S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

[powerofdeath]

S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3


Player List:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Mizery
3. Cape90 - Evil Flower Child
4. MartinGG99
5. Scumbot5679
6. Auwt - Door Salesman
7. Luka
8. bakermir - Teacher
9. Helz
10. Dark Magician
11. oliverz144
12. Huo Huo and Mr Tail
13. lilypetal - Sapling
14. bwcPorscha - Wild Card
15. Varcron - Ghost

White = Alive, Color = Dead with Role reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.

Game will begin Monday 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference. (https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/4620355/game-start)

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Links to EoD will be found below:

Link to Night 1 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=994386#post994386)
Link to Night 2 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=995139#post995139)
Link to Night 3 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=995893#post995893)

[powerofdeath]

S-FM Nonstandard Roles 3

Role List:
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town/Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral

Possible Roles:
Mafia roles: Fabricator; Evil Flower Child; Shadow; Evil Vengeful; Evil Pacifist; Janitor; Evil Parrot; Evil Cat Lady; Blackmailer
Town roles: Gambler; Pacifist; Night Watchman; Tough Guy; Soul Mate; Sapling; Flower Child; Vengeful; Fancy Lady; Judge; Bully; Grave Robber; Door Salesman; Detector; Parrot; Bride; Cat Lady; Teacher
Neutral roles: Werewolf; Evil Teacher; Corruptor; Bounty Hunter; Ghost; Monk; Wild Card

Role Card:


Fabricator - Visit one person every night. That person will receive an additional fake feedback of your choice. Cannot use Corruptor's Feedback.

Evil Flower Child - During the day, choose a player to be prevented from lynching. This will be hidden and not take effect/use up the charge until the person is successfully lynched. 1x use only. It will be announced at end of the day that the person was protected. Can target self.

Shadow - Once per game you can double your team's votes during the day, while hiding all votes. (All votes for the rest of the day will become 100% anonymous. Nobody will know the vote count. All I will announce is who got lynched at the end of the day).

Evil Vengeful - You may select another player to be also killed when you are killed by any means. You must choose while alive, and may change your targets as many times as you like. The effect will trigger immediately upon death.

Evil Pacifist - Once per game you may publicly reveal a player's role to the entire game. This must be done during the day. However once you use your ability, nobody can be lynched during this day. (Day will be skipped with no lynch). Cannot target self.

Janitor - Once per game during the night you may choose to thoroughly clean the entire town. All players that die that night, and the following day (including lynching) will be cleaned, and their roles will remain hidden.

Evil Parrot - Visit a player each night. If your target have a night action, you will use the same night action on your target. Cannot target self.

Evil Cat Lady - During the day give a player a cat. At night the player may choose to either let the cat out and be roleblocked for the night, or let the cat stay, and have the Evil Cat Lady learn your role. (If your target is indecisive, the default is cat will stay for the night).

Blackmailer - Visit a player each night and blackmail them. This will prevent them from speaking or voting during the day. It will be publicly announced that your target was blackmailed. Cannot target teammates. Cannot target same player twice in a row.


Gambler - Visit a player and guess their alignment to see if you are correct or not. You may either guess if they are a member of the mafia, a member of the town, or if they are neutral third party. If you guess wrong, your identity will be revealed to the mafia.

Pacifist - Once per game you may publicly reveal a player's role to the entire game. This must be done during the day. However once you use your ability, nobody can be lynched during this day. (Day will be skipped with no lynch). Cannot target self.

Night Watchman - Thrice per game you may protect a player from dying. You can use your ability multiple times in a single night or spread them out in separate nights. Cannot target self.

Tough Guy - Visit and protect a player from dying at night. If your target is attacked, you and your attacker will see each others' roles. You will die at the end of the day. Cannot target self.

Soul Mate - Visit and protect a player from dying at night. If your target is attacked, your target will learn your identity and role, and you are bound to your target. Once bound, you may not visit again and if you OR the person you're bound to get attacked again, both of you will die. Cannot target self.

Sapling - Power in vote. Each night you may choose to grow into a tree. Once you become a tree, you cannot vote, and you will become deathproof. You will no longer count toward the town's majority for the purpose of Mafia trying to achieve 51% majority/Killers achieving 50% majority.

Flower Child - During the day, choose a player to be prevented from lynching. This will be hidden and not take effect/use up the charge until the person is successfully lynched. 1x use only. It will be announced at end of the day that the person was protected. Can target self.

Vengeful - You may select another player to be also killed when you are killed by any means. You must choose while alive, and may change your targets as many times as you like. The effect will trigger immediately upon death.

Fancy Lady - You may visit a player at night. When visiting a player, you become immune from being attacked. If your target is not sided with town, you will die, and it will be announced that you died visiting an evil player. If your target is killed at night, you will die and it will be announced that you died visiting a player that got killed. Cannot target self.

Judge - If nobody is lynched, you may overturn it to a living player of your choice. However if you tried to lynch a town, town will riot and lynch you instead. It will be announced at the end of the day that you tried to judge someone, and who got judged.

Bully - During the day, give a person a wedgie. This will prevent them from voting for the day and prevent them from taking any night actions that night. If they already placed a vote, their vote will no longer count. Wedgies are public, but Bully’s identity will remain hidden.

Grave Robber - The first town that die, you become their role. At night, you may forfeit your role, and revert back to being a grave robber. This will prevent you from taking any night actions. You will not revert back to being a graverobber until the start of the following day.

Door Salesman - Visit a player each night. If they die that night you gain 1 extra vote permanently. You can stack infinity.

Detector - Passively learn all roles that visit you each night. Once per game you may also learn the identity of each roles that visit you that night.

Parrot - Visit a player each night. If your target have a night action, you will use the same night action on your target. Cannot target self. You cannot visit the same person twice in a row.

Bride - During the day, you may give a proposal to another player. If they accept the proposal, you both see each others role and become lover. When one of you die, the other die. This will not affect either of your win conditions. If they deny the proposal, the target will be publicly revealed as someone who denied the proposal. They have 24 hours to accept the proposal.

Cat Lady - During the day give a player a cat. At night the player may choose to either let the cat out and be roleblocked for the night, or let the cat stay, and have the Cat Lady learn your role. (If your target is indecisive, the default is cat will stay for the night).

Teacher - Choose 2 players at night. Learn if their alignments match or not. (Mafia/Town/neutral). Cannot target self.


Werewolf - Visit a player to guess a player's exact role each night. If the werewolf was correct, the player will be devoured. The werewolf will become kill immune and lynch immune for 1 night and day cycle. If the werewolf was incorrect, the werewolf dies.

Evil Teacher - Choose 2 players at night. If their alignment don't match, they both will die. You may choose yourself and someone else. If they don't match your Neutral Alignment, only they will die.(Mafia/Town/Neutral). You cannot be killed by the Mafia.

Corruptor - Each night you can visit a player to glitch. That player won't be able to speak, vote, or use their role abilities the following day, and will die at the end of the day. Their roles will remain completely hidden on flip. When Corruptor die, any living players that was glitched will unglitch themselves and may resume the game normally. Players being protected cannot be glitched. You cannot be killed by the Mafia.

Bounty Hunter - Each odd nights visit a player and place a bounty on them. The bounty will prevent them from being killed at night. The bounty will be announced at the start of the day. If they are not lynched within 3 days, the bounty hunter become pernamently immune to kills and lynching. End the game with a victory the second time this happen.

Ghost - You must die by any means or forms. Once killed, you must see your killer's faction lose. When you are killed, you may haunt a player during the day to learn their alignment and role. You will have 100% complete control over their actions/role card until the start of following day. Target will not know they were haunted until the start of the following day. Being lynched will always result in wanting to see Town's faction lose. In an event of multiple killers, it will go in order of: Town > Mafia > Evil Teacher > Werewolf.

Monk - Visit a player and protect them from dying each night. During the night, predict a player who might get lynched. If they are lynched, protect them from being lynched during the day. It will be announced at end of the day that the person was protected. Exit with a win when you successfully protect a total of 3 players. Can target self. You cannot save a person that is marked with a bounty.

Wild Card - Anyone that visit you become wild. Anyone that you visit become wild. Win when everyone ALIVE are wild. You can never be wild yourself. You may pick any roles in the rolelist during the day and become that role for the rest of the day and following night. However your actions are incapable of killing anyone. Upon death, you have the ability to choose 1 more person to become Wild. (Being Wild in general does nothing except to achieve wincon for Wild Card).


Order of Operations:
1. Release the Cat
2. Fancy Lady Visit
3. Fabricator/Parrot/Night Watchman/Tough Guy/Soul Mate/Monk
4. Mafia/Werewolf/Evil Teacher kills
5. Blackmailer/Gambler/Door Salesman/Teacher/Bounty Hunter
6. Corruptor
7. Sapling Grow into Trees/Grave Robber Reverts back

Feedback:

You found a cat in your house. You must choose to either let the cat out, and be roleblocked for the night, or let the cat stay, and the Cat Lady will learn your role.


You cat came back to you, reporting that (Name) is (Role).


You are blackmailed. You cannot speak or vote today.


Your alignment's guess is correct.


Your alignment's guess is incorrect. The Mafia now know your identity!


(Name), the Gambler lost the gamble and went in debt and they owe the Mafia a lot of money.


You fought off your attacker: (Name) the (Role). You are bleeding to death, and will die at the end of the day.


(Name) the Tough Guy fought you off from killing your target.


You failed to kill your target as they were protected last night!


You fought off your attacker, and you are now bound to your target.


(Name), the Soul Mate, fought off your attacker, and is now bound to you.


You received a wedgie! You can no longer vote for the rest of the day. You cannot perform any night actions this night.


(Role), (Role), (Role)... visited you last night.


(Name and Role), (Name and Role), (Name and Role)... visited you last night.


(Name), the Bride proposed to you. You have 24 hours to decide if you want to accept the proposal. If you do not answer/Deny the proposal, it will be publicly revealed that you denied the proposal. If you accept the proposal, you and the Bride will learn each other's roles and become lover. As a lover, if one of you die, the other dies as well. This will not affect your win conditions.


(Name and Role) accepted your proposal. You are now in love with them. As a lover, if one of you die, the other dies as well. This will not affect your win conditions.


Your targets have matching alignments.


Your targets do not have matching alignments.


You successfully devoured your target. You are deathproof for 1 day and night cycle.


You have been glitched. You cannot speak or vote today. You will die at the end of the day and your role will remain hidden.


The Corruptor is dead. You are no longer glitched.


You successfully died. You now must see (Alignment) lose.


You learned that you were possessed by a ghost last night.


You haunted (Name). Their role is (Role). You have 100% complete control over their actions/role card until the start of the following day.


You successfully protected your target. You only need X more protections to win!


(Name) is now wild!


You successfully became (Role).


You successfully grew into a big beautiful tree.


You successfully reverted back to being a Grave Robber.

Mechanics:
Days are 48 hours. Nights are 24 hours.
Game start on Day 1 with a lynch.

All Neutral Roles are 100% unique. There will not be duplicate of Neutral Roles. There may be duplicate of Town and Mafia Roles.

Mafia share 24/7 chat. Mafia can decide who to send to perform a factional kill. Mafia can still perform their rolecard alongwith performing the factional kill.

Plurality vote will be used. Not voting will count as Skipping the Day. Hammering does not lynch the person or end the day. Whoever have the most votes by 48 hours will be voted out. In an event of a tie, the day is skipped.

Death Notes/Last Wills are not allowed. Roles/Alignments will be revealed upon death, but you will not know what killed them(unless stated otherwise).

Rules:
You must have discord to play. Add me powerofdeath#0997.
No editing, no deleting posts
No videos
Cannot mention anything at all from your DMs with the host. This may result in a modkill depend on severity.
If you have questions, do not hesitate to ask me on discord. If you have questions you wanted to be answered publicly ask in GREEN TEXT and I will answer them.
No cheating, contacting out of game, or playing against your win condition.
You must post at least five times every 24 hours interval. You will receive 1 warning, and will be replaced if this happen the second time. (Unless a role is preventing you from speaking).
In an event of a replacement, I may extend day by 24 more hours. (This only apply if replacement occurs within 18 hours of EotD.)

Win Condition:
Mafia: Gain 50% Majority. Must see Werewolf/Evil Teacher/Corruptor killed as well. Alternately you win with a victory if a living member of the Mafia survive to see all Town/Werewolf/Evil Teacher/Corruptor killed even if you have yet to achieve 50% majority. Victory will end the game.
Town: Have one living member (No Trees) survive to see All Mafia/Werewolf/Evil Teacher/Corruptor killed. Victory will end the game.
Werewolf: Gain 50% Majority. Victory will end the game.
Evil Teacher: Gain 50% Majority. Victory will end the game.
Corruptor: Gain 50% Majority. Victory will end the game.
Bounty Hunter: Win when 2 bounties do not get lynched on time. Victory will end the game.
Ghost: Die and see your killer's faction Lose. Victory does not end the game.
Monk: Successfully protect a total of 3 players. Victory does not end the game.
Wild Card: Win when all living players are wild. Victory does not end the game.

[powerofdeath]

Small Announcement
Day 1 will last 48 hours as usual. Night 1 will last 48 hours as well, to allow Americans celebrate their Thanksgiving holidays. Future days will still last 48 hours. Night 2 and beyond will resort back to being 24 hours.

[powerofdeath]

NOTICE!

For those who are new to the website, here is a quick tutorial on how to vote, how to view vote count, how to view ISOs, and how to view voting history. All you gotta do is click on this. (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51032-S-FM-352-Silent-Night-2?p=988728#post988728)

NOTICE!

If you have further questions related to this, please do not hesistate to contact me on discord (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51032-S-FM-352-Silent-Night-2?p=988728#post988728)

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51032-S-FM-352-Silent-Night-2?p=988728#post988728


NOTICE!

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[powerofdeath]

Day 1 has begun!

Day 1 end on Wednesday, 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference to when Day 1 end. (https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/4623348/day-1-end-time)

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to DMs me on Discord or via the website. If you want anything answered publicly in this thread, please ask your question in GREEN COLOR.

[Mizery]

whoo doggie

[Marshmallow Marshall]

/detonate

ITS MY TURN

[Lilypetal]

Hai

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Varcron

The tradition must be upholden for the sake of the universe's stability.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Hi! Nice to meet you all uwu I hope we can get along and find the ugly mafiosos :3

-Huohuo

[Mizery]

I'm sick and my gf brought home lentil soup, seltzer water, and seaweed on her way back from work

I don't understand the seaweed part

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I'm sick and my gf brought home lentil soup, seltzer water, and seaweed on her way back from work

I don't understand the seaweed part

Seaweed contains a lot of vitamins and minerals, it'll do you good :3

-Huohuo

[Dark Magician]

My Magic will Consume you all!

[Luka]

Marshall had a good thread entrance, town lean
Dark magician ur an old man dont kid anybody tearlament the new craze

[Dark Magician]

I’m not old.
I am still quite a young man.

[Helz]

Was not expecting this to kick off so fast.

I have not been told a role yet but I am here and such. Expect limited participation from me on turkey day and the 24th. Will post again when I know what I am and such. Love the signup list and I am looking forward to playing with everyone : )

[MartinGG99]

FOR THOSE WHO GLAZED OVER IT BTW: Night 1 will be 48 hours long. Other than that this game (at the time of writing) is the usual 48/24.

Tbh I'm personally planning to lay back for the most part till day 2. I'm not sure beyond that, my mood might change.

Lately I've been enjoying Risk of Rain Returns as well as Lethal Company streams, and don't really want to stress myself out over anything this week for undisclosed reasons.

[MartinGG99]

You must post at least five times every 24 hours interval. You will receive 1 warning, and will be replaced if this happen the second time. (Unless a role is preventing you from speaking).


have to keep this in mind though

[Helz]

Lately I've been enjoying Risk of Rain Returns as well as Lethal Company streams, and don't really want to stress myself out over anything this week for undisclosed reasons.

: )

[bwcPorscha]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

[bwcPorscha]

your response to this question will be deemed alignment indicative, choose wisely

[bakermir]

oh yeah this should have started after thanksgiving :wondering:

[bakermir]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

probably not in the past 15 years

have you?

[bwcPorscha]

probably not in the past 15 years

have you?

yes of course, that is why I am asking about it

you have lost or gained points based on your response. thank you for your participation!

[Lilypetal]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

omg hiiii

[Lilypetal]

i havent actually but now i have i guess

[bakermir]

Hai


thank you again for joining. looking forward to your cook :love:




Varcron

The tradition must be upholden for the sake of the universe's stability.

Varcron

Sounds good to me





Hi! Nice to meet you all uwu I hope we can get along and find the ugly mafiosos :3

-Huohuo


Hello, first time seeing you, welcome!! Is this an archon/hydra account btw?

[bakermir]

yes of course, that is why I am asking about it

you have lost or gained points based on your response. thank you for your participation!

wait why?

[bakermir]

I'm sick and my gf brought home lentil soup, seltzer water, and seaweed on her way back from work

I don't understand the seaweed part

Lentil soup is kind of a mediterranean thing. It is one of my fav soups to make 10/10

Have we played before btw?



Marshall had a good thread entrance, town lean
Dark magician ur an old man dont kid anybody tearlament the new craze

get a pfp Luka this is your second game and still nothing smhg



My Magic will Consume you all!

How was your vacation DM

[scumbot5679]

Marshall had a good thread entrance, town lean

ok but how is it good other than it being slightly funny?

I don't get the lential soup either. Jewish Penicillin is the way I and most everyone go to when they are sick. Maybe Mizzy and her girl are vegan/health concious type folk wich would explain why they went for not chicken noodle.

[Cape90]

Was kinda hoping this game would start later because I am a busy bee this Thanksgiving week in America

Sup?

[Cape90]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

I'd imagine quite painful.

But honestly I haven't had this thought until now, thanks Porscha

[Cape90]

oh yeah this should have started after thanksgiving :wondering:

like bruh im literally vacationing with family...

[bwcPorscha]

i havent actually but now i have i guess

you are welcome for the new inquiry!

you have lost or gained points based on your answer. thank for participating!

[bwcPorscha]

wait why?

I dunno. It used to be in the media all the time. Challenges for people to do to win money or prove their mental game is fucking impeccable. Just used to be shown in a bunch of stuff. Made me think about it. You BRI'ISH probably didn't have the same media experience.

[bwcPorscha]

I'd imagine quite painful.

But honestly I haven't had this thought until now, thanks Porscha

You are super duper welcome for the inquiry!

You have lost or gained points based on your answer. Thank you for participating!

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

thank you again for joining. looking forward to your cook :love:





Varcron

Sounds good to me







Hello, first time seeing you, welcome!! Is this an archon/hydra account btw?

Thank you! First time in sc2 uwu

And no this is not a hydra account, Mr Tail is my tail, jist that's been possesed by a fox Hiliobi

But thank you for asking, it makes having to explain myself less complicated :3

-Huohuo

if anyone ever tries to hurt Huohuo, they will have to fucking deal with me, I need my vessel after all.

-Mr Tail

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I wonder what bwc's question has to do with anything game related

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

But sounds scary, so no uwu

[Cape90]

I wonder what bwc's question has to do with anything game related

-Huohuo

i think it's very game related

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

i think it's very game related

Could you explain me how? Please

-Huohuo

[Dark Magician]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

A real “hot” situation.

[Dark Magician]

Could you explain me how? Please

-Huohuo

Everyone has their own way of figuring stuff out.
I don’t like your refusal to cooperate here.
Could be wolf not wanting to take a chance on being wolf read due to giving a bad answer.

[oliverz144]

S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3


Player List:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Mizery
3. Cape90
4. MartinGG99
5. Scumbot5679
6. Auwt
7. Luka
8. bakermir
9. Helz
10. Dark Magician
11. oliverz144
12. Huo Huo and Mr Tail
13. lilypetal
14. bwcPorscha
15. Varcron

White = Alive, Color = Dead with Role reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.

Game will begin Monday 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference. (https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/4620355/game-start)

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Links to EoD will be found below:



hello
im alive
im town
my laptop just made random ass noises while startin up coz the motherboard fan failed- crazy ass 1700 dollar miss investment

[oliverz144]

oh and the coca cola 3000 ai shit is awful i almost puked

[oliverz144]

Hi! Nice to meet you all uwu I hope we can get along and find the ugly mafiosos :3

-Huohuo

huo huo and mr tail

[Helz]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

Yes. Also use to (and still do) juggle lit coals as a party trick when I host fires at my house

[Helz]

After giving it some thought ima go for the D1 claim given the utility of my role. I am a Bride. My role is mechanically confirmable and has no evil pairing. I can simply propose to someone and they can reject my proposal for the host to announce it happened which would confirm my alignment.

Debated on using it in a more subtle way but I honestly hold the utility of a paired death as more detrimental to the town than useful while simply playing as confirmed town has its perks in quite a few ways. The night wifom with this roles list has lots of potential although I am basically betting against the existence of a Bounty Hunter. (Honestly hope there is no bounty hunter. I dislike those kind of mechanics..) Werewolf is less of an issue given the OoO

[Mizery]

have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet

look at this girl she's so quirky and different with her completely wild opener that's so off topic

[Mizery]

ok but how is it good other than it being slightly funny?

I don't get the lential soup either. Jewish Penicillin is the way I and most everyone go to when they are sick. Maybe Mizzy and her girl are vegan/health concious type folk wich would explain why they went for not chicken noodle.

googled and jewish penicillin looks like it's just chicken noodle soup but with matzo balls instead of noodles, and in fact my mother did bring me some of that when she learned i was sick but my father had eaten the soup part so all i have are the matzo balls

lentil soup is my favorite soup that's why she got me some
I like split pea too

[Mizery]

either way def not health couscous because without me she'd be eating taco bell three times a day

[Mizery]

also bakermir unless you have a different name somewhere else I don't think we've played together.

[Mizery]

BWCporscha is gonna give me nightmares

[Mizery]

Have we played before btw?


I thought not tbh, but my gf told me that I have played with you before even though i don't remember it

[Mizery]

Kinda sad no one else is here rn

[Auwt]

G'day everyone.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well well, I had expected to come back to more than this lol. I have little time at the moment, but will pop in throughout the day as my life allows.


Marshall had a good thread entrance, town lean
Dark magician ur an old man dont kid anybody tearlament the new craze

How did I have a good thread entrance, exactly? This is the kind of statement that requires explanations. You must make your pocket warm and cosy before I jump in it.

Also, please get an avatar so that we can recognize you more easily: we want to know who we will detona-- I mean uhh... you get it! :)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I really spelled cozy with an S... welp, thank you, sleep deprivation xD

Also, SEAWEED IS GOOD, MIZERY. Eat seaweed. It's great in soup. It's great in itself. Seaweed. Yum.


have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet
Yes. Once in my life, i.e. the first time I ever heard about it. That... would be about it.

your response to this question will be deemed alignment indicative, choose wisely

o k

Have you ever thought about who could be scum? :P
"yes, you" is not a valid answer

~~

I dislike Lilypetal coming in, saying one kinda irrelevant thing that also isn't meant to be a funny inquiry that could spark interesting reactions ("omg hiii, I haven't [thought about it] but now i have i guess" really doesn't do... anything), and disappearing afterwards. There were things to comment on OR attempts to be funny to be made, but none of that happened. Thus, it COULD be that she wanted to just... appear, exist, but didn't know how to react to being scum - i.e., early wolf freeze.

Lilypetal
Welcome :P
Any interesting thoughts to share? What's your experience with mafia?

[oliverz144]

have to keep this in mind though

haha yeah same (postfarm)

[oliverz144]

wait why?

by asking the question... you immediately think about it.
like an cognitohazard, or "the game".

YOU ARE NOW BLINKING MANUALLY.
YOU ARE NOW BREATHING MANUALLY.

[Mizery]

Lean town on MM so far

[Cape90]

Gonna be unoriginal and yoink the same read that Mizery has on MM :p

[Cape90]

Could you explain me how? Please

-Huohuo

Yeah so

[Cape90]

Had a breakfast sandwich this morning and went bowling :D

Was fun, my mom got a Turkey ironically since it's a couple days b4 Thanksgiving

[Cape90]

Alright fine i will make up some thoughts about the game :p

-Helz' claim thing looks decent, esp since his opening was strange already. It's one of those things that I feel like I shouldn't worry too much about

-Miz is leaning town honestly and that's mostly for their MM read + not liking when ppl weren't here

-Dark Magician pushing Huohuo seemed really strange to me off of the Porscha thing.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Everyone has their own way of figuring stuff out.
I don’t like your refusal to cooperate here.
Could be wolf not wanting to take a chance on being wolf read due to giving a bad answer.

I gave an answer Mr Magician

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

it's just that for example Mizery also came into the thread with off topic but! he is not framing it as game related while Bwc is framing it as very important and I don't really get why

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I also think Mr Marshmallow feels towny and will support his push on lilypetal because I agree with his points :3

Lilypetal

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Yeah so

HA! I knew you were full of shit boy, but I'll let it slide because you saw the same thing I did about the Black magician guy

-Mr Tail

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

are games in this site always so slow? >w<

-Huohuo

[scumbot5679]

My mom and I use Jewish penicillin and chicken noodle soup interchangeably. @ mizzy

[scumbot5679]

are games in this site always so slow? >w<

-Huohuo

yes

[Dark Magician]

Hey Cape.

You had wondering why I pushed Huo?
It’s more like I didn’t like their refusal of contributing.
Them answering Porscha’s question might have seemed pointless but it could help build someone’s read and Huo was refusing to help with Porscha’s read.

[Dark Magician]

I’m going to wolf lean MM for not being mean enough.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

yes
https://upload-os-bbs.hoyolab.com/upload/2023/11/17/5785226/09cbfc75857cb2f57af726f2af37cc73_32037419550360817 4.gif

[scumbot5679]

I gave an answer Mr Magician

-Huohuo

Are you saying that


But sounds scary, so no uwu

is your "answer"?

I think I misread this the first time. I came away thinking DM was sorta bad looking here. The "you didn't respond so you could be scum!" is just sort of...shallow. And assuming ^ is your "answer" then he kinda lied. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he missed so its not "proof" that he lied but eh...still not a great look

I don't think Porscha's q really has anything to do with the game but I think I know what's going on but not going to blurt out the answer yet and I sort of feel like DM line "Everyone has their own way of figuring stuff out." might mean we are on the same page here.

[scumbot5679]

not big on the Lily wagon. Maybe if she continues to do nothing we kill that but I'm not a big fan of Hou's sheep vote there

[scumbot5679]

Could you answer my question, Cape?

[Cape90]

Hey Cape.

You had wondering why I pushed Huo?
It’s more like I didn’t like their refusal of contributing.
Them answering Porscha’s question might have seemed pointless but it could help build someone’s read and Huo was refusing to help with Porscha’s read.

Do you genuinely think it actually helps Porscha in answering that question? Like I don't necessarily see why it would

[Cape90]

Could you answer my question, Cape?

You haven't asked me a question.

I am neither Luka or Huohuo

[oliverz144]

Alright fine i will make up some thoughts about the game :p

-Helz' claim thing looks decent, esp since his opening was strange already. It's one of those things that I feel like I shouldn't worry too much about

-Miz is leaning town honestly and that's mostly for their MM read + not liking when ppl weren't here

-Dark Magician pushing Huohuo seemed really strange to me off of the Porscha thing.

cape helz scum team

[Helz]

cape helz scum team

What lead you to that conclusion?

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

G'day everyone.

oh why hello Mr auwt!, any thoughts you want to share? :3

-Huohuo

[Cape90]

cape helz scum team

damn u caught us

i mean Helz is claiming self-confirmable so if that's a lie, we just yeet him into the sun unless I am misunderstanding what he has said


After giving it some thought ima go for the D1 claim given the utility of my role. I am a Bride. My role is mechanically confirmable and has no evil pairing. I can simply propose to someone and they can reject my proposal for the host to announce it happened which would confirm my alignment.

Debated on using it in a more subtle way but I honestly hold the utility of a paired death as more detrimental to the town than useful while simply playing as confirmed town has its perks in quite a few ways. The night wifom with this roles list has lots of potential although I am basically betting against the existence of a Bounty Hunter. (Honestly hope there is no bounty hunter. I dislike those kind of mechanics..) Werewolf is less of an issue given the OoO

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Are you saying that



is your "answer"?

I think I misread this the first time. I came away thinking DM was sorta bad looking here. The "you didn't respond so you could be scum!" is just sort of...shallow. And assuming ^ is your "answer" then he kinda lied. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he missed so its not "proof" that he lied but eh...still not a great look

I don't think Porscha's q really has anything to do with the game but I think I know what's going on but not going to blurt out the answer yet and I sort of feel like DM line "Everyone has their own way of figuring stuff out." might mean we are on the same page here.

yes Mr doggy, that was indeed my answer :3

-Huohuo

[Cape90]

oh why hello Mr auwt!, any thoughts you want to share? :3

-Huohuo

you are asking someone who has been gone for hours

why?

[scumbot5679]

You haven't asked me a question.

I am neither Luka or Huohuo
correct, for some reason I thought that you were the one that declared MM's entrance to be the best thing since sliced bread but it was in fact Luka.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

you are asking someone who has been gone for hours

why?

because I missed the post and I wanted to say hi uwu

-Huohuo

[Mizery]

My mom and I use Jewish penicillin and chicken noodle soup interchangeably. @ mizzy

why

[MartinGG99]

are games in this site always so slow? >w<

-Huohuo

Most of the time yes (you can expect something like ~300-400 posts for a day 1) but those games are generally smaller than this.

I think its because of thanksgiving week most people are being laid back and not caring as much as they normally would -- I am particularly guilty of this.

[scumbot5679]

why

b/c they are basically the same thing.

[MartinGG99]

damn u caught us

i mean Helz is claiming self-confirmable so if that's a lie, we just yeet him into the sun unless I am misunderstanding what he has said

Decent chance he's town and isn't lying. I mean, aside from the confirmation part, his early smiling act while quoting one line I said gave me town vibes. I'm honestly kinda disappointed that he has something to confirmable to claim though. I was looking forward to seeing if I could solve them since they sorta rarely appear in our games yet is generally vey skillful.

[Varcron]

I'll be real with you guys just checking in today so I don't get activity slapped. Be more active tomorrow but i'll respond to some little stuff in the bit of time I have

[Varcron]

I just realized bakermir is in the game and I haven't seen them for years like wtf

[Varcron]

I’m going to wolf lean MM for not being mean enough.

GOOFY

MM isn't that mean though so idk where you're coming from here tbh

[Varcron]

honestly surprised there arnt that many posts with ~15 people nearly 24 hours in, very low activity game considering some of the people in here.

[Helz]

damn u caught us

i mean Helz is claiming self-confirmable so if that's a lie, we just yeet him into the sun unless I am misunderstanding what he has said
Thats what struck me about that pairing. To call a player who has claimed they can mechanically confirm their alignment is odd. Makes me question if there was any reasoning or they were just making such a statement to appear like they are hunting. Its slightly out of place imo.

oliverz144

[Varcron]

I really spelled cozy with an S... welp, thank you, sleep deprivation xD

Also, SEAWEED IS GOOD, MIZERY. Eat seaweed. It's great in soup. It's great in itself. Seaweed. Yum.


Yes. Once in my life, i.e. the first time I ever heard about it. That... would be about it.


o k

Have you ever thought about who could be scum? :P
"yes, you" is not a valid answer

~~

I dislike Lilypetal coming in, saying one kinda irrelevant thing that also isn't meant to be a funny inquiry that could spark interesting reactions ("omg hiii, I haven't [thought about it] but now i have i guess" really doesn't do... anything), and disappearing afterwards. There were things to comment on OR attempts to be funny to be made, but none of that happened. Thus, it COULD be that she wanted to just... appear, exist, but didn't know how to react to being scum - i.e., early wolf freeze.

Lilypetal
Welcome :P
Any interesting thoughts to share? What's your experience with mafia?

Damn this is a bit of a reach with barely any posts to go off of lol. I'm not completely sure I agree with the take here because temperature testing is a valid way of doing things even if we don't necessarily agree with it.

[Helz]

MartinGG99
If I propose to you can you please decline it for the public conformation?

[MartinGG99]

re-read what we've had since everyone's posted (meaning some neutrals and wolves have posted for sure by now)

helz prob town
cape prob town
miz lean town

dm slight lean wolf
mm seems a bit performative

[MartinGG99]

MartinGG99
If I propose to you can you please decline it for the public conformation?

I have no reason to accept the confirmation, so if any bride in the game sent me one I would never accept it.

[MartinGG99]

Damn this is a bit of a reach with barely any posts to go off of lol. I'm not completely sure I agree with the take here because temperature testing is a valid way of doing things even if we don't necessarily agree with it.

guess I add varcron as lean town too to my recently-posted list

[Mizery]

I mean no one should accept the proposal if proposed to unless helz is dead

[Auwt]

The last time MM and I were on a same team was almost 2 years and a half ago.
Let's see if this game is going to prove me wrong... or not.
I know what color is my role so...
Safe bet for day 1, at least for now.
Also my apologies for my inactivity.

Marshmallow Marshall

[Helz]

I have no reason to accept the confirmation, so if any bride in the game sent me one I would never accept it.

Rejecting it gives public confirmation. All I am really looking for.

[Helz]

I have no reason to accept the confirmation, so if any bride in the game sent me one I would never accept it.

Anyways. A proposal should be coming your way whenever the host gets around to it. One less person in the game to be sorted by everyone.

[Mizery]

I might call cape a wolf but i won't right now

[powerofdeath]

Announcement!

A bride was rejected. Heartbroken by this, they exposed that MartinGG99 has denied their proposal.

[MartinGG99]

Have declined/denied it.

Also,

marshmallow marshall

die more sweet and squishy version of myself



its an inside joke

[Luka]

FOR THOSE WHO GLAZED OVER IT BTW: Night 1 will be 48 hours long. Other than that this game (at the time of writing) is the usual 48/24.

Tbh I'm personally planning to lay back for the most part till day 2. I'm not sure beyond that, my mood might change.

Lately I've been enjoying Risk of Rain Returns as well as Lethal Company streams, and don't really want to stress myself out over anything this week for undisclosed reasons.

I like risk of rain 2 better

[Luka]

Lentil soup is kind of a mediterranean thing. It is one of my fav soups to make 10/10

Have we played before btw?




get a pfp Luka this is your second game and still nothing smhg




How was your vacation DM

Im cooler without a pfp

[MartinGG99]

Might as well.

Lilypetal (2):
Marshmallow Marshall, Huo Huo and Mr Tail
Varcron (1):
bakermir
Huo Huo and Mr Tail (1):
oliverz144
oliverz144 (1):
Helz
Marshmallow Marshall (2):
Auwt, MartinGG99


FYI to all, non-votes count as skips in this game sooo at this rate we're not voting off anybody as we're missing eight votes. Honestly may be somewhat fine given the holidays and low-ish activity but aside from that its probably not good long-term to skip this day.

[Luka]

Lily Baker BWC town? Need to finish my catchup. Marshall as twell.
Lily and baker just due to gut
BWC had a really good start
Marshall had a solid OP

[MartinGG99]

I like risk of rain 2 better

my brain is too inferior to encompass the 3d gameplay of ror2, so I mostly only enjoy ror and rorr's 2d gameplay (but seriously though for some reason I never really got around to ror2 and delved deep into it -- I should at some point)

[Luka]

Have declined/denied it.

Also,

marshmallow marshall

die more sweet and squishy version of myself



its an inside joke

Why would you ever deny that lol

[Helz]

Announcement!

A bride was rejected. Heartbroken by this, they exposed that MartinGG99 has denied their proposal.

How could you Martin? I thought you loved me!

[MartinGG99]

Missed this


I mean no one should accept the proposal if proposed to unless helz is dead

well yeah, now that the bride is claimed

but in a universe where it wasn't claimed that may be different

I was just saying for me and my role that even in that universe I would never have good enough reason to accept it

[Helz]

Why would you ever deny that lol

Would you like to get married? I could use a good rebound to get over Martin

[Luka]

Well well, I had expected to come back to more than this lol. I have little time at the moment, but will pop in throughout the day as my life allows.



How did I have a good thread entrance, exactly? This is the kind of statement that requires explanations. You must make your pocket warm and cosy before I jump in it.

Also, please get an avatar so that we can recognize you more easily: we want to know who we will detona-- I mean uhh... you get it! :)

TwT I'll get one tonigth
As for the entrance part, you just seemed relaly happy and lax! Playing this game to have fun, chill, rather than paranoia scum often feels. In addition to that, I like early voting. Mizery town for that exact reason!

[Luka]

Would you like to get married? I could use a good rebound to get over Martin

I assume its a public role reveal? In which case I would gladly.

[Luka]

Test

[Helz]

Missed this



well yeah, now that the bride is claimed

but in a universe where it wasn't claimed that may be different

I was just saying for me and my role that even in that universe I would never have good enough reason to accept it

To be honest the only reason I could see myself actually using the function would be to leash a neutral to the town. Outside of that its more likely to do harm to the town than good.

[MartinGG99]

I assume its a public role reveal? In which case I would gladly.

what happens if Helz brides someone and they accept:

Helz learns the proposed person's role
proposed person learns that the bride that proposed to them was Helz (surprise surprise)

they both are now loves and mafia (or neutral killing if we have one of those) kills them for the double-kill

[Luka]

Dark Magicians push is horrible, just like there deck
I like the sheep on Msahmellow by Huo
[B]Town[B]
Helz
Marshmellow
BWC
Mizery
Huo

[Luka]

what happens if Helz brides someone and they accept:

Helz learns the proposed person's role
proposed person learns that the bride that proposed to them was Helz (surprise surprise)

they both are now loves and mafia (or neutral killing if we have one of those) kills them for the double-kill

Pinpoints the kill to one of two people for protectives, gives town 2 IC's whats bad about that

[Luka]

Its genuinly always >town
I would gladly accept in a heart beat

[MartinGG99]

TwT I'll get one tonigth
As for the entrance part, you just seemed relaly happy and lax! Playing this game to have fun, chill, rather than paranoia scum often feels. In addition to that, I like early voting. Mizery town for that exact reason!

Luka seems so simple in their reasoning along with this sort of energized tone I want to say lean town for d1 at least.

A small part of me fears that this is too simple of a read in-of-itself since its based on simpleness + tone and so I'm just making a fool of myself with it when Luka flipa mafia later in the game.

[Helz]

If anyone is a Fancy Lady they should just visit me every night. Im your guaranteed safe option.

[Luka]

I despise martin/mizery acting like thats -ev
its ++++ev
Theres a reason why admirer is the most busted role in TOS2. Double kill woopdy do we have 2 confirmed town

[Luka]

Luka seems so simple in their reasoning along with this sort of energized tone I want to say lean town for d1 at least.

A small part of me fears that this is too simple of a read in-of-itself since its based on simpleness + tone and so I'm just making a fool of myself with it when Luka flipa mafia later in the game.

Its early agme I'm not going to have great reasoning
I like the paranoia shown though; paranoia is normally town

[MartinGG99]

Pinpoints the kill to one of two people for protectives, gives town 2 IC's whats bad about that

I acknowledge that, but I stand by my firm belief that for me specifically agreeing to it would be very bad.

Also if Werewolf exists then everything goes to heck regardless. Given that werewolf dies if they're wrong, I assume the kill for being correct is unavoidable.



Werewolf - Visit a player to guess a player's exact role each night. If the werewolf was correct, the player will be devoured. The werewolf will become kill immune and lynch immune for 1 night and day cycle. If the werewolf was incorrect, the werewolf dies.


Actually

Is the werewolf kill avoidable if the werewolf guesses correctly? What happens if it can be protected against but the werewolf guesses right -- do they still get the benefits? powerofdeath

Since the host likes public questions.

[Helz]

Pinpoints the kill to one of two people for protectives, gives town 2 IC's whats bad about that

I just dislike that it creates a potential for a double kill. As of now I am basically confirmed where a number of town roles can play off me and with the exception of 1 neutral role there is not much of a counter for the solo mechanical reveal.

[Luka]

I just dislike that it creates a potential for a double kill. As of now I am basically confirmed where a number of town roles can play off me and with the exception of 1 neutral role there is not much of a counter for the solo mechanical reveal.

Please use it by EOD today to prevent a kill. Preferably on top wagon with ~~2 hours left to avoid a CFD.

[Luka]

I acknowledge that, but I stand by my firm belief that for me specifically agreeing to it would be very bad.

Also if Werewolf exists then everything goes to heck regardless. Given that werewolf dies if they're wrong, I assume the kill for being correct is unavoidable.



Actually

Is the werewolf kill avoidable if the werewolf guesses correctly? What happens if it can be protected against but the werewolf guesses right -- do they still get the benefits? powerofdeath

Since the host likes public questions.

If you believe so, I won't pressure you on it.

[Helz]

Im going to be dissapointed if the werewolf's kill pierces. Not sure why it would be in the OoO but I probably shoulda asked anyways

[powerofdeath]

I acknowledge that, but I stand by my firm belief that for me specifically agreeing to it would be very bad.

Also if Werewolf exists then everything goes to heck regardless. Given that werewolf dies if they're wrong, I assume the kill for being correct is unavoidable.



Actually

Is the werewolf kill avoidable if the werewolf guesses correctly? What happens if it can be protected against but the werewolf guesses right -- do they still get the benefits? powerofdeath

Since the host likes public questions.

Yes you can protect against the werewolf kills. Yes werewolf become deathproof, and may keep targeting the same player repeatedly.

[powerofdeath]

Current Vote count (24 hours in)

Lilypetal (2): Marshmallow Marshall, Huo Huo and Mr Tail
Varcron (1): bakermir
Huo Huo and Mr Tail (1): oliverz144
oliverz144 (1): Helz
Marshmallow Marshall (2): Auwt, MartinGG99
Skip Day ( 8 ): Mizery; Cape90; Scumbot5679; Luka; Dark Magician; lilypetal; bwcPorscha; Varcron

Small Reminder:

Plurality vote will be used. Not voting will count as Skipping the Day. Hammering does not lynch the person or end the day. Whoever have the most votes by 48 hours will be voted out. In an event of a tie, the day is skipped.

[Mizery]

I despise martin/mizery acting like thats -ev
its ++++ev
Theres a reason why admirer is the most busted role in TOS2. Double kill woopdy do we have 2 confirmed town

The whole reason not to accept is because if helz dies, the person who accepted the proposal will also die. It's not ++++ev to accept a proposal from a bride who has claimed.

If there is a werewolf in the setup that's 2 free kills for the werewolf since helz has confirmed his role.

[Mizery]

Please use it by EOD today to prevent a kill. Preferably on top wagon with ~~2 hours left to avoid a CFD.

that doesn't make any sense

[Mizery]

Also how do you find porscha super towny?

[Mizery]

BWC had a really good start


in response to this ^

[Dark Magician]

Do you genuinely think it actually helps Porscha in answering that question? Like I don't necessarily see why it would

Yes I do genuinely think so.
You don’t?

The player made a request and made it nicely.
They said it will help them make a read.
Did you not understand that?

[Dark Magician]

re-read what we've had since everyone's posted (meaning some neutrals and wolves have posted for sure by now)

helz prob town
cape prob town
miz lean town

dm slight lean wolf
mm seems a bit performative

Agree with MM read.
Try getting better read on me next time.
I’m obvious just a dude from spec chat.
Nah but actually the more I post the more obvious it should be that I am town here.

[Dark Magician]

I might call cape a wolf but i won't right now

I can see Cape and MM as wolves.

[Dark Magician]

If Helz cannot prove themselves they can be the last.
Although Helz hasn’t done much but there was a Cape pairing so it’s like, if I’m going for GTH team Helz could work with Cape from that read on Helz Cape made.

[Dark Magician]

Ok so I looked at Rolelist.
Bribe is only town so Helz is town.

[Dark Magician]

Perhaps then it could be the guy who called Helz/Cape a team.
Trying to pair them together in case Helz is still alive and Cape flips wolf.

MM/Cape/That one guy who put Helz/Cape together.

That makes sense yes?

[Dark Magician]

See all those posts and only me posting?
This is my thread bitches. Get in line.

[powerofdeath]

You must post at least five times every 24 hours interval. You will receive 1 warning, and will be replaced if this happen the second time. (Unless a role is preventing you from speaking).
In an event of a replacement, I may extend day by 24 more hours. (This only apply if replacement occurs within 18 hours of EotD.)


I will be a little forgiving this time around because its close to Thanksgiving but I did prod those who were a little bit under the 5 posts. Next time it will count as an official warning and a third time it will be replacement. Please post at least the minimum. Thank you :)

[powerofdeath]

I will be a little forgiving this time around because its close to Thanksgiving but I did prod those who were a little bit under the 5 posts. Next time it will count as an official warning and a third time it will be replacement. Please post at least the minimum. Thank you :)

If Thanksgiving holiday is causing an issue for you to keep up the activity, please let me know and I will pardon it.

[Lilypetal]

I really spelled cozy with an S... welp, thank you, sleep deprivation xD

Also, SEAWEED IS GOOD, MIZERY. Eat seaweed. It's great in soup. It's great in itself. Seaweed. Yum.


Yes. Once in my life, i.e. the first time I ever heard about it. That... would be about it.


o k

Have you ever thought about who could be scum? :P
"yes, you" is not a valid answer

~~

I dislike Lilypetal coming in, saying one kinda irrelevant thing that also isn't meant to be a funny inquiry that could spark interesting reactions ("omg hiii, I haven't [thought about it] but now i have i guess" really doesn't do... anything), and disappearing afterwards. There were things to comment on OR attempts to be funny to be made, but none of that happened. Thus, it COULD be that she wanted to just... appear, exist, but didn't know how to react to being scum - i.e., early wolf freeze.

Lilypetal
Welcome :P
Any interesting thoughts to share? What's your experience with mafia?

I'm not a noob so no, not this. There was simply nothing to react to or give an AI read on so I just went to do other things

[Lilypetal]

Mizery's posts around p#50 feel real bad. Like someone who just has no idea what to post so they keep going with random shit

Might not be AI for them but definitely pinged me

[Lilypetal]

Alright fine i will make up some thoughts about the game :p

-Helz' claim thing looks decent, esp since his opening was strange already. It's one of those things that I feel like I shouldn't worry too much about

-Miz is leaning town honestly and that's mostly for their MM read + not liking when ppl weren't here

-Dark Magician pushing Huohuo seemed really strange to me off of the Porscha thing.

How do I vote on here

I'm going to vote cape for this post lol

Let's break this down


Wolfy self awareness on the "make up some thoughts"

Mentions a claim that imo doesn't matter at all. I read it and went yeah ok w/e. Idk why that's even necessary here

Says miz is town despite miz just throwing out a bunch of nonsensical posts. Not to mention that the LAMIST "omg no one is here when i am" is more often a wolf thing to post

Other read is probs not that AI, but it is kind of a nothing read because it's just a "strange" read

So yeah Cape looks pretty bad here.

[Lilypetal]

re-read what we've had since everyone's posted (meaning some neutrals and wolves have posted for sure by now)

helz prob town
cape prob town
miz lean town

dm slight lean wolf
mm seems a bit performative

Why is cape town?

[Lilypetal]

I might call cape a wolf but i won't right now

how this is phrased is p towny

[Lilypetal]

Lily Baker BWC town? Need to finish my catchup. Marshall as twell.
Lily and baker just due to gut
BWC had a really good start
Marshall had a solid OP

gut reading me town after 3 NAI posts probably comes from a villager

[Lilypetal]

Dark Magician seems towny.

Caught up now, will real time if people are around

[Lilypetal]

Cape90

[MartinGG99]

Why is cape town?

I don't find him suspicious -- a lot of the reasons I could suspect him for are really low level and without wifom.

Which just reads as poorly playing wolf or, much more simply, not a wolf.

Re: what you said about the "make up" post

Fmpov it was said because of the level activity on this game and he wanted to drum up more.

You can't really play mafia if nobody is discussing anything lol. So you have to force things to happen eventually.

You could say that its "wolfy self-awareness" but that's like, in terms of WIFOM only, very very low-level and on something that isn't really something a wolf is bound to do even if self-aware -- they'd probably look at how everyone else is not doing much and opt to go a blame-less low activity approach to the game for the time being. Heck, he has even claimed being a busy bee or whatever and was vacationing in his first few posts and yet for awhile he was among the highest posters (12 posts by post #86). A self-aware wolf would definitely remember that claim they made, as they're self-aware, and yet he hasn't seem to made much or any use of it.

Regardless though, every slot is subject to changing reads over time (except helz) and cape is no different to that. However, as of the time being, I'd definitely say he's among my stronger / more confident reads.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

by asking the question... you immediately think about it.
like an cognitohazard, or "the game".

YOU ARE NOW BLINKING MANUALLY.
YOU ARE NOW BREATHING MANUALLY.
It's true, it works, I'm now self-conscious :(

Lean town on MM so far


Gonna be unoriginal and yoink the same read that Mizery has on MM :p

People are townreading me without stating their reasons, but they can't all be scum... I can't be paranoid, it's not fair :[
I guess I'll take it lol

Also, no, Huo, games are not always this slow at all lol, this is a specially slow D1 per this site's standards, considering it's fairly common for us to hit 1k posts by the end of D1 in games of this size. That said, it's not like you're particularly feeding the discussion with critical thinking, RVS to figure things out, or similar stuff, so your comment about the game being slow seems a little off? I may be misinterpreting, though, as I'm not used to your tone, and you seem to have a peculiar one (this isn't positive or negative, just a statement of fact; I don't mind it as long as it doesn't impair content :P).


Hey Cape.

You had wondering why I pushed Huo?
It’s more like I didn’t like their refusal of contributing.
Them answering Porscha’s question might have seemed pointless but it could help build someone’s read and Huo was refusing to help with Porscha’s read.
To be fair, Huo has contributed more than most people so far, even though they've been (very) far from groundbreaking. "Refusal of contributing" may be a little harsh? Plus, in this case, what do you think of my accusation against Lilypetal? (I saw she replied to it but haven't read her reply yet)

I’m going to wolf lean MM for not being mean enough.

That... is rude. I'm never really mean lol, you're acting like I'm usually a bully or something :(
(I could be mean and vote you for this but I won't)

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I changed my mind on Ms Lily, i think she is good and gave a good explanation for her lack of posting and i like her case on Cape :3

@ Mr Marshmallow i'm used to games this large having like 10-12 pages by now so i was getting a little bored >w<

That being said Mr Marshmallow, it comes as a surprise to me that even tho you were talking about Ms Lily you said nothing about her recent posting, your initial vote didn't look like rvs in my opinion.

Do you still think Lily is a baddy?

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Martin saying no to the proposal tho

What could it mean???

@Martingg90 could you give me the details Mr Martin?

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Oops Lilypetal

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I still think bwc posted for the sake of posting :3

Nodnod

-Huohuo

bwcporscha

[MartinGG99]

considering it's fairly common for us to hit 1k posts by the end of D1 in games of this size.

S-FM 350: Chaotic Executioner (2 less players), S-FM 344: President II (2 less players), and S-FM 353: Death Nominations (5 less players) all would like to have a word with you considering these expectations are more than double of each game's d1 or even more

Silent Night 2 is really the only recent game that got close to that and that was a special / unique invitational game

[MartinGG99]

Silent Night 2 is really the only recent game that got close to that and that was a special / unique invitational game

*of comparable size

[Mizery]

I changed my mind on Ms Lily, i think she is good and gave a good explanation for her lack of posting and i like her case on Cape :3

@ Mr Marshmallow i'm used to games this large having like 10-12 pages by now so i was getting a little bored >w<

That being said Mr Marshmallow, it comes as a surprise to me that even tho you were talking about Ms Lily you said nothing about her recent posting, your initial vote didn't look like rvs in my opinion.

Do you still think Lily is a baddy?

-Huohuo

what, her explanation of "no one was posting anything i could give an AI response to so i left" was good enough? how is that even a real answer?

[Mizery]

Because if everyone did that then we'd be sitting at p4 with no real content in thread at over 24 hours in

oh wait.....

[MartinGG99]

Martin saying no to the proposal tho

What could it mean???

@Martingg90 could you give me the details Mr Martin?

-Huohuo

- states/alludes to role reasons as main reason for declining
- made clear that declining would happen before even being offered the proposal
- Gets implicitly pressured for declining and gets asked about role

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....

[Mizery]

so true

MartinGG99

if you were town you'd have accepted the proposal.....

[MartinGG99]

I'm going to take a wild guess right now that Huo Huo is neutral, then take that guess not seriously, but when Huo Huo does flip neutral I'm going to point back to this post I can pretend I was right the whole time.

[Mizery]

I just straight up cant read them because it feels like a gimmik account

[MartinGG99]

so true

MartinGG99

if you were town you'd have accepted the proposal.....

I'm not going to breadcrumb my role more if that's what you're asking.

[Mizery]

I'm not going to breadcrumb my role more if that's what you're asking.

kinda find it interesting you find me serious here

[Lilypetal]

what, her explanation of "no one was posting anything i could give an AI response to so i left" was good enough? how is that even a real answer?

what else would it be? im not "frozen" because i was bored and left thread LOL

[Mizery]

Also i carried the last game post wise on my back and i'm too lazy to do that again

[MartinGG99]

kinda find it interesting you find me serious here

I didn't think you were voting me seriously, but I did think there was a chance you were genuinely interested.

That's how other towns sometimes are when I'm cagey about something. Instead of backing off, they just want more info and don't let up easily.

[Mizery]

what else would it be? im not "frozen" because i was bored and left thread LOL

were they saying you were frozen ? I didn't catch that if so

[Mizery]

Lily do you feel attacked by my response to Huo Huo?

[Mizery]

were they saying you were frozen ? I didn't catch that if so

it's just something I wouldn't expect to change someone's mind about anyone regardless of the reason they were given. Like that sentence from you shouldn't make them townread you more than they were before, regardless of what reason they had before.

[Lilypetal]

Lily do you feel attacked by my response to Huo Huo?

no clue what you mean so prolly not

[MartinGG99]

Not open to voting at all (either bc townread or I see town potential):

Helz
Luka
Cape90
Auwt
Varcron
Mizery
Lily



Also upon reflection I'm not sure if I want MM out today. I think he has some points that possibly performative but other points reflect a serious attitude and I've interpreted that situationally as >rand town under the circumstances. He may still be on the table for consensus but I want the slot/read to develop more.

bwcPorscha

[MartinGG99]

I've also bought Huo Huo's point about Porscha after mulling it over a short bit, if that wasn't clear.

[MartinGG99]

In particular this, which I'm guessing I glazed over earlier.


it's just that for example Mizery also came into the thread with off topic but! he is not framing it as game related while Bwc is framing it as very important and I don't really get why

-Huohuo

[Mizery]

I don't find that as really a wolf point, like i never expected anyone to take her post as something that she honestly thought would help her read anyone, and the response to it that was "wel if she says it'll help her read me then i believe her" was more wolfy than porscha's question

I do think that it was performative, but it's also possible it was performative in a "im so quirky" way rather than a wolfy way

lack of anything else going on though with her slot is meh tho so i'm not opposing.

[scumbot5679]

huo huo and mr tail

I exist, ya know?

[MartinGG99]

I don't find that as really a wolf point, like i never expected anyone to take her post as something that she honestly thought would help her read anyone, and the response to it that was "wel if she says it'll help her read me then i believe her" was more wolfy than porscha's question

I do think that it was performative, but it's also possible it was performative in a "im so quirky" way rather than a wolfy way

lack of anything else going on though with her slot is meh tho so i'm not opposing.

Basically so long as they seem interested in meeting minimums and nothing more while making game-related posts (or portraying them as such)

I'm suspicious of it

[scumbot5679]

actually, before I post more what is your read on MM, huo?

[bwcPorscha]

Everyone has their own way of figuring stuff out.
I don’t like your refusal to cooperate here.
Could be wolf not wanting to take a chance on being wolf read due to giving a bad answer.

hahahahhaahahahahahahaha

[scumbot5679]

actually, I'm going to post it regardless, the MM read is probably immaterial though it might strengthen my case.

I think ultimately I dislike their voting. You could make the argument that that doesn't make them scum and maybe so I'll try to go a little deeper here.

As I said earlier, I didn't like Huo Huo's vote on Lilly and didn't really like the no sell of 178.

kinda sus on the quick turnaround on Lily. The vote on Porscha seems...safe since their voting likely won't endear them much. But Lilly is posting and so is Cape.

this feels like scum going down the path of least resistance.

[Dark Magician]

Mizery's posts around p#50 feel real bad. Like someone who just has no idea what to post so they keep going with random shit

Might not be AI for them but definitely pinged me

Noted.

[Dark Magician]

Not open to voting at all (either bc townread or I see town potential):

Helz
Luka
Cape90
Auwt
Varcron
Mizery
Lily



Also upon reflection I'm not sure if I want MM out today. I think he has some points that possibly performative but other points reflect a serious attitude and I've interpreted that situationally as >rand town under the circumstances. He may still be on the table for consensus but I want the slot/read to develop more.

bwcPorscha

Damn, give me that spicy Cape Town read!

[Dark Magician]

I don't find him suspicious -- a lot of the reasons I could suspect him for are really low level and without wifom.

Which just reads as poorly playing wolf or, much more simply, not a wolf.

Re: what you said about the "make up" post

Fmpov it was said because of the level activity on this game and he wanted to drum up more.

You can't really play mafia if nobody is discussing anything lol. So you have to force things to happen eventually.

You could say that its "wolfy self-awareness" but that's like, in terms of WIFOM only, very very low-level and on something that isn't really something a wolf is bound to do even if self-aware -- they'd probably look at how everyone else is not doing much and opt to go a blame-less low activity approach to the game for the time being. Heck, he has even claimed being a busy bee or whatever and was vacationing in his first few posts and yet for awhile he was among the highest posters (12 posts by post #86). A self-aware wolf would definitely remember that claim they made, as they're self-aware, and yet he hasn't seem to made much or any use of it.

Regardless though, every slot is subject to changing reads over time (except helz) and cape is no different to that. However, as of the time being, I'd definitely say he's among my stronger / more confident reads.

Oh here it is.

[Dark Magician]

Sometimes the weaker reads are the right ones.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

huo huo and mr tail

I exist, ya know?

Do you want a trophy for existing or something?

-Mr Tail

[Dark Magician]

When I say MM isn’t being mean.
Part of it was a joke the other part is like I feel MM is trying to be too “friendly” then super focused and pressure pushing grim reaper that I’ve seen MM be.

[scumbot5679]

Do you want a trophy for existing or something?

-Mr Tail

yes please

[scumbot5679]

actually no, I get a statue for finding scum

[Dark Magician]

I still think bwc posted for the sake of posting :3

Nodnod

-Huohuo

bwcporscha

I think this is normal Porscha and regardless of alignment they are making some sorta reads with the answers we provided to their question.

[Dark Magician]

so true

MartinGG99

if you were town you'd have accepted the proposal.....

This is a stupid thought.
Martin stated his reason, stop reaching Mizery.

You putting pointless pressure for the sake of it.

[Dark Magician]

I'm going to take a wild guess right now that Huo Huo is neutral, then take that guess not seriously, but when Huo Huo does flip neutral I'm going to point back to this post I can pretend I was right the whole time.

Looking forward to this.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

actually, before I post more what is your read on MM, huo?

I'm waiting for a response from MM because he said nothing about lily when lily came back kid

Also enlighten me why is my voting "the path of less resistance"?

The guys voting poor Huohuo is saying i'm voting the path of less resistance?!?!?

Laughanle completely laughable

-Mr Tail

[Dark Magician]

kinda find it interesting you find me serious here

Ah sarcasm ok.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I think this is normal Porscha and regardless of alignment they are making some sorta reads with the answers we provided to their question.

We must be reading different games kid because all i read was random words

-Mr Tail

[Dark Magician]

actually, I'm going to post it regardless, the MM read is probably immaterial though it might strengthen my case.

I think ultimately I dislike their voting. You could make the argument that that doesn't make them scum and maybe so I'll try to go a little deeper here.

As I said earlier, I didn't like Huo Huo's vote on Lilly and didn't really like the no sell of 178.

kinda sus on the quick turnaround on Lily. The vote on Porscha seems...safe since their voting likely won't endear them much. But Lilly is posting and so is Cape.

this feels like scum going down the path of least resistance.

I was going to ask where the vote came from, but I’m yeah this looks like some pure thoughts.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

actually no, I get a statue for finding scum

Go ahead, you will look like a fool, more than you already do

-Mr Tail

Tail be nice with the doggy, he is just trying to play the game or mafia! Regardless of which he is trying his best :3

-Huohuo

[Dark Magician]

We must be reading different games kid because all i read was random words

-Mr Tail

Then you’re blind.
I read a situation “what would you do” question.
You seemed to ignore it or at least say no to the question or something like that and then say it was answered.

[Dark Magician]

Go ahead, you will look like a fool, more than you already do

-Mr Tail

Tail be nice with the doggy, he is just trying to play the game or mafia! Regardless of which he is trying his best :3

-Huohuo

He’s trying to play the game of mafia and he might have found a mafia member within you.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Then you’re blind.
I read a situation “what would you do” question.
You seemed to ignore it or at least say no to the question or something like that and then say it was answered.

Question was "have you guys ever thought about what it's like to run across flaming hot coals with your bare feet"

My answer was, " it's sounds scary so no"

Why would i think about doing scary stuff Mr Magician?

-Huohuo

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

He’s trying to play the game of mafia and he might have found a mafia member within you.

All he has found is a dumb reason to push Huohuo, i always flip green so i will call it as i see it, a dog barking.

-Mr Tail

[scumbot5679]

I'm waiting for a response from MM because he said nothing about lily when lily came back kid

Also enlighten me why is my voting "the path of less resistance"?

The guys voting poor Huohuo is saying i'm voting the path of less resistance?!?!?

Laughanle completely laughable

-Mr Tail

I think Lillys early game when she wasn't posting and porsha posting made them pretty easy and safe vote, As soon as lily starting posting you hightailed it out of there and despite calling Cape (and maybe MM scum) you voted porcha.

Also not loving the reaction to my vote on you.

[scumbot5679]

Are you saying that I'm a hypocrite or what did you mean?

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Are you saying that I'm a hypocrite or what did you mean?

Dog knows how to read

Applause!

-Mr Tail

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I don't care about your vote, you can do you, i'll do me

-Mr Tail

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

And me is waiting to see what comes from Bwc and MM next

-Mr Tail

[scumbot5679]

Dog knows how to read

Applause!

-Mr Tail

kinda mean

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

kinda mean

uwu

-Huohuo

[Helz]

You putting pointless pressure for the sake of it.

Is that such a bad thing though? It is a way to break RVS after all and this games activity could use some spicy conflicts.

[bakermir]

This is a stupid thought.
Martin stated his reason, stop reaching Mizery.

You putting pointless pressure for the sake of it.

DM towny

[Varcron]

The last time MM and I were on a same team was almost 2 years and a half ago.
Let's see if this game is going to prove me wrong... or not.
I know what color is my role so...
Safe bet for day 1, at least for now.
Also my apologies for my inactivity.

Marshmallow Marshall

Respectfully, I hate this take with a burning passion.

As much as historically you two have been on different teams it seems like a very low hanging scum reason to throw out there almost like a hail merry? Thought you're probably trying to bait for reactions like mine so I guess it worked lol

[bakermir]

Perhaps then it could be the guy who called Helz/Cape a team.
Trying to pair them together in case Helz is still alive and Cape flips wolf.

MM/Cape/That one guy who put Helz/Cape together.

That makes sense yes?

you mean oliverz144

I also got pinged by their cape/helz post earlier.

[Varcron]

honestly there's not many posts really that deserve a proper response here tbh. Also could definitely see a fabricator making life incredibly annoying for us if one exists just off of principle.

[bakermir]

honestly there's not many posts really that deserve a proper response here tbh. Also could definitely see a fabricator making life incredibly annoying for us if one exists just off of principle.

isn't that a problem for D2?

[Varcron]

isn't that a problem for D2?

It is but it just came to my mind

speaking of how have you been??? long time no see

[bakermir]

It is but it just came to my mind

speaking of how have you been??? long time no see

bing chilling

you?

[bakermir]

clear town: helz baker

towny: dm lily varcron scumbot

null/leans: auwt proscha mr.tail luka mm martin huohuo

wolfy: oliverz144 cape90 mizery



oliverz144

[bwcPorscha]

Yes. Also use to (and still do) juggle lit coals as a party trick when I host fires at my house

Wow, that is insane amount of rizz!

Your have gained or lost points based on your answer. Thank you for participating!

[bwcPorscha]

look at this girl she's so quirky and different with her completely wild opener that's so off topic

So true bestie!

You have lost or gained points based on your answer. Thank you for participating!

[bwcPorscha]

BWCporscha is gonna give me nightmares

You can just call me Porscha like you normally do!

Might not be able to prevent the nightmares, though.

[bwcPorscha]

it's just that for example Mizery also came into the thread with off topic but! he is not framing it as game related while Bwc is framing it as very important and I don't really get why

-Huohuo

Because I'm a lolcat on the inside :/

[bwcPorscha]

K I made it to page 2 and dont have time for more, be back sometime tomorrow

[bwcPorscha]

Kinda got screwed last minute on my personal time I had planned

[bwcPorscha]

While lily's response to me may have been uninspiring, most people's were uninspiring. So to use the idea that her response was both unfunny (how dare she) and uninspiring to vote is like. Lol.

Just say you didnt like that she hasnt posted anything but those posts. Because that's where the real scum lean should come from, I think.

So. Didnt love lily's presence or MM read on lily

[Helz]

From Luka's interaction with Martin about how I should use my role I am very confident they are not teamed. Very low chance of that interaction did not feel like a puppet show. I felt like a few points are worth talking about though.


I assume its a public role reveal? In which case I would gladly. For context I do felt they truly believed I could reveal their role and they encouraged it. Its also of note that the take they had on valuing having 2 confirmed townies with the night WIFOM over the risk of a double kill feels to me unlikely to come from an evil player. I would expect an evil player to be more conscious about both encouraging a situation where they can double kill as well as pushing night actions in such a way. Then there was a lack of understanding of how exactly the confirmation worked. I would expect an evil player to both have a drive to look into exactly what I can do after my public reveal (which would leave less room for such a misunderstanding) or if teamed for it to be mentioned in a team chat and talked about. Then there was a comment about me using it to sort a wagon. While I disagree with the thought that it would be good to tie my life to someone who is about to die I would again expect a wolf to not speak so freely. I 'think' the hosts did intend for this role to be used as semi investigative and I very much did understand its potential but I find myself questioning if a wolf would voice such a view to push for a potential double kill. This puts them between being a non-evil neutral or a town player for me.

[Helz]

Wow, that is insane amount of rizz!

Your have gained or lost points based on your answer. Thank you for participating!

Thanks, but I don't think that question in itself is you scum hunting outside of maybe gut reads. Some people are going to take what you are up to as AI but I will just say I am less confident. If you are up to what I think you are its clever.

Do you normally start off games with such a question?

[Helz]

Small town lean on Martin for his side of the interaction with Luka. Im not expanding on my reasoning for that right now.

[Lilypetal]

While lily's response to me may have been uninspiring, most people's were uninspiring. So to use the idea that her response was both unfunny (how dare she) and uninspiring to vote is like. Lol.

Just say you didnt like that she hasnt posted anything but those posts. Because that's where the real scum lean should come from, I think.

So. Didnt love lily's presence or MM read on lily

porscha try not to SR me challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[Helz]

So just a bit on Neutrals for this game.

There is potential that there is as many of them as there are Mafia. Given there are 9 Mafia roles and only 7 Neutral roles with 3 having potential to align with town I would consider it more probable that a neutral role exists than a Mafia role. This also translates to a need for us to not over depend on hunting through alignment tells.

I would also like to convey to any Ghost, Monk, or Wild Card that I could Marry you essentially joining you to the town and that I am not opposed to having such a conversation moving forward if you see value in throwing your lot in with us. The risk always comes with a neutral trusting the town and a town trusting a neutral but a bit of mutually assured destruction solves such trust issues.

[Helz]

porscha try not to SR me challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

For context do you two have a history that you feel will change the way they will read you?

[Cape90]

How do I vote on here

I'm going to vote cape for this post lol

Let's break this down


Wolfy self awareness on the "make up some thoughts"

Mentions a claim that imo doesn't matter at all. I read it and went yeah ok w/e. Idk why that's even necessary here

Says miz is town despite miz just throwing out a bunch of nonsensical posts. Not to mention that the LAMIST "omg no one is here when i am" is more often a wolf thing to post

Other read is probs not that AI, but it is kind of a nothing read because it's just a "strange" read

So yeah Cape looks pretty bad here.

1. I was being facetious on the whole "I am gonna make up some thoughts" thing. I thought about witholding the thoughts til later because they just were whatever, who cares.

2. I mentioned the claim because it was a thought I had since I took note of this Helz post

Was not expecting this to kick off so fast.

I have not been told a role yet but I am here and such. Expect limited participation from me on turkey day and the 24th. Will post again when I know what I am and such. Love the signup list and I am looking forward to playing with everyone : )
Which felt like there was something fishy going on with Helz because obviously if this were in fact true, they would probs just privately contact host i would think.

Helz' role is now publicly confirmed to be a thing though meaning he's just town because there is no mafia equivalent acc to first post.

I knew it "didn't matter" but I really wouldn't have a lot of thoughts about the game if I didn't include it

3. I townread Miz off of them seeing what I saw in MM and also


Kinda sad no one else is here rn

This post specifically being sad nobody is around, which is rand>v from my experience.


Mizery's posts around p#50 feel real bad. Like someone who just has no idea what to post so they keep going with random shit

Might not be AI for them but definitely pinged me

Mizery is an alt of an account you would know, I know from turbos that fluffposting is pretty NAI for Mizery and I will leave it there for you to interpret.

4. Dark Magician keeps on insisting that Porscha's inquiry totally means something and that she can read players off of that when I thought...

your response to this question will be deemed alignment indicative, choose wisely
When Porscha said this it was partially a joke


While lily's response to me may have been uninspiring, most people's were uninspiring. So to use the idea that her response was both unfunny (how dare she) and uninspiring to vote is like. Lol.

Just say you didnt like that she hasnt posted anything but those posts. Because that's where the real scum lean should come from, I think.

So. Didnt love lily's presence or MM read on lily

But I suppose not?

Also technically refusing to answer a prompt is technically a response to the prompt. I just wonder what inspiring answer Porscha was looking for? Like what was the expectation?

[Cape90]

I might call cape a wolf but i won't right now

Also you would like to wouldn't you

[Cape90]

Why would you ever deny that lol

think about it, bride is a lover role, if bride dies, martin also dies if he accepts

see the problem with this?

[Cape90]

It's true, it works, I'm now self-conscious :(




People are townreading me without stating their reasons, but they can't all be scum... I can't be paranoid, it's not fair :[
I guess I'll take it lol

-I found ur response to Porscha's follow up to her question towny, specifically when u put


"yes, you" is not a valid answer

in small text :p

-I felt like ur lilypetal push was towny despite me not being on board with the reasoning since I know lily is a good player, but the push made sense, at least for an early call to action-y type of thing.

-I found ur performativeness charming, though this is a lesser reason.

Sidenote: I do recall in your scumgame recently, the one where u had like 1 post or something, that that post just kinda spewed the person who blew me up as town. I am gonna probably take Luka as spewed from


Well well, I had expected to come back to more than this lol. I have little time at the moment, but will pop in throughout the day as my life allows.



How did I have a good thread entrance, exactly? This is the kind of statement that requires explanations. You must make your pocket warm and cosy before I jump in it.

Also, please get an avatar so that we can recognize you more easily: we want to know who we will detona-- I mean uhh... you get it! :)

this if ur mafia ;)

[Cape90]

- states/alludes to role reasons as main reason for declining
- made clear that declining would happen before even being offered the proposal
- Gets implicitly pressured for declining and gets asked about role

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....

Like they could just check the first post, all role info on this game is posted there

[Cape90]

I'm not going to breadcrumb my role more if that's what you're asking.


I mean no one should accept the proposal if proposed to unless helz is dead

U paying attention there Martin?

[Cape90]

Damn, give me that spicy Cape Town read!

Martin has been townreading me since page 2


Agree with MM read.
Try getting better read on me next time.
I’m obvious just a dude from spec chat.
Nah but actually the more I post the more obvious it should be that I am town here.

You even responded to the post right here and didn't even seem to peep an eye at it

[Auwt]

I'm not sure that denying Helz proposal was the good choice, Martin.
I understand that you would not want to potentially make 2 townies down at a time, yet I believe that having Helz back you up automatically make two auto confirmed town.
This would definitely reduce the current wide scope of possibility we have due to the amount of players being in-game.

For the record, I don't know if Helz can propose once again, but I would personally accept if they decide to do so.
Also, considering the quantity of Town role that could save players (Night Watchman, Though Guy, Soul Mate,...) and the number of TPR within the game, it's highly likely to have at least one of them able to save confirmed townies.

I'm not saying you are scum Martin, but auto-denying is what a scum would do, because Helz has the opportunity to instantly find a scum if you are one.
If I'm not chosen, I would like to ask Helz to demand Martin once again.
Should Martin refuse once again though, I would switch my vote to him.

[Auwt]

I'm not sure that denying Helz proposal was the good choice, Martin.
I understand that you would not want to potentially make 2 townies down at a time, yet I believe that having Helz back you up automatically make two auto confirmed town.
This would definitely reduce the current wide scope of possibility we have due to the amount of players being in-game.

For the record, I don't know if Helz can propose once again, but I would personally accept if they decide to do so.
Also, considering the quantity of Town role that could save players (Night Watchman, Though Guy, Soul Mate,...) and the number of TPR within the game, it's highly likely to have at least one of them able to save confirmed townies.

I'm not saying you are scum Martin, but auto-denying is what a scum would do, because Helz has the opportunity to instantly find a scum if you are one.
If I'm not chosen, I would like to ask Helz to demand Martin once again.
Should Martin refuse once again though, I would switch my vote to him.

Note that this can only be beneficial :

- Martin is scum : Confirmed Helz can tell us instantly.
- Martin is not scum : Confirmed Helz can confirm Martin instantly.

At worst (for you) you are voted off if you are scum, at best (for everyone) you are automatically confirmed if you are town or friendly neutral.

[Cape90]

Helz - Top town for obvious mech reasons, no evil equivalent to Bride.

MartinGG99 - For a person who said they were gonna lay back until day 2, that actually ended up not exactly happening and I think his contributions have been solvy/pro-town so far. Liked the read on Luka, biased, but like his defense of me.
Marshmallow Marshall - Explained this earlier and don't have anything to add here.
Mizery - Explained at least Mizery's early game, their point about not catching that MM said lily was frozen early game and then lily unfreezing herself isn't something MM should TR lily off of is a point I kinda just don't agree with on like a level 0 type of way. (the post is #180 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=994112#post994112), linking it for clarity). Other then that, nothing that makes me strengthen or weaken my light TR here.
Luka - I like his solving energy, even though it is a tad on a baseline level.
Varcron - I feel like saying that there aren't many posts worth responding to is rand>v for as """late""" in the game as post #222 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=994158#post994158) is. Hating the Auwt vote on MM feels towny to me for some reason.

scumbot5679 - I see where their sus on Huohuo is coming from in that Porscha is easy to point fingers at around this moment. I think I need a bit more before I really decide if this is town or not though but I am almost leaning that way. IDK just isn't enough there for me yet.
Dark Magician - The more Dark Magician doubles down on the whole Porscha inquiry thing, the more I felt better about it, oddly enough. I find Dark Magician to be particularly "jumpy" (like kinda posting like "AH HA" things without thinking too hard about it) which idk how to feel, my gut scumreads it but also knows that it could be a personality thing.
Huo Huo and Mr Tail - Have picked up this isn't a hydra, but like a partial roleplay type of thing. I am kinda drawing a blank when I read their content. Their post supporting the lily push felt not great to me, same with their subsequent changing of their mind on lily. Been prodding people which is good to see I suppose.
Auwt - Early push on MM was... whatever. I will say the problem with Martin deciding to take the bride's offer is that he would only be confirmed for a day (assuming he is indeed town) before mafia likely NKs one of Martin/Bride, and for town PRs, I see 3 possible town healing power roles I believe, but there could only be one and if so, how would they know who to protect? (unless night watchmen, but to protect both bride and whoever bride loves, that will be 2 out of the 3 uses for that role, which isn't super great IMO and it also is a gamble whether the role is here or not here, and soul mate would create a whole nasty chain of events if solo). (Sidenote: I am aware this has nothing to do with a read on Auwt but it's more a response to their recent content).
oliverz144 - The pairing of me and helz off an arbitrary thing is classic oliverz i think so idk how to read into that in terms of alignment for him. Other then that I have nothing to add.
Porscha - Don't have a lot to say, pretty fluffy, also scumleans lily though :D

Lilypetal - I don't see why anyone should TR this though. Like I feel like their micro posts feel off, like idk how to describe it, like when lilypetal questioned why a Mizery post was phrased towny, also nobody said anything about that. I know Mizery last game on here suspected me when I was town pretty hard so I died really really early so I can see their paranoia. #181 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=994113#post994113) feels off in like a shruggy type of way. Only thing is their Luka read seemed kinda towny I guess.
bakermir - Their posts feel pretty devoid of substance/underwhelming despite being game related.

bakermir

Obligatory boring vote for now

[Dark Magician]

Why did Cape give Mizery the following read?:
This post specifically being sad nobody is around, which is rand>v from my experience.

Lol.