Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 320)

[MartinGG99]

Winter 2020-21 ?KRC(S-FM 319)

Setup Link (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45214-S-FM-krc)

There are a total of 10 players. Everyone should receive their role-cards and FM anonymous account information approximately 24 hours prior to the game start simultaneously.

Additionally, since practically every role-card has been edited to some degree, everyone will receive a copy of the final version of their role-card submission in the interest of fairness.


The game will start in about
01:15:00:00

Two notes:

1. No one has been penalized as a result of the signup process.

2. As a reminder, the lynch/elimination system will be plurality without majority; this was determined prior to signups.

[MartinGG99]

Role-cards have been sent out.

Here is the player list:

Setup Link (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45214-S-FM-krc)



Player
Alive/Dead
ISO


S-FM BFTW
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45737&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM Sauron
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45738&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45739&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM Acidic Egypt
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45740&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM Spain Land
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45741&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM Heavy Handed
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45742&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM Skin Overdose
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45743&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM TBD
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45744&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45745&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)


S-FM Dont Ask
Alive
ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=45746&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)



ISO Links will be updated as soon as I can after they make their first post in the thread.

Host ISO (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=21928&searchthreadid=47994&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1)

See the above post to know how much time is left until the game and day 1 starts.

[MartinGG99]

Day 1 Has Begun

Day 1 ends in about
01:23:00:00

99



Additionally, S-FM Sauron is a MVP!

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

2. As a reminder, the lynch/elimination system will be plurality without majority; this was determined prior to signups.
https://i.imgur.com/nC7q3.gif


Additionally, S-FM Sauron

[S-FM Dont Ask]

How come I'm not the MVP

[S-FM Dont Ask]

The game plan is simple. Those of us with green bars band together and become the green bar gang.

We move together. We vote together. We win together.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

How come I'm not the MVP
I think it's a bait to vote him.
Let's vote him to see what happens.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

The game plan is simple. Those of us with green bars band together and become the green bar gang.

We move together. We vote together. We win together.
https://media.tenor.com/images/c451fa4feb727316dc0dea1e21888f34/tenor.gif

[S-FM Dont Ask]

S-FM Sauron (1 [L-98]):
S-FM Skin Overdose

Host lied. Hammer is at 99 votes.

If we get 20 50% majorities or 11 9 vote trains we can lynch whoever we want. The game plan is simple. We all gather 17 alternate accounts and move as voting blocks. We will create the majority.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Official townsfolk here. This is my rolecard:



Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.


First half shall be discussing the competition of best AvaTar.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Official townsfolk here. This is my rolecard:


Coke Dealer

Every night you can target someone to drug. They will be role-blocked and will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.



Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.


First half shall be discussing the competition of best AvaTar.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Official townsfolk here. This is my rolecard:


Coke Dealer

Every night you can target someone to drug. They will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.

Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.


First half shall be discussing the competition of best AvaTar.

Official townsfolk here

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Official townsfolk here
Quote Originally Posted by S-FM FirstDimensionalLife View Post
Official townsfolk here. This is my rolecard:


Coke Dealer
Every night you can target someone to drug. They will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.
Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.


First half shall be discussing the competition of best AvaTar.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Official townsfolk here


Official townsfolk here
Quote Originally Posted by S-FM FirstDimensionalLife View Post
Official townsfolk here. This is my rolecard:


Coke Dealer
Every night you can target someone to drug. They will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.
Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.


First half shall be discussing the competition of best AvaTar.


[QUOTE][COLOR="#00FF00"Coke Dealer[/COLOR]]
Every night you can target someone to drug. They will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.
Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away./COLOR]

[S-FM Spain Land]

according to my rolecard I have no balls

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

OK I may be on Coke. But who would trust a dealer that never tries their own produce?

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

Host lied. Hammer is at 99 votes.

If we get 20 50% majorities or 11 9 vote trains we can lynch whoever we want. The game plan is simple. We all gather 17 alternate accounts and move as voting blocks. We will create the majority.

Or wait for the day to end.
BRB ~40h

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Coke Dealer

Every night you can target someone to drug. They will roleblock (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.
Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.

[S-FM Spain Land]

what is an MVP..

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Coke Dealer
Every night you can target someone to Roleblock. They will Drug(unable to post) through the first half of the next Drug phase.
Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

what is an MVP..

Most Venerable Plank

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

Everyone's invited to the party at my place tonight!

I might have "The Corona Covid Virus" though.

[naz]

reminder: posting the role card YOU SUMBITTED is against the rule
you are not allowed to discuss the role u submitted in any chat

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

posting your role card is against the rule
You are not allowed to discuss your role in any chat
Read the RULES

Submitted or Present or Both?
Just making sure.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

posting the role card YOU SUMBITTED is against the rule
You are not allowed to discuss the role u submitted in any chat

Hello!

This is a PM containing:

1. Your anonymous account info

2. The final, edited, version of the role that you submitted. (Everyone's role-card submission was edited hence why I am showing them)

3. Your role-card and any other relevant information.

Please note that this is being sent approximately 24 hours from the game's start time. To see the countdown, click here.


Spoiler : Anon Account info :


Username:
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
Password:
SegaisLife84


Spoiler : Final edited version of your role-submission :

Rulebreaker

You must break four rules per day and night cycle

If this goal is reached, you may add or edit one rule within reason.


Spoiler : Your role-card :

Coke Dealer

Every night you can target someone to drug. They will be protected and will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.


Spoiler : Any other information :

You have more additional information.


For your convivence, this PM has been sent to your anonymous account as well.

[MartinGG99]

reminder: posting the role card YOU SUMBITTED is against the rule
you are not allowed to discuss the role u submitted in any chat

To clarify:



You are not allowed to share the role you submitted in any chats. Day, night or factional. If you do, I will smite you.

That is the rule.

And yes I agree, sometimes people should read the rules lol.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

1. Role blocking / blackmailing roles are lame and everyone who made any such is a heretic.
2. Idk how that guy is gonna break 4 different rules per day and his role doesn't even have any upside.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

1. Role blocking / blackmailing roles are lame and everyone who made any such is a heretic.
2. Idk how that guy is gonna break 4 different rules per day and his role doesn't even have any upside.


They can add new rules its fun.

[S-FM Spain Land]

I have the best avatar..

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I have the best avatar..

You didn't even try. I hope you got a terrible role.

[S-FM Spain Land]

Hello!

This is a PM containing:

1. Your anonymous account info

2. The final, edited, version of the role that you submitted. (Everyone's role-card submission was edited hence why I am showing them)

3. Your role-card and any other relevant information.

Please note that this is being sent approximately 24 hours from the game's start time. To see the countdown, click here.


Spoiler : Anon Account info :


Username:
S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
Password:
SegaisLife84


Spoiler : Final edited version of your role-submission :

Rulebreaker

You must break four rules per day and night cycle

If this goal is reached, you may add or edit one rule within reason.


Spoiler : Your role-card :

Coke Dealer

Every night you can target someone to drug. They will be protected and will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.


Spoiler : Any other information :

You have more additional information.


For your convivence, this PM has been sent to your anonymous account as well.

LMAO

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

LMAO

I am glad you're entertained.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

They can add new rules its fun.
According to you yourself you're not even the rulebreaker but you are the one doing it.
Was this all a hoax? For what purpose exactly?

S-FM FirstDimensionalLife

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Adding new rules will create an easy town victory.

The game plan is simple. Add the rule "only town can win".

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

According to you yourself you're not even the rulebreaker but you are the one doing it.
Was this all a hoax? For what purpose exactly?

S-FM FirstDimensionalLife

Chaos my dear. Absolute chaos.
Why do you not reveal your role?

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Adding new rules will create an easy town victory.

The game plan is simple. Add the rule "only town can win".

Oh dear, you have no idea how Bastard games work. No matter what rule is added, the Host can easily change the game to cause it to be obsolete.

only town can win.

turns out all roles are town. just different towns.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

Chaos my dear. Absolute chaos.
Why do you not reveal your role?

What's the benefit or purpose of chaos?
Why would I reveal my role?

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Be warned, I am measuring your intellect and so far you are all failures.

[S-FM Spain Land]

You didn't even try. I hope you got a terrible role.
I sat at my computer for three hours yesterday.. trying to devise art.. this is what I came up with.. a tribute to our lord and savior Marshmallow Man.. also known as Stay Puft..

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

I sat at my computer for three hours yesterday.. trying to devise art.. this is what I came up with.. a tribute to our lord and savior Marshmallow Man.. also known as Stay Puft..
Please finish that last one :laugh:

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

What's the benefit or purpose of chaos?
Why would I reveal my role?


True chaos has no reason.


Because, all will be power roles. There will most likely be a majority team, therefore it is logical for all those to release all their information then we can push for the majority win condition. Hiding information is useless.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Carry on using white text and you won't be talking tomorrow.

[S-FM Sauron]

https://i.imgur.com/nC7q3.gif


Additionally, S-FM Sauron

From here on out, I’ll keep my eye on you.

[S-FM Sauron]

Day 1 Has Begun

Day 1 ends in about
[Countdown Timers Cannot be Quoted from Other Posts]

99



Additionally, S-FM Sauron is a MVP!

Oh wait my role reveals me as MVP?
Alright.

[S-FM Sauron]

Guess I didn’t SEE hard enough.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

therefore it is logical for all those to release all their information then we can push for the majority win condition. .

Transparency is important.
Please explain this idea more deeply to me.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

From here on out, I’ll keep my eye on you.

It's official. The Comedian is here. How are we to ever even keep our wits about when we have this gal causing us to constantly abuse our lungs in happy pain.

[S-FM Spain Land]

I am glad you're entertained.

so am I..

[S-FM Sauron]

according to my rolecard I have no balls

According to your name.
A land doesn’t have balls either.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Transparency is important.
Please explain this idea more deeply to me.


INFORMATION FOR TOWN GOOD.
HIDING INFO BAD.
RAIN IS WET.

[S-FM Spain Land]

revealing all roles is a bad idea.. do not claim your role.. keep it hidden.. scum want to know town roles..

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

According to your name.
A land doesn’t have balls either.

A pun, that was begging for you to take it? How could you note claim that yourself have one ball? Are you a fraud?

[S-FM Sauron]

revealing all roles is a bad idea.. do not claim your role.. keep it hidden.. scum want to know town roles..

Well it depends.
Depends on the role you have.
Sometimes it can help and sometimes it could hurt.
Just know the role you have a play it the best possible way.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

revealing all roles is a bad idea.. do not claim your role.. keep it hidden.. scum want to know town roles..

How does one know what the scum really want?
S-FM Spain Land
Saying, with certainly to know what the scum want.

Congratulations on being the first slot to be voted with a valid and explained reason to match.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

How does one know what the scum really want?
S-FM Spain Land
Saying, with certainly to know what the scum want.

Congratulations on being the first slot to be voted with a valid and explained reason to match.

Aka (For those who can't read between the lines, Spain knows what scum wants because they are scum)

[S-FM Sauron]

Also If you can identify who has your role, you might be able to know if they plan to use it for good or for bad intent.

[S-FM TBD]

Hello

[S-FM Spain Land]

because scum want town power roles revealed.. this isn’t a hard concept to understand.. I’m afraid I will have to disappoint you..

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Hello


Greetings fellow traveller. Please post your rolecard.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Also If you can identify who has your role, you might be able to know if they plan to use it for good or for bad intent.

Advocating pro-rolecard reveal.

Does not post rolecard

[S-FM Spain Land]

Well it depends.
Depends on the role you have.
Sometimes it can help and sometimes it could hurt.
Just know the role you have a play it the best possible way.

revealing our roles is anti-town and scummy.. town is best served by extreme chaos.. but do not reveal yet. we do not even know what kind of factiona there are.. there could be a cult for all we know..

[S-FM TBD]

reminder: posting the role card YOU SUMBITTED is against the rule
you are not allowed to discuss the role u submitted in any chat

So you are saying some folks have other chats than what is here...

[S-FM TBD]

Greetings fellow traveller. Please post your rolecard.

Hah, no.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

because scum want town power roles revealed.. this isn’t a hard concept to understand.. I’m afraid I will have to disappoint you..

I remind you, this is not your regular game with a buttload of citizens with a (un-needed) dependency on a cop to solve the game.

This is a Bastard, crazy ass shit game with a whole loada stupid roles leaving the Town with absolutely no idea of how to even attempt to play.

This mean, as much information as possible needs to be poured into the day, which includes rolecards. So that we can figure out how to win and what we are up against.



Hopefully, you can make some attempt to consider the actual setup?

[S-FM Spain Land]

this setup penalizes town claims.. scum have no incentive to claim their real role. they would lie.. pushing for mass claim is scummy in my view..

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

If anyone else uses the stupid reason of herp derp but scum want tpr will also be on the list to be muted tomorrrow.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

this setup penalizes town claims.. scum have no incentive to claim their real role. they would lie.. pushing for mass claim is scummy in my view..

ONLY if there was a way to figure out who is lying. Only if there was another person able to confirm their rolecard, or if there rolecard is missing.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I'm sure the setup does not realise how fucked the town is without information.
Because if the setup knew how badly the town needs the information, it would reveal it upon a death of a player, perhaps with both their role and the rolecard they crafted.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

ONLY if there was a way to figure out who is lying. Only if there was another person able to confirm their rolecard, or if there rolecard is missing.

It is my understanding that talking about one's submitted role is prohibited? Did you miss that?

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

I'm sure the setup does not realise how fucked the town is without information.
Because if the setup knew how badly the town needs the information, it would reveal it upon a death of a player, perhaps with both their role and the rolecard they crafted.

Are you a lost wolf soft claiming TMI here? Because it looks like it.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

It is my understanding that talking about one's submitted role is prohibited? Did you miss that?


I'm pretty sure that is very easily avoidable by specifically talking about all the other roles and purposely not talking about their submitted rolecard.


There is a serious lack of imagination.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Are you a lost wolf soft claiming TMI here? Because it looks like it.


Oh no, How has ye old skin managed to solve the game? I may as well Suicide now.
What? Suicide? Isn't that illegal?

Nope, turns out you can actually read the setup and it tells you rules and mechanics such as:


Suicide is allowed.

And, my personal favourite that shows how badly town needs rolecard reveals to win:

Upon a player's death, the rolecard they received and the rolecard they submitted will be revealed.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

So you are saying some folks have other chats than what is here...

The game plan is simple.

We vote out the guy making blatant observations who will never contribute anything.

S-FM TBD

Is it bad to have a meta scumread in an anonymous game?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

this setup penalizes town claims.. scum have no incentive to claim their real role. they would lie.. pushing for mass claim is scummy in my view..

Seconding this.

Normally scum have the info advantage. Here they don't have a significant info advantage because they don't know all the roles in the pool.

The game plan is simple. I will not be revealing my role at this time because my role does not benefit town to be revealed.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Seconding this.

Normally scum have the info advantage. Here they don't have a significant info advantage because they don't know all the roles in the pool.

The game plan is simple. I will not be revealing my role at this time because my role does not benefit town to be revealed.

Yet this point is already moot as scum can't lie about their role.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Wow. self preservation, greed and the need to feel special is so dominant so far.

[S-FM TBD]

The game plan is simple.

We vote out the guy making blatant observations who will never contribute anything.

S-FM TBD

Is it bad to have a meta scumread in an anonymous game?

The first hour of the game and you are already grasping at straws. Jesus christ you must be miserable. I shouldn't ask!

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Yet this point is already moot as scum can't lie about their role.

What do you mean? You think the scum can't lie about their role in a game where ALL OF THE ROLE INFORMATION IS HIDDEN?

The game plan is simple (for scum). Make up some random role that is similar to yours but excludes any KPN or pro-scum abilities.

Say my role is Johnny Awesome and I have the ability to kill someone and can one time publicly reveal the role of a player. I would omit to reveal the kill and just say "hey guys I can reveal the role of a player and my name is Obama".

[S-FM TBD]

Setup spec is not very impressive in this game so I'm not sure what ya'll tryharding about.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

What do you mean? You think the scum can't lie about their role in a game where ALL OF THE ROLE INFORMATION IS HIDDEN?

The game plan is simple (for scum). Make up some random role that is similar to yours but excludes any KPN or pro-scum abilities.

Say my role is Johnny Awesome and I have the ability to kill someone and can one time publicly reveal the role of a player. I would omit to reveal the kill and just say "hey guys I can reveal the role of a player and my name is Obama".

All roles have been created by another player. This means that if someone posts their rolecard, which is fake, can easily be brought to attention by the player that created it.
We all have the information, only by co-operation can we easily boost our chances of winning.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

All roles have been created by another player. This means that if someone posts their rolecard, which is fake, can easily be brought to attention by the player that created it.
We all have the information, only by co-operation can we easily boost our chances of winning.

You would want to change the name of the rolecard you reveal if you're scum so it doesn't match up with something anyone submitted.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

All roles have been created by another player. This means that if someone posts their rolecard, which is fake, can easily be brought to attention by the player that created it.
We all have the information, only by co-operation can we easily boost our chances of winning.

This doesn't work TWICE because even if everyone DOES reveal this, if scum has a rolecard that another scum submitted, then we have a false confirmation of a role.

This plan isn't gonna work. It won't even get close to working. We cannot solve the game this way.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

You would want to change the name of the rolecard you reveal if you're scum so it doesn't match up with something anyone submitted.

And after we match up confirmed rolecards, those that have lied will be sitting ducks because they have no one to comfirm.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

And after we match up confirmed rolecards, those that have lied will be sitting ducks because they have no one to comfirm.

There's a setup stipulation against this. We are not allowed to discuss the role we submitted.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

This doesn't work TWICE because even if everyone DOES reveal this, if scum has a rolecard that another scum submitted, then we have a false confirmation of a role.

This plan isn't gonna work. It won't even get close to working. We cannot solve the game this way.

Whalah, now we have 2 scum with 1 stone. Because if all rolecards get mass revealed, it wont include the fake ones created by the scum

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Even in the theoretical world where we could do that the plan still falls flat if a scum rolecard submission is given to another scum player.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Whalah, now we have 2 scum with 1 stone. Because if all rolecards get mass revealed, it wont include the fake ones created by the scum

Did you just say "voilà" as "whalah"?

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

There's a setup stipulation against this. We are not allowed to discuss the role we submitted.

Cool, discussing weather some has told a lie or not is not discussing a role.
Confirming there is missing information is not discussing a role.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Cool, discussing weather some has told a lie or not is not discussing a role.
Confirming there is missing information is not discussing a role.

MartinGG99 naz

Do you agree or disagree with this interpretation?

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Even in the theoretical world where we could do that the plan still falls flat if a scum rolecard submission is given to another scum player.

So, they still have to tell the truth, which is good for town. Or they tell a lie and get caught in the mass rolecard reveal.

[S-FM TBD]

Ya can't discuss the role you submitted in any chat. Are you all blind? Did you not read the post from the host??

[S-FM Dont Ask]

So, they still have to tell the truth, which is good for town. Or they tell a lie and get caught in the mass rolecard reveal.

They wouldn't have to tell the truth. They lie with the edited rolecard and the second scum confirms the edited rolecard is legit. Town gets false mechanical info which is extremely detrimental.

What happens when the KPN doesn't line up with the rolecards revealed? We would know one rolecard is wrong. Which rolecard? No fucking clue. Back to square 2. The next day would become "well which rolecard has space to a KPN" instead of "well which player is scum".

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Ya can't discuss the role you submitted in any chat. Are you all blind? Did you not read the post from the host??

That is literally part of my argument for why this plan is impossible. I mentioned that above. Are YOU blind?

[S-FM TBD]

reminder: posting the role card YOU SUMBITTED is against the rule
you are not allowed to discuss the role u submitted in any chat

I know this is an anon game but goddamn ya'll being dumb. How can we call out the fake role cards if we can't discuss?

Don't ask? Don't tell.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Say, I have the role Coke Dealer.

Someone can easily quote me claiming it, say that I seem absolutely trustworthy.



Guess what they just did, they didn't discuss a role, they discussed a player.

[MartinGG99]

And after we match up confirmed rolecards, those that have lied will be sitting ducks because they have no one to comfirm.

There's a setup stipulation against this. We are not allowed to discuss the role we submitted.

Cool, discussing weather some has told a lie or not is not discussing a role.
Confirming there is missing information is not discussing a role.

MartinGG99 naz

Do you agree or disagree with this interpretation?

Confirming that there is missing information, as implied by the word "confirm", gives a level of confidence that would be undeniably TMI and players could presume that its because of their role submission which they cannot directly discuss.

Because without having submitted a role, in the vast majority of cases you cannot know there's missing information unless you are some sort of investigative role that knows all the information on a role-card as a result of an ability.

TL;DR, I would heavily advise against a mass-claim scenario where people the solely suspected each other for "lying" on their role-card, as I would be inclined to see that as rule-breaking.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Cool. I am now done discussing this. Moving on.

[S-FM TBD]

Cool. I am now done discussing this. Moving on.

Why exactly are you voting me? Thanks.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Yo what the fuck are you guys serious

I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT VOTING AT ALL

kcuf lautca eht tahW

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Why exactly are you voting me? Thanks.

I think you're scum.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

I think you're scum.

I keep using the term "I" in these posts. I should be using the term "we".

We will address this in future prompts.

[S-FM TBD]

I think you're scum.

Based on what? Please cite your sources.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

S-FM TBD

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Cool. I am now done discussing this. Moving on.

Still does not stop all lies being revealed during a mass rolecard reveal. This is still very much a discussion.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

S-FM Dont Ask sorry bro, I didn't mean to

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Based on what? Please cite your sources.

The post quoted when we voted you.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Still does not stop all lies being revealed during a mass rolecard reveal. This is still very much a discussion.

We will not be entertaining any more discussion on this angleshooting topic.

Your view on theory for this setup is wrong.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Spain Land what's up bro
Strange plan, fucked trump so
Drain sand, stuck dump though
Stay bland, pump rump, HOE

werd

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Spain Land what's up bro
Strange plan, fucked trump so
Drain sand, stuck dump though
Stay bland, pump rump, HOE

werd

You look like you're holding a slice of bread.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

You look like you're holding a slice of bread.

ok Don't Ask Don't Tell

S-FM Dont Ask fucking scumbag piece of scum

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

unvote actually nevermind, Don't Ask Don't Tell looks towny to me

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Now time to actually read the thread lol

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Anonymous SFM accounts can't view the mention page.

Don't know who we should ping for this. Voss ? Dunno. It's your problem now!

[S-FM Dont Ask]

I am not Jim

[S-FM Dont Ask]

ok Don't Ask Don't Tell

S-FM Dont Ask fucking scumbag piece of scum

ok fine... your "Plasma Cutter" looks like a slice of bread

[S-FM Dont Ask]

we are not Jim

Sorry. Fixed.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

We will not be entertaining any more discussion on this angleshooting topic.

Your view on theory for this setup is wrong.

Congrats, you will be the target of my abilities tonight.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

We will not be entertaining any more discussion on this angleshooting topic.

Your view on theory for this setup is wrong.

ok but look at it like this - you can't tell me what to do

Mass role claim could work tbh

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

The game plan is simple.

We vote out the guy making blatant observations who will never contribute anything.

S-FM TBD

Is it bad to have a meta scumread in an anonymous game?
Bad and absolutely retarded


So you are saying some folks have other chats than what is here...

Why exactly are you voting me? Thanks.
It would be easy to recognize that and point that out if you already knew you had a night chat. Look at the self preservation right out of the gate. This motherfucker scummy as shit.
S-FM TBD

[S-FM TBD]

Meh, whatever.

[S-FM TBD]

Some things don't change.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

ok but look at it like this - you can't tell me what to do

Mass role claim could work tbh

Mass role claim will work. Those that are fighting against it have roles which are most likely to be viewed as scum.

Guess what, I've claimed my role. This now means there is a player in this game who has now a high level of trust in me (And if they are town they will most likely also have a town read on me)
When a mass rolecard reveal is triggered, this will then show everyone that I have not lied.
This also means that when I use my ability, it comfirms my role, which narrows down scum hunting and makes it once again easier.



Lets look at the other side of the arguement.
"oh no herp derp now scum know your role however will we win" (ignores the fact that town win with lynches and not power roles)

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

All those in favour of self desire of self preservation, being un-cooperative with a sprinkle of greed and need to feel special say "i wont say my role herp derp"

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Just so I know what's going on, plurality without majority means there's never a hammer, right?

That favors town.

If the setup is at all balanced scum might either be greater in number than usual or have some real beefy roles. Or both.

[S-FM TBD]

Just so I know what's going on, plurality without majority means there's never a hammer, right?

That favors town.

If the setup is at all balanced scum might either be greater in number than usual or have some real beefy roles. Or both.

Everyone has beefy roles? You say nothing with a lot of filler.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Congrats, you will be the target of my abilities tonight.


Give me your good stuff baby
and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Everyone has beefy roles? You say nothing with a lot of filler.

OMGUS

I'm using what little information we have to try and solve. Nobody had pointed out the voting system favoring town. Are you honestly offended by people doing actual work in day chat?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Congrats, you will be the target of my abilities tonight.

The plan is simple.

Visit us tonight, papa. We’ll get some chili ready for you.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

OMGUS

I'm using what little information we have to try and solve. Nobody had pointed out the voting system favoring town. Are you honestly offended by people doing actual work in day chat?

There seems to be a small group of un-cooperative people so far that seems to think hiding and concealing information is beneficial to the town.

[S-FM TBD]

OMGUS

I'm using what little information we have to try and solve. Nobody had pointed out the voting system favoring town. Are you honestly offended by people doing actual work in day chat?

What you are doing isn't work. It is filler. Keep your vote on me I really don't care, town is lost with people like you anyway.

Filler for free town points! I should start posting filler!

[S-FM TBD]

Being against rule breaking mass claiming mass checking against submitted roles, oh no I'm scum! Fuck ya'll.

[S-FM Spain Land]

OMGUS

I'm using what little information we have to try and solve. Nobody had pointed out the voting system favoring town. Are you honestly offended by people doing actual work in day chat?

This looks like real townie anger lol

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Being against rule breaking mass claiming mass checking against submitted roles, oh no I'm scum! Fuck ya'll.

Why the fuck do you even care if people break the rules? Let the mods handle it and stop bitching, scumbag. Fuck you and your self preservation, too.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

What you are doing isn't work. It is filler. Keep your vote on me I really don't care, town is lost with people like you anyway.

Filler for free town points! I should start posting filler!

You have already been posting filler and constantly trying to stop any potential discussion. Make your mind up, try hards or not trying hard enough.
You certainly can't make up your mind on how you should act so far. You want people to discuss, yet you are complaining when people do? Definitely a lovely scum tell in here.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Town will receive a large influx of information every day as the setup goes on between the disproportionate level of TPR roles to scum and the rolecard flip reveals. It will be way better to solve this game on day 2 or 3.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

What you are doing isn't work. It is filler. Keep your vote on me I really don't care, town is lost with people like you anyway.

Filler for free town points! I should start posting filler!

It wasn't filler, dumb guy. Again, nobody had mentioned how voting favored town. If someone had, then it would be filler. As it stands you're lashing out at someone for trying to further discussion to solve the setup. This has illogical OMGUS written all over it.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Mass role claim will work. Those that are fighting against it have roles which are most likely to be viewed as scum.

Guess what, I've claimed my role. This now means there is a player in this game who has now a high level of trust in me (And if they are town they will most likely also have a town read on me)
When a mass rolecard reveal is triggered, this will then show everyone that I have not lied.
This also means that when I use my ability, it comfirms my role, which narrows down scum hunting and makes it once again easier.



Lets look at the other side of the arguement.
"oh no herp derp now scum know your role however will we win" (ignores the fact that town win with lynches and not power roles)

Just because your role is true and you successfully incited a mass rolecard reveal doesnt make you 100% town alignment-wise
And also

I am not Jim

[S-FM Spain Land]

You have already been posting filler and constantly trying to stop any potential discussion. Make your mind up, try hards or not trying hard enough.
You certainly can't make up your mind on how you should act so far. You want people to discuss, yet you are complaining when people do? Definitely a lovely scum tell in here.
that makes no sense.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Being against rule breaking mass claiming mass checking against submitted roles, oh no I'm scum! Fuck ya'll.

Turns out you can roleclaim, and lies/truth are revealed when the mass rolecard reveal is tiggered (part of the mechanics)
And you can also still discuss the roles you submitted, aslong as you pretend you didn't submit it and create believable reasons to reach a conclusion about the player who has your submitted rolecard.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Town will receive a large influx of information every day as the setup goes on between the disproportionate level of TPR roles to scum and the rolecard flip reveals. It will be way better to solve this game on day 2 or 3.

I could get behind this idea. With at least one less player it would be a little less chaotic and easier to actually solve the setup. Factor in potential nightkills and it will probably be a lot easier to solve day 2 or 3.

[S-FM TBD]

Why the fuck do you even care if people break the rules? Let the mods handle it and stop bitching, scumbag. Fuck you and your self preservation, too.

Nah, fuck ya'll. I feel bad for the hosts.

[S-FM Spain Land]

I’m reading the TBD v Halloween argument as some dumb TvT cockfight. Each desperate to scumread someone. Lol

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

that makes no sense.

TBD gave people crap for trying to hard and then gave someone crap for not trying enough.
Its as if TBD wants to push the view that they want people to start discussion, yet they also do not want people to actually discuss.
Who would want to look like their trying to push progression yet actually be de-railing discussion? (psst answer is scum)(

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I am not Jim

We don't exist. We're nothing but ideas.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

You have already been posting filler and constantly trying to stop any potential discussion. Make your mind up, try hards or not trying hard enough.
You certainly can't make up your mind on how you should act so far. You want people to discuss, yet you are complaining when people do? Definitely a lovely scum tell in here.

All discussion that you have generated has been around angleshooting mass claim garbage that’s against the rules of the game.

We don’t understand your attitude here. Nothing you’ve done so far is alignment indicative and it’s actively anti discussion. You have 47 posts but we can’t get literally anything out of them.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I could get behind this idea. With at least one less player it would be a little less chaotic and easier to actually solve the setup. Factor in potential nightkills and it will probably be a lot easier to solve day 2 or 3.

Only if roles where revealed, so that a roleblocker could block anyone they suspect is lying or a killing role that was revealed.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I’m reading the TBD v Halloween argument as some dumb TvT cockfight. Each desperate to scumread someone. Lol

Not desperate at all, just calling it like I see it. The desperation is coming from TBD and his OMGUS.

Don't overstate shit.

Scumbag.

[S-FM TBD]

Anyone scum reading me on less than 10 posts is not very bright, enjoy my flip when you vote me. Glad to be out of the game soon enough.

Its why scum usually wins on this site.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Nah, fuck ya'll. I feel bad for the hosts.

You should. This is a nightmare to manage.

Sincerely, the hosts.

[S-FM Spain Land]

TBD gave people crap for trying to hard and then gave someone crap for not trying enough.
Its as if TBD wants to push the view that they want people to start discussion, yet they also do not want people to actually discuss.
Who would want to look like their trying to push progression yet actually be de-railing discussion? (psst answer is scum)(
no, TBD wanted to discuss the setup and got shut down and the started OMGUSing the person who shot him down.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Anyone scum reading me on less than 10 posts is not very bright, enjoy my flip when you vote me. Glad to be out of the game soon enough.

Its why scum usually wins on this site.

Oh man, feeling that pressure already, with only 2 votes on you?

Either you're a nervous person in general or you have some inherent view of personal importance within the context of the game

This is the classic TOWN IS RETARDED defense.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

no, TBD wanted to discuss the setup and got shut down and the started OMGUSing the person who shot him down.

We have our vote on TBD because of the belief that TBD would be an under the radar wolf if there was no vote on him.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

All discussion that you have generated has been around angleshooting mass claim garbage that’s against the rules of the game.

We don’t understand your attitude here. Nothing you’ve done so far is alignment indicative and it’s actively anti discussion. You have 47 posts but we can’t get literally anything out of them.

Congratulations on pushing the view that all my posts are useless. Are you intentionally invalidating other previous comments I have made in hope that you can create a mislynch train onto me?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Oh man, feeling that pressure already, with only 2 votes on you?

Either you're a nervous person in general or you have some inherent view of personal importance within the context of the game

This is the classic TOWN IS RETARDED defense.

It’s particularly interesting because the entire town has not checked in yet.

[S-FM Spain Land]

Not desperate at all, just calling it like I see it. The desperation is coming from TBD and his OMGUS.

Don't overstate shit.

Scumbag.

yeah lol for the most part, but youre tunneling needlessly just because someone is omgusing you for dumb reasons. i think youre town so im going to ask you cut that out, it wont help anyone.

[S-FM TBD]

Oh man, feeling that pressure already, with only 2 votes on you?

Either you're a nervous person in general or you have some inherent view of personal importance within the context of the game

This is the classic TOWN IS RETARDED defense.

I don't really care.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Congratulations on pushing the view that all my posts are useless. Are you intentionally invalidating other previous comments I have made in hope that you can create a mislynch train onto me?

We are not even voting you. You’re probably town because you seem to genuinely believe that your awful strategy is the correct way to proceed.

Feel free to visit us tonight.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I love you S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween and I hope you will help me keep sane here.

[S-FM TBD]

I have no view of personal importance. Just trying to enjoy the game, but as we've seen that is nearly impossible on SC2Mafia.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

TBD sounds very arrogant and his past interactions make me nullread him

We dont really have anything on him besides OMGUSing for the sake of it

sincerely
Not Jim

and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

yeah lol for the most part, but youre tunneling needlessly just because someone is omgusing you for dumb reasons. i think youre town so im going to ask you cut that out, it wont help anyone.

What makes you so sure TBD is town?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

TBD sounds very arrogant and his past interactions make me nullread him

We dont really have anything on him besides OMGUSing for the sake of it

sincerely
Not Jim

and also

I am not Jim
Bruh

[S-FM Spain Land]

I think the person who said that we shouldnt care about angleshooting is scum. Scum always try to appeae very pro-townie and it would be very borderline of town to say they didnt care about town winning through angleshooting. Methinks ye dost protest too much

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

Not gonna read 4 pages of day 1 cringe, just posting so everyone can see my sick ass avatar.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I have no view of personal importance. Just trying to enjoy the game, but as we've seen that is nearly impossible on SC2Mafia.

So you enjoy the game by never being pressured?

Why even play, then? Just post to the forum and join in observer chat.

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

yo okay someone censored my FUCKING avatar, this is the true assault on free speech. For completion I'm going to post the original avatar:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Oh man, feeling that pressure already, with only 2 votes on you?

Either you're a nervous person in general or you have some inherent view of personal importance within the context of the game

This is the classic TOWN IS RETARDED defense.
You sound like a smart person <3
I believe TBD is very egoistic so I think the red colored theory applies here

and also
I am not Jim

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I love you S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween and I hope you will help me keep sane here.

I love you too!

Full disclosure - I'm not good at being sane.

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

Is anyone else here a 10 foot tall Chad IRL, like I am?

[S-FM TBD]

So you enjoy the game by never being pressured?

Why even play, then? Just post to the forum and join in observer chat.

Okay professor.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

I think the person who said that we shouldnt care about angleshooting is scum. Scum always try to appeae very pro-townie and it would be very borderline of town to say they didnt care about town winning through angleshooting. Methinks ye dost protest too much

As the person who said this... what?

We need you to reword this. This doesn’t make sense.

[S-FM Spain Land]

TBD is reacting very aggressively and scumreading thin air. There would be no reason for scum to be doing this so early into the game. As scum I would just echo the thread and move on, not start pointless OMGUS arguments over ‘filler’. It literally looks like a townie trying very hard to scumhunt... lol

[S-FM Dont Ask]

yo okay someone censored my FUCKING avatar, this is the true assault on free speech. For completion I'm going to post the original avatar:



delet tis

I feel disgusted

and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM Dont Ask]

yo okay someone censored my FUCKING avatar, this is the true assault on free speech. For completion I'm going to post the original avatar:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png
Your name should have been S-FM Abstinence

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

yo okay someone censored my FUCKING avatar, this is the true assault on free speech. For completion I'm going to post the original avatar:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png

I can't believe that even the testicle flying off was censored, what the frick?

[S-FM Spain Land]

As the person who said this... what?

We need you to reword this. This doesn’t make sense.
It does make sense. You said it to seem townie, scum. Town do not say anything like that THAT cringe.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png

..

[S-FM Dont Ask]

TBD is reacting very aggressively and scumreading thin air. There would be no reason for scum to be doing this so early into the game. As scum I would just echo the thread and move on, not start pointless OMGUS arguments over ‘filler’. It literally looks like a townie trying very hard to scumhunt... lol

If you were to place a vote right now where would you place it.

[S-FM Spain Land]

also there is something else someone said that... literally looks like scum ‘telling the town’ they may be inactive. scum do this 200% of the time.

[S-FM Spain Land]

If you were to place a vote right now where would you place it.

on you or the person I just described above :P

[S-FM Dont Ask]

It does make sense. You said it to seem townie, scum. Town do not say anything like that THAT cringe.

So do we understand your point correctly: we are scum because scum would try to appear towny and our comment didn’t look towny?

We are so confused.

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

Is anyone else here a 10 foot tall Chad IRL, like I am?

Please answer this question.

[S-FM Spain Land]

yo okay someone censored my FUCKING avatar, this is the true assault on free speech. For completion I'm going to post the original avatar:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png
i have no idea who this is but i love you
are you town?

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

TBD is reacting very aggressively and scumreading thin air. There would be no reason for scum to be doing this so early into the game. As scum I would just echo the thread and move on, not start pointless OMGUS arguments over ‘filler’. It literally looks like a townie trying very hard to scumhunt... lol

I disagree. Looking at the context of the next quote:


Some things don't change.
They're out of practice because they haven't played in a while. This is exactly how an out of practice scum would react.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

So do we understand your point correctly: we are scum because scum would try to appear towny and our comment didn’t look towny?

We are so confused.

I seriously have no fucking idea what you were trying to say here.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

also there is something else someone said that... literally looks like scum ‘telling the town’ they may be inactive. scum do this 200% of the time.

Like my avatar?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Please answer this question.

Together we are taller than that.

[S-FM Spain Land]

So do we understand your point correctly: we are scum because scum would try to appear towny and our comment didn’t look towny?

We are so confused.scum would want to seem townie. and no scum would ever say shit like ‘oh oh youre ruining the game for the scum’ except maybe if they were really close to winning. now town could just find ways of angleshooting without saying that. but you went to the extra mile of saying you do not care about angleshooting. lol

[S-FM Dont Ask]

scum would want to seem townie. and no scum would ever say shit like ‘oh oh youre ruining the game for the scum’ except maybe if they were really close to winning. now town could just find ways of angleshooting without saying that. but you went to the extra mile of saying you do not care about angleshooting. lol

I must not have been the person you were talking about because I didn’t do that.

Can you go back and find the post you’re referencing

[S-FM Dont Ask]

I have a gut feeling the guy inside the Intermediate Engineer RIG with the 211-V Plasma Cutter is scum because he managed to indirectly and unintentionally pocket me into thinking he is "town"

and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I have a gut feeling the guy inside the Intermediate Engineer RIG with the 211-V Plasma Cutter is scum because he managed to indirectly and unintentionally pocket me into thinking he is "town"

and also

I am not Jim

If I was scum wouldn't I be intentionally pocketing you?

Or are you saying that you're operating under the assumption that you should be buddies with other scum?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

If I was scum wouldn't I be intentionally pocketing you?

Or are you saying that you're operating under the assumption that you should be buddies with other scum?

I am under the assumption you were being the voice of reason during that TBD situation which makes you look like town which gives me bad vibes because my guts are paranoid when it comes to townreading people

and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM Sauron]

this setup penalizes town claims.. scum have no incentive to claim their real role. they would lie.. pushing for mass claim is scummy in my view..

This is false.
If they don’t claim their real role then they just become caught scum to someone.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I am under the assumption you were being the voice of reason during that TBD situation which makes you look like town which gives me bad vibes because my guts are paranoid when it comes to townreading people

and also

I am not Jim

Fair enough.

I'm sorry you have to type that you're not Jim in your posts. That's unimaginative and boring and annoying.

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

Together we are taller than that.

Wow homie, how tall are you IRL? I'm 9 feet tall, 300 lbs, 5% bf.

[S-FM Sauron]

I know this is an anon game but goddamn ya'll being dumb. How can we call out the fake role cards if we can't discuss?

Don't ask? Don't tell.

Maybe can’t call it out.
But one person will always know who the scum is.

[S-FM Sauron]

Yo what the fuck are you guys serious

I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT VOTING AT ALL

kcuf lautca eht tahW

Interesting.

[S-FM TBD]

I am under the assumption you were being the voice of reason during that TBD situation which makes you look like town which gives me bad vibes because my guts are paranoid when it comes to townreading people

and also

I am not Jim

Who is Jim?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Who is Jim?

not us

[S-FM TBD]

not us

Can you say anything else about JIm?

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Can you say anything else about JIm?

thats all I can say

and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM TBD]

thats all I can say

and also

I am not Jim

Boring.

[S-FM Dont Ask]

Boring.

Be glad you arent me

and also

I am not Jim

[S-FM Sauron]

Be glad you arent me

and also

I am not Jim

But if you are not Jim, then who are you?

[S-FM Sauron]

S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
Prob Scum.

[S-FM Sauron]

If majority of peeps don’t want this exe, don’t vote this.
If majority does, all vote this.
Big Secret Reason.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

If majority of peeps don’t want this exe, don’t vote this.
If majority does, all vote this.
Big Secret Reason.
what

S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween
Prob Scum.

why

I am the superior you. You are a primitive version of my avatar. You do not explain your points. Survival of the fittest eye it shall be. Die. Sauron

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732281454561853502/789024171744165921/11111111.PNG

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

True chaos has no reason.


Because, all will be power roles. There will most likely be a majority team, therefore it is logical for all those to release all their information then we can push for the majority win condition. Hiding information is useless.

Everyone can make everything up. There's no way to verify what roles others truly have. We could have 10 reality benders for all we know.

And true chaos only helps scum.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

According to your name.
A land doesn’t have balls either.


INFORMATION FOR TOWN GOOD.
HIDING INFO BAD.
RAIN IS WET.

UNCONFIRMABLE AND NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE INFORMATION BAD.
BULLSHIT CLAIMS GIVE SCUMS HIDING PLACES.
SNOW IS WET TOO.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Well it depends.
Depends on the role you have.
Sometimes it can help and sometimes it could hurt.
Just know the role you have a play it the best possible way.

I have changed my mind. You are a worthy eye. My blessings upon you.

S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
Threatening to mute people (clearly anti-town, since communication is key), asking for a mass claim.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

How does one know what the scum really want?
S-FM Spain Land
Saying, with certainly to know what the scum want.

Congratulations on being the first slot to be voted with a valid and explained reason to match.


Aka (For those who can't read between the lines, Spain knows what scum wants because they are scum)

You don't need to be scum to know scum want to know who is what to identify threats. That's Mafia's A-B-C. Scumpainter detected.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

I remind you, this is not your regular game with a buttload of citizens with a (un-needed) dependency on a cop to solve the game.

This is a Bastard, crazy ass shit game with a whole loada stupid roles leaving the Town with absolutely no idea of how to even attempt to play.

This mean, as much information as possible needs to be poured into the day, which includes rolecards. So that we can figure out how to win and what we are up against.



Hopefully, you can make some attempt to consider the actual setup?
Have you heard of something called lying? It means "not telling the truth". That's exactly what scum would do if they were claiming, and that even may be what you did on page 1.

this setup penalizes town claims.. scum have no incentive to claim their real role. they would lie.. pushing for mass claim is scummy in my view..

+1

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Following the host saying that we shouldn't massclaim...

Cool. I am now done discussing this. Moving on.

I like this. I had already decided to stop addressing the obviously flawed massclaim proposal, so I'll take that as a delayed mindmeld + as a pro-town move (the game was stuck there).

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

I am (corrected to we are ) not Jim


Sorry. Fixed.

Who are you, then? Lenin?

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Bad and absolutely retarded



It would be easy to recognize that and point that out if you already knew you had a night chat. Look at the self preservation right out of the gate. This motherfucker scummy as shit.
S-FM TBD

TBD: "Why are you voting me?"
Halloween: "LOOK AT THE SELF-PRESERVATION RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, SCUMMY"

...just no.

And yes, metareads are dumb to have in an anonymous game (and quite rulebreaking too)

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

What you are doing isn't work. It is filler. Keep your vote on me I really don't care, town is lost with people like you anyway.

Filler for free town points! I should start posting filler!

I don't think Halloween is posting filler. It's either scum scumpainting or town being bad. He's actually trying to take you down here, it's just not to "look like he's doing something".

I like you

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Why the fuck do you even care if people break the rules? Let the mods handle it and stop bitching, scumbag. Fuck you and your self preservation, too.
scumreading people for respecting the rules and literally what the host just said lol are you kidding?

You have already been posting filler and constantly trying to stop any potential discussion. Make your mind up, try hards or not trying hard enough.
You certainly can't make up your mind on how you should act so far. You want people to discuss, yet you are complaining when people do? Definitely a lovely scum tell in here.

Look at the scum jumping on the "filler" claim. :rolleyes:

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Town will receive a large influx of information every day as the setup goes on between the disproportionate level of TPR roles to scum and the rolecard flip reveals. It will be way better to solve this game on day 2 or 3.

Exactly. Plus, ROLECARDS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT, AND PLAYERS CAN L I E

So let's wait until we have actual results that will restrain scum in their bullshit.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Don't Ask is saying mechanically correct stuff, but somehow isn't really towny. It looks like he's doing the minimum to look good. That's just gut, though.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Anyone scum reading me on less than 10 posts is not very bright, enjoy my flip when you vote me. Glad to be out of the game soon enough.

Its why scum usually wins on this site.

please kindly fuck off with your "on this site blah blah blah" and talk with those who are trying to be rational instead :)
Why do you think you're getting lynched? It's not like there's a damning case on you (or any case that makes any sense at all...), as you highlighted yourself.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

yeah lol for the most part, but youre tunneling needlessly just because someone is omgusing you for dumb reasons. i think youre town so im going to ask you cut that out, it wont help anyone.

I think this is perfectly on point: Halloween seems to be genuinely tunnelling TBD, which is towny, but not pro-town. + some townpoints for good insight

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

TBD sounds very arrogant and his past interactions make me nullread him

We dont really have anything on him besides OMGUSing for the sake of it

sincerely
Not Jim

and also

I am not Jim
No?

I think the person who said that we shouldnt care about angleshooting is scum. Scum always try to appeae very pro-townie and it would be very borderline of town to say they didnt care about town winning through angleshooting. Methinks ye dost protest too much

I just think that person is dumb and that it shouldnt be read into lol.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

You guys are boring. I'm out.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Exactly. Plus, ROLECARDS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT, AND PLAYERS CAN L I E

So let's wait until we have actual results that will restrain scum in their bullshit.


After 50% of the game's players have died, the dead players may vote to decide to reveal all of the rolecards. However, if they choose to do so, I'll create some additional fake rolecards of my own to put in there.

Only if there was a way for lies to be discovered. Such sadness. The idea is ruined.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

scumreading people for respecting the rules and literally what the host just said lol are you kidding?


Look at the scum jumping on the "filler" claim. :rolleyes:

I was attacking the person making the filler claim for their hypocritical attack. Did you not understand who I was talking about?

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I have changed my mind. You are a worthy eye. My blessings upon you.

S-FM FirstDimensionalLife
Threatening to mute people (clearly anti-town, since communication is key), asking for a mass claim.

I'm going to mute you for daring to stand up against my tyrannical methods.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

You don't need to be scum to know scum want to know who is what to identify threats. That's Mafia's A-B-C. Scumpainter detected.

If I was scum. Last thing I would want to do is reveal my role, because my role may look so devilishly evil it would be very unlikely it is town.
So I could lie, but if others reveal their true role, it greatly narrows down after feedback/death flips. Which makes me a greater target during the day and a mass reveal role claim would certainly out me.

Or. If everyone remains hidden, I could get away with my role and bask in the chaos of wild night feedback and chaotic next day, with a whole bucket of "but there could be a role that does "X" to protect my skin. Or "well my role is X and does y so it can't be me"

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

To be fair I could actually be scum. I just assumed because of the green rolecard and lack of night chat paired with a weak role ment I am town.

Lol, you all could have non-green rolecards and I might just be really fucked.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

https://i.ibb.co/KDP4XPX/SDSDSD.png (https://ibb.co/vhFyHFH)

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Hey Spain what color is your rolecard?

[S-FM Spain Land]

Hey Spain what color is your rolecard?

My rolecard has no color.

[S-FM Spain Land]

Only the faction I am has a colour (green).
Fun fact: i do not have a wincon, so i have no idea what to do

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Only the faction I am has a colour (green).
Fun fact: i do not have a wincon, so i have no idea what to do

As in, the rolecard name? Is that the faction name? Like Coke Dealer

How many words is the name of your rolecard?

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Only the faction I am has a colour (green).
Fun fact: i do not have a wincon, so i have no idea what to do

Go with the Basic eliminate all other faction colours.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Good news I can openly discuss S-FM Sauron rolecard.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

S-FM Heavy Handed about to make an impressive entrance.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Good news I can openly discuss S-FM Sauron rolecard.

Or can I really only openly discuss what I've deduced that is detectable.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

S-FM Heavy Handed left

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

S-FM Heavy Handed about to make an impressive entrance.


S-FM Heavy Handed left

Homie can you explain what the fuck you're talking about?

Is there a single person in this thread that has the BALLS to post how tall they are in real life? As you can tell, I certainly don't (because I have crushed my greasy cock and balls with a rock):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Homie can you explain what the fuck you're talking about?

Is there a single person in this thread that has the BALLS to post how tall they are in real life? As you can tell, I certainly don't (because I have crushed my greasy cock and balls with a rock):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720676809368404029/792167081490776064/unknown.png

Oh I forgot you already posted. You didn't make a good impression.

[S-FM Heavy Handed]

Oh I forgot you already posted. You didn't make a good impression.

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[S-FM Spain Land]

Tbh TBD is being delusional and flip flopping quite violently, being scumread by 2 players. Lol
Would not be sad to see them go. Really if your defense against being scumread is ‘you are not very bright’, you need to go lol.

Sauron is gay

Dont Ask is a nullread. I think they’re trying to survive at all odds (maybe they’re a neutral) and watching the world burn

Interesting how S-FM Egypt is defending TBD and scumpainting Halloween. It feels like they are being too logical and that they’re trying to pocket multiple people, including myself. TBD and Egypt are a scumteam.
S-FM Acidic

[S-FM Spain Land]

-_-
S-FM Acidic Egypt

[S-FM Spain Land]

Heavy Handed is shitposting in a way that makes it clear they do not give a shit if anyone thinks they’re town. 90% of the time that comes from town.

[S-FM Spain Land]

Good news I can openly discuss S-FM Sauron rolecard.

Why?

[S-FM Spain Land]

BTW S-FM Sauron will have to be lynched at some point during the game.

[S-FM Spain Land]

BTW S-FM Sauron will have to be lynched at some point during the game.
There is no way an MVP role would be town.

[S-FM Spain Land]

Alternatively TBD is town and being whiteknighted by Acidic Egypt.

[S-FM Spain Land]

If TBD is town, the train on him looks really bad.