S-FM American Flag Nightless (10P)

[Stealthbomber16]

10 Daykills Nightless
Alternative Title: Black Flag Nightless but its in the United States

Goon
Goon
Goon
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Rules
All standard S-FM Rules apply
Pictures are allowed within reasonable size. Hopefully I don't need to specify what "reasonable size" is.
Videos are allowed as long as autoplay is off.

Mechanics
Days are infinite. There are no nights.
Lynch method is majority.
Mafia shares a day chat.

Special Mechanics
Every role has a 1-use daykill ability which they may use to kill another player. Players may not daykill if a daykill has already occurred on that day.
The day immediately ends on a daykill. Players are not allowed to post after a player daykills.

Rolecards

Citizen
You have a legal right to bear arms under the 2nd amendment.
You have a 1-use daykill. Activate the daykill by typing -daykill [player]. You cannot post or daykill after another player has daykilled on the same day.

Goon
You have a legal right to bear arms under the 2nd amendment.
You have a 1-use daykill. Activate the daykill by typing -daykill [player]. You cannot post or daykill after another player has daykilled on the same day.
Your teammates are X, and Y. Your day chat link is [here].

Wincons
Mafia: Eliminate the town or be in a situation where the elimination of the town cannot be stopped with any remaining weapons they have.
Town: Eliminate the mafia.

[Stealthbomber16]

Thought I'd go ahead and whip up this shitpost real quick while it was fresh on my mind.

[blinkskater]

Sign.

[Stealthbomber16]

Marshmallow Marshall setup is ready for review :)

[OzyWho]

Marshmallow Marshall setup is ready for review :)
Blackflag = town lose if reduced to 3 members, Mafia if reduced to 1 member.
With that in mind, given that mafia can each shoot, Day1 is LyLo for Town. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Lumi]

Blackflag = town lose if reduced to 3 members, Mafia if reduced to 1 member.
With that in mind, given that mafia can each shoot, Day1 is LyLo for Town. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Given the setup I'm assuming the name is meant to be more of a pun than actual black flag rules.

So if town does a mislynch and all three mafia shoot, yes it will technically be 3v3, but all three town still have their shots to take out mafia and regain majority

[Lumi]

Also this setup is hilarious 10/10

[Oberon]

Change lynch to plurality with majority. Pure majority sucks if you get inactives

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This is why Americans need to regulate firearms, damnit. Review in progress... Needless to say, this will be marked as Experimental lol. It could be interesting as a discipline test for townies, so it's not that trolly, btw!

What are the win conditions?

Ozy has a very important point: town starts at LYLO. That's bad. I suggest you add townies or remove a scum, preferably the former because else the game is likely to end instantly lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Change lynch to plurality with majority. Pure majority sucks if you get inactives

I'm afraid plurality lynching at the end of the universe's existence may be pointless.


Days are infinite. There are no nights.

[Oberon]

I'm afraid plurality lynching at the end of the universe's existence may be pointless.
lol good point

[Stealthbomber16]

If mafia chooses to use all 3 guns on days 2, 3 and 4 after a mislynch or misfirein a 3v3 situation, I wouldn't end the game because even though town doesn't have majority they still have 2 or 3 guns left to get it back. Mafia would need to be in a situation where they either have eliminated all town or be in a situation where the elimination of all town is inevitable, such as in a tie with more guns than the remaining town or 1v3 where mafia has used all their guns on the town and the last town has a gun still.

With that in mind the wincons would have to be as follows

Mafia: Eliminate the town or be in a situation where the elimination of the town cannot be stopped with any remaining weapons they have.
Town: Eliminate the mafia.

I also don't think with the wincons spelled out that way that town needs another citizen. The game won't just end with equal majority- town still has a way out of the situation if they fire correctly. Kind of like a 1v1 mafia vs veteran scenario. It is true that mafia can get straight to an endgame in theory if all 3 mafia coordinate shots at the start of days, but that puts them at a severe disadvantage.

7v3 -> town misfire -> 6v3 -> town misfire -> 5v3 would be the theoretical scenario where town has lost because mafia can now shoot the remaining 3 people with guns, but if the town arrives first and shoots a mafia member before they shoot town (or even after they've shot town) then the game isn't over. In this hypothetical situation, mafia also can't fire a single time until day 3.

What I would do in this game if/when I host it is get all players in a discord server and do an @everyone whenever the day opens so that mafia doesn't have an advantage on day opening coordination.

[Stealthbomber16]

And yeah the name is a pun.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If mafia chooses to use all 3 guns on days 2, 3 and 4 after a mislynch or misfirein a 3v3 situation, I wouldn't end the game because even though town doesn't have majority they still have 2 or 3 guns left to get it back. Mafia would need to be in a situation where they either have eliminated all town or be in a situation where the elimination of all town is inevitable, such as in a tie with more guns than the remaining town or 1v3 where mafia has used all their guns on the town and the last town has a gun still.

With that in mind the wincons would have to be as follows

Mafia: Eliminate the town or be in a situation where the elimination of the town cannot be stopped with any remaining weapons they have.
Town: Eliminate the mafia.

I also don't think with the wincons spelled out that way that town needs another citizen. The game won't just end with equal majority- town still has a way out of the situation if they fire correctly. Kind of like a 1v1 mafia vs veteran scenario. It is true that mafia can get straight to an endgame in theory if all 3 mafia coordinate shots at the start of days, but that puts them at a severe disadvantage.

7v3 -> town misfire -> 6v3 -> town misfire -> 5v3 would be the theoretical scenario where town has lost because mafia can now shoot the remaining 3 people with guns, but if the town arrives first and shoots a mafia member before they shoot town (or even after they've shot town) then the game isn't over. In this hypothetical situation, mafia also can't fire a single time until day 3.

What I would do in this game if/when I host it is get all players in a discord server and do an @everyone whenever the day opens so that mafia doesn't have an advantage on day opening coordination.

Please add the win conditions to the OP, this is not Wild Wild Wasteland!
well, not EXACTLY wild wild wasteland...

And yes, the setup seems fine considering those unusual win conditions. My suggestion was based on the assumption the setup had standard win conditions.

Approved as Experimental. Do you want to be added to the mini queue?

[Stealthbomber16]

Please add the win conditions to the OP, this is not Wild Wild Wasteland!
well, not EXACTLY wild wild wasteland...

And yes, the setup seems fine considering those unusual win conditions. My suggestion was based on the assumption the setup had standard win conditions.

Approved as Experimental. Do you want to be added to the mini queue?

Sure

[Stealthbomber16]

Put me in the queue

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Put me in the queue

Done. Just so you know, you're pretty far on the queue :P.

[oliverz144]

It could be interesting as a discipline test for townies, so it's not that trolly, btw!



PQRnHack
I think this setup is something for both of us

[ChannelMiner]

Does Lynch end the day?

[Stealthbomber16]

Does Lynch end the day?

Yes.

You can vote with the name tags, like so:

deathworlds

You can get a real-time vote count at the top of the page by clicking the vote count button.
(It doesn’t count my vote because I’m the host, but it will work for the game.)