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Forum Mafia GM
May 18th, 2012, 10:30 PM
For the first time in many days, the citizens of Adelaide woke to the sun's splendor shining down upon them. Most who saw the sight spent a good majority of their first moments of day staring up at it, unbelieving. Many learned the folly of doing so, their eyes likely damaged irreversibly as a result. Few cared. What had brought about the sudden end to the darkness that had descended upon the world was unclear until later that morning.

The first to be discovered that morning was Daenerys, found slumped against the door of her home, eyes closed peacefully. Two bite wounds adorned her neck, and that was the only thing that seemed off about her appearance at all. Otherwise, she seemed as if she was in a deep, relaxed sleep. After dispatching her from her perch against the door, the guards searched her home thoroughly, but like those who had been found the day before, discovered nothing particularly noteworthy about her. It was determined that she was a simple Serf.

Not far from Daenerys' home, Stannis was found butchered in the street, his body dismembered by an axe that was found lodged in his back. However, that was not the only damage he seemed to have incurred the previous night, as his badly abused arms showed signs of being flayed as well. When the guards went to search his home, they found signs of a man whom worked closely with the dead. Embalming fluid lay upon the table, as well as a crowbar. A shovel still stained with fresh dirt was found resting on a table in his bedroom. They concluded this man was likely a Mortician working in less than favorable circumstances. It seemed he had finally joined the ranks of the dead he worked so closely with in life.

When the guards finally made their way to Cathedral Square, however, the question that had been on everyone's mind that morning was finally answered. At the top of the stairs, an oddity was discovered worth at least an appraising glance. The great doors of the Cathedral, which had been closed up until this point, hiding the abominable sight of desecration within, now laid ajar. A group of guards gathered before the steps, and ascended forth to investigate. What they found, however, quickly spread through the survivors like a wildfire. The body of Janos was found at the foot of the altar, the corpse of a woman laid across his lap, which had been stained with the gore of those who had shared the same resting place as him. The altar, however, was all that was intact of the main foyer of the Cathedral. Pews lay scattered, some upon their sides, others standing in unorthodox positions that no mortal man could produce. Pillars, once whole, had been sheared by some unexplained force, chunks of marble flooring ripped apart by no scientific means. Whatever had occurred here was unexplainable and frightening, but also awe-inspiring to behold.

Getting over their initial shock, the guards inspected the body, finding a bullet hole pierced through Janos' skull, the remnants of the silver bullet that had dealt the fatal blow lodged within the stone altar behind him. Despite only being dead for hours, already Janos' features had already begun to lose their human quality, revealing the qualities of some horrific demonic visage instead. Clearly, this man was not human, but nor did he seem similar to the vampires encountered thus far either. Pondering this fact, they decided to inspect the woman who lay splayed across his lap instead of reaching a hasty conclusion.

What they discovered brought some slight clarity. as upon close inspection it was determined that the remnants of the woman was once known as Melisandre, though few could sparsely imagine how. Her hands were stained with blood, assumedly her own, having clawed out her own eyes in the process of death. A dagger lay clenched in her first, and a piercing wound rested above where her heart once was. Amongst her person, the same signs that they had discovered upon Jaime became evident, with some added horror. Her body, while lithe and imaginably beautiful, was found twisted and disfigured beneath what clothing covered her. The dark magic that had fueled her pitiful existence until this point had seemingly turned upon her form, and where the dark veins that had been found upon Jaime met skin, rotting flesh could be found in fair supply. It seemed that this foul creature's body could no longer sustain the power that had been worked upon it, and having found her clutching the man she lay upon, it became clear what had occurred here.

It seemed, at long last, that the creature known to the world as Count Dracula had fallen to the machinations of man.

He left a last will:
Since my death seems so imminent, might as well write one, so here's my last will:

In all honesty, cult deserved to win this game. I don't care what you say on how overpowered we are, YOU are the cause why we were overpowered. You had 7 days and 7 nights to kill me. Your Masons failed you. Your PRs were clueless. Your Mafia had no idea who cult were. The reason I lost my autovest wasn't even due to the Mafia aiming their night kill at me. We lost 1 member through the entire course of this week, and even that was because Jaime was confirmed town from being the executioner's target. No one even came close to suspecting I was Dracula except Sandor. He hit the nail on the head on the way I was aiming to play. Should have listened more to him, eh?

Town, I disdain you. Mafia, I despise you. When the town is willing to even protect the Godfather who blatantly revealed himself, this game has lost its meaning. Completely shameful. It's no longer a Town vs Mafia vs Cult game. It's a Town AND Mafia vs Cult game. Again, I could care less about your opinions on that. Don't even get me started on the mechanics of this game that were skewed against us. The rant would last several pages.

I hope you all die. Really.

Sincerely,
Your Freaking Dracula with a Chainsaw.

When they searched Melisandre's home, it was discovered that before being twisted by foul magic, she had been a petty criminal, whom had recently begun using her skill in the craft to aid humanity in it's struggle against the vampires who descended upon Adelaide. Thus, she was a Snoop.

She left a last will:
Greetings Town.

If you see this, I have been killed and I will flip Cult. I am/was a Snoop (Detective). Unfortunately for you, I am not Dracula. However, fortunately for you, I have some information.

The town and Dracula have similar goals: to eliminate the mafia. To help you in this endeavor, we tried to recruit Oberyn and failed to do so. He was not given armor (if he claims as much, I highly doubt it. The Bishop already marked him for protection, not like it would do any good anyway).

Here are my night actions:

N1: Followed Petyr. Took no action.
N2: Followed Joffrey. Visited Ser Davos.
N3: Jailed by Ser Davos (hence my role-block claim. I corroborated Robb's claim because I was indeed role-blocked, just not by an Escort/Consort. He very well could have tried blocking me that night, but I didn't feel the need to correct him. The jailor asked me to keep silent about being jailed.)
N4: Followed Viserys. Visited Oberyn.
N5: Role-blocked.

Lord Varys also has a high possibility of being Godfather, since we failed to recruit him as well (a convenient time to claim protected by the armor, indeed, likely intending to draw out the Armorsmith so they could kill him).

Good luck, Town. You cannot rely on the Mafia to kill each other off, because they would rather destroy the Town first and foremost. That is...until you remove the head of the snake.

With the curse on Adelaide lifted, one final struggle commenced amongst the survivors. If they were to survive, no other group could live.

Role List:



Richard The Flayer
Nosferatu Devout
Anya Nighthawk
Child of the Stars
Random Town
Random Town
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf


Possible Random Roles:
Vampires(Nosferatu Devout/Child of the Stars): Trapper(Inteceptor), Illusionist(Disguiser), Bloodmage(Grave Robber), Seductress/Playboy(Consort), Butcher(Janitor), Diabolist(Framer), Larcenist(Consigliere)
Town: Sergeant (Sheriff), Spy (Investigator), Snoop (Detective), Carriage Driver (Bus Driver), Sentinel (Lookout), Apothecary (Doctor), Mortician (Coroner), Gaelor (Jailor), Schizophreniac (Veteran), Fiddler (Escort), Tinkerer (Gunsmith), Blacksmith (Armorsmith)
Cursed: Pupil (Student), Fool (Jester), Nemesis (Executioner), Necrophiliac (Amnesiac), Phantom (Ghost), Coward (Survivor)
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Graveyard:
Arya (Serf) - Found brutalized in her home, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Syrio (Nemesis) - Found slumped over the body of his deceased children, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Eddard (Butcher) - Found eviscerated and tortured in the Cathedral Square, tied to a table. (Night 2)
Ser Berristan (Sergeant) - Found dead in Cathedral Square, drained of blood. (Night 2)
Renly (Carriage Driver) - His head was found within his blood stained carriage, a bear trap chained to it's rear axle. (Night 3)
Theon (Serf) - Found dead outside his home, impaled with a multitude of sharpened stakes, his throat torn. (Night 3)
Jaime (Serf) - Found dead in an alley, twisted by black magic and cut to shreds. (Night 3)
Bronn (Larcenist) - Executed in the blessed fountain in front of Adelaide Cathedral. (Day 4)
Catelyn (Paladin) - Found in the street, dismembered by her own blade. (Night 4)
Yoren (Warlock) - Found dead in his home, shot in the back of the head. (Night 4)
Tyrion (Dr. Adolf von Helsing) - Found in the cellar of Yoren's home, his eyes removed, with a bear trap clasped around his ankle. (Night 4)
Jon (Phantom) - Presumed dead, his house inflicted by a terrible curse that will likely never lift. (Night 4)
Ser Gregor (Fool) - Sentenced to death, his final performance claiming his own life and that of the nearest guardsman. (Day 5)
Viserys (Bishop) - Cause of death unknown, though those present remarked he smelled strongly of garlic. (Night 5)
Ser Davos (Gaelor) - Found dead near Viserys, stabbed countless times, his face mutilated. (Night 5)
Ser Rodrik (Seductress) - Executed in Cathedral Square, her head lopped off by a silver sword. (Day 6)
Aemon (Serf) - Found dead in his home, drained of blood. (Night 6)
Khal Drogo (Serf) - Found dead in his home, tortured heavily, his throat torn open. (Night 6)
Tywin (Trapper) - Executed in Cathedral Square, impaled by a plethora of lances. (Day 7)
Daenerys (Serf) - Found dead in front of her home, drained of blood. (Night 7)
Stannis (Mortician) - Found dead in the street, his body dismembered by an axe. (Night 7)
Janos (Count Dracula) - Found dead in the cathedral, shot through the head by a silver bullet. (Night 7)
Melisandre (Snoop) - Found upon her master's lap, her eyes gouged out, a dagger wound through the heart. (Night 7)
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The day will end at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=St+Louis+Missouri+12%3A30+am.+Monday+May+21+201 2

You require 6 votes to lynch. Once a hammer vote has been cast, it cannot be undone.

I recommend you vote wisely.

Petyr
May 18th, 2012, 10:39 PM
-vote Oberyn

No cult leader = we don't need you anymore.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:41 PM
And now we wait.

Let us eat, shall we.
Take this bread.

Baruch atah adonai, eloheinu melech ha'olam, hamotzi lechem min ha'aretz. Amen.

This wine as well.

Baruch atah adonai, eloheinu melech ha'olam, borei p'ri hagafen.

May God have mercy upon our souls.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:41 PM
-vote Oberyn

Good riddance, old friend.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:43 PM
The continuation of the final scene of Godspell will continue in my last will.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Also the grave robber has to pick a new skill tonight. Lets get it over with vote Oberyn out. To reduce kpn down to 1. Whoever shot the Coroner of you guys is kinda dumb.

-vote Oberyn

If you check the voting patterns you will realize Cersei never voted never on red mafia members he is apparently the red godfather suspect number 1 also Lord catface is probably the Grave robber who shot the Cult leader. Also through voting pattern analysis.

lets crunch some numbers.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Cersei, also known as Richard the Flayer, you shall be lynched tomorrow.
It has been confirmed.
You played well, sir.

Forum Mafia GM
May 18th, 2012, 10:49 PM
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Petyr
May 18th, 2012, 10:50 PM
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Just tell me who to vote for bro.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 10:51 PM
shut up scum, The one eyed is the king under the blind. You guys canīt cult anymore what can you possibly do? Roleblocking one of the scum?

-unvote Oberyn

We have time lets think this out some more.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:53 PM
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Remember when you told us that we were all dead.
Good times.

Petyr
May 18th, 2012, 10:55 PM
shut up scum, The one eyed is the king under the blind. You guys canīt cult anymore what can you possibly do? Roleblocking one of the scum?

-unvote Oberyn

We have time lets think this out some more.

I didn't realize you wanted 2 KPN. Proceed then.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Also i applaud our awesome Armorsmith who supplied scum the whole game with Armor. Good job for not breaking the FM history of failing smiths.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 10:58 PM
DUDE the GM said to me! I have to vote wisely! So i have to think a little about it. Cuz i donīt wanna make him even more angry! Now let me think a little. Also we have 48 hours time. No need to rush that Oberyn lynch. Itīs him or Cersei anyway for today.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:58 PM
First, let us ask, however.

How did the THIRD kill exist.

Theoretically, it could have only been performed by a Grave Robber, taking the ability of Tyrion.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 10:58 PM
DUDE the GM said to me! I have to vote wisely! So i have to think a little about it. Cuz i donīt wanna make him even more angry! Now let me think a little. Also we have 48 hours time. No need to rush that Oberyn lynch. Itīs him or Cersei anyway for today.

He also told me that I was dead. Do I appear dead?

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:01 PM
Depends. If you keep the kpn of orange or not. Duh

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 11:02 PM
Am I dead at this very moment?

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:06 PM
Well, no. But you will be tonight or tomorrow who knows.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 11:15 PM
Sigh. It's 2:30, have a nice day.

I recommend you vote wisely.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:21 PM
Cult leader:

Pertinent Rulings: Should you die, half of your brood shall die as a result of losing their sire, rounded down.

Petyr, Robb? Number 3 where are though?

Richard The Flayer Cersei
Graverobber Lord Mew
Anya Nighthawk Oberyn

[/COLOR]Random Town Investigator Joffrey
Random Town Armorsmith Ser Catface

Serf Sandor
Serf Ser C&C noob
Serf Samwell
Serf Ser Ilias

Le Cult
Serf Petyr
Consort Robb

Samwell
May 18th, 2012, 11:25 PM
Hi guys. I'll be your Ghost for today. Anything you need? Yes? Too fucking bad.

My goal is to see the Children of the Night destroyed.

-vote Oberyn

Yesterday I possessed Khal Drago. He got deadeded.

The day before that I possessed Daenerys. That's why he suddenly was actually competent, and then went back to being a useless shit.

Any questions?

Samwell
May 18th, 2012, 11:27 PM
3 more votes on our lovely Orange Godfather, and there will be one less faction to worry about.

Robb
May 18th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Yup, that's our Jon alright.
He has made two completely incompetent serfs sound slightly non brain-dead.

Again, now that Oberyn's job here has been completed, she is our enemy. And Jon's.
Remember that.

Also, remember, remember, the 5th of November.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:40 PM
If Oberyn dies does Robb get the kpn of the orange mafia team?

You saw that comming anyway.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:48 PM
So if he does not inherit the kpn. We lynch Oberyn today. Robb blocks the Armorsmith. While Cersei will shoot one of the active town players.

Next day we have 2 afk cits. (Samwell and the c&c noob) and 5 town vs 4 scum. at 5 votes to lynch. We will have a none lynch. Well this game will still be lost for town though.

If a miracle should happen and the afk townies come back we would lynch one of the reds doesnt matter who. then the other one the next day.


Thanks to afk serfs.

So why shall we bother again?

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:50 PM
If Oberyn dies does Robb get the kpn of the orange mafia team?

You saw that comming anyway.


If Oberyn dies does Robb get the kpn of the orange mafia team even if he is culted?

Samwell
May 18th, 2012, 11:50 PM
So if he does not inherit the kpn. We lynch Oberyn today. Robb blocks the Armorsmith. While Cersei will shoot one of the active town players.

Next day we have 2 afk cits. (Samwell and the c&c noob) and 5 town vs 4 scum. at 5 votes to lynch. We will have a none lynch. Well this game will still be lost for town though.

If a miracle should happen and the afk townies come back we would lynch one of the reds doesnt matter who. then the other one the next day.


Thanks to afk serfs.

So why shall we bother again?

One afk serf, thanks. I'll be here. Really.

Maybe I'll even help if you help me lynch Oberyn today.

Forum Mafia GM
May 18th, 2012, 11:51 PM
If a godfather dies, then his members (regardless if they've been culted) may select a kill target.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:52 PM
Samwell i think you have to get ridd of robb as well.. So how about a little bargain? ;)

Samwell
May 18th, 2012, 11:54 PM
Samwell i think you have to get ridd of robb as well.. So how about a little bargain? ;)

Are you suggesting that red mafia just shoots Robb at night and gets rid of their main competition? I fail to see how eliminating the Orange mafia isn't an "everybody wins" situation.

Oh, except for Oberyn and Robb. But fuck them.

Sandor
May 18th, 2012, 11:59 PM
So we have 2 kpn no matter what we do today. The only difference is, if we lynchthe graverobber today we dont have 3 kpn tomorrow.

We have to get rid of the red team b4 orange. Now isnīt that funny. Get the graverobber today. Itīs our only chance to win this as town if the afk serfs come back.

-vote lord Varys

Can you please hold out 1 day and possess tomorrow Cersei? Pretty please? ;)

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 12:07 AM
Does the ghost also have to kill any culted members of the team that killed him, or are culted members considered to be not part of that team?

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:09 AM
Well the other scenario is to lynch Robb and Oberyn tomorrow. So the armorsmith can give out 1 additional armor to a townie the grave robber cant get another vigi shot anyway. He could pick up a jail action. but who cares? He can only execute on no lynch day. If we dont lynch a scum per day we have lost now anyway.

-unvote Lord Varys
-vote Robb

Do it like this please. Me very sleepy, me very bed nao. xD

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Just possess Cersei tomorrow and we lynch Oberyn. Itīs as easy as that and you have won.

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 12:11 AM
I'm waiting on an answer to my question before I make any moves. Personally, I think the best move is to lynch Oberyn, red mafia shoots Robb, then we can kill red mafia with the help of the one cult member or something.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:15 AM
Well i think its better to keep you around for an extra day. :-P

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 12:19 AM
If you help me, I might help you win. Oberyn wanted to play us all so that he didn't have to even try to kill any cultists at night. It didn't work (thanks Nosferatu). Let's just end his shit here.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:23 AM
If we lynch Oberyn today you will have won and canīt possess anyone anymore? How does this help us? As much as i desteste Oberyn. I really really want to see him on the graveyard believe me. But he is just not the right lynch for today.

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 12:26 AM
If we lynch Oberyn today you will have won and canīt possess anyone anymore? How does this help us? As much as i desteste Oberyn. I really really want to see him on the graveyard believe me. But he is just not the right lynch for today.

Who said I can't possess anyone after I win?

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:28 AM
Why should you?

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:32 AM
Where is the difference for you if we lynch him today or tomorrow?

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 12:35 AM
Because I'm a nice person, and because I don't want to see the red mafia win either, after shotting the guy I was hinging plan A on.

This is like plan J by the way.

Can I still possess people after I fulfill my win condition?
Do I have to kill culted members of the mafia team that killed me to win?

The difference is that tomorrow we have less people to lynch him with, by the way.

I'll change my vote (or not) after my questions about game mechanics are answered.

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 03:26 AM
Oh, by the way, Dr. Adolf Von Helsing had two (2) silver bullets. He used one before death.

I assume that graverobber inherits the number of charges that his target had on death (always having one if all charges were used).

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 04:00 AM
Don't assume any favours from the red mafia anymore. We have the power to win this by voting out each mafia team one at a time, and the red mafia need the extra KPN of the orange mafia as long as possible.

Hopefully Joffrey can help us find the graverobber - the only way he might not would be if the graverobber was culted, as well as Joffrey, and the red godfather was the one to give the order to shoot Dracula.

It's still a crapshoot to see who wins. Many people will die as we vote off the last remaining mafia. If we mislynch near the end because we can't find the remaining red mafia, then GG. The cult can also win, all they have to do is act like Town members and help us lynch mafia - once the deaths pile up and the mafia are gone, then the cult have to hope they still have people left standing who can control the vote (there'll only be like 3 people left at the end anyway).

Today will be the day where we have to comb through all the other days, and see who was significant in helping a lynch on a red mafia and who wasn't. I just can't believe Cersei is the red godfather, if so then the two town leaders to step up in this game were both scum and that's just a poor showing (but props to Cersei). I'll have to look back through the days though to see whether he was consistently anti-red mafia. I do remember one thing though; remember the Sandor vs. Ser Rodrik lynch debate? Oberyn argued to have Sandor dead, Cersei argued to have Ser Rodrik dead, and while we could have easily hammered Sandor and gotten away with it, Cersei and I pushed the Ser Rodrik lynch.

Our safest lynch is still Oberyn/Robb, since we can't win this unless we lynch two mafia of the same team back to back (and at least we can be pretty sure of who they are, and we know we're even taking out a cult member this way).

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 04:07 AM
I just can't believe Cersei is the red godfather, if so then the two town leaders to step up in this game were both scum and that's just a poor showing (but props to Cersei). I'll have to look back through the days though to see whether he was consistently anti-red mafia. I do remember one thing though; remember the Sandor vs. Ser Rodrik lynch debate? Oberyn argued to have Sandor dead, Cersei argued to have Ser Rodrik dead, and while we could have easily hammered Sandor and gotten away with it, Cersei and I pushed the Ser Rodrik lynch.

I'm highlighting this bit just in case someone skims past it.

So, Joffrey, did you find anything out from last night? A list of Serf results would be awesome. I also find it very interesting that the Armoursmith and Graverobber are in the same category. If you have two different people coming up with those results then we're good, it can be left in the last will tonight, but last wills may not be secure in future days because the graverobber may take the janitor's powers. Since we'd still have to find the red godfather though I think the Graverobber/Armoursmith results can remain dormant for today. If we're lucky, Joffrey won't be culted and will discover a Cultist result on someone too.

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 04:43 AM
If Joffery isn't already culted, he's not going to get culted any time soon. Because Dracula is dead.

Sandor's list checks out to me.

Joffrey
May 19th, 2012, 04:49 AM
I have the unluckiest results ever. Both my targets died last night. Daenerys was a Citizen/Orange Godmother/Red Godfather/Cult Leader/Jester

It's why I said that I didn't get the culted vibes from her (him?).

While this last night I checked Mellisandre she was a Mason/Doctor/Cultist/Witch but you already know that.

Also, thank you armorsmith! Last night the armor was put to good use. The armor kept me from being culted!

Robb
May 19th, 2012, 07:18 AM
Sandor, Samwell, I would also like to remind you that if Oberyn is lynched, she also controls the roleblock.

Robb
May 19th, 2012, 07:18 AM
*not lynched

i havent had coffee yet go away world

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 07:28 AM
Sandor, Samwell, I would also like to remind you that if Oberyn is lynched, she also controls the roleblock.

I don't want Oberyn controlling shit. He wants orange mafia to win.

You can still win with cult.

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 07:31 AM
No doubt you'd also like the ability to kill tonight, Robb :)

I always liked you, buddy. You're awesome. I'm no threat to you.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5780749

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 07:33 AM
No doubt you'd also like the ability to kill tonight, Robb :)

I always liked you, buddy. You're awesome. I'm no threat to you.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5780749
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5780751

Forum Mafia GM
May 19th, 2012, 07:45 AM
Can I still possess people after I fulfill my win condition?
Do I have to kill culted members of the mafia team that killed me to win?
No
Yes

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 07:53 AM
nooooooooooooooooooo

Oh well I can live with th-oh wait I'm already dead.

Oberyn (3): Petyr, Robb, Samwell
Lord Varys (1): Sandor

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 07:54 AM
I was roleblocked last night. Oberyn must've thought I was the red godfather and wanted to stop my kill or something lol. Or maybe I'm the armorsmith! Dun dun dun...

Joffrey, when did you receive that armor?

As for the cult leader, we know that Janos was never blocked.. There have been 7 nights and culting happens before killing. Lord Varys apparently stopped a culting, and now Joffrey claims the same. If both are telling the truth, we're looking at:
5 successful cultings, so a total of 6 cultists including Janos himself. 3 are now dead, so 3 players among us are culted and Robb is one of them.

I assume that the cult suicides still have to happen, because there were 5 cultists yesterday and that should have led to at least 2 suicides. I'm pretty sure that the cult suicides still have to happen tonight, so we'll lose one more cultist then and it MIGHT be Robb, so why lynch him? Sure, he can get a kill, but there's a 33% chance we waste a lynch if we lynch him.

I still think Oberyn is the best target, because he's the only one of whom we're sure that he's scum and night immune and that he won't suicide tonight. The only thing we may want to consider is that our friend the Ghost will be done with the game as soon as both orange mafia are dead. We could easily get a sure lynch on Oberyn tomorrow, because Jon can possess Ser Lurkas or some other troublemaker to help us get rid of him.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 07:57 AM
If we lynch Oberyn though, then Robb will kill Joffrey if he's not culted, and an unculted investigator could still be quite helpful (I'm not convinced that he's unculted though)

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 07:58 AM
I was roleblocked last night. Oberyn must've thought I was the red godfather and wanted to stop my kill or something lol. Or maybe I'm the armorsmith! Dun dun dun...

Joffrey, when did you receive that armor?

As for the cult leader, we know that Janos was never blocked.. There have been 7 nights and culting happens before killing. Lord Varys apparently stopped a culting, and now Joffrey claims the same. If both are telling the truth, we're looking at:
5 successful cultings, so a total of 6 cultists including Janos himself. 3 are now dead, so 3 players among us are culted and Robb is one of them.

I assume that the cult suicides still have to happen, because there were 5 cultists yesterday and that should have led to at least 2 suicides. I'm pretty sure that the cult suicides still have to happen tonight, so we'll lose one more cultist then and it MIGHT be Robb, so why lynch him? Sure, he can get a kill, but there's a 33% chance we waste a lynch if we lynch him.

I still think Oberyn is the best target, because he's the only one of whom we're sure that he's scum and night immune and that he won't suicide tonight. The only thing we may want to consider is that our friend the Ghost will be done with the game as soon as both orange mafia are dead. We could easily get a sure lynch on Oberyn tomorrow, because Jon can possess Ser Lurkas or some other troublemaker to help us get rid of him.

If Robb doesn't die tonight (and that's a 3/4 chance if you're correct), then I'm still in the game and we can get a sure lynch on Robb, or someone else if you can convince me to vote them.

I'm glad nobody got modkilled for inactivity, it's given me good possession targets.

Oberyn would be gunning for active town members, one of which is Joffery.

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 08:05 AM
Cersei, you've begun to confuse me. You're trying to draw out more armour evidence (when the armoursmith will need it for the probable upcoming Graverobber vs. Armoursmith hoedown). You're also trying to stop a lynch on an Orange mafia because you think the Cult members will continue suiciding (when I don't believe they do). We need to lynch the Orange mafia because of the numbers game. We need the KPN reduced quickly. While we lynch the Orange mafia, we can hopefully use our investigation results to find the graverobber. It then becomes a sheer shot in the dark when we try to lynch the Godfather, sadly, but we can't begin lynching possible targets yet - we stand a better chance if we lynch the mafia we know and then when people begin dying our list of suspects becomes very small.

As much as I appreciate the efforts of Jon, eventually we will need to secure his victory and cut off that KPN.

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 08:08 AM
The shocking thing is that the best way for red mafia to fuck you is to kill Robb and cut off any hope of getting me to un-afk the AFK.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:10 AM
What do you mean with a 3/4 chance? If there are 3 living cultists and 1 of them suicides, isn't it 33%?

And why do I confuse you? I'm just thinking about WHICH of the 2 orange mafias we should lynch. And what are you talking about with "continue to suicide?" There haven't been any cult suicides yet. There were at least 4 of them and only one follower of dracula died.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:14 AM
Question to the game master for clarity:
We know that the cult suicides happen at night, but do they happen on the first night AFTER dracula pops up in the graveyard, or have the cult suicides already taken place?

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:16 AM
If we lynch Robb now and cult suicides still have to happen, we will have ANOTHER cultist flip dead in the graveyard tomorrow. That's one more "unkown" out of the way.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:22 AM
As for why I asked Joffrey about the armor, it's because I still don't trust him and I'm trying to figure out if he's lying. He said he knew who the armorsmith was, and the armorsmith may have been unfortunate enough to be the last one to get culted. If either of them flips cultist in the graveyard tomorrow because of suicides, it may tell us something about the other.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:23 AM
Wow I'm spamming a lot. TOP POST COUNT YEAH BABY!

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Wait, up until now I didn't even notice that Daenerys was dead lol. Nevermind that question... that means there were only 4 cultists last night then, the cult leader included. So 3 remaining cultists resulted in Melisandre's suicide. Otherwise, there would have seen 2 cult suicides.

That means there's 2 cultists left. I really hope it's not the investigator and the armorsmith.. that'd suck.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:39 AM
I still have a question for the GM, just to be sure (ignore the last one)
If a cult recruitment happened on the same night dracula died, would that recruit be taken into account for the total number of cultists that's used to determine the number of cult suicides? For example, the cult has 1 cult leader and 3 culted players in the night chat and a 4th gets recruited.. would that have resulted in 2 suicides or 1 suicide?

Also..

Does using armor prevent a cult suicide?

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:52 AM
I have to go out. And I'm going to

vote Robb

The red mafia will kill a town player tonight and so will the orange mafia, because we have the upper hand now. I'd rather end up 2v1v1v4 than 2v2v4.

It's better to have two one-man scum factions that can't coordinate anything during the night. We should lynch Oberyn tomorrow. I'm sure we can manage that. If there's one more hidden cultist left alive because armor protected them from suicide or something, having 3 living cultists left alive really bothers me as well.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 08:58 AM
I can't be the graverobber OR the godfather because I was roleblocked, and BOTH of them performed an action last night. Thanks for confirming me as serf, Oberyn.

I should stress that it's in the best interest of the cult and the red mafia to keep Robb alive, because Oberyn can't be killed at night. I suggest the rest of the town sides with me on the Robb lynch. Yesterday it wasn't for the best, but I feel that it is now.

Really gone now.

*poof*

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 08:59 AM
-Vote Robb

We need to eliminate a night kill source. While the red mafia do seem to have the graverobber, we are not sure enough about who the red mafia members are for a quick wipe-out. By destroying the orange mafia, we may have a KPN of 3 tommro, but then there will only be a KPN of 1 for the rest of the game.

As for Robb vs Oberyn, if doesn't realy matter that Oberyn has immunity. However, it does matter that Robb is culted. At the moment, it could be 5 town vs 3 cult vs 2 red mafia vs 1 orange mafia. If only non-cult die during the night, it could end up with 5 non-cult vs 3 cult, with 5 votes to lynch. Ser Lorel has been AFK for around a week. While he could be just a lurking GF, I don't want to bet any money on it, and Rob could ultimately end up clogging future lynches.

In short, while there may be a 4 man-bandwaggon, on that said bandwaggon you have 2 confirmed cultists who want to control a night kill, your ghost who wins when Oberyn dies(and has also altered the vote tally to incite a false hammer) and Sandor, who may not have been cult yesterday, but if the cult leader thought she was getting heat from him, would have wanted him assimilated. However, Robb is a better lynch choice.

Robb
May 19th, 2012, 09:02 AM
Lord Varys.

You ARE the grave robber.

The game is basically already over, we just have to decide the outcome.

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 09:03 AM
Cult leader:

Pertinent Rulings: Should you die, half of your brood shall die as a result of losing their sire, rounded down.

Petyr, Robb? Number 3 where are though?

Richard The Flayer Cersei
Graverobber Lord Mew
Anya Nighthawk Oberyn

[/COLOR]Random Town Investigator Joffrey
Random Town Armorsmith Ser Catface

Serf Sandor
Serf Ser C&C noob
Serf Samwell
Serf Ser Ilias

Le Cult
Serf Petyr
Consort Robb

So you are accusing the 2 serfs who are actualy contributing of being mafia-buddys while uber-lurker, troll and "continualy refuses to vote mafia" are serf?

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 09:07 AM
Lord Varys.

You ARE the grave robber.

The game is basically already over, we just have to decide the outcome.
Sigh.

I AM NOT THE GRAVE ROBBER! IF YOU THOUGHT I WAS REALY THE GRAVEROBBER, YOU WOULD HAVE CULTED ME, AND WE WOULD NOT BE ARGUING!

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 09:17 AM
As long as either Robb or Oberyn dies that's cool with me.

Other than Robb, there may be 1 cult still alive, or 2 if there was a successful conversion is my guess (but I am inclined to believe Joffrey at this time).

We really can't worry too much about the remaining cult. They can't do anything, and they want the mafia dead too.

Remaining steps left in this game (as far as I can predict):

1) We lynch off Oberyn and Robb over the next couple of days. I don't think anyone can argue with this logic.

2) We hope that Joffrey survives to find a second Graverobber/Armoursmith result - it shouldn't be too difficult to distinguish between them.

3) We hope that Joffrey and/or the Armoursmith don't end up in the graveyard, and that the mafia kill any remaining cultists or strike the same target/hit someone with armour.

4) End-game situation: Red godfather, 2-3 town, remaining townspeople need to think VERY carefully about their votes. Whole game boils down to whoever is left, so the mafia are most likely to target the active and smart people left (obviously).

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Oberyn(4): Petyr, Robb, Sandor, Samwell
Robb(2): Cersei, Lord Varys

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 09:29 AM
Petyr, a quick question. Why the stunt yesterday trying to get yourself lynched (or not for WIFOM purposes)?

Right now all I can think of is that you were culted and trying to distract attention from Dracula, or you're a red mafia member who wanted to establish themselves as kinda trolly all of a sudden (and possibly try to use the 'I was possessed by the Ghost' excuse) so you didn't have to try and scumhunt against your own mafia or annoy the Cult into exposing or converting you.

Oberyn
May 19th, 2012, 09:36 AM
-Vote Robb

Who best to control the kill tonight?
Me? I have a chance to shoot culted people.
Robb? He has a 0% chance to kill culted people.

seems like an obvious choice to me.

Forum Mafia GM
May 19th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Cult suicide occurred last night.
Cult suicide is 1/2 the total rounded down, not up. This is different from FMs in the past so take note of it.
Putting a vest on does not prevent you from killing yourself. Since you put the vest on, you know of it's existence and the flaws in it's protection strategy.
Culting occurs before kills, thus it can be assumed that a suicide as a result of a kill probably takes into account the fact that a culting may or may not have occurred.

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the answer.

This does indeed mean that, aside from Robb, there is only a maximum of 1 cultist still alive in this game, if that.

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Hmm, so there is only a maximum of 2 cultists. That doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was. However, I'm still going to stick with my Robb vote for now.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Orange has lost. Oberyn plays now for the secondary objective to let Scum win. There is a chance of 0,0000000000000000000000% That he will not shoot a town role tonight. Also it is funny how hard the red Team tries to simulate to be town aligned at this point.

Question time! for Lord Varys, Cersei and Jorah
who do you suspect to be red mafia? With roles please.


Now wouldnīt it be funny when 3 of 4 red mafia members would have cats in their avatar ;)

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:04 PM
Also i want to hear who received armor the complete list.

I also want to hear from Ilyas today.

and no Adolf had only 2 shots in his revolver and he used 1 to kill the Witch. The grave robber has no bullet left.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:19 PM
So you are accusing the 2 serfs who are actualy contributing of being mafia-buddys while uber-lurker, troll and "continualy refuses to vote mafia" are serf?

Thats funny cant you read? Cersei claimed Armorsmith. So who is the other Serf, which i accuse on that list? ;)

Petyr
May 19th, 2012, 12:38 PM
Petyr, a quick question. Why the stunt yesterday trying to get yourself lynched (or not for WIFOM purposes)?

Right now all I can think of is that you were culted and trying to distract attention from Dracula, or you're a red mafia member who wanted to establish themselves as kinda trolly all of a sudden (and possibly try to use the 'I was possessed by the Ghost' excuse) so you didn't have to try and scumhunt against your own mafia or annoy the Cult into exposing or converting you.

This whole game I've been trying to get shot at night. And I can't even do it when I claim Cult Leader.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:39 PM
So lets discuss the Grave robber for a bit. Seems like i am the only one who wants to find the red mafia team as well ;)

Abilities:
Each night you may -enslave a fallen human and steal their night action for your own personal usage. If you choose to use an ability you have stolen, you will not be able to -enslave another human that night.
You may send a last will to me at any time by typing in the body -write "message"

Pertinent Rulings: N/A

Unavailable abilities: Serf, Count Dracula.Fool, Nemesis, Phantom, Necrophiliac, Pupil, Coward, Illusionist, Bloodmage.



So lets see which skills he got. Starting at Night 3 thats where the first Night action was attainable.


Night 3 - skipped the night action did the kill - We had 2 roleblock claims on the next day and bronn had investigative info. So he did the kill

Night 4 - did the kill again - 2 Roleblocks

Night 5 - Picked the vigilante with the last shot

Night 6 - voted on the jester so they let him random kill that night - I got blocked and melisandre as well. So Rodric did not the kill and their team was still 3 man strong so the gf couldnīt have been sent.
The Grave robber is definetly somebody who voted on the Jester letīs call him Lord Varis for today ;-)

Night 7 - shot Dracula dead.

Night 8 - will enslave ????

Petyr
May 19th, 2012, 12:45 PM
You wanna find the red GF today? Let's vote Lord Varys then.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 12:50 PM
First of all i want to hear from Ser Ilyias today. Then i will decide what to do. I want to have every role claimed for today. Then we will decide which scum we will vote out. Right now i am tending more to lynch Oberyn because he will shoot me tonight :)

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 01:29 PM
Also Lord Varys was never on any lynch train on any red mafia team members and had a lot of scum tells. Definetly a newer player or was never scum before.

Ser Ilyas where are though?

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Also it would be nice to know who you guys tried to cult over the whole game :D

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Right now my two top picks for Red GF are Lord Varys or... Sandor.

I just had the sudden thought that he's been playing the role of the loud-mouthed stubborn citizen all game. He was gunning for Ser Rodrik when he was under fire, but he only began doing so once Ser Rodrik had begun his session of derpiness - remember how people were speculating that the Ser Rodrik lynch was being pushed to divert attention away from Sandor (a Dracula suspect)? Looking back at Ser Rodrik's absolutely AWFUL claim and lack of defense, along with the lynch (which I was a big part of, so remember quite well), I'm suddenly suspicious.

More importantly I'm suspicious that Sandor, at this incredibly late stage of the game, a) wants to know a complete list of armour targets and b) wants all the claims out in the open, as if we didn't already have our next two lynch targets sorted for us. Considering that there is a Graverobber in the game, might Sandor be trying to sort out an alibi for his graverobber/himself?

A lot of people suspected Sandor of being scum, and I didn't, but now I think he may have been quite a clever mafia member... so he has been added to my list of suspicious persons again.

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 01:42 PM
Night 6 - voted on the jester so they let him random kill that night - I got blocked and melisandre as well. So Rodric did not the kill and their team was still 3 man strong so the gf couldnīt have been sent.
The Grave robber is definetly somebody who voted on the Jester letīs call him Lord Varis for today ;-)
Yes, the graverobber probably did do the kill after the jester lynch. Your logic in this statement stops right there. How the hell does graverober doing kill that night = graverober voting guilty on jester?

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Also Lord Varys was never on any lynch train on any red mafia team members and had a lot of scum tells. Definetly a newer player or was never scum before.

Ser Ilyas where are though?The Bronn train seemed stupid to me at the time, so I voted Rodrick instead, who was also a red mafia. I did vote for Rodrick when he was lynched, if you don't remember.

Your accusations are now coming to the point that they are either completely false, or have no logic behind them.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 02:03 PM
Thanks for the answers GM.

I've thought Sandor to be potential godfather for quite some time. It was almost like Oberyn was asking the cultists to lynch Sandor with him, because both of them wanted him out of the way. Just think about it, with the red godfather out of the way the town would rely solely on the orange godfather for night kills against the cult... so we wouldn't be able to lynch him.

I don't really believe that Ser Ilyn is a serf when I look at his voting patterns, he may be red GF or culted serf. Petyr may also be red mafia, because he and Sandor constantly vote together.

Petyr
May 19th, 2012, 02:07 PM
The Bronn train seemed stupid to me at the time, so I voted Rodrick instead, who was also a red mafia. I did vote for Rodrick when he was lynched, if you don't remember.

Your accusations are now coming to the point that they are either completely false, or have no logic behind them.

Those are the best kinds of accusations where I'm from.

-vote Lord Varys

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 02:07 PM
Lol, honestly what the heck are we doing.. the red mafia is asking us who we think they are so they can kill everyone else and we will argue about who to lynch.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 02:11 PM
We shouldn't worry about who the red mafia are until tomorrow. We have lynch targets for the next 2 days and we should start with robb, to split the scum teams up even more. Oberyn is also right in that he MIGHT shoot a cultist (by accident or intentionally doesn't matter), whereas Robb would never do that.

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 02:26 PM
I am willing to bet that both of the red mafia members are within this group of people:

Samwell
Ser Loras
Ser Ilyn
Sandor

Samwell claims citizen right at the beggining of the game when getting masoned to prove it seems like a very unlikely possiblity. This could very possibly be because he wanted to have a sheriff or investigator check, claim that he isn't mafia, then clear him for a while. All throughout the game, he posts very little actualy content and is content to troll.

Ser Loras was active for the first 5 game days, but has now been AFK for the last week. No one knows what happend to him, and something could have happend irl, or he could have lost interest. However, he hasn't been replaced, and he has now been completely forgotten. If he realy is the red GF, then he may win simply because no one can be bothered to find out what's going on with him

Ser Ilyn has been a hugh lurker all game and contributed little. Samwell may be accusing me of being scum because I havn't been doing enough bandwaggoning, but this guy has been going against bandwagons against mafia's all game without even explaining his reasoning the next day. Also, he didn't claim citizen when Pally died, and continued to avoid claiming until after the inquistion was dead, possibly to avoid having his claim tested.

Sandor has been acting scummy most of the game. He has gone from trolling hard as a CITIZEN to trying to act normal after his close call a couple of days ago. He's not doing anything smart now, and just spewing out random things in an attempt to look like he actualy is trying to scumhunt. We are a long way past the WIFOM stage of this stage, yet he is still trying to instill policys that will hurt the town. Playing stupid is not at all the tactic that any citizen should be doing at this point, but that is what he's doing.


Either way, I'm am still certain that taking out Robb(or even Oberyn) today is the right move, as it will reduce the night kill to 1 for the rest of the game after tonight.

@Petyr: Nice move, trying to direct a bandwaggon against someone other then Robb while saying "This is all Sadnor's wagon. He may not be voting for Vary's, but he is still leading the waggon".

Petyr
May 19th, 2012, 02:30 PM
@Petyr: Nice move, trying to direct a bandwaggon against someone other then Robb while saying "This is all Sadnor's wagon. He may not be voting for Vary's, but he is still leading the waggon".

It is still my vote. Call the wagon what you want, but I'd still like to see you lynched.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 02:37 PM
It is still my vote. Call the wagon what you want, but I'd still like to see you lynched.

You are not town if you want to lynch anyone other than the 2 known scum, which need to die to reduce the KPN.

Here's the real tally, our friend Samwell got a little too excited and missed a post from Sandor:

Oberyn(2): Robb, Samwell
Robb(4): Sandor, Cersei, Lord Varys, Oberyn
Lord Varys(1): Petyr

I think everything that needs to be said has been said already (the roleblock, joffrey's investigations from the past 2 days, the ghost's targets (thanks for that info, Jon, it's appreciated) and a few opinions here and there) so let's lynch Robb and move on with the game. Don't give the red mafia any more clues about who best to kill, tyvm.

I'm not the armorsmith by the way, I just lied to cause some confusion.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 02:40 PM
Nope lynch one red out today to clear myself. Best possible scenario. Where is Ser Ilys? True lord mew could be gf as well and cersei the graverobber i donīt care.

You can struggle as hard as you want guys also maybe you should go back some pages and look who found me scummy. Every town member who is still in this game should maybe read up the day where Rodric was lynched. This should clearly give enough evidence that i am not on the red mafia team.

If i am gf who is the other one?

If i would be on the red mafia team i would want to lynch Oberyn today not the possible grave robber / godfather candidate on the red team to geet the Ghost on my side Lulz.

I want to know who received armor because the Armorsmith is the only one who found scum the whole game. (except maybe Joffrey but he is retarded) All your armor pieces went to scum anyway. The cult leader got one. Lord Varys got one.

and i bet your armor piece from yesterday went to cersei who is scum as well.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 02:44 PM
And Again Cersei jumps in to defend his team mate. You derailed the Bronn waggon on Day 2 and you tried it on Day 3 as well. You didnīt vote on Ser Rodric you alienated yourself from that lynchtrain as well, also now you jump in for your Ally Lord Varys.

Why am i the only one who can clearly see who you are and what you are?

This is pathethic.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 02:47 PM
Sandor, your last vote was actually against Robb. It is the right person to vote if you're town. You really don't want to do 2 successive gambles to reduce the KPN by 1 if you can get 2 sure lynches to reduce the KPN by 1 instead. Even if going for red first means Jon can help us for longer, it's too risky. Perhaps after tomorrow we can eliminate 1 or 2 more red mafia suspects and joffrey will probably have more information. So we may be able to come to a better judgement.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Why Cersei? You are clearly scum. Or please tell me why you wanted to be recruited as Paladin or Bishop? Is this really the WIFOM you would try if you were an Armorsmith? Please explain your actions through the game. Why did you gave armor to the people you gave in detail. You are scummy as fuck.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 02:53 PM
-lord Varys This will clear me so the last red mafia team member has to decide if he guns for Joffrey or for me same for Oberyn.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 02:54 PM
-vote Lord Varys

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 03:02 PM
I didn't derail the Bronn train by the way. I didn't agree with his lynch at the time because I thought he was acting far too crazy to really be scum and there wasn't really any evidence. And as a possible investigator it was worth keeping him alive (but his info proved to remain useless...)

I tried to get the lynch onto Ser Rodrik on day 3, but Joffrey and Ser Davos decided to waste our day instead.

Day 4 I was not in favor of the Bronn train because I thought Ser Rodrik and Yoren were more likely to be scum than he was. Turns out that they were scum all 3. You should note that the final tally there is wrong and I actually did vote for Bronn a long time before the day ended; someone forgot to erase my vote for Yoren.

Also don't forget I took the initiative in leading a lynch AWAY from you to get Ser Rodrik instead on day 6.

If you are not scum, your meta knowledge is actually clouding your vision right now.

I don't know for sure if Lord Varys can be excluded from the possible red mafia suspects list, but I am quite sure that his armor use+cult prevention claim is the truth. And because he's been a lot more helpful than some others, I'm less inclined to suspect him.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 03:07 PM
Lesigh. The only reason I can think of that you want to vote Lord Varys right now (other than paranoid stupidity) is so that you can get a NO-LYNCH day.

We took risks the past few days and they paid off. Now let's not throw that away and play it safe for a bit. We'll see what happens. And I already told you I'm not the armorsmith, it was just a lie to confuse the mafia so they don't kill the real armorsmith. Isn't that obvious? Derp.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Just look at Lord Varys posts over the whole game. Bitch please. Whatever, do as you must. I am back at diablo3 its more fun than argumenting with you guys.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 03:09 PM
Cersei if you are really the Armorsmith you are my personal LVP the worst of everybody of our town roles no shit. Even Joffrey did a better job as you.

Ser Jorah
May 19th, 2012, 03:19 PM
I'm getting a feeling of deja vu here.

Sandor acts hugely scummy, begins insulting everyone, comes up with the most weird and warped logic and tells everyone he's bored.

The readings on my scumdar are strong, with this one.

I was holding off on my vote because I thought we might get more out of this day but I changed my mind. No possibility of a Janitor clean tonight, no doubt about who we should lynch, might as well post my vote before I go to bed and help the day end just a little bit faster.

-vote Robb

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Who do i insult? Only Cersei and Lord Varys. Donīt twist my words again please like you did the whole game as well.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Aww what the hell. -suicide

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 03:24 PM
I think you, Petyr and Ser Ilyn are being scummier than Lord Varys.

The main reason I had to doubt that you're red godfather was the night 6 roleblock on you (which was never fully confirmed, but nobody counter claimed it either). It would mean that the godfather did not perform the kill, which is strange because there were only 2 red mafia left. However, you did get blocked the night before already so it's possible that you foresaw that and sent the graverobber to kill instead. Especially if the graverobber did NOT vote for the jester (hello Ser Ilyn). You, Ser Rodrik and Petyr did. That Ser Davos kill seems like a directed kill to me, not a random one.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Sandor if you're a serf and that suicide was real, you're the most gigantic idiot of the entire game.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Unless you're the missing culted serf, then I can understand it.

Ser Ilyn
May 19th, 2012, 03:42 PM
Ser Ilyas is nowhere to be found but I Ser ILYN am here.

Robb is certainly the best lynch because were reducing 2 scum factions at once and (as mentioned before) making it a 6v2v1v1 where the 2 1 and 1 cant coordinate actions. End of that discussion. I look forward to FINALLY lynching Oberyn tomorrow.

Vote Robb

As for other things I am confident that Varys is mafia and I am confident that (if he is in fact mafia) he is the godfather. His story about the vest is FoS I think and the best explanation for that is being the godfather. When he voted for Rodrik it was very late and pretty obvious that Rodrik was gonna go down one way or another so that is meaningless.

Cersei claims that he was roleblocked and therefore he cant be scum but the question I have for you is this. How do we know he was roleblocked? There are 0 reasons for Robb or Oberyn to tell the truth at this point so we cant have any idea what their night actions are (or if they even took a night action) so Cerseis supposed proof that hes not scum means nothing. Here I see Varys buddying up with him and Im thinking Cersei is the probable graverobber. I thought Sandor was scum, but I thought he was cult more specifically and since he really cant be that anymore I trust him.

Ser Ilyn
May 19th, 2012, 03:43 PM
I think you, Petyr and Ser Ilyn are being scummier than Lord Varys.

lol still waiting for a reason.

You: "OH BUT ILYN IS LURKING HE MUST BE SCUM!"
Seems legit.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 03:51 PM
I thought Sandor was scum, but I thought he was cult more specifically and since he really cant be that anymore I trust him.
Why not? There is still 1 cultist left alive. Who do you think it is?

You're right, I can't 100% prove that I did get roleblocked, but it's a risky claim to make. If someone else who is still alive got roleblocked, they could counterclaim me. However, if scum tries to counter claim me I will immediately know they are lying, so they won't risk it. The only somewhat probable scenario would be that one of the dead players got roleblocked, but they didn't. My guess is that Janos must've tried to recruit one more immune target somewhere or that he got jailed or witch controlled onto an invalid target.

Forum Mafia GM
May 19th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Aww what the hell. -suicide

Please enter the Suicide Activation code at the tone.

Beep.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 04:07 PM
Sandor, if you're a town serf and suicide for real while we have the lead, I'll hate you forever you nazi smurf.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Give me just one good argument why town should win this. ONLY ONE! Not a single Town player this game deserves to win. Go lose with dignity since you also donīt deserve to win this game.

Bye bye :)

Oberyn
May 19th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Oberyn: Suicide hotline, how may we assist you?
Sandor: Hi, I got cit in FM12.
Oberyn: Oh, thats too bad. You should protest by acting like scum all game.
Sandor: What if town starts to win?
Oberyn: You can always help scum by suiciding if town gets the upper hand.
Sandor: Oh, ok. -suicide

Forum Mafia GM
May 19th, 2012, 04:28 PM
Give me just one good argument why town should win this. ONLY ONE! Not a single Town player this game deserves to win. Go lose with dignity since you also donīt deserve to win this game.

Bye bye :)

Gonna need for you to confirm it for me. I don't want to be blamed for it.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Give me just one good argument why town should win this. ONLY ONE! Not a single Town player this game deserves to win. Go lose with dignity since you also donīt deserve to win this game.

Bye bye :)

Why shouldn't we (the town) win? We're really on the right track. Even if you think we're not, just sit it out and wait until tomorrow. Can't do any harm right?

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 04:39 PM
I think with the huge mess that was left behind by many of the town power roles, we did a pretty good job of cleaning it up, all things considered...

Petyr
May 19th, 2012, 04:44 PM
Oberyn: Suicide hotline, how may we assist you?
Sandor: Hi, I got cit in FM12.
Oberyn: Oh, thats too bad. You should protest by acting like scum all game.
Sandor: What if town starts to win?
Oberyn: You can always help scum by suiciding if town gets the upper hand.
Sandor: Oh, ok. -suicide

Weren't you supposed to not bother talking today? I miss that promise.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 04:56 PM
That post was kind of amusing though. And it's not like he's discussing much.

Samwell
May 19th, 2012, 05:23 PM
Give me just one good argument why town should win this. ONLY ONE! Not a single Town player this game deserves to win. Go lose with dignity since you also donīt deserve to win this game.

Bye bye :)
Do I (Jon, not Samwell, obviously) deserve to win? I put all that effort into being an asshat when I was alive, and you suiciding is going to fuck up my last 2 kills.

By the way, is that five votes on Robb? I don't want to hammer unless everyone else is okay with it.

Lord Varys
May 19th, 2012, 05:54 PM
As for other things I am confident that Varys is mafia and I am confident that (if he is in fact mafia) he is the godfather. His story about the vest is FoS I think and the best explanation for that is being the godfather. When he voted for Rodrik it was very late and pretty obvious that Rodrik was gonna go down one way or another so that is meaningless.
So basicaly, I claim being vested day 5. Suspicion is passed over the whole thing, in which time, you say nothing. Time contiunes, and people decide that I realy am telling the truth. You still say nothing. Then after 3 days of saying nothing on the subject, you decide that suspicion is getting placed onto you and your scummyness, at which time you decide to try and look as if your contributeing something. Now your finaly saying after no comment that you think I'm lying about vesting up? Bitch, please.

On D6, Sandor looked like a highly probable cult leader target. While Rodrick was acting like super-scum, his cult leader chances were around zero. Therefore, I stayed on the Sandor wagon for most of the day. However, when it became clear that the Sandor waggon was loosing momentum fast, I switched waggon to make sure scum was lynched, which is more then I can say for you.

Ser Ilyn
May 19th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Sandor heres your reason to stay alive: every execution has been on a non town target and the only "bad" execution was on a person that was deliberately trying to be executed. We still shouldve lynched on those first 2 days but at least there were no pure mislynches.


Why not? There is still 1 cultist left alive. Who do you think it is?

Petyr the dude who pretty much claimed cultist (and it wasnt the ghost that made it so as I recall).


On D6, Sandor looked like a highly probable cult leader target. While Rodrick was acting like super-scum, his cult leader chances were around zero. Therefore, I stayed on the Sandor wagon for most of the day. However, when it became clear that the Sandor waggon was loosing momentum fast, I switched waggon to make sure scum was lynched, which is more then I can say for you.

I still stand by that decision. We shouldve lynched a cultist that day not some mafia whose death accomplished nothing (since it just turned the KPN over to the godfather). Were just lucky the cult didnt dominate the game from that point on. Also I didnt question it then because that wasnt important then: now that the cult is gone things like that need to be reevaluated.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Alright works for me.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]-vote Robb[/COLOR

Guess who lives another night. Thanks for the bonus information.


Mr Ghost please possess Lord Varys tonight and tell us his role tomorrow. He is either Godfather or Graverobber anyway i want to know which one he is.

Sandor
May 19th, 2012, 06:19 PM
-vote Robb Joffrey go check somebody you did not check and write a proper Last will with all your night actions.

Cersei
May 19th, 2012, 06:23 PM
Can the ghost see his possessed target's role? It doesn't say that anywhere on the rolecard.

Forum Mafia GM
May 19th, 2012, 06:42 PM
The time had come.
His little game had come to an end, and Adelaide would decide for itself.

The citizens of Adelaide had gained too much knowledge.
He had let his game go too far.

By the time he had realized this, it was too late.
Robb went to the abandoned bunker, a spot he had found, dating back to the First Adelaide, built by a "Rihfok". What a silly name.

The Jack Of Spades arrived, a little bit before dusk.
It was the end for Robb, decreed the citizens.
Robb did the only thing he knew.

We will leave that part out, for Jack's sake.

When Jack brought Robb, mostly dead, into the town square, it was already clear of his intentions, according to Jack's account.

Robb was a Playboy, and Jack was having none of it.

The gallows were brought out, and looked familiar;Cosenza was engraved on the leg.

On the gallows, Robb stood, silent, ready for death, as all had abandoned him, Christ, even.

The Cosenza Town Gallows then exploded. And then...and then they exploded again.

Robb's house was searched, and this will was found:

Do what you must do, Adelaideans.

Oh God, I'm bleeding
Oh God, I'm bleeding
Oh God, you're bleeding

Oh God, I'm dying
Oh God, you're dying
Oh God, I'm dying

Oh God, I'm dead
Oh God, you're dead
Oh God, you're dead


This game is over, we must decide the outcome.
My brother, stay strong. Play well. Godspeed.

The Silver Watch was entirely bedazzled by Robb's execution by undead sodomy.

Vote Tally
Oberyn(2): Robb, Samwell
Robb(6): Cersei, Lord Varys, Oberyn, Ser Jorah, Ser Illyn, Sandor
Lord Varys(1): Petyr

Night 9 will end at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=St+Louis+Missouri+9%3A30+PM.+Sunday+May+20+2012