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Forum Mafia GM
May 7th, 2012, 06:01 PM
The ever dwindling number of survivors of Adelaide were awoken early in the morning to the sound of a commotion in the streets.

A riderless carriage, drawn by two horses who had the fear of God put into them, tore through the streets in an aimless fashion. But what truly drew the eye was the bloodied bear trap that was chained to the rear axle of the carriage. After a long hour of coordinated action, the remaining guards managed to stop the carriage, albeit ungracefully, as both horses had to be sentenced to death as they would not calm. One brave guard stepped towards the carriage's door, casting a worried glance back towards his peers. By now, they knew what to expect. The man was not disappointed in that regard. Within the carriage, Renly's head was found resting upon the blood-stained seat nestled within. His face contorted in anguish, even the bravest amongst the guard did not dare imagine the fate that had befallen him. One thing they did know, however, was that the legendary Midnight Rider was very much dead.

He left a last will:

Hiya kiddos,

Motorcycle driver here. I much prefer to transport my passengers around via motorcycle than some old fashioned carriage! Who noticed my roleclaim from my first post in D1?

N1 switched Janos with Daernys
N2 switched Janos with Bronn
N3 switched Janos with Caitlyn

My reasoning for this was establishing one person I would for sure switch every night to encourage a lookout to observe Janos at night to see myself and potentially a member of the mafia/interceptor. Alternatively if there is no lookout, I would try to WIFOM protect myself from an interceptor by hinting that there is a lookout on Janos. If you're reading this... my plan probably didn't work. In any case... at this point, a mislynch is better than no lynch. You've got to start lynching scum if town wants to win.

I'd suggest Daernys, and Sandor for being scummy as fuck.

glhf,
xoxo
Renly

Whilst attempting to chase down the runaway carriage, other oddities were discovered, the first among them being Theon who laid dead a pool of his own blood not far from his home. His body had been defiled, impaled by a variety of wooden stakes that, at a best guess, were freshly carved by Theon himself with the dull dagger which lay discarded by his side. No man could ever hope to step into the minds of an undead heretic, but at their best guess, they wagered this was some sort of twisted irony. Moving past the stakes, it was noted that his throat had been torn open, but like those before them, were oddly clean of blood. Upon searching his house, it was discovered that there was absolutely nothing remarkable about Theon, he was a simple Serf.

One last body was found in one of the back alleys leading out of Cathedral Square, and it's sight was small relief to those who had already seen so many good men dead that morning. What remained of the man named Jaime had been slashed to ribbons, his body bruised and torn by a seemingly prolonged struggle with an unknown assailant. What could be determined from his corpse, however, was that the man was no longer human. Upon removing the tattered remains of his shirt, what lay beneath could only be described as 'evil'. Bulbous veins rippled through the man's torso and arms, black as night, and those that had been severed by the blade had long since drained their contents upon the man's skin, leaving only a sinisterly foul smell behind. Upon his back, half-stained with the blackened blood of it's owner, was a pentagram seared onto the flesh seemingly recently, as the wound was still healing. Whatever fate had befallen this man, clearly dark magics had been worked on him before it had occurred, and those present counted their blessings that he was dead. Remarkably, upon searching the man's house, they found nothing of note. They concluded that he had been converted into something sinister by Count Dracula, and had originally been a Serf.


Role List:


Richard The Flayer
Nosferatu Devout
Nosferatu Devout
Nosferatu Devout
Anya Nighthawk
Child of the Stars
Child of the Stars
Warlock (Witch)
Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
Cursed
Cursed
Bishop(Mason Enforcer)
Paladin(Mason "Clubber")
Dr. Adolf von Helsing (Vigilante)
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf


Possible Random Roles:
Vampires(Nosferatu Devout/Child of the Stars): Trapper(Inteceptor), Illusionist(Disguiser), Bloodmage(Grave Robber), Seductress/Playboy(Consort), Butcher(Janitor), Diabolist(Framer), Larcenist(Consigliere)
Town: Sergeant (Sheriff), Spy (Investigator), Snoop (Detective), Carriage Driver (Bus Driver), Sentinel (Lookout), Apothecary (Doctor), Mortician (Coroner), Gaelor (Jailor), Schizophreniac (Veteran), Fiddler (Escort), Tinkerer (Gunsmith), Blacksmith (Armorsmith)
Cursed: Pupil (Student), Fool (Jester), Nemesis (Executioner), Necrophiliac (Amnesiac), Phantom (Ghost), Coward (Survivor)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________________________
Graveyard:
Arya (Serf) - Found brutalized in her home, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Syrio (Nemesis) - Found slumped over the body of his deceased children, drained of blood. (Night 1)
Eddard (Butcher) - Found eviscerated and tortured in the Cathedral Square, tied to a table. (Night 2)
Ser Berristan (Sergeant) - Found dead in Cathedral Square, drained of blood. (Night 2)
Renly (Carriage Driver) - His head was found within his blood stained carriage, a bear trap chained to it's rear axle. (Night 3)
Theon (Serf) - Found dead outside his home, impaled with a multitude of sharpened stakes, his throat torn. (Night 3)
Jaime (Serf) - Found dead in an alley, twisted by black magic and cut to shreds. (Night 3)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________________________

The day will end at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=St+Louis+Missouri+8%3A00+pm%2C+Sunday+May+09+20 12.

You require 14 votes to lynch. Once a hammer vote has been cast, it cannot be undone.

Palpatine
May 7th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Smited Ser Loras, also was taken for a midnight joy ride

Khal Drogo
May 7th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Welp. Another day, another power role dead.

Joffrey
May 7th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Catelyn, it looks like Jaime was smited. Or am I incorrect with that interpretation?

I'm annoyed right now. I could be passing on good information to the jailer via the code but NOOOOOoooooOOO...

I will post my information.

Do you guys really want me to reveal my target and the possible roles?

Robb
May 7th, 2012, 06:12 PM
I will miss your beautiful poems, Renly.

What is "black magic"?

Warlock with a gun? lol

Joffrey
May 7th, 2012, 06:12 PM
I will tell you the person I checked. I checked Robb.

Do you want his possible roles?

Robb
May 7th, 2012, 06:19 PM
I know my own possible roles, thank you very much.

Joffrey
May 7th, 2012, 06:19 PM
I know my own possible roles, thank you very much.

That's a relief

Palpatine
May 7th, 2012, 06:25 PM
I'm confused by the deaths, jaime was not smited unless there is a second carriage driver around.

Ser Ilyn
May 7th, 2012, 06:25 PM
OK idiots lets actually get something done today for once.

Vote Oberyn

Yesterday I said I thought he was scum and he only agreed with my earlier post. Ive got a bad feeling about this guy and that only made me more confident.

Cersei
May 7th, 2012, 06:28 PM
It's possible that one was killed by the vigilante or jailer. Or maybe the warlock controlled one of the coven leaders. That would be bad.

I'm not surprised that Jaime was culted. He was pretty much confirmed town thanks to the executioner. I assume that he was the first night recruit, since the bishop didn't administer to him and it's useful to have a confirmed town player on the team.

Cersei
May 7th, 2012, 06:29 PM
Does a warlock controlling a coven leader cause an additional kill?

Forum Mafia GM
May 7th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Does a warlock controlling a coven leader cause an additional kill?
What...?

Viserys
May 7th, 2012, 06:32 PM
the third kill intrigues me

Cersei
May 7th, 2012, 06:34 PM
I didn't think it was that odd a question because I have seen it come up before on Q&A days.

Mafia sends someone to kill, godfather/mafioso gets witch controlled and kills a second player.

But I take it the answer is no then. Good.

Cersei
May 7th, 2012, 06:39 PM
Here's an example:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/4910-FAQ


184- Is it possible for the Mafia to have 2 KPN if a Mafioso (not the one selected to do the killing for the night) is witched onto another player?
Yes, it is possible that with the witches help that the KPN is increased in this manner.

Viserys
May 7th, 2012, 06:41 PM
-vote ser jorah

The only real lead we have happened on day 2, I suggest we go with it. I think it was double wifom.

Day 2 Post 136:



Sir Varys, I invite you to a kitty duel.

On a side note I haven't read or watched Game of Throne so I'm finding it very difficult to keep up with these names. They're all starting to blend together a bit. I will need to sit down tonight and make some proper notes because I think I've gotten quite a few people confused with each other.

Hence the gandalf red riding hood cat avatar. I hope it's noticeable.
This.
Share your notes with me bro, I won't have time to write any good times.
:3

Day 2 Post 138:

Okay I'll share them with you in chat tonight.

Viserys
May 7th, 2012, 06:45 PM
question for catelyn: Were you witched?
question for fm game master: does it give you a notification if you are witched?

Cersei
May 7th, 2012, 06:46 PM
I'm interested in hearing an investigation result from Bronn first and foremost. Will have to think about Joffrey's result on Robb. I'm curious but it might be harmful.

If Robb came up in the Serf pairing, I think you should just reveal it.


question for fm game master: does it give you a notification if you are witched?
Read the rolecard...

Lord Varys
May 7th, 2012, 08:20 PM
This is what I got from the RP...
Renly - Killed by trapper
Theon - Night Kill
Jamie - Night Kill

However, both Theon and Jamies death were quite grizzly, more so then previous Children of the Stars kills.

Ser Loras
May 7th, 2012, 08:34 PM
This is what I got from the RP...
Renly - Killed by trapper
Theon - Night Kill
Jamie - Night Kill

However, both Theon and Jamies death were quite grizzly, more so then previous Children of the Stars kills.

Oh, well that seems obvious now.
Not much to say about the night, the masons chose a wrong smite target.
Game Master insulted me in the PM Q_Q

Jon
May 7th, 2012, 08:45 PM
Lord Varys seems to be the only one around here with the great gift of literacy. Just checking in, nothing to really say except that I am now more sure than ever that Samwell is not a Serf. He may be far more dangerous than anyone else in the game if I'm right.

Tywin
May 7th, 2012, 08:52 PM
Oh, well that seems obvious now.
Not much to say about the night, the masons chose a wrong smite target.
Game Master insulted me in the PM Q_Q

Is that a PR claim...

While waiting for PR information is not the way to win a game, it would be far more prudent to gather all information before making deductions.

Ser Ilyn
May 7th, 2012, 08:57 PM
This is what I got from the RP...
Renly - Killed by trapper
Theon - Night Kill
Jamie - Night Kill

However, both Theon and Jamies death were quite grizzly, more so then previous Children of the Stars kills.

Derp. I wish I could use this as evidence that youre all idiots but I forgot about the interceptor too.

Ser Jorah would be stupid to draw attention to himself like that. I doubt its WIFOM but is in fact more trolling (which I dont consider a scumtell worth acting on on its own). To me Oberyn is a far better lynch and Bronn has still yet to clear his name imo.

Lord Varys
May 7th, 2012, 08:58 PM
@Viserys: I wouldn't say that those 2 posts were the only "real leads" of D2. However, I do have my eye on Ser Jorah for other reasons.

@Ser Jorah:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Qogq3ys5M8M/S4vpa8Oms-I/AAAAAAAAC1E/DAU0QMAQGy4/catwink.jpg

Lord Varys
May 7th, 2012, 09:00 PM
and yeah, it's kinda wierd how last game everyone was panicking over the trapper, but this game, he was practicaly forgoten.

Tyrion
May 7th, 2012, 09:01 PM
I am climbing out of the lurker hole. The lead on Loras seems very weak. I'm not getting a lot of scum vibes off of him. Then again I'm not getting town vibes either. I'm surprised Ilyn voted without anyone commenting on it. I don't have any leads. Didn't want to lurk you see.

Petyr
May 7th, 2012, 09:08 PM
Lord Varys seems to be the only one around here with the great gift of literacy. Just checking in, nothing to really say except that I am now more sure than ever that Samwell is not a Serf. He may be far more dangerous than anyone else in the game if I'm right.

What's making you say that?

Jon
May 7th, 2012, 09:30 PM
What's making you say that?
A few things. But I'm not really sure that he's scum at this point, he might be neutral or stupid. Or both.

Jon
May 7th, 2012, 10:25 PM
By the way, "twisted by black magic" in the death description just means that he was culted, and says nothing about his death, if I'm reading this right.

Bronn
May 7th, 2012, 10:55 PM
I got the result I was expecting from this person but I'm not sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

Oberyn
May 7th, 2012, 11:31 PM
Nothing happened to me last night that I'm aware of. No funhouse.



Smited Ser Loras, also was taken for a midnight joy ride
Would you be willing to tell us who was enforced? I don't see any downside and it would be nice to know what PR I can trust today to be not culted.


I'm annoyed right now. I could be passing on good information to the jailer via the code but NOOOOOoooooOOO...
Since you revealed the jailor yesterday, cult must have their eyes on him, 2 easy night kills and infinite roleblocks. I wouldn't want you to have a code with a possibly culted jailor.


Do you guys really want me to reveal my target and the possible roles?
Only the possible roles, not the name, then we can decide as a group if we want to pursue that information and expose another role for the cult.


I checked Robb.
You moron...


OK idiots lets actually get something done today for once.

Vote Oberyn

Yesterday I said I thought he was scum and he only agreed with my earlier post. Ive got a bad feeling about this guy and that only made me more confident.
mind explaining why? What do you want me to say? Yesterday I pursued what I thought was the best lynch. Jailor was withholding his reveal code and I didn't know about Nightcare. The Jailor told me to trust Joffrey and I had told the jailor that I found Ser Davos scummy day 2, so he knew I had my eye on him.


question for catelyn: Were you witched?
question for fm game master: does it give you a notification if you are witched?
Do you read anything? Catelyn told you who was smited. She wouldn't know if she was witched.
And the witch question is obviously in the rolecards.


I got the result I was expecting from this person but I'm not sure if that is a good or a bad thing.
I don't trust you, you still haven't proven your role. You sound like the Cult Leader looking to find an invest and use his findings. Joffrey is a confirmed invest/consig. You are not. I want your results.

Oberyn
May 7th, 2012, 11:42 PM
Actually.. I never believed your claim from day 2 and now you are probably waiting to hear from Joffrey in some secret code you developed to get his results so you can say it first.

-Vote Bronn

Convince me that you are not the Cult Leader. Your first 2 days of investigations were a bunch of BS, Yoren hasn't even given you a name of who you visited.

Aemon
May 7th, 2012, 11:46 PM
I agree.
Bronn you need to drop someones possible roles so they can confirm. You have had 3 nights to check so there must be something.

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 12:57 AM
And I better not see see Joffrey post anything until Bronn has answered.

Aemon
May 8th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Joffrey has already posted several posts. Bronn better not say his target was Robb (same as joffrey claims to have checked)

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 01:05 AM
I know he has, but his posts seem generic enough that I don't think there is any codes in them yet. Still, if his target was Robb, this train will take off like a bullet train.

Note to town: make sure you don't lynch him too early, even though it's already been 7 hours, there is still much to talk about.

Aemon
May 8th, 2012, 01:26 AM
I know he has, but his posts seem generic enough that I don't think there is any codes in them yet. Still, if his target was Robb, this train will take off like a bullet train.

Note to town: make sure you don't lynch him too early, even though it's already been 7 hours, there is still much to talk about.

So you are not town then, because you already voted to lynch him? Oh boy my dragons will have so much work to do when they grow up. I'm afraid they might get burned out...

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 01:52 AM
-_- You know that I mean hammer.. why must you waste my time with stupidities like this? You're looking too close at the exact wording, you're only going to find town who don't give a second thought before pressing the reply button. And WHY must you keep bringing up the cryptic Dragons in your posts? I'd question you, but I want to keep the focus on Bronn for now so I'll have to deal with you later.

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 01:56 AM
I'm off to bed. I hope a few questions will be answered when I get back on in the morning.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 02:04 AM
-_- You know that I mean hammer.. why must you waste my time with stupidities like this? You're looking too close at the exact wording, you're only going to find town who don't give a second thought before pressing the reply button. And WHY must you keep bringing up the cryptic Dragons in your posts? I'd question you, but I want to keep the focus on Bronn for now so I'll have to deal with you later.
Total conspiracy theory check: dragons are used in a very specific manner in certain posts, planned out ahead of time in a night chat. It's a disguiser check

Aemon
May 8th, 2012, 02:09 AM
Total conspiracy theory check: dragons are used in a very specific manner in certain posts, planned out ahead of time in a night chat. It's a disguiser check

If the progress of my dragons suddenly stops, you will know that I have been disguised. And if someone tries to fake it it will be obvious, because only a true Targaryen knows the secrets of the dragons.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 06:10 AM
Do you read anything? Catelyn told you who was smited. She wouldn't know if she was witched.
And the witch question is obviously in the rolecards.

Who are you trying to fool, Oberyn? Did YOU read the rolecards yourself?


Lord Varys seems to be the only one around here with the great gift of literacy.
This seems to be code. Because it's definitely not the truth.


and yeah, it's kinda wierd how last game everyone was panicking over the trapper, but this game, he was practicaly forgoten.


Your target is a patron of its own kind of art. It could be a Blacksmith (Armorsmith), a Tinkerer (Gunsmith), an Illusionist (Disguiser), or a Bloodmage (Graverobber).
This maybe? Though the comment could have been sarcasm I guess.

As for the interceptor... yeah, didn't think about that at first. Quite silly, but then again it could've been expected. Renly asked for it by driving Janos 3 nights in a row. Being predictable with bus drives is a bad idea if there's a spree killer of sorts on the loose.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 06:21 AM
Bronn, please give us your investigation result. We need to know if you're legit. I assume you didn't check Joffrey?

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 08:18 AM
To answer previous questions, I was not witched. Also I'd rather the cult not know what's going through my bishop's mind, so I'll keep any future eucharists quiet unless it becomes relevant.
That said, my smite has been confirmed, barring loras being in a cult/mafia with me. And if that was the case, someone else should've claimed smited.

I'd also say it's likely my house was the one trapped by the interceptor. If I read the role cards right he only kills the first visitor, not the owner. Too bad no one else happened upon my humble abode :(

Lord Varys
May 8th, 2012, 08:22 AM
A few things. But I'm not really sure that he's scum at this point, he might be neutral or stupid. Or both.
How does interpreting the RP = being stupid?

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 08:28 AM
How does interpreting the RP = being stupid?
What? About Samwell, every way he acts is like how a really really bad scum or a completely clueless citizen would act. I personally think he's a neutral playing us all. Maybe an amnesiac?

Bronn
May 8th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Well I don't mind revealing these results because I suspected Ser Gregor of being a cult leader and that was the result I got. Citizen / gf / cult leader / jester.

No point lynching if the masons can kill or clear him.

Bronn
May 8th, 2012, 08:36 AM
What? About Samwell, every way he acts is like how a really really bad scum or a completely clueless citizen would act. I personally think he's a neutral playing us all. Maybe an amnesiac?

I think he's a citizen because Yoren hinted I visited him by saying he would reveal who my mentor is if Samwell flipped jester.

Forum Mafia GM
May 8th, 2012, 08:42 AM
Well I don't mind revealing these results because I suspected Ser Gregor of being a cult leader and that was the result I got. Citizen / gf / cult leader / jester.

No point lynching if the masons can kill or clear him.

I know you didn't ask but I'll give you a freebie this once.




You may -smite a foe, ending their cursed life if they are affected with Dracula's personal curse.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 08:43 AM
I know you didn't ask but I'll give you a freebie this once.

aka my night 1 smite was completely useless :D

Melisandre
May 8th, 2012, 09:24 AM
The likelihood of two investigators in this political arena is much too miniscule. The darkness beckons and has drawn out the Consigliere to do battle with the Town's private eye. One must be destroyed and it is likely the fake king.

Our numbers dwindle in this Game of Thrones and our enemies grow stronger. To repel them, we must be vigilant. Ser Ilyn, Ser Gregor, Tywin Lannister, the bastard Jon Snow, the ghost of Sandor, the Godfatherings of Littlefinger, the gun-toting Khal Drogo, and failure of serfdom--young Samwell--must all be given a closer look.

Be wary. The night brings dark tidings.

Ser Loras
May 8th, 2012, 09:28 AM
Is that a PR claim...

While waiting for PR information is not the way to win a game, it would be far more prudent to gather all information before making deductions.

One can only speculate what I mean before I reveal my true form... DIABLO.
No, I'm not Diablo, that was WIFOM. I'm part of Adelaide.
One can only speculate what Town role I am...

Yoren
May 8th, 2012, 10:00 AM
I think he's a citizen because Yoren hinted I visited him by saying he would reveal who my mentor is if Samwell flipped jester.

No that wasn't a hint. I was saying, if samwell was jester the 2 neutrals would already be dead, so it would be safe to assume you aren't student.

I don't know if I still believe you're student now...

Your night 1 target was Ser Rodrik

I have no other night results worth revealing yet

Sandor
May 8th, 2012, 10:22 AM
The likelihood of two investigators in this political arena is much too miniscule. The darkness beckons and has drawn out the Consigliere to do battle with the Town's private eye. One must be destroyed and it is likely the fake king.

Our numbers dwindle in this Game of Thrones and our enemies grow stronger. To repel them, we must be vigilant. Ser Ilyn, Ser Gregor, Tywin Lannister, the bastard Jon Snow, the ghost of Sandor, the Godfatherings of Littlefinger, the gun-toting Khal Drogo, and failure of serfdom--young Samwell--must all be given a closer look.

Be wary. The night brings dark tidings.

FUCKEN WITCH?! Should have shot Bronn the jester. Either fail Vigilante or culted, maybe blocked.

MY LAST TRY TO HELP THE STOOPID MASONS! SMITE LURKERS FOR FUCKS SAKE!

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 11:19 AM
-vote Jon

I want to get this party started.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 11:30 AM
-vote Jon

I want to get this party started.

Why?

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 11:41 AM
I think it's rather unfortunate that Bronn only finds serfs, because nobody is going to deny such a find even if it's false. Bronn, do you confirm that you visited Ser Rodrik night 1?

And I wonder who was jailed/bewitched last night.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Meh nevermind you can't confirm, you were witched night 1. I wonder why a warlock would force you to target Ser Rodrik. Seems random.

Plus we don't know if Yoren might be lying.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 11:54 AM
vote Yoren

All of his results are worth revealing. It doesn't sit easy with me that he reveals only his first night find after a few days and claims that the rest "isn't worth it." That way he can just claim finds on dead people for the days he skipped his witching action. Because nobody seems to be reporting that they're manipulated.

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 12:11 PM
-vote Jon

I want to get this party started.

I've found Jon to be scummy all game, and yesterday we had our tiff. Today, I live and Jon has backpedaled away from me.

I believe he is mafia, and I live because killing me would bring too much heat down on himself after others perused the previous days.

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 01:07 PM
I'm going to

-vote Melisandre

just cuz I have a feeling thats what they want

Melisandre
May 8th, 2012, 01:46 PM
I'm going to

-vote Melisandre

just cuz I have a feeling thats what they want

And just who are "they," Lord Stannis?

I have suspicions, but little evidence. And it doesn't seem like anyone else has any either, by the looks of it. Without a lynch to go off of, the darkness will grow and we shall remain unaware of our surroundings. You, also, gave no evidence.

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 01:54 PM
And just who are "they," Lord Stannis?

I have suspicions, but little evidence. And it doesn't seem like anyone else has any either, by the looks of it. Without a lynch to go off of, the darkness will grow and we shall remain unaware of our surroundings. You, also, gave no evidence.

they as in non-gender pronoun, instead of using "he" or "she" to describe you.

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 03:02 PM
Who are you trying to fool, Oberyn? Did YOU read the rolecards yourself?
Not sure what you mean.. unless you misunderstood me. I meant the answer to the witch question was in the rolecards.


Also I'd rather the cult not know what's going through my bishop's mind, so I'll keep any future eucharists quiet unless it becomes relevant.

...

I'd also say it's likely my house was the one trapped by the interceptor. If I read the role cards right he only kills the first visitor, not the owner. Too bad no one else happened upon my humble abode :(
Can you at least tell us if Joffrey was enforced? I thought Janos was the interceptors target. Based off his last will Janos was bus driven 3 times in a row.


The likelihood of two investigators in this political arena is much too miniscule. The darkness beckons and has drawn out the to do battle with the Town's private eye. One must be destroyed and it is likely the fake king.

Our numbers dwindle in this Game of Thrones and our enemies grow stronger. To repel them, we must be vigilant. Ser Ilyn, Ser Gregor, Tywin Lannister, the bastard Jon Snow, the ghost of Sandor, the Godfatherings of Littlefinger, the gun-toting Khal Drogo, and failure of serfdom--young Samwell--must all be given a closer look.
That looks like a coded post to give off investigation results...



Your night 1 target was Ser Rodrik

I have no other night results worth revealing yet
You are claiming PR... and not even trying to prove your role. I demand at least 1 other night result so we can prove you are town. Cult have their eye on you and withholding info sounds like you don't want the town to know your results at all.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]vote Yoren

All of his results are worth revealing. It doesn't sit easy with me that he reveals only his first night find after a few days and claims that the rest "isn't worth it." That way he can just claim finds on dead people for the days he skipped his witching action. Because nobody seems to be reporting that they're manipulated.
I approve, I also think Bronn and Yoren are connected some way. Any credibility on Yoren's part helps Bronn get credibility for his n1 investigation. So far, both their credibility is minimal.


Gotta go, be back later. I'll answer any questions directed at me in similar fashion. I'll also give my thoughts on what ever is posted while I'm away.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 03:14 PM
That looks like a coded post to give off investigation results...
Let's hope it was not a non-WIFOM stealth claim, or you just helped the cult in getting a weapon... Mark Melisandre as a possible smite/eucharist target please inquisitors.


Not sure what you mean.. unless you misunderstood me. I meant the answer to the witch question was in the rolecards.


Do you read anything? Catelyn told you who was smited. She wouldn't know if she was witched.
And the witch question is obviously in the rolecards.
I didn't didn't misunderstand anything. You told Viserys that she wouldn't know if she was witched, but she most definitely would. It's in the rolecard.


Warlock (Witch)
Description: You were born a psychic vampire, feeding off of emotions and thoughts instead of blood. Just like the sanguineous vampires, you may force your will upon the humans, but you may do so with a simple tap upon their mind instead of a blood plague. You wish to see the creation of a vampiric society, so you can feed more readily and forcefully.

Abilities:
* You may -force a townsperson -to visit a target, even if they arent typically capable of doing such an action.
* You may send a last will to me at any time by typing in the body -write "message"

Pertinent Rulings: Target will be informed they are witched.

Win Conditions: Ensure that Adelaide falls to the darkness.

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 03:19 PM
I didn't didn't misunderstand anything. You told Viserys that she wouldn't know if she was witched, but she most definitely would. It's in the rolecard.

Ah, now I see what you mean.

Allow me to rephrase it so you understand what I meant:

"Do you read anything? Catelyn told you who was smited. She wouldn't know [that information] if she was witched."

I missed a ,

I'm off. later.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 03:20 PM
Oh alright then. That does make sense :p

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Also I didn't get a pm about being witched.

Lord Varys
May 8th, 2012, 03:51 PM
What? About Samwell, every way he acts is like how a really really bad scum or a completely clueless citizen would act. I personally think he's a neutral playing us all. Maybe an amnesiac?Derp. Misread the orriginal post.

Viserys
May 8th, 2012, 04:04 PM
So it looks like we aren't going to lynch anyone again. This really sucks, I want to bring out the fucking pitchforks man, what the fuck guys?

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 04:09 PM
We do still have 26 hours, but I agree this day has been far too silent.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 04:13 PM
-vote Yoren

The results are worth revealing if it means that you build at least a little trust with the town.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 04:15 PM
I say we pile votes on Yoren until he spills the rest of his information. We really need everything we can get ASAP before all the PRs get culted or killed. The more information you hold back, the more valuable you are as a cult recruit. Because results can be twisted to suit their needs.

Daenerys
May 8th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Good 'Morrow All, I am Sorry For my Delay Today. I Was Roleblock Last Night So I Am Not Able to Provide the Precious Information I could have Provided.

Lord Varys
May 8th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Since Bronn is making his investigation claim, I think that it is best that Ser Gregor at very least confirms whether Bromm is correct.

Something which I would like to point out is that I am 90% sure Ser Gregor is Northstar. Northstar = Serial Lurker whenever he gets citizen. He was not lurking on D1 or 2, so this intrigues me a lot.

@FM Game master: I am not asking for a COM claim, I am just guessing. I am not breaking any rules.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Good 'Morrow All, I am Sorry For my Delay Today. I Was Roleblock Last Night So I Am Not Able to Provide the Precious Information I could have Provided.

Don't worry, nobody thought you were going to provide precious information to begin with.

Khal Drogo
May 8th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Viserys - King of Petoria
Khal Drogo - Duke of Petoria
Ser Rodrik - Bishop of Petoria
Ser Loras - Knight of Petoria
Samwell - Knight of Petoria
Robb - Knight of Petoria
Jon - Knight of Petoria
Syrio - Nemesis of Petoria
Petyr - Jester of Petoria

Your Duke of Petoria brings grand news!! I am selling silver armour at a discount! It will only cost you an arm OR a leg, would you rather lose your arm or your life?! Beware, the darkness consumes all, and with my silver armour protecting you, all vampires will cower in fear!
Doesn't work on Count Dracula

Ser Gregor
May 8th, 2012, 05:08 PM
Since Bronn is making his investigation claim, I think that it is best that Ser Gregor at very least confirms whether Bromm is correct.

Something which I would like to point out is that I am 90% sure Ser Gregor is Northstar. Northstar = Serial Lurker whenever he gets citizen. He was not lurking on D1 or 2, so this intrigues me a lot.

@FM Game master: I am not asking for a COM claim, I am just guessing. I am not breaking any rules.

Meta-more fool.

-vote stannis

I grow weary of your lack of game usefulness. I declare thee scum.

Ser Rodrik
May 8th, 2012, 05:12 PM
No that wasn't a hint. I was saying, if samwell was jester the 2 neutrals would already be dead, so it would be safe to assume you aren't student.

I don't know if I still believe you're student now...

Your night 1 target was Ser Rodrik

I have no other night results worth revealing yet

I was witched night one.

Ser Rodrik
May 8th, 2012, 05:15 PM
I was witched night one.

If Bronn can confirm visiting me or deny it, then that means Yoren must be a witch.

Bronn, what were your findings on night one?

Melisandre
May 8th, 2012, 05:18 PM
That looks like a coded post to give off investigation results...


I would have much easier ways of spreading information through code than actively producing a list such as that. Honestly, I have already spoken with the Lord of Light and he has agreed that scum are abound and that they should be punished.

For when I die you shall all see my results, though they have grown largely unsatisfying as of late. Smart followers will be able to discern my role, while others will flounder in curiosity and puzzlement. Direct your attentions to those who speak but do not speak.

-vote Petyr Baelish

Ser Rodrik
May 8th, 2012, 05:20 PM
I would have much easier ways of spreading information through code than actively producing a list such as that. Honestly, I have already spoken with the Lord of Light and he has agreed that scum are abound and that they should be punished.

For when I die you shall all see my results, though they have grown largely unsatisfying as of late. Smart followers will be able to discern my role, while others will flounder in curiosity and puzzlement. Direct your attentions to those who speak but do not speak.

-vote Petyr Baelish

Forgive me, but I do not quite follow.

All the years in Wintefell have numbed my brain.

Is this a third investigator claim?

Melisandre
May 8th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Is this a third investigator claim?

This is not a claim, merely a vote based on the deviousness of Littlefinger's activities as of late.

Janos
May 8th, 2012, 05:33 PM
Personal issues have kept me from posting yesterday, and I can't believe that the number of posts hasn't even reached 100 yet. The funny thing is, the days are progressing so slowly because of the lack of a town leader. And the lack of one means the usual town leaders are either killed, or they're scum. This is highly amusing. If COM names could be revealed, so many scum would be clinched for changing playstyles. So this anonymity is protecting scum more than usual this game lol.

I can confirm I was bussed last night. I was really hoping the carriage driver would not drive me again because surely, driving the same person three night in a row is an unwise decision in a game with an interceptor. I don't think either me or Catelyn was informed that the interceptor was planted at our house. At first, I thought it would have definitely been installed onto me, since getting driven two nights in a row is a dead giveaway for a third. However, it's also possible that the interceptor was at Catelyn, who claims as Paladin, and the interceptor might have been aiming to kill a protection role. The former is more likely, however.

I was not informed anything else happened to me, so unfortunately, I have no confirmation that someone might have seen the interceptor. The irony, too, is that because no one has spoken up, it is possible the interceptor might have been seen by a hidden consigliere or the like, and that tomorrow, we may very well have another Mafia death on our hands. Unlikely though.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 05:44 PM
My holy blade shall pierce the heart of darkness this night.

Also I have this strange gut feeling my bishop is about to get killed tonight. Such an act would bring holy retribution upon whomever was responsible.

Joffrey
May 8th, 2012, 06:00 PM
Is anyone interested in Robb's possible roles?

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Catelyn for convience's sake, who did you smite Night 2?

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Is anyone interested in Robb's possible roles?

Why not

Joffrey
May 8th, 2012, 06:04 PM
I'm going to ask for someone who I trust, like Catelyn, to say whether or not.

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 06:09 PM
I'm going to ask for someone who I trust, like Catelyn, to say whether or not.


You asked and I answered there's no need for you to be short with me

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Catelyn for convience's sake, who did you smite Night 2?

Never mind my hunch was wrong after all

Robb
May 8th, 2012, 06:29 PM
The absolute nothingness of this day sickens me. Have we all forgotten how to scumhunt? Or are all of the smart people scum...

I still think Joffrey is scummy. If you're going to claim investigator, why are you hiding possible roles? Do you need time to analyze my posts and come up with some?

I still question Cersei. Why do you claim bishop? Obviously not to get killed. Ladies and gentlemen, possible Dracula candidate.

Bronn is also VERY scummy. He has not been useful at all in day chat, he appears to be trying to confuse us.

Yoren is sooo scummy. He is trying to confuse us even more so than Bronn, claims a PR, a Neutral, and Witch.

Questionnaire of the Day (cant believe i have to do this on Day 4)

Who is the scummiest person in the game? Why?

What do you think about Joffrey's investigator claim?

What do you think about Bronn's investigator claim?

What do you think of Yoren?

Give us your well-thought out scumlist.

Joffrey
May 8th, 2012, 06:31 PM
I still think Joffrey is scummy. If you're going to claim investigator, why are you hiding possible roles? Do you need time to analyze my posts and come up with some?

It's almost like you're asking for it.

Escort/Consort/Veteran/Student

Robb
May 8th, 2012, 06:33 PM
It's almost like you're asking for it.

Escort/Consort/Veteran/Student

If you want us to believe you, you have to give us results, or you'll end up like Bronn.

Joffrey
May 8th, 2012, 06:34 PM
If you want us to believe you, you have to give us results, or you'll end up like Bronn.

...

Escort/Consort/Veteran/Student

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 06:36 PM
Questionnaire of the Day (cant believe i have to do this on Day 4)

Who is the scummiest person in the game? Why?

What do you think about Joffrey's investigator claim?

What do you think about Bronn's investigator claim?

What do you think of Yoren?

Give us your well-thought out scumlist.

Scummiest person is all of the lurkers who havent even posted today, people are bickering about Joffrey and Bronn when the majority of the evil guys are most likely the ones not even talking

Joffrey's claim, I am inclined to believe just because of his correct result. I take everything with a grain of salt though as he reminds me of someone in a previous FM game who claimed invest and was actually a consig.

Bronn's claim I don't believe he hasn't given us anything, whatsoever.

Yoren is playing his part the way he sees fit, he's trying to seem pro-town while flying some harsh accusations but none of this holds any substance when nothing happens.

Scumlist will be a bit

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 06:39 PM
This is not a claim, merely a vote based on the deviousness of Littlefinger's activities as of late.

I'm left to wonder whether you disagree with my findings, or you could be so bad as to step in to protect your teammate. For now I say Jon first, then you.

Is Robb being dense or is he saying he's not one of Joffrey's findings?

Ser Gregor
May 8th, 2012, 06:39 PM
Scummiest person is all of the lurkers who havent even posted today, people are bickering about Joffrey and Bronn when the majority of the evil guys are most likely the ones not even talking

Joffrey's claim, I am inclined to believe just because of his correct result. I take everything with a grain of salt though as he reminds me of someone in a previous FM game who claimed invest and was actually a consig.

Bronn's claim I don't believe he hasn't given us anything, whatsoever.

Yoren is playing his part the way he sees fit, he's trying to seem pro-town while flying some harsh accusations but none of this holds any substance when nothing happens.

Scumlist will be a bit
Translation: 50% of my posts are from today, day 4. BUT I AM NOT SCUM. PROMISE.

Robb
May 8th, 2012, 06:40 PM
...

Escort/Consort/Veteran/Student

I was responding to your first statement.

Joffrey
May 8th, 2012, 06:41 PM
I was responding to your first statement.

You replied to my reply of your first post.

Deny/Confirm that you are one of those roles?

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 06:47 PM
Translation: 50% of my posts are from today, day 4. BUT I AM NOT SCUM. PROMISE.

Like you are any better

Joffrey
May 8th, 2012, 06:50 PM
It only takes a few keystrokes to say "I am one of those roles" or "I am not one of those roles"

See? I took less than a minute and how long have you had?

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Like you are any better

Hm, yes. The "I am rubber" defense is always a great choice.

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 07:02 PM
Hm, yes. The "I am rubber" defense is always a great choice.

Honestly though, someone who trolls every post and then accuses me of posting no substance is hardly an insult

Khal Drogo
May 8th, 2012, 07:03 PM
Welp. This town is lazy.
-vote Tyrion
I'd rather have a lynch today than 7 people sitting around accusing each other while the other 20 of us watch you from the shadows. Kinda boring to be honest.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:05 PM
The absolute nothingness of this day sickens me. Have we all forgotten how to scumhunt? Or are all of the smart people scum...

I still think Joffrey is scummy. If you're going to claim investigator, why are you hiding possible roles? Do you need time to analyze my posts and come up with some?

I still question Cersei. Why do you claim bishop? Obviously not to get killed. Ladies and gentlemen, possible Dracula candidate.

Bronn is also VERY scummy. He has not been useful at all in day chat, he appears to be trying to confuse us.

Yoren is sooo scummy. He is trying to confuse us even more so than Bronn, claims a PR, a Neutral, and Witch.

Questionnaire of the Day (cant believe i have to do this on Day 4)

Who is the scummiest person in the game? Why?

What do you think about Joffrey's investigator claim?

What do you think about Bronn's investigator claim?

What do you think of Yoren?

Give us your well-thought out scumlist.
oh man I love this kind of stupid bullshit

The scummiest person in the game is Yoren right now, but Samwell comes in a close second, Petyr in third. Yoren is probably witch, Samwell a neutral or a scum (and one with a night action at that, possibly Fool even), Petyr either a scum or a silly/dickish serf.

Joffery's invest claim seems more legitimate than any others at the moment, and he's given a correct result. I think he's probably not a consig.

Bronn's claim seems more suspect just from his general demeanor. He's lying or a consig, in my opinion

Yoren is scum scum scum scum scum until he gives some real results and shows us why we shouldn't lynch him for being witch.

My scumlist stays with me, besides the three you've heard in this post.

I'd like to know what people think of me, but information is at a premium and it's a premium I don't feel like paying (that would be more information from me).

My vote stays to lynch ​Yoren.

Melisandre
May 8th, 2012, 07:09 PM
I'm left to wonder whether you disagree with my findings, or you could be so bad as to step in to protect your teammate. For now I say Jon first, then you.

Please, you insult me, Baelish.

Jon Snow is of no relation to me.

So far, Jon Snow has voted you once and you have turned all of your attention towards him. Now I have voted you and I am your "number two." You make it sound as if you are some sort of power role...when we both know you are not.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 07:10 PM
-vote Petyr
I'm interested in finding out what your role is.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Please, you insult me, Baelish.

Jon Snow is of no relation to me.

So far, Jon Snow has voted you once and you have turned all of your attention towards him. Now I have voted you and I am your "number two." You make it sound as if you are some sort of power role...when we both know you are not.
He is a power role, though. A mafia power role, but a power role nonetheless.

Lynch train on Petyr? Choo choo I'm the conductor bitch.

​-vote Petyr

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 07:16 PM
He is a power role, though. A mafia power role, but a power role nonetheless.

Lynch train on Petyr? Choo choo I'm the conductor bitch.

-vote Petyr

What happened to your lynch on Yoren? Is Melisandre you're consigliere?

Oh wait, that would be gamethrowing. Just blink it to me. I won't tell the hosts. Promise.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oberyn(1): Ser Ilyn
Ser Jorah(1): Viserys
Bronn(1): Oberyn
Jon(2): Petyr, Melisandre
Yoren(1): Cersei
Melisandre(1): Stannis
Stannis(1): Ser Gregor
Tyrion(1): Khal Drogo
Petyr(2): Catelyn, Jon
Went ahead and made a tally

Ser Gregor
May 8th, 2012, 07:18 PM
oh man I love this kind of stupid bullshit

The scummiest person in the game is Yoren right now, but Samwell comes in a close second, Petyr in third. Yoren is probably witch, Samwell a neutral or a scum (and one with a night action at that, possibly Fool even), Petyr either a scum or a silly/dickish serf.

Joffery's invest claim seems more legitimate than any others at the moment, and he's given a correct result. I think he's probably not a consig.

Bronn's claim seems more suspect just from his general demeanor. He's lying or a consig, in my opinion

Yoren is scum scum scum scum scum until he gives some real results and shows us why we shouldn't lynch him for being witch.

My scumlist stays with me, besides the three you've heard in this post.

I'd like to know what people think of me, but information is at a premium and it's a premium I don't feel like paying (that would be more information from me).

My vote stays to lynch ​Yoren.

So to be clear. With both of the mafamps and culvamps strong. You want to go after a believed neutral? What.

-vote jon

You have to be in one of those 3 factions. Or you are just really stupid.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:20 PM
What happened to your lynch on Yoren? Is Melisandre you're consigliere?

Oh wait, that would be gamethrowing. Just blink it to me. I won't tell the hosts. Promise.
Alright, here we go, I'm gonna blink the answer to you in morse code

..- .-. .- ..-. .- --. . -

Janos
May 8th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Okay. I am completely adamant about this whole thing with the two "investigators." It is Day 4. Joffrey still has not put any pressure on his doppleganger of his, contrary to what he has said before. He has "no fish to fry now," as his last one came out burnt. But he has made no further attempts at accusing anyone. Why? If no one thinks there's a second town investigator, then why are we still letting both Joffrey and Bronn roam free?


Well I don't mind revealing these results because I suspected Ser Gregor of being a cult leader and that was the result I got. Citizen / gf / cult leader / jester.

No point lynching if the masons can kill or clear him.

If this isn't suspicious, I don't know what is. I don't know why no one said anything when the FM Game Master blatantly tipped us off about the fallacy of all this. The Mason's smite can only kill the cult. It can't kill Mafia. And the point that you made about "the masons clearing him" is completely invalid if he's the godfather. This leads me to believe that Bronn is NOT the town investigator. He says this because he KNOWS the masons can't do anything to disprove that Ser Gregor is one of those stated. Ser Gregor could very well be the Godfather of Bronn's Mafia. Or, in fact, he doesn't even HAVE to be the Godfather. By stating he's one of those investigation results, cult won't bother recruiting him and if Joffrey's the town investigator, he's not going to bother checking him again. Mafia won't bother killing him either, as the likelihood of him being serf is overwhelming, not to mention they can't kill the Godfather at night. Bronn's successfully ensured Ser Gregor's safety in just a few words.

Why would you reveal a serf anyway? That's completely idiotic for a town investigator to do, as serfs are supposed to be bullet shields for town PRs (sorry serfs).

What makes all of this suspicious is, that Joffrey has not accused Bronn at all. Are they on the same team, perhaps? By that reasoning, Bronn doesn't even have to be an investigator at all. He could just as likely be some completely random Mafia role, as he claimed to have checked Eddard before.

Or the two of them could somehow have known that each other was the consigliere and is maintaining the "well I don't want to decrease the KPN for the town yet."

Did I hit bulls-eye? Now, whom out of the three do we want to lynch to see which way they flop.

I say, let’s lynch the “investigator” who outted the jailer (no one claimed jailed today?), just possibly outted ANOTHER town power role, and refuses to put pressure on Bronn. Even if he flips investigator, at this point, I will have no guilt doing it. Bronn will be dealt with shortly after.

-vote Joffrey

I know I have now placed a target over my head for Mafia to shoot at. However, I also know that I am making my position known to the lookout as well as the Mafia interceptor. If you wish to kill me, Mafia, you are more than welcome to run risk of getting killed by an opposing Mafia member or seen by the lookout. I'm sure at this point some town members will ask, what if the town lookout is culted? That presents a handicap to town, since then, the lookout will obviously not reveal whom Mafia is. But the Mafia will know themselves that they better take care if a culted lookout sees them, for a traitor will soon lurk in their shadows. Come at me, Mafia. Do it. I dare you.

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 07:33 PM
Alright, here we go, I'm gonna blink the answer to you in morse code

..- .-. .- ..-. .- --. . -

Clever. Still guilty, though.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:40 PM
Clever. Still guilty, though.
-. --- ..-

Seriously, there's no reason not to lynch you. The vote on Joffery is just retarded right now. Janos just put a target over his head for an interceptor and town power roles, and nobody else.

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 07:43 PM
-. --- ..-

Seriously, there's no reason not to lynch you. The vote on Joffery is just retarded right now. Janos just put a target over his head for an interceptor and town power roles, and nobody else.

I feel the same way about you. The difference, I fear, is that I don't have a team to protect me. Town is dwindling and now's the time for scum to come out of the woodwork for "accidental" mislynches.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:45 PM
I feel the same way about you. The difference, I fear, is that I don't have a team to protect me. Town is dwindling and now's the time for scum to come out of the woodwork for "accidental" mislynches.
If I had a team to protect me, I'd be back on the benches feeding them information. I have nothing to lose except my life, and that's not worth much if nobody trusts me. I'd rather get a scum lynched and be able to reveal some real info with the trust of town.

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 07:49 PM
If I had a team to protect me, I'd be back on the benches feeding them information. I have nothing to lose except my life, and that's not worth much if nobody trusts me. I'd rather get a scum lynched and be able to reveal some real info with the trust of town.

If you were not scum, then I would've died last night so that the mafia could frame heat on you today. That's how it works. The fact that I live tells me that you are either mafia that can't kill me without bringing heat on yourself, or a cult with no killing roles.

Janos
May 8th, 2012, 07:52 PM
The vote on Joffery is just retarded right now. Janos just put a target over his head for an interceptor and town power roles, and nobody else.

Please, tell me why. Tell me all the useful things he's done for town, and why you won't lynch someone so blatantly scummy. Don't forget. Theon accused Joffrey yesterday at the end, and some momentum had built up. Now look where Theon is now. And now, there's no one to push for his lynch? Coincidence much?

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:52 PM
If you were not scum, then I would've died last night so that the mafia could frame heat on you today. That's how it works. The fact that I live tells me that you are either mafia that can't kill me without bringing heat on yourself, or a cult with no killing roles.
Or, you decided to not kill you so you could bring heat on me for not killing you to bring heat on me.

Tywin
May 8th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Welp. This town is lazy.
-vote Tyrion
I'd rather have a lynch today than 7 people sitting around accusing each other while the other 20 of us watch you from the shadows. Kinda boring to be honest.

You just got on my scum list

You say you want to have a lynch and vote someone who probably has one of the least likely chances of being lynched.

I'll keep my eye on you, scum.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:54 PM
Please, tell me why. Tell me all the useful things he's done for town, and why you won't lynch someone so blatantly scummy. Don't forget. Theon accused Joffrey yesterday at the end, and some momentum had built up. Now look where Theon is now. And now, there's no one to push for his lynch? Coincidence much?
Theon died by Mafia to bring suspicion on Joffery because he killed Theon to clear himself by making look like the mafia killed Theon to bring heat on Joffery. Thus, Joffery is cleared.

Oh by the way, I agree with Tywin but won't be voting. All aboard the train to Petyr's house! Choo choo!

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 07:55 PM
EVERYBODY FREEZE! A huge scum slip has been dropped on this day.

I was witched night one.


no shit

I'm the inves. Night 1 I was witched

Rolelist indicates Witch cannot be random = only 1 witch = 1 of these 2 is positively lying.

Ser Rodrik didn't raise any objection to Bronn claiming to have been witched, I'm guessing that they are both cult. Yoren seems to be heavily involved with Bronn as well.

The fact that this somehow went unnoticed makes me believe people are trying to divert attention away from this. Now it's day 4, 1 cult died = Cult Leader has possibly 2 recruits.

My vote stands on Bronn. I'm looking for the Cult Leader.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Why would you reveal a serf anyway? That's completely idiotic for a town investigator to do, as serfs are supposed to be bullet shields for town PRs (sorry serfs).
It's actually not that simple in a setup like this. The cult is quite clearly the dominant force and eventually power roles are going to get consumed by them. If the PR's survive and all the serfs die, the cult has this game won hands down. If an investigative role gets culted, chances are that he will reveal fake results. So the longer he keeps his serf finds to himself, the more likely the town will never know about it. It also limits the number of people for the bishop to protect when serfs are out in the open, because the cult is much less likely to recruit them then. If one of the inquisitors dies, the serf results will help to decide new recruits. The only problem here is that coven leaders also come up as serfs. Once the coven leaders are dead, the serfs will be the most trustworthy people left alive. I already doubt the allegiance of every single PR claim out there except Catelyn.

At least dead town PRs can win with me and won't be trying to play the town with a hidden agenda.

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 07:57 PM
Or, you decided to not kill you so you could bring heat on me for not killing you to bring heat on me.

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

I think I'm right though.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 07:58 PM
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

I think I'm right though.
No you don't. You think that town will believe that you think you're right.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:02 PM
Just saying, I'd rather have this game end up being a search for Dracula among the serfs, where the cult has no powers to use at night, than having a cult with night kills, heals, jailings, roleblocks and all other sorts of night actions to thwart the inquisitors.

I honestly don't see an early dracula death happening if the paladin can't smite him. The covens are a lost cause who are mainly here to rack up kills to move the game towards the inevitable serfs+inquisitors vs. cultists standoff.

Robb
May 8th, 2012, 08:03 PM
*posting once GM approves code*

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 08:04 PM
No you don't. You think that town will believe that you think you're right.

I couldn't help but laugh at this. Just taking what I say and then adding a few layers of wifom to it isn't actually a contribution, it's just spamming. If you're going to attack me, do it. But don't fill the thread with useless posts amounting to "You thought I thought you thought I thought you thought I thought you wouldn't".

Just read Oberyn's post about the witching, and I'm going to change my vote to Bronn.

vote Bronn

If Bronn's lynched today though, I will resume my customary voting of Jon tomorrow until others get the picture.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 08:06 PM
Just saying, I'd rather have this game end up being a search for Dracula among the serfs, where the cult has no powers to use at night, than having a cult with night kills, heals, jailings, roleblocks and all other sorts of night actions to thwart the inquisitors.

I honestly don't see an early dracula death happening if the paladin can't smite him. The covens are a lost cause who are mainly here to rack up kills to move the game towards the inevitable serfs+inquisitors vs. cultists standoff.
Here's the plan: We lynch Petyr today, killing off a mafia member. Then, someone smites Yoren or Samwell at night, killing off a Cultist, since the wording of the Paladin makes it sound like Dracula can't be smote/smited/smeet (affected by his curse, not Dracula himself).

Oh hey by the way. Can Dracula be smote/smited/smelted?

Janos
May 8th, 2012, 08:11 PM
Theon died by Mafia to bring suspicion on Joffery because he killed Theon to clear himself by making look like the mafia killed Theon to bring heat on Joffery. Thus, Joffery is cleared.

How many Mafia do you think there are? One might very well have killed Theon to kill a town role and frame an opposing consigliere at the same time.

Cersei, I can see what you're saying. But then by that reasoning, what's stopping cult from recruiting all the serfs, let Mafia kill the power roles, and then backstab Mafia at the end?

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 08:12 PM
Here's the plan: We lynch Petyr today, killing off a mafia member. Then, someone smites Yoren or Samwell at night, killing off a Cultist, since the wording of the Paladin makes it sound like Dracula can't be smote/smited/smeet (affected by his curse, not Dracula himself).

Oh hey by the way. Can Dracula be smote/smited/smelted?

Why do you ignore Oberyn's post? And why do you think I'm mafia and not cult?

Tywin
May 8th, 2012, 08:13 PM
How many Mafia do you think there are? One might very well have killed Theon to kill a town role and frame an opposing consigliere at the same time.

Cersei, I can see what you're saying. But then by that reasoning, what's stopping cult from recruiting all the serfs, let Mafia kill the power roles, and then backstab Mafia at the end?

Nothing, that's why cult is OP

The whole witch situation is very confusing and seems to be our best lead for today barring slip-ups from potential scumspects

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 08:15 PM
How many Mafia do you think there are? One might very well have killed Theon to kill a town role and frame an opposing consigliere at the same time.

Cersei, I can see what you're saying. But then by that reasoning, what's stopping cult from recruiting all the serfs, let Mafia kill the power roles, and then backstab Mafia at the end?
The mafia need to work together for long enough to eliminate the Cult. Cult is more powerful than any force in the game. If they are trying to frame one another, then they're a little short-sighted.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 08:17 PM
If it'll make you happy, -vote Bronn

inb4 HURR U FELL INTO OUR TARP

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:23 PM
Smote or smitten would be correct, according to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/smite

About the Ser Rodrik-Yoren-Bronn threesome, both Ser Rodrik and Bronn claim to be witched night 1 and Yoren claims Bronn visited Ser Rodrik, and that Ser Rodrik is thus a serf (and should be left off the hook). They can't both be witched, so one of them is lying. I think it's fairly likely that there's either a connection between Bronn and Yoren or between Yoren and Ser Rodrik. I think pressuring the man in the middle would be the most informative. Pushing one of the two on either end would tell us less.

If Yoren is the witch, then Bronn might be telling the truth and Ser Rodrik might not be a serf at all. Yoren might also be a cultist who is creating an alibi for his cult leader... If Yoren is an unculted detective or lookout, then Bronn is likely lying about being witched.


Cersei, I can see what you're saying. But then by that reasoning, what's stopping cult from recruiting all the serfs, let Mafia kill the power roles, and then backstab Mafia at the end?
This is possible, but it's not very likely. The cult wants power roles to keep the edge over inquisitors and they want to recruit coven members to direct their kills once the coven leaders are dead.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:24 PM
Lynching the witch is not a bad idea by the way, because she can essentially increase the votes for all three scum factions by 1 and causes a lot of damage if she ever gets culted. In particular, if the bishop dies, she will make sure that Catelyn NEVER GETS A NEW BISHOP.

If anything, we should hunt her and burn her first.

Jon
May 8th, 2012, 08:30 PM
Can we stop listening to the one person who decides to derail the metaphorical lunch cart train and fling us onto another target.

Let's lynch Bronn he might be cult leader or something!

NO LET'S GET WITCH SHUT UP

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:34 PM
Can we stop listening to the one person who decides to derail the metaphorical lunch cart train and fling us onto another target.

Let's lynch Bronn he might be cult leader or something!

NO LET'S GET WITCH SHUT UP

What makes you think that Ser Rodrik is telling the truth, and that Bronn is not? Did Ser Rodrik even claim to be witched on day 2? What if both Yoren and Ser Rodrik are the bad guys and Bronn is not?

I really doubt that Bronn would claim being bewitched as the witch on day 1, while he did go out and manipulate Ser Rodrik. That would be really dumb.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Actually, I need to go back to day 2 and see if Rodrik said anything. Maybe Bronn claimed witched because his target said nothing, so he thought he controlled scum and that it was safe.

Janos
May 8th, 2012, 08:39 PM
-unvote Joffrey
-vote Bronn

I don't care which one of them gets lynched, but one of them needs to be. Looks like you get to live another day, Joffrey. As for the whole witching incidence, Ser Rodrik claimed witched after Bronn did, though, right? Lol. I will laugh so hard if Ser Rodrik is Mafia thinking, "I can get away with a no lynch EZ by claiming to be witched, because there's always a drug dealer, right?"

Read: There is no drug dealer in this setup.

Actually, maybe we ought to lynch Ser Rodrik. Why didn't he counterclaim Bronn the moment Bronn said he was witched? On the same team? Lol.

Lord Varys
May 8th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Ser Gregor, Brann claims that you are citizen/GF/Cult Leader(/Jester?). Is this true?

Ser Loras
May 8th, 2012, 08:43 PM
-vote Bronn
All in all, people start mass posting when I'm away. Just great.
We must do something today, or the Evil shall prevail tomorrow (or any other day)!

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Ser Gregor, Brann claims that you are citizen/GF/Cult Leader(/Jester?). Is this true?

Yoren had 3 days to find someone that is a cit, there is still 8 cits, 2 GFs and the Cult Leader out there. With all the PR claims, it wouldn't be too hard to guess that Ser Gregor is in the cit category.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:47 PM
Well, this is interesting.

This is the first and only post Ser Rodrik made after Bronn's claim of being investigator and witched on night 1.


-unvote Bronn

He said nothing else after that. And today he suddenly claims witched...

Another possible scenario:
Bronn is invest/consig, Yoren is detective/witch and Ser Rodrik is a jester. His responses to me yesterday certainly were so scummy it was almost comical.

I suggest someone shoots Rodrik tonight. Preferably the jailer (Ser Davos), because he's out in the open.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:48 PM
Yoren had 3 days to find someone that is a cit, there is still 8 cits, 2 GFs and the Cult Leader out there. With all the PR claims, it wouldn't be too hard to guess that Ser Gregor is in the cit category.

You mean Bronn?

Ser Ilyn
May 8th, 2012, 08:51 PM
I think Oberyn is just as strong of a lynch if not stronger but I guess Bronn is the next best alternative and the only shot we have of actually accomplishing something for once.

Unvote Oberyn
Vote Bronn

You are all too scared of the jester. After last game anyone can WIFOM jester and people will be afraid of them so just ignore it and go with what you think.

Samwell
May 8th, 2012, 08:53 PM
Hey guy's if you don't believe I'm a Serf I honestly don't give a fuck. But let's get onto Jon he started the vote on me for claiming Serf he say's that there is no way I can be citizen.
Jon anwser my questions.
How would you know I'm not a Citizen?
Why did you choose to put me up for claiming Serf?
Why single me out when other people have made claims?
Just because I claim Serf I don't understand why you start a lynch on me explain yourself please.



While I do think Joffrey/Davos are both incredibly retarded, I can't say for sure whether Joffrey is scum if the thing he says about being able to see the title of the jail chat if you were jailed in the FM Run 1 to be true or not. If the thing he is saying about the code phrase is true, then I can partially understand his reluctance to confirm Davos. At this point they are both on possible scum list, but there isn't a lot more to glean on that one. On another note, because we have two claimed investigators (Joffrey and Bronn) I'm interested to see what their results were (depending on the risk levels of the release of that info). You don't have anything to lose, unless your targets have a high probability of being a powerful PR.

Anyway, Samwell/Daenerys seem to be defending each other for some reason, not sure why. Samwell is trolling so much that if he is a serf, he's completely useless to this time at a) taking a bullet and b) scumhunting. He's distracting the town so much that it might even help us to lynch him if he's a Fool.

I have not defended Daenerys once so WTF are you on about. I really am Serf there is no need to lynch me because I claim Serf. Why would Mafia waste a kill on a Serf. Also I'm good at scum hunting so I could actualy find out if I read all the post's. I will start reading the post's more if they become more serious rather they just random talking. From now on ill stop "Troll" ill help help town and find the scum right now I think we should question Jon. Also he seems to vote people alot let's do the same to him

Vote Jon

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Find me out the front, puffin' on a bud
Man, fuck these white cunts ay!
I'm thinkin of getting mugged
Talkin shit, getting bashed cause I'm tipsy
Gotta call me uncle Big Merv to come get me
You can find me out the front, fighting every cunt
Off my head and half drunk
I lit the cigarette butts
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But please white fella spare a dollar for the bus

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Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 08:53 PM
I'm not scared of a jester, I just think we should use night kills on scummy targets early rather than saving them for later so the cult can get their hands on them. And if Rodrik is a coven leader/cult leader, the jail execution pierces immunity.

Anyway, vote Bronn

Ser Gregor
May 8th, 2012, 08:54 PM
I don't understand why you want to lynch Bronn.

Samwell
May 8th, 2012, 08:54 PM
So everyone is going for this guy.
Ill vote him for now Vote Bronn

Samwell
May 8th, 2012, 08:55 PM
If Bronn is evil I might have trust in Jon but I will need anwsers from him and Ser Gregor is trying to defend Bronn if he is evil I think Ser Gregor might be

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 08:56 PM
You mean Bronn?
No, I mean Yoren.
Bronn said he found a cit day 2. Yoren didn't tell us who Bronn visited until now = Yoren was the one that had to find the cit.

Ser Ilyn
May 8th, 2012, 08:58 PM
I don't understand why you want to lynch Bronn.

Lynch Bronn because its the only way we are ever gonna lynch anyone.


So everyone is going for this guy.
Ill vote him for now Vote Bronn

Scummy reason
Is scummy

Ser Gregor
May 8th, 2012, 08:59 PM
So everyone is going for this guy.
Ill vote him for now Vote Bronn

I have wanted to lynch samwell since day two. More evidence for the file.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 09:01 PM
No, I mean Yoren.
Bronn said he found a cit day 2. Yoren didn't tell us who Bronn visited until now = Yoren was the one that had to find the cit.

Gotcha.

Anyway.. Who agrees with the plan to execute Ser Rodrik for claiming to have been witched day 1 after being "revealed" as a serf/jester/coven leader/cult leader on day 4?

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 09:02 PM
-vote bronn I'd rather lynch scum than noone today.

Samwell
May 8th, 2012, 09:05 PM
I havn't wanted you to Shut the fuck up since day 1.
I claim citizen, So that is a reason to lynch me.
No it is not a reason to lynch me I claim it because I just want to say what I am and get that out of the way.
Sorry for insulting you btw. I forone do not trust Ser Gregor,Jon
I posted this thread


Hey guy's if you don't believe I'm a Serf I honestly don't give a fuck. But let's get onto Jon he started the vote on me for claiming Serf he say's that there is no way I can be citizen.
Jon anwser my questions.
How would you know I'm not a Citizen?
Why did you choose to put me up for claiming Serf?
Why single me out when other people have made claims?
Just because I claim Serf I don't understand why you start a lynch on me explain yourself please.


Quote Originally Posted by Tywin View Post
While I do think Joffrey/Davos are both incredibly retarded, I can't say for sure whether Joffrey is scum if the thing he says about being able to see the title of the jail chat if you were jailed in the FM Run 1 to be true or not. If the thing he is saying about the code phrase is true, then I can partially understand his reluctance to confirm Davos. At this point they are both on possible scum list, but there isn't a lot more to glean on that one. On another note, because we have two claimed investigators (Joffrey and Bronn) I'm interested to see what their results were (depending on the risk levels of the release of that info). You don't have anything to lose, unless your targets have a high probability of being a powerful PR.

Anyway, Samwell/Daenerys seem to be defending each other for some reason, not sure why. Samwell is trolling so much that if he is a serf, he's completely useless to this time at a) taking a bullet and b) scumhunting. He's distracting the town so much that it might even help us to lynch him if he's a Fool.
I have not defended Daenerys once so WTF are you on about. I really am Serf there is no need to lynch me because I claim Serf. Why would Mafia waste a kill on a Serf. Also I'm good at scum hunting so I could actualy find out if I read all the post's. I will start reading the post's more if they become more serious rather they just random talking. From now on ill stop "Troll" ill help help town and find the scum right now I think we should question Jon. Also he seems to vote people alot let's do the same to him

Before I seen that people were going for Bronn but If Broon is evil then Ser Gregor is On going to be a big guy on my shit list.
I think we need to question him. For now I'm going to say that Jon is good but back on you Ser Gregor

Samwell
May 8th, 2012, 09:06 PM
Now Ill be back soon

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 09:08 PM
Gotcha.

Anyway.. Who agrees with the plan to execute Ser Rodrik for claiming to have been witched day 1 after being "revealed" as a serf/jester/coven leader/cult leader on day 4?

With the interceptor running around, I agree that the jailor should be the one to execute him if that is what we want. I don't think the interceptor can kill the jailor since the jailing is before the entrapment in the order of ops.

Vig should stay hidden and avoid traps.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 09:10 PM
I just realized something. Looking back at Ser Rodrik's post saying that he got witched and the post immediately after that, he MIGHT have meant that he was the secondary target of the witch.



No that wasn't a hint. I was saying, if samwell was jester the 2 neutrals would already be dead, so it would be safe to assume you aren't student.

I don't know if I still believe you're student now...

Your night 1 target was Ser Rodrik

I have no other night results worth revealing yet
I was witched night one.



I was witched night one.
If Bronn can confirm visiting me or deny it, then that means Yoren must be a witch.

Bronn, what were your findings on night one?

Then again, it's also possible that he made that second post to correct a slip-up.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 09:11 PM
His choice of words was really poor anyway.

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 09:14 PM
I dont believe his claim and i cant be afraid of lynching someone forever- vote bronn

Khal Drogo
May 8th, 2012, 09:18 PM
I demand a tally before I vote for anything.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 09:19 PM
Ser Jorah(1): Viserys
Bronn(1): Oberyn, Petyr, Jon, Janos, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Cersei, Samwell, Catelyn, Stannis
Jon(2): Melisandre, Ser Gregor
Yoren(1): Cersei
Tyrion(1): Khal Drogo

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 09:20 PM
WOOPS




Ser Jorah(1): Viserys
Bronn(10): Oberyn, Petyr, Jon, Janos, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Cersei, Samwell, Catelyn, Stannis
Jon(2): Melisandre, Ser Gregor
Yoren(1): Cersei
Tyrion(1): Khal Drogo





Fixed

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Melisandre voted Petyr, not Jon. Not that it matters much.

Khal Drogo
May 8th, 2012, 09:24 PM
I see..........................................
-unnvote Tyrion
I'm watching you Tywin, like an eaglehawk. You and Tyrion both.
But alas, we're going after Bronn today.
-vote Bronn

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Ok, the tally is at L-3 for Bronn. I suggest people stop voting for now because we still have 20 hours and 30 minutes and I'd like to hear more opinions on what to do with Rodrik's "witched claim."

And maybe more will come up.

Cersei
May 8th, 2012, 09:29 PM
Jailer may also need time to choose a target. He hasn't posted at all today.

Stannis
May 8th, 2012, 09:34 PM
Just in case people try to rush the lynch - unvote

Tywin
May 8th, 2012, 09:34 PM
I see..........................................
-unnvote Tyrion
I'm watching you Tywin, like an eaglehawk. You and Tyrion both.
But alas, we're going after Bronn today.
-vote Bronn

Lol so much contradiction in this post

First you said earlier that you want to lynch someone badly, then vote for the most random person who no one will lynch at all. I call you out on that.

Now without much reasoning at all you unvote, say that you are "watching me" as if I am the one who has acted scummy in this little conversation, and then jump on Bronn lynch train. Not to say that I don't support a lynch on Bronn, but your actions just scream scum at me.

Khal would be a good target for invests tonight (or not, WIFOM interceptor)

Melisandre
May 8th, 2012, 09:36 PM
I see..........................................
-unnvote Tyrion
I'm watching you Tywin, like an eaglehawk. You and Tyrion both.
But alas, we're going after Bronn today.
-vote Bronn

Ah, the classic mafia watching mafia strategy. Very nice, indeed, Khal Drogo.

Thank you, Queen Regent, for correcting my vote. Lady Stark, should I be worried about our Paladin misplacing my vote?

I will vote Bronn should we require it as night nears. In the interim, I shall remind those watching of Khal Drogo and Tywin Lannister's "feud," Petyr Baelish's deceptiveness (notice how he did not claim he was not what I claimed him to be, but instead tried to deflect suspicion onto Jon Snow and myself), and Ser Gregor/Ser Ilyn's sudden appearances once young Samwell posted. Something is afoot, but I would not be surprised if I did not survive the night.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 09:39 PM
Ah, the classic mafia watching mafia strategy. Very nice, indeed, Khal Drogo.

Thank you, Queen Regent, for correcting my vote. Lady Stark, should I be worried about our Paladin misplacing my vote?

I will vote Bronn should we require it as night nears. In the interim, I shall remind those watching of Khal Drogo and Tywin Lannister's "feud," Petyr Baelish's deceptiveness (notice how he did not claim he was not what I claimed him to be, but instead tried to deflect suspicion onto Jon Snow and myself), and Ser Gregor/Ser Ilyn's sudden appearances once young Samwell posted. Something is afoot, but I would not be surprised if I did not survive the night.

I'm honestly not sure how I misplaced your vote, I do apologize for that.

Ser Gregor
May 8th, 2012, 09:40 PM
I think we need to step back. There is far to much day left.

Lord Varys
May 8th, 2012, 09:41 PM
Looking at the Bronn bandwagon. Bronn realy isn't acting like a Cult Leader at all. Yeah, the "Cult Leader claiming the role of a thrall" is a valid and possible tactic, but why would the Cult Leader be making such big gamebit's and claiming student on the first lynching day? It makes no sence, especialy with a confirmed vigilante. Cult Leader should be lurking his ass off, not making a target.

We should acutaly lynch today, but the Bronn case needs to be sorted out. I could see Bronn being a culted investigator, but no way the cult leader. It feels like people are looking over the flaws just so they can mash a bandwagon together.


Despite having said all of that, Ser Rodrick's sudden witch claim is scummy in the extreme. However, unlike Bronn, he has been lurking a bit, not putting himself in the line of fire. Unlike Bronn, he could actualy be the Cult Leader who made a big slip up.

-Vote Ser Rodrick

Khal Drogo
May 8th, 2012, 09:46 PM
Lol so much contradiction in this post
First you said earlier that you want to lynch someone badly, then vote for the most random person who no one will lynch at all. I call you out on that.
Now without much reasoning at all you unvote, say that you are "watching me" as if I am the one who has acted scummy in this little conversation, and then jump on Bronn lynch train. Not to say that I don't support a lynch on Bronn, but your actions just scream scum at me. Khal would be a good target for invests tonight (or not, WIFOM interceptor)


So much contradiction, I'll admit, I am a Skittle. I only voted someone unlikely to bring some attention to that person who has posted approximately 1 time a day since day 2. I wasn't expecting a lynch on him, just raising awareness. I was waiting until the others decided to stop bickering and decide to do something. You're so quick to defend Tyrion, who isn't here to defend himself. And might probably never be.

Tywin
May 8th, 2012, 09:53 PM
So much contradiction, I'll admit, I am a Skittle. I only voted someone unlikely to bring some attention to that person who has posted approximately 1 time a day since day 2. I wasn't expecting a lynch on him, just raising awareness. I was waiting until the others decided to stop bickering and decide to do something. You're so quick to defend Tyrion, who isn't here to defend himself. And might probably never be.

This is detracting attention from the main issues. Let's just put it to rest:

I did not defend Tyrion in anyway. I just said that he will not be lynched today. However, you contradict yourselves many times and acted scummy/retarded. So we are both on each other's scum list. End of story.

While I agree in principle that Bronn doesn't seem to have played like the cult leader, it is plausible that it was a high-risk gambit that may have worked if we draw such conclusions, Varys. Nonetheless, the town will not manage to generate a lynch on anyone else at this point.

Does anyone know who hasn't posted yet today?

Oberyn
May 8th, 2012, 09:55 PM
As I said at the begining of the day. DON'T HAMMER until we are ready. This bullet train is going too fast. In fact, I only really went for Bronn instead of the other 2 was because of the other suspicious things going on with him. But I think Cersei has a good point that both Yoren and Rodrick can be guilty and Bronn still be innocent.

So I think we should evaluate who of the 3 is the best lynch. Bronn, Yoren or Rodrick? I'll go do some digging in all the day posts to see what I come up with. I'll be back with what I find on all 3 of them.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 09:56 PM
I just realized something, and it made Tywin skyrocket up my scumlist. Asking GM a question before I elaborate though....

Viserys
May 8th, 2012, 09:59 PM
-vote Bronn

I demand blood god damn it!

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Ah, the classic mafia watching mafia strategy. Very nice, indeed, Khal Drogo.

Thank you, Queen Regent, for correcting my vote. Lady Stark, should I be worried about our Paladin misplacing my vote?

I will vote Bronn should we require it as night nears. In the interim, I shall remind those watching of Khal Drogo and Tywin Lannister's "feud," Petyr Baelish's deceptiveness (notice how he did not claim he was not what I claimed him to be, but instead tried to deflect suspicion onto Jon Snow and myself), and Ser Gregor/Ser Ilyn's sudden appearances once young Samwell posted. Something is afoot, but I would not be surprised if I did not survive the night.

And why, exactly, would I deny your claim?

Tywin
May 8th, 2012, 10:02 PM
I just realized something, and it made Tywin skyrocket up my scumlist. Asking GM a question before I elaborate though....

Not sure what game mechanic has to do with my scumminess, to have to ask the GM

Hallelujah

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 10:07 PM
Not sure what game mechanic has to do with my scumminess, to have to ask the GM

Hallelujah

I'd explain but I don't want to cause trouble. I'll post when I get a response.

Tywin
May 8th, 2012, 10:12 PM
I'd explain but I don't want to cause trouble. I'll post when I get a response.

Out of curiosity, how could you judge my scumminess based off a game mechanic issue that you have to ask the GM personally about? IMO those kind of problems are related to night actions. If you have a night result on me that proves my scumminess, please share it. If you are a mason as you claim, however, then that issue is out. I personally don't really understand where you are coming from.

In any case I'm going to be offline for about 10~12 hours after which I will return to answer any questions.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 10:14 PM
Out of curiosity, how could you judge my scumminess based off a game mechanic issue that you have to ask the GM personally about? IMO those kind of problems are related to night actions. If you have a night result on me that proves my scumminess, please share it. If you are a mason as you claim, however, then that issue is out. I personally don't really understand where you are coming from.

In any case I'm going to be offline for about 10~12 hours after which I will return to answer any questions.

Questioning me is a dead end considering I just said I don't want to cause trouble by explaining.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 10:19 PM
But no, it has nothing to do with my role. If that makes you feel better. Or not? hahaha

Khal Drogo
May 8th, 2012, 10:24 PM
Well then! These are the people who haven't posted today: Ser Jorah, Ser Davos.
Tyrion posted once just to say how he wasn't a lurker.

Robb
May 8th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Since Cap and Jack are gone, I might as well put in my two cents anyway before I claim. Bronn and Yoren are definitely the two most scummy.

Yoren, however, I find more scummy, because it actually looks like he is going far out of the way to confuse us. If I were Mr. Von Helsing, he would be shot.

We need to lynch today, it's day fucking 4.

If everyone switches over to Yoren, I would jump right on that, but I'm a little hesitant with someone I'm not sure about at L-3. Also, he hasn't defended himself.

Bronn
May 8th, 2012, 10:47 PM
Either Gregor or Rodrik can confirm me but they won't because they are scum.

Night 1 - Targeted Robb, Witched, Cit / gf / cult leader / jester - Yoren says I visited Ser Rodrik, is probably the witch unless a detective targeted me the same night
Night 2 - Eddard - Janitor / Coroner / Amnesiac / Survivor
Night 3 - Gregor - Cit / gf / cult leader / jester

The reason I checked revealed Ser Gregor is because I thought he was the cult leader. I later revealed him because you still don't believe I'm the inves and because I got the results I was expecting.

Forum Mafia GM
May 8th, 2012, 10:50 PM
Can Dracula be smote/smited/smelted?



You may -smite a foe, ending their cursed life if they are affected with Dracula's personal curse.


...

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 10:59 PM
...

Answer mah PM :(

Bronn
May 8th, 2012, 11:00 PM
...

Yes, you've already told me.

Forum Mafia GM
May 8th, 2012, 11:03 PM
Answer mah PM :(
You say that as if you didn't just send it to me just now.


Yes, you've already told me.
How very observant of you.

Palpatine
May 8th, 2012, 11:04 PM
You say that as if you didn't just send it to me just now.


How very observant of you.

I am sorry FM GM-san

Forum Mafia GM
May 8th, 2012, 11:05 PM
If that's all, I'm going to bed. Finals in the morning and all that.

Bronn
May 8th, 2012, 11:10 PM
I know I'll be lynched because you don't go back from L-2. At least you can lynch Joffrey, Rodrik, Gregor and Yoren for me afterwards. Apart from claiming student and having that picked apart by Barristan I don't think I did much wrong this game. If Robb flips consort I was going to check scum on all 3 nights :D

Petyr
May 8th, 2012, 11:14 PM
-unvote Bronn

I doubt he's scum because of how quickly he was jumped on. At worst he's a consigliere that's forced to be open with us.

Bronn
May 8th, 2012, 11:21 PM
I'm going to school now so if you want to talk to me I'll be back just before 5 BST. Try to get Gregor or Rodrik to confirm the results I got on them, which will be hard because they're just going to lurk.

Oberyn
May 9th, 2012, 01:09 AM
Here is what I've found on the 3. Yellow is added by me to highlight things. Warning.. it's a long read.

Day 1:
Bronn -

I'm a pupil. If anyone wants to be my mentor can you please give me some good reasons why I should pick you? I might end up choosing on night 2 tbh but if someone makes a good claim today I'll go with them. I won't tell you who I have picked or which night I'm going to take them as my mentor. Please no cits claim, I get cit enough as it is.
Obviously looking for PR claims. Almost screams out: "Cult Leader here, what PR wants to be recruited first?"


I'm a bit annoyed that there has only been one 100% truthful, no wifom claim. I'll probably just pick someone with a funny name tbh. If that person happens to be the cult leader, boo hoo you.
Still pushing for PR claims. Mentions that he wouldn't mind being Cult leader.

Over all thoughts: He draws allot of attention to himself d1, gives investigative roles a reason to check him. Also he may have been trying to hint to a real student to pick him. I hope that didn't happen.

Yoren - nothing of note.. mostly spam
Rodrik - nothing of note.. mostly spam

Day 2:
Bronn -

I have taken a mentor who I can tentatively say is town. I will probably be able to say more tomorrow.
The word tentatively attracted lots of attention, might be trying to attract a student to him by hinting that he is not town.



Why do you tentatively say his role is town?
I am confused.



Are you just lying to us?
I will ponder on this.



Bronn now has claimed he's a student
I claimed on day 1. Try to pay more attention.

Pressure voting Samwell isn't wise. The chance of him being scum is low and you won't get anything out of him except for maybe revealing a PR.
Hints that he lied, tries to reinforce his student claim. Also defends Samwell, maybe hoping to look good if Samwell was lynched.



If you picked a mentor, shouldn't you KNOW whether or not he is town?
i dunno
This is where things got strange. He avoided any questioning by saying he didn't know. This attracted even more attention.

Not sure whether to say something or continue lurking...
This was after I posted my thoughts on Yoren and how I thought he looked scummy. He obviously had something to say but withheld it and made a point to let us know that he was holding info.



Depends, you gonna say something that would help us or keep pretending that you choose a random mentor?
Who do you mean by us? Because I don't think it would help town.
The Classic: "Hey look guys! I have info but I shouldn't tell anyone because it would help scum" post

(a useless list of possible roles)
And remember, ask me no questions and I won't tell you no lies.
Wants us to stop asking questions so he can stop lying.. He probably wanted a PR to check him that night.




We don't want the role, we want your mentors name.

-vote Bronn

My votes stays until you reveal your mentor.
Not going to happen. If he is a PR I won't tell you his name so we get killed, if he is scum I won't tell you his name so we are lynched and if he is a cit I won't to tell you his name so we can't take a bullet for town.
Dodges every role and faction possible.

And I do believe that Yoren knows my mentor's name but I would ask him not reveal this until I have claimed.
Believes Yoren, adding to the link between them. If he was town, he would have pursued Yoren because Bronn would have thought he was the witch. But he doesn't. (and then he doesn't check Yoran that same night to see what he is)

If I reveal my mentor then I reveal the role that I become after he dies and then I'm useless. I haven't been trying to look like an inexperienced player nor have I been hiding my identity. I have no reason to defend myself, I haven't even been voted nor have I done anything anti-town. Revealing my mentor today will not help town in the slightest and it is not my position to do so without first talking with him about what we want to do.

I revealed on day 1 because I'd rather not be random killed on night 1 like last time and who would kill a student before they have taken a mentor? They wouldn't kill me when there was the chance I would take them or someone in their team as a mentor. They will know tonight if I'm not in their team so I kind of expect to die tonight. Asking people to offer to become my mentor wasn't as useful as I thought it would be for analysis because most people ignored my claim :/

I will again ask Yoren not to reveal my mentor yet. I might end up doing it tomorrow anyway, depending on what we think is the best thing to do. I didn't bother answering the stupid parts of your post.
This looks like he is trying to get a doctor to heal him or have a way to claim attacked and healed without too many questions being asked.

That reminds me, I recommend the masons wifom or really ward (or whatever it's called) Yoren because if he is culted then the cult will know my mentor. If the cult manages to convert my mentor then I will also join the cult.
He is trying to direct the Masons and disguising it to look like he is adding wifom. This is very pro-cult.
(band wagon starts now)

Do any of you feel like explaining the votes they put on me or were you just happy to jump on a bandwagon? What do you want to be the result of the pressure vote? For me to reveal my mentor so he can be killed or culted?
He realizes that he has to slow down the train by making it look like it is unwarranted. Doesn't add anything to help his case.



I think I've solved the puzzle, be back with a full explanation.

PS: Bronn is gonna be mad at me for exposing his "real" lie that will force his hand.

Please don't lynch.
I was going to say something anyway. Barristan dug too deep.
He thinks that I knew his real role and realizes that it's a race who can post first.


I think Yoren probably is a detective. I would have followed someone claiming student.
Gives PRs a reason to protect Yoren.. completely ignores the fact that he claimed to have been witched and Yoren "knows" his target.

I'm the inves. Night 1 I was witched onto a Cit / gf / cult leader. I don't know if Yoren would be that stupid. I find it hard to believe that he would be but it's a definite possibility. Regardless I planned to check him tonight.
Claims invest, claims to have found cit, claims to have been witched, tries to defend Yoren from looking suspicious from witched claim.


Yoren might as well claim who I targeted and say why he would reveal. He won't die tonight if he scum think he could be the witch.
He made him look like a detective, now he has to protect him from scum at night.


I found it interesting that the witch didn't force me to target herself. I was surprised when I got the result back. Maybe she tried witching me onto someone she thought was scum.
So why try to make the witch waste your night 1 investigation? Hint to get the witch into the cult?


I forgot to say I was going to check Robb on night 1. He seemed like lurking scum to me.
New claim... trying to make it believable. Interesting to note that Robb didn't lurk day 1. In fact he has more posts than many people. So his reason was total BS.

I still stand by that a student shouldn't have revealed his mentor in my situation but I get where you're coming from. tbh it would have been better if I had spent the whole day lurking and let people think I was scummy instead of trying to answer questions.

I'm going to bed soon so if anyone has any other questions ask them soon. I don't believe Samwell is very scummy.
Is this a code for his new student right in day chat not to expose himself?

Over all thoughts: Looking back at his posts with a new angle really tends to lead me to believe he was trying to get a student to pick him. And get the PR detecting roles to waste a night on him again. Defending Yoren and claiming to have been witched doesn't add up. And he DOESN'T check Yoren n2 OR n3.

Yoren -

-vote samwell

I call bs that you have sex with "smoking hot girls everynight."

Also, I'm going to stealth claim neutral
His first post of the day.. already claiming neutral and voting for stupid reasons.

meh
-unvote
let's get some real leads first I guess


All the trolling posts are getting annoying though.
Post count is not something you can vote off.


If you guys want a real lead, I know who Bronn visited last night
Why doesn't he just tell us instead of taunting us with the info?

I am not trying to get converted. I simply have some information.
It can wait until Bronn has a chance to talk to his mentor, if he is indeed student.
"I'm a neutral who won't help town.. Hey cult, I have a secret, wanna know what it is?"

I am not. (Bronn's mentor)
deny deny deny.

Lets have a look at the role list.
I could be 1 of 4 things
Hinting Witch, lookout, detective, mentor
(I then post my thoughts about Yoren being possible jester or ghost)
Yoren doesn't say another word even after Bronn changes his claim.

Over all thoughts: I still think that Yoren is scum, but now I'm considering a new possibility that Yoren became Bronn's student.


Rodrik -

I don't think Jon is scum. That Jarvan guy last FM was a total idiot with tons of scum tells, but in the end he was a cit. So either Jon is jester or trolling and not worth the extra attention.

As for Aemon, I think he's just being a douche and was tired so he read about his guy on wikipedia, lol.
nothing out of the ordinary


-vote Bronn

Lets try not to hammer him until Yoren tells us who he visited last night. Bronn may be a jester that harassed someone last night, so I would like to hear from the person that was visited. -vote Bronn

Haven't read much, but Barristar rises a few good points. Don't hammer him, just pressure him.
He joins the Bronn lynch train. Then simply removes his vote after Bronn claims invest.

Over all thoughts: A man of few words, Withheld the info that he was witched while voting Bronn and unvoted Bronn even though he knew Bronn was lying (if Rodrik witch claim is true).

Day 3:
Bronn -

I checked Eddard last night. I was also bus driven. So not great.

If you want proof talk to Yoren but I have no results from tonight.
checked a dead guy.. can't prove role. Directs attention over to Yoren to answer questions. Has full trust that Yoren is on his side.

I knew they're would be scum on that wagon. If it is agreed by the majority that someone is scummy then scum will get on early with their votes. It happened the same way in FM 9. For this reason I am voting Ser Rodrik. Petyr is not one of the scummiest people here and I don't think he needs to be pressured today.

vote Ser Rodrik

I also have someone good in mind to check tonight.
Out of all the voters, Bronn jumped at the occasion to create distance on Rodrik.



Isn't that what you're doing right now, getting in early with your vote? lol you're what, second to vote for him?
My point was that once a bandwagon has started, scum will all vote for the person the majority think is scummy so that they can look pro-town. This is how jesters get lynched. If that person flips scum then they look like good for voting him. If that person flips town then that's one more town dead and they can hardly be blamed when everyone agreed that that person looked scummy.

I would vote Melisandre if I didn't think she was trying to look scummy on purpose. Sandor, Ser Gregor, Melisandre, Ser Rodrik and Ser Loras all voted one after the other with little to no explanation. Ser Gregor and Ser Rodrik then unvoted after I had claimed and more importantly after Barristan unvoted. They are the two I am most suspicious of because of this.


I have 3 questions for you. Answer all of them please, pretending as if the first condition of each is true
1) Assuming you are invest, why did you claim as student day1?
2) Assuming you are student, why did you switch your claim to invest?
3) Assuming you are other, why all this student/invest nonsense?
1) So I would be able to share my results without getting killed.
2) To take a kill with my cit mentor.
3) Because I'm a ghost.


Some questions for you. You can use as much wifom as you want.

1) Why did you claim PR on day 2?
2) What do you think about me being witched the night you say you knew who I visited?
First post after Yoren posted the questions, starts to argue a bit with Yoren. Can easily have been a planed post and reply.

I feel my investigator claim is starting to fall apart

Everyone knows too much!
Seriously? hinting that he'll be changing his claim again.

Vigi, bus driver and jailor are all confirmed roles, interceptor isn't. Sir Davos is much more likely to be town :/ I thought he might be the jester, he seemed to be trying to look scummy and not contribute.

I don't think we should pressure him. He has 3/4 chance of being an important town PR and his play fits that of a PR. If he wants to claim then fine. Silence might be the best thing for him though.

@ Joffrey

I hope this isn't a gambit or that you are the jester because it makes little sense for you to claim. Why not just tell the jailor your results and let him jail Davos if he wants to? Davos can then claim in private or Davos might actually be the jailor you are accusing.
Why wasn't he this way with Yoren? Yoren knows one of his results and he isn't pestering him like this. Looks like a "focus your attention on Joffrey the invest instead of me and Yoren" post.

Regardless of any phrase I would have thought the jail chat title would have confirmed it but Joffrey still didn't believe you were the jailor. He hasn't said anything since you claimed so either you are lying which I doubt because you would be lynched or Joffrey is just derping around thinking you had a phrase and forgetting the jail chat title.
Joffrey still hadn't confirmed that his night chat title was called "nightcare". Yet Bronn is more focused on eliminating Joffrey the invest rather than a potential interceptor.

I'm still claiming inves.
sounds like he'll change later.

Would it be crazy to think Samwell is a jester? It's so easy to get yourself lynched nowadays that all you need to do is troll. Janos was apparently visited by a jester targeting me so there probably is one. Or Samwell wants us to think he's the jester.

@ Joffrey

Was the name of your jail chat, NIGHTCARE? That's all I need to know.
This is one of the few valid questions that really needed to be answered by Joffrey (thus why I think he is consig) but that can wait.

holy hell
This was after Yoren posted that he still thought he was student. Code for Shut UP?

Just copy a few exact posts from jail chat. If you can't do that your not the jailor.
Encourages the jailor to break the rules and risk being modkilled. This is scummy as hell.

He can post Oberyn's posts as well.
As if getting Joffreys posts wasn't enough, he wants to see what I talked to the jailor about.

hurray

vote Joffrey
As soon as jailor finally confirms his role, he instantly votes Joffrey... Joffrey had valid reasons to doubt the jailor claim (if the nightchat wasn't nightcare)

You revealed the jailor based on getting the result Jailor / BD / Vigi / Interceptor. 3 of those roles are confirmed to be in the game, 1 isn't yet you still revealed. If he's the interceptor you get town cred, if he's not then you force him to claim or best of all get him lynched. Even after Davos told you the thread title you still pushed for his lynch even though the only way he could have gotten that information is by being the jailor. You have either made up the phrase to get him lynched or Davos is having a massive derp and not seeing it every time he looks at the thread.

At first I thought you were pulling a stupid gambit after you told us why Davos is almost definitely scum but now that Davos is confirmed and in such a way that you did it you are almost definitely the consig. I believe it was likely that Barristan was checked before he was killed and the chance of 2 inveses in such a small roles list is slim at best.
Adding more pressure on Joffrey

I don't find Samwell especially scummy though and I don't want really want to force a PR claim from him or lynch a jester. Joffrey is almost definitely scum.

Davos, did you post what Joffrey says you posted in jail chat?
Says Joffrey is scum before finding out that jailor did have a code.

ok Davos is an idiot.

I forgot that all our actions are randomised if the jester dies, though that's not such a bad thing. Is Samwell nearly lynched?
jailor random executes, vig random shoots... thats not bad at all. It's only good for scum!!!

Gregor = obvious cult leader
Umm... why? more like Bronn is setting up his next day check claim

Over all thoughts: He tries his best not to attract attention day 3, jumping on what ever to set the focus on anyone other than him. Conversations with Yoren sound rehearsed. Tries to avoid Yoren??

Yoren -

Isn't that what you're doing right now, getting in early with your vote? lol you're what, second to vote for him?

I have 3 questions for you. Answer all of them please, pretending as if the first condition of each is true
1) Assuming you are invest, why did you claim as student day1?
2) Assuming you are student, why did you switch your claim to invest?
3) Assuming you are other, why all this student/invest nonsense?
As mentioned above, this sounds rehearsed.

1) I read the thread 2-3 times and all I saw was trolling, so I decided to get some serious discussion going. Maybe not the smartest idea as I was roleblocked last night.
2) I think that if you really were invest, you would pressure me more about who it is you visited. If you are student then you have no need to know who it is you visited. Since you didn't pressure me, I am inclined to believe you are a student.

I will stay true to my word and keep the identity of your cmentor safe, until you wish it revealed.
part 2 of the rehearsed convo. His roleblock claim is so well blended in, I missed it the first 3 times I read the thread.

I propose a plan.
Jailor don't execute tonight (if you can)
Whoever is jailed, DON'T CLAIM IT OUT, WAIT FOR SER DAVOS TO SAY WHO HE JAILED

Then from there the jailed person can confirm or deny
1) they confirm. davos is clean.
1b) they confirm. we proclaim davos clean, but they are both scum. [this is also beneficial to us- potential to find 2 members of 1 team]
2) they deny. davos is lynched. davos is clean. the denier is obvious scum then.
2b)they deny. davos is lynched. davos is scum.

I think this is a much better plan.


-vote renly
(pressure for more songs )
My first thought was "what if he jails the jester" but I decided to continue pressure since I didn't want a no-lynch day.

I guess we can always find out if your results are correct or not
-vote ser davos
If not this, then I will be wondering the whole game about joffrey (am always suspicious of anyone who appoints themselves town-leader, in the same way jack doesn't like anyone who appoints themselves moderator)
If he doesn't get lynched, we follow my plan.
I can't help but notice that Yoren takes the opposite position of Bronn in this duel. Trying to add distance between the 2?

Is nightcare really the name of the jail thread?
Didn't Bronn ask the same thing at some point?

Why did we decide samwell is inno again?
>claims cit
>doesn't do the only thing he can do, post and read posts
>implies has a night action
starts the samwell thing again, something Bronn was against d2. Got a few votes too.

By the way, is there anything useful in day1?
I'm going to go take some notes, then post again if needed, then sign off (won't be back until day4)
So if you want to ask me anything post now
Didn't you notice Bronns student claim? You ta

He won't be jester.

I still believe Bronn is student.

If he is jester, I'll reveal Bronns n1 target.
(SCUM ALERT!)Do the math, why can't there be a jester if Bronn is student? There is still 2 unknown neutrals, Bronn is only 1 from what he is saying.. It's because Yoren IS the other neutral as the 2nd. Also provokes an instant reaction from Bronn as to say shut up, you slipped.

Over all thoughts: Looking at day 3 again, looks like Yoren and Bronn tried to create the illusion of distance between them but failed. It is also of note that there were quite a few posts that I didn't include in this because they were spam.

Rodrik -




How amusing that the nosferatu killed Eddard, one of the biggest scumbags around. Are you responsible for this Joffrey? If so, well done.

I believe that Robb and Catelyn might be scum pretending to scum hunt and acting pro-town by pointing fingers at people who talk about GoT because it's "trolling" and trying to see slip-ups that aren't there. Let's eliminate them Starks just to be sure!

Ser Jorah and Rodrik are suspects too in my eyes. Jorah, Rodrik and Eddard supported Barristan in a similar way. One more wordy than the other. Note that it was Eddard's coven that killed Barristan. They really must have believed that he was important and a town leader. Someone they could hide behind before removing him.

Cultists are still priority if we can find them, but Rodrik's stance being so similar to Eddard's is too hard to ignore without clear evidence present. So he would be a good start for a pressure vote.

vote Ser Rodrik

YOU HAPPY NOW CATELYN AND ROBB THE NOSFERATU?
Supported him? I voted Bronn for looking suspicious. Want to know something funny? That guy was sheriff. Now who looks scummy, you idiot?
Doesn't seem to have the same outlook on Bronn anymore. But still wants to create distance.

Bronn looked extremely scummy. I voted for my own reasons. Cersei is just a retard. I'm not dumb enough to go on bandwagon votes. Berristan was sheriff, so how am I scummy for voting with him? Good thinking, dipshit.
More defending, more insults...

Also, Bronn, I unvoted after you roleclaimed. Just because I unvoted after Berristan has nothing to do with shit. Also, he is sheriff, so your only key part as to how I'm "scum" is because I unvoted and Eddard did afterwards.

Berristan is confirmed town.

You're not.
Part of a rehearsed conversation with Bronn and Yoren?

By the way, I think Cersei is executioner. That's why he's all over my balls. Even back when Davos was scummy, he was still riding my dick. Also, he admitted to not being bishop..

Anything he says.. to me at least, is invalid.
2 executioners in the same FM? don't think so, looks more like trying to give a possibility to the unknown neutral.

If Davos dies tonight, you do realize it is 100% your fault, right? I wish we had a vigilante who could dayshoot.
Places blame on Joffrey alone.. maybe to tie up day 4 discussion hoping that the mafia will kill the jailor.

Over all thoughts: Rodrik does a little better at blending in but there does seem to be a rehearsed argument between the 3 of them. Rodrik doesn't post nearly as much.


Conclusion: I stick with my original thought and I do believe that Bronn is the best lynch. If Yoren is a student that picked Bronn, that would leave n2 to recruit Jaime who died. I think Rodrik was recruited n1.

Aemon
May 9th, 2012, 01:48 AM
-vote Bronn

Ser Jorah
May 9th, 2012, 03:38 AM
I am very pleased with this day, I feel that we have finally begun creating some accountability.

Slightly disappointed that I only received one vote. I was wondering what would happen if I didn't post for a day, it seems that lurkers can get away with things (in the short term at least!).

The progress made on the Yoren/Bronn/Rodrik situation is commendable and I certainly think there is evidence to support it. Specifically, Janos/Oberyn/Cersei have all been making head roads and all appear to be very pro-Town (though if any of them would flip scum, my money would be on Cersei).

I know it's difficult to apply any pressure on other people if we're pretty content on our selection of lynch targets, but personally I don't see why we should stop the work today. It would be nice to hear more of a response from the accused, but it would also be nice to hear some analysis and feedback from other individuals who might have to explain themselves - difficult because there's no fear of a lynch, but right now any pro-Town player should be happy to chip in since the scum will have much better targets for tonight.

I include myself in this category, time to buckle up and put my serious face on. Time to go back and write a completely new set of notes - I hope before the day ends I can sift through some of the various claims and information and discover any fallacies.

I must admit I'm sad to see Theon perish in the night. I can see why he was a target.

I hope Janos is feeling safe and secure tonight without a Carriage Driver :D

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 05:09 AM
That's really funny that you think that was rehearsed. You're so one sided.

I didn't want to reveal Bronn's mentor because Ser Barristan told me about 5 times day 2 not to. He flipped sheriff so I decided to stick with that until today.

Ser Barristan was shot on the night after he questioned Bronn alot. It might be connected.

I watched somebody who visited Daenerys last night. Daenerys claims roleblocked so the person I watched is either escort/consort.
Daenerys seems very very scummy to me, so I assume the person I found is escort who thinks the same of Daenerys.
That's why I am not revealing my results last night.

Any other questions?

-vote Bronn

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 05:15 AM
The stuff I posted about 'samwell can't be jester otherwise bronn isn't student' shenanigans was wrong btw
I saw the role list on the front of this day and thought there were only 2 neutrals total. I didn't realise that role list was only what was left, and there were 3 neutrals total.
I'm an idiot.

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 05:21 AM
Handy Dandy tallymaster!!!!!
Ser Jorah(1): Viserys
Bronn(13): Oberyn, Jon, Janos, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Cersei, Samwell, Catelyn, Stannis,Khal Drogo, Viserys, Aemon, Yoren
Jon(2): Melisandre, Ser Gregor
Yoren(1): Cersei
Tyrion(1): Khal Drogo


BRONN IS AT L-1. We've already been 2 days without a lynch.

Joffrey
May 9th, 2012, 05:40 AM
If he's at L-1, I have no issue with voting him right now and getting a lynch done. I have full confidence that he's not an investigator.

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 05:47 AM
Idk what it is, but I feel his student claim wouldn't make sense if he was anything other than student.
Vote him and get it over with

Joffrey
May 9th, 2012, 05:48 AM
Idk what it is, but I feel his student claim wouldn't make sense if he was anything other than student.
Vote him and get it over with

I am thinking right now. Let me deliberate.

Joffrey
May 9th, 2012, 05:58 AM
I'm the investigator and it's highly unlikely that he's an investigator as well.

-vote Bronn

He has stuck to that role claim and it just doesn't hold a lot of water around here.

You'll all see that I am the investigator.






Yes, that was the hammer vote.

Jon
May 9th, 2012, 06:00 AM
HOLY SHIT A LYNCH

WHAT A SHOCK

No seriously, the way things went in Day 2 and 3 I thought we'd never get anything done.

Joffrey
May 9th, 2012, 06:02 AM
Before the day ends, I want to say something. When I saw the request that I not speak until Bronn gives results, I turned invisible mode off so that people could see that I was watching the thread but not posting. I didn't even say "okay," or "affirmative." I just didn't post.

Tywin
May 9th, 2012, 06:03 AM
Holy ****

I come back and we've actually lynched someone

Da fuq?

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 06:09 AM
Only scum use invisible mode!
Down with the lurkers!

Joffrey
May 9th, 2012, 06:11 AM
Only scum use invisible mode!
Down with the lurkers!

Stop changing your avatar. It helps to have an avatar I can associate with the name rather than 3-4 that you switch out.

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 06:11 AM
I got bored of pingu though. This one fits my role

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 06:24 AM
I just realised you could probably cheat and put messages in your avatar at a time when nobody is online, and then change it after

Viserys
May 9th, 2012, 06:40 AM
btw I find it hard to believe there are two investigators so if Bronn flips investigator you are suspect number 1 Joffrey.

Joffrey
May 9th, 2012, 06:42 AM
btw I find it hard to believe there are two investigators so if Bronn flips investigator you are suspect number 1 Joffrey.

I also find it hard to believe. Lynching him only makes me that much more confirmed.

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 06:48 AM
I would like to say something serious now.

@OBERYN,JON
Why don't you just ask me questions instead of quickly jumping to conclusions?
I'm happy to answer anything. How about you clear yourself first?

Your opinion is not god. And Oberyn, nearly everything you posted in that mega long post about me was wrong. I'm sorry you wasted so much time on it.

Jon
May 9th, 2012, 07:13 AM
I would like to say something serious now.

@OBERYN,JON
Why don't you just ask me questions instead of quickly jumping to conclusions?
I'm happy to answer anything. How about you clear yourself first?

Your opinion is not god. And Oberyn, nearly everything you posted in that mega long post about me was wrong. I'm sorry you wasted so much time on it.
I ask you... What is your opinion on me? Scum, not scum, possible roles?

Yoren
May 9th, 2012, 07:32 AM
I ask you... What is your opinion on me? Scum, not scum, possible roles?

You've been jumping on literally everyone all game, with 0 information other than what people have posted.
You're citizen, or doing a good job of acting.

If you did have a night action that could check me you would have done so by now, And I doubt you would be attacking me.

Robb
May 9th, 2012, 07:37 AM
I got bored of pingu though. This one fits my role

Did you just claim amnesiac?

How would you know who he visited N1?

Is he your student?

Forum Mafia GM
May 9th, 2012, 07:40 AM
Throughout the clamor and din of the day, two words resounded very clearly before eventually climaxing in a angry, guttural chant: "KILL BRONN." The blood-thirsty silver watchers fell upon Bronn as voracious grey eagles, and spilled some of his blood right there with some pre-execution roughhousing, before then binding his hands tautly with chafed hogwire. Two of the silver watchers remained and wrestled Bronn back onto his feet with their armored fists wrapped tightly around the vermin's armpits. The rest of team rushed back and forth with buckets from the hot spring, pouring the scaling water into the baptismal Fountain of Life at the front of the ruined cathedral.

Bronn didn't seem to mind his impending doom as he was lead towards the steaming font of water, and indeed he barely even struggled. His eyes seemed to drift towards the sparkles within his coat. When the retinue of guards had reached the scalding pool of water, one of the guardsmen quickly removed his silver gauntlet and replaced it with a heavy leather mitt, before grabbing the poor Bronn by the nape of his neck and plunging him into the deadly pool of "holy" water. Having lost sight of his beauty, Bronn underwent a violent spasm, as his entire body kicked and jumbled trying to escape from the pain. However, the only thing that escaped from that murder was an endless stream of stolen jewelry, trinkets, and other knickknacks. When Bronn's motion had finally come to an end, the executioner lifted Bronn's mutilated head out of the water, and quickly jerked his soulless body around to appease the crowd. After most of the skin had sloughed off of the monster's face, the only features that stood out against the burnt scarlet skin were strange obsidian eyes and an inhuman jaw structure. The Larcenist's days of butchery and thievery were finally over.

A bloody piece of parchment was the last of Bronn's "personal" effects to fall to the floor, and it read:
We know Gregor is the cult leader because one of our members had a fit when we tried to attack him. gg

Night 4 will end at http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=St+Louis+Missouri+7%3A00+pm%2C+Thursday+May+10+ 2012.

Final Lynch Tally:
Bronn(14): Oberyn, Jon, Janos, Ser Loras, Ser Ilyn, Cersei, Samwell, Catelyn, Stannis, Khal Drogo, Viserys, Aemon, Yoren, Joffrey
Jon(2): Melisandre, Ser Gregor
Yoren(1): Cersei



Role List:



Richard The Flayer
Nosferatu Devout
Nosferatu Devout
Anya Nighthawk
Child of the Stars
Child of the Stars
Warlock (Witch)
Count Dracula (Cult Leader)
Cursed
Cursed
Bishop(Mason Enforcer)
Paladin(Mason "Clubber")
Dr. Adolf von Helsing (Vigilante)
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf
Serf