S-FM 344 (Ladder): President II

[MartinGG99]

S-FM President II
S-FM 344; final S7 ladder game

Setup Link (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50352) (Includes the modifications)



Host ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=21928&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
Player
Flip (Phase)


ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46247&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Abraham Lincoln



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46252&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Dwight D Eisenhower



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46250&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Franklin D Roosevelt



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46242&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-George Washington



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46251&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Harry S Truman
Citizen (N1)


ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46244&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-James Madison



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46245&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-James Monroe



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46253&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-John F Kennedy



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46254&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Lyndon B Johnson



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46246&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Richard Nixon



ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46248&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Theodore Roosevelt
Doctor (N2)


ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46243&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Thomas Jefferson
Citizen (D3)


ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=process&userid=46249&searchthreadid=50355&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1&order=ascending)
FM-Woodrow Wilson
Citizen (D2)





EoD Links
EoD1
(https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50355-S-FM-344-(Ladder)-President-II?p=968999&viewfull=1#post968999)EoD2 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50355-S-FM-344-(Ladder)-President-II?p=969178&viewfull=1#post969178)
EoD3 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50355-S-FM-344-(Ladder)-President-II?p=969475&viewfull=1#post969475)

End-Game (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50355-S-FM-344-(Ladder)-President-II?p=969482&viewfull=1#post969482)

SoD1 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220725T15&p0=419&msg=SoD1+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)
EoD1 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220727T15&p0=419&msg=EoD1+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)
SoD2 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220728T15&p0=419&msg=SoD2+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)
EoD2 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220730T15&p0=419&msg=EoD2+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)
SoD3 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220731T15&p0=419&msg=SoD3+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)
EoD3 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220802T15&p0=419&msg=SoD3+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)
SoD4 Timer (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20220803T15&p0=419&msg=SoD4+Countdown&font=sanserif&csz=1)

[Lumi]

How to Vote
Vote using the [vote] tags around the target's exact username.


Lumi


Viewing the Vote Count
Click the button labeled "Vote Count" on the top of the thread

https://i.imgur.com/HiEtgp9.png

Clicking on the names in the Vote Count will take you to the post where they placed that vote.


Viewing ISOs
Click the button labeled "ISO List" on the top of the thread

https://i.imgur.com/4EZgae9.png

Finally, it can be useful to click the "Expand All" button to automatically expand all posts.

https://i.imgur.com/1s49i9V.png


IMPORTANT NOTE:
Some of these features do not work on non-default skins.

[MartinGG99]

Day 1 Begins!

EoD timer added to OP.

There is no elimination today, and president votes are due in private one hour before EoD. The election result will be announced at EoD, and the president will lose their role's night ability (if any) in return for having two votes instead of one.

Two clarifying spoilers:


When a president dies, the next day a secret vote will be held to elect a new president. This will run alongside the standard vote to eliminate (except Day 1). If the elected president is somehow also the person who will be eliminated, the second-closest vote for president will be elected instead. RNG will apply in cases of ties, except for when the Mafia have parity with the Town (in which case the mafia are favored to get the presidency / not be eliminated).


For elimination votes, any time before I lock the thread is good. Generally that means right around the timer (in the timer links) stops.

For president votes, it is so long as the discord message is timestamped to be exactly 1 hour before EoD or earlier (2:00 PM EST is good, 2:01 PM is bad).

[FM-James Monroe]

yo

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Hello, Monroe.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Hiya ladies, gents and theys ✨

I'm excited, first anon game ever!

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Howdy Monroe and Truman,

How are yall? Avoid Dallas, esp in an open roof car.

[FM-James Madison]

Hiya ladies, gents and theys ✨

I'm excited, first anon game ever!

Haha me too
I thought James Monroe was me at first and got confused

FM-James Monroe

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Hello people !

If we stand passively by while the centre of each city becomes a hive of depravation, crime and hopelessness…if we become two people, the affluent but ignorant town and the few but informed mafia, each filled with mistrust and fear for the other… then we shall effectively cripple each generation to come.

I wanna let you know that I'm glad you're with us, John. We've been missing you.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

It could be proper if we all were referred to as 'gents' this game, given the flavor and depending on one's roleplaying priorities.

I am well, Kennedy. Although be aware when cornered I sometimes go nuclear. Only if I do not believe I have any other choices, of course.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Haha me too
I thought James Monroe was me at first and got confused

FM-James Monroe

That's an odd reason to confuse yourself since it two different pfp but go off kings (or should I say presidents lol)

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

It could be proper if we all were referred to as 'gents' this game, given the flavor and depending on one's roleplaying priorities.

I am well, Kennedy. Although be aware when cornered I sometimes go nuclear. Only if I do not believe I have any other choices, of course.

I concur, gents.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Hello people !

If we stand passively by while the centre of each city becomes a hive of depravation, crime and hopelessness…if we become two people, the affluent but ignorant town and the few but informed mafia, each filled with mistrust and fear for the other… then we shall effectively cripple each generation to come.

I wanna let you know that I'm glad you're with us, John. We've been missing you.

Damn bruh it's been like decades since I seen you. How's it been? How many interns have you traumatized? I'm glad you covered my gig while I was out. Much appreciated. Love to your family!

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

i gotta learn what wilson’s policy’s were, hopefully the cia doesn’t kill kennedy again

[FM-John F Kennedy]

It could be proper if we all were referred to as 'gents' this game, given the flavor and depending on one's roleplaying priorities.

I am well, Kennedy. Although be aware when cornered I sometimes go nuclear. Only if I do not believe I have any other choices, of course.

Let's not go nuclear or make any references to explosions, kinda sensitive and traumatized here. Be a little sensitive.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

turkish nuclear crisis would say otherwise

[FM-John F Kennedy]

i gotta learn what wilson’s policy’s were, hopefully the cia doesn’t kill kennedy again

It was the Chicago mob and CIA joining forces to yeet my ass. All I wanted to do was like cool off on attacking Cuba and cut the cia budget. Bunch of pricks, lemme tell yea.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

should’ve just occupied panama like Roosevelt, then you’d be alive

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Bruh I can't believe a total of 42 groups, 82 assassins, and 214 people all were linked to my murder. Shits wild.

I don't get why I was so hated. Like damn

[FM-John F Kennedy]

should’ve just occupied panama like Roosevelt, then you’d be alive

Mistakes happen.

What did you even do during your time in office? Lots of judgment my guy.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Thread feels pretty towny so far. Ezpz game

[FM-James Monroe]

Howdy Monroe and Truman,

How are yall? Avoid Dallas, esp in an open roof car.

I am doing well.

Haha me too
I thought James Monroe was me at first and got confused

FM-James Monroe
A fellow James! We will be either the greatest of allies or the greatest of enemies. Time will tell which one it will be.

[FM-James Monroe]

Thread feels pretty towny so far. Ezpz game

Hmmm.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Hmmm.

What's up Monroe?

No one feels awkward or forced hence why it feels towny.

Do you disagree?

[FM-James Madison]

I don't really read things haha..... I just look at them and understand it...

I also hadn't even posted by then and didn't know what my pfp was haha.....

[FM-James Madison]

What's up Monroe?

No one feels awkward or forced hence why it feels towny.

Do you disagree?

I thought my opener was awkward enough..... this is awkward.....

[FM-George Washington]

𝐵𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓇𝓉𝑒𝑜𝓊𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝓁𝓁, 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓂𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒻𝑒𝓌, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓁𝑒𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝒻𝑒𝓌 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁 𝓉𝓇𝒾𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝑒𝒻𝑜𝓇𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝒻𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒. 𝒯𝓇𝓊𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝒾𝑒𝓃𝒹𝓈𝒽𝒾𝓅 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝓃𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓈𝓁𝑜𝓌 𝑔𝓇𝑜𝓌𝓉𝒽, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓂𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝑔𝑜 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝒸𝓀𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝒶𝒹𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒷𝑒𝒻𝑜𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓉𝓁𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑒𝓁𝓁𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

This thread feels like a void so far. Which is fine.

Anyway I am going to be voting the most suspicious person for President today and then seeing what happens. My President vote will be made very late into the day. I think that would be a fun way to play it.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I thought my opener was awkward enough..... this is awkward.....

Eh seems awkward in a towny way and not a stiff scummy way.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝐵𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓇𝓉𝑒𝑜𝓊𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝓁𝓁, 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓂𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒻𝑒𝓌, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓁𝑒𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝒻𝑒𝓌 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁 𝓉𝓇𝒾𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝑒𝒻𝑜𝓇𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝒻𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒. 𝒯𝓇𝓊𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝒾𝑒𝓃𝒹𝓈𝒽𝒾𝓅 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝓃𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓈𝓁𝑜𝓌 𝑔𝓇𝑜𝓌𝓉𝒽, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓂𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝑔𝑜 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝒸𝓀𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝒶𝒹𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒷𝑒𝒻𝑜𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓉𝓁𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑒𝓁𝓁𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃.

BRUH I can write in cursive-print but I can't read this at all. I am going to struggle reading you but I'm down for the challenge

[FM-George Washington]

𝒲𝑒 𝓂𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝑜𝑔𝑒𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝑜 𝒹𝑒𝒻𝑒𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑜𝓃 𝑒𝓋𝒾𝓁 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓌𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝓊𝓈, 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝒶𝓂𝑒, 𝓂𝓎 𝓉𝓇𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒷𝑒 𝒽𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝒻𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓃𝑒𝒹. 𝑀𝑒𝓃, 𝐼 𝓊𝓇𝑔𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊, 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒷𝓈𝓉𝒶𝒾𝓃 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒𝓈, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒷𝓈𝓉𝒶𝒾𝓃 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓈𝒽𝒶𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒𝓈 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓊𝓈.

𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝑒𝒶𝓈𝒾𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝑜 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝒸𝑒𝒾𝓋𝑒, 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝒸𝓇𝒾𝒷𝑒, 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝑒 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝒾𝒻 𝓌𝑒 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝓊𝓃𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝑒𝒶𝒸𝒽 𝑜𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇.

[FM-George Washington]

𝑀𝓎 𝑜𝓃𝓁𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝑔𝓇𝑒𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝑀𝓎 𝑜𝓃𝓁𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝑔𝓇𝑒𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒.

Why is this a regret lol?

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Cursive on my computer monitor is a little harder to read so please stick with the default font or bump up your cursive one size for accessibility reasons. Thank you.

[FM-George Washington]

Cursive on my computer monitor is a little harder to read so please stick with the default font or bump up your cursive one size for accessibility reasons. Thank you.

𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝒷𝓁𝒾𝑔𝑒.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Cursive on my computer monitor is a little harder to read so please stick with the default font or bump up your cursive one size for accessibility reasons. Thank you.

Truman, my guy, get a little loosey goosey. Drink a little, kick back, relax those shoulders and unclench that jaw.

[FM-James Monroe]

What's up Monroe?

No one feels awkward or forced hence why it feels towny.

Do you disagree?

I think my entrance, being simply "yo", was effectively null.
I think Lyndon's entrance could be interpreted as forced or awkward.

Thus my "Hmmm", because I did not see how you could interpret my entrance as anything other than null.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

i won’t read george washington until he sends non cursive

[FM-James Monroe]

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oh my gosh it's George Washington!

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Font increase is much better. Thank you.

Loosey Goosey is for men who have not seen war, President Kennedy. I have seen the face of war. It is ugliness. It is pain and it is sacrifice. I will do all I can to steer this game in its proper direction and can but hope that the tellers of history will look upon me kindly.

Thoughts on electing a suspicious President, sir?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I think my entrance, being simply "yo", was effectively null.
I think Lyndon's entrance could be interpreted as forced or awkward.

Thus my "Hmmm", because I did not see how you could interpret my entrance as anything other than null.

LBJ is roleplaying is LBJ who was uh pretty serious and stiff in interviews and what not. Seems on pat.

I thought the YO was natural.

I didn't realize I needed to explain why the thread didn't feel scummy so far.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

I am unironically leaning mafia on Monroe right now.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

Font increase is much better. Thank you.

Loosey Goosey is for men who have not seen war, President Kennedy. I have seen the face of war. It is ugliness. It is pain and it is sacrifice. I will do all I can to steer this game in its proper direction and can but hope that the tellers of history will look upon me kindly.

Thoughts on electing a suspicious President, sir?

nixon it is

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Font increase is much better. Thank you.

Loosey Goosey is for men who have not seen war, President Kennedy. I have seen the face of war. It is ugliness. It is pain and it is sacrifice. I will do all I can to steer this game in its proper direction and can but hope that the tellers of history will look upon me kindly.

Thoughts on electing a suspicious President, sir?

Well seeing as some of the presidents are tardy for this party, I'm going to withhold on voting till I see everyone's platform.

Legalize having mistresses while married and I won't vote for you. Where's Clinton to back me up on this?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I am unironically leaning mafia on Monroe right now.

Ooh explain this read

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Ooh explain this read

Monroe sounds like that spent three hours (this is not meant to be literal) overthinking their entrance to sound null to people. I cannot fathom why any member of town would look at their first post of 'Yo', and use the phrase 'effectively null.'

It's like, so manufactured.

I saw you say the thread was towny and thought to myself 'that's funny to say' and then didn't even bother to comment on it. Monroe though, Monroe feels jumpy. Too jumpy for someone who naturally posts neat things like 'Yo' as their first post. Therefore, the Yo wasn't natural and therefore Monroe has increased mafia chances due to these chaining thoughts of mine.

[FM-George Washington]

oh my gosh it's George Washington!

𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝑒𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝒻 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝒷𝓁𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒. 𝐼 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝑒𝒸𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒶 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝑔𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈 𝑔𝓇𝑜𝓊𝓅 𝑜𝒻 𝒾𝓃𝒹𝒾𝓋𝒾𝒹𝓊𝒶𝓁𝓈 𝓈𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝒶𝓈 𝓊𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝒹𝒾𝒻𝒻𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝓉𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔. 𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒷𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝓁𝓊𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝓇𝒾𝓃𝓉 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓈𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝓎 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉 𝒶𝓈 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁.

I am disappointed to see that not all of you are able to read cursive. I expected a prestigious group of individuals such as us would have no difficulty reading cursive writing. I will be including print versions of my text as well.

[FM-George Washington]

𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓊𝓅 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝑔𝒾𝓂𝓂𝒾𝒸𝓀.

I am not giving up on this gimmick.

[FM-James Monroe]

LBJ is roleplaying is LBJ who was uh pretty serious and stiff in interviews and what not. Seems on pat.
So you agree it IS awkward, but it's excused by the fact it's roleplay. Shouldn't that then just be a null read?


I thought the YO was natural.
I don't see how you could. It's the most basic entrance I could possibly do.


I didn't realize I needed to explain why the thread didn't feel scummy so far.

You're the one who made the affirmation that the thread felt townie to you :p

[FM-James Monroe]

Monroe sounds like that spent three hours (this is not meant to be literal) overthinking their entrance to sound null to people. I cannot fathom why any member of town would look at their first post of 'Yo', and use the phrase 'effectively null.'

It's like, so manufactured.

I saw you say the thread was towny and thought to myself 'that's funny to say' and then didn't even bother to comment on it. Monroe though, Monroe feels jumpy. Too jumpy for someone who naturally posts neat things like 'Yo' as their first post. Therefore, the Yo wasn't natural and therefore Monroe has increased mafia chances due to these chaining thoughts of mine.

cool story bro

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Monroe sounds like that spent three hours (this is not meant to be literal) overthinking their entrance to sound null to people. I cannot fathom why any member of town would look at their first post of 'Yo', and use the phrase 'effectively null.'

It's like, so manufactured.

I saw you say the thread was towny and thought to myself 'that's funny to say' and then didn't even bother to comment on it. Monroe though, Monroe feels jumpy. Too jumpy for someone who naturally posts neat things like 'Yo' as their first post. Therefore, the Yo wasn't natural and therefore Monroe has increased mafia chances due to these chaining thoughts of mine.

Hmm going to add this to my notes when I reread.

Appreciate it bruh

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓊𝓅 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝑔𝒾𝓂𝓂𝒾𝒸𝓀.

I am not giving up on this gimmick.

This is kinda towny to include print spoilers. Yes you are sticking to the gimmick but you are also adjusting your gimmick for others so they can easily read you.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

cool story bro

Making a note here. Huge success.

Of course, President Kennedy. Any time.

Washington is my top town read for changing his gimmick on demand not once but twice to accommodate fellow players. If nothing else Washington is not aligned with Wilson based off of that. This is me flying by the seat of my pants a bit but it is fun to start the solving early.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

So you agree it IS awkward, but it's excused by the fact it's roleplay. Shouldn't that then just be a null read?

I don't see how you could. It's the most basic entrance I could possibly do.


You're the one who made the affirmation that the thread felt townie to you :p

BRUH have you ever felt the warm embrace of a woman before?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Making a note here. Huge success.

Of course, President Kennedy. Any time.

Washington is my top town read for changing his gimmick on demand not once but twice to accommodate fellow players. If nothing else Washington is not aligned with Wilson based off of that. This is me flying by the seat of my pants a bit but it is fun to start the solving early.

Woah we mindmelded

Far out

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Woah we mindmelded

Far out

Nice. You can have an early town lean for that.

[FM-George Washington]

This is kinda towny to include print spoilers. Yes you are sticking to the gimmick but you are also adjusting your gimmick for others so they can easily read you.

𝐹𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒶 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝒻 𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑜𝓇 𝓃𝑜𝓉. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒾𝓂𝓅𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐼 𝓀𝓃𝑜𝓌 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑜𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓁𝒾𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉. 𝐼 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓂𝓎 𝒻𝓊𝓉𝓊𝓇𝑒. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓊𝓈𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑜𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂.

Find a better reason to read me than this. I would be writing in cursive no matter if I was employed by the British or not. It is simply the writing I know best. But it would be unfair of me to not accommodate for those who are unfamiliar with the text. I understand you are all from my future. Perhaps cursive is not used in the time period you are from.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

𝐹𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒶 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝒻 𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑜𝓇 𝓃𝑜𝓉. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒾𝓂𝓅𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐼 𝓀𝓃𝑜𝓌 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑜𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓁𝒾𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉. 𝐼 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓂𝓎 𝒻𝓊𝓉𝓊𝓇𝑒. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓊𝓈𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑜𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂.

Find a better reason to read me than this. I would be writing in cursive no matter if I was employed by the British or not. It is simply the writing I know best. But it would be unfair of me to not accommodate for those who are unfamiliar with the text. I understand you are all from my future. Perhaps cursive is not used in the time period you are from.

"find a better reason to read me than this."

Okay Washington is lock town and now sadly likely a target for death tonight by Mafia due to how obvious he is on the town's side. Leave as good of a legacy here as you did in life, President Washington.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝐹𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒶 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝒻 𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑜𝓇 𝓃𝑜𝓉. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒾𝓂𝓅𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐼 𝓀𝓃𝑜𝓌 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑜𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓁𝒾𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉. 𝐼 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓂𝓎 𝒻𝓊𝓉𝓊𝓇𝑒. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓊𝓈𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑜𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂.

Find a better reason to read me than this. I would be writing in cursive no matter if I was employed by the British or not. It is simply the writing I know best. But it would be unfair of me to not accommodate for those who are unfamiliar with the text. I understand you are all from my future. Perhaps cursive is not used in the time period you are from.

I'm giving you more townie points for pushing back on this. Keep it going. You're making me proud

[FM-Harry S Truman]

I'm giving you more townie points for pushing back on this. Keep it going. You're making me proud

Okay one mindmeld is a maybe, but two is town.

Good start to my day. Harry you've done it again.

[FM-George Washington]

Howdy Monroe and Truman,

How are yall? Avoid Dallas, esp in an open roof car.

𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝓇𝑒𝓋𝒾𝑒𝓌𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓂𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒸𝑜𝓇𝒹𝓈 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓃 𝐼 𝓈𝓉𝓊𝓂𝒷𝓁𝑒𝒹 𝓊𝓅𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓂𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓈𝓀 𝓎𝑜𝓊, 𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 "𝒸𝒶𝓇"?

I was reviewing my records when I stumbled upon this. I must ask you, what is a "car"?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I apologize for talking alot, yall can tell me to shut up if I'm taking up too much space in the thread. I feel liberated without a post cap.

[FM-George Washington]

I apologize for talking alot, yall can tell me to shut up if I'm taking up too much space in the thread. I feel liberated without a post cap.

𝒴𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝒸𝑜𝓂𝑒 𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒, 𝒫𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎.

Your thoughts are welcome here, President Kennedy.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Well seeing as some of the presidents are tardy for this party, I'm going to withhold on voting till I see everyone's platform.

Legalize having mistresses while married and I won't vote for you. Where's Clinton to back me up on this?

Sounds like a plan I can get behind.

I wanna let y'all know that I'll also be choosing Mr. Washington as president, for purely roleplay reasons.

Power is where power goes. And my guts tell me power goes to George Washington.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝓇𝑒𝓋𝒾𝑒𝓌𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓂𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒸𝑜𝓇𝒹𝓈 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓃 𝐼 𝓈𝓉𝓊𝓂𝒷𝓁𝑒𝒹 𝓊𝓅𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓂𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓈𝓀 𝓎𝑜𝓊, 𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 "𝒸𝒶𝓇"?

I was reviewing my records when I stumbled upon this. I must ask you, what is a "car"?

You know those like horse and carriages but like think of the power of 18 hours. And instead of actually horses it's metal things that rely on dead dinosaurs to run. It's wild and destroying our environment and country set up.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

I am actually against using our President voting for people we like. By using it on people we find suspicious we are attempting to turn mafia power into mafia not power, and I like that use of the role. Getting two votes is, after all, unlikely to be too big of a deal for a well read town member.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

I apologize for talking alot, yall can tell me to shut up if I'm taking up too much space in the thread. I feel liberated without a post cap.

you obviously aren’t liberated mentally, can take the post cap out of the thread, can’t take the post cap out of the person

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

i don’t make reads d1 btw, that’s my meta

[FM-Harry S Truman]

i don’t make reads d1 btw, that’s my meta

Skill issue.

Anyway I will be gone for a long awhile, see you gents later.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

i don’t make reads d1 btw, that’s my meta

How are we supposed to know that lol?

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

I am actually against using our President voting for people we like. By using it on people we find suspicious we are attempting to turn mafia power into mafia not power, and I like that use of the role. Getting two votes is, after all, unlikely to be too big of a deal for a well read town member.

Fine, let us jump right into that debate, once and for all : how should we vote ?

I get that giving a townie an extra vote isn't necessarily a good thing, but I'm not convinced that giving that power the first ****** is the best thing to do. Struggle to see how the average outcome is better than giving some townie an extra vote, but I welcome you to tell me because I find the concept extremely appealing.

I would also advise anyone against talking about meta, one's never careful enough.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Raise your hand if you ever had fun with the interns in the oval office?

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

How are we supposed to know that lol?

i’m telling you now, you can’t confirm it though which is an issue i see too

[FM-John F Kennedy]

i’m telling you now, you can’t confirm it though which is an issue i see too

It do be like that sometimes

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Wait I just realized we aren't voitjng people to yeet but to elect as president.

Madison wyd

[FM-George Washington]

You know those like horse and carriages but like think of the power of 18 hours. And instead of actually horses it's metal things that rely on dead dinosaurs to run. It's wild and destroying our environment and country set up.

𝐹𝒶𝓈𝒸𝒾𝓃𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔.

Fascinating.

[FM-George Washington]

i don’t make reads d1 btw, that’s my meta

𝒴𝑜𝓊 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶 𝒸𝒾𝓋𝒾𝒸 𝒹𝓊𝓉𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒. 𝒯𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝓆𝓊𝒾𝓇𝑒𝓈 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝟣 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝓈. 𝐿𝒶𝒸𝓀 𝑜𝒻 𝑒𝓃𝑔𝒶𝑔𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝑒𝓍𝒸𝓊𝓈𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒. 𝒲𝑒 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝒶𝓂𝑒 𝓈𝑒𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝒾𝓃𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓂𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒𝓈- 𝐼 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝒾𝓃 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓃𝒹𝒶𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝓃𝑒.

You have a civic duty to vote. That requires you to make day 1 reads. Lack of engagement will not excuse you from casting a vote. We all will have the same set of information throughout this day to cast our votes- I expect every person in attendance to be casting one.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

𝒴𝑜𝓊 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶 𝒸𝒾𝓋𝒾𝒸 𝒹𝓊𝓉𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒. 𝒯𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝓆𝓊𝒾𝓇𝑒𝓈 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝟣 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝓈. 𝐿𝒶𝒸𝓀 𝑜𝒻 𝑒𝓃𝑔𝒶𝑔𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝑒𝓍𝒸𝓊𝓈𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒. 𝒲𝑒 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝒶𝓂𝑒 𝓈𝑒𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝒾𝓃𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓂𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒𝓈- 𝐼 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝒾𝓃 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓃𝒹𝒶𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝓃𝑒.

You have a civic duty to vote. That requires you to make day 1 reads. Lack of engagement will not excuse you from casting a vote. We all will have the same set of information throughout this day to cast our votes- I expect every person in attendance to be casting one.

i will not have a lack of engagement, i will vote. but i won’t have reads of my own, i won’t “check out” or anything either

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Vote for me and I will legalize open marriages #polyampride #ethicalnonmonogamy #loveislove

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

if i get president i’ll do what all presidents before me failed to do, invade and absorb canada and mexico

[FM-James Madison]

This is kinda towny to include print spoilers. Yes you are sticking to the gimmick but you are also adjusting your gimmick for others so they can easily read you.

I kinda like this read..... haha....

Maybe jfk is town yeah......

[FM-John F Kennedy]

i don’t make reads d1 btw, that’s my meta

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. Never 4get

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Vote for all I'm saying is those damn soviets and cubans are funding the mafia, we need to destroy mafia and protect capitalism.

Think about America. We need to protect our freedoms.

Who is will join me?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I promise no bay of pigs incident if you elect me.

I will invade and destroy mafia chat.

America, land of the free, will be safe in my hands.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. Never 4get

democracy is flawed, the Chinese system is superior

[FM-George Washington]

Vote for all I'm saying is those damn soviets and cubans are funding the mafia, we need to destroy mafia and protect capitalism.

Think about America. We need to protect our freedoms.

Who is will join me?

𝒲𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓈𝑜𝓋𝒾𝑒𝓉?

What is a soviet?

[FM-George Washington]

I promise no bay of pigs incident if you elect me.

𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒿𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝓈𝑜𝓊𝓃𝒹𝓈 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊'𝓇𝑒 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓈 𝓊𝓅.

This just sounds like you're making things up.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Hiya!

UwU Abraham Lincoln desu!

https://i.imgur.com/4hSJydg.jpg

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

I am not allowed to change my avatar to my great disappointment, but just mentally picture it and it's all A-OK.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Hiya!

UwU Abraham Lincoln desu!

https://i.imgur.com/4hSJydg.jpg

How do you feel about kpop

[FM-Thomas Jefferson]

It could be proper if we all were referred to as 'gents' this game, given the flavor and depending on one's roleplaying priorities.

I am well, Kennedy. Although be aware when cornered I sometimes go nuclear. Only if I do not believe I have any other choices, of course.

G'day gents

Personally I was already planning on doing this as a gimick for myself, however if others would like to join I would not be opposed.


𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝑒𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝒻 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝒷𝓁𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒. 𝐼 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝑒𝒸𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒶 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝑔𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈 𝑔𝓇𝑜𝓊𝓅 𝑜𝒻 𝒾𝓃𝒹𝒾𝓋𝒾𝒹𝓊𝒶𝓁𝓈 𝓈𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝒶𝓈 𝓊𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝒹𝒾𝒻𝒻𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝓉𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔. 𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒷𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝓁𝓊𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝓇𝒾𝓃𝓉 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓈𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝓎 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉 𝒶𝓈 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁.

Amen to that George, it is a shame that not all of these honorable gentlemen are able to read in to the more sophisticated text.


Washington is my top town read for changing his gimmick on demand not once but twice to accommodate fellow players. If nothing else Washington is not aligned with Wilson based off of that. This is me flying by the seat of my pants a bit but it is fun to start the solving early.

I concur that the first of a long list of gentlemen is in quite a good view for changing their gimick to accommodate the needs of other such gentlemen.


Sounds like a plan I can get behind.

I wanna let y'all know that I'll also be choosing Mr. Washington as president, for purely roleplay reasons.

Power is where power goes. And my guts tell me power goes to George Washington.

Fair. We'll see how this ages as we discuss more throughout the day. It feels fantastic not being restricted by a post cap currently.


Fine, let us jump right into that debate, once and for all : how should we vote ?

I get that giving a townie an extra vote isn't necessarily a good thing, but I'm not convinced that giving that power the first ****** is the best thing to do. Struggle to see how the average outcome is better than giving some townie an extra vote, but I welcome you to tell me because I find the concept extremely appealing.

I would also advise anyone against talking about meta, one's never careful enough.

Once again I concur with this gentleman from Texas. Discussing your meta in an anonymous game (no matter if you're lying about it or not) isn't really a good look just because you could be misleading other gentlemen into believing that you do something that you do not.

Perhaps I don't really understand, but could you rephrase this for me? For some reason what you said here doesn't really click at all.

For the time being I must leave you all to discussion, for I have matters to attend to that cannot wait (IRL). I bid all the gentlemen good day.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Jefferson didn't talk about me.

Sadge

[MartinGG99]

[SIZE=6]
There is no elimination today, and president votes are due in private one hour before EoD. The election result will be announced at EoD, and the president will lose their role's night ability (if any) in return for having two votes instead of one.

I forgot to add the following: Any non-votes or forgotten votes will be RNG'ed out of everyone who isn't yourself, since you can't self-vote.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Jefferson didn't talk about me.

Sadge

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Just sitting here contemplating my life with Jefferson ignoring me as if I don't have the highest post count

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

I was considering voting myself or nobody, but was informed that we are forced to make our votes on an players ither than ourselves. So that's something to remember y'all.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

It's going to be hard for me to remember anyone with these samey names and avatars holy crap.

[MartinGG99]

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Just sitting here contemplating my life with Jefferson ignoring me as if I don't have the highest post count

Do not edit posts.

If you do end up doing that, we can see what you did, but the players cannot. So please do not do it, even for typo's.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Do not edit posts.

If you do end up doing that, we can see what you did, but the players cannot. So please do not do it, even for typo's.

I apologize uwu

[FM-John F Kennedy]

It's going to be hard for me to remember anyone with these samey names and avatars holy crap.

I would like to think I'm unforgettable ✨

[FM-John F Kennedy]

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Alright I think I'm going to nap and let the thread be active without me. See yall in a couple of hours.

Xoxo

[FM-James Madison]

BRUH have you ever felt the warm embrace of a woman before?

I bedded a Spanish woman last night, I prefer my seduction to be applied in real life where it has intrinsic value, even if said value is hedonistic by design.

And I know it's stereotypical for someone to boast of their sexual accomplishments in an online board, but it's true. I have a certain capacity for seduction daily, at home I apply that to mafia, abroad I apply that to the local ladies (who are quite voluptuous and coquettishly leading).

[FM-James Madison]

How are we supposed to know that lol?

Because they told us..... haha

[FM-James Madison]

Jfk is probably my top town right now......

He's just here in thread talking....even if it's nonsense? Haha idk....but he's talking and here...which is towny.....

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I bedded a Spanish woman last night, I prefer my seduction to be applied in real life where it has intrinsic value, even if said value is hedonistic by design.

And I know it's stereotypical for someone to boast of their sexual accomplishments in an online board, but it's true. I have a certain capacity for seduction daily, at home I apply that to mafia, abroad I apply that to the local ladies (who are quite voluptuous and coquettishly leading).

Bedding Spanish women is one my many hobbies

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Remember to vote for me. Not voting for me just means you support communism and that's un-American of you to do.

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[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Thread feels pretty towny so far. Ezpz game

Isn't it quite easy to mimic the behavior of a good American citizen while secretly nourishing evil deeds? Couldn't the anti-American demons speak that way too?


Washington, I love you. I'm a big fan, seriously. Especially with your cursive font (and especially when you make it big so that we can read it!).

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Jfk is probably my top town right now......

He's just here in thread talking....even if it's nonsense? Haha idk....but he's talking and here...which is towny.....

Stalin was a very active man. You are implying all active men are good. This means you support Stalin. I'm sorry, sir, but I am afraid I will not adhere to such opnions. Activity is not indicative of anything: the most horrible statesmen with the worst deeds gave many speeches, after all.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Isn't it quite easy to mimic the behavior of a good American citizen while secretly nourishing evil deeds? Couldn't the anti-American demons speak that way too?


Washington, I love you. I'm a big fan, seriously. Especially with your cursive font (and especially when you make it big so that we can read it!).

Found the commie

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

This thread feels like a void so far. Which is fine.

Anyway I am going to be voting the most suspicious person for President today and then seeing what happens. My President vote will be made very late into the day. I think that would be a fun way to play it.
Ahem......
no.

I think my entrance, being simply "yo", was effectively null.
I think Lyndon's entrance could be interpreted as forced or awkward.

Thus my "Hmmm", because I did not see how you could interpret my entrance as anything other than null.

Truman, I've looked at this, and it seems very fine to me, even towny: it seems Monroe is afraid of giving his trust away for communist scum to feast upon, and does not want to be pocketed by Kennedy. It would be a very strange way to make a forced scum entrance, wouldn't it?

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Found the commie

I was not aware of the existence of any Washington-worshipping commies!

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I'm just saying thread was scum free zone till Roosevelt walked in.

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

i don’t make reads d1 btw, that’s my meta

The foundation of American democracy is the participation of its citizens to political life. Without its citizens, America would be nothing at all, quite literally. The fact a president such as yourself fails to understand this makes me strongly dislike you; it is not that I believe you to be a communist yourself, but rather that your apathy furthers the goal of those who seek only to destroy our beloved country.

In other words, you're declaring yourself to be an apathetic potato (apotatotic?) that is of no use whatsoever and that only serves as a subject of doubt on your alignment. My wish right now would be to vote for you to go not in the Oval Office, but rather to the gallows, so that you do something for your country. Unfortunately, this is election day only.


Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

The more I read Madison's posts, the more I feel they are horribly unnatural. Perhaps his strange laughter has to do with it. Perhaps the fact he's so willing to sheep JFK and be pocketed by him also does. Either way, I do not trust him much.

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

I'm just saying thread was scum free zone till Roosevelt walked in.

Such unfounded slander is unworthy of your status, Mr. Kennedy! Plus, I am afraid you may have given your trust to James Madison too swiftly.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Such unfounded slander is unworthy of your status, Mr. Kennedy! Plus, I am afraid you may have given your trust to James Madison too swiftly.

Whomst said I was giving them any sort of lock town status.

Only one I have is Washington and I guess Truman for the mindmeld.

What are your thoughts on Truman?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

All I ask is people vote for the guy who had sexual relations with Marilyn Monroe

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

𝐹𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒶 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝒻 𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑜𝓇 𝓃𝑜𝓉. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒾𝓂𝓅𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐼 𝓀𝓃𝑜𝓌 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑜𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓁𝒾𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉. 𝐼 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇�� 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓂𝓎 𝒻𝓊𝓉𝓊𝓇𝑒. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓊𝓈𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑜𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂.

Find a better reason to read me than this. I would be writing in cursive no matter if I was employed by the British or not. It is simply the writing I know best. But it would be unfair of me to not accommodate for those who are unfamiliar with the text. I understand you are all from my future. Perhaps cursive is not used in the time period you are from.

At risk of repeating what was already said in reaction to this post, this is a very towny reaction; it is exactly what I would expect from a model American citizen who is devoted to his country. Hence, I propose that we elect George Washington as our President.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

At risk of repeating what was already said in reaction to this post, this is a very towny reaction; it is exactly what I would expect from a model American citizen who is devoted to his country. Hence, I propose that we elect George Washington as our President.

Part of me feels kinda tinfoily over how quick we all are townreading Washington.

Ugh I hate when I do this

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Whomst said I was giving them any sort of lock town status.

Only one I have is Washington and I guess Truman for the mindmeld.

What are your thoughts on Truman?

You were speaking in absolutes; it is only fair that I respond in the same manner.

I enjoy Mr. Truman's company; he seems genuine enough, and I quite like his read on Washington, despite the fact it is quite easily fakeable in my opinion. As for his wish to elect a scum president to run our country, I strongly disagree: a vote in the hands of the Mafia, who have a permanent chat (see the message we got before game started), means that they need one less townie to be misled before they can effectively commit MURDER against one of our citizens. Vote power is extremely powerful, much more than any of the power roles scum may have.


I am actually against using our President voting for people we like. By using it on people we find suspicious we are attempting to turn mafia power into mafia not power, and I like that use of the role. Getting two votes is, after all, unlikely to be too big of a deal for a well read town member.

For reference.

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Part of me feels kinda tinfoily over how quick we all are townreading Washington.

Ugh I hate when I do this

That is fair enough, but scum rarely wish to openly push for a wide townread on a teammate, so I believe the townreads to be either genuine or scum trying to pocket town. Of course, Washington is not necessarily lock town, as possible ties with the British may need to be investigated; but for now, he seems very trustable.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

That is fair enough, but scum rarely wish to openly push for a wide townread on a teammate, so I believe the townreads to be either genuine or scum trying to pocket town. Of course, Washington is not necessarily lock town, as possible ties with the British may need to be investigated; but for now, he seems very trustable.

What is your read on me mustache

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

I must bid you farewell, my friends, for other matters require my attention. I have given Mr. Washington my vote, at least for now.

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

What is your read on me mustache

You take a lot of space, with both fluff and content, on the political scene. I lean towards townreading you, but not very strongly, as you could well be a brave scum; this is especially true considering I do not really know you. Overall, I would call you 70/30 town.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I need the other presidents to come party with me and the interns and models before I decide who to vote for.

Not enough partying

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Just going to repeat I don't want to elect our top town read as president but our suspects.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

You take a lot of space, with both fluff and content, on the political scene. I lean towards townreading you, but not very strongly, as you could well be a brave scum; this is especially true considering I do not really know you. Overall, I would call you 70/30 town.

Fun fact 70/30 town is a slight wolf lean if you think about it.

[FM-Thomas Jefferson]

Jefferson didn't talk about me.

Sadge

You're quite right, Mr Kennedy. I concluded that the other gentlemen and their discussion around you seemed to be of a higher relevance.


He's just here in thread talking....even if it's nonsense? Haha idk....but he's talking and here...which is towny.....

As much as I like the amount of posts from the gentleman from Massachusetts, I must disagree simply because of the lack of content in said posts. My conclusion on Mr. Kennedy so far would be fairly null in alignment, as he has done nothing wrong however also not really done right. An example of this would be how he mentioned me not speaking with him, however also not commenting on the opinions in said post.


The more I read Madison's posts, the more I feel they are horribly unnatural. Perhaps his strange laughter has to do with it. Perhaps the fact he's so willing to sheep JFK and be pocketed by him also does. Either way, I do not trust him much.

I disagree with this gentleman from New York. I would argue that your own conversation with Mr. Kennedy is plenty more forced than what Mr. Madison is speaking of.


Such unfounded slander is unworthy of your status, Mr. Kennedy! Plus, I am afraid you may have given your trust to James Madison too swiftly.

This post also does not sit well with me, primarily due to what appears to be an attempt of a pocket disguised in civil discussion. However; I digress, perhaps I am looking to far into it currently.

In my conclusion I would like to say that I am displeased by the lack of meaningful discussion by some of the gentlemen here. For those of you with questions or comments for me I will gladly indulge a conversation.

[FM-Thomas Jefferson]

I need the other presidents to come party with me and the interns and models before I decide who to vote for.

Not enough partying

As per my above comment I would gladly party with you Mr. Kennedy, just give the word.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Would the gentleman from Virginia give their thoughts on my Monroe read?

[FM-Franklin D Roosevelt]

I like James' glasses.

[FM-Franklin D Roosevelt]

I meant James Monroe, I also got confused by their naming.

Anyways I like Washington's hand writing, he gets my vote.

FM-George Washington

[FM-George Washington]

𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇 𝒶 𝒷𝒾𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓈𝓅𝑒𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝒸𝒾𝓇𝒸𝓊𝓂𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒸𝑒𝓈.

𝐼𝒻 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝑜𝓊𝓉𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃- 𝓈𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝒶𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑜𝓁𝑒- 𝐼 𝓈𝓊𝑔𝑔𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝑜𝓃𝑔𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝓋𝑒𝒶𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉. 𝒲𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝑒𝓍𝓉𝓇𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓁𝒾𝓂𝒾𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓈𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝒻 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝓉𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃𝓃𝑒𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝓅𝓁𝒾𝓉 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓌𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝓂𝓊𝓁𝓉𝒾𝓅𝓁𝑒 𝒾𝓂𝓅𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒶𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓃𝒹𝒾𝓋𝒾𝒹𝓊𝒶𝓁𝓈. 𝐵𝑒 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓂𝒾𝓃𝒹𝒻𝓊𝓁 𝑜𝒻 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝒹𝒾𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒸𝒶𝓂𝓅𝒶𝒾𝑔𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉, 𝒶𝓈 𝐼 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝒾𝓃𝒻𝒾𝓁𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑜𝓇𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝓉𝓇𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇. 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃𝒶𝓁 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝒹𝑒𝒶𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝓊𝓇𝓃𝒸𝑜𝒶𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝓇𝒶𝒾𝓉𝑜𝓇𝓈, 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂 𝒶𝓃 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝒽.

I will offer a bit of speculation on our circumstances.

If you are employed outside of this election- such as being a power role- I suggest it would be stronger to not reveal that. We likely have an extremely limited selection of protective personnel that should not be split between multiple important individuals. Be very mindful of candidates that are actively campaigning to be president, as I believe it is in the interest of the British infiltrators to try to be elected to positions of power. I have personal experience dealing with turncoats and traitors, it is best not to give them an inch.


Just going to repeat I don't want to elect our top town read as president but our suspects.

𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓂𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓊𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒. 𝐼 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝑒𝒾𝑔𝓃 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝑒𝓍𝓉𝓇𝒶 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝓈 𝑔𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓇𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒶 𝓃𝑒𝑔𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝒸𝓉, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓌𝑒 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝓋𝑜𝒾𝒹 𝒹𝑜𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉.

I have given this much thought and have found that I disagree. I believe there is a reason why foreign elements being given extra day voting power is generally considered to be a negative effect, and we should attempt to avoid doing it.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇 𝒶 𝒷𝒾𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓈𝓅𝑒𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝒸𝒾𝓇𝒸𝓊𝓂𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒸𝑒𝓈.

𝐼𝒻 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝑜𝓊𝓉𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃- 𝓈𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝒶𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑜𝓁𝑒- 𝐼 𝓈𝓊𝑔𝑔𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝑜𝓃𝑔𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝓋𝑒𝒶𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉. 𝒲𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝑒𝓍𝓉𝓇𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓁𝒾𝓂𝒾𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓈𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝒻 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝓉𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃𝓃𝑒𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝓅𝓁𝒾𝓉 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓌𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝓂𝓊𝓁𝓉𝒾𝓅𝓁𝑒 𝒾𝓂𝓅𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒶𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓃𝒹𝒾𝓋𝒾𝒹𝓊𝒶𝓁𝓈. 𝐵𝑒 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓂𝒾𝓃𝒹𝒻𝓊𝓁 𝑜𝒻 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝒹𝒾𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒸𝒶𝓂𝓅𝒶𝒾𝑔𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉, 𝒶𝓈 𝐼 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝒾𝓃𝒻𝒾𝓁𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑜𝓇𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝓉𝓇𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇. 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃𝒶𝓁 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝒹𝑒𝒶𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝓊𝓇𝓃𝒸𝑜𝒶𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝓇𝒶𝒾𝓉𝑜𝓇𝓈, 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂 𝒶𝓃 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝒽.

I will offer a bit of speculation on our circumstances.

If you are employed outside of this election- such as being a power role- I suggest it would be stronger to not reveal that. We likely have an extremely limited selection of protective personnel that should not be split between multiple important individuals. Be very mindful of candidates that are actively campaigning to be president, as I believe it is in the interest of the British infiltrators to try to be elected to positions of power. I have personal experience dealing with turncoats and traitors, it is best not to give them an inch.



𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓂𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓊𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒. 𝐼 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝑒𝒾𝑔𝓃 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑔𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝑒𝓍𝓉𝓇𝒶 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝓈 𝑔𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓇𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒶 𝓃𝑒𝑔𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝒸𝓉, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓌𝑒 𝓈𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝓋𝑜𝒾𝒹 𝒹𝑜𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉.

I have given this much thought and have found that I disagree. I believe there is a reason why foreign elements being given extra day voting power is generally considered to be a negative effect, and we should attempt to avoid doing it.

Counterpoint: We can elect them, investigate them, and if wrong about suspicion then it's fine but if right then we have denied wolves the use of a night action by turning them into double voter.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I'm just campaigning for the memes. I don't think anyone is taking me seriously lol

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I usually say my usual motto but I'm jfk so I'm just going to talk about how I am serial cheater as my catchphrase

[FM-Harry S Truman]

I don't think anyone was taking you seriously. In truth we should all just vote who we want and see how that shakes out. It's ultimately unimportant early on to elect a President and only comes into play later once we uncover more information. I know I will be sticking to my strategy of electing the most suspicious person as I feel that counterintuitive play early in the game has benefits to town versus "oh look, the top town person who we gave a double vote died, how shocking."

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

I think we should not announce who we vote for because that is the golden ticket for mafia in regards to who to kill. Also pretty sure our votes are supposed to be anonymous FRANKLIN

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Alternatively, to not spread our votes out too much, (as compared to mafia that can co-ordinate their voting pattern) we declare 2 or 3 people of specific valuable-ness that we all agree to split our votes onto. So there aren’t any vanity votes on unpopular candidates. I suggest we agree on our strategy now.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Also i don’t townread anyone so far. You might say it’s in anyone’s interest to campaign for president, scum or town. So i don’t see it as town or scum indicative. I also laugh greatly at the guy that suggested we should read him based off meta in a game where even possibly alluding to your meta is enough to have you modkilled and banished to the shadow realm.

[FM-Richard Nixon]

cool story bro

hey you really showed him there bro

[FM-Richard Nixon]

𝐹𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒶 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓃 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝒻 𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝑒𝒹 𝒷𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑜𝓇 𝓃𝑜𝓉. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒾𝓂𝓅𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐼 𝓀𝓃𝑜𝓌 𝒷𝑒𝓈𝓉. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑜𝒹𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓊𝓃𝒻𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓁𝒾𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓍𝓉. 𝐼 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓂𝓎 𝒻𝓊𝓉𝓊𝓇𝑒. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓈𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓊𝓈𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝑜𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂.

Find a better reason to read me than this. I would be writing in cursive no matter if I was employed by the British or not. It is simply the writing I know best. But it would be unfair of me to not accommodate for those who are unfamiliar with the text. I understand you are all from my future. Perhaps cursive is not used in the time period you are from.

yeah it's appreciated but it doesn't necessarily make you town either. you'd just kind of be a jerk if you intentionally made your posts hard to read and people would stop reading them

[FM-Richard Nixon]

Hiya!

UwU Abraham Lincoln desu!

https://i.imgur.com/4hSJydg.jpg

might have to lock town tbh

[FM-Richard Nixon]

Part of me feels kinda tinfoily over how quick we all are townreading Washington.

Ugh I hate when I do this

sometimes people are just obv town

[FM-Richard Nixon]

Alternatively, to not spread our votes out too much, (as compared to mafia that can co-ordinate their voting pattern) we declare 2 or 3 people of specific valuable-ness that we all agree to split our votes onto. So there aren’t any vanity votes on unpopular candidates. I suggest we agree on our strategy now.

making maf have to choose between like 3 targets as opposed to a single one that was agreed upon in main thread is smarter, yeah

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

making maf have to choose between like 3 targets as opposed to a single one that was agreed upon in main thread is smarter, yeah

Gents as the rules states the elected President is announced at EoD.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

G'day gents

Personally I was already planning on doing this as a gimick for myself, however if others would like to join I would not be opposed.



Amen to that George, it is a shame that not all of these honorable gentlemen are able to read in to the more sophisticated text.



I concur that the first of a long list of gentlemen is in quite a good view for changing their gimick to accommodate the needs of other such gentlemen.



Fair. We'll see how this ages as we discuss more throughout the day. It feels fantastic not being restricted by a post cap currently.



Once again I concur with this gentleman from Texas. Discussing your meta in an anonymous game (no matter if you're lying about it or not) isn't really a good look just because you could be misleading other gentlemen into believing that you do something that you do not.

Perhaps I don't really understand, but could you rephrase this for me? For some reason what you said here doesn't really click at all.

For the time being I must leave you all to discussion, for I have matters to attend to that cannot wait (IRL). I bid all the gentlemen good day.

I was more afraid that the poor lad would suffer from a heart attack, I've heard there's a Kira guy that recklessly murders "softers", or something.

It seems to me that we have a couple ways to approach this particular election :
- we can elect the towniest of us all so that our protective personnel have a easier time protecting every valuable asset ;
- we can elect someone just below the towniest so that the scum of the earth will have to pick a target ;
- we can elect someone that's really not towny at all so that he either suddenly becomes a valuable target for scums or draws attention to himself which is something scum probably don't want happening.

I'd say these are the main ways to approach the issue at hand.

Every one has its own cons :
- the towniest of us all is already a target of choice, electing that person puts a lot of pressure on our defensive personnel, whose workforce is currently unknown to us ;
- the less towny you are, the more chances you have of actually being scum, but being elected president in that fashion means you have the trust of most, which makes this approach especially vulnerable to powerwolfing IMO ;
- less susceptible of powerwolfing IMO because there anyone elected will be under heavy scrutiny, and staying alive at all will be considered suspicious (for our defensive personnel will probably not be bothering defending the unassuming), BUT this method is very prone to giving votes to the opposition, probably making it harder to pilot.

After deliberation I personally deem only worthy of consideration the first and third methods. Therefore I oppose Lincoln's proposition there :

Alternatively, to not spread our votes out too much, (as compared to mafia that can co-ordinate their voting pattern) we declare 2 or 3 people of specific valuable-ness that we all agree to split our votes onto. So there aren’t any vanity votes on unpopular candidates. I suggest we agree on our strategy now.

As IMO only 2 votes must be considered : the laziest of us to either force him into shape or die for our great country and the most virtuous of us, in which case we must be reading to die for the man.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

force him to die for our great country*
ready* not reading to die

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Another way to think about this would be to consider who scum would want elected the least ?

In that case, alas, because a scummy president such as you, nixon, could still carry the factional kill, it doesn't seem too much of a bother and thus I think scum wouldn't mind very much.
The one thing to remember is that the president is elected for life, making the election an effective audit, as you will never ever be allowed to use your night action again, which probably is a pain in the arse for many, scum and townies alike.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Gents as the rules states the elected President is announced at EoD.
In that case we should target a not too obvtown player. So scum will either kill em or we can guess if they are scum/town that scum let live.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

In that case we should target a not too obvtown player. So scum will either kill em or we can guess if they are scum/town that scum let live.

That's wifom lol

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Not exactly imo, i think it would be quite informative.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Not a hill i’m gonna die on though if ppl are determined to do something else.
Tbh this day presidential election thing is really boring to me and i just wish it was over as soon as possible so we can start playing for real.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Not a hill i’m gonna die on though if ppl are determined to do something else.
Tbh this day presidential election thing is really boring to me and i just wish it was over as soon as possible so we can start playing for real.

Then what the fuck are you waiting for, old man ? I don't see a single reason why the "presidential election thing" prevents you from "playing for real". Don't Spit in the Soup, We All Gotta Eat.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

I object to such strong language in this congress.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

So anyway that was a lovely discussion about a mechanic but also Monroe is wolf. Also I don't want to be president I feel like I would be a bad one.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Everyone let's chill.

We need more content from others. Is it too late to pressure?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Nixon, both Roosevelts, and Jefferson come out to party with us

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Where's Monroe?

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Fun fact 70/30 town is a slight wolf lean if you think about it.
I see what you mean, but you're twisting the meaning of "wolf lean" to make it fit objective statistics instead of subjective opinion on one's alignment; everyone whom I do not have a read on is 50/50 to me, even though there very likely are more town than scum in that pool (because it comprises most players, since they have been rather unimpressive). Nice thinking, though, sir.


As much as I like the amount of posts from the gentleman from Massachusetts, I must disagree simply because of the lack of content in said posts. My conclusion on Mr. Kennedy so far would be fairly null in alignment, as he has done nothing wrong however also not really done right. An example of this would be how he mentioned me not speaking with him, however also not commenting on the opinions in said post.
I am in total agreement with your rejection of activity reads. I will say, though, that JFK looks like he truly wants meaningful discussion to happen, even though he wants to have lighthearted fun as well. The issue is that we are still quite early into D1, and the discussion did not have time to become truly highly meaningful, which impairs our ability to evaluate JFK's true intent.


I disagree with this gentleman from New York. I would argue that your own conversation with Mr. Kennedy is plenty more forced than what Mr. Madison is speaking of.

This post also does not sit well with me, primarily due to what appears to be an attempt of a pocket disguised in civil discussion. However; I digress, perhaps I am looking to far into it currently.

In my conclusion I would like to say that I am displeased by the lack of meaningful discussion by some of the gentlemen here. For those of you with questions or comments for me I will gladly indulge a conversation.
Perhaps you do not read Madison's tone nearly the same as I do; that being said, if I am to be convinced of Madison's good intent, it will have to be done through his meaningful and towny activity, which has so far been lacking - it is not that he is more inactive than average, but rather that his posts seem to have little content. As for myself, it is not because I express myself in a somewhat formal manner that my intent is forced. Plus, I have provided reads with reasonable justifications, whereas he beds Spanish women and townreads JFK for existing "even if [what he is saying is] nonsense", according to himself:


I bedded a Spanish woman last night, I prefer my seduction to be applied in real life where it has intrinsic value, even if said value is hedonistic by design.

And I know it's stereotypical for someone to boast of their sexual accomplishments in an online board, but it's true. I have a certain capacity for seduction daily, at home I apply that to mafia, abroad I apply that to the local ladies (who are quite voluptuous and coquettishly leading).


Jfk is probably my top town right now......

He's just here in thread talking....even if it's nonsense? Haha idk....but he's talking and here...which is towny.....

Finally, Mr. Jefferson, I have a hard time seeing how rejecting JFK's initial doubts on me and attacking Madison could be a pocketing attempt. In fact, I do not even know who the target of such an attempt would be in this case. Could you please elaborate?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Bettlejuice, well kinda

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I rather yall didn't town read me based off post count because I'm a high volume poster regardless of alignment

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Just going to repeat I don't want to elect our top town read as president but our suspects.

You seem to have failed to address this:


I enjoy Mr. Truman's company; he seems genuine enough, and I quite like his read on Washington, despite the fact it is quite easily fakeable in my opinion. As for his wish to elect a scum president to run our country, I strongly disagree: a vote in the hands of the Mafia, who have a permanent chat (see the message we got before game started), means that they need one less townie to be misled before they can effectively commit MURDER against one of our citizens. Vote power is extremely powerful, much more than any of the power roles scum may have.

I will say, before you bring it up, that the argument consisting of "town presidents are doomed to die" is not necessarily valid: in the setup (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50352), Doctor, Bus Driver and Body Double all are protective roles that may protect the duly elected President from anti-American attacks. It seems reasonable enough to me to assume that there are protective roles in the game, considering two facts:
- the setup has 13 players, which generally makes some protection appropriate
- the setup's prominent mechanic is the presidential one, and the lack of a protective role would put all town presidents at great risk, as you said yourself

Plus, in the event there is no protective role in the game, the possibility of one existing could be enough to save a town president from death, as cowardly scum may decide to avoid attacking him; ultimately, it boils down to WIFOM. Thus, giving town the presidency can easily be beneficial. And, as I have already said, giving scum the presidency is giving one more vote power to scum, which is almost equivalent to giving one extra member to the scum team, making town lynches easier, scum lynches harder, and LYLO closer. This is even more true considering the fact there are no scum roles that give the Mafia an extra kill power (the Bruiser kill replacing the factional one); making a scum lose his power is thus rather insignificant in comparison to the previously mentioned benefits scum would get from having one of their own elected.

As a last argument, counter-playing the mechanic like this also makes it harder to analyze potential pairings from the election's results. Speaking of pairings, who do you think could be anti-American scum, Truman?

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Then what the fuck are you waiting for, old man ? I don't see a single reason why the "presidential election thing" prevents you from "playing for real". Don't Spit in the Soup, We All Gotta Eat.

Blunt, but effective. I agree.

Also, I have just read your post about who should be elected (I had missed it), and I thoroughly agree with your line of thinking. The first option seems optimal to me; if you want details, see my latest post. While you could well be faking pro-townness, I like you and give you an early town lean.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Dear President Roosevelt,

On the matter of 70/30, Don't take it to mean too much Roosevelt, I just like statistics when it comes to pointing out things like odds. Twisting things is after all sometimes how you reveal more about them. This is mere sophistry though, so I will stop.

I hear you about presidents being protected. I have not played in this setup before and day one I am not overly fond of digging too deeply into power structures. I just thought it would be a shame if we elected someone who is town but they were also a very good town power which is then negated by being president. It was a simple enough premise. Perhaps ultimately a flawed one. I don't tend to like thread consensus for eliminations or extra mechanics like voting because that too makes it difficult to see if the mafia team was forced to make a difficult choice behind the scenes. I feel it is hard to know what our actions will or will not reveal until those actions take place.

I guess that is to say is I don't know the proper course on this matter, which is kind of fun actually. I will leave the matter of politics to others for now.

As for the last question asked of me, as I have stated multiple times by now, I do not like Monroe's entrance very much nor am I overtly impressed by their rebuttal being "cool story bro."

Yours,

President Truman

[FM-George Washington]

yeah it's appreciated but it doesn't necessarily make you town either. you'd just kind of be a jerk if you intentionally made your posts hard to read and people would stop reading them

𝐼 𝓈𝑒𝒸𝑜𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉.

I second this line of thought.

[FM-Woodrow Wilson]

I object to such strong language in this congress.

give me liberty or give me death

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

Dear President Roosevelt,

On the matter of 70/30, Don't take it to mean too much Roosevelt, I just like statistics when it comes to pointing out things like odds. Twisting things is after all sometimes how you reveal more about them. This is mere sophistry though, so I will stop.

I hear you about presidents being protected. I have not played in this setup before and day one I am not overly fond of digging too deeply into power structures. I just thought it would be a shame if we elected someone who is town but they were also a very good town power which is then negated by being president. It was a simple enough premise. Perhaps ultimately a flawed one. I don't tend to like thread consensus for eliminations or extra mechanics like voting because that too makes it difficult to see if the mafia team was forced to make a difficult choice behind the scenes. I feel it is hard to know what our actions will or will not reveal until those actions take place.

I guess that is to say is I don't know the proper course on this matter, which is kind of fun actually. I will leave the matter of politics to others for now.

As for the last question asked of me, as I have stated multiple times by now, I do not like Monroe's entrance very much nor am I overtly impressed by their rebuttal being "cool story bro."

Yours,

President Truman

I wish to reply "fair enough" to all of those statements. If I have anything to add, it is that Monroe does need to do more, because "unimpressive" is the word that qualifies them best.

[FM-James Monroe]

I deem Teddy to be a loyal American. Not a British bone in his body.

[FM-Theodore Roosevelt]

I deem Teddy to be a loyal American. Not a British bone in his body.

I thank you, but would like to know your reasons. You are not trustable enough for me to accept jumping into your pocket, as cozy as it may look.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I would love to make a read list but I also need more content from my null pile. Am I asking for too much?

[FM-James Monroe]

Truman and Kennedy are not both British, for what it's worth. I do not believe their "mindmeld" interaction from earlier to be something two Brits would bother to do with each other.

[FM-Dwight D Eisenhower]

Kennedy feels towny on page 1 in terms of trying to engage others but quite a bit of questions about things that are nothing really about the game.

James Monroe casting the first shade on page 1 and talking about his own entrance being awkward feels like a town viewpoint.

Harry Truman's scumread and reasoning on Monroe feels like a good read given the explanation regardless of Monroe's alignment.
Monroe's response to it felt like towny confidence or arrogance if we want to take it that far.

Page 2 James Madison is awkward with his townread of JFK.

The only thing Jefferson spoke about was the George Washington writing style and nothing really about reads, not good.

Page 3 I feel like Truman has the right idea about maybe not voting our top town, but voting the suspects is maybe not a good idea.
This is maybe towny minus the suspects part.

Page 4 I skimmed, big whoop, wanta fight aboutit?

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John F Kennedy
Harry Truman
James Monroe
George Washington

I am townreading these fellow American Presidents.

James Madison
Thomas Jefferson

These two fellow "Americans" I'm scumreading.

[FM-Dwight D Eisenhower]

Actually disregard that part about agreeing with Truman about not voting top town today for President, because I didn't read the start. Totally fine with handing it to my top townread.

Hello Kennedy.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

I agree with Eisenhower's notion that Monroe's response to my scum read of them is generally a town vibe type of situation.

However coming from Monroe it feels like more of the same manufactured phrasing. I will not be accepting anything from Monroe but beautiful, undiluted content right into the veins of this great nation to feel better about their standing in this game.

[FM-Dwight D Eisenhower]

I agree with Eisenhower's notion that Monroe's response to my scum read of them is generally a town vibe type of situation.

However coming from Monroe it feels like more of the same manufactured phrasing. I will not be accepting anything from Monroe but beautiful, undiluted content right into the veins of this great nation to feel better about their standing in this game.

Fair.

[FM-James Monroe]

I thank you, but would like to know your reasons. You are not trustable enough for me to accept jumping into your pocket, as cozy as it may look.

That's fine; I do not wish for you to jump into my pocket. As for my reasons - I thought your entrance into the thread was natural, and your stance against Truman's "voting for scum" idea seemed as if you were honestly arguing in America's best interest. I believe a Brit would be fine with Truman's plan, or at least I do not believe they would openly campaign against it. I agree with what you've said about scum being president harming America more than it helps us - I think most Brits would be fine with sacrificing a role for a vote (which brings the number of mislynches they need to win from 4 to 3), and it's not as if us Americans can ever be 100% sure that someone is scum (even with a red check from a sheriff, since there is a tailor and bus driver in the game), so it's fairly possible for a British president to avoid getting lynched at any point in the future even if they were made president for being a suspected Brit day 1.

I also think the general tone of your posts is just genuinely solvey, but the two above reasons are the more easily explainable reasons.

[FM-James Monroe]

Kennedy feels towny on page 1 in terms of trying to engage others but quite a bit of questions about things that are nothing really about the game.

James Monroe casting the first shade on page 1 and talking about his own entrance being awkward feels like a town viewpoint.

Harry Truman's scumread and reasoning on Monroe feels like a good read given the explanation regardless of Monroe's alignment.
Monroe's response to it felt like towny confidence or arrogance if we want to take it that far.

Page 2 James Madison is awkward with his townread of JFK.

The only thing Jefferson spoke about was the George Washington writing style and nothing really about reads, not good.

Page 3 I feel like Truman has the right idea about maybe not voting our top town, but voting the suspects is maybe not a good idea.
This is maybe towny minus the suspects part.

Page 4 I skimmed, big whoop, wanta fight aboutit?

------------------------------------

John F Kennedy
Harry Truman
James Monroe
George Washington

I am townreading these fellow American Presidents.

James Madison
Thomas Jefferson

These two fellow "Americans" I'm scumreading.

A solid and understandable reads list.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Speaking of this, while I personally felt good about Kennedy due to mindmelding twice with the gentleman about situations, let us be wary of being too quick to judge those who most frequently speak before this nation. Too many fools have bought the words of charismatic but unscrupulous men and paid a heavy price for it. Let us establish early that we will be judged by our deeds not our ability to hit 'Reply'

[FM-James Monroe]

(even with a red check from a sheriff, since there is a tailor and bus driver in the game),


framer*
tailor is something different in this I guess
also apparently British bus driver is called "Chauffeur" which I didn't see beforehand

[FM-John F Kennedy]

The reason I want nulls to post more because I like to spend day ones observing people.

Does the vote count include anon votes?

Also a bunch of stuff posted. I'm home now so I can get to it

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I deem Teddy to be a loyal American. Not a British bone in his body.

Is there a reason why?

I feel somewhat the same but I want to see if our reasoning are the same

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Truman and Kennedy are not both British, for what it's worth. I do not believe their "mindmeld" interaction from earlier to be something two Brits would bother to do with each other.

To be quite frank, I have seen it before with two soviet spies doing that sort of thing. Is it rare, yes. But just wanted to add that

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Actually disregard that part about agreeing with Truman about not voting top town today for President, because I didn't read the start. Totally fine with handing it to my top townread.

Hello Kennedy.

Hello Eisenhower ✨

I feel like your reads list checks off stuff that I have been feeling like so far in the game.

Any reason why I'm the top townread?

Also idk I just feel like that's how Madison types but I do want more content from them.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

That's fine; I do not wish for you to jump into my pocket. As for my reasons - I thought your entrance into the thread was natural, and your stance against Truman's "voting for scum" idea seemed as if you were honestly arguing in America's best interest. I believe a Brit would be fine with Truman's plan, or at least I do not believe they would openly campaign against it. I agree with what you've said about scum being president harming America more than it helps us - I think most Brits would be fine with sacrificing a role for a vote (which brings the number of mislynches they need to win from 4 to 3), and it's not as if us Americans can ever be 100% sure that someone is scum (even with a red check from a sheriff, since there is a tailor and bus driver in the game), so it's fairly possible for a British president to avoid getting lynched at any point in the future even if they were made president for being a suspected Brit day 1.

I also think the general tone of your posts is just genuinely solvey, but the two above reasons are the more easily explainable reasons.

Monroe where was this when I needed it more. Towny

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Speaking of this, while I personally felt good about Kennedy due to mindmelding twice with the gentleman about situations, let us be wary of being too quick to judge those who most frequently speak before this nation. Too many fools have bought the words of charismatic but unscrupulous men and paid a heavy price for it. Let us establish early that we will be judged by our deeds not our ability to hit 'Reply'

Love u too

[FM-Dwight D Eisenhower]

Hello Eisenhower ✨

I feel like your reads list checks off stuff that I have been feeling like so far in the game.

Any reason why I'm the top townread?

Also idk I just feel like that's how Madison types but I do want more content from them.

Any reason to not have you as my top townread?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Monroe sounds like that spent three hours (this is not meant to be literal) overthinking their entrance to sound null to people. I cannot fathom why any member of town would look at their first post of 'Yo', and use the phrase 'effectively null.'

It's like, so manufactured.

I saw you say the thread was towny and thought to myself 'that's funny to say' and then didn't even bother to comment on it. Monroe though, Monroe feels jumpy. Too jumpy for someone who naturally posts neat things like 'Yo' as their first post. Therefore, the Yo wasn't natural and therefore Monroe has increased mafia chances due to these chaining thoughts of mine.

Truman has your thoughts on Monroe changed with his engagement in the party?

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Any reason to not have you as my top townread?

That's fair. Just wondering why since others have stated I might have posted a lot but it's been fluff and some content.

Just want to know where your mind is at

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Part of me feels kinda tinfoily over how quick we all are townreading Washington.

Ugh I hate when I do this

Update: I'm V tinfoily with how quickly people are pushing in Washington to be president for not really posting any game related content.

Can we please talk about that. Yes I tr him but I don't trust him enough to be town leader.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

That is fair enough, but scum rarely wish to openly push for a wide townread on a teammate, so I believe the townreads to be either genuine or scum trying to pocket town. Of course, Washington is not necessarily lock town, as possible ties with the British may need to be investigated; but for now, he seems very trustable.

Roosevelt, who do you think has not had a genuine tr on Washington so far?

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Truman has your thoughts on Monroe changed with his engagement in the party?

Not really. I believe my worries can only be assuaged through more direct means of solving from Monroe. Once I see how their thought expand as the topic goes on can I see how they operate can I put to bed my earlier doubt.

Basically of all of the people who have posted so far Monroe for me right now has the highest bar for me not accepting anything about solving as being a pro town action. I would like to hear more thoughts on players and less about mechanical theory from the gentleman.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Alternatively, to not spread our votes out too much, (as compared to mafia that can co-ordinate their voting pattern) we declare 2 or 3 people of specific valuable-ness that we all agree to split our votes onto. So there aren’t any vanity votes on unpopular candidates. I suggest we agree on our strategy now.

Lincoln, who do you suggest for the 2-3 people wagons for pres

[FM-George Washington]

Kennedy feels towny on page 1 in terms of trying to engage others but quite a bit of questions about things that are nothing really about the game.

James Monroe casting the first shade on page 1 and talking about his own entrance being awkward feels like a town viewpoint.

Harry Truman's scumread and reasoning on Monroe feels like a good read given the explanation regardless of Monroe's alignment.
Monroe's response to it felt like towny confidence or arrogance if we want to take it that far.

Page 2 James Madison is awkward with his townread of JFK.

The only thing Jefferson spoke about was the George Washington writing style and nothing really about reads, not good.

Page 3 I feel like Truman has the right idea about maybe not voting our top town, but voting the suspects is maybe not a good idea.
This is maybe towny minus the suspects part.

Page 4 I skimmed, big whoop, wanta fight aboutit?

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John F Kennedy
Harry Truman
James Monroe
George Washington

I am townreading these fellow American Presidents.

James Madison
Thomas Jefferson

These two fellow "Americans" I'm scumreading.

𝐼 𝒻𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝑔𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓂𝓎 𝑜𝓌𝓃 𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑔𝒶𝓂𝑒, 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑒𝓍𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝒻 𝒥𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃, 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝐼 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓎𝑒𝓉 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝑜𝓅𝒾𝓃𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝓃.

I find these thoughts to be closely aligning with my own at this point in the game, with the exception of Jefferson, who I do not yet have an opinion on.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

yeah it's appreciated but it doesn't necessarily make you town either. you'd just kind of be a jerk if you intentionally made your posts hard to read and people would stop reading them


might have to lock town tbh

I don't like both of these posts side by side.

Nixon is giving commie vibes.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

69 posts already. I have a funny story about 69 and Anita Ekberg. Whew lads, that one chick knew how to make herself memorable that's for sure.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

I don't like both of these posts side by side.

Nixon is giving commie vibes.

I do believe we should allow President Nixon to joke about marking someone town for using Japanese culture in an unconventional manner.

[FM-Dwight D Eisenhower]

That's fair. Just wondering why since others have stated I might have posted a lot but it's been fluff and some content.

Just want to know where your mind is at

Actual answer it's just overall comfortability while being super active and not at all forced.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Lincoln, who do you suggest for the 2-3 people wagons for pres
It's hard for me to focus on all players in this game. I'd rather just see the more active players that seem to have an grip on this game come with suggestions so i can give my comments on that.

[FM-George Washington]

To be quite frank, I have seen it before with two soviet spies doing that sort of thing. Is it rare, yes. But just wanted to add that

𝒴𝑜𝓊 𝓀𝑒𝑒𝓅 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 "𝓈𝑜𝓋𝒾𝑒𝓉𝓈", 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓂. 𝒜𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓈𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽?

You keep referring to "soviets", but I have never heard of this term. Are these an ally of the British?


Update: I'm V tinfoily with how quickly people are pushing in Washington to be president for not really posting any game related content.

Can we please talk about that. Yes I tr him but I don't trust him enough to be town leader.

𝐼 𝒻𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝓇𝒶𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒 𝒶𝓈 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁. 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝓋𝒾𝒹𝑒𝒹 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝒻𝑒𝓌 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝓎 𝑜𝓌𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝓊𝓈 𝒻𝒶𝓇. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝓊𝓈𝒽𝑒𝒹 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝓈𝑜𝓁𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝑜𝒻𝒻 𝓂𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔. 𝒲𝒽𝒾𝓁𝑒 𝓂𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓈 𝒻𝒶𝓃𝒸𝓎, 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶 𝑔𝑜𝑜𝒹 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝑒𝒹.

I find that to be rather strange as well. I have provided very few thoughts of my own thus far. I am being pushed for the position solely off my handwriting. While my handwriting is fancy, that is not a good reason for me to be elected.


Roosevelt, who do you think has not had a genuine tr on Washington so far?

𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝑜𝓇𝑔𝒶𝓃𝒾𝒸 𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝑒𝓇𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝒻𝑜𝓁𝓁𝑜𝓌𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉, 𝐼 𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓇𝒶𝑔𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝑜 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝓊𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝓋𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝑔𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉. 𝒜𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓊𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝑒𝒹𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈.

This is a very organic line of thought, and even if there is no merit in following it, I encourage you to continue investigating it. Any one of us could be seditious.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

It's hard for me to focus on all players in this game. I'd rather just see the more active players that seem to have an grip on this game come with suggestions so i can give my comments on that.

Fine. I nominate myself, Monroe, and Kennedy for a deluge of polarizing campaigns. Comment away, good sir.

[FM-George Washington]

𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓂𝓎 𝓉𝓌𝑜 𝓉𝑜𝓅 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝒾𝒸𝑒𝓈 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒, 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓇𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓁𝓎. 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇 𝐼 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓊𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑒𝓍𝓉𝓇𝒶 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁.

Kennedy and Eisenhower are my two top choices for the vote, currently. Eisenhower in particular I feel would use the extra day presence well.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Fine. I nominate myself, Monroe, and Kennedy for a deluge of polarizing campaigns. Comment away, good sir.
Why these players?

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Why these players?

I won't say. I am afraid while I can accept that you wish to have a focused target, perhaps you should do some investigation and give thoughts so that I can see if you could perhaps be a German spy or a loyal American.

[FM-George Washington]

Fine. I nominate myself, Monroe, and Kennedy for a deluge of polarizing campaigns. Comment away, good sir.

𝐼 𝒻𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓈𝒾𝓈𝓉𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓋𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈𝓁𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝒹𝑒𝒶𝓁𝓈. 𝒫𝓁𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝒶𝒷𝑜𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝓊𝓇𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇.

I find this to be inconsistent with your previously stated ideals. Please elaborate further.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I do believe we should allow President Nixon to joke about marking someone town for using Japanese culture in an unconventional manner.

I... Need more content from them. So far them and Fdr aren't giving me anything but bad vibes so far


Actual answer it's just overall comfortability while being super active and not at all forced.

That's an acceptable and valid answer. I will take it. Consider me pocketed

[FM-Harry S Truman]

𝐼 𝒻𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓈𝒾𝓈𝓉𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓋𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈𝓁𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝒹𝑒𝒶𝓁𝓈. 𝒫𝓁𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝒶𝒷𝑜𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒻𝓊𝓇𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇.

I find this to be inconsistent with your previously stated ideals. Please elaborate further.

I would ask that President Washington give me some leeway to pursue a discussion with President Lincoln before I am more openly forthright with my intent.

[FM-George Washington]

I would ask that President Washington give me some leeway to pursue a discussion with President Lincoln before I am more openly forthright with my intent.

𝒱𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁. 𝐿𝑒𝑒𝓌𝒶𝓎 𝑔𝓇𝒶𝓃𝓉𝑒𝒹.

Very well. Leeway granted.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Vibe check:

Good vibes
Eisenhower
Washington
Truman

Bad vibes
Jefferson
F. Roosevelt (can change with more content)
Nixon

Everyone else:

Need more content

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓂𝓎 𝓉𝓌𝑜 𝓉𝑜𝓅 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝒾𝒸𝑒𝓈 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒, 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓇𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓁𝓎. 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇 𝐼 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓊𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑒𝓍𝓉𝓇𝒶 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁.

Kennedy and Eisenhower are my two top choices for the vote, currently. Eisenhower in particular I feel would use the extra day presence well.

I agree in regards to Eisenhower.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝒴𝑜𝓊 𝓀𝑒𝑒𝓅 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 "𝓈𝑜𝓋𝒾𝑒𝓉𝓈", 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓃𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓂. 𝒜𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓈𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽?

You keep referring to "soviets", but I have never heard of this term. Are these an ally of the British?



𝐼 𝒻𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝓇𝒶𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒 𝒶𝓈 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁. 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝓋𝒾𝒹𝑒𝒹 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝒻𝑒𝓌 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝓎 𝑜𝓌𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝓊𝓈 𝒻𝒶𝓇. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝓊𝓈𝒽𝑒𝒹 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝓈𝑜𝓁𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝑜𝒻𝒻 𝓂𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔. 𝒲𝒽𝒾𝓁𝑒 𝓂𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓌𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓈 𝒻𝒶𝓃𝒸𝓎, 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶 𝑔𝑜𝑜𝒹 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓂𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝑒𝒹.

I find that to be rather strange as well. I have provided very few thoughts of my own thus far. I am being pushed for the position solely off my handwriting. While my handwriting is fancy, that is not a good reason for me to be elected.



𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝑜𝓇𝑔𝒶𝓃𝒾𝒸 𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝓃𝑜 𝓂𝑒𝓇𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝒻𝑜𝓁𝓁𝑜𝓌𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉, 𝐼 𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓇𝒶𝑔𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝑜 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝓊𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝓋𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝑔𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉. 𝒜𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓊𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝑒𝒹𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈.

This is a very organic line of thought, and even if there is no merit in following it, I encourage you to continue investigating it. Any one of us could be seditious.

Washington, do you think the push in you to be president by people that haven't been engaging eith the party much is scum motivated.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

I won't say. I am afraid while I can accept that you wish to have a focused target, perhaps you should do some investigation and give thoughts so that I can see if you could perhaps be a German spy or a loyal American.
Annoying... *cough* I mean... *cough cough* OK!

So i think you are more likely town than scum cus you have this annoying brash attitude that scum typically don't have unless they powerwolf, and you also seem to really be incessantly trying to make null players towntell which is usually not something scum will bother with.

I thought Monroe's "hmm" in response to Kennedy's: "thread feels townie!" was townie. If Monroe was scum he could easily play along here and be like "yeah, we're townie! WOOHOO!" But instead he reacted with suspicion which i liked.

Kennedy is pretty towny for reasons i cannot state due to the rules. So to state an legitimate reason to justify my totally not "based on illegal manners of read gathering" i'll just say that i think his general thread presence and attempts to get discussions going in pretty townie.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

So that's a good enough suggestion for me. I think most likely 3/3 town in that pile. At worst, 2/3 town.

[FM-George Washington]

Washington, do you think the push in you to be president by people that haven't been engaging eith the party much is scum motivated.

𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓁𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝒾𝒸𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓁𝓎 𝓅𝓊𝓈𝒽 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂𝓂𝓎 𝒾𝓈 𝑜𝓃𝓁𝓎 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓁𝒹 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝐼'𝓂 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂. 𝒜𝓈 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂, 𝐼 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂 𝓂𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓋𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹. 𝐼 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝑜𝒻 𝒶 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒 𝓂𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑜 𝑜𝒻𝒻𝒾𝒸𝑒 𝑜𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝓌𝓃, 𝑜𝓇 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓅𝒾𝒸𝓀 𝓂𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑜𝑜 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝓉𝑒𝓁𝓁 𝒾𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝓂𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓋𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒾𝓉.

The world in which the early push to make me president is scummy is only in the world where I'm scum. As I am not scum, I do not think it is scum motivated. I cannot think of a reason why British elements would choose to vote me into office over one of their own, or why they would pick me in particular. It is too early to tell if there is any other motivation behind it.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

My avatar is impacting me... it's making me... tired... more boring... less interesting... i'm becoming.... an dull old-timey person...
power levels sinking.........

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓁𝒹 𝒾𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝒾𝒸𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓁𝓎 𝓅𝓊𝓈𝒽 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓂𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂𝓂𝓎 𝒾𝓈 𝑜𝓃𝓁𝓎 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓁𝒹 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝐼'𝓂 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂. 𝒜𝓈 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂, 𝐼 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓂 𝓂𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓋𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹. 𝐼 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝑜𝒻 𝒶 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒 𝓂𝑒 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑜 𝑜𝒻𝒻𝒾𝒸𝑒 𝑜𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝒾𝓇 𝑜𝓌𝓃, 𝑜𝓇 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓅𝒾𝒸𝓀 𝓂𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇. 𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑜𝑜 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝓉𝑒𝓁𝓁 𝒾𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝓂𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓋𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒾𝓉.

The world in which the early push to make me president is scummy is only in the world where I'm scum. As I am not scum, I do not think it is scum motivated. I cannot think of a reason why British elements would choose to vote me into office over one of their own, or why they would pick me in particular. It is too early to tell if there is any other motivation behind it.

The only scum motivation I can think of is that to get townie points for pushing you to be president but like that would involve bragging and doing LAMIST to push against being sr.

I could see scum avoiding being president due to losing their power roles.

[FM-Dwight D Eisenhower]

I'll be back in about an hour or two will be able to get more done then.

[FM-George Washington]

The only scum motivation I can think of is that to get townie points for pushing you to be president but like that would involve bragging and doing LAMIST to push against being sr.

I could see scum avoiding being president due to losing their power roles.

𝒮𝑜 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝓋𝑜𝒾𝒸𝑒𝒹 𝓅𝓊𝒷𝓁𝒾𝒸 𝒷𝒶𝒸𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓇 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝒹𝑜𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉 𝓉𝑜 "𝒿𝓊𝓂𝓅 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒷𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓌𝒶𝑔𝑜𝓃", 𝓈𝑜 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝒶𝓎? 𝐼 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝒸𝑒𝓇𝓉𝒶𝒾𝓃 𝓂𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓇𝑜𝑜𝓂. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝒶 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓁𝒹 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝑜𝒸𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔.

So you feel that it is likely that one of the people who voiced public backing of me in the thread earlier was doing it to "jump on the bandwagon", so to say? I could believe that from certain men in this room. I am interested to hear who you believe would be doing that in a world where that is what is occurring.

[FM-George Washington]

I could see scum avoiding being president due to losing their power roles.

𝒮𝒸𝓊𝓂 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝑜 𝓊𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝒾𝓇 𝒻𝒶𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃𝒶𝓁 𝓀𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒶𝓃𝓎𝓌𝒶𝓎. 𝒲𝒽𝓎 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝒶 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓂 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓀𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓀𝑒𝑒𝓅 𝓈𝑜𝓂𝑒 𝓈𝑒𝓂𝒷𝓁𝒶𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓃𝒶𝓁 𝓅𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇? 𝐼 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝑜𝑜 𝒹𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓇𝒹𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝒶𝓈𝓈 𝓊𝓅.

Scum would be losing power to use their factional kill anyway. Why not elect a president who will perform the kill and keep some semblance of internal power? I think that is too dastardly to pass up.

[FM-George Washington]

𝐸𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎, 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑜𝓅𝓅𝑜𝓇𝓉𝓊𝓃𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒸𝑜𝓈𝓉 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶𝓊𝒹𝒾𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒶𝓈 𝒶 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝓈𝓅𝓎 𝒾𝓈 𝒻𝒶𝓇 𝓁𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓈𝑜𝓂𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓈𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝒾𝓉 𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒.

Essentially, the opportunity cost for being audited as a British spy is far lower than some elements are wishing to make it out to be.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝒮𝑜 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝑒𝑜𝓅𝓁𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝓋𝑜𝒾𝒸𝑒𝒹 𝓅𝓊𝒷𝓁𝒾𝒸 𝒷𝒶𝒸𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝒻 𝓂𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓇 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝒹𝑜𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒾𝓉 𝓉𝑜 "𝒿𝓊𝓂𝓅 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒷𝒶𝓃𝒹𝓌𝒶𝑔𝑜𝓃", 𝓈𝑜 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝒶𝓎? 𝐼 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝒸𝑒𝓇𝓉𝒶𝒾𝓃 𝓂𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓇𝑜𝑜𝓂. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝒾𝓃𝓉𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓇 𝓌𝒽𝑜 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓃 𝒶 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓁𝒹 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝑜𝒸𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔.

So you feel that it is likely that one of the people who voiced public backing of me in the thread earlier was doing it to "jump on the bandwagon", so to say? I could believe that from certain men in this room. I am interested to hear who you believe would be doing that in a world where that is what is occurring.

I think I have hinted at it earlier with the vibes check but fdr so far has felt like he fit the mold of a spy. Hasn't engaged, dropped a public vote on you, and left the game thread.

[FM-Harry S Truman]

Annoying... *cough* I mean... *cough cough* OK!

So i think you are more likely town than scum cus you have this annoying brash attitude that scum typically don't have unless they powerwolf, and you also seem to really be incessantly trying to make null players towntell which is usually not something scum will bother with.

I thought Monroe's "hmm" in response to Kennedy's: "thread feels townie!" was townie. If Monroe was scum he could easily play along here and be like "yeah, we're townie! WOOHOO!" But instead he reacted with suspicion which i liked.

Kennedy is pretty towny for reasons i cannot state due to the rules. So to state an legitimate reason to justify my totally not "based on illegal manners of read gathering" i'll just say that i think his general thread presence and attempts to get discussions going in pretty townie.


Thank you President Lincoln.

President Washington, I simply nominated myself for a control, my top suspect to see what President Lincoln would say, and the top poster for similar reasons as the second. It was not a genuine list of suggestions but merely a test for Lincoln. What does everyone think of Lincoln's reads?

I thought the reads were reasonably developed, although I am not sure if the annoyance with being tasked with simple assignments is a town reaction or an over the top one.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Anyway am I really that obvious/easy to read?

[FM-George Washington]

I think I have hinted at it earlier with the vibes check but fdr so far has felt like he fit the mold of a spy. Hasn't engaged, dropped a public vote on you, and left the game thread.

𝐼 𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉.

I agree with this sentiment.

[FM-George Washington]

Thank you President Lincoln.

President Washington, I simply nominated myself for a control, my top suspect to see what President Lincoln would say, and the top poster for similar reasons as the second. It was not a genuine list of suggestions but merely a test for Lincoln. What does everyone think of Lincoln's reads?

I thought the reads were reasonably developed, although I am not sure if the annoyance with being tasked with simple assignments is a town reaction or an over the top one.

𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝒹𝒾𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓂𝑜𝓃𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒶 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒸𝑒𝓈𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽, 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓈𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝓈. 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝑒 𝓈𝒽𝒶𝓇𝑒- 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝑜𝓌𝓃- 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒹𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓁𝑜𝓅𝑒𝒹. 𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝑜𝓃 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁𝓈 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒. 𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒 𝓂𝑒𝓃 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒿𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓇𝑔𝓊𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝑔𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃𝒶𝓁𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒹𝑜𝑒𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉. 𝐼 𝓂𝒶𝓎 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝓊𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒹𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝒶𝓈 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝓊𝑒𝓈.

𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒽 𝓃𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝑒𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝒹𝒾𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝒻𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓌𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂, 𝑜𝓇 𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝒻𝒾𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝓎 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝒻𝒾𝓃𝑒𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓉𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝓎𝓌𝒶𝓎. 𝒟𝑒𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓂𝒾𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒽𝒾𝒸𝒽 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝓂𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓈𝑜𝓁𝒹 𝑜𝓃 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝑔𝓃𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓎𝑒𝓉.

Lincoln did not demonstrate a process that I agree with, for any of these reads. Even the reads that we share- that being that you and Kennedy are town- are very strangely developed. The read on you in particular feels very strange. Some men are just argumentative in general. Personality does not reflect employment. I may perhaps continue prodding Lincoln as time continues.

It is worth noting that Lincoln either did not identify that you were testing them, or identified it and chose to play within the confines of your test anyway. Determining which is the case will likely effect my read on them. I am not sold on an alignment yet.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

I am not sure if the annoyance with being tasked with simple assignments is a town reaction or an over the top one.
The annoyance was at not answering my question beforehand. :P

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Personality does not reflect employment.
Your assumption that personality decides my reads is wrong. And reflects an misunderstanding of your part.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝒹𝒾𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓂𝑜𝓃𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒶 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒸𝑒𝓈𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽, 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓈𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝓈. 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝑒 𝓈𝒽𝒶𝓇𝑒- 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝑜𝓌𝓃- 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒹𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓁𝑜𝓅𝑒𝒹. 𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝑜𝓃 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁𝓈 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓃𝑔𝑒. 𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒 𝓂𝑒𝓃 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒿𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓇𝑔𝓊𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝑔𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁. 𝒫𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃𝒶𝓁𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒹𝑜𝑒𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓁𝑜𝓎𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉. 𝐼 𝓂𝒶𝓎 𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒽𝒶𝓅𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝓊𝑒 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒹𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝒶𝓈 𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝓊𝑒𝓈.

𝐼𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒽 𝓃𝑜𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝑒𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝒹𝒾𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝒻𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓌𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂, 𝑜𝓇 𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝒻𝒾𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝓎 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝒻𝒾𝓃𝑒𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓉𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝓎𝓌𝒶𝓎. 𝒟𝑒𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓂𝒾𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒽𝒾𝒸𝒽 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝒶𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝒸𝓉 𝓂𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓈𝑜𝓁𝒹 𝑜𝓃 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝑔𝓃𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓎𝑒𝓉.

Lincoln did not demonstrate a process that I agree with, for any of these reads. Even the reads that we share- that being that you and Kennedy are town- are very strangely developed. The read on you in particular feels very strange. Some men are just argumentative in general. Personality does not reflect employment. I may perhaps continue prodding Lincoln as time continues.

It is worth noting that Lincoln either did not identify that you were testing them, or identified it and chose to play within the confines of your test anyway. Determining which is the case will likely effect my read on them. I am not sold on an alignment yet.

I think Lincoln came to the right conclusion irt me for what it's worth. Their reasoning is valid

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

To be correct, it is the specific chosen playstyle and tonal way of manner, of "personalities" (players) that decide whether they are of the scum or town alignment.

[FM-Abraham Lincoln]

Now even though my avatar prompts me to declare that i only drink black coffe without sugar, i must admit that i have an sweet craving for desserts so i shall take my temporary leave from here to go to the local store in my area to buy some food to make that hunger pang go away. Be back soon.

[FM-James Madison]

yeah it's appreciated but it doesn't necessarily make you town either. you'd just kind of be a jerk if you intentionally made your posts hard to read and people would stop reading them

This is a bad post because you're turning it into "you're a jerk if you don't give the un-cursivised words" from "wolfy if you do that" which makes it more personal than it should be and is a bad manipulative tactic

[FM-James Madison]

Also i don’t townread anyone so far. You might say it’s in anyone’s interest to campaign for president, scum or town. So i don’t see it as town or scum indicative. I also laugh greatly at the guy that suggested we should read him based off meta in a game where even possibly alluding to your meta is enough to have you modkilled and banished to the shadow realm.

And people keep coming back to this and exaggerating on the person who went "it's my meta to not have reads di" and saying that they're suspect for it when it's completely nai and fmpov they weren't trying to convince people of anything. It was a statement and now it's over, and the people still pulling on it should be looked at

[FM-James Madison]

I rather yall didn't town read me based off post count because I'm a high volume poster regardless of alignment

My read isn't on postcount, but the fact that you just keep talking when everyone else has quieted down.

It sure sounds like postcount but it has to do with what you say and how it sounds to me

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I got a Chai frappe with an alfregatto style espresso shot and almond croissant

[FM-John F Kennedy]

My read isn't on postcount, but the fact that you just keep talking when everyone else has quieted down.

It sure sounds like postcount but it has to do with what you say and how it sounds to me

That's valid.

[FM-George Washington]

I got a Chai frappe with an alfregatto style espresso shot and almond croissant

𝒲𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒻𝓊𝒸𝓀 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝒶𝓁𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶𝒷𝑜𝓊𝓉

What the fuck are you talking about

[FM-James Madison]

I am not reading Washington's posts and I don't really plan to

[FM-James Madison]

Lincoln and Nixon are two I'd like to pressure more


FM-Abraham Lincoln

[FM-George Washington]

I am not reading Washington's posts and I don't really plan to

𝒜𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒'𝓈 𝓃𝑜𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑒𝓁𝓈𝑒 𝐼 𝒸𝒶𝓃 𝒹𝑜 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝓎𝑜𝓊.

At this point there's nothing else I can do for you.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Lincoln and Nixon are two I'd like to pressure more


FM-Abraham Lincoln

.... We are voting to Elim btw. It's voting to invoke someone to be president aka townnleader

[FM-John F Kennedy]

.... We are voting to Elim btw. It's voting to invoke someone to be president aka townnleader

Arent**

[FM-James Madison]

Oh what

No d1 elim

[FM-James Madison]

Ok nvm I'll be back tomorrow then

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Oh what

No d1 elim

This feels like spewed town to me and I hate it.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Update: I'm V tinfoily with how quickly people are pushing in Washington to be president for not really posting any game related content.

Can we please talk about that. Yes I tr him but I don't trust him enough to be town leader.

Ahem. I suggest you look at yourself in the mirror, lad.
I think I severely dislike you but I don't think you're scum.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

𝐸𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎, 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑜𝓅𝓅𝑜𝓇𝓉𝓊𝓃𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒸𝑜𝓈𝓉 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶𝓊𝒹𝒾𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒶𝓈 𝒶 𝐵𝓇𝒾𝓉𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝓈𝓅𝓎 𝒾𝓈 𝒻𝒶𝓇 𝓁𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓃 𝓈𝑜𝓂𝑒 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓈𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝒾𝓉 𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒.

Essentially, the opportunity cost for being audited as a British spy is far lower than some elements are wishing to make it out to be.

I wholeheartedly agree. This is why I like roosevelt's argumentation and persona.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Speaking of this, while I personally felt good about Kennedy due to mindmelding twice with the gentleman about situations, let us be wary of being too quick to judge those who most frequently speak before this nation. Too many fools have bought the words of charismatic but unscrupulous men and paid a heavy price for it. Let us establish early that we will be judged by our deeds not our ability to hit 'Reply'

I can't say I find it reasonable to put dear Kennedy above null either.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

It's hard for me to focus on all players in this game. I'd rather just see the more active players that seem to have an grip on this game come with suggestions so i can give my comments on that.

This pisses me off.


Annoying... *cough* I mean... *cough cough* OK!

This pisses me off, too.


So i think you are more likely town than scum cus you have this annoying brash attitude that scum typically don't have unless they powerwolf, and you also seem to really be incessantly trying to make null players towntell which is usually not something scum will bother with.

I thought Monroe's "hmm" in response to Kennedy's: "thread feels townie!" was townie. If Monroe was scum he could easily play along here and be like "yeah, we're townie! WOOHOO!" But instead he reacted with suspicion which i liked.

Kennedy is pretty towny for reasons i cannot state due to the rules. So to state an legitimate reason to justify my totally not "based on illegal manners of read gathering" i'll just say that i think his general thread presence and attempts to get discussions going in pretty townie.

This is either fine or pretty good, depending on how it develops. Interesting regardless, enough so that I ought to get you outta the null bin. I don't think I'd get that pissed off if stuff came from scum, too.

[FM-Lyndon B Johnson]

Blunt, but effective. I agree.

Also, I have just read your post about who should be elected (I had missed it), and I thoroughly agree with your line of thinking. The first option seems optimal to me; if you want details, see my latest post. While you could well be faking pro-townness, I like you and give you an early town lean.

As I mentioned above, I did like these posts and you made a compelling argument.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

Ahem. I suggest you look at yourself in the mirror, lad.
I think I severely dislike you but I don't think you're scum.

Have you not seen my content today?

Regardless of looking in the mirror, I was the first to tr Washington and I'm also the one questioning the push to make him town leader. So like what is my scum motivation.

I don't appreciate the shady remarks on me when today I am clearly trying to build a worldview and trying to get peoples reads and opinions on the Game state.

So kindly bugger off.

[FM-John F Kennedy]

I can't say I find it reasonable to put dear Kennedy above null either.

Oh please, I regret ever having you as my veep