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Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 05:12 AM
I require your forum identity and role.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 05:45 AM
But I don't know if you're Assassin or Abstergo. I will tell you this:I am Dust. I will also tell you that I am a town PR. I will not tell you which flavor of PR because I have absolutely no way of knowing your alignment.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 05:50 AM
For all I know, you could be Lucy Stillman or not. I will setup a code so that I can tell you my role during the day chat. I will also makecodes for each possible town PR so that you do not know my role. I would also like to know your identity so that I may trust you just that much more (during daychat).

P.S. It's interesting being on this side of a jailor talk

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 05:52 AM
And please don't be like the last jailor who jailed me in FM (Auckmid in FM6). He was retarded and wouldn't talk much.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:17 AM
You've got to understand something, Jailor. Town will not trust you until Lucy Stillman is in the graveyard. If you are Lucy Stillman, then it's going to be your problem (it'll be more pronounced if the town Jailor is dead).

As it is, you should want me to get out of this jailcell because I won't claim to you when you have power over me. If you give a resounding argument on why I should claim here and not in code during the day chat, then I might claim. As it is, I don't know your alignment.

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 06:25 AM
I understand your reluctance. I will return in a short amount of time, so that we can talk more in-depth.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:29 AM
Unfortunately I will be out, away from the computer, for nearly 10-12 hours. You may be speaking to the walls if you are on at that time.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:18 AM
Disguiser codes (My first post of the day will be these in the post's entirety):
D2: Two halves do not make a whole
D3: The grasshopper knows grass
D4: The fish is the envy of the fisherman's friend
D5: A crane is sure to find water
D6: A village in tyranny knows no limits
D7: Moss is mild
D8: The weaver wears rags

I think that's enough for now.

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 03:16 PM
I cannot give out my identity because I can't be sure that you aren't mafia, or neutral. If I ever need to, I will claim in daychat by posting "Ladies and gentlemen, I do believe we are fucked" in its own post.

I think you're lying. You are not a town PR. If you truly are protecting your identity under the premises of not trusting me, you would not have claimed that, because if I was the scum jailor, I could just relay that info right back to my buddies and get you killed tonight. It would, after all, be a better choice than shooting someone at random and possibly hitting a citizen. And only revealing that you are a town PR, and not revealing your exact role as well, is pointless, since to a mafia with no info, it doesn't matter what kind of PR they shoot, as long as they are guaranteed to hit one.

I suggest you reveal your exact role, because you don't seem very trustworthy to me at the moment.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:12 PM
Okay, I am a citizen. It was all wifom. You are acting much like someone who would be a Lucy Stillman. I have analyzed my posts and I see nothing suspicious about them. Tell me why you jailed me and I might trust you more. If your reasons seem legitimate then I will claim.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:17 PM
Also, I didn't want to claim after you reveal yourself. I would claim beforehand. I'm still wifoming a PR because you are piquing my suspicion. I just want to have some insurance that I leave this cell. I'm not putting my role in my last will. The only way you get that information is if I leave this cell alive.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:29 PM
Role-Claim matrix (If I call someone this type of animal):
Mayor: Tiger
Sheriff: Grasshopper
Investigator: Crane
Vigilante: Ant
Jailor: pointless (If I were the jailor I would know for certain that you're Lucy)
Doctor: Fly
Bus Driver: Dragon
Coroner: Panda
Escort: Cat
Bodyguard: Dog
Detective: Mouse
Lookout: Monkey
Veteran: Fish
Gunsmith: Butterfly
Armorsmith: Toad
Journalist: Elephant
Citizen: Tortoise

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 06:46 PM
So I see you aren't a citizen? What the hell kind of games are you trying to play?

I assure you that I am not mafia aligned, and I chose your name at random. However, I'm not entirely certain of your allegiance, thus...

//emergency desync protocol activate

You have until the end of the night to convince me to cancel this.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:48 PM
Action claim matrix (I will quote the person and say the word):
Mayor: ???
Sheriff: Rice (if NS), Noodles (if Assassin), Chow Mein (if New Abstergo)
Investigator: Master (Nth word shows what investigation message)
Vigilante: Kick (if I shot him), Strike (if I planted a bug to possibly day-kill)
Jailor: ???
Doctor: Zen (if healed but not attacked), Chaos (if healed and attacked)
Bus Driver: Wings (target A), Feet (target B)
Coroner: Master (Nth word shows what role), Fiend (Nth word correlates to graveyard [don't count prologue kills]) {all in second post of day}
Escort: Red
Bodyguard: Bamboo
Detective: Vines (target), Honor (target visited this person)
Lookout: Forbidden (target), Emperor (visitors)
Veteran: Chicken (if I went on alert)
Gunsmith: Ninja
Armorsmith: Child
Journalist: Desert (expect this later in the day, I will have to decide sometime)
Citizen: ???

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:49 PM
If you are the town aligned jailor then you are making a grave mistake.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:50 PM
But I am pretty sure you're Lucy Stillman

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:51 PM
Show me where I am suspicious

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 06:53 PM
Also, if you're Lucy Stillman and you kill me then all your possible influence (death) will fly away like so many birds. If you are town aligned then may I direct you to a thread on the forum about failors?

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 07:11 PM
You are suspicious by claiming town PR, yet not giving your exact role. You wanted to make yourself look important to me so I wouldn't fear being called a failor by killing you, yet you hadn't thought out your plan enough, or wanted to give yourself some flexibility. Looks quite scummy to me. I've already explained my reasoning.

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 07:13 PM
My bad, I meant to say that I WOULD fear being called a failor if I killed you.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:16 PM
I am fairly certain that I was jailed by Lucy Stillman because you gave no good reason for jailing me. When I play as jailor I always take good careful notes and jail only those people who I think would either be harmful to town, or would be helpful to reveal to and set up a code. You have used neither.

I am now certain that I will either waste Erudito's action tonight with him trying to figure out my role and put in my last will that the Assassin jailor has no more kills left.

You do not see how I would mess you up so much.

Coming from a citizen.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:17 PM
I understand your reluctance. I will return in a short amount of time, so that we can talk more in-depth.

This is your understanding?


I cannot give out my identity because I can't be sure that you aren't mafia, or neutral. If I ever need to, I will claim in daychat by posting "Ladies and gentlemen, I do believe we are fucked" in its own post.

I think you're lying. You are not a town PR. If you truly are protecting your identity under the premises of not trusting me, you would not have claimed that, because if I was the scum jailor, I could just relay that info right back to my buddies and get you killed tonight. It would, after all, be a better choice than shooting someone at random and possibly hitting a citizen. And only revealing that you are a town PR, and not revealing your exact role as well, is pointless, since to a mafia with no info, it doesn't matter what kind of PR they shoot, as long as they are guaranteed to hit one.

I suggest you reveal your exact role, because you don't seem very trustworthy to me at the moment.

These two posts do not make sense together. That is why I think you are Lucy Stillman.

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 07:23 PM
No. Don't skew what I said. I came on quickly to read your posts and immediately had to leave. I had already thought out most of what I later posted, but I did not have time to put it in words.

Day 1 is useless for info. It is just trolling with no strategizing. I picked a target at random because I had nothing better to go by, and it seems that I made a good move in that.

Are you claiming citizen?

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:24 PM
Of course I'm claiming citizen. I'm also claiming town PR.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:27 PM
Day one is not useless at all. The times that I've done best are the times when I take extremely careful notes on people on days 1 and 2.

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 07:32 PM
Right.

What are your plans for this game, should I decide not to kill you?

Animus Supervisor 214
March 22nd, 2012, 07:35 PM
I would also like to know your true role. Even if I am the mafia jailor, there is no harm in telling me, since you'd die anyway for your town PR claim. But, as the town jailor, I'd rather not see fellow townies die, but with all this uncertainty surrounding you, I cannot be sure.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:35 PM
My plans for this game are to be killed taking the bullet for a PR.

My plans for this game are to find scum by using my night actions and scum-hunting techniques like Muso does.

My goal for this game is to find Yayap and kill him (grudge from FMVIII)

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:36 PM
I would also like to know your true role. Even if I am the mafia jailor, there is no harm in telling me, since you'd die anyway for your town PR claim. But, as the town jailor, I'd rather not see fellow townies die, but with all this uncertainty surrounding you, I cannot be sure.

You want my true role? Let me live through the night. I will claim in the day chat one of the roles on my matrix up there. You won't get it tonight.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 07:38 PM
And if you're the mafia jailor and kill me tonight, then I will be wasting one of Erudito's actions.

Lee Sin
March 22nd, 2012, 09:27 PM
Here are my arguments for keeping me alive for each possibility of your role. I happen to be an expert on your role (regardless of your alignment) so you should listen with an open mind.

If you are Town:
-I am town
-I am smart (people tell me that. I think it's true:/ )
-You would be wasting your one kill on the first night (when I played jailor in FM10 I never killed and looking back on M-FM2 I shouldn't have killed + people will call you a failor after the game)
-You would know what role I am if you let me live
-You would have a steady stream of information (provided I live through a lot of the game) about my night actions (regardless if they exist or not)
-I am looking for someone to kill. Trying to find someone in a crowd makes one take careful notes. Careful notes lead to finding mafia
-I will make it a priority for the town to find and kill Lucy Stillman because I find it hard to trust you. Very hard considering how I'm not scum but you seem to think me scum.
-People will be reluctant to claim to you if you kill and they don't know which jailor is which (unless Lucy Stillman is dead)

If you are Mafia:
-I am wifom'ing a citizen wifom'ing a PR. You will only know my true role if Erudito checks my body.
-You would be wasting your one kill (if you are Lucy then you need that one kill for someone who shows threat to the mafia + I am putting it into my last will that the assassin jailor has no more kills, for the coroner)
-You get a steady stream of information (You would have a steady stream of information (provided I live through a lot of the game) about my night actions (regardless if they exist or not)
-I have a grudge against someone and will kill him regardless of his role.
-I have been known to make mistakes in judgement if circumstances are ambiguous
-I have a connection to another player (Sumikoko) that may make me falter in my duties
-People will be reluctant to claim to you if you kill and they don't know which jailor is which

I will tell you now that if I had a night action it would be on one or two of these people:
Corki
Jarvan IV
Lux
Nasus
Sona
Veigar

Lee Sin
March 23rd, 2012, 05:51 AM
Okay, I will give into the pressure. I am an armorsmith. I don't want to screw this FM up. I think you really are Lucy Stillman but I could be wrong. I am giving some armor to Jarvan IV because of his mid-to-low post count. PRs hide at that level post count so that's what I'll do.

I don't want to die. I don't think you want to use your one kill this early in the game. We both benefit. I am allowing for the distinct possibility that you are town but I doubt it. You're semi-right about mafia knowing about PRs. Some PRs mess with them more than others. If you do kill me now, after I have told you my real role, then you are sure to be Lucy Stillman and I will be 100% correct when I put into my last will "Lucy has no more punch; she killed me"

Lee Sin
March 23rd, 2012, 07:03 AM
I will be back for discussion aprox. 4 hours before night ends.

Animus Supervisor 214
March 23rd, 2012, 11:51 AM
I think I'll believe you for now.

//emergency desync protocol deactivate

I reassure you that I am not Lucy Stillman.

Now that you've claimed your true role, do you mind outlining your plan for the game, or have you already told me all your thoughts?

Lee Sin
March 23rd, 2012, 03:36 PM
I plan on scum hunting through the day because, frankly, my night action has very little in the way of action. I am a delayed-doctor. I will still tell you who I sent armor to with "Child".

I will also note who claims to have been attacked, but not healed. They will most likely claim given armor. I'm not putting the possibility of another armorsmith out the window. 'Lix could have put another one in.

But basically my plan is to analyze posts on my own.

Lee Sin
March 23rd, 2012, 03:45 PM
Oh I almost forgot effect codes (in second post of the day):

Witched: Lightning
Attacked and healed: Storm
Bus Driven: Thunder
Blocked: Hail
Given a gun: Firestorm
Asked by a journalist: Rain

Is there more?