S-FM Eternal Conflict (Off Queue Game Ongoing)

[AIVION]

DAY 1 OF HIS RECKONING IS AT HAND!



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It's that time of year where the birds are singing... and the flowers are blooming. On days like these... People like you...

SHOULD BE PLAYING FM! *Insert Sans the skeleton picture here*

But no seriously, welcome to all ye sinners and those of the benign. This day marks the day of the end. The Word hath ended, 2020 actually was too much and 2021 is now here and with it bring the armies of heaven and hell to do battle upon the plains of our world. Earth is dying and people are revolting. Satan decided this is the perfect time to unleash his demons and the Antichrist upon the world and feast upon our souls to grow his army of the damned.

However, this didn't sit well with God for God is all knowing and almighty and sended his strongest angels and holy men to meet the devils army in a battle for the ages. It will be something the history books will always remember.

Or not, because if heaven loses... everything will burn and be forgotten. Let's find out what happens!







Alive:
Dark Magician
Marshmallow Marshall
Hybrid Richard Dawkins - Superjack Solo account
SamsungLyssa - Bwcporscha/Goatse Archon.
Wiisp
Grayswandir
MartinGG99
yzb25
Leto II - Now replaced with Varcron
Paul - Now replaced with Samson
Helz
S-FM Magoroth
Bahkieh

Smited:
No one's met their maker just yet!





Link to setup here: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/46872-The-Eternal-Conflict-(13P)

with 13 players remaining, it is 7

REMINDER! This is a 3 week long game. I mentioned it before but just reiterating it here now: the point is to post as you can. So feel absolutely no rush! Of course if you literally dont post much at all for 3 weeks then you and I will have some talking to do.. :(

Day 1 Ends January 27th at 2:00 PM EST:
Will put a timer here but for now 3 weeks is a long time ahead of us xD

[AIVION]

You may now post as you can! Have fun everyone! <3

[Leto II]

I am God-Emperor Leto II,

Follow my rule and humanity will be led down The Golden Path. We shall exterminate the unholy and put an end to this Eternal Conflict!


I believe that you all have been deceived.
Paul is not Paul the Apostle from Old Terra. He is, in fact, Paul Atreides. Muad'Dib, The Preacher, The Dune Messiah. His Jihad cost the lives of over 60 billion people and now he deceives you into thinking that he is someone that he is not!
We must keep an eye on Paul.

But for now, I have a question for all of you. When do you think is a proper time for a God such as myself to Smite down the unholy? I want clear and honest answers only.

[Grayswandir]

They shall be burnt with Hunger
And devoured with burning Heat
And with bitter Destruction
I will also send the Teeth of Beasts upon them
With the Poison of Serpents of the Dust.

[yzb25]

Hi. I thought this would be like, anxiety-inducing af but now I'm in it I realize this is super chill if you have literally weeks to mull over reads and can just go awol for days and take a break lol. I'm reading thru the setup rn.

Gonna be interesting to see how pressure works psychologically over such extreme time periods. Idk if some forms of pressure will even exist in the same way. I think we should be open to early hammers. Not suggesting we play this like a 48h game, I get ppl wanna chill. But if there's at least a decent threat of getting lynched after a week there'll be much more potential for AI tells.

I'm reading thru the setup rn. I don't get why god would ever not use the check over the heal. Using the heal instead seems insanely risky and fps-ish. w.r.t. Leto's question, I think the kill should probably be saved for later on to be used in a POE-ish sort of way. It shouldn't just be thrown away on day 1. And if there's a god CC war later then the kill can resolve it for us if god still has it. I think the same is true of the check.

[yzb25]

In the spirit of the setup, if I post too much I'll try and put some informal post cap on the nonsense I spew to let ppl catch up. But given how lurky even this daystart seems that probably won't be necessary xD.

[Wiisp]

As an avid player of long day phases
1. pace yourself
2. Don't slank
3. Vote early and/or a lot, being stingy with your vote means we see less pressure and the game is slower.
4. If we ever no yeet I will end you all

[Leto II]

Hi. I thought this would be like, anxiety-inducing af but now I'm in it I realize this is super chill if you have literally weeks to mull over reads and can just go awol for days and take a break lol. I'm reading thru the setup rn.

Gonna be interesting to see how pressure works psychologically over such extreme time periods. Idk if some forms of pressure will even exist in the same way. I think we should be open to early hammers. Not suggesting we play this like a 48h game, I get ppl wanna chill. But if there's at least a decent threat of getting lynched after a week there'll be much more potential for AI tells.

I'm reading thru the setup rn. I don't get why god would ever not use the check over the heal. Using the heal instead seems insanely risky and fps-ish. w.r.t. Leto's question, I think the kill should probably be saved for later on to be used in a POE-ish sort of way. It shouldn't just be thrown away on day 1. And if there's a god CC war later then the kill can resolve it for us if god still has it. I think the same is true of the check.
Interesting post.

I think that this setup could be anxiety-inducing only for the Scum. Therefore someone talking about their own experience regarding anxiety is what I find interesting in it's own.

What exactly have we got here? (I will put some words on yzb25's mouth to make my point across)


The 1st paragraph expresses relief regarding the lack of anxiety.
The 2nd paragraph expresses irritation regarding the lack of pressure that the Scums could feel.

I want everyone to take a moment and contemplate on the train of thought that went behind of making that post, it might be important.

What are your soul reads on yzb25's frame of mind for when he made that post? Please take your time. Share your opinions.

yzb25 I think your thoughts regarding the proper use of God's powers are spot on.

Grayswandir Don't ignore questions. And I hope you will keep the fluffing to a minimum this game. 3 weeks per day makes it easy to flood the thread and make it unproductive. I'm sure you know that.

[Leto II]

As an avid player of long day phases
1. pace yourself
2. Don't slank
3. Vote early and/or a lot, being stingy with your vote means we see less pressure and the game is slower.
4. If we ever no yeet I will end you allYour input is appriciated.
yzb25

[Wiisp]

This game seems pretty damn balanced in terms of other games I've seen on this site tbh.
Leto II
I would like him to answer specifically what would be stress inducing before I go that route

[yzb25]

This game seems pretty damn balanced in terms of other games I've seen on this site tbh.
Leto II
I would like him to answer specifically what would be stress inducing before I go that route

imagine having suspicions on someone for literally weeks. Seeing someone's posts as manipulative / malicious is very painful normally. But now I'm in it I kinda realize this is gonna be more like "eh, I think this, this and this is bullshit" then that's it. It's not like you're not gonna be carrying that weight for weeks.

I'm p null on wiisp and leto. Maybe a townlean on leto if I squint really hard, but the slot seems kinda systematic so they could probably make that kind of analysis of my post irrespective of my alignment.

Scum probably are tempted to take a week off to reach nirvana before they post. I'ma begin by scumreading ppl who I suspect are lurking this / may try to lurk this.

S-FM Magoroth

[Wiisp]

Ohh I know that feeling, when I first came to this site, I was super unpleasant to play with, it did consistently get better results, but like I'd rather treat my scum leans as human beings, rather than dirt. Cause the point is for everyone to at least try to have fun

[yzb25]

yeah and you're gonna have so much time to move past the emotional biases underneath your reads. My reads are gonna be rly objective cuz after a week I'm not gonna give a fck XD

[yzb25]

yeah and you're gonna have so much time to move past the emotional biases underneath your reads. My reads are gonna be rly objective cuz after a week I'm not gonna give a fck XD

objectively bad, maybe. But objective nonetheless XD

[Wiisp]

yzb25
how much do you know of Leto? is he usually this serious straight out of the gate?

[yzb25]

yzb25
how much do you know of Leto? is he usually this serious straight out of the gate?

the account is new

[yzb25]

the account is new

I guess they may be a smurf, but I can't see that stated anywhere. So there's no viable meta read of the slot afaik

[Wiisp]

ohh an anon account, which means they are hiding from meta
Wonder what they are afraid of

[Grayswandir]

Ohh I know that feeling, when I first came to this site, I was super unpleasant to play with, it did consistently get better results, but like I'd rather treat my scum leans as human beings, rather than dirt. Cause the point is for everyone to at least try to have fun

No! Unleash that pro-town righteous anger and smite the scum with divine fury!

[Grayswandir]

Tbh Wiisp saying this could be AI ^^ Wiisp could be a downright asshole to his scumreads lmao, it was so hilarious. Wiisp could potentially be trying to be ‘nicer’ bc shitting on ppl as scum is kinda meh, and it doesn’t paint as much of a target on him if he plays nice.

FWIW, I totally won’t mind if you start calling ppl idiots for misreading :P I find that shit hilarious, especially since the way you did it wasn’t really that toxic.

[Wiisp]

Tbh Wiisp saying this could be AI ^^ Wiisp could be a downright asshole to his scumreads lmao, it was so hilarious. Wiisp could potentially be trying to be ‘nicer’ bc shitting on ppl as scum is kinda meh, and it doesn’t paint as much of a target on him if he plays nice.

FWIW, I totally won’t mind if you start calling ppl idiots for misreading :P I find that shit hilarious, especially since the way you did it wasn’t really that toxic.The only reason I fall back into my older playstyle is if I really need to control the game as wolf, or stop town from playing poorly

you played with me? I dont remember you from my old games

[Grayswandir]

imagine having suspicions on someone for literally weeks. Seeing someone's posts as manipulative / malicious is very painful normally. But now I'm in it I kinda realize this is gonna be more like "eh, I think this, this and this is bullshit" then that's it. It's not like you're not gonna be carrying that weight for weeks.

I'm p null on wiisp and leto. Maybe a townlean on leto if I squint really hard, but the slot seems kinda systematic so they could probably make that kind of analysis of my post irrespective of my alignment.

Scum probably are tempted to take a week off to reach nirvana before they post. I'ma begin by scumreading ppl who I suspect are lurking this / may try to lurk this.

S-FM Magoroth

Why do you think scum would lurk?

[Grayswandir]

The only reason I fall back into my older playstyle is if I really need to control the game as wolf, or stop town from playing poorly

you played with me? I dont remember you from my old games

I’m Ganelon lul

[Grayswandir]

Wiisp do you have some meta for really long games like this one? Do scum usually lurk?

[Grayswandir]

Hi. I thought this would be like, anxiety-inducing af but now I'm in it I realize this is super chill if you have literally weeks to mull over reads and can just go awol for days and take a break lol. I'm reading thru the setup rn.

Gonna be interesting to see how pressure works psychologically over such extreme time periods. Idk if some forms of pressure will even exist in the same way. I think we should be open to early hammers. Not suggesting we play this like a 48h game, I get ppl wanna chill. But if there's at least a decent threat of getting lynched after a week there'll be much more potential for AI tells.

I'm reading thru the setup rn. I don't get why god would ever not use the check over the heal. Using the heal instead seems insanely risky and fps-ish. w.r.t. Leto's question, I think the kill should probably be saved for later on to be used in a POE-ish sort of way. It shouldn't just be thrown away on day 1. And if there's a god CC war later then the kill can resolve it for us if god still has it. I think the same is true of the check.

I think God should never use their daykill too early into the game. Imagine waiting 3 weeks for someone to flip. I think I would legit kill myself IRL.

[Grayswandir]

Too early into the day, not game.
Apologies for my really short posts. I’ll be trying to condense my posting from now on and post more rarely.

[Wiisp]

@Wiisp (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=38919) do you have some meta for really long games like this one? Do scum usually lurk?
yes and no? like its usually more of a player thing then a meta thing on the site I play on
but if u have to deal with lurkers, sometimes its just easier to read everyone else, then come back to them

[S-FM Magoroth]

Some rapid bullet thoughts.

- Please don't spam this game. Take the time to make long posts. The more posts we have, the harder this game is going to be because content is just so taxing for towns people to sift through over and over again. Please.

- I'm prepping for vacation and won't really be around till maybe Tuesday. And I'm in another s-fm that really deserves my attention as EoD is in 26 hours.

- I also think this game would be perfect to try informal bird voting. We certainly have the luxury of time to make sure everyone understands what's going on with it.

- In addition, given that we have hammer on, which is needlessly scum sided, I will not be voting until 3 days before Day End. I encourage everyone to do the same. Early hammer would be absolutely terrible and then we'd spend Day 2 debating if it was scummy to do so or not. I don't need to have that argument.

- Lastly, let's not resort to personal attacks. This is going to be a long game, and it'll be more likely to cause people to burn out. I'd love to see the end of the game with everyone here and have no replacements. I apologize in advance for my sheer stupidity.

[Wiisp]

While I agree with the not spamming/wall posts, its relatively hard to do early on
I have not seen any personal attacks

[Leto II]

Tbh Wiisp saying this could be AI ^^ Wiisp could be a downright asshole to his scumreads lmao, it was so hilarious. Wiisp could potentially be trying to be ‘nicer’ bc shitting on ppl as scum is kinda meh, and it doesn’t paint as much of a target on him if he plays nice.

FWIW, I totally won’t mind if you start calling ppl idiots for misreading :P I find that shit hilarious, especially since the way you did it wasn’t really that toxic.
If you're town, I beg of you to not reveal your "weapons" early. Wait it out.

Imagine this hypothetical scenario: you told me first hour into the game that I usually do x as scum. Great! Now I do y. When instead you could have just waited for me to continue and then made your case a couple hundred posts later.

Please don't reveal to the scum how they have to play in order for you to town read them.

I'm not a fan of chitchatting like apparently some others are.
But what you did here I find inherently anti-town.

Grayswandir

This post might be hypocritical of me. But I find it important for every towny to be aware of this sort of thing especially given the game length.

[yzb25]

Some rapid bullet thoughts.

- Please don't spam this game. Take the time to make long posts. The more posts we have, the harder this game is going to be because content is just so taxing for towns people to sift through over and over again. Please.

- I'm prepping for vacation and won't really be around till maybe Tuesday. And I'm in another s-fm that really deserves my attention as EoD is in 26 hours.

- I also think this game would be perfect to try informal bird voting. We certainly have the luxury of time to make sure everyone understands what's going on with it.

- In addition, given that we have hammer on, which is needlessly scum sided, I will not be voting until 3 days before Day End. I encourage everyone to do the same. Early hammer would be absolutely terrible and then we'd spend Day 2 debating if it was scummy to do so or not. I don't need to have that argument.

- Lastly, let's not resort to personal attacks. This is going to be a long game, and it'll be more likely to cause people to burn out. I'd love to see the end of the game with everyone here and have no replacements. I apologize in advance for my sheer stupidity.

If you're so vocal about your intention to not even vote for weeks, scum are gonna feel 0 pressure for a while. You can't seriously think lynching a week and a half in is equivalent to a 24h lynch in a 48h day.

[Grayswandir]

I call out scummy things where I see them. Wiisp saying he will try to chill and not treat his scum leans like dirt could be him being self-conscious of his meta as scum.
As for me encouraging him to post: I really want to see that from him, I find it absolutely hilarious.. Besides, not that I had this in mind when I said it, but if he tries to mimic his town meta as scum it won’t be as convincing as it is when he is town. So if my post gave him the idea that he should imitate it to seem town, that is something that we’ll be able to read.

[yzb25]

Why do you think scum would lurk?

Sometimes when I'm scum I prepare this flowery, beautifully formatted wallpost for daystart to sweat out townpoints, because in the pre-game before the chat has opened you have tonnes of time and no expectation to reply to anything. In this gamemode, that same thing applies for most of the day. It's natural for ppl not to post for a few days. That's the spirit of the setup. But on the other extreme if someone seems to be consistently going awol for a week, dropping a beautiful wallpost then going awol again for a week and doing that over months, I'ma hold onto my suspicions because that's exactly what I'd do LOL.

[yzb25]

err crap maybe I do need a cap. I'll make this the last post for tonight unless something really pings me. Cya

[Grayswandir]

imagine having suspicions on someone for literally weeks. Seeing someone's posts as manipulative / malicious is very painful normally. But now I'm in it I kinda realize this is gonna be more like "eh, I think this, this and this is bullshit" then that's it. It's not like you're not gonna be carrying that weight for weeks.

I'm p null on wiisp and leto. Maybe a townlean on leto if I squint really hard, but the slot seems kinda systematic so they could probably make that kind of analysis of my post irrespective of my alignment.

Scum probably are tempted to take a week off to reach nirvana before they post. I'ma begin by scumreading ppl who I suspect are lurking this / may try to lurk this.

S-FM Magoroth
Could you try to explain what you meant here please? I’m likely just being stupid, so my bad for the silly question lol.

[yzb25]

Could you try to explain what you meant here please? I’m likely just being stupid, so my bad for the silly question lol.

I accidentally used two "not"s. I meant to say "It's not like you're gonna be carrying that weight for weeks". my bad

[Bahkieh]

Oh cool, I made it in time for just the first page.

*Insert obligatory "I am Town"*

Y'all know I am from heaven because I don't lie :^)

[Grayswandir]

What I suggest everyone does is make a private discord server for their notes, and when you see posts that you have an opinion on, write your notes about it in the server; when there’s enough for you to post, post it. That way you’ll have fewer posts.

And this will be my last post for a while.

[Grayswandir]

yzb25 Could you explain this? Because from my perspective it looks like you literally just scum slipped in the classic sense of the word, lol. Were you taking it to mean they were scum and could make that analysis regardless of if you were town or not?



I'm p null on wiisp and leto. Maybe a townlean on leto if I squint really hard, but the slot seems kinda systematic so they could probably make that kind of analysis of my post irrespective of my alignment.


I’m sorry, I know I said I would not be posting again for a while, but if this is an actual slip I cannot let anyone else point this out first lmao. No way I’d forgive myself for ignoring this, and letting someone else take credit for it, lol.

[Grayswandir]

Honestly this is just so scummy that I don’t know if actual scum would do this lol.

[yzb25]

yzb25 Could you explain this? Because from my perspective it looks like you literally just scum slipped in the classic sense of the word, lol. Were you taking it to mean they were scum and could make that analysis regardless of if you were town or not?



I’m sorry, I know I said I would not be posting again for a while, but if this is an actual slip I cannot let anyone else point this out first lmao. No way I’d forgive myself for ignoring this, and letting someone else take credit for it, lol.

irrespective of their alignment

[Grayswandir]

irrespective of their alignment

So you saying 'my' instead of 'their alignment' is just a typo? And not you thinking you're scum and that Leto could analyse your post regardless of if he was teamed with you or not?

[Grayswandir]

I am God-Emperor Leto II,

Follow my rule and humanity will be led down The Golden Path. We shall exterminate the unholy and put an end to this Eternal Conflict!


I believe that you all have been deceived.
Paul is not Paul the Apostle from Old Terra. He is, in fact, Paul Atreides. Muad'Dib, The Preacher, The Dune Messiah. His Jihad cost the lives of over 60 billion people and now he deceives you into thinking that he is someone that he is not!
We must keep an eye on Paul.

But for now, I have a question for all of you. When do you think is a proper time for a God such as myself to Smite down the unholy? I want clear and honest answers only.

Are you asking what God should do to get the real God to slip? :P

[yzb25]

So you saying 'my' instead of 'their alignment' is just a typo? And not you thinking you're scum and that Leto could analyse your post regardless of if he was teamed with you or not?

yeah. Now I've read it several times I think I can understand how you see the typo as scum indicative, but if that's a real read you must think I'm a total imbecile lol

[Grayswandir]

yeah. Now I've read it several times I think I can understand how you see the typo as scum indicative, but if that's a real read you must think I'm a total imbecile lol

I don't think you're an imbecile if you make that kinda slip lol. Get sleep-addled/stressed enough and you won't even realize what kinda shit comes out of your mouth.
I'll be keeping my eye on you, but if this is all some stupid thing I'm reading too much into (which is what I think it is), then my bad lol. I don't mean to shit on anybody's shoes.

[Grayswandir]

Interesting post.

I think that this setup could be anxiety-inducing only for the Scum. Therefore someone talking about their own experience regarding anxiety is what I find interesting in it's own.

What exactly have we got here? (I will put some words on yzb25's mouth to make my point across)


The 1st paragraph expresses relief regarding the lack of anxiety.
The 2nd paragraph expresses irritation regarding the lack of pressure that the Scums could feel.

I want everyone to take a moment and contemplate on the train of thought that went behind of making that post, it might be important.

What are your soul reads on yzb25's frame of mind for when he made that post? Please take your time. Share your opinions.

yzb25 I think your thoughts regarding the proper use of God's powers are spot on.

Grayswandir Don't ignore questions. And I hope you will keep the fluffing to a minimum this game. 3 weeks per day makes it easy to flood the thread and make it unproductive. I'm sure you know that.

I think God should keep their nightkill to deter potential God fakeclaims (and obviously stay hidden).
Also, if God reveals, they should 100% reveal who they are going to use their kill on so the person they vig has time to prepare a decent last will and a roleclaim, so we at least have something from them if they're town (and if they're scum I suppose it could be read into, too). Plus if God reveals, kills someone and causes a hammer, that would be some kinda bullshit lol. Obviously the last one isn't gonna happen unless God is extremely inattentive, but better safe than sorry, lol.

A God who thinks they have scum pinged down can also nightcheck someone and if they're scum shoot them. That's also one way of playing that role ^^

[Marshmallow Marshall]

YESSSS :D


Hi. I thought this would be like, anxiety-inducing af but now I'm in it I realize this is super chill if you have literally weeks to mull over reads and can just go awol for days and take a break lol. I'm reading thru the setup rn.

Gonna be interesting to see how pressure works psychologically over such extreme time periods. Idk if some forms of pressure will even exist in the same way. I think we should be open to early hammers. Not suggesting we play this like a 48h game, I get ppl wanna chill. But if there's at least a decent threat of getting lynched after a week there'll be much more potential for AI tells.

I'm reading thru the setup rn. I don't get why god would ever not use the check over the heal. Using the heal instead seems insanely risky and fps-ish. w.r.t. Leto's question, I think the kill should probably be saved for later on to be used in a POE-ish sort of way. It shouldn't just be thrown away on day 1. And if there's a god CC war later then the kill can resolve it for us if god still has it. I think the same is true of the check.

Correct! That's the point of the game. Agreed with your reasoning.

God should definetly not smite instantly, and instead should wait until He has a reasonable amount of info against someone. As for his check-or-heal, checking is indeed pretty good, but you never know when a heal may be handy. The setup is designed with quite a lot of kills, after all, so the heal possibility is here to balance it out. I'd let it up to God's judgment and let it WIFOM so that scum don't have info on what God plans to do.

Leto II Because in this dire hour, we ought to fight for democracy and reject autocrats...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Are you asking what God should do to get the real God to slip? :P

It is anti-town to discuss the WIFOM around early D1 "claims" like his. He's obviously baiting something, and God, if He is not stupid, won't just come out and "slip" anything. Grayswandir

[Leto II]

yzb25 Could you explain this? Because from my perspective it looks like you literally just scum slipped in the classic sense of the word, lol. Were you taking it to mean they were scum and could make that analysis regardless of if you were town or not?



I’m sorry, I know I said I would not be posting again for a while, but if this is an actual slip I cannot let anyone else point this out first lmao. No way I’d forgive myself for ignoring this, and letting someone else take credit for it, lol. I have good news and bad news. And they're both the same! :>
You don't need to feel the Hero Syndrome for the possibility of yzb red flip. It's all mine thanks to my 2nd post in the game.


Are you asking what God should do to get the real God to slip? :P You're such a troll lol


I think God should keep their nightkill to deter potential God fakeclaims (and obviously stay hidden).
Also, if God reveals, they should 100% reveal who they are going to use their kill on so the person they vig has time to prepare a decent last will and a roleclaim, so we at least have something from them if they're town (and if they're scum I suppose it could be read into, too). Plus if God reveals, kills someone and causes a hammer, that would be some kinda bullshit lol. Obviously the last one isn't gonna happen unless God is extremely inattentive, but better safe than sorry, lol.

A God who thinks they have scum pinged down can also nightcheck someone and if they're scum shoot them. That's also one way of playing that role ^^Those were some good points, thank you. Also, I didn't even know we have Last Wills here.


YESSSS :D



Correct! That's the point of the game. Agreed with your reasoning.

God should definetly not smite instantly, and instead should wait until He has a reasonable amount of info against someone. As for his check-or-heal, checking is indeed pretty good, but you never know when a heal may be handy. The setup is designed with quite a lot of kills, after all, so the heal possibility is here to balance it out. I'd let it up to God's judgment and let it WIFOM so that scum don't have info on what God plans to do.

Leto II Because in this dire hour, we ought to fight for democracy and reject autocrats...You tell me what an autocrat is without me having to google it, or I OMGUS you! :mad:

[Leto II]

I assume at least some here have played many games with completely new FM players present.

Any opinions on Bahkieh entrance post?
I think I have seen similar but can't remember their alignments in the end.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I have good news and bad news. And they're both the same! :>
You don't need to feel the Hero Syndrome for the possibility of yzb red flip. It's all mine thanks to my 2nd post in the game.

You're such a troll lol

Those were some good points, thank you. Also, I didn't even know we have Last Wills here.

You tell me what an autocrat is without me having to google it, or I OMGUS you! :mad:

An autocrat is you, Mr. God-Emperor :P
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/autocrat

Grey is wrong, though: we don't have last wills. Plus, God's kill is theoretically instantanous, which means there is no need to say who you're targeting to avoid playing with the Vigilante: it's literally a smite out of nowhere. Claiming God before using the kill could be a good idea if you want to be confirmed by the kill, though.

By the way, Grey Swan, dir, why are you elaborating a mechanical way to play the game without reading the setup? :P

[Leto II]

An autocrat is you, Mr. God-Emperor :P
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/autocrat

Grey is wrong, though: we don't have last wills. Plus, God's kill is theoretically instantanous, which means there is no need to say who you're targeting to avoid playing with the Vigilante: it's literally a smite out of nowhere. Claiming God before using the kill could be a good idea if you want to be confirmed by the kill, though.

By the way, Grey Swan, dir, why are you elaborating a mechanical way to play the game without reading the setup? :P
Thank you for the link!

Your reply about Grey feels mechanical, and the "claim before kill" idea sounds suspicious.-_-

[Samson]

Genesis‬ *1:1-5‬ *
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”
**

[Samson]

Honestly this is just so scummy that I don’t know if actual scum would do this lol.

“And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.”
**Mark‬ *8:26‬ *

[Samson]

It is anti-town to discuss the WIFOM around early D1 "claims" like his. He's obviously baiting something, and God, if He is not stupid, won't just come out and "slip" anything. Grayswandir

“She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire.”
**Ezekiel‬ *24:12‬ *

[Wiisp]

if you want to do these roleplays, at least make them easy to understand
else please stop

[Samson]

if you want to do these roleplays, at least make them easy to understand
else please stop

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
**Ephesians‬ *6:12‬ *

[Samson]

Grayswandir ;914305][/SIZE]Honestly this is just so scummy that I don’t know if actual scum would do this lol.


“And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.”
**Mark‬ *8:26‬ *


Marshmallow Marshall[/SIZE];914325]It is anti-town to discuss the WIFOM around early D1 "claims" like his. He's obviously baiting something, and God, if He is not stupid, won't just come out and "slip" anything. Grayswandir


“She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire.”
**Ezekiel‬ *24:12‬ *


if you want to do these roleplays, at least make them easy to understand
else please stop

...

[Wiisp]

you literally added new colors to highlight more things..., and I was talking about your explanations in verses, if those even are explanations, or rather just verses you know of or found that you could slip in "town" or "scum" for

so Grays is town because he has a TWTBAW read, and MM is a wolf because why?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Thank you for the link!

Your reply about Grey feels mechanical, and the "claim before kill" idea sounds suspicious.-_-

My reply is mechanical? You don't say! That's the point...

Also, if it was unclear, I'm saying that God should claim before using his kill if he wants to be confirmed by the kill, not in general. The path God chooses depends on the circumstances (for example, if we'd be at MYLO if God smites a townie, it would be a sin not to claim before killing to prevent a CC war that could cost us the game).

Please elaborate on how you read my post instead of saying "the idea sounds suspicious" or "the post feels mechanical" (especially since the post is literally about mechanics in a setup I made........)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

“And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.”
**Mark‬ *8:26‬ *
Why?

“She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire.”
**Ezekiel‬ *24:12‬ *

Why?

I truly love what you're doing lol (NAI, it's just fun), but could you explain us your reads in a biblical, yet clear manner, please? Content-wise, this is as useful as a naked vote or as a "HES TOWN HES TOWN HES TOWN" spam.

[Wiisp]

Why?


Why?

I truly love what you're doing lol (NAI, it's just fun), but could you explain us your reads in a biblical, yet clear manner, please? Content-wise, this is as useful as a naked vote or as a "HES TOWN HES TOWN HES TOWN" spam.didnt u see though? he requoted all his posts with new colors, we just missed all the knowledge lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

ohh an anon account, which means they are hiding from meta
Wonder what they are afraid of
Anon accounts seem to be a fashion these days :P not that they're necessarily afraid of their meta

Tbh Wiisp saying this could be AI ^^ Wiisp could be a downright asshole to his scumreads lmao, it was so hilarious. Wiisp could potentially be trying to be ‘nicer’ bc shitting on ppl as scum is kinda meh, and it doesn’t paint as much of a target on him if he plays nice.

FWIW, I totally won’t mind if you start calling ppl idiots for misreading :P I find that shit hilarious, especially since the way you did it wasn’t really that toxic.
Nah, Wiisp changed his playstyle since then, and I dare say in a quite significant manner (and perhaps for the better, too). Scumreading him for not being toxic is both wrong and really not a good standard to set lol.
Also, since last game people apparently didn't understand when I said attacks against someone were wrong, I'm gonna clarify this point: THIS DOES NOT MAKE WISP TOWN, IT JUST CHANGES NOTHING
No "Acidic Egypt" ambiguity this time.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732281454561853502/789024171744165921/11111111.PNG
And for the record, it had nothing to do with Egypt or acid, it was about Illuminati lol

The only reason I fall back into my older playstyle is if I really need to control the game as wolf, or stop town from playing poorly

you played with me? I dont remember you from my old games

He's had many names throughout the millenia, but you probably know him best as Magoroth :P
Good to know about your playstyle though...
hehe now I can scumread you if you become toxic

[Marshmallow Marshall]

didnt u see though? he requoted all his posts with new colors, we just missed all the knowledge lol

Ah... He may have mistaken your request for clarity as a complete lack of interpretation of his posts, though. I'm giving him that chance at least.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Some rapid bullet thoughts.

- Please don't spam this game. Take the time to make long posts. The more posts we have, the harder this game is going to be because content is just so taxing for towns people to sift through over and over again. Please.

- I'm prepping for vacation and won't really be around till maybe Tuesday. And I'm in another s-fm that really deserves my attention as EoD is in 26 hours.

- I also think this game would be perfect to try informal bird voting. We certainly have the luxury of time to make sure everyone understands what's going on with it.

- In addition, given that we have hammer on, which is needlessly scum sided, I will not be voting until 3 days before Day End. I encourage everyone to do the same. Early hammer would be absolutely terrible and then we'd spend Day 2 debating if it was scummy to do so or not. I don't need to have that argument.

- Lastly, let's not resort to personal attacks. This is going to be a long game, and it'll be more likely to cause people to burn out. I'd love to see the end of the game with everyone here and have no replacements. I apologize in advance for my sheer stupidity.

- No spam in sight yet. Also, it's not going to be too taxing to go through all posts, since we have three weeks to do so.

- Sure, that's alright.

- I mean, if you want something to spam aboutdiscuss, sure... but I have doubts on the efficiency of this method when not everyone participates in it and when even less people understand what is going on with it.

- Majority lynch being a thing is probably what made a few people not refuse to sign lol. Don't ask too much from this kind of setup just yet; if people like the pace, I'm all in to have more of those setups running, maybe without hammers in the first week of each day. As for not voting... sorry, but that is horribly anti-town. Votes are an amazing pressure tool for town, and we cannot just leave them aside for weeks. If anyone insta-hammers without a strict consensus, they will likely be lynched tomorrow anyway. And "debating if it was scummy to do so or not" (and even better, to attempt to do so) implies we'd gain a ton of information from such an event, especially associations-wise.

- 10000000000 % agreed. This shouldn't really need to be said, but I guess we're better safe than sorry.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If you're town, I beg of you to not reveal your "weapons" early. Wait it out.

Imagine this hypothetical scenario: you told me first hour into the game that I usually do x as scum. Great! Now I do y. When instead you could have just waited for me to continue and then made your case a couple hundred posts later.

Please don't reveal to the scum how they have to play in order for you to town read them.

I'm not a fan of chitchatting like apparently some others are.
But what you did here I find inherently anti-town.

Grayswandir

This post might be hypocritical of me. But I find it important for every towny to be aware of this sort of thing especially given the game length.
What makes this scummy instead of "mistaky"? I'm assuming you think it's scummy since you placed your vote there, and yet I see you talking to him clearly acting like you know he's town...

If you're so vocal about your intention to not even vote for weeks, scum are gonna feel 0 pressure for a while. You can't seriously think lynching a week and a half in is equivalent to a 24h lynch in a 48h day.
Correct. We NEED to vote people. And although lynching a week and a half in isn't equivalent to lynching 24 hours in, I'd rather not have hammers without a relatively strong consensus.

Sometimes when I'm scum I prepare this flowery, beautifully formatted wallpost for daystart to sweat out townpoints, because in the pre-game before the chat has opened you have tonnes of time and no expectation to reply to anything. In this gamemode, that same thing applies for most of the day. It's natural for ppl not to post for a few days. That's the spirit of the setup. But on the other extreme if someone seems to be consistently going awol for a week, dropping a beautiful wallpost then going awol again for a week and doing that over months, I'ma hold onto my suspicions because that's exactly what I'd do LOL.

I'd be careful not to go too far with this, though. Posting walls once in a while can be a NAI playstyle (thinking about Voss and Distorted right now, as well as myself). What's scummy is if you're basically fluffing once every 2-3 days and then disappearing.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

yzb25 Could you explain this? Because from my perspective it looks like you literally just scum slipped in the classic sense of the word, lol. Were you taking it to mean they were scum and could make that analysis regardless of if you were town or not?



I’m sorry, I know I said I would not be posting again for a while, but if this is an actual slip I cannot let anyone else point this out first lmao. No way I’d forgive myself for ignoring this, and letting someone else take credit for it, lol.

The sentence would make little sense if it were an actual slip. Taking that stance as scum would be ridiculously dumb xD

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I assume at least some here have played many games with completely new FM players present.

Any opinions on Bahkieh entrance post?
I think I have seen similar but can't remember their alignments in the end.

It will all depend on if they lurk and do nothing or if they actually step in at some point. For now, they're null.

I should probably stop posting now

[Grayswandir]

“And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.”
**Mark‬ *8:26‬ *

I love you.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

The Truth has arrived.
We shall soon begin our scientific research to eradicate the lies that humanity have succumb too.

[This is the SuperJack+??? Hybrid]

[Grayswandir]

The sentence would make little sense if it were an actual slip. Taking that stance as scum would be ridiculously dumb xD

I agree. It looks like I was reading too much into nothing, lol.

[Grayswandir]

It is anti-town to discuss the WIFOM around early D1 "claims" like his. He's obviously baiting something, and God, if He is not stupid, won't just come out and "slip" anything. Grayswandir

I disagree, but I’m not going to solve scum’s game for them by telling them what ‘slip’ to look for.

[Leto II]

My reply is mechanical? You don't say! That's the point...

Also, if it was unclear, I'm saying that God should claim before using his kill if he wants to be confirmed by the kill, not in general. The path God chooses depends on the circumstances (for example, if we'd be at MYLO if God smites a townie, it would be a sin not to claim before killing to prevent a CC war that could cost us the game).

Please elaborate on how you read my post instead of saying "the idea sounds suspicious" or "the post feels mechanical" (especially since the post is literally about mechanics in a setup I made........)My man, have I irritated you?

In almost all scenarios Satan would wait out their "guess the role" ability just for God, that's where your suggestion becomes unsettling.
When I said "mechanical", I meant - you weren't sincere, clearly only joking around given the ":P" in the end. That ":P" is really out of place there if you were anything else but joking around. A filler question.



What makes this scummy instead of "mistaky"? I'm assuming you think it's scummy since you placed your vote there, and yet I see you talking to him clearly acting like you know he's town...If you want to know my read or thoughts on him - just ask. I find him very towny.
For why I called the act "scummy" and placed a vote - it's in order to discourage similar acts in the future. Made null and void as of right now...

I look at what you saw in my post, and I don't see a "What did he try to accomplish here?" question popping up in your head. I only see either "what is his read on him?". I don't like it, for at best it's NAI when I had hoped to see something that makes you towny instead.



I love you.I don't.
I rather players with the decency to extend the common courtesy to the other players of interacting with them like with human beings.
I will try my best to respect him. No promises.



It will all depend on if they lurk and do nothing or if they actually step in at some point. For now, they're null.

I should probably stop posting nowOfficer of a confectionery, may I ask a favor of you?
You have given the impression of willing to go the route of replying to every sentence in the game. (Which is more disruptive than helpful as a town while good flooding tactic as a scum, but the act itself is NAI excluding meta) May I ask that you don't leave out #8 (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48044-S-FM-Eternal-Conflict-(Off-Queue-Game-Ongoing)?p=914243&viewfull=1#post914243) and give your opinions regarding that?

I sincerely hope you won't keep going the route of replying to every sentence and asking about every little thing. Nearly everyone has expressed a diswant for that sort of thing so at least I'm not the only one.

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Size 1 is bigger than regular text?

[Grayswandir]

didnt u see though? he requoted all his posts with new colors, we just missed all the knowledge lol

This deserves to go in my signature.

[Leto II]

This deserves to go in my signature.
You have no signature.

[Grayswandir]

You have no signature.

Yes, hence why I want it in my signature. :P

[yzb25]

Not a big fan of the mag train. Smells opportunistic. Especially cuz both of the votes seem to be for things that were anti-town rather than actually scummy. Hell, the supposed anti-town posts weren't even anti-town, and voting mag for being anti-town is not gonna stop him from being anti-town lmao. Mag seemed to have a lot of genuine pride in finding the "slip", and I actually thought the way he talked to wiisp was quite a sincere-sounding read. Mag played a major role in helping to get this game started (I assume a game like this could easily end up stagnating before it even begins) and has actually been quite pro-town overall so far. tbf, I guess only like 4-5 ppl have posted more than a couple times, so maybe this is the based "when in doubt push mag train" lmao. I just don't see why on earth you feel the need to try to get info out of mag here.

I guess Voss really isn't coming back. Shame, cuz I genuinely thought pushing him first made sense cuz he is seriously threatening in a setup like this (he can probably deliver a killer scum game in this sort of setup). And, again, the mag train is lame, so this probably makes more sense:

Paul

the guy that doesn't seem to be busy with anything but wishes to give shallow reasonless reads in biblical verse yet also hasn't been voted lol.

[yzb25]

Wiisp you recommended voting early and regularly. Doesn't it make sense to push paul for contributions here? Why haven't you thrown down a vote in general?

[yzb25]

I'd be careful not to go too far with this, though. Posting walls once in a while can be a NAI playstyle (thinking about Voss and Distorted right now, as well as myself). What's scummy is if you're basically fluffing once every 2-3 days and then disappearing.

I didn't say I was gonna scumread ppl for posting walls. I'm saying in a setup like this if you seem to be making a consistent effort not to actually directly converse with ppl and only communicate thru very controlled / calculated posts it'll raise my alarm bells. And ppl who play in such a manner are never getting more than a null read from me. That's all.

[Leto II]

Not a big fan of the mag train. Smells opportunistic. Especially cuz both of the votes seem to be for things that were anti-town rather than actually scummy. Hell, the supposed anti-town posts weren't even anti-town, and voting mag for being anti-town is not gonna stop him from being anti-town lmao.
Confirm or deny that you were caught up when you made this comment please.

[S-FM Magoroth]

I didn't say I was gonna scumread ppl for posting walls. I'm saying in a setup like this if you seem to be making a consistent effort not to actually directly converse with ppl and only communicate thru very controlled / calculated posts it'll raise my alarm bells. And ppl who play in such a manner are never getting more than a null read from me. That's all.

I'm 10000% going to do "controlled/calculated" posts as I try to do that every game. I truly believe it's healthier for the town. If you want to have conversations, I encourage you to play a faster form of mafia, like the arcade game on sc2mafia. Heck, I might even try to host a quick version of mafia on the forums in the coming weeks.

There is a way of doing wall posts wrong though. If the quotes posted are too many, and don't make sense together, that is the point at which one should use spoilers or break up their posts.


- No spam in sight yet. Also, it's not going to be too taxing to go through all posts, since we have three weeks to do so.

- Sure, that's alright.

- I mean, if you want something to spam aboutdiscuss, sure... but I have doubts on the efficiency of this method when not everyone participates in it and when even less people understand what is going on with it.

- Majority lynch being a thing is probably what made a few people not refuse to sign lol. Don't ask too much from this kind of setup just yet; if people like the pace, I'm all in to have more of those setups running, maybe without hammers in the first week of each day. As for not voting... sorry, but that is horribly anti-town. Votes are an amazing pressure tool for town, and we cannot just leave them aside for weeks. If anyone insta-hammers without a strict consensus, they will likely be lynched tomorrow anyway. And "debating if it was scummy to do so or not" (and even better, to attempt to do so) implies we'd gain a ton of information from such an event, especially associations-wise.

- 10000000000 % agreed. This shouldn't really need to be said, but I guess we're better safe than sorry.

Pressure votes mean nothing if we all know they aren't going to result in anything. I've seen too many games where a train builds up on someone and the train moves because the consensus is that they want to pressure other people because pressuring other people is different. Like, I won't even blink if I get to L-1 because I know it's going to go elsewhere sooner or later.

I'm going to commit to posting rankings of town to scum. People can quiver in their proverbial boots as much or as little as they feel like.

And my quips about spam and personal attacks were gentle reminders and not meant to imply that I had seen such behavior in this particular game. However, no one's going to reread a 500 page game. Best scum tactic I would do if I were scum would be to generate a FUCKton of content.


Not a big fan of the mag train. Smells opportunistic. Especially cuz both of the votes seem to be for things that were anti-town rather than actually scummy. Hell, the supposed anti-town posts weren't even anti-town, and voting mag for being anti-town is not gonna stop him from being anti-town lmao. Mag seemed to have a lot of genuine pride in finding the "slip", and I actually thought the way he talked to wiisp was quite a sincere-sounding read. Mag played a major role in helping to get this game started (I assume a game like this could easily end up stagnating before it even begins) and has actually been quite pro-town overall so far. tbf, I guess only like 4-5 ppl have posted more than a couple times, so maybe this is the based "when in doubt push mag train" lmao. I just don't see why on earth you feel the need to try to get info out of mag here.

I guess Voss really isn't coming back. Shame, cuz I genuinely thought pushing him first made sense cuz he is seriously threatening in a setup like this (he can probably deliver a killer scum game in this sort of setup). And, again, the mag train is lame, so this probably makes more sense:

Paul

the guy that doesn't seem to be busy with anything but wishes to give shallow reasonless reads in biblical verse yet also hasn't been voted lol.

I'm Mag, and Voss isn't playing. Probably would be best to refer to people by the actual names in the setup so as not to confuse people.

[Grayswandir]

It is anti-town to discuss the WIFOM around early D1 "claims" like his. He's obviously baiting something, and God, if He is not stupid, won't just come out and "slip" anything. Grayswandir

You seem have given the ‘scum bait’ a lot of thought. Were you afraid you were going to get caught in it? :P

[Grayswandir]

An autocrat is you, Mr. God-Emperor :P
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/autocrat

Grey is wrong, though: we don't have last wills. Plus, God's kill is theoretically instantanous, which means there is no need to say who you're targeting to avoid playing with the Vigilante: it's literally a smite out of nowhere. Claiming God before using the kill could be a good idea if you want to be confirmed by the kill, though.

By the way, Grey Swan, dir, why are you elaborating a mechanical way to play the game without reading the setup? :P

I don’t understand what you mean with "God’s claim is instantaneous, and there is no need to say who you’re targeting”. If two trains are tied at L-1, killing one of the ppl on one of the trains could result in the other train getting hammered lmao. Even if they unvote.

[Grayswandir]

I personally cannot wait for Helz and GoatseOntheCupboard to join in. We need real men to show us how to read ppl!

[Grayswandir]

Anon accounts seem to be a fashion these days :P not that they're necessarily afraid of their meta

Nah, Wiisp changed his playstyle since then, and I dare say in a quite significant manner (and perhaps for the better, too). Scumreading him for not being toxic is both wrong and really not a good standard to set lol.
Also, since last game people apparently didn't understand when I said attacks against someone were wrong, I'm gonna clarify this point: THIS DOES NOT MAKE WISP TOWN, IT JUST CHANGES NOTHING
No "Acidic Egypt" ambiguity this time.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732281454561853502/789024171744165921/11111111.PNG
And for the record, it had nothing to do with Egypt or acid, it was about Illuminati lol


He's had many names throughout the millenia, but you probably know him best as Magoroth :P
Good to know about your playstyle though...
hehe now I can scumread you if you become toxic

It’s not that different; it’s still obviously Wiisp, he just doesn’t call ppl idiots anymore. I also don’t agree that what he was doing was ‘toxic’, I would name it at best a plotato-kind of toxicity that isn’t personal, and isn’t carried out of the game.

Also, the major advantage with playing behind an anon account, if you seriously try to hide your CON and pretend you don’t know anyone, is that you’ll have substantially better reads. That’s not game related, it’s just an observation of mine.

[Samson]

Ok here it is, Grey I am getting Town read because he is not afraid to just call out scum reading someone for stupid shit. That is so Oberon town. MM I have a slight scum read on because he knows Oberon and his push on Oberon feels fake. And he knows that Oberon is LHF in most games.

[Grayswandir]

I take offense at being called ‘LHF in most games’ :P
Pretty sure that’s not the case and certainly not the case this game.
Why didn’t you continue your bible quote spam? That shit was hilarious, lol. Not that I mind...

[Grayswandir]

Ok here it is, Grey I am getting Town read because he is not afraid to just call out scum reading someone for stupid shit. That is so Oberon town. MM I have a slight scum read on because he knows Oberon and his push on Oberon feels fake. And he knows that Oberon is LHF in most games.
What do you mean by this? You’re townreading me because I’m not afraid to call out others for scumreading ppl for stupid reasons, or because I’m scumreading someone else for stupid reasons myself?

[Samson]

Not a big fan of the mag train. Smells opportunistic. Especially cuz both of the votes seem to be for things that were anti-town rather than actually scummy. Hell, the supposed anti-town posts weren't even anti-town, and voting mag for being anti-town is not gonna stop him from being anti-town lmao. Mag seemed to have a lot of genuine pride in finding the "slip", and I actually thought the way he talked to wiisp was quite a sincere-sounding read. Mag played a major role in helping to get this game started (I assume a game like this could easily end up stagnating before it even begins) and has actually been quite pro-town overall so far. tbf, I guess only like 4-5 ppl have posted more than a couple times, so maybe this is the based "when in doubt push mag train" lmao. I just don't see why on earth you feel the need to try to get info out of mag here.

I guess Voss really isn't coming back. Shame, cuz I genuinely thought pushing him first made sense cuz he is seriously threatening in a setup like this (he can probably deliver a killer scum game in this sort of setup). And, again, the mag train is lame, so this probably makes more sense:

Paul

the guy that doesn't seem to be busy with anything but wishes to give shallow reasonless reads in biblical verse yet also hasn't been voted lol.

“Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.”
**Ephesians‬ *5:6‬ *

[Samson]

What do you mean by this? You’re townreading me because I’m not afraid to call out others for scumreading ppl for stupid reasons, or because I’m scumreading someone else for stupid reasons myself?

2nd sorry

[Grayswandir]

2nd sorry

In that case, eat me.

[Wiisp]

Ohh he broke the roleplay, with thoughts, kinda wolfy Paul
Explain to me how you finna add more colors, and even colors on only parts of words as if my Brian is going to highlight "is" in random words. And you had to of known what I asked, because your post didn't say anything tangible on why they were wolves or towns, u just added the word town and wolf there.

Paul

At least until I find a better option. Cause this is just slightly policy in a way

Magoroth, u are telling me, in a 13 player game, u wouldn't blink if you got put to L1? Ok boomer

[Wiisp]

Paul

[Samson]

In that case, eat me.

“Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.”
**Psalms‬ *37:3‬ *KJV‬‬

[Grayswandir]

A Third of your People
Will die by Plague or be consumed by Famine within you
A Third will fall by the Sword outside your Walls
And a Third I will scatter to every Wind
And unleash a Sword behind them.

[Grayswandir]

Ohh he broke the roleplay, with thoughts, kinda wolfy Paul
Explain to me how you finna add more colors, and even colors on only parts of words as if my Brian is going to highlight "is" in random words. And you had to of known what I asked, because your post didn't say anything tangible on why they were wolves or towns, u just added the word town and wolf there.

Paul

At least until I find a better option. Cause this is just slightly policy in a way

Magoroth, u are telling me, in a 13 player game, u wouldn't blink if you got put to L1? Ok boomer

+1

[Samson]

For post game

Scum team:
Marshal, Wisp, Yzb25. Not hard Reads but gut reads.

[Grayswandir]

For post game

Scum team:
Marshal, Wisp, Yzb25. Not hard Reads but gut reads.

Why?

[Samson]

Why?

Like I said posted for record l. It is Gut reads not hard reads. No no explanation needed.

[yzb25]

Confirm or deny that you were caught up when you made this comment please.

If you're asking about whether I read the posts I'm commenting on, yes I did. You voted mag for sharing a scumread too fast because you fear it may "coach the scum on how not to be scum", while acknowledging that's totally hypocritical and seemingly implying you don't even scumread mag for it. It looks like you were pretending to organise / lead ppl towards a pro-town direction without actually doing anything, because mag sharing that potential scumread wasn't remotely anti-town or "coaching the scum".

MM also tried to suggest some off-hand comment from mag was a way of baiting god. So yeah, opportunistic.

I'm not really caught up in anything, but maybe I'm skimming a few posts here and there ^^. I only just realized you townread them later, ngl.

[Samson]

For post game

Scum team:
Marshal, Wisp, Yzb25. Not hard Reads but gut reads.

Grayswandir (2 [L-5]):
Leto II, Marshmallow Marshall
Paul (2 [L-5]):
yzb25, Wiisp

I could be wrong. Would the whole wolf team just be the only one voting with only 1 town voting? I need to see how more plays out. From my POV I know two vote are on a town. And the other 2 are on someone I am town reading. Pushing Oberon here does not make any sense to me.

[Helz]

I personally cannot wait for Helz and GoatseOntheCupboard to join in.

I am sorry but playing fm on a phone is not something I am interested in doing. I should have that last 12vATX cable coming today so I will join in as soon as my system is up; will hopefully be in the next 8 hours or so.

[yzb25]

If you're town, I beg of you to not reveal your "weapons" early. Wait it out.

Imagine this hypothetical scenario: you told me first hour into the game that I usually do x as scum. Great! Now I do y. When instead you could have just waited for me to continue and then made your case a couple hundred posts later.

Please don't reveal to the scum how they have to play in order for you to town read them.

I'm not a fan of chitchatting like apparently some others are.
But what you did here I find inherently anti-town.

Grayswandir

This post might be hypocritical of me. But I find it important for every towny to be aware of this sort of thing especially given the game length.

you said this shit like 30 posts in. You look like you're trying too hard to sound towny.

[yzb25]

I'm 10000% going to do "controlled/calculated" posts as I try to do that every game. I truly believe it's healthier for the town. If you want to have conversations, I encourage you to play a faster form of mafia, like the arcade game on sc2mafia. Heck, I might even try to host a quick version of mafia on the forums in the coming weeks.

There is a way of doing wall posts wrong though. If the quotes posted are too many, and don't make sense together, that is the point at which one should use spoilers or break up their posts.



Pressure votes mean nothing if we all know they aren't going to result in anything. I've seen too many games where a train builds up on someone and the train moves because the consensus is that they want to pressure other people because pressuring other people is different. Like, I won't even blink if I get to L-1 because I know it's going to go elsewhere sooner or later.

I'm going to commit to posting rankings of town to scum. People can quiver in their proverbial boots as much or as little as they feel like.

And my quips about spam and personal attacks were gentle reminders and not meant to imply that I had seen such behavior in this particular game. However, no one's going to reread a 500 page game. Best scum tactic I would do if I were scum would be to generate a FUCKton of content.



I'm Mag, and Voss isn't playing. Probably would be best to refer to people by the actual names in the setup so as not to confuse people.[/QUOTE]

You're already not doing what I feared even with torn obligations so this conversation is kind of redundant.

Fair enough, but I'll call you S-FM Magoroth so noone confuses you with actual mag.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.

[SuperJack]

They wish to make you believe that the Earth is the centre to all. Yet, there is more life out there. Aliens will exists and it is inevitable they are found. We are quite aware that Paul is an alien, they have been observed in a Recreational vehicle Paul

[SuperJack]

...

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

They wish to make you believe that the Earth is the centre to all. Yet, there is more life out there. Aliens will exists and it is inevitable they are found. We are quite aware that Paul is an alien, they have been observed in a Recreational vehicle Paul

[Grayswandir]

Lol what

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Genesis‬ *1:1-5‬ *
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”
**

Design certainly does not work as an explanation for life, because design is ultimately not cumulative and it therefore raises bigger questions than it answers – it takes us straight back along the . . . ultimate regress

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
**Ephesians‬ *6:12‬ *

Creationists eagerly seek a gap in present-day knowledge or understanding. If an apparent gap is found, it is assumed that God, by default, must fill it.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

“Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.”
**Ephesians‬ *5:6‬ *

Why should a divine being, with creation and eternity on his mind, care a fig for petty human malefactions? We humans give ourselves such airs, even aggrandize from our poky little ‘sins’ to the level of cosmic significance!

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

“Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.”
**Psalms‬ *37:3‬ *KJV‬‬

Trust in Jehovah? The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

[Wiisp]

another one... can we not

[Dark Magician]

Wisp joined this game?
Wow better be town.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

another one... can we not

We are here to strike balance. If the anti-progressive stop their anti-humanity ways then we may focus on the science which is most beneficial to us all.

[Grayswandir]

Wisp joined this game?
Wow better be town.
Wait, you know Wiisp? From MU I’m guessing?

[Wiisp]

Wisp joined this game?
Wow better be town.
yes I am, who are you?

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

who are you?

The chicken is only an egg’s way for making another egg.

[Dark Magician]

Wait, you know Wiisp? From MU I’m guessing?

Nope Mafia451 is where I first played with them I believe.

[Dark Magician]

yes I am, who are you?

Your best friend.

[Dark Magician]

Dang Wisp two “i”’s. Disappointing someone stole your name.

[Wiisp]

They wish to make you believe that the Earth is the centre to all. Yet, there is more life out there. Aliens will exists and it is inevitable they are found. We are quite aware that Paul is an alien, they have been observed in a Recreational vehicle Paul


...


They wish to make you believe that the Earth is the centre to all. Yet, there is more life out there. Aliens will exists and it is inevitable they are found. We are quite aware that Paul is an alien, they have been observed in a Recreational vehicle Paul
so exactly what is this?

and Mr. Frasier tell me why you unvoted?

can we please stop talking in scriptures?

[Samson]

Design certainly does not work as an explanation for life, because design is ultimately not cumulative and it therefore raises bigger questions than it answers – it takes us straight back along the . . . ultimate regress

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[Samson]

Creationists eagerly seek a gap in present-day knowledge or understanding. If an apparent gap is found, it is assumed that God, by default, must fill it.

Job 2:6
And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.

Hybrid Richard Dawkins

[Samson]

Trust in Jehovah? The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

I am replacing out I am done.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

so exactly what is this?

and Mr. Frasier tell me why you unvoted?

can we please stop talking in scriptures?

A post from the wrong account. With the evidence you have given that is the conclusion we can reach.

And you do not see, we oppose the scriptures. It only exists to hide the evil and should be removed if we are to ever advance as a society.

[Wiisp]

If you're town, I beg of you to not reveal your "weapons" early. Wait it out.

Imagine this hypothetical scenario: you told me first hour into the game that I usually do x as scum. Great! Now I do y. When instead you could have just waited for me to continue and then made your case a couple hundred posts later.

Please don't reveal to the scum how they have to play in order for you to town read them.

I'm not a fan of chitchatting like apparently some others are.
But what you did here I find inherently anti-town.

Grayswandir

This post might be hypocritical of me. But I find it important for every towny to be aware of this sort of thing especially given the game length.
I have literally no idea, how this statement correlates with your vote on Grays?
and if we use the excuse, "Scum will learn from us", then we might as well do nothing, since everything we say is just a weapon for them to use, in which they can push a misyeet
the only thing you should not do, is possibly answer a question for someone else
but like its too early to be this paranoid, just play the game and see what happens

yzb is probably the worst if that means anything, based on how they entered the game
Paul is probably where I am gunna keep my vote though, until he wows me
like #31 doesn't actually give me the feeling that he cares about the statement he made

[Wiisp]

A post from the wrong account. With the evidence you have given that is the conclusion we can reach.

And you do not see, we oppose the scriptures. It only exists to hide the evil and should be removed if we are to ever advance as a society.
ya sorry if I don't see that, based on the way you are all talking?
also thanks for clarifying what happened

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I am replacing out I am done.

That's sad. Are we not allowed to roleplay also?

[Samson]

That's sad. Are we not allowed to roleplay also?

It is not you It is me I do not want to ruin the fun of this setup for others and right now I would. Dude you did nothing wrong.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

It is not you It is me I do not want to ruin the fun of this setup for others and right now I would. Dude you did nothing wrong.

Oh, we where worried something we posted hurt someone's feelings.
May I recommend giving whatever is going on a little time? This game does last long and it would be a shame to lose someone we already have a read on.

[Grayswandir]

It is not you It is me I do not want to ruin the fun of this setup for others and right now I would. Dude you did nothing wrong.
Dude, you can’t possibly replace out because someone in anon game roleplayed an atheist and attacked the Bible. Stay. I’m sure they didn’t mean anything by it.

[Samson]

Oh, we where worried something we posted hurt someone's feelings.
May I recommend giving whatever is going on a little time? This game does last long and it would be a shame to lose someone we already have a read on.

"If you are town your read is bad. To be honest it is the Theme of the game. I thought I could handle it but it is hard for me personally. And that should not stop you from being able to role play. You see with what you posted I am going to be hard tunneled on you. because If you where Godly you would NEVER posted what you posted. Now If you are Town. My tunnel on you is going to hurt town."
Dude Mike Quote

[Samson]

Dude, you can’t possibly replace out because someone in anon game roleplayed an atheist and attacked the Bible. Stay. I’m sure they didn’t mean anything by it.

Like I said I am the one at fault here. I have a lot to say about it but this is not the time or place. This is a game not a time to show people the truth about God.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain and presumptuous desire for a second one.


Job 2:6
And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.

Hybrid Richard Dawkins

More generally, one of the truly bad effects of religion is that it teaches us that it is a virtue to be satisfied with not understanding


I am replacing out I am done.

Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off.

[Samson]

Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain and presumptuous desire for a second one.



More generally, one of the truly bad effects of religion is that it teaches us that it is a virtue to be satisfied with not understanding



Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off.

if you are roleplaying then you have to be Satan or a Demon

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

"If you are town your read is bad. To be honest it is the Theme of the game. I thought I could handle it but it is hard for me personally. And that should not stop you from being able to role play. You see with what you posted I am going to be hard tunneled on you. because If you where Godly you would NEVER posted what you posted. Now If you are Town. My tunnel on you is going to hurt town."
Dude Mike Quote

The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.

[Samson]

you want prof God exists?

[Wiisp]

What in the world...

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

if you are roleplaying then you have to be Satan or a Demon

My objection to supernatural beliefs is precisely that they miserably fail to do justice to the sublime grandeur of the real world. They represent a narrowing-down from reality, an impoverishment of what the real world has to offer.

[Wiisp]

Are we really doing this in a God damn mafia game?

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

you want prof God exists?

Science replaces private prejudice with public, verifiable evidence.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

if you are roleplaying then you have to be Satan or a Demon

Don't take our roleplay to heart, it does no effect our true beliefs outside of this realm .
Part of me also has no idea which colour to use as they have been mixing up our light (Color)

And perhaps you could see us as part angel part demon, with a constant war raging between us inside.
In the end, all we desire is peace

[Samson]

The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.

Well you think that? explain to me Why there is a perfect balance of life? Lets look at Science. Science has shown that everything in life has a perfect balance. How would you explain that? OK During Bible times how would you explain God telling Job That there where rivers under the ocean? We did not discover that years ago.

[yzb25]

Well you think that? explain to me Why there is a perfect balance of life? Lets look at Science. Science has shown that everything in life has a perfect balance. How would you explain that? OK During Bible times how would you explain God telling Job That there where rivers under the ocean? We did not discover that years ago.

I recommend opening a thread in general discussion and taking this there. And maybe Hybrid Richard Dawkins relax the RP.

[Grayswandir]

I recommend opening a thread in general discussion and taking this there. And maybe @Hybrid Richard Dawkins (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=45756) relax the RP.
+1

[Samson]

Science replaces private prejudice with public, verifiable evidence.

Job 38:16
Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

Please explain how they would ever know this?????? during that time.

[Samson]

Are we really doing this in a God damn mafia game?

This is why I asked to replace out.

[Samson]

I did not want to ruin it for the rest of you.

[Samson]

Like I said it was me not you all.

[Wiisp]

This is why I asked to replace out.
you shouldn't have brought it up in thread then
if you are serious than stop talking in the thread

@Hybrid Richard Dawkins (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45756-Hybrid-Richard-Dawkins)
stop attacking peoples believes

this convo is over, this is a mafia game, not a political/religious topic

[yzb25]

Like I said it was me not you all.

nah don't beat yourself up about it man

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

@Hybrid Richard Dawkins (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45756-Hybrid-Richard-Dawkins)
stop attacking peoples believes

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in.

Some of us just go one god further.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

you shouldn't have brought it up in thread then
if you are serious than stop talking in the thread

@Hybrid Richard Dawkins (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45756-Hybrid-Richard-Dawkins)
stop attacking peoples believes

this convo is over, this is a mafia game, not a political/religious topic

Seems like someone is sending out the message that we should get back to science.

Yet they dare not push or question us, this leads us to believe they don't want us to reach the truth.

What could Wiisp wish to remain unknown?
Wiisp

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.

[Grayswandir]

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in.

Some of us just go one god further.

in before this is scum not knowing how to react as not to be scumread after Paul replaced out

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

in before this is scum not knowing how to react as not to be scumread after Paul replaced out

Planting a seed of mistrust. This is noted in our Evidence.

[yzb25]

Is the different shades of purple an indication of who is operating the archon? Who is SJ archon'd with? Or is the other head remaining anonymous?

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

in before this is scum not knowing how to react as not to be scumread after Paul replaced out

If all the evidence in the universe turned in favour of creationism, I would be the first to admit it, and I would immediately change my mind. As things stand, however, all available evidence (and there is a vast amount of it) favours evolution.

[Grayswandir]

in before this is scum not knowing how to react as not to be scumread after Paul replaced out
disregard, I’m retarded

[yzb25]

If all the evidence in the universe turned in favour of creationism, I would be the first to admit it, and I would immediately change my mind. As things stand, however, all available evidence (and there is a vast amount of it) favours evolution.

yeah yeah you don't believe the world was created in 7 days awesome awesome. If you use the RP as a way to dodge semi-serious prodding it'll be noted

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

disregard, I’m retarded

All is forgiven, as all of the evidence points to genuine confusion.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

yeah yeah you don't believe the world was created in 7 days awesome awesome. If you use the RP as a way to dodge semi-serious prodding it'll be noted

If you don't understand how something
works, never mind: just give up and say God did it. You don't
know how the nerve impulse works? Good! You don't understand
how memories are laid down in the brain? Excellent! Is photosynthesis
a bafflingly complex process? Wonderful! Please don't go
to work on the problem, just give up, and appeal to God.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Is the different shades of purple an indication of who is operating the archon? Who is SJ archon'd with? Or is the other head remaining anonymous?

I wish, although we are an Archon, ONE OF US finds it amusing to constantly steal my color to create chaos. The part wishes to remain anonymous, don't wish to reveal which other site the personality have come from

[Grayswandir]

@Pink Person why did you keep posting roleplay after Paul threatened to replace out over the atheism RP?

[Wiisp]

Seems like someone is sending out the message that we should get back to science.

Yet they dare not push or question us, this leads us to believe they don't want us to reach the truth.

What could Wiisp wish to remain unknown?
Wiisp
????

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

@Pink Person why did you keep posting roleplay after Paul threatened to replace out over the atheism RP?

Indeed, organizing atheists has been compared to herding cats, because they tend to think independently and will not conform to authority.

[yzb25]

Indeed, organizing atheists has been compared to herding cats, because they tend to think independently and will not conform to authority.

Hybrid Richard Dawkins

Looks like the atheists are struggling to see eye to eye rn <3

[Wiisp]

pretty sure it works like this

I can't really respond to the vote on me, since I'm not about to play musical chairs with posts

[Wiisp]

actually nah
[vote]
Hybrid Richard Dawkins (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45756-Hybrid-Richard-Dawkins)
[/unvote]
explain your thoughts,
I am leaving Paul alone for now

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

https://youtu.be/KS7_qJOD86s

[Wiisp]

[vote]Hybrid Richard Dawkins (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/45756)[/unvote]

[Wiisp]

god wtf is this site
Hybrid Richard Dawkins

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Hybrid Richard Dawkins

Looks like the atheists are struggling to see eye to eye rn <3

The atheist view is correspondingly life-affirming and life-enhancing, while at the same time never being tainted with self-delusion, wishful thinking, or the whingeing self-pity of those who feel that life owes them something.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

god wtf is this site
Hybrid Richard Dawkins

The evidence points to cognitive dissonance, given you tried to both vote and unvote in the same post.

[Grayswandir]

god wtf is this site
Hybrid Richard Dawkins
Sorry. I’ve never seen this before. Lol

[SuperJack]

ohh an anon account, which means they are hiding from meta
Wonder what they are afraid of


The only reason I fall back into my older playstyle is if I really need to control the game as wolf, or stop town from playing poorly

you played with me? I dont remember you from my old games


if you want to do these roleplays, at least make them easy to understand
else please stop


Ohh he broke the roleplay, with thoughts, kinda wolfy Paul
Explain to me how you finna add more colors, and even colors on only parts of words as if my Brian is going to highlight "is" in random words. And you had to of known what I asked, because your post didn't say anything tangible on why they were wolves or towns, u just added the word town and wolf there.

Paul

At least until I find a better option. Cause this is just slightly policy in a way

Magoroth, u are telling me, in a 13 player game, u wouldn't blink if you got put to L1? Ok boomer

Here one creates unnecessary shade from baseless accusations.
Anons are not a alignment tell.
Roleplay is not an alignment tell.
Stopping roleplaying (after being asked) is not an alignment tell

And you are crafting your own image to express to the rest of us about your scum/town play. This is Manipulative, which is certainly an Evil action

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

ohh an anon account, which means they are hiding from meta
Wonder what they are afraid of


The only reason I fall back into my older playstyle is if I really need to control the game as wolf, or stop town from playing poorly

you played with me? I dont remember you from my old games


if you want to do these roleplays, at least make them easy to understand
else please stop


Ohh he broke the roleplay, with thoughts, kinda wolfy Paul
Explain to me how you finna add more colors, and even colors on only parts of words as if my Brian is going to highlight "is" in random words. And you had to of known what I asked, because your post didn't say anything tangible on why they were wolves or towns, u just added the word town and wolf there.

Paul

At least until I find a better option. Cause this is just slightly policy in a way

Magoroth, u are telling me, in a 13 player game, u wouldn't blink if you got put to L1? Ok boomer

Here one creates unnecessary shade from baseless accusations.
Anons are not a alignment tell.
Roleplay is not an alignment tell.
Stopping roleplaying (after being asked) is not an alignment tell

And you are crafting your own image to express to the rest of us about your scum/town play. This is Manipulative, which is certainly an Evil action

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I apologize to my fellow intellectuals for my counterpart's consistent and embarrassing COM slips

[Grayswandir]

I actually agree with this train.
Wiisp

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I apologize to my fellow intellectuals for my counterpart's consistent and embarrassing COM slips

How dare you question my intellect, the only reason this occurs is because you have no idea how to play as Demon.

[Wiisp]

lol you don't need to tell me about roleplay being NAI
this is simply you not being clear with your thoughts when I asked you too
Idk what exactly I said in regards to anons, outside someone seems to be hiding from meta
like that is literally why people play on anons

and you are wrong, if someone abruptly stops a roleplay to explain their reads, after people start voting them, its looks like garbage

I also probably should be taking Paul's previous reaction as NAI, but personally I kinda want to still yeet him for all of that non-sense last page
I'm not crafting anything, there are some people here that have seen my previous play, and I actually played a game prior to this one where I changed my playstyle as well
I just so happened to be a wolf there, but it had no consequence on any of that

I will make this clear for you special people that want to do roleplay's
Make your thoughts clear or stop roleplaying
you do not have to avoid the other because you are roleplaying, and if you can't convey your thoughts with the roleplay, you should stop, its common sense

easy

I think #179 was probably your first game related post, good job, round of applause

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I actually agree with this train.
Wiisp

A great scientist would do their own research and investigation to come to their own conclusion. All you do with this is piggy back off someone else possibly incorrect hypothesis because it aligns with your desire.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

How dare you question my intellect, the only reason this occurs is because you have no idea how to play as Demon.

Why sir, you must be mistaken. Demon's are supernatural beings. I am well educated in supernaturalism, and more than capable of "playing" as one.

[Grayswandir]

I feel like SJ is trolling us and there is only one person in that ‘archon’

[Grayswandir]

A great scientist would do their own research and investigation to come to their own conclusion. All you do with this is piggy back off someone else possibly incorrect hypothesis because it aligns with your desire.
and my desire is, what? are you saying i’m sheeping you? you don’t know my thought process, dont presume to interpret it when you’ve not read half the thread.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I feel like SJ is trolling us and there is only one person in that ‘archon’

If you're going to make baseless claims identical to claims made by creationists about the origin of life, I say unto you this:

Show me the evidence.

[Wiisp]

I feel like SJ is trolling us and there is only one person in that ‘archon’
I mean if thats the case, then it shouldnt be labeled as a hydra, cause that affects our reads

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

lol you don't need to tell me about roleplay being NAI
this is simply you not being clear with your thoughts when I asked you too
Idk what exactly I said in regards to anons, outside someone seems to be hiding from meta
like that is literally why people play on anons

and you are wrong, if someone abruptly stops a roleplay to explain their reads, after people start voting them, its looks like garbage

I also probably should be taking Paul's previous reaction as NAI, but personally I kinda want to still yeet him for all of that non-sense last page
I'm not crafting anything, there are some people here that have seen my previous play, and I actually played a game prior to this one where I changed my playstyle as well
I just so happened to be a wolf there, but it had no consequence on any of that

I will make this clear for you special people that want to do roleplay's
Make your thoughts clear or stop roleplaying
you do not have to avoid the other because you are roleplaying, and if you can't convey your thoughts with the roleplay, you should stop, its common sense

easy

I think #179 was probably your first game related post, good job, round of applause

Incorrect, those who halt roleplay on day1 are merely exiting the day1 troll phase. Any other time it may be an indication. Your hypothesis is incorrect
You continue you craft an Image of your meta to make it more difficult for those to get an accurate read of you. This is evidence of evil
You fail to see any deeper meaning in any of our other posts, this shows that you do not care to really discover our alignment. This is evidence you are evil.
And now you use sarcasm to make yourself appear stronger, this is a pathetic way to gain credibility.

[Wiisp]

Hybrid Richard Dawkins

Looks like the atheists are struggling to see eye to eye rn <3
so what exactly is the reasoning for this vote?

[Wiisp]

to be fair, I am stronger than many players on this site lmao
There is literally nothing meaningful coming from any of your posts, outside the one I talked about
and your question towards Gray
#bet

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

and my desire is, what? are you saying i’m sheeping you? you don’t know my thought process, dont presume to interpret it when you’ve not read half the thread.

Here we have baseless accusations on not reading the texts, claims to a though process yet no intel on what that process is. Do you not understand how the Experimental Method works?

[Wiisp]

Maybe don't troll then? or attack other players beliefs and then call that content
"it may be indication" lmao, yes, that's exactly what I am implying you potato

[Grayswandir]

@HRP Can you please drop the roleplay a bit and talk normally? I find it very hard to understand whay you’re saying

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

to be fair, I am stronger than many players on this site lmao
There is literally nothing meaningful coming from any of your posts, outside the one I talked about
and your question towards Gray
#bet

Claiming to be stronger than many players on this site is like calming you can run faster than everyone at a wheelchair convention.
And you continue to ignore suggestions that we have good information in our posts that you have missed

[Helz]

Built a crazy computer from the ground up that can run any game at like 500fps on max graphics and whats the first thing I do with it?

Play text based forum mafia...

Sometimes I question my life choices..

Before I read up I will mention it helps to read you as a hydra if you designate who is posting between the 2 heads.

[Grayswandir]

Claiming to be stronger than many players on this site is like calming you can run faster than everyone at a wheelchair convention.
And you continue to ignore suggestions that we have good information in our posts that you have missed
​Lmaoo

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Maybe don't troll then? or attack other players beliefs and then call that content
"it may be indication" lmao, yes, that's exactly what I am implying you potato

This is the third time, you have reached the rule of 3 and this discussion has now ended since you can't grasp what is beyond you.


Built a crazy computer from the ground up that can run any game at like 500fps on max graphics and whats the first thing I do with it?

Play text based forum mafia...

Sometimes I question my life choices..

Before I read up I will mention it helps to read you as a hydra if you designate who is posting between the 2 heads.

There is attempts, but a CERTAIN part of me is laughing hilariously at my frustration.
Fear not, as it will make our alignment more clear from a different direction.

Grayswandir still sitting at the side.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Maybe don't troll then? or attack other players beliefs and then call that content
"it may be indication" lmao, yes, that's exactly what I am implying you potato

The fact that it has nothing else to contribute to human wisdom is no reason to hand religion a free licence to tell us what to do. Which religion, anyway? The one in which we happen to have been brought up? To which chapter, then, of which book of the Bible should we turn—for they are far from unanimous and some of them are odious by any reasonable standards. How many literalists have read enough of the Bible to know that the death penalty is prescribed for adultery, for gathering sticks on the sabbath and for cheeking your parents? If we reject Deuteronomy and Leviticus (as all enlightened moderns do), by what criteria do we then decide which of religion's moral values to accept? Or should we pick and choose among all the world's religions until we find one whose moral teaching suits us? If so, again we must ask, by what criterion do we choose? And if we have independent criteria for choosing among religious moralities, why not cut out the middle man and go straight for the moral choice without the religion?

[yzb25]

so what exactly is the reasoning for this vote?




in before this is scum not knowing how to react as not to be scumread after Paul replaced outPlanting a seed of mistrust. This is noted in our Evidence.

Hybrid's first reaction to gray's weird post was the above.



disregard, I’m retardedAll is forgiven, as all of the evidence points to genuine confusion.

Then the moment gray backtracked on it he just immediately let it go. If he townreads gray, the first post is just a random shade to dismantle the suspicion. If he scumreads gray, letting go of the backtrack is really weird. Even if he nullreads gray this progression doesn't make sense to me from the pov of someone trying to read slots.

In the wider context of the fact they literally replied to my attack on their dodging with RP with a dodge with RP, it feels like the slot is more concerned with defusing every situation / dodging pressure. Hence the vote.

that is what was going through my head when I casted the vote

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

@HRP Can you please drop the roleplay a bit and talk normally? I find it very hard to understand whay you’re saying

That it will never come again is what makes life so sweet.

[Grayswandir]

Jesus Christ, I just can’t.
i’m not sitting at the sides you doofus. maybe if you’d actually bothered to read the thread you woulda seen that. I agree with this train 100%, I just can’t deal with your attitude. Stop. As scum it made me AFK out of the game, as town it just makes angry and not wanna talk to you
want my reads on Wiisp? Here, you’ve got them:
wiisp is sitting at the sides, throwing weird shade at ppl. reminds me of the last time I played with him when we were both scum together, but what really pinged me was the way he was calling out ppl for scummy things, he would add a diminutive to lessen them, and make them somewhat ambiguous, like the way he said ‘kinda wolfy

[Wiisp]

Claiming to be stronger than many players on this site is like calming you can run faster than everyone at a wheelchair convention.
And you continue to ignore suggestions that we have good information in our posts that you have missed
no you dont, and im glad you can insult your own site with such ease lol

[Grayswandir]

Hybrid's first reaction to gray's weird post was the above.



Then the moment gray backtracked on it he just immediately let it go. If he townreads gray, the first post is just a random shade to dismantle the suspicion. If he scumreads gray, letting go of the backtrack is really weird. Even if he nullreads gray this progression doesn't make sense to me from the pov of someone trying to read slots.

In the wider context of the fact they literally replied to my attack on their dodging with RP with a dodge with RP, it feels like the slot is more concerned with defusing every situation / dodging pressure. Hence the vote.

that is what was going through my head when I casted the vote
Dunno, pretty sure that is something I woulda done in games as well. I don’t think it’s AI. At worst its town indicative but I don’t think it is.

[Grayswandir]

I need to go away because this interaction made me so angry for like no reason lol. Bye

[Wiisp]

Jesus Christ, I just can’t.
i’m not sitting at the sides you doofus. maybe if you’d actually bothered to read the thread you woulda seen that. I agree with this train 100%, I just can’t deal with your attitude. Stop. As scum it made me AFK out of the game, as town it just makes angry and not wanna talk to you
want my reads on Wiisp? Here, you’ve got them:
wiisp is sitting at the sides, throwing weird shade at ppl. reminds me of the last time I played with him when we were both scum together, but what really pinged me was the way he was calling out ppl for scummy things, he would add a diminutive to lessen them, and make them somewhat ambiguous, like the way he said ‘kinda wolfy
lol its called be hedgy, i am way more hedgy then I used to be, and nothing said so far has been definitive, its mostly based on what people perceive, some people may jump to conclusions, but I certainly will not
I will spend more time trying to get others to participate, and/or getting people to be more clear with their thoughts
but I like this post, thanks for this

[yzb25]

Dunno, pretty sure that is something I woulda done in games as well. I don’t think it’s AI. At worst its town indicative but I don’t think it is.

I've seen towns do it too. It's not like I have lock-scum reasoning. Wiisp asked and I gave.

Even outside of that I just get bad vibes from the slot. I know the slot gives off all these little low-effort town vibes but the ppl behind the slot are clearly totally sweating out the game lol.

But yes, not exactly lock-scum reasoning. I misread BC a year ago for giving the same incorrect vibes, so I get I need to be cautious here.

[Wiisp]

I wonder why the same stuff always comes up time and time again, when people roleplay
man do I so wonder :rolleyes:

[yzb25]

I need to go away because this interaction made me so angry for like no reason lol. Bye

eh, don't sweat it. Enjoy a nice bath or something

[SamsungLyssa]

I havent looked at my role yet, not sure if my other head has
Just got vaccinated
/vote yzb25

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Jesus Christ, I just can’t.
i’m not sitting at the sides you doofus. maybe if you’d actually bothered to read the thread you woulda seen that. I agree with this train 100%, I just can’t deal with your attitude. Stop. As scum it made me AFK out of the game, as town it just makes angry and not wanna talk to you
want my reads on Wiisp? Here, you’ve got them:
wiisp is sitting at the sides, throwing weird shade at ppl. reminds me of the last time I played with him when we were both scum together, but what really pinged me was the way he was calling out ppl for scummy things, he would add a diminutive to lessen them, and make them somewhat ambiguous, like the way he said ‘kinda wolfy

It is all too easy to mistake passion that can change its mind for fundamentalism, which never will.

[Wiisp]

I havent looked at my role yet, not sure if my other head has
Just got vaccinated
/vote yzb25
then you shouldn't be posting honestly

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I've seen towns do it too. It's not like I have lock-scum reasoning. Wiisp asked and I gave.

Even outside of that I just get bad vibes from the slot. I know the slot gives off all these little low-effort town vibes but the ppl behind the slot are clearly totally sweating out the game lol.

But yes, not exactly lock-scum reasoning. I misread BC a year ago for giving the same incorrect vibes, so I get I need to be cautious here.

Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

[yzb25]

I'm also a little unsettled by the drastic character change of wiisp after being voted from like, telling me to drink water and mind-melding with me about anxiety to declaring themselves one of the best players on the site and going hard aggro mode. If this is just a character trait and not some insane flipflop I'd appreciate input on that.

[Grayswandir]

I will be back tomorrow. If someone scumpaints me or tries to for ‘not being pushy’, I’m not always pushy and when I am its almost like random chance, I don’t know how to trigger it, sometimes I am, sometimes I’m not. Don’t blame me for playing this. I don’t always play aggressively, even though I wish I did, because I don’t always see the same things I see when I’m 100% focused and reading properly. I thought I knew how to trigger that, and tried to the at the beginning of the game by reading various posts over and over and over, but I just can’t always do it. Sometimes when it does happen its like a brief moment when I see something very clearly, like when SJ pointed out Wiisp’s posts, but it quickly fades.

[yzb25]

I havent looked at my role yet, not sure if my other head has
Just got vaccinated
/vote yzb25

is this another anon archon or do we get to know the names of the ppl behind it

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I havent looked at my role yet, not sure if my other head has
Just got vaccinated
/vote yzb25

Welcome, fellow student of life. I sincerely hope you enjoy your time here; cherish it for it will be gone before any of us realize it.

[Wiisp]

I'm also a little unsettled by the drastic character change of wiisp after being voted from like, telling me to drink water and mind-melding with me about anxiety to declaring themselves one of the best players on the site and going hard aggro mode. If this is just a character trait and not some insane flipflop I'd appreciate input on that.you are certainly in for a magical ride then lol

[Grayswandir]

is this another anon archon or do we get to know the names of the ppl behind it
I invited them into the game so I know both their COMs, but I don’t think I can tell?

[Grayswandir]

I'm also a little unsettled by the drastic character change of wiisp after being voted from like, telling me to drink water and mind-melding with me about anxiety to declaring themselves one of the best players on the site and going hard aggro mode. If this is just a character trait and not some insane flipflop I'd appreciate input on that.
Wiisp used to be this insane aggro person when he first played here. He mentioned changing his playstyle so mb all thats happened is that hes learnt to control it, but at the core he is still the same Wiisp as before

[Grayswandir]

And it comes out when he gets angry, lol.

[yzb25]

I invited them into the game so I know both their COMs, but I don’t think I can tell?

I'm kind of enjoying the agony of not knowing if there even is another account in Richard Dawkins aside SJ and how tf I should go about reading the slot, so maybe I can derive the same pleasure from this. Depending on how eye-gouging this goes I might start begging u to tell me tho XD.

[yzb25]

Wiisp used to be this insane aggro person when he first played here. He mentioned changing his playstyle so mb all thats happened is that hes learnt to control it, but at the core he is still the same Wiisp as before

I got the hint they used to be more aggro. I was wondering if there was precedent for character switches. But I guess I can rationalize a town!pov for cracking when they did. I'ma have to chew on that one.

[Helz]

A few thoughts after digging through the setup-

God should not Doc
Priest should keep in mind scum keep their chat after death before going for some FPS stuff
Counsellor should use their ability early- Be cautious that hitting a scum would allow them to TPR hunt you and share the info to their team, I think this role is less likely given Priest's function although you could host meta the value of multiple chats in a long day phase game
Soul Probe is likely one of our two TPR's for game balance

God and Priest can mechanically confirm by slots, God can confirm 1 slot via check, Counsellor, Knight and Guardian can semi-confirm. There is a potential 'best case' situation of a town block of 5 mechanically
TPR should be cautious in confirming their role given Satans 1 shot role guess kill so keep that in mind if you vig a night immune or get a scum peek.
For this reason citizens should not claim Angel to provide TPR cover from Satans 1 shot role guess

I 'think' permanent chat refers to scum getting a wolf chat thats active during the day as well but waiting for confirmation on that. Given the amount of time I would not be surprised to see some coordinated play. It also means that under pressure they can phone a friend for advice which opens up some scum hunting potentials.

AIVION Are players informed when they are being killed by Satan at days start or do they just surprise flip at EOD?
If so given Satan's kill functions like a poisoner we should daily treat the killed as confirmed town and they should role claim as that Satans role guess is a night action (post flip for them)

Will catch up on chat and such after I dig up an old avatar thats all too fitting for this game : )

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I'm also a little unsettled by the drastic character change of wiisp after being voted from like, telling me to drink water and mind-melding with me about anxiety to declaring themselves one of the best players on the site and going hard aggro mode. If this is just a character trait and not some insane flipflop I'd appreciate input on that.

Are you asking for someone to tell you how you should read someone? this isn't what a townsfolk would do.

Also, easy way to tell the different between me and my asshole partner is that I can actually play Mafia, the other is from a roleplaying site who lacks much Mafia skill.

[Grayswandir]

Are you asking for someone to tell you how you should read someone? this isn't what a townsfolk would do.

Also, easy way to tell the different between me and my asshole partner is that I can actually play Mafia, the other is from a roleplaying site who lacks much Mafia skill.
I profoundly disagree lol. I do that all the time. I literally did it in this game.

[Wiisp]

Are you asking for someone to tell you how you should read someone? this isn't what a townsfolk would do.

Also, easy way to tell the different between me and my asshole partner is that I can actually play Mafia, the other is from a roleplaying site who lacks much Mafia skill.
the first is pretty subjective
and lol to the second comment


since I do not care much for yeeting this slot atm, after they responded with some real thoughts
debating on y2b, but I am about to raid soon in WoW

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

A few thoughts after digging through the setup-

God should not Doc
Priest should keep in mind scum keep their chat after death before going for some FPS stuff
Counsellor should use their ability early- Be cautious that hitting a scum would allow them to TPR hunt you and share the info to their team, I think this role is less likely given Priest's function although you could host meta the value of multiple chats in a long day phase game
Soul Probe is likely one of our two TPR's for game balance

God and Priest can mechanically confirm by slots, God can confirm 1 slot via check, Counsellor, Knight and Guardian can semi-confirm. There is a potential 'best case' situation of a town block of 5 mechanically
TPR should be cautious in confirming their role given Satans 1 shot role guess kill so keep that in mind if you vig a night immune or get a scum peek.
For this reason citizens should not claim Angel to provide TPR cover from Satans 1 shot role guess

I 'think' permanent chat refers to scum getting a wolf chat thats active during the day as well but waiting for confirmation on that. Given the amount of time I would not be surprised to see some coordinated play. It also means that under pressure they can phone a friend for advice which opens up some scum hunting potentials.

AIVION Are players informed when they are being killed by Satan at days start or do they just surprise flip at EOD?
If so given Satan's kill functions like a poisoner we should daily treat the killed as confirmed town and they should role claim as that Satans role guess is a night action (post flip for them)

Will catch up on chat and such after I dig up an old avatar thats all too fitting for this game : )

I find it concerning that all this is pro-town setup analysis which is very easy to do and scores easy town credibility . You should of also handed out tips for the Satan team.

On that note we ask the Counsellor to invite us to talk at night. We promise not to upset you sanity

[yzb25]

Are you asking for someone to tell you how you should read someone? this isn't what a townsfolk would do.

Also, easy way to tell the different between me and my asshole partner is that I can actually play Mafia, the other is from a roleplaying site who lacks much Mafia skill.

I don't know how on earth my posts gave the impression I'm sheeping someone else's read. Asking whether something is part of someone's meta to prevent misreading off of something NAI is an extremely common occurence.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I profoundly disagree lol. I do that all the time. I literally did it in this game.

Why are you defending someone else so early in the game and not allowing us to push for interaction for alignment indication?


Wiisp leaving the room taking the highchair and backing away under the guise their goal was to only push for contect

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I don't know how on earth my posts gave the impression I'm sheeping someone else's read. Asking whether something is part of someone's meta to prevent misreading off of something NAI is an extremely common occurence.

Oh hey, can someone let me know if I can scum read them for playing this K THANKS BYE.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I will be back tomorrow. If someone scumpaints me or tries to for ‘not being pushy’, I’m not always pushy and when I am its almost like random chance, I don’t know how to trigger it, sometimes I am, sometimes I’m not. Don’t blame me for playing this. I don’t always play aggressively, even though I wish I did, because I don’t always see the same things I see when I’m 100% focused and reading properly. I thought I knew how to trigger that, and tried to the at the beginning of the game by reading various posts over and over and over, but I just can’t always do it. Sometimes when it does happen its like a brief moment when I see something very clearly, like when SJ pointed out Wiisp’s posts, but it quickly fades.

Remember when I called out Wiisp for telling people how they should read them.
Yeh Grayswandir also just done that.

[yzb25]

Oh hey, can someone let me know if I can scum read them for playing this K THANKS BYE.

bruh

[Grayswandir]

Why are you defending someone else so early in the game and not allowing us to push for interaction for alignment indication?


Wiisp leaving the room taking the highchair and backing away under the guise their goal was to only push for contect
You’re right. My bad. Go ahead.

[Grayswandir]

Remember when I called out Wiisp for telling people how they should read them.
Yeh Grayswandir also just done that.
Have you ever actually seen scum do that? 3/3 games I’ve seen ppl accuse others of doing it, all the people getting accused were town. Honestly, this point seems really forced. No offense but you are reading WAY too much into everything ppl do.

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

Have you ever actually seen scum do that? 3/3 games I’ve seen ppl accuse others of doing it, all the people getting accused were town. Honestly, this point seems really forced. No offense but you are reading WAY too much into everything ppl do.

I mean we could go back to just spamming about atheism if reading way too much into everything people do is too much for you to keep up with

[Helz]

No offense but you are reading WAY too much into everything ppl do.

I think thats exactly what we should be doing to break RVS

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I think thats exactly what we should be doing to break RVS

Hello boobies

[Helz]

Hello boobies

Its totally ok because for some reason you can show 99% of the boobs as long as the nipple is covered

And this is my master plan to distract players from reading me : )

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I mean we could go back to just spamming about atheism if reading way too much into everything people do is too much for you to keep up with

Well-done with your first easily noticeable content post. But you have to remember I'm the clever one. You're the potatoe one.

Also to Grey, a read requires gathering many pieces of evidence. They may start off small and non alignment indication alone, yet puzzle with others and we get an understanding.

You have to accounts for all possible variables to get an accurate reading.

[Grayswandir]

Well-done with your first easily noticeable content post. But you have to remember I'm the clever one. You're the potatoe one.

Also to Grey, a read requires gathering many pieces of evidence. They may start off small and non alignment indication alone, yet puzzle with others and we get an understanding.

You have to accounts for all possible variables to get an accurate reading.
You’re right. I’m just getting angry at stupid shit for no reason right now, sorry if I’m being unreasonable. I will take a break to cool down. Also, please tell the other person in tbe account to chill out. Not interested in pissing matches with them.

[Helz]

Smited:
No one's met their maker just yet!

I wonder who Gods maker is

[Helz]

Seems to me that a few players in this game hold their skill in high regard.

Anyone up for a little mini contest? We could PM the host our daily reads so people can't just cherry pick the times they were right post game for a bit of giggles and bragging rights : )

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

I wonder who Gods maker is

A designer God cannot be used to explain organized complexity because any God capable of designing anything would have to be complex enough to demand the same kind of explanation in his own right.

[Wiisp]

Seems to me that a few players in this game hold their skill in high regard.

Anyone up for a little mini contest? We could PM the host our daily reads so people can't just cherry pick the times they were right post game for a bit of giggles and bragging rights : )maybe towards the end of day 1, I might try this out
anyways, I like you, you can be town

hybrid can be town as well

[Helz]

maybe towards the end of day 1, I might try this out
anyways, I like you, you can be town

hybrid can be town as well

Strange. I only have 1 post of substance and 0 player analysis. You gave me that town cred pretty easily.

What makes you town lean me from that setup analysis post?

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

maybe towards the end of day 1, I might try this out
anyways, I like you, you can be town

hybrid can be town as well

How on earth has Helz proven themselves to be town? With what evidence have we proven ourselves either?

SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE!!!

[Wiisp]

U underestimate me if you think I can't find someone townie after just one post, I like there little game, it feels uninformed

And once you starting saying actual words, I thii don't hate the content

[Hybrid Richard Dawkins]

https://youtu.be/RwNylnm3DRA