Day 9 - End Times

[Forum Mafia GM]

When the sun rose, despite the death of Dracula the previous day, the killing did not cease. For two people, yesterday would be the last sun they ever saw.

Ser Jorah would never feel the warmth of the sun again, and that previous night had likely been one of great suffering. Flayed from the neck down, whomever had done so had taken a great pleasure in it, the work meticulous, truly a sickening masterpiece to behold. Written in blood above upon the wall where his corpse was found, 'Submit' was written. A warning for those still left alive. When they searched his home, they found the tools of a master blacksmith, as well as well as an eloquently written will. The survivors of Adelaide lost a great asset, the Blacksmith was dead.

Aww I died.

Yes, I was the Armorsmith. Yes, my vests ended up in some errant hands. First time playing a protective role and, well, the scum who I gave vests to were a lot more active than town players at the time!

Adios, mi amigos. Good luck town.

Lord Varys DID receive a vest from me night 1.

Joffrey and Cersei have been supplied with multiple vests, so the mafia would do well to pick other targets for a while.

Not all news was bad, however, as the snake known as Petyr was also found slain, his body discarded in the street near his home. It seemed that his claims of being tainted by Dracula's foul magic were true, though those who gazed upon him suspected that his actions were merely being dictated by the magic that had butchered his body. His cause of death was found to be a simple blade to the throat, the deft hand of a meticulous assassin. When they searched his house, they found that he was a mere pawn in the game of kings. He was a Serf.

One of the final meetings Adelaide would see had begun.

Role List:


Richard The Flayer
Nosferatu Devout
Anya Nighthawk
Random Town
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf


Possible Random Roles:
Vampires(Nosferatu Devout/Child of the Stars): Trapper(Inteceptor), Illusionist(Disguiser), Bloodmage(Grave Robber), Seductress/Playboy(Consort), Butcher(Janitor), Diabolist(Framer), Larcenist(Consigliere)
Town: Sergeant (Sheriff), Spy (Investigator), Snoop (Detective), Carriage Driver (Bus Driver), Sentinel (Lookout), Apothecary (Doctor), Mortician (Coroner), Gaelor (Jailor), Schizophreniac (Veteran), Fiddler (Escort), Tinkerer (Gunsmith), Blacksmith (Armorsmith)
Cursed: Pupil (Student), Fool (Jester), Nemesis (Executioner), Necrophiliac (Amnesiac), Phantom (Ghost), Coward (Survivor)
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Graveyard:
Arya (Serf) - Found brutalized in her home, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Syrio (Nemesis) - Found slumped over the body of his deceased children, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Eddard (Butcher) - Found eviscerated and tortured in the Cathedral Square, tied to a table. (Night 2)
Ser Berristan (Sergeant) - Found dead in Cathedral Square, drained of blood. (Night 2)
Renly (Carriage Driver) - His head was found within his blood stained carriage, a bear trap chained to it's rear axle. (Night 3)
Theon (Serf) - Found dead outside his home, impaled with a multitude of sharpened stakes, his throat torn. (Night 3)
Jaime (Serf) - Found dead in an alley, twisted by black magic and cut to shreds. (Night 3)
Bronn (Larcenist) - Executed in the blessed fountain in front of Adelaide Cathedral. (Day 4)
Catelyn (Paladin) - Found in the street, dismembered by her own blade. (Night 4)
Yoren (Warlock) - Found dead in his home, shot in the back of the head. (Night 4)
Tyrion (Dr. Adolf von Helsing) - Found in the cellar of Yoren's home, his eyes removed, with a bear trap clasped around his ankle. (Night 4)
Jon (Phantom) - Presumed dead, his house inflicted by a terrible curse that will likely never lift. (Night 4)
Ser Gregor (Fool) - Sentenced to death, his final performance claiming his own life and that of the nearest guardsman. (Day 5)
Viserys (Bishop) - Cause of death unknown, though those present remarked he smelled strongly of garlic. (Night 5)
Ser Davos (Gaelor) - Found dead near Viserys, stabbed countless times, his face mutilated. (Night 5)
Ser Rodrik (Seductress) - Executed in Cathedral Square, her head lopped off by a silver sword. (Day 6)
Aemon (Serf) - Found dead in his home, drained of blood. (Night 6)
Khal Drogo (Serf) - Found dead in his home, tortured heavily, his throat torn open. (Night 6)
Tywin (Trapper) - Executed in Cathedral Square, impaled by a plethora of lances. (Day 7)
Daenerys (Serf) - Found dead in front of her home, drained of blood. (Night 7)
Stannis (Mortician) - Found dead in the street, his body dismembered by an axe. (Night 7)
Janos (Count Dracula) - Found dead in the cathedral, shot through the head by a silver bullet. (Night 7)
Melisandre (Snoop) - Found upon her master's lap, her eyes gouged out, a dagger wound through the heart. (Night 7)
Robb (Seductress) - Executed in Cathedral Square, by some nonsense I can't be bothered to even attempt to describe. (Day 8 )
Ser Jorah (Blacksmith) - Found dead, flayed from neck to toe. (Night 8 )
Petyr (Serf) - Found in the street, his throat cut by an assassin's blade. (Night 8 )
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The day will end at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=St+Louis+Missouri+9%3A30+PM.+Monday+May+21+2012

From now on Day will last 24 hours.

You require 5 votes to lynch. Once a hammer vote has been cast, it cannot be undone.

I recommend you vote wisely.

[Joffrey]

I am so sorry.

I didn't get a night action out this night because I was out of town for this whole weekend until about half hour ago when I was unpacking. I apologize so much.

This last night the FM game master said I was bus driven. It looks like the grave robber took that skill.

[Oberyn]

Bwahahahaha! My goal to eliminate the cult is now Complete! I now surrender.

-Vote Oberyn


@ Jorah: Good job claiming to have received armor when you did. It actually threw me off your trail.

[Ser Loras]

It seems that we have reached the tipping point.

Five town members, four under their own control and one possessed by the ghost (Hi guys what's going on in this thread).

Let's rock this shit.

-vote Oberyn

Oh hi Oberyn so glad you decided to help me.

[Sandor]

no need to make haste. we have to identify the other mafia member next to Lord Varys.

[Joffrey]

Let me do some quick math here:
1 orange
2 reds
5 town

Let's say that we lynch Oberyn, that brings us to:
2 reds
5 town

and the reds will just kill one more town, presumably me.

2 reds
4 town

Hopefully the citizens will know who's really the mafia and lynch him (hopefully the graverobber)

1 red
4 town

then the last red kills a citizen:

1 red
3 town

We got this as long as we know who's red mafia and who's not.

[Oberyn]

Only 23 hours 42 minutes left. Hurry or you might get a no-lynch.

Btw.. Ignore Joffrey, you all think that he is culted anyways and you guys are bad at math.

[Ser Loras]

Glad that someone confirmed what I thought was true.

Best course of action is to identify the last red mafia ASAP, and make sure that the last vote goes down on Oberyn today.

I believe that yesterday we were suspicious of Ceresi? Might want to start there unless I missed a clear.

[Sandor]

jon do you see the role card of your target?

[Ser Loras]

I do not see the rolecard, but I can see other PMs.

Am I allowed to use this information to determine the role of my possessed target?

[Sandor]

Do you modkill for inactivity?

[Ser Loras]

On another note, I see that Ser Loras has unread posts in days 5, 6, 7, and 8.

Shame shame.

[Joffrey]

On another note, I see that Ser Loras has unread posts in days 5, 6, 7, and 8.

Shame shame.

lol

[Sandor]

Well, he could still be the graverobber who got overriden from the godfather but i agree the chance that it is the case is rather low.

[Ser Loras]

Just because someone has unread posts doesn't mean they can't do things at night. They might have skipped a page or something, or just not given a single fuck about daychat.

[Sandor]

If you don´t read the threads and only sit there for your mafia night actions, you should think about doing other shit then Forum Mafia. Kinda senseless isn´t it?

[Sandor]

i mean useless.

Nevermind.

[Oberyn]

-Vote that Samwell and Ser Loras (not the ghost) be banned from future FMs.

[Ser Loras]

-Vote that Samwell and Ser Loras (not the ghost) be banned from future FMs.

But then who would the Ghost possess without harming town?

[Joffrey]

In my humble opinion, I think that Cersei is the last hidden red mafia. Just my two cents for now.

[Oberyn]

But then who would the Ghost possess without harming town?

The same person he has possessed for the past 2 days, DUH! I'm da ghost!

[Ser Loras]

The same person he has possessed for the past 2 days, DUH! I'm da ghost!

is this some kind of fucking joke

[Oberyn]

Nope. You sir are a lurker that needs banning.

[Ser Loras]

Robb confirmed you as GF when you claimed.

It doesn't matter who I possessed though, once you die I will be the butt ghost.

[Ser Loras]

for reference
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-789-j

[Joffrey]

In any case, Oberyn is the orange GF and so needs to die to reduce KPN. The town cannot win with 2 KPN aimed at citizens/me.

[Ser Loras]

Yes I believe so. Do we want to kill him now or waste more time dithering over whether Lord Varys and Ceresi are really red mafia or not?

[Lord Varys]

Oh look, Loras has decide to finaly appear.

-Vote Oberyn

no need to make haste. we have to identify the other mafia member next to Lord Varys.

Go fuck yourself. We are hear to kill Oberyn. Just end the day now instead of helping the mafia.

Either way, I am past the point of believing you to be just a dumb citizen. Your just WIFOMing yourself away from your buddy while causeing a hammer in the works.


This is my only post for today.

[Ser Loras]

Oh look, Loras has decide to finaly appear.

-Vote Oberyn


Go fuck yourself. We are hear to kill Oberyn. Just end the day now instead of helping the mafia.

Either way, I am past the point of believing you to be just a dumb citizen. Your just WIFOMing yourself away from your buddy while causeing a hammer in the works.


This is my only post for today.
I think you mean "Loras forgot to wipe and now the butt ghost is in his butt and is controlling his actions".

[Cersei]

Well, if Joffrey was bus driven, that means the graverobber didn't get a new gun to use.

Question to Game Master:
If both the silver bullets of the Vigilante are used up, can the graverobber still steal from him at night to shoot people?

If the answer is no, then we're at least safe from double kills if we do lynch Oberyn.

However, we are going to have a massive problem because of the 2 lurkers if we eliminate Oberyn and the ghost today. The red maf will probably leave Ser Loras and Samwell alive. Though I consider it possible that Ser Loras is an AFK mafia controlled by the other.

We will actually lose in that 3v1 scenario Joffrey posted (we will have at most 2 people voting if Ser Loras is mafia, but 3 votes are necessary to get a majority).

I'm also interested if the GM will modkill AFK players.

If the answer is no... Oberyn and Jon, since the orange mafia is lost guaranteed and the ghost wins guaranteed.. are you willing to spend another day in the game and kill a lurker for us? I can imagine you don't really care to help the town, and that's fine.. but without your help we're lost anyway so I thought I might as well ask.

PS.
Joffrey, you are terrible :(

[Joffrey]

Cersei, you forgot something. Because I was bus driven that probably means that one of the red mafia has a vest.

[Cersei]

Well, he could still be the graverobber who got overriden from the godfather but i agree the chance that it is the case is rather low.
This, or he could be an AFK godfather and the graverobber used the kill vote to send him to kill.

[Ser Loras]

Well, if Joffrey was bus driven, that means the graverobber didn't get a new gun to use.

Question to Game Master:
If both the silver bullets of the Vigilante are used up, can the graverobber still steal from him at night to shoot people?

If the answer is no, then we're at least safe from double kills if we do lynch Oberyn.

However, we are going to have a massive problem because of the 2 lurkers if we eliminate Oberyn and the ghost today. The red maf will probably leave Ser Loras and Samwell alive. Though I consider it possible that Ser Loras is an AFK mafia controlled by the other.

We will actually lose in that 3v1 scenario Joffrey posted (we will have at most 2 people voting if Ser Loras is mafia, but 3 votes are necessary to get a majority).

I'm also interested if the GM will modkill AFK players.

If the answer is no... Oberyn and Jon, since the orange mafia is lost guaranteed and the ghost wins guaranteed.. are you willing to spend another day in the game and kill a lurker for us? I can imagine you don't really care to help the town, and that's fine.. but without your help we're lost anyway so I thought I might as well ask.

PS.
Joffrey, you are terrible :(

If we don't lynch Oberyn today, then it will be 1v1v3 (1v1v4 if they hit Joffery twice or something equally retarded), unless we get super fucking lucky and kill the red GF, and then Orange GF is stupid and hits the other red, in which case it's 1v4. The chances of 1v4 are extremely low.

I believe that we will lose with your scenario as well, and thus reject your solution and suggest we kill Oberyn today and pray that GM replaces an AFK or two. If we don't get AFK replacements, then I believe town will lose no matter what situation, and the 1v1v3 decreases my chances of lynching Oberyn.

[Cersei]

Cersei, you forgot something. Because I was bus driven that probably means that one of the red mafia has a vest.

True, I didn't think about that. Even so, the point I'm trying to make is that we need either Samwell or Ser Loras gone so we can get a voting majority in the end. If we can't lynch people because they aren't here, we're screwed. 2v1 only requires 2 votes. That's much better than 3v1, which requires 3 votes.

[Sandor]

So Cersei, Do you really say now we should leave Oberyn alive to have 2 kpn tonight? Really??

REAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYY???????????????????????????????????????? ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111111111

[Sandor]

That´s so fucking dumb i wanna nuke England. RIGHT NOW! Just to kill you :)

[Ser Loras]

Lynching a citizen today is obviously the absolute worst move we could possibly make.

If we lynch a cit, that means it's 1v2v4 going into the night.

Possible night results:
1v2v2 (town loss gg no re k thx)
1v2v3 (if a GF is targeted, town still loses unless orange GF contributes to a red lynch)
1v1v4 (best situation we could be in, if a red mafia and a gf are hit)
1v1v3 (town loss if one player is lurking)
1v2v4 (if 2 gf are hit)

probably something I missed because it's time for class

back in a while, I still believe lynching Oberyn is the best choice for Ghost and Town, as well as leading to a likely win for Red Mafia because of AFK players.

There is no winning situation for town unless afk players come back into the game suddenly.

[Joffrey]

Surprisingly, or not surprisingly, I agree with the neutral. Town is screwed unless the AFKers stop being AFKers.

[Sandor]

Oh i forgot, your grave robber has a vest now from last night. Clearly no risk in losing him. Sry my fault. Makes completely sense to let Oberyn alive today. for the red mafia team.

[Sandor]

Told u already yesterday. Your own fault for not lynching Lord Varys.

[Ser Loras]

Also, it should be plainly obvious that if we end up in a 1v1vtown situation, Oberyn has a possible chance of winning and the red mafia's chance of winning are decreased.

If we eliminate the Children of the Night today, everyone has a better chance of winning.

Except for Oberyn.

But fuck him.

[Cersei]

How do you propose we can win as town otherwise, Sandor?

Somehow I wouldn't find it surprising if that bus drive to stop Joffrey from getting armour was your idea. Anyway, we need to know what's going to happen with those AFKers before we decide a course of action.

There's actually a chance that we may win 3v1v1.

We lynch Oberyn after... 3v1

Mafia kills 1 person... 2v1

We lynch the last red mafia.

Though the only way this'll work is if Oberyn shoots Samwell or Ser Loras, and the other is part of the mafia (and lynched). At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Ser Loras was indeed mafia and we're all accusing each other while only one of us is actually mafia.

Although I guess if Ser Loras is mafia, we can still win if he remains AFK as long as we lynch the other red mafia tomorrow. Because he won't kill anyone at night as he won't send a night action.

[Ser Loras]

How do you propose we can win as town otherwise, Sandor?

Somehow I wouldn't find it surprising if that bus drive to stop Joffrey from getting armour was your idea. Anyway, we need to know what's going to happen with those AFKers before we decide a course of action.

There's actually a chance that we may win 3v1v1.

We lynch Oberyn after... 3v1

Mafia kills 1 person... 2v1

We lynch the last red mafia.

Though the only way this'll work is if Oberyn shoots Samwell or Ser Loras, and the other is part of the mafia (and lynched). At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Ser Loras was indeed mafia and we're all accusing each other while only one of us is actually mafia.

Although I guess if Ser Loras is mafia, we can still win if he remains AFK as long as we lynch the other red mafia tomorrow. Because he won't kill anyone at night as he won't send a night action.

We can't lynch Oberyn 3v1 without either a lurker coming back or Red mafia helping.

Why not cut the shit and lynch him today?

[Cersei]

It would be helpful if Ser Loras is allowed to say if he's a serf or not (if he can tell from his night PMs).


We can't lynch Oberyn 3v1 without either a lurker coming back or Red mafia helping.

Why not cut the shit and lynch him today?
It's actually possible to still lynch him in that case although there are a few ifs involved. If Oberyn kills the other AFKer, we can still lynch him. If you possess the AFKer or the red mafia, he can still be lynched.

I'm not sure if the host allows self-votes, but if he does then you could possess Oberyn and vote Oberyn yourself.

[Ser Loras]

Red mafia will not help us lynch Oberyn unless the member left is the Graverobber.

Oberyn won't kill afkers.

Today is our last chance to kill Oberyn

Oberyn (3): Ser Loras, Lord Varys, Oberyn

[Cersei]

And by the way I just read the carriage driver rolecard again and the graverobber can't have the armour, because he can't swap himself.

Jon, can you only possess each player max one time? It doesn't say so on your rolecard. If Oberyn doesn't kill an AFKer you could possess the AFKer to lynch him.

And as I said you can guarantee a lynch on Oberyn by possessing him and self-voting (if that's allowed).

[Sandor]

Hey Cersei. I have 1 Question for you. Who started the lynch train on Ser Rodric?

Another question for you. How is it possible that pro town Cersei (lulz) never voted anybody until the jester died? Why didn´t you vote on Ser Gregor? Because Bronn was on your team and you instantly knew what his role was when he did not even struggled against the lynch train who was driving in his direction.

You never voted on any red mafia member. How is that possible? You only voted on Robb and on Tywin duh. Kind of srange for a citizen who has clearly only his voice as his action.

Now you have the awesome idea which you should have had yesterday. That town needs the ghost to win this. A bit late don´t you agree? Also you never ever ever accused Lord Varys as scum. Every second post of him is full of scum tells and you never said a thing.

[Ser Loras]

I can possess people however many times I like as far as I know.

Can a player vote to lynch themselves?

Ceresi is obvious red mafia, I suggest you lynch Oberyn, then him, then Varys.

[Joffrey]

As far as I can see, the best scenario is if we lynch the Red GF today, Oberyn kills the graverobber, the graverobber kills a citizen tonight. Then the next day we lynch Oberyn.


But

This scenario is unlikely for so many reasons. It's basically impossible.

[Sandor]

Well if you know who the lurkers are you could contact them to come back though. One is clearly Grim Demon. The other no clue

[Cersei]

Hey Cersei. I have 1 Question for you. Who started the lynch train on Ser Rodric?
I did. Problem?


Another question for you. How is it possible that pro town Cersei (lulz) never voted anybody until the jester died?
Wrong again.
I voted plenty of people (Stannis day 2, Ser Rodrik and Ser Davos day 3, Yoren and Bronn day 4). Your memory seems to be terrible. If you look back, of the people I voted who are now dead, only Stannis and Ser Davos were not scum. Ser Rodrik, Yoren, Bronn, Tywin, Robb were all scum.


Why didn´t you vote on Ser Gregor? Because Bronn was on your team and you instantly knew what his role was when he did not even struggled against the lynch train who was driving in his direction.
Ehm.. what? I just thought it was a stupid lynch and it was. I never got any scum reads on Ser Gregor and I thought he was just trolling. Nobody really had anything on Ser Gregor. All you idiots just jumped at Bronn's last will going "OH MY GOD HE MUST BE CUTL LEADAR CUZ BRONNS LAST WILL SAYS SO," which was just dumb. Nobody was acting on any real reads.


You never voted on any red mafia member. How is that possible? You only voted on Robb and on Tywin duh. Kind of srange for a citizen who has clearly only his voice as his action.
You're a blind idiot. Learn to read.


Now you have the awesome idea which you should have had yesterday. That town needs the ghost to win this. A bit late don´t you agree? Also you never ever ever accused Lord Varys as scum. Every second post of him is full of scum tells and you never said a thing.
That's because I don't know if Lord Varys is scum and his votes actually all seemed fairly pro town so far, though yours don't. I knew that he was telling the truth about receiving armour though and so I also knew that he wasn't cult. Ser Jorah lied about receiving armour night 5 because I got the armour then. Did you notice that Ser Jorah copied the cat avatar from Lord Varys? I put 2 and 2 together and decided that that night 1 armour received claim of his was true. The thing is that he claimed serf in the same post, when he requested to be masoned. Not everyone has the guts to make such a claim under those circumstances if they are scum, so I'm less suspicious of him than I am of some other people.

People like you, who are spreading lies in day chat about my voting patterns.

[Cersei]

Oh I did also vote Khal Drogo. But his behaviour in day chat was scummy as heck so you can't really blame me.

[Cersei]

This scenario is unlikely for so many reasons. It's basically impossible.
Unlikely is better than completely impossible, which is what we'll have if nothing happens with those AFKers and neither of the AFKers is mafia...

Don't forget the possibility that one of the red mafia may be AFK (not entirely likely but still), so if we lynch the one that's still participating only Oberyn will kill at night and he probably won't target you, because he'll think that the red mafia might kill you.

[Ser Loras]

I believe that neither of the AFKers is mafia, from what information I have gathered. Ceresi, why are you not wanting to lynch Oberyn? Literally everyone in the game stands to gain from his death. Especially you, mister Graverobber.

[Ser Ilyn]

A few things.

One who cares if the graverobber gave the godfather armor. As it is the godfather is immune and after today the red mafia will be the only KPN left so it doesnt matter (besides the fact that Joffrey didnt get it).

Today we lynch Oberyn and reduce the KPN and then -pray that Loras and Samwell stop being douches and show up.

Vote Oberyn

[Cersei]

I believe that neither of the AFKers is mafia, from what information I have gathered. Ceresi, why are you not wanting to lynch Oberyn? Literally everyone in the game stands to gain from his death. Especially you, mister Graverobber.

If I were the graverobber, then yes I would stand to gain from it. And that's exactly why I'm not going to vote him.

Lynch Oberyn today = Joffrey dead tomorrow
4v2

4 votes needed to lynch. Even if 3 of us vote on the same person there won't be a lynch. If you look at the timing of the serf claims, it makes no sense that anyone other than Ser Ilyn or Ser Loras is the graverobber, due to "investigation risk"
Samwell - Day 2
Cersei - Day 3
Sandor - Day 5
Lord Varys - Day 5
Ser Ilyn - Day 7
Ser Loras hasn't claimed anything

Now if we lynch Ser Loras and he's the graverobber there's a small chance Oberyn hits the godfather tonight. It will then be:
4v1v1 (assuming Joffrey dies)

We will then easily be able to lynch Oberyn with 3 active townies and a ghost possession on Samwell or maybe even Oberyn himself.

If Ser Loras flips citizen, there's a small chance Oberyn hits the graverobber tonight and we'll have the same scenario.

If Ser Loras flips citizen and Oberyn kills another citizen it'll be 2v2v1. This one is a lost scenario for town, HOWEVER the red mafia will have no reason not to lynch Oberyn with you, so you can just possess a town player and end it there (or the town can just vote with you because they will have no reason not to).

The only votes I will consider right now are Ser Loras or Ser Ilyn because they are the most likely graverobbers by far (the godfather can be any of the serf claimers or even Ser Loras). The downside to lynching Ser Ilyn is that if he does flip citizen, it will take longer before you can get the required votes to lynch Oberyn again.

For me it isn't a matter of dragging the game, it's the only tiny chance lft for the town to win this and I see no reason to give up just yet.

Let's quote the final tallies on red maf members and other relevant tallies...
Bronn(14): Oberyn, Jon, Janos, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Cersei, Samwell, Catelyn, Stannis, Khal Drogo, Viserys, Aemon, Yoren, Joffrey
(Sandor and Lord Varys not on there)

Ser Rodrik (10) – Cersei, Daenerys, Sandor, Ser Jorah, Khal Drogo, Petyr, Robb, Aemon, Lord Varys, Joffrey
Sandor (4) – Oberyn, Ser Rodrik, Ser Illyn, Stannis
(Samwell not on there, Ser Ilyn voting Sandor (who was at a real risk of being lynched L-2))

Tywin (9) = Sandor, Melisandre, Petyr, Stannis, Robb, Ser Jorah, Daenerys, Cersei, Lord Varys
Sandor (3) = Oberyn, Ser Ilyn, Joffrey
(Samwell not on there, Ser Ilyn voted Sandor (no real risk of being lynched))
Right now my red mafia suspects are:
Godfather:
Sandor 1st / Lord Varys 2nd
Graverobber:
Ser Loras / Ser Ilyn toss-up...

So vote Ser Loras because he is AFK and can't be valuable in any scenario.

[Ser Loras]

Joffery is dead no matter what we do. Why the fuck do you want 2 KPN?

[Ser Loras]

If the graverobber is left alive and you rely on my possession, he can easily fuck it up via swapping if he guesses who I possess correctly.

[Ser Loras]

If the graverobber is left alive and you rely on my possession, he can easily fuck it up via swapping if he guesses who I possess correctly.

that's the important part

sorry about spammmmmmm

[Cersei]

Ah crap.. he can use the ability twice before he has to take it again. -_-

Well, if you're willing to trust my judgement and one of those 2 players is indeed the graverobber, then you can possess the one we don't lynch and he won't be able to switch you.

[Cersei]

Actually screw it, the roles list is probably this now that I look at those tallies again.

1. Richard The Flayer - Lord Varys
2. Graverobber - Ser Ilyn
3. Anya Nighthawk - Oberyn
4. Investigator - Joffrey
5. Serf - Cersei
6. Serf - Samwell
7. Serf - Ser Loras
8. Serf - Sandor

Lord Varys dropped his vote on Tywin on the last second because it was a favourable lynch to him. He only voted Ser Rodrik because he was confirmed idiot scum and it may even be possible that they kicked Rodrik out of their night chat already because he didn't want to kill Ser Gregor (if we have to believe Bronn's last will on that subject). Lord Varys's post when he voted Rodrik was almost apologetic.


-Vote Rodrik

Lynching Cult Leader > Lynching Scum > Lynching Town > No Lynch

I don't like that we are lynching a person who is almost certainly not Cult Leader, but I know a loseing battle when I see one. I have found Rodrik very scummy for the last few days, and his claim makes him preaty much confirmed scum.

I know how unlikely it is that I will get targeted by the cult again, so cult needs to die for me to win. Let's hope something good happens over-night.

Ser Ilyn is the graverobber. He still drools scumminess all over his posts and hasn't voted any mafia since Bronn, plus he basically copied Sandor's point of view to fake being against Lord Varys.

The red mafia just isn't arguing because we're doing a pretty good job arguing amongst ourselves. Derp.

vote Lord Varys

Oberyn can kill Ser Ilyn if he wants.

[Cersei]

A few things.

One who cares if the graverobber gave the godfather armor. As it is the godfather is immune and after today the red mafia will be the only KPN left so it doesnt matter (besides the fact that Joffrey didnt get it).

Today we lynch Oberyn and reduce the KPN and then -pray that Loras and Samwell stop being douches and show up.

Vote Oberyn

Knows that the godfather got the armour.. even though it would've been smarter to swap Joffrey with someone who wasn't immune so if Oberyn decided to kill Joffrey, they would've had one less town player to worry about. He is the graverobber who is barely paying attention to the game and he's not the sharpest tack in the drawer.

Yesterday:




I thought Sandor was scum, but I thought he was cult more specifically and since he really cant be that anymore I trust him. Why not? There is still 1 cultist left alive. Who do you think it is?Petyr the dude who pretty much claimed cultist (and it wasnt the ghost that made it so as I recall).
Way too certain that Sandor is "trustworthy" while there wasn't really anything to prove that he wasn't mafia or cult. Could either mean that Sandor is mafia with him or he was trying to make friends. Either way he knew too much.

Ser Ilyn's "lol prove it" defense is exactly the same as Ser Rodrik's. It's almost comical. I would vote Ser Ilyn but I need people to shut up about me allying with Lord Varys. Lynching me is just about the dumbest thing the town could possibly do, aside from lynching Joffrey.

[Ser Ilyn]

Knows that the godfather got the armour.. even though it would've been smarter to swap Joffrey with someone who wasn't immune so if Oberyn decided to kill Joffrey, they would've had one less town player to worry about. He is the graverobber who is barely paying attention to the game and he's not the sharpest tack in the drawer.

Yesterday:


Way too certain that Sandor is "trustworthy" while there wasn't really anything to prove that he wasn't mafia or cult. Could either mean that Sandor is mafia with him or he was trying to make friends. Either way he knew too much.

Ser Ilyn's "lol prove it" defense is exactly the same as Ser Rodrik's. It's almost comical. I would vote Ser Ilyn but I need people to shut up about me allying with Lord Varys. Lynching me is just about the dumbest thing the town could possibly do, aside from lynching Joffrey.

Who else would get the armor? Would he have swapped Joffrey with you >.> that's kinda a no brainer.

In what part of that post did I say I was certain Sandor wasnt scum? I said I thought that if he was scum he was cult and since he clearly wasnt cult I dont have any real reason to suspect him so I trust him but I never said he wasnt scum.

I find it funny that youre trying so hard to direct the lynch off of Oberyn when it would result in an instant KPN reduction.

The sad fact of the matter is that youve been saying I "drool scumminess in all my posts" yet youve failed to provide one example while I can name a few examples off the top of my head without even thinking (see below). You say my voting patterns are scummy but youve failed to provide one example. Youve tried to take the focus off of Oberyn the obvious lynch by discussing the possibility that Loras could be mafia voting and then quickly changing the subject back to me. You try to detract from the fact that Varys has been buddying with you by voting him even though the damage is already done.

Also youre hardly one to talk about being the sharpest tack in the drawer. Where I guessed 3 scum and was right about other things like Melisandre youve done nothing but change the topic and draw attention to yourself. I think you mightve had a chance if you werent so derpy (though youre not as bad as the rest of this town I will give you that).

[Cersei]

So you trust mafia scum but not cult scum? That makes sense. If you're mafia.

You refused to join in any votes against mafia members because you were "searching for the cult leader," which was plain dumb because we might as well let the mafia do that. Where would we be now if we had lynched serfs to find the cult leader? That's right, we'd be losing very hard with 4-5 mafia still alive.

Why I'm trying to get the focus off Oberyn should be obvious. If 2 of the active "serf club" are mafia and we lynch Oberyn now, we will need both Samwell and Ser Loras to magically become active again. ONE would be highly unexpected, BOTH would be a miracle. And the longer we drag this day, the greater the chance that one of them does return on time to join a lynch tomorrow. Hurrying it along now only benefits the mafia. They will NOT accidentally shoot the other mafia because of limited info because if we lynch Oberyn, there will only be townies to shoot.


Also youre hardly one to talk about being the sharpest tack in the drawer. Where I guessed 3 scum and was right about other things like Melisandre youve done nothing but change the topic and draw attention to yourself.
I guessed more of them and actually helped to lynch them when it was important. Sure, I've done nothing but change the topic from Sandor (who was a dumb lynch because he's a serf/godfather and we needed to keep both alive at that point in order to deal with the cult) and led the train to Ser Rodrik who was red mafia (I asked the jailor to kill him before, but he was too dumb), I added some spotlight to Yoren who got shot as a result, I sided with Melisandre on day 7 because I noticed that she knew too much and suspected that Tywin was orange mafia, which we needed to lynch to cut down mafia numbers some more. I think I did a whole load more for this town than you ever did.


I think you mightve had a chance if you werent so derpy (though youre not as bad as the rest of this town I will give you that)
Thanks for admitting you are mafia, mr graverobber.

vote Ser Ilyn

Lynch this guy people, he just gave himself away.

[Forum Mafia GM]

If both the silver bullets of the Vigilante are used up, can the graverobber still steal from him at night to shoot people?
They're capped at the limit. What the vigilante did in life has no impact on it however.

And if everyone agrees, I'd be happy to modkill the AFK players right now. So if you want to put together a separate tally for that, go ahead.

[Cersei]

I'm for modkills of the AFKers, so long as Jon's vote still counts today.

If they do get modkilled, we will have to lynch the red godfather today though. It'll probably be 2v1v1 tomorrow.. possibly 3v1 if we get lucky or 3v1v1 if some armour stops a kill.

We still have 10.5 hours left.

[Cersei]

Also, looks like the red mafia will have 2 KPN tonight if we don't lynch one of them. So let's do that...

[Sandor]

I think no one got armor. They probably drove the Armorsmith with Joffrey while they attacked Joffrey to hit the Armorsmith.

So The Arrmorsmith would give the armor to himself and die. One less armor to bother tonight. If Joffrey got the last piece of course. Maybe somebody else did.

[Ser Ilyn]

Thanks for admitting you are mafia, mr graverobber.

vote Ser Ilyn

Lynch this guy people, he just gave himself away.

I find it funny that your proof that I am mafia is a statement which youve taken out of context. Kinda like the Sandor trust thing too.

Question: how would the modkill affect the ghost possession today?

If Im not mistaken then Ive got some bad news.

[Sandor]

Grave robber op. Town up. Back to diablo 3. I ll hammer what you like i don´t give a fuck anymore.


-lord Varys


Same shit, different day.

[Sandor]

it does not matter which one of the red mafia goes at this point go oberyn luna wants you to win this

[Sandor]

I rather take the night immune mafia out btw.

[Cersei]

Fine.

Vote Lord Varys

I still don't know for sure if it's you or him, but the gamble has to be made sometime.

[Cersei]

I find it funny that your proof that I am mafia is a statement which youve taken out of context. Kinda like the Sandor trust thing too.

Question: how would the modkill affect the ghost possession today?

If Im not mistaken then Ive got some bad news.

That the modkill will result in an Oberyn lynch if the votes stay in the same place? Yeah, that's true. I find it funny that you're not unvoting, knowing that.

[Cersei]

I suppose either of us could have hammered Oberyn to win if we were mafia though, so it's probably Varys and Ilyn.

[Cersei]

By the way, there is no other context for that line I quoted Ilyn.

By saying "you might have had a chance" you basically point at me alone or me and someone else (the town), but you excluded yourself. Otherwise you would've said "we."

[Sandor]

Yeah its him and Varys, They don't contribute anything past the last 3 game days. Also i heard someone can't logg into his account anymore because his password got changed ;)

[Sandor]

Btw If i understand it right. The Coroner s secondary ability is to disable the corpses to get robbed right? He did check the bus driver on night 5.

Since the grave robber takes the ability before the coroner can seal the corpse (order of operations), he could only could have taken it on that night.

So the question is. Did he vote the jester and got "lucky" on his night action target.

or

Did he not vote on the jester. I think he did not vote on the jester.

Ser Gregor[12] - Sandor, Petyr, Khal Drogo, Daenerys, Viserys, Stannis, Lord Varys, Ser Rodrik, Ser Davos, Joffrey, Oberyn, Melisandre
Khal Drogo[1] - Cersei

Ser Illyn did not vote, Samwell did not vote, Ser Loras did not vote.

Cersei voted on Khal Drogo

Also remember that we miss 1 mafia kill on night 6. The red mafia skipped their kill completely because they feared random.org. The godfather probably decided that picking up the bus driver ability would be more beneficial for his team at this point. Maybe he thought the Coroner would seal the corpse that day.

So who shall it be?

[Sandor]

Those are the 3 people i will vote for. Lord Varys, Ser Illyn and Oberyn.

If Ser Loras is really a mafia who abandoned day chat and only does his night actions he misses the point of the game.

[Sandor]

They only thing who stands against Ser Ilyn´s guilt is his vote on bronn. he was vote number 3.

[Ser Loras]

ngffffffffffffffffffffffffdddsfdsgdf

fine

-vote Lord Varys

If this guy isn't graverobber I'm going to be BOTHERED in a NONHARMFUL WAY.

[Lord Varys]

I confess to being graverobber, NOT GF. The easiest way to victory if I die is to kill Sandor and Cersei, then tie with Anya, which equals loss for ghost. Do the math Jon. Help me and you can have an easy win. Lynch me, and you could actualy end up losing with a joint-victory.

[Sandor]

He is godfather. Not grave robber. Or he was the most lucky grave robber ever getting the bus driver at the jester lynch night.

[Oberyn]

Hmmm... Well thats interesting. Why shouldn't I kill the obvious town Joffrey tonight?

[Lord Varys]

He is godfather. Not grave robber. Or he was the most lucky grave robber ever getting the bus driver at the jester lynch night.Your logic has been flawed the whole way through. I didn't get the bus driver ability N5. I got it N6. I carried out the random kill N5.

[Sandor]

blah blah. I meant night 6. u derp. And also ... ha ha :-p

[Sandor]

Then Stannis talked shit. Or the stuff about the coroner rolecard was purely rp. I think we should add more missleading rp to any rolecards from this game on.

[Sandor]

Yeah please kill me tonight!

[Sandor]

You know nobody would give me armor just do it!

[Oberyn]

Yeah please kill me tonight!

Ok. =)

[Sandor]

Thx =)

[Ser Loras]

I confess to being graverobber, NOT GF. The easiest way to victory if I die is to kill Sandor and Cersei, then tie with Anya, which equals loss for ghost. Do the math Jon. Help me and you can have an easy win. Lynch me, and you could actualy end up losing with a joint-victory.
show me you're willing

vote oberyn for dead person 2012

and get your other maf buddy to do that too

[Ser Loras]

Mainly what I'm concerned about is the fact that with 2 red mafia, my vote, and oberyn voting himself, that's only four.

This better not go no-lynch

-vote Oberyn

[Oberyn]

-vote Ser Loras

:p

[Ser Loras]

Bring it on bro, you can't kill me, you already tried that AND FAILED.

[Lord Varys]

Mainly what I'm concerned about is the fact that with 2 red mafia, my vote, and oberyn voting himself, that's only four.

This better not go no-lynch

-vote Oberyn

Sorry buddy, we already are. Town has as good as lost. We are your best chance of victory. As long as you play your part well and make smart possesion choices, you can easily still win with us. Trust me, I would are convert won alone then haveing to tie it up, but we will have to rely on Oberyn if worst comes to worst. However, we still have more power and have been assiting you much more then the town.

We have an extra bullet btw. Plenty of destruction for tonight.:p

[Oberyn]

Plenty of destruction for tonight.:p

My night chat has gotten lonely.. Can I join yours? :idea:

[Lord Varys]

My night chat has gotten lonely.. Can I join yours? :idea:

If this was FMX and I didn't have an angry ghost to satisfy, of course you could dear:)

[Oberyn]

I didn't play FMX, what game mechanic allowed someone to join chats?

[Lord Varys]

You can offer alliances with Evil Neutrals if both you and them publically reveal. (Beware! Town can pretend to be evil to expose you)

Only 1 mafia in FMX, but the princibles still applied.

[Lord Varys]

@Jon: While I do understand your urgency, and I cannot promise not to use the vigilante gun to add an extra kill, I can tell you that town has victory odds right around 0. When there is next to no chance of winning, people become unpredicitble, and may choose wierd lynch targets. People who have a chance of winning will be stable with there choices. You would do much better to help me survive then assisting people who have a proven track record to shut down under preasure (cough cough, Sandor). Besides, you should be trying to stall, not trying to kill people other then your target and are willing to help.

[Cersei]

vote Modkill AFK newbs

[Sandor]

Well at least i don't have to join games with a smurf account. To gain advantages in the first place ;)

[Oberyn]

Now now Jon, who has helped you win more than anyone else? Your first goal was to get killed. I sent Robb to kill you. Then I also eliminated the last cult to prevent Robb from having any chance of winning. Seems like I have satisfied both your win conditions. =)

vote Modkill AFK newbs

[Sandor]

Dude Grim can't logg into his old account because the password was changed from the ghost possession. So yeah. Technically only Ser Leoras is afk.

[Sandor]

-vote Oberyn

He wont logg in before the day ends.

Bye Oberyn!

[Cersei]

We should still remove Ser Loras imo.

[Cersei]

If we do remove him, we'll have enough votes tomorrow to get rid of the red mafia...

[Oberyn]

I would like to take this opportunity to role-claim. I am the doctor. I have healed Cersei all game long. Which means that Joffrey must be a consig.

[Cersei]

Crap! Unvote now guys!

[Sandor]

Oh wait i forgot about Joffrey, Still Oberyn has to vote on Lord Varys as well then.

-Lord Varys

This will only work with Oberyn´s help though. Be advised Oberyn it is your only chance to win this asl well. Or you swhoot Ser Illyn tonight the grave robber. It is your call though.

[Sandor]

The poor guy who will get MVP for this game. It's like an insult :D

[Ser Loras]

pss guys I already voted Oberyn.

Is that 4 on Oberyn?

Vote Modkill AFK players

[Cersei]

Ser Jorah didn't do too badly imo, but I think the most successful player was Jon.

Red mafia couldn't even win without help from AFKers.

[Cersei]

Bronn was bad, Ser Rodrik was bad, Ser Ilyn was bad, Lord Varys was the only decent mafia in day chat, and even so he was found out yesterday by Sandor.

Despite the weird revelation from Oberyn I still think orange mafia was better in day chat lol.

[Lord Varys]

Sorry Lorrel, but town is trying to manipulate Oberyn through my vote. If Sandor hammered, congrats, you win. However, if that didn't count, Oberyn isn't going to be lynched today.

-Unvote

[Ser Loras]

let me cry now

okay done

[Cersei]

It wasn't a hammer because Oberyn unvoted himself.

[Lord Varys]

let me cry now

okay done

There there

[Lord Varys]

-Vote kill AFK players

[Lord Varys]

Bronn was bad, Ser Rodrik was bad, Ser Ilyn was bad, Lord Varys was the only decent mafia in day chat, and even so he was found out yesterday by Sandor.

Despite the weird revelation from Oberyn I still think orange mafia was better in day chat lol.

Don't spend too much time going through the what-if's. If there wasn't any AFK players, Oberyn would have been lynched, then I would turn on the charm D10 to get someone else lynched, or maybe even latched onto you so that you would have gotten lynched D11.

Who knows.

[Cersei]

If we can AFK modkill Ser Loras, get Samwell back and lynch Lord Varys, town has this and we can remove Oberyn tomorrow (if Joffrey shows up and we get a hand from Jon and Oberyn, that is).

It's basically up to Jon and Oberyn who wins.

I really doubt you would've succeeded to lynch me with help from the town.

[Lord Varys]

It's basically up to Jon and Oberyn who wins.
Thats a nice spin. Makes it sound very much like it makes no difference who they choose, and they should just jump on the side of good. That isn't how it's working. Town may once again be giving up, but everyone else is here to win.

[Lord Varys]

If I could pick one human to be my personal sex slave when this is all over, it would be you Cersei:p

[Cersei]

Well, for them it doesn't make a difference, does it? It's pretty much impossible for Oberyn to win and as long as Oberyn loses, Jon wins.

I'm not saying what they should or shouldn't do, but it should be obvious what I want them to do. The simple truth is that we're at their mercy and so are you. You don't control this town, they do. You can still lose if they want that to happen.

[Lord Varys]

Well, for them it doesn't make a difference, does it? It's pretty much impossible for Oberyn to win and as long as Oberyn loses, Jon wins.

I'm not saying what they should or shouldn't do, but it should be obvious what I want them to do. The simple truth is that we're at their mercy and so are you. You don't control this town, they do. You can still lose if they want that to happen.

That is the point you are missing. Atm, I doubt they are thinkg "Hmm, Lord Varys is a sexy beast. He deserves to win". No one is guaranteed to have won yet.

[Cersei]

The point I am missing is that you are saying I'm right? Lulz.

Jon is guaranteed to have won.

[Cersei]

To win*

Derp.

[Forum Mafia GM]

I gave Samwell a new password more than 12 hours ago. Stop using that excuse as a crutch. I'm already pissed off that you people broke the one rule I set for you.

[Ser Ilyn]

Vote modkill AFK serfs.

OK thank you Varys: I've been wanting to kill myself because typing with that ridiculous style has been annoying (no punctuation = no soul). Here's what it comes down to: today, after the modkill, it will be a 1v2v3. Because the ghost will want to lynch Oberyn (anything else would be gamethrowing because it gives him a chance to win), it's either Oberyn or no one and then we win tomorrow when we have 50% of the vote. If you guys don't cooperate, then you guys still lose because it's a no lynch today and tomorrow at least one of you will be dead making it a 2v1v2 at best where you guys can't lynch without the ghost and he will be gunning for Oberyn. If you lynch Varys today, then you're all douches and I'm going to help Oberyn win to spite Jon and you pitiful excuse for a town... it's over. I'm not even gonna go into what happens if the serfs aren't modkilled because I think it's pretty self explanatory.

[Ser Ilyn]

Hey Oberyn: with 2 mafia, 3 town, and a ghost all gunning for you, would you mind just revoting yourself because you know you can't possibly win (trust me: it's impossible if the ghost knows what he's doing)? We appreciate the sacrifice you made to fight the cult and we were happy to finish the job, but we would really appreciate it if you just went down peacefully :D

[Sandor]

Hey Illin how about bussing your teammate again? You did it once before :D

[Sandor]

If we use your logic Oberyn would game throw as well if he would not vote Lord Varys today. Hipocrites unite!

[Sandor]

Hey Oberyn, let me live and vote Lord varys out. I will help u winning. Team red doesn´t deserve to win this.

[Lord Varys]

@Jon: Sandor is not going to live to see the next sunrise. I highly recommend you do not try and possess him.

[Sandor]

All Oberyn has to do is shooting Ser Illyn tonight because he is the grave robber not you :)

[Cersei]

@Oberyn: Please kill Ser Ilyn tonight. They let you and us do all the work for them, might as well give them a run for their money.

[Ser Loras]

inb4 Ser Ilyn godfather and red mafia kills Joffery and Sandor.

[Ser Loras]

We can just kill Oberyn now if you don't like me anymore. It gets rid of me.

[Lord Varys]

-Vote Oberyn

Lets try this one last time.

[Ser Ilyn]

lol you guys did all the work. We shot the actual cult leader and we're actively pushing for cult lynches but you guys did all the work.

Also how about me guessing 2 out of 4 of the orange mafia: how's that for deserving the win? Also we were actually going to support you guys if the cult got too powerful, but now that things are back to normal we're just going to give the ghost his win and take what is rightfully ours. By the way, I wouldn't advise possessing either myself or Varys tomorrow because you KNOW we'll vote for Oberyn.

It's either Oberyn or a no lynch today: plain and simple.

[Cersei]

You mean you were pushing for serf lynches...

It's really too bad Ser Jorah wrote in that last will that I got multiple vests... Now they aren't of any use.

[Forum Mafia GM]

No one had been put to the sword, ahehehehe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpc5_3B5xdk


Vote Tally
Oberyn [3] - Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Ser Loras
Lord Varys [2] - Sandor, Cersei
Ser Loras [1] - Oberyn

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