M-FM IX Gamethread

[McJesus]

All the world's a stage and all the people merely players. Welcome to the eighth mini forum mafia where you will have to pit your wits against others in order to determine who is your ally and who is your enemy before it is too late. Some players may be new, some will be old but all will be vying for forum mafia glory. Can you claim the prize of most valuable player? Disappointed you rolled citizen? put your analytic skills to the test and go for the best citizen award. Remember your lives depend on your victory so play wisely.

Random Awesome Music of the Day:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYIW5fYQmg8

Role List:

Final Boss (Godfather)
Mafioso
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Evil Neutral
Evil Neutral
Benign Neutral
Benign Neutral
Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Booster
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Player List:
01. Duzero
02. Ubernox
03. Blazer
04. Gingerape
05. Borkbot
06. Clementine
07. Carolina Crown
08. Shaded
09. Mopin
10. Ajeki
11. Sumiko
12. Escaho
13. Sinclair
14. Rihfok
15. Brendan
16. Luna
17. Cryptonic
18. SirBlayzalot
19. Dust
20. CmG

There is NO LYNCH today. Day will end at http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Toronto+Ontario+10%3A30+PM.+Tuesday+May+22+2012 or earlier if everyone posts at least once.

[Shaded]

Yesssssssss. Foreigner. You speaky my language.

[CmG]

inb4 Duzero is gf

[CmG]

Oh and hi

[CmG]

... and bye.

[Brendan]

Looks like I checked back at just the right time! Gl hf everyone. ^.^

[Sumikoko]

Hey guys. Sumi here. CmG be trying to not be scummy by calling out his own teammates. Pro. :D

[clementine]

Hi everyone!!
*yawn*
brand new day

By sumi's logic, she's also trying not to be scummy by calling out her own teammates!
Scum right there!! :O

[clementine]

Can't fool me sumikokoko. I am on to you.

[Shaded]

But clem, by your own logic (which is also Sumi's logic... COINCIDENCE?) that makes you scum for ratting out Sumi. Adding everyone to my scum list!


And grab your broomsticks, because I'm officially declaring shenanigans.

[Ubernox]

No comment.

[Escaho]

Hi everyone!!
*yawn*
brand new day

By sumi's logic, she's also trying not to be scummy by calling out her own teammates!
Scum right there!! :O

Remember, I'll know if you're scum by Day 3! Better kill me quick! =p

[Luna]

Morning all. Let's have a nice friendly game with no deaths. On day 2 we can sign a petition and ask McPwnage for a EVERYBODY WINS scenario where we all eat candy.

[BorkBot]

I totally agree with Luna's plan. Let's all be pacifists and vote to lynch McPwnage on day 2 so when he gets lynched he can no longer post in day/night threads and none of us dies.

Don't try to kill the panda either. They're a protected species and should be bodyguarded.

[Mopin]

Hello.

Don't kill me.

[BorkBot]

Actually I think I might as well claim. I'm Town Amnesiac. Investigate me and you'll see that the pairing fits.

If I were a booster, I wouldn't make a very good night one kill target because I could be randomly boosting a mafia player (not gonna happen though because I wouldn't be using my ability anyway).

If I were a Soul Thief, I'd be a royal idiot for claiming already and a sheriff could find me tonight (feel free to check, I'll turn up innocent. I can't be framed neutral evil yet). You also wouldn't be able to get a kill by shooting me tonight because I'd have an immunity vest.

If I were an Arsonist, I'd be a royal idiot for claiming already and a sheriff could find me tonight (feel free to check, I'll turn up innocent. I can't be framed neutral evil yet). You also wouldn't be able to get a kill by shooting me tonight because I'd have an immunity vest.

If I were a Mafia Amnesiac, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between town and mafia until an investigator levels up 4 times (good luck with that! lol). A consigliere obviously wouldn't tell the town about it, or he would lie.

As a Town Amnesiac, a consigliere wouldn't be able to tell the difference until he levels up 4 times and by that time I may have chosen a role in case someone wants to be a jerk and kill me while my goal is to survive.

So here's what I'm gonna do:
I will play the part of survivor and I'm not really going to try to scum hunt very hard (though I may do it a little bit because the game is boring to me otherwise, so scum should try not to be too obvious or I will unmask them anyway. Bad scum players deserve to get lynched). I will not vote anyone unless they can be hammered, in which case I'll do it without question.

So basically I'm a neutral and I'm everyone's friend unless they decide to be jerks and kill me early to stop me from winning for no other reason than to screw me over.

If there's a mason leader, please recruit me to prove I'm not a citizen. Thanks.

[Unknown User]

don't worry guys, i'll check Duzero n1 to make sure he's not gf

p.s. sup

[Ubernox]

I vow to avenge the Tycoons.

[BorkBot]

I vow to avenge the Tycoons.

Ok WITCH!

[Unknown User]

OK GUYS.
We'll start lynching at #1. Duzero and move down the list.

Killers will start at #20. CmG and move up the list.

sounds like a plan???

[Ubernox]

lollol lynch red maifa lolulz

[clementine]

BorkBot is scummy for wanting to waste a Mason Leader recruit just to prove he's not a citizen.
Unless he is trying to WIFOM town amnesiac as citizen, which I still find scummy, as it only serves to help mislead the town when trying to determine neutral roles.

In any case, I have once again gotten my favorite role ever! I am Citizen. Since nobody else has openly claimed, I have decided to do so. Feel free to choose between either me or BorkBot for recruiting tonight. If they exist in this setup, I feel I have much to offer the Masons and will happily share my notes, etc. I believe I can be a great asset for town, and I hope my reputation will allow me to soak up a bullet at night.

Because there is an interceptor in this game, I believe it wise to offer two potential recruitment targets for the Mason Leader to help keep him safe.

xoxo Clementine

[BorkBot]

Ok guys all citizens claim today

1... 2... 3... GO!

[BorkBot]

Just out of curiosity, how do you know there's an interceptor in the game anyways? Ubernox has already claimed witch so there's only one spot left for a mafia.

[Ubernox]

I'm a citizen. Don't lynch me omgwtf nboob town wtf

[BorkBot]

Ok Ubernox is godmother we lynch him tmoz.

[Luna]

I've decided that I'm going to say something.

I don't think McPwnage randomed my role, he made me a Veteran. I suspect he thought there might be some epic lulz if I got visited by a whole bunch of people tonight.

I thought it was funny but I'd like to try hard in this game since it will be my last for a little while. I don't want to risk a bunch of Town PRs dying on night 1. Instead, I think I'll use this opportunity to be a useful town player who has some kind of in-built protection - if scum want to chance it they can go ahead.

Now what we need now are some jokes and limericks for troll day!

I say we play 5-word story. We all create a story together, but you can only contribute 5 words at a time, and someone else must continue the story before you contribute again. The story has to be in italics.

The mafia boss smiled, wickedly.

[Ubernox]

I think we should inves Luna tonight.

[BorkBot]

Claiming veteran was so sneaky

[Luna]

said Borkbot, the Mafia Amnesiac.

[BorkBot]

None would ever suspect her

[BorkBot]

Please enable post count for the MFM boards... we should be able to get several hundred doing this alone :p

[Luna]

or fear her. This game

[BorkBot]

was rigged by divine intervention.

[BorkBot]

Oops, that was supposed to be italic.

was rigged by divine intervention.

[Luna]

Elsewhere in the town, a

[BorkBot]

buffoon prayed to McJesus for

[Ubernox]

a solemn seed of succour for the sweet succubus,

[Unknown User]

can vigilante shoot n1, or do I have to wait until tomorrow night?

[Shaded]

As yet more scum pretended

[CmG]

haha already found a loop hole in this game dumdidumdidum :)

[Ubernox]

I bet you haven't.

[Luna]

Pray tell us, CmG :D

Also I hope we see some Default as the random music of the day ^^

to be elephants, the Sheriff

[CmG]

I just found a major flaw in this game. Already told Mcsausage about it. Wonder how he reacts. Dumdidum =)

[CmG]

Now gimme your gold in D3 on EU have to buy EPIXX for my lvl 15 Monk. Go Go!

[McJesus]

can vigilante shoot n1, or do I have to wait until tomorrow night?

vigi cannot shoot night 1

[Unknown User]

As yet more scum pretended

are YOU talking to ME?!

I'm the scum of all fears.

I'm just a lowly citizen trying to take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be a citizen so that I won't take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be pretending to be a citizen so that I will take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be a citizen so that i won't take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be a citizen so that I will take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be a citizen so that I won't take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be a citizen so that I will take a hit for a town PR.
or maybe i'm pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be a citizen so that I won't take a hit for a town PR.



You guys know what is a weird word...?
"pretending" <- IS THIS REAL?????


i'll never tell
xoxo - gossip girl

[CmG]

Meanwhile in a fucking dessert.

LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...


AHHHHHHHHHH'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Unknown User]

Meanwhile in a fucking dessert.

LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...
LOOK MORE HIDDEN FOOTPRINTS! ...


AHHHHHHHHHH'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was stuck at this part. WHICH WAY ARE THE FEET FACING!?! I couldn't decide if I should go north or south, so I just uninstalled the game.

[CmG]

Yeah right and i am the doctor who will suicide tonight on luna. Or i am the meta scum who shots somebody who is smart tonight.

[Unknown User]

-reveal

Cryptonic, the Mayor, has revealed himself!

come at me bro

[CmG]

-shoot CmG

[Unknown User]

-shoot CmG

i like u

[CmG]

I sell thing for cheap, because I will just take them of your body again when you are dead. No offense

[BorkBot]

Can a mason leaderp convert soul thieved shitizens of all alignments to masons?

of Nottingham caught Robin of

[McJesus]

Can a mason leaderp convert soul thieved shitizens of all alignments to masons?

of Nottingham caught Robin of

No you aren't actually a citizen, just you have no abilities but you are the same role.

[Ubernox]

What is this loophole? Will you tell us once you have taken steps to rectify it?

balboa, who verily voraciously eViscerated his vampire's viceroy.

[CmG]

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/0c/0c83fa043edad05ea590510d437534e15442cf45_full.jpg

There is no loop hole you fool! Only scum wants to know loopholes to abuse the game into their favor!

-vote Ubernox

[Sumikoko]

I've decided that I'm going to say something.

I don't think McPwnage randomed my role, he made me a Veteran. I suspect he thought there might be some epic lulz if I got visited by a whole bunch of people tonight.


:D Inb4 Luna only says this because she always gets killed off the first day or two.

In all honesty, though, if all these claims are true, this probably set a record for most number of real role claims on Day 1.

[clementine]

I was about to call Luna out for claiming veteran because veteran going on alert isn't in the order of operations.... But then I realized that veteran is always on alert in this setup.

If Mafia has a witch, they will likely test out the veteran claim by witching someone to visit Luna tonight. If there is a witch, I doubt there would also be an interceptor. Based on what happens tonight, we should be able to start narrowing down mafia roles and neutral roles tomorrow.

[Sumikoko]

If Mafia has a witch, they will likely test out the veteran claim by witching someone to visit Luna tonight. If there is a witch, I doubt there would also be an interceptor. Based on what happens tonight, we should be able to start narrowing down mafia roles and neutral roles tomorrow.

Oh good grief, I didn't even think about that. I can almost guarantee one of the evil neutrals is a serial killer or arsonist. With a soul thief on the side. If scum has 3 KPN in this game, then we're doomed.

[CmG]

I hope we have even more kpn. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR! :D

[Escaho]

I roleclaim Godfather! Might as well join in, right?!?!

Don't stab me, bro!

I'm clearly NOT a Citizen masquerading as a PR whose claiming a scum role in order to take a bullet for the town at night. Who would be so stupid as to admit to doing that on Day One?

[Escaho]

Chances of Luna being a Veteran are slim to none.

And Sumi, let's be honest, as long as I'm alive in the game, you're as good as dead, Lol.

In before clementine is actual Godfather claiming to be a Citizen. Oh wait...



In any case, I have once again gotten my favorite role ever! I am Citizen.

[Blazer]

tl;dr
hai gaiz.
sumi i like ur signature!!!!!!!!!!!!!
k bai

[Sumikoko]

And Sumi, let's be honest, as long as I'm alive in the game, you're as good as dead, Lol.

:D You want to bet on that again, Escaho?

And thanks, Blazer. I don't think it turned out nearly as well as my last one, but it'll do. :p

[ajkei]

I roleclaim Godfather! Might as well join in, right?!?!

Don't stab me, bro!

I'm clearly NOT a Citizen masquerading as a PR whose claiming a scum role in order to take a bullet for the town at night. Who would be so stupid as to admit to doing that on Day One?

I think what you should really do is claim every single role in the game day one.

You won't get killed.

Trust me.

[Sinclair]

Well hi there.

[Luna]

I hope Yuffie is in this game.

[CmG]

I think what you should really do is claim every single role in the game day one.

You won't get killed.

Trust me.

I see what u did there.

[CmG]

what where whois false truth?

[Blazer]

hhmmmm.....join the dark side. I have cookies.

[Gingerape]

hhmmmm.....join the dark side. I have cookies.

I wanna join you hun...
FM i almost done, that means we're getting..umm...married soon ^_^

[clementine]

I believe there is likely to be a soul thief in this setup to interact with the level up mechanics, as well as a serial killer/arsonist to increase the KPN. Even so, I think it's good to behave as if there could still be a cult/masons in this game.

I haven't played any "traditional cult/mason" games here where the masons haven't completely been revealed since D1 (M-FM VII) or the mechanic was weird (FM-XII). In any case, if there is one, Mason Leader should NOT reveal their presence, and should stealth recruit people each night in order to setup a network of confirmed town roles. I won't believe any mason claims until I am in the masons, as I think it would be just as easy for members of the mafia to claim masons, although such claims can easily be proven/disproven better than in the M-FM VII setup, at least in the case of cult trying to fake mason.

Tomorrow, regardless of what happens, I shall neither confirm nor deny being recruited by the masons, and I urge anyone else who is asked to say the same.

[Shaded]

In other news Gingerape's new sig kinda freaks me out. But I like it.

[CarolinaCrown]

Wheddup

[Shaded]

Point proven. That is all.

Back on topic: Who has yet to check in today?

[McJesus]

night was delayed due to me having a social life, it will end at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Toronto+Ontario+1%3A00am.+Thursday+May+24+2012



night action submissions are due an hour before the end of the night or they will be skipped

[McJesus]

Cmg was last seen in a rage. He had been rolled citizen and was jokingly trying to find a loophole that would allow him to reroll as a power role. He looked at the rolecard "random.org hates you!" and laughed knowing that if he just said that one line every cit would know he was confirmed. He laughed as he had found a loophole to the game only to be told the rolecards were in the FAQ thread for all to be seen. That was the last anyone saw of CmG, he was terminated.

CmG did not leave a last will.

Random Awesome Music of The Day:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6VqUbfkMkE

Role List:

Final Boss (Godfather)
Mafioso
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Evil Neutral
Evil Neutral
Benign Neutral
Benign Neutral
Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Booster
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Player List:
01. Duzero
02. Ubernox
03. Blazer
04. Gingerape
05. Borkbot
06. Clementine
07. Carolina Crown
08. Shaded
09. Mopin
10. Ajeki
11. Sumiko
12. Escaho
13. Sinclair
14. Goremancer
15. Brendan
16. Luna
17. Cryptonic
18. SirBlayzalot
19. Rocshi

Graveyard:
CmG (citizen) - Died Night 1

It will take 10 votes to lynch. Day will end at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Toronto+Ontario+11%3A30AM+Saturday+May+26+2012 or when majority decide to skip!

Rifolk is at risk of being replaced!

[Unknown User]

Good morning everyone.

It felt so good when I did it with my penis.

There is Consort/Escort/Drug Dealer.
But i'm betting against Drug Dealer. Probably Escort/Consort

[Sinclair]

Well hi there.

[Unknown User]

Well hi there.

oh hey u

[Unknown User]

RIP CmG... Taking a hit for PRs day 1.
Dying like a champ.
May you live forever in our hearts.

[Duzero]

Today I will not forget to post.

[BorkBot]

Good morning everyone.

It felt so good when I did it with my penis.

There is Consort/Escort/Drug Dealer.
But i'm betting against Drug Dealer. Probably Escort/Consort

Why are you "betting against" a drug dealer?

You lookin' for trouble?

[BorkBot]

Clementine the godmother ordered CmG's death for calling her a smurf. You guys should pressure her.

I want a carrot.

[Unknown User]

Why are you "betting against" a drug dealer?

You lookin' for trouble?

oh, no sir!
i just been roleblockded sir, and I has just thinkin that Drug Dealer wouldn't fake rb someone night one incase I was an investigatitor, sir! cause then i would have founded out that they was in the game, sir!

*insert cute picture of kitten here*

[Unknown User]

Clementine the godmother ordered CmG's death for calling her a smurf. You guys should pressure her.

I want a carrot.

I'm in charge of the mafia apparently:

Day 1:
Cryptonic: OK GUYS.
We'll start lynching at #1. Duzero and move down the list.

Killers will start at #20. CmG and move up the list.

sounds like a plan???


----------

should we... lynch... him...?

[BorkBot]

If you can get a train on him I'll hammer it as promised.

[Shaded]

Morning folks, had a nice quiet night myself.

[Shaded]

I'm in charge of the mafia apparently:

Day 1:
Cryptonic: OK GUYS.
We'll start lynching at #1. Duzero and move down the list.

Killers will start at #20. CmG and move up the list.

sounds like a plan???


----------

should we... lynch... him...?

Hoping to get a random lynch already? Interesting. =P

[Duzero]

Cryptonic you should be careful with what you say, someone less understanding might take is as a threat.

[Unknown User]

Hoping to get a random lynch already? Interesting. =P

Notice how I haven't -vote yet :P

[Unknown User]

Cryptonic you should be careful with what you say, someone less understanding might take is as a threat.

Just pointing out an observation, my good sir.
I can assure you I am no threat.
After all, with my logic, i'm dead night 4.

[Duzero]

Just pointing out an observation, my good sir.
I can assure you I am no threat.
After all, with my logic, i'm dead night 4.

That is plenty of time to douse people...

Can you burn before getting killed (jailor is an exception)?

[Unknown User]

That is plenty of time to douse people...

Can you burn before getting killed (jailor is an exception)?

I love how defensive you're getting at a joke.
and how you try to draw attention to me for being an arsonist now lol.
Congratulations, you've made my scum list. =)

[BorkBot]

You see that mafia? Rihfok the gay knight has night action (kinky)

You'd better kill him!

[Sinclair]

Is using Duzero's question as evidence (Arsonist, if he is) considered meta-gaming? And is meta-gaming illegal in this MFM?

[BorkBot]

Is using Duzero's question as evidence (Arsonist, if he is) considered meta-gaming? And is meta-gaming illegal in this MFM?

Why would it be metagaming and how is it evidence? It only suggests that he thinks there's an arsonist. He could be arsonist or jailor himself, he could've found a potential arsonist as sheriff/investigator/consigliere, maybe he has some weird logic regarding the setup that has him convinced that there is one or he's just plain bluffing for whatever reason.

An arsonist probably wouldn't be so dumb to blatantly ask questions about his role just like that. Then again, he could do it because it'd make us think he couldn't possibly be so dumb. :p

[Unknown User]

Why would it be metagaming and how is it evidence? It only suggests that he thinks there's an arsonist. He could be arsonist or jailor himself, he could've found a potential arsonist as sheriff/investigator/consigliere, maybe he has some weird logic regarding the setup that has him convinced that there is one or he's just plain bluffing for whatever reason.

An arsonist probably wouldn't be so dumb to blatantly ask questions about his role just like that. Then again, he could do it because it'd make us think he couldn't possibly be so dumb. :p

Also, I didn't use his question as evidence :D
He said I would have plenty of time to douse people lol. btw, Arsonist's actions is #14, and kills are like #15-18. So yes, he can still burn.

[Duzero]

I love how defensive you're getting at a joke.
and how you try to draw attention to me for being an arsonist now lol.
Congratulations, you've made my scum list. =)

You're the one getting defensive, saying how you will be dead by night 4. That triggered an idea in my head about an arsonist needing a few nights to douse. And it seems I'm on the right track ^.^

[Unknown User]

You're the one getting defensive, saying how you will be dead by night 4. That triggered an idea in my head about an arsonist needing a few nights to douse. And it seems I'm on the right track ^.^

lol!!!!


1. I made a joke saying killers start at the bottom and we lynch from the top.
2A. coincidentally, the player on the bottom died n1.
2B. I jokingly say that we must start lynch at the top because of that.
3. You claim I'm threatening you.
4. I tell you I'm not threatening you, and that, since i'm fourth from the bottom, i'm dead n4.
5. You claim I'm Arsonist.
6. I lol at you saying that you're on the right track.
7. ????
8. ????
9. profit!

[Mopin]

Well was anyone attacked at all? I going to assume we have a cult leader in this game to balance things. After all, we do have a town amnesiac and probably an arsonist for our neutrals, which aren't exactly the best roles for scum in most cases.

[Unknown User]

Well was anyone attacked at all? I going to assume we have a cult leader in this game to balance things. After all, we do have a town amnesiac and probably an arsonist for our neutrals, which aren't exactly the best roles for scum in most cases.

I was not attacked. Only rb'd. anything happen to you?

Either someone was attacked/healed, someone landed a proper rb, we have a killer that hit an immune target, or an arsonist lurking around.

Also, how do you know we have a Town Amnesiac in the game? :o

[Rocshi]

I wake up everyday it's a daydream
Everythin' in my life ain't what it seems
I wake up just to go back to sleep
I act real shallow but I'm in too deep

And all I care about is sex and violence
A heavy bass line is my kind of silence
Everybody says that I gotta get a grip
But I let sanity give me the slip

Some people think I'm bonkers
But I just think I'm free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Some people pay for thrills
But I get mine for free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Bonkers

*WHUBWHUBWHUBWHUB*

[Unknown User]

I wake up everyday it's a daydream
Everythin' in my life ain't what it seems
I wake up just to go back to sleep
I act real shallow but I'm in too deep

And all I care about is sex and violence
A heavy bass line is my kind of silence
Everybody says that I gotta get a grip
But I let sanity give me the slip

Some people think I'm bonkers
But I just think I'm free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Some people pay for thrills
But I get mine for free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Bonkers

*WHUBWHUBWHUBWHUB*

Great song

[Duzero]

I was not attacked. Only rb'd.

Explains why no one claims doused :smile:

[Unknown User]

Explains why no one claims doused :smile:

HEY GUYS, I FOUND THE BENIGN NEUTRAL
:)

[clementine]

Hi everybody, last night I was bus driven. I'm honestly a little upset that the bus driver would try to swap me, because in my mind that seems a little anti-town. I almost suspect a Drug Dealer bus drive, but at this point I can't be sure because some people do seem to suspect me already of being mafia. I could have been swapped with CmG for all I know, so I won't go raging at the bus driver just yet. Can anyone else confirm that they were also bus driven? If so, we likely have a bus driver. If not, we likely have a drug dealer (or a scummy neutral who doesn't want to claim for whatever reason).

Cryptonic seems harmless for now. Let's stop wasting our time in daychat interrogating him.
He was likely roleblocked for real; I agree with the reasoning he gave. It's too early to tell, but it also seems a little scummy to me that an escort would try to role block Cryptonic, who claimed an investigative role. Sure, the escort could have thought he was scummy, but I kind of think it makes more sense that mafia has a consort and potentially a drug dealer at this point. I doubt they would have both a consort and a drug dealer though. It seems more likely that the fourth mafia role is framer or lawyer. Just a hunch though. I do not think we have a witch at this point.

I would like to FOS Mopin for not dying N1. Seems like every game I play with him, he dies N1 unless he is mafia or another neutral role.

For now, let's just wait for everyone to check back in with night effects before we jump to any conclusions.

[Duzero]

HEY GUYS, I FOUND THE BENIGN NEUTRAL
:)

HEY GUYS, I FOUND THE ARSONIST
:)

[Duzero]

Oh hi claimontime, how many layers of wifom do you have in this game? I will be disappointed if it's less than 3 :D

[Unknown User]

Hi everybody, last night I was bus driven. I'm honestly a little upset that the bus driver would try to swap me, because in my mind that seems a little anti-town. I almost suspect a Drug Dealer bus drive, but at this point I can't be sure because some people do seem to suspect me already of being mafia. I could have been swapped with CmG for all I know, so I won't go raging at the bus driver just yet. Can anyone else confirm that they were also bus driven? If so, we likely have a bus driver. If not, we likely have a drug dealer (or a scummy neutral who doesn't want to claim for whatever reason).

Cryptonic seems harmless for now. Let's stop wasting our time in daychat interrogating him.
He was likely roleblocked for real; I agree with the reasoning he gave. It's too early to tell, but it also seems a little scummy to me that an escort would try to role block Cryptonic, who claimed an investigative role. Sure, the escort could have thought he was scummy, but I kind of think it makes more sense that mafia has a consort and potentially a drug dealer at this point. I doubt they would have both a consort and a drug dealer though. It seems more likely that the fourth mafia role is framer or lawyer. Just a hunch though. I do not think we have a witch at this point.

I would like to FOS Mopin for not dying N1. Seems like every game I play with him, he dies N1 unless he is mafia or another neutral role.

For now, let's just wait for everyone to check back in with night effects before we jump to any conclusions.

All good info, taking notes now.
In all honesty, I tried to act a bit scummy day 1 in hopes that lots of people would target me so I could find out more information. Only 1 notification tho. But, because of that, I'm still 50/50 with escort/consort.

[Unknown User]

Also, In my opinion, I believe that it was a BD that targetted you.
Because I think the best results for a Drug Dealer night one would either be attacked and healed or witched.

[BorkBot]

Also, In my opinion, I believe that it was a BD that targetted you.
Because I think the best results for a Drug Dealer night one would either be attacked and healed or witched.

I think it's slightly curious that this is the second time you insist that it's unlikely that a drug dealer performed the action. Looks like you really don't want us to suspect there might be one in the game.

[Unknown User]

I think it's slightly curious that this is the second time you insist that it's unlikely that a drug dealer performed the action. Looks like you really don't want us to suspect there might be one in the game.

No... I never said not to suspect one, I just said it's unlikely that these actions are caused by a drug dealer.

If I were a drug dealer, I would not fake rb n1. because if you fake rb and investigative role, they see they are rb but still see the outcome. Therefore, it would be a bad call to use that action.

Secondly, bussing does barely anything night one.

The best bet for a drug dealer night one would be attack and healed, because then we would all think there was another KPN and the doctor might think there is a second doctor.
Or, alternatively, the drug dealer could make someone think they were witched. This could easily screw anybody up, because they wouldn't know who they targetted, and the town would start hunting for a witch that might not even be in the game.

BD and RB as Drug Dealer night one is just not logical.

[Ubernox]

I must agree with my previous-enemy Clementine, there is scummyness afoot today. No harm in FOSing Mopin for a bit.

Methinks that Cryptonic is either:

1. Lying about something.

2. Was blocked by a consort.

I'm kind of inclined to think towards option 2, because I'm not sure why he would do option 1 - even if he is trying to pull something dastardly.

[Ubernox]

Whoops, is Cryptonic tripping up on himself?

[Unknown User]

Whoops, is Cryptonic tripping up on himself?

how am I tripping up? lol
I'm giving sound reasoning to my claims lol.

[clementine]

Cryptonic is either hyperactive-trying-to-be-helpful-citizen or godfather-trying-to-mislead-us.
Only citizen and godfather (and maybe a benign neutral) don't mind being role blocked N1, and wouldn't have any status effects to tell them if it's a real or fake role block. He posted that a drug dealer wouldn't fake role block him in case he had any night action feedback. I believe this much about Cryptonic's role.


I'm in charge of the mafia apparently:

Day 1:
Cryptonic: OK GUYS.
We'll start lynching at #1. Duzero and move down the list.

Killers will start at #20. CmG and move up the list.

sounds like a plan???


----------

should we... lynch... him...?

Starting to look at this whole post in a new light... Wouldn't it be awkward if Cryptonic actually WAS in charge of the mafia... as godfather!!!? FOS on him too for now.

[Ubernox]

Wine In Front Of Me.

[BorkBot]

If I were a drug dealer, I would not fake rb n1. because if you fake rb and investigative role, they see they are rb but still see the outcome. Therefore, it would be a bad call to use that action.

It could be used as a second "investigation" of sorts. If you hadn't said anything, or something like "hey guys I got drugged last night there's a drug dealer in the game" they would've known that you had a night action with feedback and killed you for it. Or if you were an FM newb, you might have asked for an explanation in the day chat or something.


The best bet for a drug dealer night one would be attack and healed, because then we would all think there was another KPN and the doctor might think there is a second doctor.

I beg to differ. If there had been a serial killer kill alongside the mafia kill today and the drug was used on someone who performed no night action last night, we'd instantly know there to be a drug dealer in the game (because 2 serial killers is just not happening).


Or, alternatively, the drug dealer could make someone think they were witched. This could easily screw anybody up, because they wouldn't know who they targetted, and the town would start hunting for a witch that might not even be in the game.

This would be a better option.

[Unknown User]

Cryptonic is either hyperactive-trying-to-be-helpful-citizen or godfather-trying-to-mislead-us.
Only citizen and godfather (and maybe a benign neutral) don't mind being role blocked N1, and wouldn't have any status effects to tell them if it's a real or fake role block. He posted that a drug dealer wouldn't fake role block him in case he had any night action feedback. I believe this much about Cryptonic's role.



Starting to look at this whole post in a new light... Wouldn't it be awkward if Cryptonic actually WAS in charge of the mafia... as godfather!!!? FOS on him too for now.

Hahaha I love absolutely everything about this post.
+1ing the shit outta it

[Ubernox]

Hahaha, yeah that would be funny. That's a funny joke, because it's a joke and it's not true. Ha. Ha ha ha. Ha.

I dunno... something seems fishy.

[Unknown User]

block Cryptonic, i'm gonna kill CmG.

holy shit, found this by google searching you.

[Unknown User]

btw it's not only Jester/Amnesiac/GF/Cit/Survivor that doesn't mind being rb n1

[Ubernox]

k guys, I'm the gf. ok, so im gonna pretend to be blocked today lol

Maybe it's just me, but I think he's hinting at something here... let me check my notes.

[Unknown User]

OK, well guys, I am heading home from work now.
I probably won't pop back in until the morning.
So I hope to see some news.

Btw, if anyone wondering why I post so much, I work insurance.
That is 7 hours a day at a computer doing 3 hours of work.
I use FM to pace myself :P

[Shaded]

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Cryptonic sure is dominating the chat. That seems iffy to me by itself without all the strange allusions and general scumminess.

[BorkBot]

Jester/Amnesiac/GF/Cit/Survivor
Jailor, Vigilante, Mayor, Executioner, Actress, Doctor (because night 1 heals never work), Booster (because night 1 boosts would be stupid)


I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Cryptonic sure is dominating the chat. That seems iffy to me by itself without all the strange allusions and general scumminess.
I agree. I want to dominate the chat myself. I'm totally not going to take CmG's role by the way, so I'm still neutral and everybody's friend :p

[Shaded]

Jailor, Vigilante, Mayor, Executioner, Actress, Doctor (because night 1 heals never work), Booster (because night 1 boosts would be stupid)


I agree. I want to dominate the chat myself. I'm totally not going to take CmG's role by the way, so I'm still neutral and everybody's friend :p
Ah yes, I find it interesting that you claimed town amnesiac so early, as well. I can think of plenty of reasons why mafia would have wanted to kill you but quick, considering that essentially makes you a future town power role.

So why are you still here? And don't say it's because you could prove helpful to maf in the future, because no booster would be stupid enough to change your alignment.

[Ubernox]

"As the silence (also known as Lack Of CmG) settled pleasantly, it was only to be disrupted once again by the derpish mastermind Borkboy."

[Ubernox]

The thing is, Shaded, that town amnesiac can easily be wifom'd to mean mafia amnesiac. Infact, if you use wifom correctly, every statement you make can cater to both mafia and town, thus ensuring your (my) survival.

Speaking of, I just watched TPB the other day. We should have a COM livestream of it sometime.

[Gingerape]

2. No editing posts. Offenders will be modcocked!

<3

Anyway, I'll take my guesses on the neutral evils.
Probably arsonist.
...I would say witch, but


Evil Neutral: Serial Killer, Arsonist, Cult Leader, Soul Thief
Benign Neutral: Survivor, Jester, Executioner, Town Amnesiac, Mafia Amnesiac

it's not there, probably just overlooked it?
...so maybe a soul thief?
But then I would think someone would be complaining about how they are a citizen now, in my opinion.
...so maybe a Serial Killer hit an immune, or a cultist.
It's too early to tell, but if there is an arsonist, I would expect him to wait till he has 4 targets doused in order to level up

[Ubernox]

I have a hunch that there's going to be a Soul Thief somewhere. I think it was catered to nicely in the FAQ and such.

[Sumikoko]

I'm actually quite surprised there weren't more kills. For one thing, especially about Luna's role as Veteran.

Since no one died from a seeming "veteran" visitation, I can only assume that either Luna is not a veteran, or that the Mafia does not have a witch. Or the Mafia may be idiots, which is always a good thing. Or we have really pro doctors up in here. Anyone claiming attacked and healed yet?

Nothing happened to me at night.

[Ubernox]

Because Luna is always visited on night 1.

[Gingerape]

Oh nevermind, I'm dumb, a witch is on the mafia alignment.
Forget everything i said forever.
*cries* I failed my first post in the mfm

[Rocshi]

Someone brought this up earlier, murr.

I find it REALLY suspicious that Cryptonic is trying to divert any possible attention away from a drug dealer.

Perhaps there is one in his mafia?

-vote Cryptonic

[Ubernox]

Oh nevermind, I'm dumb, a witch is on the mafia alignment.
Forget everything i said forever.
*cries* I failed my first post in the mfm

It pains me to see you so distressed. Take heart; you are not the first person to fail their first post in their first FM.

[Mopin]

I'm going to assume the neutrals are the Cult Leader and Soul Thief, which would make sense regarding how balanced it would be and how they are a lot more interesting compared to the Serial Killer or Arsonist.

Also nothing happened to me last night.

[Ubernox]

Let's not forget that it's perfectly possibly that an SK kill was saved, or that there has been an unannounced douse. There's really no way of knowing in any practical way at this stage - mine is merely a hunch.

-vote Cryptonic as long as it's only pressure. If this thing reaches any more than five votes, I'm unvoting.

[Duzero]

This guy seems scummy, I got this weird feeling from his posts and since more people doubt him it makes me more certain.

-vote Cryptonic

[Mopin]

Let's not forget that it's perfectly possibly that an SK kill was saved, or that there has been an unannounced douse. There's really no way of knowing in any practical way at this stage - mine is merely a hunch.

-vote Cryptonic as long as it's only pressure. If this thing reaches any more than five votes, I'm unvoting.

I don't see how pressure votes work if you announce that you'll unvote soon after. Everyone seems to do it in FMs and I can't see how it would have any affect at all, as its not like anything will come of your 'pressure'.

Either way -Vote Cryptonic

Might as well do something a little interesting.

[Ubernox]

Two more votes and I'm unvoting that shit. Careful there.

@Mopin the threat is that it doesn't stop when it's meant to, and the possibility of it becoming a wayward train. The threat of lynch is always a prominent danger.

[BorkBot]

Ah yes, I find it interesting that you claimed town amnesiac so early, as well. I can think of plenty of reasons why mafia would have wanted to kill you but quick, considering that essentially makes you a future town power role.

So why are you still here? And don't say it's because you could prove helpful to maf in the future, because no booster would be stupid enough to change your alignment.
I might be a mafia amnesiac. They don't know, and neither do you.

And honestly, they have no reason to consider killing me until there's a town PR in the graveyard of which they really don't want to see another. A "potential future PR" doesn't actually perform any actions that they have to worry about.

[Duzero]

I might be a mafia amnesiac. They don't know, and neither do you.

And honestly, they have no reason to consider killing me until there's a town PR in the graveyard of which they really don't want to see another. A "potential future PR" doesn't actually perform any actions that they have to worry about.

You will die because you are a potential threat, its better than killing another citizen.

[Mopin]

Honestly I think BorkBot is a town PR to me trying to convince mafia not to shoot him. It's not exactly hard to fake being the amnesiac and I doubt the mafia or even town would risk killing a possible ally.

I guess it's up for the mafia to decide, but I reckon town should just ignore BorkBot for the time being.

[BorkBot]

The first night kill is always random and town got lucky. The chance they'll hit another citizen tonight is very minimal, because they'll now have something to go off of.

[Shaded]

You will die because you are a potential threat, its better than killing another citizen.

Exactly this. Though ubernox made a fair point regarding a mafia amnesiac WIFOMing. I'm just iffy about day one roleclaiming, especially something that could easily bite mafia in the ass. You could be an additional doctor when we need it, or a sheriff, etc.

[Ubernox]

Bork has always been one for daring gambits.

[BorkBot]

Oh dear, the mafia is already using day chat to discuss if they should kill me or not.

HALP! I NEED A DOCTER!

[BorkBot]

Luna the veternarian, HEAL ME!

[Ubernox]

Judging by your avatar, I'd wager that you have myxomatosis. Poor little guy. Best to put him out of his misery...

[BorkBot]

No fluffy animals were harmed in the making of this game!

[Unknown User]

lol just got home from work, thought I'd look lol

I speak logically and get voted, great.
well, if you all decide to lynch me today, just remember the things I said lol.

[Unknown User]

Someone brought this up earlier, murr.

I find it REALLY suspicious that Cryptonic is trying to divert any possible attention away from a drug dealer.

Perhaps there is one in his mafia?

-vote Cryptonic

Once again, I NEVER said that there wasn't a Drug Dealer.
I only stated that I doubt Drug Dealer for my RB
and I doubted Drug Dealer for clem's bus.
Not everyone has checked in, maybe there is a drug dealer.
I was speaking about TWO events, not the entire game.

[Unknown User]

This guy seems scummy, I got this weird feeling from his posts and since more people doubt him it makes me more certain.

-vote Cryptonic

to be honest, I find you more scummy. You and Mopin lol

[Shaded]

Oh dear, the mafia is already using day chat to discuss if they should kill me or not.

HALP! I NEED A DOCTER!

Dodge attempt: noted. =]

[Ubernox]

-unvote

[Duzero]

to be honest, I find you more scummy. You and Mopin lol

May your death be swift and painless.

In loving memory of CmG ~

[Ubernox]

I like how this is suddenly a lynch train.

[Unknown User]

Are the Hidden Roles and Neutrals chosen randomly, or did you chose what they were going to be before hand?

[Ubernox]

They were random.org'd, of course! *wink*

[BorkBot]

The roles list itself often isn't entirely random, but the role assignment is.

[McJesus]

Are the Hidden Roles and Neutrals chosen randomly, or did you chose what they were going to be before hand?

The role list itself isn't random, only hidden

[Luna]

Sorry guys, only just got back home! Had an epic shopping trip to IKEA :D

I'm really tired and about to head straight to bed, my main involvement in this game will have to be tomorrow.

I have reason to believe a Witch may actually be in this game though.

[Ubernox]

Typical woman. You're probably the witch.

[Shaded]

I like how this is suddenly a lynch train.

Only 4 votes that I counted. And the discussion about Crypt seems to have died down a bit. Hardly what I'd call a train.

[Sinclair]

http://webbernaturals.com/media/5ed4dd31-8963-4e77-9020-a0c55940c8a1/Content/Blog%20Images/sleep%20zzzs_jpg

[Duzero]

So.... whats up everyone?

[GriM-DeMoN]

ONLY COCK IS UP

[Duzero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_wnGJ4nrLQ

[Shaded]

So.... whats up everyone?

Just hangin. Kickin back with a beer and watching the show.

[Ubernox]

Hey Duzero. You were pretty good in five sided.

[Duzero]

Hey Duzero. You were pretty good in five sided.

And you were a nice help at the start, before you turned on us ;)

[Ubernox]

I was 100% justified, and I would have won had I not listened to Escaho.

[Ubernox]

Speaking of which,

-vote Escaho

For metagame raisins.

[Duzero]

What is escaho in this game? He must die!!!

[Escaho]

Oh sweet lord, what have I walked into?

Cryptonic is just shooting himself in the foot at this stage. I'm almost inclined to believe he's a Citizen who stumbled into a Jester WIFOM because of his total failure to articulate what the hell he's trying to say. That or a Drug Dealer who just got busted, ooooooh!


I was 100% justified, and I would have won had I not listened to Escaho.

Rule One of Forum Mafia: Beware of Ho.

To Sumi: Let's be honest. We all knew Luna was lying when she said she was Veteran.

To clementine: I must say, you are being much more pro-town this game than the last. Perhaps you really are a Citizen this time!

To Grim-Demon: What the hell was that?

[Ubernox]

He's spreading propaganda again - don't listen to his lies!

[Luna]

He's spreading propaganda again - don't listen to his lies!

Unlike your crazy, trolly lies? :P

Anyway, obviously I'm not a Veteran. The reason I think there may have been a Witch in the game is because I was Bus Driven last night (presumably with clementine).

Now unless the Bus Driver actually wanted to chance it with a Veteran claimer, I suspect there may actually be a Witch in this game.

[Ubernox]

This is quite reminiscent of M-FM 6. Wouldn't the witch have had to designated two targets for her victim?

[BorkBot]

Unlike your crazy, trolly lies? :P

Anyway, obviously I'm not a Veteran. The reason I think there may have been a Witch in the game is because I was Bus Driven last night (presumably with clementine).

Now unless the Bus Driver actually wanted to chance it with a Veteran claimer, I suspect there may actually be a Witch in this game.

Oh my gawd now the mafia knows who the bus driver is! I'm totally gonna die! Veternarian Luna heal me plz!

[BorkBot]

This is quite reminiscent of M-FM 6. Wouldn't the witch have had to designated two targets for her victim?

Not if the secondary target stayed the same. Derp.

[BorkBot]

Sorry for double posting I know some people see it as scummy for whatever reason.

[Duzero]

Thats a triple post, so it makes you non-scummy again.

[Duzero]

Only an even number of posts in a row is scummy.

[Unknown User]

Unlike your crazy, trolly lies? :P

Anyway, obviously I'm not a Veteran. The reason I think there may have been a Witch in the game is because I was Bus Driven last night (presumably with clementine).

Now unless the Bus Driver actually wanted to chance it with a Veteran claimer, I suspect there may actually be a Witch in this game.



This just further proves that i'm trying to cover up a Drug Dealer!!!

I swear, everyone who voted me either is super paranoid town or has shit poor reading comprehension.
I said it was probably a BD and not a drug dealer, and I was correct it seems.

Anyways, since all you people think posting a lot (I DON'T HAVE WORK TO DO AT MY JOB) is a sign of scumminess, I'll just stay quiet for ya.

[Unknown User]

Thats a triple post, so it makes you non-scummy again. post #107

Only an even number of posts in a row is scummy. post #108

By his own logic, he just admitted to being scum.

[Duzero]

post #107
post #108

By his own logic, he just admitted to being scum.

And by pointing out the obvious you convinced you are scum.

[Duzero]

Btw, you also posted twice. Confirming my theory.

[Unknown User]

and you just posted twice again, extra confirming you're scummington!!!!

[Gingerape]

This is my scumlist! (It's just everyone who has double posted so far)
Cryptonic: Arsonist
Duzero: Godfather
Borkbot: Framer
Shaded: Witch
Ubernox: Consigliere

[Gingerape]

We need to start lynching those double posters asap <3

[Unknown User]

can't anyone keep track?
i already claimed to be Mayor, Vigilante, Citizen, and Investigator...
I can't possibly be Arsonist as well!!

[ajkei]

We need to start lynching those double posters asap <3

*she says as she double posts

[Ubernox]

Ajkei hasn't claimed yet, therefore he must be scum.

[Unknown User]

*she says as she double posts

OH HO HO!!!!!!! I THINK WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING HERE.


Ajkei hasn't claimed yet, therefore he must be scum.


OH HO HO!!!!!!! I THINK WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING HERE.

[Duzero]

Always I wanna be with you, and make believe with you and live in harmony harmony.

First time for months and just 30k score =(

[ajkei]

I just saw the tags for this thread
McPwnage you so funny
*required double post to wifom scumminess because I am in truth the jailor and i do not want to be shot by the mafia

[ajkei]

but everyone thinks crypto scum and he claims more than everyone!
claiming is bads!

goddamn school computer not letting me double post

[Duzero]

Not only McPwnage can add tags

[Unknown User]

OK AJKEI, TAKING NOTES.

[ajkei]

messaging through tags is new meta
Untrackable way for mafia to reveal invest results? op
nerf pls

[ajkei]

oh wait i must be scum because I only noticed that because I'm mafia and am using this code
and I just posted these to try to cover up and make it seem like I'm not using this code
???

[ajkei]

ah more double posts im such scum
time to triple post cuz now im not scum
trust me

[ajkei]

how does town feel about quad posts?

[ajkei]

doesn't matter cuz im not quad posting

[ajkei]

when will someone stop the flood of posts?

[ajkei]

-Vote McPwnage
clearly scum

[ajkei]

crypt are you taking good notes on me?

[Unknown User]

crypt are you taking good notes on me?

of course they're good.
You Octo-posted, you couldn't possibly be evil.

[Unknown User]

Is Cult Leader Malignent Neutral? XD

[clementine]

Hi everyone, at this point, it seems like there is a confirmed bus driver, and witch because of the Luna situation. Just for clarification...
What happens in this scenario?

Bus Driver (swaps Person A with Person B)
Witch witches Bus Driver onto Person C.

Who are the two people that end up switched?

It does seem unlikely that anyone would target Luna N1 (except obviously a witch redirecting someone to Luna). Apparently now mafia knows who the bus driver is, due to our feedback messages. Why would the bus driver want to bus me though?

Conspiracy Theory #1:
I have a crazy theory that I was drug deal bus driven and Luna is mafia serving as the second bussed claim to add credibility to the "bus driver." Mafia should want to kill the bus driver tonight, as they have found a powerful town role that cannot yet self target. If I don't see a bus driver dead tomorrow, there BETTER be two bussed claims tomorrow (which forces a drug dealer to use the bus driven drug and have a mafia member claim tomorrow). Day 3, the drug dealer would use a different drug to level up, and the remaining two mafia members would claim bussed in order to help corroborate the bus driver story. From Day 4 and onward, the drug dealer can use the bus driven drug on two players at once.

If I'm being truly paranoid, this is a mafia plot to see if I am WIFOMing citizen or being truthful about my claim (i.e. was I successfully recruited by the masons despite being "bussed" because a mason leader would never target Luna, especially with many better targets offering themselves. Furthermore, an unwitched bus driver would NEVER switch a citizen claimer hoping to get recruited with a veteran. That is the most anti-town night action I can think of). You'll never know until you kill me, mafia. I was either successfully recruited by the masons last night and am calling your bluff Luna, or I'm just paranoid and coming up with conspiracy theories. I will neither confirm nor deny that I am a mason, but if I am, be assured we will discuss this in great detail tonight.

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Additionally, due to the lack of soul thief and serial kill feedback (soul stolen, attacked and healed), I feel like we can confirm the presence of a cult leader and arsonist in this setup. I expect arsonist to want to burn N5 to level up completely. I haven't fully thought out the implications of arsonist deaths in conjunction with mafia deaths and cult conversions, but we should assume we need to find and eliminate the evil neutrals by N3/N4 at the latest in order to nip things in the bud and take them out before too much damage is done.

[Unknown User]

Hi everyone, at this point, it seems like there is a confirmed bus driver, and witch because of the Luna situation. Just for clarification...
What happens in this scenario?

Bus Driver (swaps Person A with Person B)
Witch witches Bus Driver onto Person C.

Who are the two people that end up switched?

It does seem unlikely that anyone would target Luna N1 (except obviously a witch redirecting someone to Luna). Apparently now mafia knows who the bus driver is, due to our feedback messages. Why would the bus driver want to bus me though?

Conspiracy Theory #1:
I have a crazy theory that I was drug deal bus driven and Luna is mafia serving as the second bussed claim to add credibility to the "bus driver." Mafia should want to kill the bus driver tonight, as they have found a powerful town role that cannot yet self target. If I don't see a bus driver dead tomorrow, there BETTER be two bussed claims tomorrow (which forces a drug dealer to use the bus driven drug and have a mafia member claim tomorrow). Day 3, the drug dealer would use a different drug to level up, and the remaining two mafia members would claim bussed in order to help corroborate the bus driver story. From Day 4 and onward, the drug dealer can use the bus driven drug on two players at once.

If I'm being truly paranoid, this is a mafia plot to see if I am WIFOMing citizen or being truthful about my claim (i.e. was I successfully recruited by the masons despite being "bussed" because a mason leader would never target Luna, especially with many better targets offering themselves. Furthermore, an unwitched bus driver would NEVER switch a citizen claimer hoping to get recruited with a veteran. That is the most anti-town night action I can think of). You'll never know until you kill me, mafia. I was either successfully recruited by the masons last night and am calling your bluff Luna, or I'm just paranoid and coming up with conspiracy theories. I will neither confirm nor deny that I am a mason, but if I am, be assured we will discuss this in great detail tonight.

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Additionally, due to the lack of soul thief and serial kill feedback (soul stolen, attacked and healed), I feel like we can confirm the presence of a cult leader and arsonist in this setup. I expect arsonist to want to burn N5 to level up completely. I haven't fully thought out the implications of arsonist deaths in conjunction with mafia deaths and cult conversions, but we should assume we need to find and eliminate the evil neutrals by N3/N4 at the latest in order to nip things in the bud and take them out before too much damage is done.

Well, we should keep an eye out for all this to happen.
maybe this is just another layer, and YOU'RE the drug dealer who bus drugged and faked it yourself, who knows ammirite? lol
anyways, if we have a CL i'm guessing a PR is ML.

[Unknown User]

oh, totally skipped the paragraph about you being converted lol
guess you already know that there is a ML and you probably aren't DD XD

[clementine]

If I was a drug dealer I would be 100% stupid to drug dealer a claimed veteran N1 on the off chance that Luna would be telling the truth.

Like Luna said, there is most likely a witch...

OR,

I provided an alternate scenario in which Luna is mafia. I find it scummy that you are suddenly accusing me of being a drug dealer, after first your vivid denial of the likelihood of there being a drug dealer and second, your (in my opinion) pretty adequate analysis of why a drug dealer was unlikely to have dealt a role block or a bus drive. I have just offered a great counterexample to why a bus drive is a perfectly fine drug deal, and you fail to grasp why I now think it implicates Luna. You have proven to be smarter than this, so why so defensive of Luna?

Connection between Cryptonic and Luna? I think so. Something to keep an eye on.

[Unknown User]

If I was a drug dealer I would be 100% stupid to drug dealer a claimed veteran N1 on the off chance that Luna would be telling the truth.



oh, totally skipped the paragraph about you being converted lol
guess you already know that there is a ML and you probably aren't DD XD

take it back you bully

[Mopin]

You know, I really seem to think Clementine is scum this game. Though as of yet I have no real reason why.

Someone should shoot her.

[Unknown User]

Also, I cannot stand how stupid everyone is being about this situation.
It's like none of you have reading comprehension.


Let me reiterate for you all:

SITUTION ONE:
This means the first situation I spoke of, not the entire fucking game.

I doubted DD would fake RB night because he could be caught.
He could get caught if I was invest and he fake RB'd.

SITUATION TWO:
This means the second situation in which I spoke about DD, once again, not the entire fucking game.

You claimed to be bussed, I said that the DD could be more effective not faking BD.
I never said he didn't do it, I said it was unlikely.
Another person claimed bussed, so I was CORRECT, unless one of you is lying.

SITUATION THREE:
WHICH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW, ONCE AGAIN, NOT THE ENTIRE FUCKNIG GAME.
Your WIFOM was logical and made me deduce some more via circular logic that YOU could be the DD.
However, if you were converted (which I doubt, since that means the Mason leader was gonna target the Veteran), that makes it impossible for you to be DD.



Ok, now, let's have a summary.
I will put it in bright, big, bold font so you all can understand.

I NEVER said there wasn't a DD. I simply stated that for Situation One and Two that the likelihood of a DD was low. Which is fucking logical if you took the time to read what I said. I stated that missed the paragraph that you said you were converted, and took back what I said.
I AM NOT TRYING TO COVER UP FOR A DRUG DEALER. THERE COULD BE ONE IN THIS GAME. I SIMPLY STATED THAT SITUATIONS ONE AND TWO ARE MOST LIKELY NOT BECAUSE OF A DRUG DEALER.

[BorkBot]

Sooooo many people who haven't posted yet today. Lurkers are all scum!

Come out of your little rabbit holes everyone!

[Ubernox]

Much wifom is at work here...

It wouldn't be entirely inconceivable for someone to call Luna on her bluff. It is unusual to see veterans in FM, and almost all Day 1 claims can be safely considered to be untrue. Anyway, people always go for Luna night 1. We shouldn't consider speculation as solid evidence. However, that's not saying that Clemmy isn't indeed on to something here.

I am reluctant to do anything drastic as of yet, because of the chance of us exposing a wifoming PR with our probes and accusations. There is a very real chance that some of the persons of suspicion here before us are, in actuality, town roles. It wouldn't be the first time town has lynched one of their own PRs who were only trying to avoid the mafia's scrutiny.

All I advise is caution and prudence. I doubt that Crypt is an evil role.

[Ubernox]

Do you have anything to contribute, Bork?

[BorkBot]

Yes I have info but I'm not going to tell you yet.

Blazer, Carolina Crown, Rihfok, Brendan and SirBlayzalot (lol Blazer's smurf) all haven't talked yet and they totally should.

FoS all of them imo!

[Unknown User]

Here is what I think of everyone:
01. Duzero
Uneasy. Might be hiding something or might have been trying to lay low to avoid getting killed.
02. Ubernox
Logical and hasn't slipped up yet.
03. Blazer
Don't really recall he speaking much.
04. Gingerape
basically tells the witch d1 to make people target Luna, unaware that Witch is Mafia aligned.
05. Borkbot
Trying to keep himself alive it seems.
06. Clementine
Speaks logic, but I'm pretty sure she's lied a few times already.
07. Carolina Crown
has not said a word
08. Shaded
posts opinion and doesn't jump to conclusions.
09. Mopin
Votes me for "something interesting". probably a boring role or neutral.
10. Ajeki
I believe he is what he said he is.
11. Sumiko
Spoke some, nothing memorable.
12. Escaho
I recall 1 post, don't remember what it said.
13. Sinclair
has said hello d1 and d2, that's it
14. Rihfok
Don't remember he speaking.
15. Brendan
Is this guy even in the game?
16. Luna
Claims vet n1 to either stay alive or prevent investigation.
17. Cryptonic
top of everyone's scum list
18. SirBlayzalot
Don't remember his posting so far.
19. Rocshi
Reads everyone's posts but mine and decides to vote me


These are the people i'm gonna keep an eye on from now on.
04. Gingerape
06. Clementine
07. Carolina Crown
13. Sinclair
14. Rihfok
15. Brendan
16. Luna
19. Rocshi

[McJesus]

Hi everyone, at this point, it seems like there is a confirmed bus driver, and witch because of the Luna situation. Just for clarification...
What happens in this scenario?

Bus Driver (swaps Person A with Person B)
Witch witches Bus Driver onto Person C.

Who are the two people that end up switched?


Person C and Person B are switched

[Ubernox]

That makes sense. If there IS a witch, maybe he/she was trying to get someone killed by a veteran?

[Unknown User]

That makes sense. If there IS a witch, maybe he/she was trying to get someone killed by a veteran?

Yea, but we don't know for sure.
The witch could've made the BD target Luna, but what I don't get is:
People say that the BD must've been witched because Luna claimed vet d1 and the BD wouldn't risk it. However, Clem said she was converted to Mason, meaning that the Mason Leader targeted Luna last night, but no one is saying the ML was witched.

so couldn't both have called bluff and so there is the chance of no witch.

DISCLAIMER: TO AVOID ANOTHER DRUG DEALER FIASCO, THIS IS NOT ME CLAIMING THAT THERE IS NOT A WITCH. I'M JUST SAYING THIS ISN'T SOLID PROOF.

[clementine]

Finished takin my notes. I neither confirm nor deny being recruited.

I wanna hear what Luna has to say!! Will be waiting for her reply.

[Ubernox]

Clementine, do you deny being a witch?

[clementine]

Nah bro I ain't a witch. I'm just the cuddly little black cat that crossed your path in 5-sided town. (this means you get bad luck for your next forum mafia)!

:P :P :P

[Ubernox]

Do you deny killing CmG

[Unknown User]

Clementine and her codes.


Nah bro I ain't a witch. I'm just the cuddly little black cat that crossed your path in 5-sided town. (this means you get bad luck for your next forum mafia)!

:P :P :P

cracked it

[Shaded]

For the record, crypt, Clementine hasn't said if she was recruited. Just "maybe."

[BorkBot]

BLAZER IS MAFIA

vote Blazer

[Unknown User]

For the record, crypt, Clementine hasn't said if she was recruited. Just "maybe."

it would make sense if she wasn't converted, seeing as how she was bussed with someone who claimed veteran lol.

[Unknown User]

BLAZER IS MAFIA

vote Blazer

whoa, you spoke robot

[Luna]

I am more than a little concerned that clementine is playing as she is. With no confirmed Mason Leader in this setup, it does seem a bit hedgey. Like she's testing the waters to see if there really are any Masons and draw them out.

In the meantime, is anyone else surprised at Borkbot's slightly trolly play? xD He's normally so analytical. I smell foul play! ^^ I think the possibility of him being a Mafia Amnesiac is high.

[Luna]

And I'm sorry I haven't been nor will be around much today. Ghost Recon don'tcherknow.

[Unknown User]

I am more than a little concerned that clementine is playing as she is. With no confirmed Mason Leader in this setup, it does seem a bit hedgey. Like she's testing the waters to see if there really are any Masons and draw them out.

In the meantime, is anyone else surprised at Borkbot's slightly trolly play? xD He's normally so analytical. I smell foul play! ^^ I think the possibility of him being a Mafia Amnesiac is high.

idk, with the possiblity of CL, I think ML is quite likely

[Ubernox]

Infact, Cult Leader is almost implied by the lack of kills. However, it would be wrong to assume that, therefore, there must be a Mason Leader. In fact, Clementine could easily have been culted, and is trying to pull a gambit.

I feel that there are lies in the air.

[Sumikoko]

Well it's as simple as this.

Bus driver, if you were notified of witching, then I suggest you reveal yourself. At this point, if the Mafia knows who you are, then you're just going to end up in the graveyard tomorrow. There is a confirmed doctor. A lookout or detective or bodyguard is probably also present simply because I don't believe there are any duplicate known town power roles, and it just makes sense for there to be one. If the Mafia has an interceptor, great. We'll catch you in the act.

As for cult leader, I just highly doubt there is one. It's a 20 person game. If the cult leader can survive past day 4, it's game over for town lol. I'm more inclined to believe it's an arsonist and soul thief, but it's whatever.

[Ubernox]

Agreed. Let's hope that the Bus Driver actually WAS witched, because that would make everything so much more simple.

[Shaded]

I'm with Sumi on this one. We'd benefit more from knowing there is a witch right now, than having the bus driver stay quiet.

If the bus driver doesn't come forward, I'm just going to continue assuming there is no witch. Though that begs the question of why they'd make such a strange switch to begin with.

[Ubernox]

Who hasn't posted yet? What if the BD is one of the many lurkers?

[BorkBot]

I'm the sheriff guys I checked Blazer last night and he is mafia. I'm trolling in my own defense and Mopin and Ubernox & co already caught me. Oh dear.

[Ubernox]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[BorkBot]

Nevermind, just ignore me then.

Just vote Blazer because he's mafia fo sho.

[BorkBot]

Do you have any better targets? No. Do you have any better leads? No.

He's mafia and being lurktrollscum as usual. It's not like he's ever going to claim or anything. He only claims when he's already dead.

[Shaded]

Nevermind, just ignore me then.

Just vote Blazer because he's mafia fo sho.

Sure. I'll get right on that.
:|

That's a decent point Ubernox, about the BD being a lurker, but I hope you're wrong.