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OzyWho
July 5th, 2021, 07:04 AM
Headlines around the internet say "Serial rapist released from jail after 3 years" or something like that.

Meanwhile, reading through Bill Cosby's wiki - it looks more like he was spending 3 years in jail unnecessarily because it took so long before the Supreme Court overturned his conviction, and his law firm settled a defamation lawsuit against 7 women who were lying about being raped by him or whatever. I say lying in italics because it's more the case of they can't prove it.

I understand that "serial rapist released from prison" makes for a good headline. But between trusting journalist headlines or the official ruling of the juridical system - I chose to believe that the man is innocent, even if it's based on the matter of the women being unable to prove they're right.

What do you think?

A different forum (https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/serial-rapist-released-from-jail-after-3-years.671339/) compared it to some OJ case (what's that?): "At least he served his time, OJ straight up murdered people and walked away."

SuperJack
July 5th, 2021, 07:07 AM
I think it's near impossible to have an accurate opinion. So just ignore w/e

OzyWho
July 5th, 2021, 07:08 AM
I think it's near impossible to have an accurate opinion. So just ignore w/e
But on the other side, better to release ones needs for drama on people you don't know over those who are closer to you.
:calix:

SuperJack
July 5th, 2021, 07:11 AM
But on the other side, better to release ones needs for drama on people you don't know over those who are closer to you.
:calix:

Im good

OzyWho
July 5th, 2021, 07:17 AM
Im good
Are you? (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48930-Our-hero-our-orange-our-zz?p=934875&viewfull=1#post934875)

DJarJar
July 5th, 2021, 12:06 PM
Headlines around the internet say "Serial rapist released from jail after 3 years" or something like that.

Meanwhile, reading through Bill Cosby's wiki - it looks more like he was spending 3 years in jail unnecessarily because it took so long before the Supreme Court overturned his conviction, and his law firm settled a defamation lawsuit against 7 women who were lying about being raped by him or whatever. I say lying in italics because it's more the case of they can't prove it.

I understand that "serial rapist released from prison" makes for a good headline. But between trusting journalist headlines or the official ruling of the juridical system - I chose to believe that the man is innocent, even if it's based on the matter of the women being unable to prove they're right.

What do you think?

A different forum (https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/serial-rapist-released-from-jail-after-3-years.671339/) compared it to some OJ case (what's that?): "At least he served his time, OJ straight up murdered people and walked away."

It is comparable to OJ's case in the sense that he already admitted to several of his crimes but he can't be prosecuted for it now because of technicalities in the law. He is a serial rapist, he admitted in the civil case as much.

HentaiManOfPeace
July 5th, 2021, 12:13 PM
I say this is an example where mob vigilantism is needed when justice has failed. The only reason why this failed was because there wasn't enough evidence to incriminate this sexual scoundrel.

BananaCucho
July 5th, 2021, 11:21 PM
Oh,oh-oh! You see, the kids these days, they listen to the rap music, which gives them the brain damage. With the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin', they don't know what the jazz is all about. Y'see, jazz is like Jello pudding... no, that's not it. Jazz is like Kodak film... no, that's not right neither. I've got it, jazz is like the new Coke - it'll be around forever.

Helz
July 5th, 2021, 11:42 PM
Headlines around the internet say "Serial rapist released from jail after 3 years" or something like that.

Meanwhile, reading through Bill Cosby's wiki - it looks more like he was spending 3 years in jail unnecessarily because it took so long before the Supreme Court overturned his conviction, and his law firm settled a defamation lawsuit against 7 women who were lying about being raped by him or whatever. I say lying in italics because it's more the case of they can't prove it.

I understand that "serial rapist released from prison" makes for a good headline. But between trusting journalist headlines or the official ruling of the juridical system - I chose to believe that the man is innocent, even if it's based on the matter of the women being unable to prove they're right.

What do you think?

A different forum (https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/serial-rapist-released-from-jail-after-3-years.671339/) compared it to some OJ case (what's that?): "At least he served his time, OJ straight up murdered people and walked away."

Who knows. The guy has money and coulda launched a PR campaign. I remember years back reading about how he had doubled down in some hardcore way that he was innocent and was fighting to clear his reputation as a person. I can only imagine if thats true how he must feel.

But I also kinda see that a real potential. I feel like if he was flagrantly wrongly convicted he would receive some huge pay-out from the state for damages and that generally speaking whenever theres 'half truths' to a situation on the surface some level of the situation is justified. Nobody accused Mr. Rogers of being a rapist. Just saying..

-Edit
Looked into it a bit. It appears he is guilty as hell. From my limited understanding he was granted some level of immunity from prosecution for a criminal case so that a civil case could move forward and a portion of his testimony in that civil case was used in a later criminal case. He was let out simply because of a technicality- not because he was any shade of innocent.

OzyWho
July 6th, 2021, 04:58 PM
Helz lol I was about to come in and say "wtf guys you were supposed to disagree with this!" (wrt the I choose to believe... stuff).

Then I saw your edit :laugh:

DJarJar
July 6th, 2021, 05:05 PM
Helz lol I was about to come in and say "wtf guys you were supposed to disagree with this!" (wrt the I choose to believe... stuff).

Then I saw your edit :laugh:

:evil: :mad:

HentaiManOfPeace
July 6th, 2021, 06:26 PM
Just saying..


This is the guy you all count on to call people out for being trolls? He didn't even read the article!

Helz
July 6th, 2021, 07:37 PM
This is the guy you all count on to call people out for being trolls? He didn't even read the article!
I must have really gotten under your skin there. Or more likely your just really dedicated to pulling a smurf off given your esoteric reference to the Dunning-Kruger effect in a context that suggested you did not quite understand the concept well enough to casually mention it..

But yes, I do my own independent research because we live in a day and age where you can make any argument based on how you pick your sources.

HentaiManOfPeace
July 6th, 2021, 08:42 PM
Or more likely your just really dedicated to pulling a smurf off given your esoteric reference to the Dunning-Kruger effect in a context that suggested you did not quite understand the concept well enough to casually mention it..

You're*

Helz
July 6th, 2021, 08:48 PM
You're*

Save your archaic grammar check for bullshit English papers. This is a forum for a mod for a video game sir : )

OzyWho
July 6th, 2021, 11:14 PM
:evil: :mad:

Don't be angry :(

Marshmallow Marshall
July 7th, 2021, 05:03 PM
I won't pretend to have researched anything on the topic. However, I'll say that it's always very hard to prove things when it comes to sexual crimes unless the culprit has been literally retarded in his crime, because it's always one's word against the other's. Justice system has a very hard time taking care of that, which leads to justified loss of confidence in it. And then you have the problem of people accusing others publicly, which sadly has a bit of a witch-hunting side because anyone can accuse anyone else. I think it's unsolvable, honestly. It's all about witnesses and victims speaking up and winning their trials, and about crushing "rape culture" wherever it exists (not saying it's everywhere, but also not saying it's nowhere).