Day 6 - A Costly Mistake

[Forum Mafia GM]

The night previous, many spoke of having horrible dreams, filled with ghastly visions of evil. It wasn't long before they would find out why.

Not far from the city's dungeon, Viserys and Ser Davos were both found dead. However, upon close inspection, it was determined that their deaths were from different means. Viserys did not seem to have any visible injuries at all, though those present remarked that he absolutely reeked of garlic. Ser Davos, on the other hand, was a completely different matter. Ser Davos' cheeks were cut with expert precision, in shapes resembling teardrops. A clove of garlic was lodged between his splintered teeth, most of which had been caved in by a sickeningly powerful blow. Blood soaked most of his ruined face, though he was still recognizable enough to identify him. His body was covered with the standard fanfare of stab wounds, though it seems his recent work with garlic dissuaded any feasting this time. His throat, however, was still torn open, and fresh blood caked the wound where it was likely an overzealous vampire was repulsed by the taste.

Upon searching Viserys' dwelling, the guards found a makeshift altar, along with eucharist and various holy scriptures. While nothing was for certain, it was likely that this man was the last Bishop sent to protect them from the evils of the night. And with that terrible news in mind, it seemed that the Inquisition had finally be snuffed out. What evils Count Dracula would commit on the ever-dwindling populace of Adelaide could only be imagined... evil now had free reign over the city.

Viserys left an especially whiny last will:

lol I was bishop, I gave so many hints at it the fact people didn't pick up is astounding. Honestly though this game tires me so w/e gg cult nothing can stop you now

When they checked Ser Davos' home, however, they discovered that he seemed to have not spent a night there in many days, most of the furniture being covered in a significant layer of dust. After careful search of his personal chambers, they found a spare keyring hidden in a drawer of his dresser, and the numerous similiar brass keys lead them to believe that this man was a Gaelor of the city's dungeon.
While some mourned his loss, others murmured curses under their breath, blaming him for their damnation as the cause of Viserys' demise.

Another day had begun, but few could even hope to guess what fate had in store for them now.

Role List:


Richard The Flayer
Nosferatu Devout
Nosferatu Devout
Anya Nighthawk
Child of the Stars
Child of the Stars
Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf


Possible Random Roles:
Vampires(Nosferatu Devout/Child of the Stars): Trapper(Inteceptor), Illusionist(Disguiser), Bloodmage(Grave Robber), Seductress/Playboy(Consort), Butcher(Janitor), Diabolist(Framer), Larcenist(Consigliere)
Town: Sergeant (Sheriff), Spy (Investigator), Snoop (Detective), Carriage Driver (Bus Driver), Sentinel (Lookout), Apothecary (Doctor), Mortician (Coroner), Gaelor (Jailor), Schizophreniac (Veteran), Fiddler (Escort), Tinkerer (Gunsmith), Blacksmith (Armorsmith)
Cursed: Pupil (Student), Fool (Jester), Nemesis (Executioner), Necrophiliac (Amnesiac), Phantom (Ghost), Coward (Survivor)
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Graveyard:
Arya (Serf) - Found brutalized in her home, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Syrio (Nemesis) - Found slumped over the body of his deceased children, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Eddard (Butcher) - Found eviscerated and tortured in the Cathedral Square, tied to a table. (Night 2)
Ser Berristan (Sergeant) - Found dead in Cathedral Square, drained of blood. (Night 2)
Renly (Carriage Driver) - His head was found within his blood stained carriage, a bear trap chained to it's rear axle. (Night 3)
Theon (Serf) - Found dead outside his home, impaled with a multitude of sharpened stakes, his throat torn. (Night 3)
Jaime (Serf) - Found dead in an alley, twisted by black magic and cut to shreds. (Night 3)
Bronn (Larcenist) - Executed in the blessed fountain in front of Adelaide Cathedral. (Day 4)
Catelyn (Paladin) - Found in the street, dismembered by her own blade. (Night 4)
Yoren (Warlock) - Found dead in his home, shot in the back of the head. (Night 4)
Tyrion (Dr. Adolf von Helsing) - Found in the cellar of Yoren's home, his eyes removed, with a bear trap clasped around his ankle. (Night 4)
Jon (Phantom) - Presumed dead, his house inflicted by a terrible curse that will likely never lift. (Night 4)
Ser Gregor (Fool) - Sentenced to death, his final performance claiming his own life and that of the nearest guardsman. (Day 5)
Viserys (Bishop) - Cause of death unknown, though those present remarked he smelled strongly of garlic. (Night 5)
Ser Davos (Gaelor) - Found dead near Viserys, stabbed countless times, his face mutilated. (Night 5)
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The day will end at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=St+Louis+Missouri+1%3A00+AM%2C+Tuesday+May+15+2 012.

You require 10 votes to lynch. Once a hammer vote has been cast, it cannot be undone.

[Joffrey]

I found a Citizen/Orange Godmother/Red Godfather/Cult Leader/Jester

Considering I don't know who I investigated this doesn't help at all.

[Khal Drogo]

Aw, so the jailor killed the bishop with garlic.

[Lord Varys]

This is preaty obvious, but if Dracula's death isn't iminent, things will go down hill fast.

Policy lynch time.

-Vote Stannis

Lurks more then 25 posts. Contributes little, and goes with the crowd.

[Daenerys]

Fast lynch seems dangerous right now.

Let's not be hasty, we have discussion time and a desperate need to use it.

Yesterday was way, way too slow. Let's KICK IT UP A NOTCH!

Everyone who didn't talk yesterday is suspicious as all hell right now.

[Lord Varys]

Fast lynch seems dangerous right now.

Let's not be hasty, we have discussion time and a desperate need to use it.

Yesterday was way, way too slow. Let's KICK IT UP A NOTCH!

Everyone who didn't talk yesterday is suspicious as all hell right now.

Fast lynch is dangerous. Fast voting is nessicary.

[Ser Ilyn]

Everyone who didn't talk yesterday is suspicious as all hell right now.

Everyone who lynched the jester early on the word of a mafia member is stupid as hell right now. Now where were we?

Vote Oberyn

I still have a pretty good feeling about this one.

[Lord Varys]

Wait, I just read the RP. Jailor killed the Bishop, and what looks like the Flayer's killed the Jailor. Other mafia kill is missing. Targeting Cult Leader?

[Daenerys]

Might have targeted the Bishop with a mafia kill (Jailor protects), might have been a doctor.

[Daenerys]

Oh, I forgot, could have been targeting a GF too.

[Aemon]

Owned by the fool.

[Joffrey]

Sandor, Petyr, Khal Drogo, Daenerys, Stannis, Lord Varys, Ser Rodrik

You are all very suspicious for voting the fool early. No one, I think, had any idea that there's a jester in the set up. So I'm betting some of these are culted and some of these are mafia, both groups trying for different goals. The cult wants the town to mislynch. The mafia want to kill the cult leader.

On another note, I wish the jailor had a last will with information. I'm weird that way.

[Robb]

Hello everybody, I just thought I'll pop in for now, I have to leave soon, have to take care of mom.
:D

Also, I'm wondering exactly why Ser Davos was hardcore lurking through the past three days after him being outed, it seemed a good bit weird.

[Robb]

Also, why was Viserys acting so scummy?

That was supposed to be in my first post, why wasn't it there?

[Sandor]

He was acting so scummy to get not noght checked from the orange consignieur ofcourse or the culted joffrey or the orange consi Joffrey. Was a legit tactic. Problem is the mafia teams aren´t that stupid like the town power roles it seems. Now with the Bishop gone and therefore no paladin left in the game. We have a tiny problem now...

Problem of Viserys was he gave too many hints out and then he acted suddenly too scummy. Bad move pal.

[Sandor]

Bored of the charade. There is no point in going on with the Masons gone.

[Sandor]

fucken game gg scum u win

[Robb]

Lay on Hands comes before killing in OoO, was anyone recruited?
It was random, but maybe we're lucky.

[Sandor]

Yeah he recruited the Jail bars. Also something happened to me last night if one of the Fool PR misses their night actions. I ve got one

[Cersei]

Almost all of the town PRs were tools this game. It's a sad thing it had to be reset twice. I'm not counting on it that the bishop randomly recruited. If he did, the new paladin would well to recruit me tonight so my destiny as a bishop will come true after all. If he didn't, let's kill some coven leaders and cult everyone else who is deemed worthy. (let the lurkers rot and lose imo)

Vote Ser Rodrik

This guy likes trains so much it's about time he becomes the target of one.

[Sandor]

This is probably the last Day Town has majority. Depends on the cult actions. We need the cult leader today if we want to stay in game. Also the 4 random Town roles are, Investigator, Armorsmith, Doctor, Escort.

The Cult leader is a pussy player. He is prolly a noob. He just recruited lurkers the whole game. If we look at jaime he had like 5 posts at Day 3 or something. I bet all his recruits are lurkers. Like our armor using cat friend.

-vote Daenerys

[Sandor]

Almost all of the town PRs were tools this game. It's a sad thing it had to be reset twice. I'm not counting on it that the bishop randomly recruited. If he did, the new paladin would well to recruit me tonight so my destiny as a bishop will come true after all. If he didn't, let's kill some coven leaders and cult everyone else who is deemed worthy. (let the lurkers rot and lose imo)

Vote Ser Rodrik

This guy likes trains so much it's about time he becomes the target of one.

The Bishop was jail killed.

We have left: Investigator, Armorsmith(?), Escort(?), Escort(?)

0 sign of a doctor so far. people claimed to be blocked though. Same with the Armor

[Tywin]

The Bishop was jail killed.

We have left: Investigator, Armorsmith(?), Escort(?), Escort(?)

0 sign of a doctor so far. people claimed to be blocked though. Same with the Armor

Sorry I couldn't post yesterday, my brother graduated

The jailor failed so hard...

[Sandor]

how about voting daenerys with me isntead of posting useless filler?

[Sandor]

Also the guys with the cat avatars are on one Mafia team if you haven´t noticed already. One is the godfather who got recruited at one night so he had to claim to popp his armor.

You hear other mafia team? You should start to decimate them soon.

[Lord Varys]

This is probably the last Day Town has majority. Depends on the cult actions. We need the cult leader today if we want to stay in game. Also the 4 random Town roles are, Investigator, Armorsmith, Doctor, Escort.

The Cult leader is a pussy player. He is prolly a noob. He just recruited lurkers the whole game. If we look at jaime he had like 5 posts at Day 3 or something. I bet all his recruits are lurkers. Like our armor using cat friend.

-vote Daenerys

He recruited Jamie because he was confirmed town (read executioner last will + executioner role card)

[Lord Varys]

cult everyone else who is deemed worthy. (let the lurkers rot and lose imo)


Is this considered game-throwing?

[Sandor]

He recruited Jamie because he was confirmed town (read executioner last will + executioner role card)

Rofl this is not sc2mafia where cult only can recruit town. Are u kidding me? The Cult wants to recruit the scum in this game because they have the kpn. A culted mafia team where only the Godfather is left is 1 kpn for the Town. Because the Godfather doesnt even know that he is the last mafia left on his team before its too late and cant kill other people.

[Lord Varys]

Rofl this is not sc2mafia where cult only can recruit town. Are u kidding me? The Cult wants to recruit the scum in this game because they have the kpn. A culted mafia team where only the Godfather is left is 1 kpn for the Town. Because the Godfather doesnt even know that he is the last mafia left on his team before its too late and cant kill other people.

Can GF overide the night kill?

[Sandor]

ofc he can otherwise it would be unbalanced.

[Sandor]

Is Lord Varys retarded or the Cultleader?

[Petyr]

The people I'd be willing to vote for today are Rodrick, Stannis, and Daenarys (mostly because I didn't even realize they were still in this game). Why is someone voting Oberyn? He seems pretty legit in my opinion.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Can GF overide the night kill?

The GF overrides every action, period.

[Ser Rodrik]

The people I'd be willing to vote for today are Rodrick, Stannis, and Daenarys (mostly because I didn't even realize they were still in this game). Why is someone voting Oberyn? He seems pretty legit in my opinion.

Of the few posts I've made, they've been constructive. What can you say about yours? Did you even post yesterday? There's been a dip in activity from you. Possibly cult.

[Petyr]

Of the few posts I've made, they've been constructive. What can you say about yours? Did you even post yesterday? There's been a dip in activity from you. Possibly cult.

Clearly, you haven't been reading the thread if you didn't think I posted yesterday.

[Lord Varys]

Atm, Daenarys strikes me as culted, but much less likely as cult leader.

[Oberyn]

Why did the jailor have to drag the Bishop off to the funhouse? Why...

Sucks that Gregor was not the cult leader, but it also clears up some stupidity. I have a new theory. Sandor has been acting like the jester the whole game, now that being jester is impossible, he miraculously drops the jester act. Jester is also in the citizen/Cult Leader/GF(and God Mother) investigation pairing.
He was also the first person to start the vote against Gregor, probably hoping to gather our attention and focus the day on him.
Then he started posting today:



Also something happened to me last night if one of the Fool PR misses their night actions. I ve got one
You are hinting 1 of 2 things. I want you to specify exactly what happened to you so someone can have the chance to counter claim.
I bet you are hinting that you got armor, which seems to convenient for a cover story for later when someone tries to attack you since Cult Leader has 1 auto armor.



This is probably the last Day Town has majority. Depends on the cult actions. We need the cult leader today if we want to stay in game. Also the 4 random Town roles are, Investigator, Armorsmith, Doctor, Escort.

The Cult leader is a pussy player. He is prolly a noob. He just recruited lurkers the whole game. If we look at jaime he had like 5 posts at Day 3 or something. I bet all his recruits are lurkers. Like our armor using cat friend.

-vote Daenerys
1- It really looks like he slips and reveals that the Doctor is culted. There is no information that confirms the presence of a doctor. Yet he seems confident of his existence.
2- He ignored the fact that Jaime was almost a confirmed town. We haven't killed any other cult to suggest that the cult is only recruiting lurkers.
3- Why vote Daenerys?




We have left: Investigator, Armorsmith(?), Escort(?), Escort(?)

0 sign of a doctor so far. people claimed to be blocked though. Same with the Armor
Right after posting, he realizes his slip and tries to cover it up. Did a poor job at it too, I doubt that there are 2 escorts. At least one of the claims should be a consort.



Also the guys with the cat avatars are on one Mafia team if you haven´t noticed already. One is the godfather who got recruited at one night so he had to claim to popp his armor.

You hear other mafia team? You should start to decimate them soon.


Is Lord Varys retarded or the Cultleader?
Lord Varys has a cat avatar... In one post he clearly indicates that Lord Varys is the God Father, then does a full 180 and dismisses his comment and asks if Lord Varys is the Cult Leader.


Another strong factor in my theory is that no one has questioned Sandor for his yellow spam / lurking style. Either the cult are trying to create as many scummy possibilities as possible to dilute Sandors stupidity and make the rest of us forget or they are trying to cause a mislynch. Yesterday, I thought for sure that Sandor was the jester, I have been proven wrong. But lynching the jester left Sandors cover story exposed and I'm not gonna ignore that.

-Vote Sandor

[Joffrey]

Oberyn, that makes more sense. I was trying to put Sandor in my roles list here and cult leader was difficult. Since we should lynch a scum and I don't doubt Sandor's scummyness.

-Vote Sandor

Even if he's not the cult leader he's still scum

[Cersei]

Of the few posts I've made, they've been constructive. What can you say about yours? Did you even post yesterday? There's been a dip in activity from you. Possibly cult.

Truly?

Day 2:

A banana you say? Mm, tasty.


I don't think Jon is scum. That Jarvan guy last FM was a total idiot with tons of scum tells, but in the end he was a cit. So either Jon is jester or trolling and not worth the extra attention.

As for Aemon, I think he's just being a douche and was tired so he read about his guy on wikipedia, lol.
Ok.


-vote Bronn

Haven't read much, but Barristar rises a few good points. Don't hammer him, just pressure him.


Err Barristan. Sorry


-unvote Bronn

Day 3


Me about Rodrik blindly supporting popular opinion and lynch trains without saying anything or questioning anyone
Supported him? I voted Bronn for looking suspicious. Want to know something funny? That guy was sheriff. Now who looks scummy, you idiot?


Bronn looked extremely scummy. I voted for my own reasons. Cersei is just a retard. I'm not dumb enough to go on bandwagon votes. Berristan was sheriff, so how am I scummy for voting with him? Good thinking, dipshit.
He had no idea of Barristan being sheriff when he blindly followed him, so it can't be used to support his argument. Also insults.



to a trolling ViserysOh my god. Does this look like Twitter? Assuming you typed that, you must also think Facebook is Twitter as well. I just want to say I fucking hate you and I hope both covens target you tonight. You're a fucking idiot. If I had killing abilities, or dayshoot or ANYTHING I would kill you right now out of priniciple.

You are really fucking annoying.

Please, vampires, kill this fucking moron. Give him a crown of gold, I don't care. Just kill him.
Directing vampire night kill lol coven leader.


Also, Bronn, I unvoted after you roleclaimed. Just because I unvoted after Berristan has nothing to do with shit. Also, he is sheriff, so your only key part as to how I'm "scum" is because I unvoted and Eddard did afterwards.

Berristan is confirmed town.

You're not.
Keeps misspelling Barristan. Of course, Barristan's name really wasn't on Ser Rodrik's mind on day 3 so he kept misspelling it so he couldn't have given the kill order. Refers to him being sheriff again... which Rodrik could not know.


-vote Ser Davos
Great arguments there.



me pointing out Rodrik's scumminess againI don't need to explain shit to you or anyone else. I vote the way I want. Read the posts pertaining to Ser Davos, maybe you can pick up on a few CONTEXT CLUES.
"I don't need to contribute I just need to follow ppl and I will win"


-unvote Ser Davos

Sorry. Joffrey, you're a dumb ass. Why did a moron get a role like Investigator?
After Davos is proven jailer. More insults.


-unvote Ser Davos Oops.
It wasn't in red. Also, INCREASE POST COUNT!


By the way, I think Cersei is executioner. That's why he's all over my balls. Even back when Davos was scummy, he was still riding my dick. Also, he admitted to not being bishop..

Anything he says.. to me at least, is invalid.
Random accusation with no basis because I was on his tail and he didn't know what to say.


If Davos dies tonight, you do realize it is 100% your fault, right? I wish we had a vigilante who could dayshoot.
(to Joffrey) just placing blame.


How am I scummy? Because you're backed into a corner?
(to Joffrey) uh.. what does Joffrey being "backed into a corner" have to do with Rodrik's scumminess?

Day 4

I was witched night one.
WTF?


If Bronn can confirm visiting me or deny it, then that means Yoren must be a witch.

Bronn, what were your findings on night one?
Yes, Yoren was witch. I bet Yoren believed you were in the same mafia as Bronn. And I wouldn't be surprised. Also, Bronn already gave the result. Did it really have to be emphasized that you were in the serf pairing so people got off your back?



melisandre RPing and wifoming investigative role/cult leaderForgive me, but I do not quite follow.

All the years in Wintefell have numbed my brain.

Is this a third investigator claim?

Day 5:

-vote Ser Gregor


This, people, is all that Ser Rodrik has "contributed" this entire game. Lurking, jumping on every single popular bandwagon, shrugging off suspicion with insults and reasoning his scummy behavior by using the graveyard of the NEXT DAY as "proof" of his pro-town attitude.

No scum hunting. No seeking explanations for any events. No questions, no answers. And he dares to claim now that the few posts he made were CONSTRUCTIVE?

Let's kill him already.

[Oberyn]

(good argument about Ser Rodrik)

I totally agree that Ser Rodrik is scum, but after Bronn flipped Red Mafia, I expect Ser Rodrik to be red mafia or culted mafia. Either way, I want the Cult Leader today and not one of his minions.

[Sandor]

I love your Logic Oberyn. you applied the same thing yesterday on Ser Catface but you didnt vote for him. Also the whole game you try to be sooo damn town pro that i have to puke. Either you are the most obvious citizen ever or you are just scum.

lol Joffrey you never thought the whole game why are you starting now? Please go back into your hole. I haven´t forgot how you outed the jailor and other roles. If somebody is scummy here its you. Why are you still alive if you are an investigator?


Seems like i hit the spot with the Daenerys lynch train.

[Oberyn]

I love your Logic Oberyn. you applied the same thing yesterday on Ser Catface but you didnt vote for him. Also the whole game you try to be sooo damn town pro that i have to puke. Either you are the most obvious citizen ever or you are just scum.


Jailor exposed my role, what do you want me to do? Lurk like the rest of the idiots?
As for Ser Catface, yesterday was too focused on Gregor to get anything else done. And I think that Ser Catface is a GF and not the cult leader.

[Cersei]

Is this considered game-throwing?

Hi scum. You looking to use the age-old "GM not answering but Cersei would be modkilled if he was not scum" argument?

It doesn't work that way. I've been taking an active anti cult stance the entire game and tried much harder than any of the lurky bastards, who are likely to be scum and laughing at all the failing townsmembers from the sidelines. I want to see the lurkers lynched and you are a candidate, but not number one on my list. At least you posted a little bit in the last few days.

[Sandor]

You know the guys who can afford to be anti cult are the Godfathers and the Cult leader.

Also how does a cult leader with a vest plays any diffrent to a godfather with a vest? This should be interesting

[Cersei]

I wanted to be masoned so I could actually have some influence over this failtown. I think I actually got on Catelyn's good side and had a pretty decent chance to get recruited if they needed a replacement. If I had been godfather or cult leader, I wouldn't want that.

On that note, Robb is probably a consort. He mentioned a number of people to be "tested" by the inquisitors. Oberyn and myself were not on that list even though we had both claimed serf. I'm not sure why, but that can't be good. Aemon had also stealth claimed serf, but I didn't want to out him explicitly. Now it doesn't matter because none of us can sneak into the inquisitors anymore anyway.

Godfathers are permanently nightkill immune and the cult leader has a one-time vest. Unless he recruits the armorsmith.

[Sandor]

makes no huge difference. In playstyle i guess. We have one guy who claimed to have received armor over 6 nights. And it prevented that he got culted. Where are all those other armors?

[Cersei]

Janos also claimed to have received armor. It's somewhat doubtful that they both lied.

[Oberyn]

makes no huge difference. In playstyle i guess. We have one guy who claimed to have received armor over 6 nights. And it prevented that he got culted. Where are all those other armors?

Are you or are you not claiming to have gotten armor last night?

[Sandor]

No i don´t claim to recieve any armor. Now decide yourself if i lie or not cuz of STUPFOM

[Sandor]

Go fetch your tail! Little kitty!

[Petyr]

Well, I'm going to

-vote Daenerys

At least until they speak up. So far I'm 0 for 2 with my voting record. So maybe third time's a charm.

[Cersei]

By the way I think one of last night's missing kills can be explained as follows:
One mafia went full on the bandwagon on Ser Gregor. They submitted non-kill actions only so they wouldn't murder each other by accident.

Question to the GM:
If a Godfather was affected by a jester lynch, would he be directed to kill a random target or would his visitation have no effect?

[Forum Mafia GM]

By the way I think one of last night's missing kills can be explained as follows:
One mafia went full on the bandwagon on Ser Gregor. They submitted non-kill actions only so they wouldn't murder each other by accident.

Question to the GM:
If a Godfather was affected by a jester lynch, would he be directed to kill a random target or would his visitation have no effect?

Latter.

[Melisandre]

When the night is dark and full of horrors...hell hath no fury like a scorned red witch. Our days have been muddled with deaths of our brethren. Evil forsakens our lands and must be destroyed.


Sandor, Petyr, Khal Drogo, Daenerys, Stannis, Lord Varys, Ser Rodrik

You are all very suspicious for voting the fool early. No one, I think, had any idea that there's a jester in the set up. So I'm betting some of these are culted and some of these are mafia, both groups trying for different goals. The cult wants the town to mislynch. The mafia want to kill the cult leader.

On another note, I wish the jailor had a last will with information. I'm weird that way.

Take note, loyal subjects. It has become quite apparent through voting patterns that the mafia are attempting to both lay low and take over the continent of Westeros. Lord Varys, subtle Godfather, Ser Rodrik, his loyal hand, and Daenerys, wielder of dragons, are at his disposal. Similarly, my dear Stannis, Godfather and rightful heir to the throne, Tywin Lannister, his loyal hand, and Ser Ilyn, destroyer of souls. Along with Sandor, the Cult Leader, and Petyr, his loyal cultist.

How do we best address this scenario?

[Cersei]

Alright, then the godfather of the coven that didn't kill can be on the Ser Gregor pile too. And even if they weren't, it wouldn't be possible to send them to kill someone.

Oh, and for the record.. yes we did have a hint that there was a jester in the setup. Janos has claimed to have been visited by one. Does nobody read his posts?

[Petyr]

When the night is dark and full of horrors...hell hath no fury like a scorned red witch. Our days have been muddled with deaths of our brethren. Evil forsakens our lands and must be destroyed.



Take note, loyal subjects. It has become quite apparent through voting patterns that the mafia are attempting to both lay low and take over the continent of Westeros. Lord Varys, subtle Godfather, Ser Rodrik, his loyal hand, and Daenerys, wielder of dragons, are at his disposal. Similarly, my dear Stannis, Godfather and rightful heir to the throne, Tywin Lannister, his loyal hand, and Ser Ilyn, destroyer of souls. Along with Sandor, the Cult Leader, and Petyr, his loyal cultist.

How do we best address this scenario?

I didn't realize following Dracula in broad daylight would get me caught. Very astute of you.

[Melisandre]

Oh, and for the record.. yes we did have a hint that there was a jester in the setup. Janos has claimed to have been visited by one. Does nobody read his posts?

I believe I said as much before being asked to hammer the Fool.

[Cersei]

It'd be funny if Melisandre of the fire cult was actually the cult leader, hiding in plain sight all along with suitable roleplay :D

[Melisandre]

It'd be funny if Melisandre of the fire cult was actually the cult leader, hiding in plain sight all along with suitable roleplay :D

If I was actually part of the heretics--and especially if I was their leader--I would not have bothered posting at all. Your attentions were all diverted elsewhere, and rightfully so.

[Cersei]

If I was actually part of the heretics--and especially if I was their leader--I would not have bothered posting at all. Your attentions were all diverted elsewhere, and rightfully so.

Yeah you would also have tried to convert Ser Davos, and that's already ruled out, so...

[Ser Rodrik]

-vote Sandor

I'm going to roleclaim as Escort.

Oberyn n1

Tyrion n2

Daenerys n3

Catelyn n4

N/A n5, jester lynch

I ask Oberyn and Daenerys to step up and verify my tale.

[Oberyn]

not sure how you want me to verify your claim, I already claimed roleblocked n1 on d2.

[Ser Rodrik]

I'm just asking for a repost, maybe this will get Cersei off of my penis.

[Cersei]

Oberyn n1

Tyrion n2

Daenerys n3

Catelyn n4

Wait, so you roleblocked the CONFIRMED PALADIN the night she died? I think you're just confirming yourself as scum here. Not sure why.

[Ser Rodrik]

I roleblocked her because she WASN'T confirmed pally. Anybody can lie. For example, like you claiming to be town.

[Oberyn]

I can't help but notice that Tyrion never claimed roleblocked, even in his last will. Yet both Yoren and Aemon claimed roleblocked n2.

[Ser Rodrik]

Wait for Daenerys to confirm. If I remember correctly, he didn't call roleblocked.

[Oberyn]

yes he did... I'll go find it.

[Oberyn]

Day 4 reply #75

[Ser Rodrik]

Ah. Excellent. Now enough pestering me, Cersei. If you will excuse me I have to go on a 4 hour drive. Goodbye.

[Cersei]

She was as good as confirmed.


Smited Ser Loras, also was taken for a midnight joy ride


Oh, well that seems obvious now.
Not much to say about the night, the masons chose a wrong smite target.
Game Master insulted me in the PM Q_Q

Her smite got confirmed, and nobody counter claimed to have been targeted by a smite.

Yoren also claimed to have used someone to target Daenerys night 3 on day 4. And you claimed to have been witched "night one". Even though Bronn already claimed that.

[Cersei]

Ser Rodrik is mafia and was sent to kill Catelyn, and claims to have blocked her to cover the lack of roleblocked claims that day.

[Sandor]

Now after the culted Escort is out. I was blocked last night.

[Cersei]

Now after the culted Escort is out. I was blocked last night.

How do you know it's a culted escort and not a coven member who is on the same team as the consort?

[Sandor]

I assume, why would the mafia be interested in blocking the paladin? Thats fucking retarded.

[Joffrey]

But you only consider the possibility of a culted escort. Could he not be a consort?

[Cersei]

I assume, why would the mafia be interested in blocking the paladin? Thats fucking retarded.

Indeed, why would they block her? Except she didn't get blocked. She got killed. That same night.


But you only consider the possibility of a culted escort. Could he not be a consort?
This is much more likely.

[Janos]

Hello all. Before I say anything about how my night went, I want to hear all your opinions on the following questions:

1. What chances, do you think, does town have of winning this FM by killing BOTH cult and Mafia?
2. Which side do you think poses more threat to Winning this FM? The Mafia? Or the Cult?

[Joffrey]

But the fact that Sandor jumps to the conclusion that it's a culted escort really stands out to me. It's like he's trying to get the image out that he's not in the cult.

It just gives me more confidence that I placed my vote well.

[Joffrey]

Hello all. Before I say anything about how my night went, I want to hear all your opinions on the following questions:

1. What chances, do you think, does town have of winning this FM by killing BOTH cult and Mafia?
2. Which side do you think poses more threat to Winning this FM? The Mafia? Or the Cult?

It'll have to be something like the prisoner's dilemma for the town to win.
The cult at the moment.

But really, this is scummy because what logically follows is that you argue that we need to kill the mafia which only would make sense if you were culted.

[Khal Drogo]

Hello all. Before I say anything about how my night went, I want to hear all your opinions on the following questions:

1. What chances, do you think, does town have of winning this FM by killing BOTH cult and Mafia?
2. Which side do you think poses more threat to Winning this FM? The Mafia? Or the Cult?


Well town has a boatload of serfs on their side.
But I think Cult will overtake the mafia very soon unless the leader is lynched within the next 2 days or killed at night.

[Oberyn]

Hello all. Before I say anything about how my night went, I want to hear all your opinions on the following questions:

1. What chances, do you think, does town have of winning this FM by killing BOTH cult and Mafia?
2. Which side do you think poses more threat to Winning this FM? The Mafia? Or the Cult?

1- Depends how many mafia are also culted and how many die when the Cult Leader dies.
2- Cult, hands down, at this point I'd guess that cult has at least 1 of each mafia culted so they know what they are up to / can influence the mafia to do their bidding. I think the chances of the cult leader dying at night are next to none now. And cult have a strong voice during the day to protect their leader.

[Cersei]

1. What chances, do you think, does town have of winning this FM by killing BOTH cult and Mafia?
2. Which side do you think poses more threat to Winning this FM? The Mafia? Or the Cult?

1. It's out of our hands now, we can only lynch confirmed scum and hope they kill each other or join the cult and win with them, if the cult leader doesn't snuff it.
2. The cult obviously. The covens are weak.


But the fact that Sandor jumps to the conclusion that it's a culted escort really stands out to me. It's like he's trying to get the image out that he's not in the cult.

It just gives me more confidence that I placed my vote well.
What irks me about it is that Ser Rodrik makes an EXTREMELY suspicious claim (blocked 2 who already confirmed their blocks and 2 dead people, one of which was an almost confirmed paladin and one a vigilante who never stated to be blocked that night while 2 other people did)

It's like he wants to get lynched so someone else survives. And Sandor seems to try and make use of the situation to encourage a lynch on Rodrik. Strange coincidence or strategy?

[Cersei]

Oh Joffrey... Now seems a good time to reveal that investigation target from before. Who was the cultist/doctor you investigated night 4?

The inquisitors are off the list, and it's worth knowing who that possible cultist is because it's a lot more likely than a doctor at this point.

[Joffrey]

Oh Joffrey... Now seems a good time to reveal that investigation target from before. Who was the cultist/doctor you investigated night 4?

The inquisitors are off the list, and it's worth knowing who that possible cultist is because it's a lot more likely than a doctor at this point.

Well, it was Viserys....

[Cersei]

Alright, I expected that answer but it's good to have it out in the open.

[Sandor]

It'll have to be something like the prisoner's dilemma for the town to win.
The cult at the moment.

But really, this is scummy because what logically follows is that you argue that we need to kill the mafia which only would make sense if you were culted.

Then Joffrey tell us where the other Town power roles are? Armorsmith?, Investigator? what are the other 2? Did you even realize that the cult could have like the rest of the TPR culted and now simulate that there are Town roles around which arent in game?

You can lynch me i dont care. After the 3. Reroll as a serif and a game who takes ages to end. I am fine with this. Diablo 3 is out in 2 Days and then the game will be even more dead than it already is.

Feel free and do it. Even if you think i am cult its high likely tha ti am not the cult leader and you should be interested in a better lynch at this time.

Wonder what your COM is Joffrey.

[Forum Mafia GM]

a game who takes ages to end
Been seeing this a lot lately.

It's sad we've forgotten how long FM actually lasts.

[Sandor]

Hello all. Before I say anything about how my night went, I want to hear all your opinions on the following questions:

1. What chances, do you think, does town have of winning this FM by killing BOTH cult and Mafia?
2. Which side do you think poses more threat to Winning this FM? The Mafia? Or the Cult?

Town is gonna lose thats for sure. How high is the probability that everyone who doesnt post regularly is an unculted serif who just quit the game?

[Janos]

Lol you know what's funny? Scum practically makes up half the town now.

So I'm looking at all of you laughing because you're probably all scum, arguing amongst each other, vying for each of your own alignment's win.

[Cersei]

Lol you know what's funny? Scum practically makes up half the town now.

So I'm looking at all of you laughing because you're probably all scum, arguing amongst each other, vying for each of your own alignment's win.

I think it's about half and half. Many of the scum are lurkers, I'm quite sure.

[Janos]

If at any point in the game, a town member determines that it is impossible or highly unlikely to win as town and decide to ally himself with cult in order to win, in hopes that he will be culted in return, is that considered gamethrowing?

Lol because if the answer to this question is no, I have half the mind to just go, "DRACULA PLZ CULT ME. I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHINGZ I KNOW. JUST LET ME WIN WITH YOU CAUSE TOWN SUCKS."

[Daenerys]

I'm back.

People voting for no reason, trains exploding in the station.

Good job.

-vote Sandor

[Cersei]

I'm back.

People voting for no reason, trains exploding in the station.

Good job.

-vote Sandor

If you perceive that people are voting for no reason, why don't you vote for Ser Rodrik? He has given ample reason.

[Cersei]

Lord Varys, subtle Godfather, Ser Rodrik, his loyal hand, and Daenerys, wielder of dragons, are at his disposal.

Is there truth in this?

[Stannis]

Is there truth in this?

Judging by how the role blocker has been playing this game, I'd say that he is not town-aligned. I mean everyone finds me scummy, yet I haven't been roleblocked, neither were any of the lurkers. So I think that Ser Rodrik is probably a Consort. The bigger question remains though, who's a bigger threat? If we take out the mafia I think they will start gunning for the cult, because they will lose otherwise. So I think the mafia members are a better choice.

-vote Ser Rodrik

[Robb]

I'm back.

People voting for no reason, trains exploding in the station.

Good job.

-vote Sandor

Wait wait wait.
You just insulted people for voting for no reason...
And then voted for no reason.

I'm inclined to believe Sandor, as his blocks seem believable.
However, N4 Catelyn... seems like a thing a... culted escort would do.

-vote Sandor

[Daenerys]

I wonder who the ghost possessed today. Does it matter?

[Stannis]

Wait wait wait.
You just insulted people for voting for no reason...
And then voted for no reason.

I'm inclined to believe Sandor, as his blocks seem believable.
However, N4 Catelyn... seems like a thing a... culted escort would do.

-vote Sandor

that's rodrik not sandor

[Forum Mafia GM]

If at any point in the game, a town member determines that it is impossible or highly unlikely to win as town and decide to ally himself with cult in order to win, in hopes that he will be culted in return, is that considered gamethrowing?

Lol because if the answer to this question is no, I have half the mind to just go, "DRACULA PLZ CULT ME. I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHINGZ I KNOW. JUST LET ME WIN WITH YOU CAUSE TOWN SUCKS."
Yeah, that's considered gamethrowing, fucking duh.

[Janos]

Yeah, that's considered gamethrowing, fucking duh.

No need to get nasty. So what are we supposed to do, keep ramming our heads against the wall hoping some miracle will happen that enables town to kill both Mafia and Cult at the same time?

[Daenerys]

Judging by how the role blocker has been playing this game, I'd say that he is not town-aligned. I mean everyone finds me scummy, yet I haven't been roleblocked, neither were any of the lurkers. So I think that Ser Rodrik is probably a Consort. The bigger question remains though, who's a bigger threat? If we take out the mafia I think they will start gunning for the cult, because they will lose otherwise. So I think the mafia members are a better choice.

-vote Ser Rodrik

This logic is absolutely fine with me. As long as it doesn't backfire and end up with the mafia gunning for town to stop us from gunning for them because they're retarded and won't gun for cult leader.

-vote Ser Rodrik

TIME FOR MIRACLE WORK WIN TOWN GAME

[Robb]

that's rodrik not sandor

*facepalm*
We will agree never to speak of this again.

-vote Ser Rodrik

[Forum Mafia GM]

No need to get nasty. So what are we supposed to do, keep ramming our heads against the wall hoping some miracle will happen that enables town to kill both Mafia and Cult at the same time?

I expect the town to play towards their win condition, and that doesn't involve submitting to the cult.

It would not even be an option, as the game would end before the town found themselves in an impossible win scenario.

[Lord Varys]

Role-blocking the confirmed Paladin means that Rodrick is preaty much confirmed scum. However, I believe that Rodrik is a Cultist, and he is intentionaly claiming to have blocked the paladin to act as a scapegoat for the Cult Leader. Judging by what we know and can guess about the Cult Leader, the people who are currently voting for Rodrik are in the high risk zone for being culted.

I like Oberyn's theory, and this time, the man fits the crime. Sandor has been trolling and contributing little, and could very well be the Cult Leader.

-Vote Sandor

[Stannis]

Honestly it's a crapshoot. Go for the cult leader, hope the mafias pick each other off. Go for the mafia, hope the mafia kills the cult so we dont have to worry about them. The only thing that relies on the town is killing the right person. Killing a Godfather or Cult Leader would be best but is the hardest thing to do. Hence why I think going for Rodrik is better. But if he really is acting scapegoat for Sandor or some other person that might be the cult leader then we won't get much from lynching him

[Stannis]

And then there's the very slim chance that he is neither cult or mafia and we end up killing a town member. Then we're super fucked because we only have two unclaimed PRs

[Oberyn]

A question to those who are voting Ser Rodrik:

What do you plan to accomplish by lynching a consort (possibly culted consort)? Until we stop the cult from increasing their numbers, town doesn't stand a chance. If we let the cult grab all our PRs, town doesn't stand a chance. If Cult have a healing role culted, cult leader will be invulnerable at night.

If we find and lynch the Cult leader today, Ser Rodrik might possibly commit suicide tonight if he is culted.

All I see is a bunch of people trying to focus the lynch away from Sandor.

[Lord Varys]

A question to those who are voting Ser Rodrik:

What do you plan to accomplish by lynching a consort (possibly culted consort)? Until we stop the cult from increasing their numbers, town doesn't stand a chance. If we let the cult grab all our PRs, town doesn't stand a chance. If Cult have a healing role culted, cult leader will be invulnerable at night.

If we find and lynch the Cult leader today, Ser Rodrik might possibly commit suicide tonight if he is culted.

All I see is a bunch of people trying to focus the lynch away from Sandor.

I'm thinking along similar lines. The only way for us to win is to take out the Cult Leader. While town will still be quite weak and lose if townies die every night, victory is still a possibility. The 2 mafia's are ENEMY'S, and may destroy each other taking pot shots at each other. Read FMV. Things looked bad for town all the way through, then there was a vicotry steal at the end. However, one thing which I can say for certainty is that if we don't take out the Cult Leader, we lose. While you may think that we can all join the cult, game ends once cult gains majority. That doesn't leave room for many of us, and I doubt that I am high up the cult list after N4.

[Joffrey]

Don't forget that Robb is an escort/consort. If one flips mafia then the other is likely town.

[Daenerys]

A question to those who are voting Ser Rodrik:

What do you plan to accomplish by lynching a consort (possibly culted consort)? Until we stop the cult from increasing their numbers, town doesn't stand a chance. If we let the cult grab all our PRs, town doesn't stand a chance. If Cult have a healing role culted, cult leader will be invulnerable at night.

If we find and lynch the Cult leader today, Ser Rodrik might possibly commit suicide tonight if he is culted.

All I see is a bunch of people trying to focus the lynch away from Sandor.

Cult leader is probably not shoving himself out into the open and trolling like an idiot. I'd say that a Cult Leader would be trying to hide, not shove himself into the open. I have no idea who the cult leader is, but I don't think it's Sandor. Rodrik is a safe lynch.

Again, I ask do we care who ghost possessed?

[Oberyn]

Again, I ask do we care who ghost possessed?

Might explain Cersei's attitude today and his push to attack the mafia. I donno for sure.

[Joffrey]

Cult leader is probably not shoving himself out into the open and trolling like an idiot. I'd say that a Cult Leader would be trying to hide, not shove himself into the open. I have no idea who the cult leader is, but I don't think it's Sandor. Rodrik is a safe lynch.

Again, I ask do we care who ghost possessed?

But you should agree that circumstances would make a lot more sense if Sandor is the Cult leader. In my experience, the least time taken to explain something indicates its probability.

Sandor was accused of being Cult Leader.
Ser Rodrik claims Escort with scummy actions.
People voting Ser Rodrik because of "safe lynch"

There is a simple explanation and that is that Sandor is the Cult Leader

[Ser Ilyn]

Oberyn Im still pretty sure youre scum but youre not the cult leader (I think) so I guess you can wait. Anyway it would be pointless since no one believes me.

Unvote Oberyn

Ser Rodrik is obviously scum. I am guessing hes just a really derp consort who thought he might be able to trick a really derp town into thinking hes an escort but I am also confident hes not the cult leader.

I have no idea what Sandor is. He hasnt claimed serf yet so Im inclined to believe that he is either a stupid serf or scum so he is the wiser lynch since he could be the cult leader.

Vote Sandor


Cult leader is probably not shoving himself out into the open and trolling like an idiot. I'd say that a Cult Leader would be trying to hide, not shove himself into the open. I have no idea who the cult leader is, but I don't think it's Sandor. Rodrik is a safe lynch.

Enter WIFOM.


Ser Ilyn, destroyer of souls.

In my dreams.

[Robb]

Right now, I think Sandor is actually ghost possessed.
His posting style is slightly different.

[Stannis]

A question to those who are voting Ser Rodrik:

What do you plan to accomplish by lynching a consort (possibly culted consort)? Until we stop the cult from increasing their numbers, town doesn't stand a chance. If we let the cult grab all our PRs, town doesn't stand a chance. If Cult have a healing role culted, cult leader will be invulnerable at night.

If we find and lynch the Cult leader today, Ser Rodrik might possibly commit suicide tonight if he is culted.

All I see is a bunch of people trying to focus the lynch away from Sandor.

What if Sandor isnt the cult leader?

But on the other hand

What if Sandor is being possessed

[Joffrey]

Now the cultists remembered that there's a ghost out....

[Stannis]

Now the cultists remembered that there's a ghost out....

I'd think you're a cult member since you've been a claimed town power for how many days now?

[Stannis]

-vote Sandor

[Joffrey]

I'd think you're a cult member since you've been a claimed town power for how many days now?

Well, since I'm stupid (apparently) the cult don't want me!

[Sandor]

Yeah well i wonder what you guys say tomorrow when u lynched me and i flipped Serif. Cause this is exactly the scenario what will happen.

But he was so scummy the whole game qq, Lawl. Have fun. Btw for every town who thinks he can win with cult. you are mistaken the game will end if the cult has majority and thats auto lose for everybody else.

I am less scummy then half of the people who vote for me or are afk the whole game. It´s not my fault if the Town Power role players are all a bunch of newcommers who don´t even leave a last will before they die like our awesome Jailor over there.

If you should push the lynch to a point where i think it would be wise to suicide. I will do it. Even if ts considered game throwing. If the Lynch today is wasted on me, then Town has lost for sure and this would be against my victory condition as well.

Make your choice clowns.

ALSO GET SOME TALLIES UP FUCKEN NOOBS!

[Sandor]

I am not possessed and i am not culted and i have no night action instead of pray herp derp. If i would be the cult leader i would still play the same like i did all games. No i chance today my behaviour. "hint" "hint" To get lynched instead of my Cult leader. Lulz.

[Sandor]

Look how all people voting on me don´t even bother with tallies, because they don´t care anymore who exactly gets lynched, because they all know i am not on their team.

[Oberyn]

I'd think you're a cult member since you've been a claimed town power for how many days now?

I thought the same thing for awhile, but you also have to know that the cult don't want to recruit someone they think the mafia will kill at night making Joffrey a bad recruit. So far, Joffrey has given us all his results and no one has contested them (except his bishop) but Joffrey does have the fact he said he found a Mason/Doctor/Cultist/Witch, making his claim more believable.

[Sandor]

-vote Sir Rodric

[Cersei]

A question to those who are voting Ser Rodrik:

What do you plan to accomplish by lynching a consort (possibly culted consort)? Until we stop the cult from increasing their numbers, town doesn't stand a chance. If we let the cult grab all our PRs, town doesn't stand a chance. If Cult have a healing role culted, cult leader will be invulnerable at night.

If we find and lynch the Cult leader today, Ser Rodrik might possibly commit suicide tonight if he is culted.

All I see is a bunch of people trying to focus the lynch away from Sandor.

And what do you intend to do if Sandor flips serf? Do you want to keep lynching random serf claimers until you happen upon the cult leader by chance? In the meantime, the cult will recruit all the PRs. What if Rodrik is really the cult leader doing stupid WIFOM so he won't get night killed, and hoping that the town will take your perspective so he doesn't get lynched? He's been WIFOMing stupid the entire game so it's not impossible.

Then again, I actually wouldn't be entirely surprised if the ghost did pick Ser Rodrik, come to think of it. That claim was just too obviously scummy. And Ser Rodrik's former posts would be very easy to copy when it comes to style.

Sandor is probably CmG by the way. And CmG is always scum. And scummy. :p

[Joffrey]

Here is the damn tally. If you find an error, go fuck yourself.

Sandor (6): Oberyn, Joffrey, Ser Rodrik, Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Stannis
Ser Rodrik (3): Cersei, Daenerys, Robb
Daenerys (2): Sandor, Petyr

[Joffrey]

-vote Sir Rodric

You ask for a tally then vote and mess mine up.

[Sandor]

It all depends of if 'Joffrey is Consigniere and how many Mafia members are already culted. If you can control the nightkills cuz their Godfathers are like our Power roles you could get him savely culted. Also the Doctor would probably heal him or the Jailor. healing doesn´t protect against culting.

your Argument is stupid.

[Joffrey]

It all depends of if 'Joffrey is Consigniere and how many Mafia members are already culted. If you can control the nightkills cuz their Godfathers are like our Power roles you could get him savely culted. Also the Doctor would probably heal him or the Jailor. healing doesn´t protect against culting.

your Argument is stupid.

So now your argument is "Joffrey could be consigliere and it would be easy to cult him because of that"?? A Consigliere already died. That nearly clears me of being a consigliere. So come up with a better argument and stop being stupid yourself.

[Joffrey]

Sandor (6): Oberyn, Joffrey, Ser Rodrik, Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Stannis
Ser Rodrik (4): Cersei, Daenerys, Robb, Sandor
Daenerys (1): Petyr


The updated tally, cause Sandor's a bitch.

[Sandor]

We have 2 mafia teams silly willy. Orange has probably a consigniere as well. herp derp. Why should only 1 mafia team have an investigative role?

U selled the jailor out for nothing no town investigator would never ever do this if he has left a little bit of brain between his ears. Also Sir Rodric is definetly not on your team. Because he called u a retard as well :D.

Sir Rodric ghost controlled red consort. Daneyris prolly Cult leader. Your call.

[Sandor]

4 more votes until Town loses go on. :D

[Joffrey]

We have 2 mafia teams silly willy. Orange has probably a consigniere as well. herp derp. Why should only 1 mafia team have an investigative role?

U selled the jailor out for nothing no town investigator would never ever do this if he has left a little bit of brain between his ears. Also Sir Rodric is definetly not on your team. Because he called u a retard as well :D.

Sir Rodric ghost controlled red consort. Daneyris prolly Cult leader. Your call.

This is too idiot even for a desperate Cult Leader. Why should the town only have one investigative role?

I already told everyone about Ser Davos, I trusted my instincts and they were wrong.

If Ser Rodrik is the ghost possessed consort and Daenerys is the Cult Leader, why vote Ser Rodrik? Daenerys is the bigger threat and would make cultist suicide. Using your accusations, your actions are stupid.

[Sandor]

I miss the point hardcore why i should be the cult leader lol. If you really think i am the cult leader you are even more retarded then i thought you were and trust me you are pretty low already on my inteligence gala :D

[Sandor]

I meant skala but i guess you got the point anyway. Do you even read the day chat or are you only reading the stuff which is exactly pointed in your direction? Heck my breakfast was brigther then you :D

[Joffrey]

I miss the point hardcore why i should be the cult leader lol. If you really think i am the cult leader you are even more retarded then i thought you were and trust me you are pretty low already on my inteligence gala :D

At least I know when others are being stupid and am humble about it to admit it. And really, I'm not the only one to accuse you of the Cult Leader. So my intelligence doesn't matter here.

[Sandor]

I KNOW ZANE FFS!

[Sandor]

You dont even state why you think i am the cult leader. Oberyn did a reaaaaly long shot there and you clowns just jump the train for no reason because oyu dont fucking care. Because you are scum yourself.

[Sandor]

WHY WOULD THE CULT LEADER EVER POST IN YELLOW LIKE A RETARD EVERY FUCKING DAY? OR BEGGING TO BE MADE TO A PALADIN? HELLO MC FLY!?!? SOMEBODY THERE!? :D

[Sandor]

Where are my fucking cultist protecting me? LOLOLOLOL

[Sandor]

FUCKEN NOOBS :D

[Oberyn]

WHY WOULD THE CULT LEADER EVER POST IN YELLOW LIKE A RETARD EVERY FUCKING DAY? OR BEGGING TO BE MADE TO A PALADIN? HELLO MC FLY!?!? SOMEBODY THERE!? :D

Because you culted the interceptor and wanted to kill the other mason?

[Sandor]

Where are my cultist, derailing this lynch train? Are u guys really that dumb? Unbelievable. All those arguments are so damn weak. even if you are scum i expected better.

[Sandor]

Another Longshot from Oberyn our uber pro citizen godfather rofl.

[Ser Ilyn]

Another Longshot from Oberyn our uber pro citizen godfather rofl.

Youre both scum end of discussion. The difference is you are more likely to be the cult leader between the 3 of you.

[Sandor]

12 posts over 6 days? http://www.kotzendes-einhorn.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/obama-really-not-bad.jpg

Still waiting for one good argument for me being the cult leader. :D

[Petyr]

Still waiting for one good argument for me being the cult leader. :D

Because I voted with you earlier, duh.

[Sandor]

Wish i was a retard like Joffrey who got a Power role. Braindead zombies like him will get culted just because they have a night action. Oh well

[Sandor]

U haz sexy Beard! Me Gusta. Only Cult wears beards!

[Sandor]

Youre both scum end of discussion. The difference is you are more likely to be Town between the 3 of you.

Fixed!

[Robb]

Well, I see that no one is lynching Ser Rodrik.

Right now, however, I see no one else to possibly be the Cult Leader, except MAYBE Lord Varys, but he is more likely to be Richard the Flayer.
Dracula is our number 1 priority, and Sandor has basically given himself up...

-vote Sandor

[Sandor]

lol wut? Are u retarded? I am not the cult leader. I say it once again lynch me and Town definetly has lost. And this is my last post in this matter. you people dont want even see the truth. Every Town voter on me deserves to lose this.

[Ser Rodrik]

:)

[Robb]

:)

Thank you for your marvelous insight.

[Sandor]

Hammer me fast to waste 26 hours of possible town discussion time.

[Daenerys]

Alright. Everyone shut up. You're all retarded. Feel bad.

If we mislynch, we lose. The game becomes mafias vs cult with pointless daychat. Sandor is not a safe lynch. Ser Rodrik is. That's what we need to focus on. Mafia wants cult gone more than anything else, so many of those piling on the lynch train on Sandor is either a. mafia thinking they've found the cult leader (protip: they haven't) or cult trying to get a cit mislynch.

Let's take our time, be careful, and not fuck this up.

[Ser Ilyn]

Alright. Everyone shut up. You're all retarded. Feel bad.

Amen.



If we mislynch, we lose.

No duh sherlock.


Sandor is not a safe lynch. Ser Rodrik is.

Theyre both safe lynches. However lynching Rodrik wont reduce the kpn where Sandor might.

[Daenerys]

How is Sandor a safe lynch? He's probably a serf, and the train on him is for nothing more than trolling.

[Oberyn]

Daenerys, how many days do we have left until Cult have majority? Only way to stop that is to kill the cult leader. But you want that because you are culted..

I figure there is the cult leader + 4 other cultist. Tomorrow's lynch will only need 8 people and potentially 6 total cult. If we don't find the cult leader today or tomorrow, cult auto-win. Don't waste the day on a non cult leader suspect.

[Daenerys]

Except mafia, if they're smart, will be gunning for cultists. Also, why do you think I'm cultist? Because I want a sure lynch instead of a cit lynch?

[Oberyn]

Except mafia, if they're smart, will be gunning for cultists. Also, why do you think I'm cultist? Because I want a sure lynch instead of a cit lynch?

If I was right about Sandor slipping that there is a culted doctor and that there is at least 1 cultist in each mafia then all cultists have protection tonight.

[Oberyn]

Besides, what happened when Bronn said in his last will about Gregor being the cult leader? None of the mafia attacked him, in fact, one of them killed a mason. Who do you think has control over the night kills? Killing the masons did not help the mafia in any way.

[Daenerys]

If I was right about Sandor slipping that there is a culted doctor and that there is at least 1 cultist in each mafia then all cultists have protection tonight.

GF overrides night actions.

I believe the makeup of cult at the moment is one doctor, one member of a coven (whether Nosferatu or Children I don't know), one citizen, one other town PR. And, of course, Dracula. Doc is on dracula. Two GFs are gunning for cultists.

Nobody believes Bronn for whatever reason. Why not lynch Gregor if that will is right? Oh, because it's not trustworthy. A mason kill makes me think that the infiltrated mafia team has a noob GF.

[Daenerys]

OH wait, we did lynch Gregor and he was a Fool. Let's continue to randomly lynch cit claims! This won't fuck us over!

[Joffrey]

OH wait, we did lynch Gregor and he was a Fool. Let's continue to randomly lynch cit claims! This won't fuck us over!

Oh wait, what category are citizens in? Oh that's right! With the Cult leader and the Godfather/Godmother. Aren't we bright?

[Oberyn]

Doctor will be on who ever the mafia target that is culted. Cult Leader has a vest to protect him.

1- GF orders his mafia to kill cultist. Culted mafia tells the culted doctor, culted doctor protects cultist = no kill.
or
2- GF decides to kill non cult and avoid culted doctor = kill.

What situation do you think mafia GFs will pick?

[Daenerys]

Oh wait, what category are citizens in? Oh that's right! With the Cult leader and the Godfather/Godmother. Aren't we bright?

Let's see. We have precisely a buttload (roughly eight) citizens. One Cult leader. Two Godpeople.

OH JEEZ WHICH ONE IS MOST LIKELY?

Trolling cits are... not abnormal. They get bored.

Also, if one mafia is not infiltrated, then they can kill cultists.

[Petyr]

Doctor will be on who ever the mafia target that is culted. Cult Leader has a vest to protect him.

1- GF orders his mafia to kill cultist. Culted mafia tells the culted doctor, culted doctor protects cultist = no kill.
or
2- GF decides to kill non cult and avoid culted doctor = kill.

What situation do you think mafia GFs will pick?

Unless I'm missing something, couldn't the GF tell his people that they were killing someone different than the person he ultimately orders to kill to fuck with the cult?

I feel like there should be a term for that, but I dunno.

[Daenerys]

Unless I'm missing something, couldn't the GF tell his people that they were killing someone different than the person he ultimately orders to kill to fuck with the cult?

I feel like there should be a term for that, but I dunno.
That's a pretty good idea. I hope the GF who killed the Mason is listening.

[Oberyn]

Let's see. We have precisely a buttload (roughly eight) citizens. One Cult leader. Two Godpeople.

OH JEEZ WHICH ONE IS MOST LIKELY?

So your solution is exactly that, don't go looking for the cult leader because you'll never find him. Might as well GG right now.

Compared to every other day where you have gone with the bandwagons, you are defending Sandor with your life. Thats why I believe you are culted defending the leader. Not to mention your complete lack of posts on d4.

[Daenerys]

So your solution is exactly that, don't go looking for the cult leader because you'll never find him. Might as well GG right now.

Compared to every other day where you have gone with the bandwagons, you are defending Sandor with your life. Thats why I believe you are culted defending the leader. Not to mention your complete lack of posts on d4.

Then am I a safe lynch to you? That would be more evidence than you have against Sandor right now.

[Daenerys]

I am thinking more and more that the people who started the train on Sandor are cultists trying to get a mislynch.

[Oberyn]

Then am I a safe lynch to you? That would be more evidence than you have against Sandor right now.

I figure that you are a culted citizen that was totally bored and lurking. You use to jump on every bandwagon with no reason saying Choo choo all the time. Now today, you changed and are defending someone for the first time, if you are still a town cit, then you should have no reason at all the defend him.

I'm off to bed.

[Daenerys]

I figure that you are a culted citizen that was totally bored and lurking. You use to jump on every bandwagon with no reason saying Choo choo all the time. Now today, you changed and are defending someone for the first time, if you are still a town cit, then you should have no reason at all the defend him.

I'm off to bed.
Two mistakes.
1. I'm not culted.
2. I don't like losing.

That's why I'm stepping my shit up. Because I don't feel like losing.

[Aemon]

-vote Sandor

If he is cult then so is Daenerys, if he isn't then Oberyn is probably cult for starting this train. Only one way to find out!

[Cersei]

Inb4 Janos is cult leader and Robb and Ser Rodrik are mafia together.

[Ser Jorah]

Sorry all for my absence, I was away for a day. I hope I can contribute more today (the early lynch yesterday stymied my plans!).

I think I'd first like to comment on the two most prominent lynchees for today.

Ser Rodrik - we all know he's been pretty fishy all game, jumping on lynches (quite early in some cases). He didn't feel the need to explain his actions, and more importantly I think he's tried to bandwagon and steer false lynches while maintaining a slightly trolly and low profile. I almost believed his Escort claim for a second, I might have been able to understand his actions if he had a little bit of exclusive information and didn't want to be too high on the town leader spotlight. I think there has been some obvious... oddness to his claim though. Blocking the prominent Paladin claim the night she died was 'convenient', to say the least. Honestly I think four theories make sense here: a) he is a Consort, wary of being investigated or a Detective/Lookout and sticking to his alibi (or a Consort sent for the kill), b) He is a Culted Escort/Consort that has done their job and is willing to take attention for the day, c) He is being possessed by the Ghost, and the Ghost wants him dead with some fun and games, or d) He is a Serf who has been bored and disinterested for most of the game and is trying a clumsy gambit.

I think a) or b) are by far the most convincing arguments right now.

Sandor - Could be a Serf (anyone could be a Serf!) but I still think he's spouting a lot of BS. I don't think he's Town, I really agree with some of the observations made about him in this train. However we've been burned before by really crappy citizens who'd rather be aggressive and lash out than calmly make a case for themselves. People think being a citizen means you can't defend yourself with proof or that you're at a disadvantage because you don't have any powers. Here's a newsflash; even if you're a Sheriff, in a game of 30-40 people you'll probably only get results on 3 or 4 live people if you're lucky. It's hardly a major advantage, the town must collaborate. As you can imagine I think that if Sandor is town I think he's doing a poor job right now. I'm not sure that he is though. I think he is panicky. I think he genuinely has made some mistakes and slip-ups, which have been caught by observant town leaders. I know Cersei is skeptical about this. I think Sandor even tried to WIFOM himself some armour and draw out an armoursmith claim to disprove him. Well it won't work because I received armour last night; I don't know why, I suspect the armoursmith may have some kind of faith in me or voted on the jester, but even a skeptic on the Sandor lynch like Cersei should be wary of his continuous attempts at misinformation. FYI I think I'll probably use that armour tonight (well of course I'd say that ^^).

Speaking of which, I think everyone should observe Oberyn and Cersei heavily in the coming days. If they don't get killed then I'd seriously suspect them to be culted, and we must diligently look out for changes of behaviour.

I'd like to hear more from Ser Ilyn and Melisandre, specifically on the Rodrik vs. Sandor lynch perhaps, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

Oh and Joffrey, I'm hoping you can provide us with some compelling evidence in the coming days. Try and use your findings in a subtle manner, questioning people to make them slip up, or momentarily falsifying evidence on someone who is scummy to test them (see if they play along, etc.).

As for my vote? This is a tricky one, but I'd like to actually get my vote down today. Right now I think I'm going to vote for... Rodrik. I feel greater conviction in the scenarios I played out for him, and I think his lynch might yield greater information in the long run (if I can be bothered to go back AGAIN and specifically look at his voting patterns and the way this day played out with the claim and distractions from Sandor ^^).

-vote Ser Rodrik

[Ser Jorah]

Wow this is certainly the lowest post count I've ever contributed in a FM before, but I've been favouring fewer posts with more content. I think it helps people if they try to take stock of me.

Oh and the cat avatar is not a secret mafia code ^^ I simply don't know much about GoT and I liked Varys' cat picture (so I thought I'd find a memorable one).

My internet is out at home so I'm typing this on a friend's laptop. Won't be able to respond too much for the next few hours, so let's make the most of the remaining time and not hammer too early because I'd like to make it back before the end of the day.

[Melisandre]

I'd like to hear more from Ser Ilyn and Melisandre, specifically on the Rodrik vs. Sandor lynch perhaps, but I'm not holding my breath for that.


Ser Jorah Mormont, I shall grant you your request.

A serf claim is a safe claim for Sandor. He has been posting in yellow since Day 1 and has tried to make himself the subject of much attention. However, he is clearly doing it to be unappealing as well. A Godfather/Cult Leader would have much to gain by playing out in the open, while being overlooked. I had initially written Sandor off as a simple Citizen of Westeros, but his inability to give the Town anything worthwhile in terms of information or scum-hunting leads me to believe he is not our ally. Not at all. It becomes a question of whose ally is he? (In addition, why would Sandor claim role-blocked when we have a missing mafia kill [one mafia kill, one forced jailor execution on our Bishop]? Mafioso, anyone?)

Something is wrong with the Ser Rodrik situation. He claimed that he role-blocked Daenerys on Day 3, but she failed to verify this claim and instead backed Stannis Baratheon. Therefore, I must conclude that Daenerys intentionally avoided Ser Rodrik's claim and voted him to get our Escort out of the way. I would suggest that Stannis and Daenerys are on the same mafia team, while Lord Varys is on the opposing team. I do not trust either of them.

However, it is quite possible that Ser Rodrik is mafia. But then, why did Oberyn not deny the claim? Nor Daenerys? All she would have had to do was come online and say he was lying, but she neglected to do so. Trying to save face and avoid more questions, always the tricky dragonborn.

The problem remains that the Cult Leader is still at large. Hence the Sandor vote: all mafia teams are afraid of the converted.

[Cersei]

Ser Tally

Sandor [8]: Oberyn, Joffrey, Ser Rodrik, Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Stannis, Robb, Aemon
Ser Rodrik [4]: Cersei, Daenerys, Sandor, Ser Jorah
Daenerys [1]: Petyr

10 votes to lynch.

Jorah clearly forgot another option for Ser Rodrik: he has a night chat with a consort/escort and is claiming this so he can dodge the serf hunt. It's curious that Robb defended his claim and called it believable, while he himself is a consort/escort. If Robb was an escort (unconverted), he would find that claim suspicious as hell. For that reason I think Robb is either consort or cult escort and Rodrik is in a night chat with him.


Something is wrong with the Ser Rodrik situation. He claimed that he role-blocked Daenerys on Day 3, but she failed to verify this claim and instead backed Stannis Baratheon. Therefore, I must conclude that Daenerys intentionally avoided Ser Rodrik's claim and voted him to get our Escort out of the way. I would suggest that Stannis and Daenerys are on the same mafia team, while Lord Varys is on the opposing team. I do not trust either of them.
Both Daenerys and Oberyn already confirmed those roleblocks in day chat the night after they happened. Ser Rodrik's roleclaim is clearly fabricated. There was no point in confirming it again. I think you're scum now...

Let's make a list of roleclaims.

1. Richard The Flayer
2. Nosferatu Devout
3. Nosferatu Devout
4. Anya Nighthawk
5. Child of the Stars
6. Child of the Stars
7. Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
8. Investigator (Joffrey)
9. Escort (Ser Rodrik)
10. Random Town
11. Random Town
12. Serf (Cersei)
13. Serf (Daenerys)
14. Serf (Samwell)
15. Serf (Sandor)
16. Serf (Aemon)
17. Serf (Oberyn)
18. Serf (Lord Varys)
19. Serf

Even if there are liars among the current claims, most people who haven't claimed anything are most likely scum (Janos, Khal Drogo, Ser Jorah, Tywin, Melisandre, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Robb, Petyr)

[Cersei]

1. Richard The Flayer
2. Nosferatu Devout
3. Nosferatu Devout
4. Anya Nighthawk
5. Child of the Stars
6. Child of the Stars
7. Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
8. Investigator (Joffrey)
9. Escort (Ser Rodrik)
10. Armorsmith
11. Random Town
12. Serf (Cersei)
13. Serf (Daenerys)
14. Serf (Samwell)
15. Serf (Sandor)
16. Serf (Aemon)
17. Serf (Oberyn)
18. Serf (Lord Varys)
19. Serf


NEW LIST WITH COLORS!

[Daenerys]

(In addition, why would Sandor claim role-blocked when we have a missing mafia kill [one mafia kill, one forced jailor execution on our Bishop]? Mafioso, anyone?)
There's no Mafioso in the setup. Nice try though.

[Melisandre]

Ser Tally

Sandor [8]: Oberyn, Joffrey, Ser Rodrik, Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Stannis, Robb, Aemon
Ser Rodrik [4]: Cersei, Daenerys, Sandor, Ser Jorah
Daenerys [1]: Petyr

10 votes to lynch.

Jorah clearly forgot another option for Ser Rodrik: he has a night chat with a consort/escort and is claiming this so he can dodge the serf hunt. It's curious that Robb defended his claim and called it believable, while he himself is a consort/escort. If Robb was an escort (unconverted), he would find that claim suspicious as hell. For that reason I think Robb is either consort or cult escort and Rodrik is in a night chat with him.


Both Daenerys and Oberyn already confirmed those roleblocks in day chat the night after they happened. Ser Rodrik's roleclaim is clearly fabricated. There was no point in confirming it again. I think you're scum now...

Let's make a list of roleclaims.

1. Richard The Flayer
2. Nosferatu Devout
3. Nosferatu Devout
4. Anya Nighthawk
5. Child of the Stars
6. Child of the Stars
7. Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
8. Investigator (Joffrey)
9. Escort (Ser Rodrik)
10. Random Town
11. Random Town
12. Serf (Cersei)
13. Serf (Daenerys)
14. Serf (Samwell)
15. Serf (Sandor)
16. Serf (Aemon)
17. Serf (Oberyn)
18. Serf (Lord Varys)
19. Serf

Even if there are liars among the current claims, most people who haven't claimed anything are most likely scum (Janos, Khal Drogo, Ser Jorah, Tywin, Melisandre, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Robb, Petyr)

Realistically, we should be pressuring people for claims. We would be quick to find a liar and either Robb or Ser Rodrik is one.

I've already hinted at my claim and anyone taking notes about my posts shall be able to confirm my role should I need to claim it.

If your list is accurate, Queen Regent, then I most certainly already agree with you about Khal Drogo, Ser Ilyn, Tywin, and Petyr. I would also add Lord Varys, and Stannis Baratheon.

Since I do not fear death, my possible death tonight will help you narrow your role list even further.

[Melisandre]

1. Richard The Flayer
2. Nosferatu Devout
3. Nosferatu Devout
4. Anya Nighthawk
5. Child of the Stars
6. Child of the Stars
7. Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
8. Investigator (Joffrey)
9. Escort (Ser Rodrik)
10. Armorsmith
11. Random Town
12. Serf (Cersei)
13. Serf (Daenerys)
14. Serf (Samwell)
15. Serf (Sandor)
16. Serf (Aemon)
17. Serf (Oberyn)
18. Serf (Lord Varys)
19. Serf


NEW LIST WITH COLORS!

To clarify: I am your missing Eleven. Only the Armorsmith is missing, along with one more Citizen. The rest have been tainted.

[Cersei]

Right, I forgot Stannis' name in the no-claims list. He's probably some sort of scum too. Probably in one of the covens.

[Ser Jorah]

In a way, there's a tiny benefit in having so little town power roles left; scum will be pretty much forced to claim citizen from now on, so we'd better begin pressuring people for claims. Not sure we'll be able to achieve much of this threat today, since we don't have too much time and our lynch intentions are fairly focused, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try :)

We'll also have to hope that the last unclaimed town role will be able to prove themselves with some useful information at some point, but the possibility of the cult will make this more difficult. In a weird way, the godfathers of each mafia team are kinda allied to the town right now. They should not be afraid to dismiss the advice of their teams and go for their gut instincts on targets.

I wish I hadn't revealed my armour tbh, would have been an extra way of interrogating armoursmith claimers (and I could have eaten up a cult/kill...). Oh well.

[Ser Jorah]

Actually, right now, shall we just try and organise a flash lynch on one of the scummier non-claimers? I know that I haven't claimed but I'd say I'm less of a priority than some others ^^

Not going to change my vote yet, but at the end of the day Rodrik has been forced to claim and I don't believe he is the Cult Leader at all - it might be more useful to have someone else under the knife so we can get more claims, we can soon find out whether or not Rodrik is lying about his claim (or culted).

[Cersei]

I wish I hadn't revealed my armour tbh, would have been an extra way of interrogating armoursmith claimers (and I could have eaten up a cult/kill...). Oh well.

If you are a power role, maybe it'll work in our advantage by buying you one more day of non-cultdom. Unfortunately, I have no idea if you aren't scum to begin with. Time will tell.


Not going to change my vote yet, but at the end of the day Rodrik has been forced to claim and I don't believe he is the Cult Leader at all - it might be more useful to have someone else under the knife so we can get more claims, we can soon find out whether or not Rodrik is lying about his claim (or culted).
I'd be OK with this but I doubt there's enough time to switch. The risk of a no-lynch would be too great with the number of inactives we have.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Fun fact: If one person changed their vote per hour, you'd have 4 hours to spare.

[Ser Jorah]

14 hours to go, 10 votes needed... getting anyone lynched shouldn't be too hard.

I really hope both mafia teams aren't infiltrated by the cult. The question is, do we expect the cult to use this information? Will the cultists lynch a known unculted mafia member?

This is a plea to the scum teams:

Godfathers - the Cult is your enemy. The Town is fairly weak, feel free to kill off mafia members you think have been compromised (though in that regard you may already be screwed, just think of FMVII, if you've been infiltrated then as soon as ANY cult member dies their last will can out you).

Cult - you have no doubt been growing strong. If you have infiltrated either vampire coven, feel free to send a culted serf or low-priority member into the open, giving us the names of the Godfathers and unculted members. Imagine if we had a list of 3 or 4 mafia members. We can only lynch one person per day. After a few days you'd no doubt have the majority anyway. Give us some names.

The situation is not lost for anyone yet. The current roles list could be equated to a tough but feasible M-FM. The only problem is the advanced cult size. The best way for Cult to utilize this is to compromise the integrity of non-culted mafia members. Even if the Godfathers spill the names of all their mafia teammates so we can find the culted members... the cult have town recruits and it'll take too long to lynch everyone.

If the Cult don't realize that they have this advantage then we're in a better position than I thought.

[Sandor]

gg we lose. Losing as town is better than winning as cult. Enjoy your next days without me. Also all those lurkers out there who are town. Why do you even bother playing in FM´s if you do nothing then giving scum a schield to hide behind. God i hate you so much. Just look at Aemon he contributed the whole game exactly. NOTHING.

But whatever have fun. Its a shame we cant claim coms. Some people s word in this game have too much weight because you dont see who is behind the anonym account.

[Lord Varys]

I really hope both mafia teams aren't infiltrated by the cult. The question is, do we expect the cult to use this information? Will the cultists lynch a known unculted mafia member?

The GF overrides every action, period.
Define infiltrated. If we can destroy the cult and they reveal there intel, I would have thought that to be a good thing.

[Sandor]

Don´t you think the lynch train on me went way too fast if i really would be cult or Cult leader? You guys are pathethic.

Change your vote to Sir Rodric or lose the game Townies.

[Ser Jorah]

Jesus christ Sandor, if you are a Citizen you are completely AWFUL.

Do you even read?

You are pathetically needy and you're bringing attention on yourself. You're pathetic, I'd think you were trying to get yourself lynched but there's no jester in this setup.

I'd rather contribute to YOUR lynch train now, we are after all facing a lot of Citizen claims with no way of defining between them and the 3 cult leader/godfather roles.

[Sandor]

This must be the most stupid thread i ve read from you. But almost all your posts were completely shitty the whole game :D

[Sandor]

go and take your nap. Mofo or go and cry some more on skype how boring this fm 12 is. useless citizen

[Ser Jorah]

Insulting the person who was voting to lynch Ser Rodrik and optimistic about getting enough votes to lynch someone else ENTIRELY was a great idea. I don't complain about setups, be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

The only way I can justify your posts is if you've been possessed and the Ghost really does want you lynched.

Well if that's the case, you've eloquently proved your point and now I actually WILL vote against you.

-vote Sandor

[Ser Jorah]

-unvote

No I shouldn't vote emotionally.

Sandor could easily be a petulant and sulking citizen, I don't think he's covering for Rodrik since he is trying to throw him under the bus after all.

Wanting someone lynched and someone being the best priority for a town lynch are two different matters.

[Oberyn]

-vote Sandor

-unvote


Ser Jorah: You look too scummy for me to defend you, I have to protect my own skin. (vote)

Ser Jorah: Oh wait! That makes him L-1. (unvote)

[Sandor]

you are such a try hard Oberyn oh my god.

[Cersei]

If we want to pressure someone to reveal, I'd suggest Tywin, Janos or Ser Ilyn. In my eyes they are definite possibilities for Dracula. Tywin and Ser Ilyn have both been quite shady and Janos is forthcoming with night events but only rarely actively participates in directing the day thread.

[Ser Jorah]

Correct Oberyn.

I think he looks scummy. I don't want to protect him, I'd like to see him lynched.

I realised that I rose to his insults and I put him at L-1, and I'd rather the day didn't end now, and would prefer to see someone else lynched.

:D

I thought I told you in the night 4 chat that you shouldn't associate with me and that we should only protect each other if someone else accused us.

[Cersei]

Sandor accused Oberyn of being godfather. Does that count?

[Robb]

It's curious that Robb defended his claim and called it believable, while he himself is a consort/escort. If Robb was an escort (unconverted), he would find that claim suspicious as hell. For that reason I think Robb is either consort or cult escort and Rodrik is in a night chat with him.


I found his claim believable because none of his blocks coincided with mine, and those were all the missing roleblocks besides Yoren on Day 3.

Oops, am I claiming Fiddler?

N1 Ser Loras, N2 Aemon, N3 Melisandre, N4 Tywin, N5 Melisandre (she was great in bed, after all [and scummy])

See how those fill in Ser Loras, Aemon, and Tywin's claims.

Melisandre can confirm me for last night, I believe, as I did not vote for the fool.

[Ser Jorah]

Interesting. Melisandre wanted to claim being the last power role right?

[Cersei]

I think I know what Melisandre is, but I'm not saying it out loud. She is not a doctor.

[Sandor]

I was blocked yesterday as i stated earlier. Team red prolly end their trapper last night out for the direct kill instead of their consort.

[Cersei]

I found his claim believable because none of his blocks coincided with mine, and those were all the missing roleblocks besides Yoren on Day 3.

Oops, am I claiming Fiddler?

N1 Ser Loras, N2 Aemon, N3 Melisandre, N4 Tywin, N5 Melisandre (she was great in bed, after all [and scummy])

See how those fill in Ser Loras, Aemon, and Tywin's claims.

Melisandre can confirm me for last night, I believe, as I did not vote for the fool.

Interesting. I'd like to see confirmation from Melisandre.

I still think Ser Rodrik is consort or affiliated to a consort in some way. He may have visited Sandor.

[Cersei]

I was blocked yesterday as i stated earlier. Team red prolly end their trapper last night out for the direct kill instead of their consort.

How do you know the trapper is on team Nosferatu? Are you the godmother with a beard?

I agree that the trapper was sent to kill Ser Davos though, because with serfs visiting people that trap was too risky. And it's probably someone who didn't vote for the fool because Ser Davos was a great target because of his value to the cult.

[Oberyn]

Has there been anything in the RP that I have been missing that indicates what team killed who? How do you know it's Red team that killed last night?

[Stannis]

Welp Melisandre is a mafia member, but she's not the Godmother/Godfather since she claimed to be a town power, which means she is a safe lynch if we want to lynch a mafia member. If we want the Cult Leader, no point

[Cersei]

Welp Melisandre is a mafia member, but she's not the Godmother/Godfather since she claimed to be a town power, which means she is a safe lynch if we want to lynch a mafia member. If we want the Cult Leader, no point

And where is your PR role claim?

[Petyr]

Since all the town power roles are virtually claimed, there's no point in hiding who I am anymore: I'm a serf yo.

I realize that'll probably put me on the fast track to get lynched as a GF candidate, but if you look at my play this game you'll see I tried (and failed) to be a lurking town power role. Then I tried to piss people off like Jon to get shot at night. Apparently nobody believed me though since not a single thing has happened to me this game that I'm aware of. :(

[Robb]

So basically claims:

Investigator- Joffrey
Escort-Ser Rodrik
Escort-Robb
Random Town PR (Armoursmith?)- Melisandre
Serf- Cersei, Daenerys, Samwell, Sandor, Aemon, Oberyn, Lord Varys, Petyr

[Sandor]

lol, ever heard of balanced mafia teams? Consi, trapper, Consort, gf. vs Consi, consort, Janitor, gf

[Janos]

Janos is forthcoming with night events but only rarely actively participates in directing the day thread.

No kidding. Let me sum up the events of this FM for you from my point of view.

Day 1:
Troll day

Day 2:
Bronn claims student shadily, then changes to investigator.
Me: Hey look guys, there's no way a student would be that vague. Let's lynch him!
No lynch.

Day 3:
Joffrey also claims investigator.
Me: Uuuh, guys, there are two investigator claims. I bet one of them is a consigliere. Let's push a lynch on one of them...?
No lynch.

Day 4:
Me: ... What part of two investigators not happening don't you understand, town. DO SOMETHING.
Bronn gets lynched. Flips consigliere.

Day 5:
Lynch train on Ser Gregor.
Me: Uuuh, guys, I don't know if that's a good idea...
Ser Gregor flips jester.

Day 6:
Me: Screw this town. They're not going to win.
Jack: YOU ARE GAMETHROWING IF YOU ASK FOR CONVERSION.
Me: ...


So at this point, I've concluded that town neither listens to me, (and some people don't even have the courtesy to read what happened to me at night AFTER I've already stated it), and anything I try to do to otherwise is gamethrowing. So at this point, I've just given up. I've tried hard all game to push town in the right direction as serf, feigning as PR by not posting as much, and even going so much as taunting the freaking Mafia into attacking me. But you know, whatever. I'll just continue ramming my head against a wall. Just tell me where you need my vote, and I'll place it.

[Oberyn]

Need your vote on Sandor

[Sandor]

I feel your pain Janos.

[Sandor]

I like how oberyn just tl dr s you and screams to vote me lulz :D

[Sandor]

Also noobs what shall it be can you vote somebody else if i go suicide now? What do you think? Somebody with a brain please respond.

[Ser Rodrik]

But you won't suicide, so shut the fuck up.

[Sandor]

I asked for a Town player response not consort scum. gtfo

[Janos]

Sandor, whom do YOU think town should lynch?

[Ser Rodrik]

I asked for a Town player response not consort scum. gtfo


"Somebody with a brain please respond."

This town has caused it's own downfall. Especially Daenerys denying my RB. He's obviously fucking scum. You too. You're both prob cult, but w/e

[Sandor]

The cult leader of course. Since he went for lurkers mostly of the time for recruiting. I think he is a player who is more careful player who tries to slip under the radar himself with a low post count and being someone who does not polarize. Someone who plays in the middle like.

Janos or Cersei. Someone who didn´t vote on the jester because he knew he wasn´t the cult leader.
One out of those guys. You know his team falls and wins with him so he has to play more or less on his own. Lurking most of the game while recruiting power roles at night.

If i were the cult leader i would never vote on anybody especially not if i know that there is a jester in game like Janos stated earlier.

This is the Tally from yesterday:

Ser Gregor[12] - Sandor, Petyr, Khal Drogo, Daenerys, Viserys, Stannis, Lord Varys, Ser Rodrik, Ser Davos, Joffrey, Oberyn, Melisandre
Khal Drogo[1] - Cersei

Everyone who voted on the jester is probably not the cult leader. Those who didn´t vote the jester. One of those guys should be our lynch for today.

[Sandor]

"Somebody with a brain please respond."

This town has caused it's own downfall. Especially Daenerys denying my RB. He's obviously fucking scum. You too. You're both prob cult, but w/e

Blocking the paladin on his night when he dies. The only downfall for town are power roles like you who don´t think while using their night actions. Your night actions only make sense when you were culted.

You are pathethic if you are town

[Sandor]

Also Janos and Cersei are rather pro cult at this point in game while Janos claimed to have received armor. If you state you got armor you signalize scum that attacking you could be a wasted night action for them. She could be a scape goat as well for the actual cult leader who knows.

My game will prolly end here today anyway.

[Oberyn]

Why wouldn't the cult leader vote for the jester? He still recruits, just randomly recruits.

[Khal Drogo]

Ser Gregor[12] - Sandor, Petyr, Khal Drogo, Daenerys, Viserys, Stannis, Lord Varys, Ser Rodrik, Ser Davos, Joffrey, Oberyn, Melisandre
Khal Drogo[1] - Cersei


Cersei rustles my jimmies every day.

[Sandor]

Why wouldn't the cult leader vote for the jester? He still recruits, just randomly recruits.

Because my mindless Zombie friend, double recruiting your own members sucks. Also if you have a lot of people in your night chat you have a lot of information so it is easy for him to recruit power roles because he doesnt have to fillter the lies out of th einformation he recieves.

[Ser Jorah]

The cult leader of course. Since he went for lurkers mostly of the time for recruiting. I think he is a player who is more careful player who tries to slip under the radar himself with a low post count and being someone who does not polarize. Someone who plays in the middle like.

Janos or Cersei. Someone who didn´t vote on the jester because he knew he wasn´t the cult leader.
One out of those guys. You know his team falls and wins with him so he has to play more or less on his own. Lurking most of the game while recruiting power roles at night.

Cersei is hardly lurking and trying to slip under the radar while not being a polarizing figure. He's one of the few people that's remained active from start to finish, who has been in the thick of the scumhunt.

[Ser Jorah]

Mr. Khal Drogo, what is YOUR opinion on the game? You've been even lurkier than I have and I'm not sure I remember anything you've posted.

[Sandor]

Mr. Khal Drogo, what is YOUR opinion on the game? You've been even lurkier than I have and I'm not sure I remember anything you've posted.

I have just more information as you do. It´s called meta. I know who he is and i know how he plays =). Does nobody finds it strange that there is no signal of the ghost today?

[Oberyn]

I have just more information as you do. It´s called meta. I know who he is and i know how he plays =). Does nobody finds it strange that there is no signal of the ghost today?

Ghost has just as much information as a citizen does and the Ghost is busy hunting for the mafia that killed him. Ghost does not care about the cult. I'd guess that the ghost would want Rodrik dead and can easily blend in to do that.

[Sandor]

Cersei slips hard. he pushes in no direction but he is present. Don´t you think its strange that he knows i am not the cult leader but doesnt try to get the cult leader lynched and advertises for the cult?

Is here no one left who wants to win this as town?

[Sandor]

Cersei slips hard under the radar. he pushes in no direction but he is present on every day with almmost no impact at all always tends to be neutral kinda strange for a serf don´t you agree? Don´t you think its strange that he knows i am not the cult leader but doesnt try to get the cult leader lynched and advertises for the cult?

Is here no one left who wants to win this as town?

[Khal Drogo]

Mr. Khal Drogo, what is YOUR opinion on the game? You've been even lurkier than I have and I'm not sure I remember anything you've posted.

I think that town needed to step up their game. So far we have a consig and jester lynched. The vigilante killed a witch.
It's probable that the ghost was forced to target someone who died last night. Samwell probably got culted last night, since he's not talking at all, but a culted citizen is meh on my list.
I don't know about Sandor, he could be cult leader but I'm not willing to lynch him just yet because he's probably a citizen.

[Sandor]

This will be my last post for today. It´s quite simple vote rodrik if you want scum lynched for today. Vote me if you want to see a serf lynched. It´s as easy as that.

Good bye

[Ser Jorah]

I think that town needed to step up their game. So far we have a consig and jester lynched. The vigilante killed a witch.
It's probable that the ghost was forced to target someone who died last night. Samwell probably got culted last night, since he's not talking at all, but a culted citizen is meh on my list.
I don't know about Sandor, he could be cult leader but I'm not willing to lynch him just yet because he's probably a citizen.

I'd definitely say that you'd be a good lynch target in the future. I'm not anal enough to think that 'town needed to step up their game' is an indicator that you are not part of the town, I just think you've tried too hard to slip under the radar. If you are town I think you need to consider stepping up your game as well.

I don't think we'll see any other town power role claims from now on - anyone who waits much longer to claim will have to answer the question "Why didn't you counter-claim much earlier to help us lynch?".

I think, as the town, we need to go for an all-or-nothing push at this point. I think we should finish the lynch on Ser Rodrik. I absolutely hate the idea of leaving Sandor for another day. However, I think if Ser Rodrik flips Consort (or culted Consort) we win. If he flips culted Escort, we win. If he flips unculted Escort, well, it sucks but we IMMEDIATELY have a bunch of suspects for discussion tomorrow.

I just don't think Sandor is the Cult Leader, if he is then I would hate to be cult.

-vote Ser Rodrik

[Melisandre]

I can, indeed, confirm that I was role-blocked nights 3 and 5. I expressed my dismay on Day 4 as much. That does not clarify between Escort and Consort, however.


Welp Melisandre is a mafia member, but she's not the Godmother/Godfather since she claimed to be a town power, which means she is a safe lynch if we want to lynch a mafia member. If we want the Cult Leader, no point

Explain this, please? I am most certainly not infected by evil. You are clearly scum and I would rally a vote against you were it not so late in the day. You lurk and provide no evidence for your claims. When I am killed, you will be the first to die.

[Cersei]

Sandor is tired of the game and wants me to lynch him. However, I haven't completely given up yet.


When I am killed, you will be the first to die.
If you are what I thought you claimed to be, that wouldn't be the case. Since I'm now confused, would you permit me to share my guess?

[Melisandre]

Sandor is tired of the game and wants me to lynch him. However, I haven't completely given up yet.


If you are what I thought you claimed to be, that wouldn't be the case. Since I'm now confused, would you permit me to share my guess?

WIFOM may be required. Remember, we do have a Consort to deal with.

[Ser Jorah]

We have 8 hours left, but some of us may not be around for long because of time zones.

I'm going to go through and tally the votes from scratch and post up the current tally and voting patterns for today.

[Ser Jorah]

Current Tally:

Ser Rodrik (4) – Cersei, Daenerys, Sandor, Ser Jorah
Daenerys (1) – Petyr
Sandor (8) – Oberyn, Joffrey, Ser Rodrik, Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Stannis, Robb, Aemon

Some notes to follow.

[Khal Drogo]

Current Tally:

Ser Rodrik (4) – Cersei, Daenerys, Sandor, Ser Jorah
Daenerys (1) – Petyr
Sandor (8) – Oberyn, Joffrey, Ser Rodrik, Lord Varys, Ser Ilyn, Stannis, Robb, Aemon

Some notes to follow.

I'd rather to see Rodrik lynched. Sandor is probably a serf. Daenerys is probably a serf. Is it too lat in the day to get 5 more votes?
-vote Ser Rodrik

[Oberyn]

However, I think if Ser Rodrik flips Consort (or culted Consort) we win. If he flips culted Escort, we win.
-vote Ser Rodrik

Please explain to me how you calculated that?
If Rodrik flips culted, then cult get -1 +1 tonight = same tomorrow.
If Rodrik flips unculted consort, then cult get +1 tonight and will only need 2 non cult to join a lynch to hammer.

I don't see any win there unless you are cult.

[Ser Jorah]

Lord Varys: Votes for Stannis then Sandor


This is preaty obvious, but if Dracula's death isn't iminent, things will go down hill fast.

Policy lynch time.

-Vote Stannis

Lurks more then 25 posts. Contributes little, and goes with the crowd.


Role-blocking the confirmed Paladin means that Rodrick is preaty much confirmed scum. However, I believe that Rodrik is a Cultist, and he is intentionaly claiming to have blocked the paladin to act as a scapegoat for the Cult Leader. Judging by what we know and can guess about the Cult Leader, the people who are currently voting for Rodrik are in the high risk zone for being culted.

I like Oberyn's theory, and this time, the man fits the crime. Sandor has been trolling and contributing little, and could very well be the Cult Leader.

-Vote Sandor

Analysis - Oberyn had just made a good post (post no. 37) about Sandor, so I can understand this change of vote. I can also understand him initiating all the voting with a vote trying to pressure someone with a lower post count. I am confused by this particular logic though, especially since Sandor initially pushed for a lynch on Daenerys (one of the Rodrik voters) and has really made an effort to get lynched and be noticed.

Cersei: Votes for Ser Rodrik


Vote Ser Rodrik

This guy likes trains so much it's about time he becomes the target of one.

Analysis - Cersei's vote is backed up by sound reasoning, especially post number 39. He hasn't strayed from it.

Sandor: Votes Daenerys then Ser Rodrik

(votes Daenerys without explaining why)


“I love your Logic Oberyn. you applied the same thing yesterday on Ser Catface but you didnt vote for him. Also the whole game you try to be sooo damn town pro that i have to puke. Either you are the most obvious citizen ever or you are just scum.”

(I just had to quote that, what the hell is wrong with an obvious citizen? Citizens aren't just brainless meatshields, just cause Sandor can't be pro-Town doesn't mean it's a bad thing...)

(then votes Ser Rodrik, and he doesn't really explain it at the time, just jumps on)

Analysis - Honestly my faith in humanity took a nose dive in a previous game (mentioning no names) where a Citizen basically gamethrew by trolling and insulting everyone and tying up a whole day trying to get himself lynched. Sandor insults the town, calling everyone a noob, invites his own death, admits defeat, and basically trolls us with these lynch trains.

Oberyn: Votes Sandor

Analysis - Post 37 is Oberyn's reasoning for this vote and he hasn't switched it since.

Joffrey: Votes Sandor


Oberyn, that makes more sense. I was trying to put Sandor in my roles list here and cult leader was difficult. Since we should lynch a scum and I don't doubt Sandor's scummyness.

-Vote Sandor

Even if he's not the cult leader he's still scum

Analysis - Mostly just convinced of Sandor's general scumminess, has left his vote on him.

Petyr: Votes Daenerys


Well, I'm going to

-vote Daenerys

At least until they speak up.

Analysis - Another hop on the Daenerys lynch, doesn't provide more insight about the vote other than he's waiting for Daenerys to speak up. Hasn't changed his vote yet.

Daenerys: Votes Sandor then Ser Rodrik


I'm back.

People voting for no reason, trains exploding in the station.

Good job.

-vote Sandor


This logic is absolutely fine with me. As long as it doesn't backfire and end up with the mafia gunning for town to stop us from gunning for them because they're retarded and won't gun for cult leader.

-vote Ser Rodrik

TIME FOR MIRACLE WORK WIN TOWN GAME

Analysis - He's certainly convinced that Rodrik is mafia and not connected to the Cult.

Stannis: Votes for Ser Rodrik then Sandor


Judging by how the role blocker has been playing this game, I'd say that he is not town-aligned. I mean everyone finds me scummy, yet I haven't been roleblocked, neither were any of the lurkers. So I think that Ser Rodrik is probably a Consort. The bigger question remains though, who's a bigger threat? If we take out the mafia I think they will start gunning for the cult, because they will lose otherwise. So I think the mafia members are a better choice.

-vote Ser Rodrik

(then votes for Sandor without much explanation)

Analysis - Overall I haven't actually been too suspicious of Stannis. The change of vote does seem like a 'Me too!' vote, possibly because he thought that train was stronger.

Robb: Votes for Sandor, then Ser Rodrik, then Sandor again


I'm inclined to believe Sandor, as his blocks seem believable.
However, N4 Catelyn... seems like a thing a... culted escort would do.

-vote Sandor


*facepalm*
We will agree never to speak of this again.

-vote Ser Rodrik


Well, I see that no one is lynching Ser Rodrik.

Right now, however, I see no one else to possibly be the Cult Leader, except MAYBE Lord Varys, but he is more likely to be Richard the Flayer.
Dracula is our number 1 priority, and Sandor has basically given himself up...

-vote Sandor

Analysis - Gets confused about names. Thinks Rodrik is an Escort, but culted. More importantly, he thinks that Sandor has given himself up as Dracula (???) and thinks that NO ONE else could be Dracula when we have so many citizen claims and unclaimed people. Also, despite the fact he believes Rodrik is a culted Escort, he counter-claims him and doesn't change his vote. Alarm bells ringing, folks.

Ser Ilyn: Votes for Sandor


Oberyn Im still pretty sure youre scum but youre not the cult leader (I think) so I guess you can wait. Anyway it would be pointless since no one believes me.

Unvote Oberyn

Ser Rodrik is obviously scum. I am guessing hes just a really derp consort who thought he might be able to trick a really derp town into thinking hes an escort but I am also confident hes not the cult leader.

I have no idea what Sandor is. He hasnt claimed serf yet so Im inclined to believe that he is either a stupid serf or scum so he is the wiser lynch since he could be the cult leader.

Vote Sandor

Analysis - Plenty of material to work with here. First, he think he's voted Oberyn, when Sandor has been his only vote. He says Rodrik is obviously scum, but is much more interested in voting up someone who he readily admits is easily a stupid serf. I think Ser Ilyn is much more likely to be Dracula than Sandor.

Aemon: Votes for Sandor


-vote Sandor

If he is cult then so is Daenerys, if he isn't then Oberyn is probably cult for starting this train. Only one way to find out!

Analysis - Hasn't really contributed much to today, or much in any day! This logic is confusing me too.

Ser Jorah:

My votes are explained in posts 178, 198, 199, 240

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This was just a cursory analysis.

[Ser Jorah]

Please explain to me how you calculated that?
If Rodrik flips culted, then cult get -1 +1 tonight = same tomorrow.
If Rodrik flips unculted consort, then cult get +1 tonight and will only need 2 non cult to join a lynch to hammer.

I don't see any win there unless you are cult.

When I say 'win', I don't mean overall win - I just mean that the Town benefits because a) we've killed a scum and b) if he was a culted Escort, then it sucks we've lost a power role but it means there's less places for fake claimers to hide.

[Petyr]

I still think Daenery is probably a GF/cult leader but whatevs. I'd rather kill any scum that none.

Go go gadget vote Ser Rodrik