear from!

[Boba]

Also I found this interesting as I noticed it as well. Cannot quote from Day 0 but Han noticed and said this.

"lol is it just me or is Beru acting differently ever since he got his role "

It was post #203. Would like to hear why you never acknowledged the statement Beru and why the sudden tone of your post when you found out your role. So please, can you explain this to us?

[Beru]

And I am back from work!

I agree that Jabba should be voted for Technician tonight. However Jabba I wish you had not said exactly what you told us. You can only be voted Technician once and thus you are only invulnerable for one night. Whats stopping the evil ones from hitting you Night 2 or Night 3 now? Unless we have a doctor amongst us. In which case, think its obvious who you may want to heal starting night 2....

Now for the interviews! Let's get them going soon Roxy! Have a few I would love to hear from!

A new Technician must be voted for each day, and they will replace the old Technician. A player may be voted as the Technician multiple days in a row.

Good job spreading misinformation.


Also I found this interesting as I noticed it as well. Cannot quote from Day 0 but Han noticed and said this.

"lol is it just me or is Beru acting differently ever since he got his role "

It was post #203. Would like to hear why you never acknowledged the statement Beru and why the sudden tone of your post when you found out your role. So please, can you explain this to us?

I didn't respond to it, because it's pretty irrelevant. I'm using the exact same posting style that I always use, so, if you want to go after something silly to save your own hide, so be it.

However, would you like to explain why you're misinterpreting mechanics?

[Jabba]

You should have just claimed, Mr. Overseer. If I could determine your role simply from glancing at your post, it's rather possible that the scum could have found it out just as easily. Either way, you have my vote.

Anyways, enough about the weaknesses of shadow claims, and onto the players of this vault. I checked profiles rather quickly, and it appears that Nina hasn't posted.

So, why haven't you posted, Nina?


I will not confirm whether you are right or wrong, as everything is not what it seems.


And yes, hopefully I am voted to be technician multiple nights. I hope all of us get to the surface fine, even the Enclave. However, this most likely will not be the case. I also am pretty sure there is only 1 Enclave member, however, I could of course be wrong with that.


I just want to remind you all to make your votes official. You will learn more about me on the surface, IF I make it.

[Boba]

A new Technician must be voted for each day, and they will replace the old Technician. A player may be voted as the Technician multiple days in a row.

Good job spreading misinformation.



I didn't respond to it, because it's pretty irrelevant. I'm using the exact same posting style that I always use, so, if you want to go after something silly to save your own hide, so be it.

However, would you like to explain why you're misinterpreting mechanics?

"A new Technician must be voted for each day, and they will replace the old Technician. A player may be voted as the Technician multiple days in a row."

That is correct so Jabba should probably get the vote each night. However its not 100% confirmed that Jabba is the friendly role that he claims. Is there anything you can do Jabba that can be subjected as proof of your importance to the cause after Night 1 is over?

Also Beru, don't say " if you want to go after something silly to save your own hide, so be it" because that's a meaningless sentence. I re-asked the question that Han poised to you as your post/tone drastically changed when you found out your role early. I never said I suspected you as being evil. I gave you the opportunity to explain why your tone changed when you discovered your role early. A question that you have not answered as you find it "irrelevant." That is very troubling.

[Ross]

i feel like there is someone lurrrrrrkkkkiiiiinnnnnggggggg here.

[Boba]

Ross please start posting something of worth and not messages about others "lurking" over and over again, which in itself makes you a semi lurker.

[Jabba]

"A new Technician must be voted for each day, and they will replace the old Technician. A player may be voted as the Technician multiple days in a row."

That is correct so Jabba should probably get the vote each night. However its not 100% confirmed that Jabba is the friendly role that he claims. Is there anything you can do Jabba that can be subjected as proof of your importance to the cause after Night 1 is over?

Also Beru, don't say " if you want to go after something silly to save your own hide, so be it" because that's a meaningless sentence. I re-asked the question that Han poised to you as your post/tone drastically changed when you found out your role early. I never said I suspected you as being evil. I gave you the opportunity to explain why your tone changed when you discovered your role early. A question that you have not answered as you find it "irrelevant." That is very troubling.

I will not be doing anything.

You either believe me or you do not believe me. Can I guarantee to YOU that I will be able to prove I am for the town before we head to the surface? Nope.

Will I ever do anything to support that I am indeed what I claim until we reach the surface? Probably not.


However, I would appreciate it if I was technician until we get out of here alive. I'm not willing to risk the chance of me dying as I am something BENEFICIAL to EVERYONE.

It just makes sense, doesn't it?

As I said, you will learn about me as we reach the surface and everything is... well... noisier.

[Boba]

However, I would appreciate it if I was technician until we get out of here alive. I'm not willing to risk the chance of me dying as I am something BENEFICIAL to EVERYONE.



Does EVERYONE include you being beneficial to the Enclave?....

[Jabba]

Does EVERYONE include you being beneficial to the Enclave?....

I am going to leave this as unanswered.

What do you think?

[Boba]

I am beneficial to everyone, and I mean everyone.

I would like you to answer. Because EVERYONE, and if you mean EVERYONE, includes Enclave.

So please, answer.

[Jabba]

I would like you to answer. Because EVERYONE, and if you mean EVERYONE, includes Enclave.

So please, answer.

Oh man, this guy right here...

[Boba]

If you would like my vote you will answer the question Jabba. Its very simple. Stop dodging the question and just answer.

[Jabba]

If you would like my vote you will answer the question Jabba. Its very simple. Stop dodging the question and just answer.

No, what you REFUSE to accept is that I am not going to be answering any questions. You don't have to vote me. I am not answering any questions, understood? I'm sorry if this comes out as assholish statement, but it's the truth.

You don't have to vote me, and if you have decided to not, that's fine. Do I agree with that? Of course not.

I am not dodging your question. I am simply not answering it.


I answer your question, it will look strange for me not answering anything else.

Just do what you gotta do.

[Boba]

I am not answering any questions

LOL if Roxy ever interviews you and you have to answer.

Fair enough though. I will hold my vote to those who can help the NCR and the NCR only.


I am not going to say I am a town power role, because that would be a lie.

I would consider an Overseer to be a town power role myself.

We need more of you guys to become more vocal so we can determine the best possible technician tonight.

[Jabba]

LOL if Roxy ever interviews you and you have to answer.

Fair enough though. I will hold my vote to those who can help the NCR and the NCR only.



I would consider an Overseer to be a town power role myself.

We need more of you guys to become more vocal so we can determine the best possible technician tonight.

Very well.

And I would never have to be interviewed, as I will never lurk.

[Jabba]

LOL if Roxy ever interviews you and you have to answer.

Fair enough though. I will hold my vote to those who can help the NCR and the NCR only.



I would consider an Overseer to be a town power role myself.

We need more of you guys to become more vocal so we can determine the best possible technician tonight.

I am logging off, as It's late.


I just want to leave you with some advice.




Think about what I have been posting. Try to envision yourself doing it, too. WIFOM, I should say.

Good night.

[Beru]

why the sudden tone of your post.
This is also "meaningless", as you would say. I don't see how my tone changed, really. I was pretty consistent throughout the day. If you specify how my tone changed, I'll gladly try to answer. Otherwise, I'm pretty confused what you're getting at.

I'm aware that Jabba isn't necessarily town, I consider it somewhat likely that he's a Student or something, and that's why I'd like him voted today, such that he's roleblocked and can't pull a fast one.

I don't see why an evil role would choose to do this, however. If I read correctly, he is not detection immune, so it wouldn't make much sense unless Jabba is a very cunning and fat Hutt.

Anyways, Yoda, why would you like to be the technician?

[Boba]

Beru you are wise beyond the length of your name. Good reasoning.

Beru would YOU like to be a candidate for Technician?

[Brostin]

Lmfao it took me like 20 years to figure out where the fawk the vault was lmao... so I guess we still dont get roles until n1 eh?

[Brostin]

lmfao n/m just got message xD

[Boba]

lmfao n/m just got message xD

I smell a troll.....

[Beru]

Beru you are wise beyond the length of your name. Good reasoning.

Beru would YOU like to be a candidate for Technician?

I'm not opposed to it, but I'm personally voting for Jabba. I'd like to find out what's at the bottom of his gambit.

I don't mean to toot my own horn or anything, but I'd probably make more sense than the alternate candidate Yoda, at least until he stops roleplaying as his name theme. (Nothing wrong with roleplaying to the Fallout theme, though. :p I'm playing through FO2 again, so I can feel nice and fresh.)

[Jin]

I nominate myself for technician.
I won't (really) suffer from the technician RB, although if someone else feels they need the immunity for the night more than me, you're welcome to contest.

Putting WIFOM aside, the best person to nominate would be an actionless role(citizen/overseer)/passive power role(dreamer/gypsy/...).

Including WIFOM, everyone will want to be a technician, regardless of RB.

[Yoda]

Anyways, Yoda, why would you like to be the technician?

You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, NEVER for attack.

Joined the Dark Side Jabba has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now.

Jin's post seems good. But I have a feeling that he will be a good technician not.
Explain my reasons later, I will. Hmmmmmm.

[Yoda]

Like you to vote for me, I would. The perfect role for being the technician, have I.
I, able to explain it to you later, will be.

[Jabba]

You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, NEVER for attack.

Joined the Dark Side Jabba has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now.

Jin's post seems good. But I have a feeling that he will be a good technician not.
Explain my reasons later, I will. Hmmmmmm.

Jin just copied what I said but changed the wording.

[Jin]

I propose we obtain a consensus on whom to vote technician by voting in yellow

[Jin]

My vote goes for Yoda tonight, because Jabba seems like a survivor to me....

vote Yoda

GM, can non-killing roles still target the technician?
Can we secret vote ourselves for technician?

[Forum Mafia GM]

GM, can non-killing roles still target the technician?
Correct. If a killing role targets the technician, they will be informed that they found their target performing vital maintenance work and decided to leave them alone.

Can we secret vote ourselves for technician?
Yes, self-votes are allowed in this game, even in the secret ballot.

Going into the vault FAQ.

[Jabba]

vote Jabba

[Jin]

Honestly, between a seemingly neutral role and a RP-addicted player, i'd go for RP.
I would certainly prefer a third choice, but as my options are limited....

[Jin]

Current presumed role list

Hidden Enclave
Hidden Mafia (Enclave/Brotherhood of steel)

Hidden Neutral (Benign)
Hidden Neutral (Killing)

Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Hidden NCR
Citizen
NCR role(Citizen/power)

[Boba]

Yes, Jabba seems very Survivor to me as well. I have already secretly unvoted Jabba for tech and suggest to everyone to re-read all of todays posts and choose who you think is the best choice for Tech. If its yourself, then so be it. Ties are broken by a random pick I believe so that may work out best.

See you all after work in a few hours.

-Fett

[Jabba]

Yes, Jabba seems very Survivor to me as well. I have already secretly unvoted Jabba for tech and suggest to everyone to re-read all of todays posts and choose who you think is the best choice for Tech. If its yourself, then so be it. Ties are broken by a random pick I believe so that may work out best.

See you all after work in a few hours.

-Fett



I will give you of a hint of my role.

I am the Mafia's main target.

I win or lose for the town, nothing else.

[Jabba]

Yes, Jabba seems very Survivor to me as well. I have already secretly unvoted Jabba for tech and suggest to everyone to re-read all of todays posts and choose who you think is the best choice for Tech. If its yourself, then so be it. Ties are broken by a random pick I believe so that may work out best.

See you all after work in a few hours.

-Fett

If I die before we make it to the surface, we can all put the blame on you, as you would deserve it.

I dying will be the biggest impact for the town, and we may end up losing before the game has really started.

[Boba]

Work is slow. Able to check on the game.

Blame it on yourself for not staying undercover. Its far to early to be so trusting as to do a role reveal as you have. Can only blame yourself. You also said your not a power role, but am now saying your the mafias main target. I am not a fan of your games or back tracking to try and get the tech vote. Sorry Mr. Hutt.

[Chandler]

Sorry, I didn't check the vault for the day 1 thread, so I haven't been posting. Anyway...

I'm sheriff. Doctor heal me. Just a heads up...

[Jabba]

Work is slow. Able to check on the game.

Blame it on yourself for not staying undercover. Its far to early to be so trusting as to do a role reveal as you have. Can only blame yourself. You also said your not a power role, but am now saying your the mafias main target. I am not a fan of your games or back tracking to try and get the tech vote. Sorry Mr. Hutt.


I agree.

[Boba]

-vote Chandler
That's not a tech vote. That's a bote to lynch. Call bullshit all over his sheriff reveal.

[Beru]

I agree.

That's a weird reply, so I'll be voting for Yoda. I'm guessing he might be a dreamer, so he's a pretty darn good choice.

-vote Yoda

[Chandler]

That's a weird reply, so I'll be voting for Yoda. I'm guessing he might be a dreamer, so he's a pretty darn good choice.

-vote Yoda

Use the color cyan to vote!

[Forum Mafia GM]

Use the color cyan to vote!

Now Roxy isn't one of the cats in this vault, but even Roxy knows everyone is using the colour Yellow to symbolise their secret ballot vote (which is sent in via PM).

Cyan is for the lynch, dawg!

[Jabba]

That's a weird reply, so I'll be voting for Yoda. I'm guessing he might be a dreamer, so he's a pretty darn good choice.

-vote Yoda

It's a weird reply, sure.

I give up.

I'm dead tonight.

[Beru]

Use the color cyan to vote!

I don't usually believe in Day 1 lynches, but it sure seems like you're trying.

Are you a jester, silly?

[Chandler]

I am not a jester. Doc on the sheriff (me).

I'll check Jabba tomorrow.

[Ross]

I am voting for beru. He seems much more pro town than Jabba or Yoda. It's hard to get a read Yoda and I doubt he will be targetted by the mafia tonight. Like the others have said, I doubt that Jabba is town. He claims that he is the mafia's primary target and will win or lose for the town. I would rather elect someone like Beru to be the technician. He seems a lot more like town than the other two candidates. I am reserving my opinions about Jin until I see more posts from him.

[Yoda]

It's hard to get a read Yoda and I doubt he will be targetted by the mafia tonight.

Reveal information yet, I cannot. But explain myself in the future I will.

[Boba]

To be honest, isn't it a better ploy to vote who we think the mafia member is to become Tech? That way he/she cannot kill us at night or damage us in anyway. That way we're all safe. If we vote someone tech and no one dies/nothing bad happens, we have our high likely mafia member.

Just a thought. But a good one!

[Nina]

Hi guys, sorry for being absent these past days, I'm currently having access to the internet at very limited times, something that will be rectified soon enough. You could probably figure out my identity just from that, oh well:3
To me, Jabba seems pretty desperate to survive, and the mafia would catch on to that by now. Either he is really very important and should be protected, or he is trying to take a bullet by acting pro-town but not enough to be really chosen technitian. I think he should be WIFOM/protected by the doctor, and someone else should be chosen technitian.
Right not Beru seems like a good choice to me, but I need to observe some more to make a final decision. Yoda is too trolly imo, and not very useful other than entertain us with his roleplay

[Chandler]

To be honest, isn't it a better ploy to vote who we think the mafia member is to become Tech? That way he/she cannot kill us at night or damage us in anyway. That way we're all safe. If we vote someone tech and no one dies/nothing bad happens, we have our high likely mafia member.

Just a thought. But a good one!

That sounds like a good plan. Perhaps DJ Roxy tell the other vaults our plan?

(Not likely, but it's an idea.)

And Nina, look at the post above you before you vote.

[Chandler]

I'm thinking it might be Jabba considering how much he thinks mafia will target him. On the one hand, if he isn't mafia, he'll at least survive, and on the other hand, if he's a member of the Enclave, we'll have the whole vault to ourselves for Day 3.

[Boba]

Jin and Chandler are the two people who I trust the least right now. Chandler for the almost a sure thing fake Sheriff call and Jin is just a hunch.

[Beru]

To be honest, isn't it a better ploy to vote who we think the mafia member is to become Tech? That way he/she cannot kill us at night or damage us in anyway. That way we're all safe. If we vote someone tech and no one dies/nothing bad happens, we have our high likely mafia member.

Just a thought. But a good one!

It's a valid option, which is why I initially didn't see much harm in voting Jabba, as his gambit would cause him to become roleblocked if he was less than savory. The ploy isn't perfect, though. I could imagine the mafia doing something silly and not killing for WIFOM purposes to throw off the town.

I think that protecting someone is of equal merit, which is why I've shifted to Yoda. I wouldn't mind being protected myself, though. :shy:

[Chandler]

Another idea is that if there's a lurker in the vault, we could do the Free-lynch vote for the day and kill our Enclave if there's no death. If the Free-lynch fails, we kill the technician for Night 1.

[Chandler]

Also, I might or might not be the sheriff as I claim. Enclave could remove one of their most dangerous threats tonight, but they may also be wasting their time on a completely useless man.

Really, the reason I've been so quick to reveal, is to cause WIFOM confusion among the Enclave.

[Ross]

Also, I might or might not be the sheriff as I claim. Enclave could remove one of their most dangerous threats tonight, but they may also be wasting their time on a completely useless man.

Really, the reason I've been so quick to reveal, is to cause WIFOM confusion among the Enclave.

Well now that you have explained your motive, isn't it kinda pointless?

[Yoda]

Vote for me you will, I hope.

Non-Yoda: I really hope that you will vote for me. I am very important for town, but I have to survive the night first. If I don't get protected and Mr. Red tells his mates to kill me... my gambit would be horrible.

On a side note: Chandler says so many weird things :weird:

[Boba]

More and more I am thinking Jin looks like our best bet as the mafia member. Tonight I am either voting for myself, Beru or Jin.

Beru sounds like an experienced mafia player and is someone who knows exactly what he or she is doing. Which also scares me the most, as he/she may not be friendly. I'm willing to bet right now that Beru is good and should be voted tech.

Jin I believe is the best guess for mafia. (As well as one can guess on day 1). I believe a vote for him would keep us safe as he would be roleblocked.

Any vote for jabba at this point is useless. Even if jabba survives until night 3, the mafia will kill him on night 4 due to his "I'm the mafias main target" reveal. If he cannot help down on day/night 1-3 then he should not be protected. He will drop Night 4 as there will no longer be tech votes after we leave our Vault.

[Nina]

Using technitian as a majority decided roleblock, huh...
This could help us gather information faster, and this early on it would indeed not protect anyone since mafia would simply choose somebody else to kill, and since we're so many they would have a lot of choices.
Your idea sounds good enough, as long as nobody is confirmed, its probably better to block the mafia candidates. I support it.

[Boba]

Again, why the day 1 reveal Yoda? What is going to keep you from being killed Night 4 now? Basically nothing besides a doctor (if we have one alive).

You can be protown, important protown, and not whore your importance out to get votes!

That makes two "I am VERY important to the towns survival" all on day 1.

Not good.

[Nina]

Boba, you're forgetting that it could work both ways, i.e they're not that important really, and take a bullet for someone who really is.

[Ross]

I will be back in an hour.

[Boba]

I am going to secret ballot vote for JIN as I believe him to be mafia. If no deaths occure tonight, that is very telling. Suggest everyone choose JIN as well please and thank you. Have to start being organized.

Remember, use the Tech vote to roleblock the mafia, not to protect a major town person. We roleblock the mafia, then EVERYONE is protected.

[Yoda]

I completely agree with Boba on Jin

-vote Jin

[Yoda]

Why do you think that we are save when we block ONE !possible! mafia player?
Just pressure/lynch him.

[Chandler]

I'm glad that there are other people thinking like me.

[Beru]

I completely agree with Boba on Jin

-vote Jin

If we're going to lynch anyone today, Chandler's probably a better choice. He's pretty crazy, lol.

[Yoda]

Hidden Enclave GUESS #1
Hidden Neutral GUESS #1
Hidden NCR - Yoda. That's a claim.
Hidden NCR - Jabba. Tries to luck important/scummy.
Hidden NCR - GUESS #1
Citizen - Nina. Lurker.
Hidden Any - Neutral/Mafia: Jin. He tries too much to be NCR.
Hidden Any - Neutral: Ross. Complains about lurkers, isn't active at all. Jester/Ghost/Survivor/???
Hidden Any - Chandler. This guy is so retarded, can't explain that.

GUESS #1: Beru/Boba/Brostin

Yes I believe that 1 of them belongs to the enclave. Boba and Beru seem to be experienced players, Brostin will get interviewed I hope.

[Nina]

Chandler has a good point, and he is creative about scumhunting like a town would be.
That doesn't mean anything, but why lynch him? There is no good reason to

[Yoda]

Hidden NCR - Jabba. Tries to look* important/scummy.

[Yoda]

Nina UPDATE: This guy is so retarded, can't explain that.

[Yoda]

Beru: What do you think about Boba and Jin?

[Beru]

Beru: What do you think about Boba and Jin?

Well, Boba is pretty interesting. He's buddying with a few people, while he has a few focused targets. I can't necessarily disagree with his choices, other than the fact that they almost seem too easy/obvious. This isn't necessarily a scum type of behavior, but it could be. I'm not totally sure of his alignment, but I don't have enough reason to see him as scum.

Jin, as I said, is doing some pretty classic scum plays. He's lurking and posting rolelists without much explanation or thought behind them. With that said, I'm beginning to think he might be a better lynch than full retard Chandler. However, Nina is displaying some similar behaviors, so I might just be getting this idea from their low post counts.

[Nina]

What's so retarded about what I do?

[Jabba]

Got a idea.

Why not vote Jin up for technician? If there is no kill, we keep doing it. I'm positive there is only 1 mafia in this vault, not sure why Yoda believes there are 2.

Now, if we perhaps do role block Jin and the Mafia no kills, we do it again. This will clear somebody of mafia(most likely)..

If there are no kills at 3 nights, then of course Jin will be suspicious then.

What do you guys think? I'm just throwing out there.

[Yoda]

3 hidden any.
What if mafia doesn't kill to get Jin lynched?
3 days aren't that much.

And a very important question: Why do you think that our enclave member here is able to kill someone?

[Ross]

i'm back baby

[Beru]

3 hidden any.
What if mafia doesn't kill to get Jin lynched?
3 days aren't that much.

And a very important question: Why do you think that our enclave member here is able to kill someone?

I brought up that point earlier, thanks for noticing it, too.

And, you've got a good point, so, I'll ask the GM.

Can the mafia teams kill within our vault? How would it work?

[Chandler]

Even if there isn't a killing Enclave member, there is still a neutral player in here, so he might be a killer too.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Can the mafia teams kill within our vault? How would it work?
- Vault 37 is treated as its own individual game; a single member of each mafia team may choose to skip their night action to be sent to kill someone, if they are eligible.

[Ross]

after reading the thread i have decided that the chances of Jin being mafia is not low. But the fact that he wants to be tech and that he's not speaking out against us voting him strikes me as strange. Perhaps there is another mafia member in the vault with us? Maybe that's why he wants tech in the first place? Just a thought. I'll vote Jin anyway.

[Boba]

I understand for a secret vote we won't be able to see who voted for who, but will we be able to see how many votes each person got? To see if three people who promise to vote for someone actually follow through with their vote?

[Forum Mafia GM]

I understand for a secret vote we won't be able to see who voted for who, but will we be able to see how many votes each person got? To see if three people who promise to vote for someone actually follow through with their vote?

Nope, there will be no feedback of any kind. Only the Technician and anyone who tries to kill him will know.

[Beru]

I understand for a secret vote we won't be able to see who voted for who, but will we be able to see how many votes each person got? To see if three people who promise to vote for someone actually follow through with their vote?

Nope, there will be no feedback of any kind. Only the Technician and anyone who tries to kill him will know.

If I'm reading this correctly, it makes most sense to vote for someone who you believe is town. I won't state my vote with these circumstances, because it's more likely that scum will misfire this way. I suggest others do the same.

Voting Jin may have some use, but it would require a unique sort of pressuring to work. Unless someone comes up with a convincing argument for roleblocking him, I'll choose "randomly" among those I believe to be town-aligned targets not affected by a roleblock.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Well howdy there folks!

Roxy here, just to wish y'all a good night! Feeling a little bit of country music this fine evening will send you off to sleep nicely.

I see on my security monitors that there's some trouble brewing with the pipes in your water treatment room, better send someone down there stat!

In the mean time, here's the story of Texas Red and that good ol' Arizona Ranger... good night!


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