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fm Narks
February 16th, 2012, 03:41 PM
JAILOR:

HELLO NARKS I JAIL YOU TELL ME MASON LEADER AND COM NAMES OF ALL MASONS AND MASON CODES AND NOTES

PROVE TO ME WHY TOWN NEEDS YOU ALIVE

MAYBE I WILL LET YOU GO

NARKS:

Oh, don't worry. I'm here to 100% cooperate. We're on the same side.

I am Mason. I was Citizen on Day 1 and WIFOMed as much as possible to hopefully get shot/doused the following night.

Luna is the Mason Leader.

There are no other Masons. Luna tried to recruit Goremancer on Night 1 and failed (if Goremancer was telling the truth). Jailing me makes me lose access to Mason Chat. However, I can confirm that the message I posted from Mason Chat on Day 2 is the ONLY post in Mason Chat (apart from the GM's Welcome message). Since there are no other recruits, Luna has no one to talk to so she did not post anything.

I will give you all my Private Messages:

(4 PM Quotes)

I only have four PMs.

NARKS:

My COM name is Escaho. I am new to Forum Mafia (the main game).

I do not know Luna's COM name because she did not post it in the lone thread and I did not have a chance to speak with her yet (I was recruited last night and am jailed tonight, so I never had the opportunity to post anything).

JAILOR:

LUNA CAN HANDLE MASONING

I HAVE A JOB FOR YOU TO DO




NARKS:

Yeah, hit me up with the job!

If you do not kill me, this will work out great. We can get a network going in the town. If you do kill me, however, I understand. It will at least confirm that you can trust Luna (and that everyone else can too).

JAILOR:

FROM NOW ON YOU WILL TELL ME EVERY MASON RECRUIT BY QUOTING THE RECRUIT WITH A SINGLE DOT UNDERNEATH THE POST IN INVISIBLE INK

JAILOR:

THE CODE FOR INVISIBLE INK IS

IF I REVEAL TO YOU I WILL QUOTE YOU AND HAVE A SINGLE DOT UNDERNEATH THE POST IN INVISIBLE INK

JAILOR:

*Quotes Narks’ most recent post*

LIKE SO

.

NARKS:

*Quotes Jailor’s most recent post*

Definitely.

I'll test this out.

.


JAILOR:

GIVE ME YOUR NOTES ON THESE PEOPLE MCPWNAGE GOREMANCER OOPS_UR_DEAD KROMOS VORNSKR LYSERGIC ILLIDAN HERRZYNISCH ZACK SUMIKOKO SUICIDALN00B RUMPEL GANONDORF

NARKS:

McPwnage:
-Said he was Neutral Amnesiac and sticks to that claim.
-In my opinion, if this is true, he should be killed anyway. He will not be helping the town, especially if he is fm Claw back from the grave.
-If he actually is Amnesiac we will at least know what role he chooses. However, a Mafia can hide behind claiming a Neutral role so that no one will ever check them.

Goremancer:
-I think he's town. He was given 6 possible Investigation results (Mayor / Dark Thief (Thief) / Survivor / Doctor / Jailor). You could even be him! Honestly, since he was close to revealing I would assume Mayor (or Thief). There is the possibility of Dark Thief and Survivor.
-I think he's more town than anything though. 4/6 possible results and he asked the Town if he should reveal. Probably town.
-He DID ultimately cause the revelation that either Luna or I is Mason Leader. I now have to speak about Luna and I as though we are one now. Was it a mafia ploy? Possibly. I will need to confirm with Luna whether or not she tried to recruit Goremancer on Night 1 (I merely assumed that she did because of his questioning. It's what I would do if I was him).

Oops_ur_dead: Claims Escort (Independent Hooker).
-Right now, I'm inclined to believe him. He role-blocked Elixir and gave sufficient evidence that he was the one who role-blocked Lysergic.
-If he was mafia, why would he reveal Elixir? To give the impression that he's valuable to town? Possibly, but that seems like a ridiculous gambit if true.
-If he lied, then the real Escort could easily just reveal and we could lynch Oops. I'm pretty sure he's town, but no one is 100% in my book, except for Luna.

Kromos: Bussed night 1. Witched night 2. (Looks like I was bussed with Kromos night 1. HerrZynisch witched him night 2.)
-Claims Private Eye (Investigator).
-Results on Goremancer N1: Mayor / Dark Thief (Thief) / Survivor / Docto / Jailor
-Results on Lysergic N2: Green Wizard/ Amnesiac/ Hooker (Escort (Independent Hooker)/ Consig / Private Eye
-To me, seems like a very nervous, new FM player. I'm inclined to trust him, though this may be a ruse. I originally thought that he and Lysergic may be pulling something, but then he correctly put Goremancer's suspected role on the role list AND confirmed the witching by HerrZynisch.
-Appears to be town to me, but we'll see. He'll get Invest results for us tomorrow.

Vorn_skr: Seems like he wants to be pro-town, but also makes him scummy. Perhaps Doctor/Bodyguard/Mayor? Maybe a Citizen. If he is mafia, he's playing his role well. He appears like I did when I played Serial Killer in my last FM: pro-town, offering tips to everyone. Someone to look out for.

Lysergic: I *want* to believe he is town. Claims Private Eye.
-Having two known Investigators would be a huge help for the town. We also know that there is a Lookout out there somewhere.
-Investigation results on him: Green Wizard/ Amnesiac/ Hooker (Escort (Independent Hooker)/ Consig / Private Eye
-Claims Private Eye. Claimed it really fast after seeing Kromos' investigation results on him. Unlikely to be Escort (since Oops claims that role) and cannot be Consigliere.
-Could be Hooker/Amnesiac/Green Wizard/Private Eye. I want to believe him though, because this would be an easy lie to flub up.
-I think he's clean.

Illidan: Not much to say about this guy. He came on and tried to force a lynch on Lysergic who I now think is clean.
-Could be mafia. Tries to appear good. I'm kind of thinking he's Sheriff, but no way to confirm.
-Got my eye on him.

HerrZynisch: Claims Green Wizard.
-I'm inclined to believe him. He witched two separate players (Admiral, N1 & Kromos, N2). He also let those players know who they targeted. If he was an evil witch, why would he let them know this? Perhaps because he already claimed?
-Did NOT state whether he leveled up or not. That makes me suspect of him. If he witched Admiral to see what Admiral would say, he may have been attempting to find Mafia. Herr calls him Citizen so that if he is mafia, Admiral won't admit it.
-I was also going to ask Luna to try and recruit Admiral tonight. If he flipped Citizen, we would have a new recruit and it would confirm HerrZynisch's claim. However, if we could not recruit Admiral then HerrZynisch lied and Admiral is a power role of some sort.

Zack: No idea. I would have suggested to Luna about possibly recruiting him tonight after he claimed Citizen. However, he did only ever pressure vote others to get them to talk. I think he really is a Citizen who attempted to be a Investigative role by placing pressure votes on people to see what they'd say.

An Investigation on him would be good.

Sumikoko: Didn't post jack shit except for two posts AFTER we already lynched a mafia member. I do think that she's just a Citizen though. Modkilled earlier because of no posting and now only comes on to post pretty much nothing. Could be mafia though. Will remain on my radar.

Suicidaln00b: I do NOT think he is Jester. He claimed Sheriff on day 1.
-Is trying to appear douse-mailed.
-I think he's lying. Should be killed. Very likely Citizen, however. He could have fake role-claimed to get HerrZynisch to role-claim. This would also mean that, if n00b is not lynched by the end of the day, a lot of other roles might try to kill him.
-Imo, should be shot at night along with McPwnage. Waste of bullets? Maybe. But killing a neutral/anti-town role is better than not being able to use the bullets at all. However, because of the Citizen possibility, I'm thinking McPwnage is a better target than him.

Rumpel:
-This guy appeared to be pro-Narks towards the start of the day, but then turned on me after I claimed Mason. I do not know why he did this. Maybe he truly does not believe me? Or maybe he is trying to convince the town not to believe Luna and I for fear that the town will trust us.
-The mafia wants uncertainty and indecision amongst the town. Rumpel is causing a bit of that, but he's also extremely secretive.
-Someone to look out for.

Ganondorf: Appears scummy as hell because of how pro-town he is. Continually reminds everyone not to believe that someone is 100% this or 100% that. No one in mafia EVER believes someone is 100% confirmed. We all know this. It goes unsaid. However, I remember a quote someone made in Day 0 about how the mafia will always try to confuse the town and create uncertainty. That's what I'm seeing from him right now. However, he just be a Citizen trying to get everyone to not believe everything they read.

JAILOR:

IF I RELEASE YOU YOU WILL POST THIS MESSAGE ON DAY 3
Originally Posted by fm Jailor
Level 1 thieves, steal from Kromos. I want to talk. Night 2 prisoner, don't reveal.


YOU WILL NEITHER CONFIRM NOR DENY THAT A MASON WAS RECRUITED THIS NIGHT

IF LUNA IS DEAD THEN DO NOT POST THE MESSAGE OR CLAIM JAILED

NARKS:

Okay, I will not confirm to anyone. If Luna does not post who she is going to try and recruit in her will or in Mason Chat, I will not know unless Luna reveals who she tried to recruit. (I am PMing the GM now to see if I'll be informed if someone joins the Masonry.)

If Luna is in the graveyard, I will not claim jailed or post your quoted message. Or any message from here. However, won't it show in the RP that I was jailed? Or will it only show if I remain in jail? Wait, is that why no one ever really knew if there was a Jailor? You released the previous two prisoners?

JAILOR:

IT IS ONLY REVEALED IN THE RP IF I DETAIN A PRISONER

NARKS:

You do not have to answer this question, but I am curious:

Have any thieves ended up in your jail? If I am not mistaken, Dark Thiefs end up in there as well, correct?

I'm hoping that Yayap was the Arsonist so we don't have to worry about him. It is also possible that your jailing is protecting people from dousings. Good job on that.

You do realize that if I post your message this will confirm that the Jailor is alive, right? A lot of people are suspect, but don't actually know that you're alive (many think you were Archangel).

JAILOR:

I HAVE NOT CAUGHT ANY THIEVES

GOOD POINT

DO NOT POST THE MESSAGE OR CLAIM THAT YOU WERE JAILED

IF I NEED HELP DEFENDING MYSELF I WILL CLAIM MASON UNLESS LUNA OR MASON RECRUIT REVEAL THE MASON RECRUIT TO TOWN

YOU WILL KNOW WHO I AM BY THE INVISIBLE DOT

I DO NOT WANT MAFIA OR ARSON LOOKING FOR ME

JAILOR:

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN JAILED BEFORE IN YOUR FM EXPERIENCE?

COPY AND PASTE THE THREAD BEFORE NIGHT ENDS

YOU WILL NOT SEE THIS AFTER THE NIGHT ENDS

NARKS:

No, I have not been jailed before in FM.

I have copied the contents of this chat into Microsoft Word.

And gotcha. If you quote me with a dot or claim Mason with a dot, I will know who you are and defend you. However, you are right. If Luna and/or her recruit claim, you will not be able to claim Mason.

NARKS:

If I am forced to claim jailed (i.e. - your target had immunity for the night results for some people) or if Luna theorizes that I was in jail and people ask me, should I do so?

If so, I can then post your message for all to see. Just a precautionary measure in case a mafia tries to shoot me and claims Vigilante or something.

JAILOR:

YES YOU MAY

JAILOR:

WHO DO YOU THINK I AM?

NARKS:

Honestly, I have no clue. I only started to think about the Jailor towards the end of the day (when I re-read the FAQ and Order of Operations, realizing that the Jailor could not die to the Veteran. He jails before the Veteran goes on alert. And I'm the one that asked that question. =\).

I would really laugh if you were Echonian.

Naturally, I would assume you would be someone pro-town who enjoys scum hunting. NorthStar or FalseTruth, maybe. Usually a Jailor also asks about themselves (from the previous FMs I've read), so maybe Goremancer or Zack? I think Zack would be too much of a risk, though.

Some Jailors seem aggresive in their posting. Maybe Ganondorf/Plato?

Or a frequent contributor. Ambient/Dark.Revenant/Nick/Kevinpowers/Goonswarm?


JAILOR:

NO COMMENT

I ALSO NEED TO KNOW UNSUCCESSFUL MASON ATTEMPTS

PUT A BACK SLASH INSTEAD OF A DOT FOR UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS

NARKS:

Will do.

Also, the GM has answered my question:

*Re: Question
Quote Originally Posted by fm Narks
If I am released from Jail tonight will I be informed if anyone has joined the Masons (successfully recruited)?
You'll be able to see the masons chat once again, I keep it updated will all new recruit announced in the welcome page. *

NARKS:

I'm now leaning towards you being Ganondorf/Suicidaln00b.

Not only would you be asking about yourself, but those two spent an entire conversation talking about invisible ink the other day (and Ganondorf posted images in the invisible ink). I kept scouring n00b's posts all day to see if he left any invisible ink messages because of his Day 1 slip-up doing that.

NARKS:

Should I tell Luna this information? Or keep it to myself?

JAILOR:

TELL HER EVERYTHING

JAILOR:

I AM CONSIDERING RELEASING YOU BECAUSE YOU CLAIMED MASON INSTEAD OF MASON LEADER

A SCUM WOULD HAVE CLAIMED MASON LEADER SO I WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED YOU

IF I RELEASE YOU BUT IF YOU OR ANOTHER MASON WANT TO BE JAILED AGAIN FOR WHATEVER REASON SAY "SON OF A BEACH BALL" ONCE

I WILL SEE IF I CAN JAIL YOU AT THAT TIME

NOTICE THERE IS NO DISGUISER CODE

EITHER YOU ARE SCUM OR YOU ARE A MASON

ONLY A STUPID DISGUISER WOULD DISGUISE AS ANOTHER SCUM OR A MASON

NARKS:

Also, on the Disguiser note, as far as I know the earliest there can now be a Disguiser is on Night 5 (it takes 4 level ups to become a Disguiser and the Mafia failed to kill last night). Or would that be Night 6?

I also just noticed this from the Role Card List:


***[COLOR="#FF0000"][Framer]
*Inventory: None
Chose one of the following:

-Frame
The person you target will appear as a mafia role of your choice.
(Pick 5 roles, your target will appear as those 5)

Lvl 1-
Frame affects investigator and sheriff type actions (not lookout/detective types)

Lvl 2-
Frame affects investigator and sheriff type actions
If the target dies the same night, the frame will affect the graveyard information.

To Lvl up: Frame 2 people that get checked by detecting people.
You will Not be notified when you level up.

-Hide
The person you target will appear as any role of your choice.
(Pick 5 roles, your target will appear as those 5)

Lvl 1-
Hiding lasts only 1 night

Lvl 2-
Hiding lasts 2 nights

To Lvl up: Hide 1 mafia member the same night that they get checked by detecting people.
You will Not be notified when you level up. ***

We need to be aware that a member of the mafia has the potential to hide the identity of one of his fellow mafia members. This means that someone that is a prominent town figure (Lysergic, for example) could be "hidden" to look like one of the listed roles. The Framer gets to choose the roles, which means that the hidden mafia member will KNOW what role he can and cannot claim.

Until Lysergic makes a positive identification with his Private Eye claim we should not trust him. He is back on my watch list, along with Lysergic and HerrZynisch. Do I think they are mafia? No, but I will not discount the possibility that they could be working together.

Remember, it was Oops and ONLY Oops that figured out the identity of the only mafia member we know of. Not Kromos, not Lysergic, not HerrZynisch. Therefore, they should be cast under suspicion.




As for my Mason claim, which is true, the Mafia should have no trouble deducing that Luna is the Mason Leader. If they took what I said at face value (especially if they played with me before, since they know my COM name), they'll know I was a recruited Mason who was a Citizen. Since Luna is the only other Mason I mentioned, they'll figure out that she's the ML. Therefore, she is a high priority target for them tonight.

However, if they kill her they will confirm me as Mason. However, I will not be able to recruit for 3 nights (we get a new ML after 3 nights). Hopefully she remains alive tomorrow, as there are at least 9 Citizens left to recruit.

JAILOR:

THEN IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE FRAMERS AND THE TOWN HAS SEEN THE EFFECTS OF THEM

EITHER YOU WERE FRAMED OR CAPITALIER WAS LYING

ITS MORE LIKELY THAT YOU WERE FRAMED

AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A FRAMER HIDING LYSERGIC

VERY GOOD

BRING THIS UP TOMORROW

NARKS:

Will do.

A Framer may also try and hide Oops_ur_dead if he is actually the Hooker (since there can be more than one Escort and the real Escort will not want to reveal). However, there have been no others claim of role-blocked other than 1 per day, so I still believe Oops.

JAILOR:

THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY OF NO ESCORT IN THE SET UP

THAT WOULD MEAN THAT OOPS IS MAFIA

TO VERIFY ALL TOWN POWER ROLES NEED TO REVEAL

VERY LITTLE REWARD FOR SO MUCH RISK

I DO NOT RECOMMEND

NARKS:

Well, we've got about one hour to go. I don't know if you'll be able to read this post in time (that is, if I am released).

I'll be on the lookout for your reveal, just in case. If Luna has recruited someone new, I will quote them with the invisible ink dot.

I have a feeling Luna and I will be asked about recruiting someone new (especially if Luna tried to recruit a town power role. They will most certainly ask us so that they can confirm our identity). I'll try to remain vague about their identity (just confirming that, indeed, we recruited someone new. Not who they are) so that you can still use it as a fallback option. If I survive until tomorrow night [here's hoping I wasn't doused Night 2...], I will reveal all of this information to the other Masons. If Luna is still alive, then you will be able to claim Mason every night thereafter to save yourself.

(Also, if you ever claim Mason, make sure to do the invisible ink dot so I know it is you.)

I will bring up the Framing possibility and his ability to hide other mafia members. I will wait a few hours before bringing it up so that we can see Investigation results and sift through them accordingly (otherwise, people may be hesitant to post anything for fear that their results were compromised). Unless you suggest otherwise, that is.

I will only reveal the Jailor still being in play if I am forced to reveal that I was jailed or if Luna questions it outloud, along with your note to the Thieves.

Also, things may get tricky trying to defend you as Mason if we attempted to convert a Mafia member to the Masons, as they will vehemently say that I am lying. In this situation, we must exercise extreme caution. Luna may be able to back me up, but if things get dicey should I let the lynch on me go through or should I reveal that you are jailor/or some other important town role?