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NzForever
February 16th, 2022, 12:53 AM
Abstainers is pussy and lazy, Jester haunt should kill guilty as well as abstainers. You only deserve to be immune to Jester haunt from an Innocent vote

Also, Jesters should be allowed to select which guilty or abstainer dies

RufusPL
February 16th, 2022, 12:57 AM
I see no reason to give Jester ability to choose, he is dead and has no alignment and no goal left after dying. Abstaining "meta" will not really change regardless and even if it did it would only make winning as Jester a lot harder.

NzForever
February 16th, 2022, 12:59 AM
Jesters easy enough to win as. Win rates are quite high, unless the Jester dies at night. Abstaining is weak and abstainers should be punished by Jester guilt. Giving JEster the ability to choose is to reduce RNG and it would be funny for Jester to purposly haunt a Town government

RufusPL
February 16th, 2022, 01:05 AM
The problem with abstaining is mostly for non town roles, especially Mafia/Triad. Most of the time Mafia/Triad has very easy time spotting Jesters and neither Guilty or Inno works for them. If they Guilty they can die even though they know he is Jester, if they Inno he will most likely not be lynched so he will not waste a lynch and suicide a Town role. Abstaining is the only solution really for any non town role who spots a Jester and denying them that will make Jesters unlynchable, it's better to inno the Jester for Mafia/Triad than risk losing one of their own alongside it, that's basically 2 votes lost for almost nothing. Even moreso for Neutrals who just straight up lose if they die so it's not worth the risk for them either.

NotPaopan
February 16th, 2022, 01:12 AM
Jester should be able to decide who to kill tho ^^

NzForever
February 16th, 2022, 01:18 AM
Jester should be able to decide who to kill tho ^^

Yes it reduces RNG. Jester is more likely to scum side as well if he can pick the kill. Abstaining is weak and abstainers should be just as punished for it as they are not saving the Jester

Varcron
February 20th, 2022, 06:51 PM
If gov is revealed it's basically an instant gov death just to troll the town, better leave it to RNG as it is a benign role and not an evil role.

Abstainers being affected could be interesting though and make jester a bit harder to win as.