Should Panchira (Panty Shots) be considered porn?

[Apocist]

Panchira, Panty Shots, Flipped Skirts, and Fan Service are an illustration/media representation well used in much old and new mainstream anime, manga, and art.

Some more linked details on what panchira is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchira and https://animanga.fandom.com/wiki/Panchira.

Both a large number of well-known family friendly and more adult anime make use of this tact. While a very small and exhaustible list of shows with such content, some series can be found here: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/panty-shots. (some series may obviously be more ecchi in nature)

With other's opinions on the matter, do you think this style of media should be considered pornographic?

[oops_ur_dead]

yes

[bakermir]

no

[Bruno]

theres an entire pornographic subcategory 'upskirts'

tired of you arguing these semantics

[Bruno]

literal cognitive dissonance


https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/366165788136177677/791394834220449833/unknown.png?width=503&height=478

[oops_ur_dead]

https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/tags/panty-shots

Yeah the fact that there's an entire category for people who specifically want to find shows with panty shots really does sell the point that it's not erotic or pornographic. Everyone knows that panty shots are admirable works of art and add immense value to the plot of an anime cartoon.

[Apocist]

Also please note that anime's such as famous Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball series, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and No Game No Life would need to be considered for containing this item.


theres an entire pornographic subcategory 'upskirts'

tired of you arguing these semantics

Yes, yes. There's a pornographic subcategory probably for anything conceivable. Ankles, Armpits, Feet, Smelling, ASMR, Types of clothing, ect.

So Apo doesn't believe there is much go on that line of thought.

[Bruno]

Also please note that anime's such as famous Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball series, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and No Game No Life would need to be considered for containing this item.



Yes, yes. There's a pornographic subcategory probably for anything conceivable. Ankles, Armpits, Feet, Smelling, ASMR, Types of clothing, ect.

So Apo doesn't believe there is much go on that line of thought.

u realize everything u listed is inherently fetishist, which is sexual derivative right?

[SuperJack]

I love my brick

[OzyWho]

It's only pornographic if you make it be.

The actual line is drawn between what is ok for children to see and what isn't.

In Western movies and shows - there's ratings that showcase suitability for certain audiences based on content.

But the discussion here is about Anime. It doesn't have such ratings (to my knowledge).
Honestly, I think it'd be best if we didn't try to reinvent the wheel and just go by the guidelines by which the western shows get their ratings.

The official rating rules (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.filmratings.com/downloads/rating_rules.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiG4rqzhuXtAhXilosKHd0SDDwQFjAKegQIIhAB&usg=AOvVaw1J_-JsBJTuqIEDp3wa63i6&cshid=1608759085144) have no mention of underwear. But I'd guess it PG.

[Bruno]

It's only pornographic if you make it be.

The actual line is drawn between what is ok for children to see and what isn't.

In Western movies and shows - there's ratings that showcase suitability for certain audiences based on content.

But the discussion here is about Anime. It doesn't have such ratings (to my knowledge).
Honestly, I think it'd be best if we didn't try to reinvent the wheel and just go by the guidelines by which the western shows get their ratings.

The official rating rules (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.filmratings.com/downloads/rating_rules.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiG4rqzhuXtAhXilosKHd0SDDwQFjAKegQIIhAB&usg=AOvVaw1J_-JsBJTuqIEDp3wa63i6&cshid=1608759085144) have no mention of underwear. But I'd guess it PG.

lmk the last childrens show youve seen on nickolodeon or some shit where the 12 year old protaganist has a scene where its filmed looking up her skirt at her panties.


yall are pedophiles

[rumox]

I can see "upskirt" shots not being predominantly sexual and used in a manner to show the character getting embarrassed similar to how someone gets dacked (pants pulled down in public). It's an incredibly fine line though and even the most purest intentions of making it only an embarrassing moment, not a sexual one, will probably always be questioned due to the nature of how upskirt shots happen.

I feel as though the context that triggered this discussion is important. The character clearly has had a massive dick/fat pussy bulge drawn so from my pov there is no question what is going on there... it was created for sexual purposes.

[Bruno]

I can see "upskirt" shots not being predominantly sexual and used in a manner to show the character getting embarrassed similar to how someone gets dacked (pants pulled down in public). It's an incredibly fine line though and even the most purest intentions of making it only an embarrassing moment, not a sexual one, will probably always be questioned due to the nature of how upskirt shots happen.

I feel as though the context that triggered this discussion is important. The character clearly has had a massive dick/fat pussy bulge drawn so from my pov there is no question what is going on there... it was created for sexual purposes.

exactly what ive said from the get go. the sexualization

[Bruno]

its a humanoid. a sexualized humanoid. a sexualized humanoid made to look young, ambiguously so.

its not a warship

its not an 800 yr old dragon

its a drawing of a little girl. a sexualized little girl. and thats why i think people like apocist are sick on a level that requires therapy. im being genuine - not malicious or insulting. i genuinely believe people into this shit require therapy.

[OzyWho]

its a humanoid. a sexualized humanoid. a sexualized humanoid made to look young, ambiguously so.

its not a warship

its not an 800 yr old dragon

its a drawing of a little girl. a sexualized little girl. and thats why i think people like apocist are sick on a level that requires therapy. im being genuine - not malicious or insulting. i genuinely believe people into this shit require therapy.

I wanted to make a post stating that it's not that simple due to: 1) cultural differences - this is a Japanese show and they have vastly different opinions on these subjects ; 2) claim that, from evolution viewpoint, "post puberty" equals "adult".

But I didn't watch that pic yet.

Lol, that girl is literally like between 4-7 years old. This topic is weird man. Idk how can you guys look at that pic and think "sexual".

But from what rumox said, I feel like I'm looking at the wrong pic now.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/enanimanga/images/9/97/Mami12.jpg
I'm not seeing the


massive dick/fat pussy bulge drawn so from my pov
that you guys see.

Honestly, if you weirdos would had never said so - I'd never in a million years thought that this img could be sexual.

[Bruno]

I wanted to make a post stating that it's not that simple due to: 1) cultural differences - this is a Japanese show and they have vastly different opinions on these subjects ; 2) claim that, from evolution viewpoint, "post puberty" equals "adult".

But I didn't watch that pic yet.

Lol, that girl is literally like between 4-7 years old. This topic is weird man. Idk how can you guys look at that pic and think "sexual".

But from what rumox said, I feel like I'm looking at the wrong pic now.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/enanimanga/images/9/97/Mami12.jpg
I'm not seeing the

that you guys see.

Honestly, if you weirdos would had never said so - I'd never in a million years thought that this img could be sexual.

thats not the particular image being discussed

[DJarJar]

Honestly I really didn’t need to ever learn the term panchira and I hate that I now do

[Bruno]

Honestly I really didn’t need to ever learn the term panchira and I hate that I now do

i think thats how normal people react to this shit. truly mindblowing to see the mental gymnastics behind the justification

[Bruno]

this thread seems less about actual discussion and more about somebody trying to find validation from others that theyre not batshit insane

[Oberon]

so this thread is someone arguing that panty shots aren’t sexual and someone else telling them they’re a pedophile?
we’ve dun done it boys we’ve gone full circle

[Oberon]

I think a pedophile would be attracted to a kid who looks like a kid, not a kid who looks like an adult. Or an adult who looks like a kid. Liking babyface who has big tits/ass doesnt make you a pedophile

[oops_ur_dead]

Ah yes, the "your honour I thought she was 20 how could I have known she was actually 15" defence.

The perfect counterpart to "this drawing of a baby being railed by a giant dick isn't actually pedophilic because the baby is actually the personification of the Roman Empire thus it's technically 1000 years old".

[Oberon]

Statutory rape isn’t necessarily pedophilia. The reason its not well seen is because of the power dynamics that exist when someone of age bangs a minor.

[OzyWho]

The perfect counterpart to "this drawing of a baby being railed by a giant dick isn't actually pedophilic because the baby is actually the personification of the Roman Empire thus it's technically 1000 years old".
I would want to know the source that inspired this not at all confusing example. :weird:

I think we can all appreciate how constructive and important this whole discussion is as it's very relatable to all of us, but if someone could just close this thread yeah that'd be great I wouldn't mind personally.

[oops_ur_dead]

Statutory rape is pedophilia. Someone knowingly hitting on a minor regardless of how "adult" they look is pedo as FUCK. The normal human response to that is absolute disgust, if you have any other reaction to it then you genuinely need therapy.

[OzyWho]

Statutory rape is pedophilia. Someone knowingly hitting on a minor regardless of how "adult" they look is pedo as FUCK. The normal human response to that is absolute disgust, if you have any other reaction to it then you genuinely need therapy.

Just curious where you personally draw the line between "it's disgusting" and "it's normal".

Because your post gave the impression that for you, 17 years and 360 days old = disgusting, while 18 years old = nothing of the sort.

Me personally, even 22 year olds look more like girls than woman.

Age of consent is nothing biological, just lawful. Technically muscles and inner organs don't stop growing till 22, not 18.

If the animal kingdom is of indication, then "post puberty" equals "adult" as far as nature and evolution is concerned.
You though, for you it's just 1 day below the age of consent equals disgusting. That sounds disingenuous if that's where you "draw the line".
Maybe it's also different depending on the country? In one country it's 1 day below 18 that's disgusting while in another it's one day below 21? Sounds reasonable.

[oops_ur_dead]

Just curious where you personally draw the line between "it's disgusting" and "it's normal".

Because your post gave the impression that for you, 17 years and 360 days old = disgusting, while 18 years old = nothing of the sort.

Me personally, even 22 year olds look more like girls than woman.

Age of consent is nothing biological, just lawful. Technically muscles and inner organs don't stop growing till 22, not 18.

If the animal kingdom is of indication, then "post puberty" equals "adult" as far as nature and evolution is concerned.
You though, for you it's just 1 day below the age of consent equals disgusting. That sounds disingenuous if that's where you "draw the line".
Maybe it's also different depending on the country? In one country it's 1 day below 18 that's disgusting while in another it's one day below 21? Sounds reasonable.

Depends on the age of both parties. Really, it's a matter of "I know it when I see it". A 17 year old with a 18 or 19 year old? Not that bad. A 16 year old with a 25 year old? Pretty fucking disgusting (and that's considering that age of consent is 16 where I'm from, so it isn't even a matter of legality).

My last statement was definitely too far reaching. But the idea that the degree to which someone is a pedo is dependant on the physical appearance of the victim is straight up pedo apologism.

[Oberon]

When I was in high school a girl who was 16 at the time cheated on her boyfriend with someone who was 24

[Oberon]

Uhhh my guy pedophiles are sexually attracted to physical characteristics much like most humans
Da fuq u on about

[oops_ur_dead]

Uhhh my guy pedophiles are sexually attracted to physical characteristics much like most humans
Da fuq u on about

Pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN. If you remain physically attracted to a child when you know they are a child, regardless of what they look like, you are a pedophile (taking age gap into consideration).

I'm willing to bet that 24 year old boyfriend of your classmate had no friends his own age. If I knew someone at 24 who was dating a 16 year old I would legitimately knock their fucking teeth out.

This isn't hard to understand. It is not a normal human response to be even strictly physically attracted to a child no matter how big their tits or ass are. If anyone has those tendencies, they need to go to a psych.

[Oberon]

I don’t necessarily agree. When I was 18 I went to a friend’s coming of age party and there was this really attractive, tall, blonde girl there. I was convinced she was 20+ but turns out she’s actually 16 (found out a bit later, accidentally). If its just sex I can easily see someone who’s 24 going for that girl. Now if we’re talking abouy an actual relationship I do agree thats a little odd to say the least. There is definitely a power dynamic in play in such a relationship and its probably hard not to become abusive.

[OzyWho]

When I was in high school a girl who was 16 at the time cheated on her boyfriend with someone who was 24

My classmate girls > your classmate girls.
We had one who got pregnant at 15 and the child's father was 25. :laugh:
Then another who got pregnant at 18 and the child's father was 16 who's family came to the hospital on the day of the birth, after the birth, to call her a whore. When previously doing stuff like borrowing money that they never gave back.
It sucks to be some women. :smurf:
Also, I know a guy who pays child support to 11 different mother's. :laugh:

[Oberon]

Lmao the dad’s family called her a whore? What about the dad?
Some people are just dumb lol

[Oberon]

15-25 is something though kek

[Apocist]

This totally derailed from if panty peek is porn and drowned quickly into pedophilia...

[Gyrlander]

No.

[Stealthbomber16]

lmk the last childrens show youve seen on nickolodeon or some shit where the 12 year old protaganist has a scene where its filmed looking up her skirt at her panties.


yall are pedophiles
Cuties

[Stealthbomber16]

Aaaanyway the answer is yes. People don't exactly look at panty shots like they're art. Bri'ish people don't look at what you posted and go "hmm yes delightful let me get more tea and crumpets".

[DJarJar]

So since I had to learn about “panchira” in this thread I’ll link what I was unlucky to learn about last year:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

While I think the first two are icky, pedo is a whole nuther level because there isn’t a time you’re supposed to be attracted to people that young.

How did I learn this shit? Cuz someone who I called a pedo was super offended cuz he’s just into teens not children...

[rumox]

I don’t necessarily agree. When I was 18 I went to a friend’s coming of age party and there was this really attractive, tall, blonde girl there. I was convinced she was 20+ but turns out she’s actually 16 (found out a bit later, accidentally). If its just sex I can easily see someone who’s 24 going for that girl. Now if we’re talking abouy an actual relationship I do agree thats a little odd to say the least. There is definitely a power dynamic in play in such a relationship and its probably hard not to become abusive.

So someone who is 24 fucks a 16 year old is acceptable however if they are looking for a relationship that is where it starts to become a little odd to you?

I don't think words can describe how much of a loser a 24 year old person is to even want to hang around a 16 year old, let alone fuck one. Also being mistaken of someone's age isn't equatable to actually knowing their young age and still wanting to fuck them. I said this last time we were talking about pedophiles and unless you are kinda retarded, your opinion will 100% change regarding this as you get older. You are 20 years old yourself or something like that, you don't have the perspective of being the age or older than the age of someone being the perpetrator.

[Bruno]

can we just delete this thread jesus christ

[Bruno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdphwkZ4mIM&ab_channel=%24uicideboy%24-Topic

[Oberon]

I think its acceptable, yes. Its just sex. Lol

[Bruno]

I think its acceptable, yes. Its just sex. Lol

that's because youre a pedophile

[Unknown1234]

I think its acceptable, yes. Its just sex. Lol

Sometimes there are moments where you shouldn’t say anything. This is one of those times.

[Oberon]

Idk what leg the people claiming its pedophilia or that there has to be something wrong with a 24 yr old to fuck a 16 yr old are standing on, it isnt from like any standpoint abnormal or even illegal. Ephebophilia which is the PREFERENCE (not mere attraction) to mid-late teens (15-19) isnt even classified as a mental disorder and most experts dont see it as a pathology/paraphilia unless it significantly interferes with one’s day to day life. And in many countries 15-16 is the legal age of consent. Lol

[Bruno]

Idk what leg the people claiming its pedophilia or that there has to be something wrong with a 24 yr old to fuck a 16 yr old are standing on, it isnt from like any standpoint abnormal or even illegal. Ephebophilia which is the PREFERENCE (not mere attraction) to mid-late teens (15-19) isnt even classified as a mental disorder and most experts dont see it as a pathology/paraphilia unless it significantly interferes with one’s day to day life. And in many countries 15-16 is the legal age of consent. Lol

please just stop

[oops_ur_dead]

Oh God he unironically started talking about epehepehehpbhepbhphilia

[OzyWho]

This thread has derailed so hard - less than half of posts are on the OG topic, with many attempts of stopping possible discussions dead in their tracks altogether. (though mostly off topic discussions)

I must say I feel a disappointment that the "Series Discussions" subforum failed at it's purpose.
No matter how weird the original topic was, I think it would had been better if we kept this subforums integrity intact by respecting the OP wishes in having a serious discussion about the topic. Or say nothing at all.
Every rule of this subforum got broken here in this thread and that feels like a loss because I really liked the idea of having a place where you can ask for serious discussions.

I think it's better if:
1) if we have nothing to say on the OG topic then we say nothing at all.
2) those who wish to talk pedophilia or whatever - open a separate thread.
3) mods give out infractions, including to me for derailing.

[Bruno]

This thread has derailed so hard - less than half of posts are on the OG topic, with many attempts of stopping possible discussions dead in their tracks altogether. (though mostly off topic discussions)

I must say I feel a disappointment that the "Series Discussions" subforum failed at it's purpose.
No matter how weird the original topic was, I think it would had been better if we kept this subforums integrity intact by respecting the OP wishes in having a serious discussion about the topic. Or say nothing at all.
Every rule of this subforum got broken here in this thread and that feels like a loss because I really liked the idea of having a place where you can ask for serious discussions.

I think it's better if:
1) if we have nothing to say on the OG topic then we say nothing at all.
2) those who wish to talk pedophilia or whatever - open a separate thread.
3) mods give out infractions, including to me for derailing.

will you leave the website latvia is a poor eastern bloc country with nothing of relevance to ever leave its borders

[FrostByte]

This thread has derailed so hard - less than half of posts are on the OG topic, with many attempts of stopping possible discussions dead in their tracks altogether. (though mostly off topic discussions)

I must say I feel a disappointment that the "Series Discussions" subforum failed at it's purpose.
No matter how weird the original topic was, I think it would had been better if we kept this subforums integrity intact by respecting the OP wishes in having a serious discussion about the topic. Or say nothing at all.
Every rule of this subforum got broken here in this thread and that feels like a loss because I really liked the idea of having a place where you can ask for serious discussions.

I think it's better if:
1) if we have nothing to say on the OG topic then we say nothing at all.
2) those who wish to talk pedophilia or whatever - open a separate thread.
3) mods give out infractions, including to me for derailing.

OP is about a picture of a pantyshot showing an obviously underage girl. It's all relevant.

[Oberon]

will you leave the website latvia is a poor eastern bloc country with nothing of relevance to ever leave its borders
Can you not ask for people to leave the website? Thanks. And fuck off with that shitty attitude. You can tell people they're pedophiles or w/e other delusional shit you're into. But dont shit on the people who actually care about this community. Take your meds.

[Bruno]

Can you not ask for people to leave the website? Thanks. And fuck off with that shitty attitude. You can tell people they're pedophiles or w/e other delusional shit you're into. But dont shit on the people who actually care about this community. Take your meds.

shut up virgin

[SuperJack]

shut up virgin

shut it chav

[Apocist]

OP is about a picture of a pantyshot showing an obviously underage girl. It's all relevant.

The OP made no mention of underage people. People just decided that it was more interesting to sexualize them.

[rumox]

The crutch of their age being on the right side of the law is pretty weak. I feel as though this line of thought is detached from reality and I really question if whoever speaks from this pov even understands the mental capacity difference between a 16 yr old and 24+ yr old.

[Kenny]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecchi
Ecchi (エッチ, etchi, pronounced [et.tɕi]) is an often used slang term in the Japanese language for playfully sexual actions. As an adjective, it is used with the meaning of "sexy", "dirty" or "naughty"; as a verb, ecchi suru (エッチする or Ｈする) means “to have sex” or, as a noun, to describe someone of lascivious behavior.

In regards to OP mentioning panty shots can be more or less ecchi

[Bruno]

The OP made no mention of underage people. People just decided that it was more interesting to sexualize them.

there's literally a picture of an underage girl in the first link you posted. you're 32 years old. when are you gonna grow up?

[Apocist]

In regards to OP mentioning panty shots can be more or less ecchi


(some series may obviously be more ecchi in nature)


Just adding this here so it's not taken too much out of context that series were in a link list to not retract from the original purpose.
But yes, ecchi is on a more naughty side.
(As some of those shows were obviously intended for a certain type of audience)

[Apocist]

there's literally a picture of an underage girl in the first link you posted. you're 32 years old. when are you gonna grow up?

Not sure if there's something wrong with Bruno, but he seems to assume every image is of a young person. Pretty sure that's a adult woman...(or about apo's age at time of shot)

[FrostByte]

Not sure if there's something wrong with Bruno, but he seems to assume every image is of a young person. Pretty sure that's a adult woman...(or about apo's age at time of shot)

Nah bro I saw the picture that girl was young as fuck
Besides I don't come to sc2mafia to look at bitches and their panties. That has no place here. It serves no purpose. Go to 4chan if you wanna post that shit.

[OzyWho]

These last few posts,

Apo was talking about this picture. First picture first link:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Lily_Yuen_in_Vancouver_2006-08-25.jpg

Everyone else is talking about the other pictures:
<snip>

[OzyWho]

Nah bro I saw the picture that girl was young as fuck
Besides I don't come to sc2mafia to look at bitches and their panties. That has no place here. It serves no purpose. Go to 4chan if you wanna post that shit.
Here I thought it was supposed to be a Discussion thread. That Series Discussions subforum must have thrown me off. My bad, glad you informed me of Apo's true intentions. God forgive we would take HIS word on what his intentions are.
Still though, doesn't mean you should go out of your way to go against the subforum rules as hard as you can. The one and only subforum that's supposed to have some integrity. (Apart from Report and Appeal subforums I guess)

[Apocist]

These last few posts,

Apo was talking about this picture. First picture first link:

Everyone else is talking about the other pictures:
Hrmmm... The other pictures don't seem to show right away on mobile, so she hadn't been worrying about it.

Digressing, apo had been trying to keep on topic, but certain individuals keep wanting to talk about little girls apparently.

[FrostByte]

Here I thought it was supposed to be a Discussion thread. That Series Discussions subforum must have thrown me off. My bad, glad you informed me of Apo's true intentions. God forgive we would take HIS word on what his intentions are.
Still though, doesn't mean you should go out of your way to go against the subforum rules as hard as you can. The one and only subforum that's supposed to have some integrity. (Apart from Report and Appeal subforums I guess)


That has no place here. It serves no purpose. Go to 4chan if you wanna post that shit.
^ this

Is it really necessary for you to post illustrated pictures of underage girls and their panties? "Teenaged girls are still depicted as wearing white hipster briefs" absolutely underage fucking porn.

The first picture is also porn. I don't see why you insist on posting it.

[SuperJack]

https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2020%2F07%2F31%2F 106407755_2528476267377280_1902794866958087786_n.j pg

[FrostByte]

look at her hairy legs lmfao

[oops_ur_dead]

Ok lemme give a general rule of thumb: if you post some shit that a bunch of people consider to be porn, or pedophilia, and you feel the need to try to defend that it isn't porn or pedophilia, then the problem isn't that other people don't understand the topic, it's actually that your own judgment of whether something is porn or pedophilia is fucked.

I don't see how this is so hard to understand. You won't convince people to think that panty shots of underage girls isn't sexual and weird, at best you'll get fucking weirdos to come out of the woodwork and agree with you.

And you especially aren't going to convince people that you're ok with fucking a 16 year old girl when you're in your mid 20s. No matter how many facts and logic you pull out you're still gonna have to pay the dentist to put all your teeth back in your face.

[SuperJack]

look at her hairy legs lmfao

???

Shame that some people have been brainwashed by selfish buissnessfolk and find issues with natural bodies. Let's put pressure onto society to force themselves to constantly spend money for needless and useless personal hygiene and waste their time with pointless rituals and weigh onto their mental health if they may wish to not such things!

[FrostByte]

???

Shame that some people have been brainwashed by selfish buissnessfolk and find issues with natural bodies. Let's put pressure onto society to force themselves to constantly spend money for needless and useless personal hygiene and waste their time with pointless rituals and weigh onto their mental health if they may wish to not such things!

Yeah man, take the moral high ground after sexualizing a mother breastfeeding by posting her picture in a thread about porn. Good call. Retard.

[SuperJack]

Yeah man, take the moral high ground after sexualizing a mother breastfeeding by posting her picture in a thread about porn. Good call. Retard.

Yeah man. Congratulations on falling into to the pithole of society where normal day to day life is then twisted into sexualising. Turns out it's people that make things sexual, even if they are normal and even take it out of context to throw a blanket over the entire view.

Guess what, it's normal to breastfeed. And it's normal that kids give 0 shits weather or not they accidentally showed under their outwear, or that 1 year old is running around without a nappy and someone saw it through the window.

So, let's ban all the normal shit that happens in real life on media, because there are a tiny minority that are sick and will give themselves a little bit of self abuse.

What effect does that have?

Now you have the vast majority see all this normal natural life shit as wrong and taboo, and now that creates some media that censor the fuck out of it, and others that now twist it into the images that overdo the idea to add to this image that it's all completely wrong.

And now we have you.

[FrostByte]

Yeah man. Congratulations on falling into to the pithole of society where normal day to day life is then twisted into sexualising. Turns out it's people that make things sexual, even if they are normal and even take it out of context to throw a blanket over the entire view.

Guess what, it's normal to breastfeed. And it's normal that kids give 0 shits weather or not they accidentally showed under their outwear, or that 1 year old is running around without a nappy and someone saw it through the window.

So, let's ban all the normal shit that happens in real life on media, because there are a tiny minority that are sick and will give themselves a little bit of self abuse.

What effect does that have?

Now you have the vast majority see all this normal natural life shit as wrong and taboo, and now that creates some media that censor the fuck out of it, and others that now twist it into the images that overdo the idea to add to this image that it's all completely wrong.

And now we have you.

Sexualization comes from context. The context of the thread is porn. You posted a picture of tiddies in a porn thread, therefore you sexualized the subject of the picture and no amount of mental gymnastics is gonna change that. Saying NO U when I point out your sexualization of people doesn't magically absolve you of being the one who did it in the first place.

I don't even think it's that big of a deal. That's a grown woman with her tiddies out getting a picture taken. That's A-OK by me. It doesn't belong here though.

This underage panties illustration shit isn't ok. The panties get illustrated in a roughly innocent context, but then some creep takes a still of the image and adds it to his spank bank, then uploads it here. The panties and the porn isn't even the issue. The issue is that the subjects are obviously underage and are described as such in the most recent picture.

Taking pictures of girls in their panties and collecting them together is inherently sexual and doing it with underage subjects, no matter how fictional they may be, is fucked up and should not be socially acceptable.

[FrostByte]

Annnnd DR just smote that shit out of existence. GG. /thread

[Apocist]

The issue is someone turned this into kiddie shit when that wasn't in the OP. Some troll is having a hay day and destroyed the thread.

[FrostByte]

The issue is someone turned this into kiddie shit when that wasn't in the OP. Some troll is having a hay day and destroyed the thread.

It's troll bait and this is sc2mafia. OFC it's gonna get trolled.

And collecting pictures of girls in their panties is inherently sexual. Doing that to underage subjects is inherently sexual and fucked up.

[Oberon]

How did so much shit arise from a thread asking if panty shots were porn lol

[Oberon]

Imagine falling into a coma in 1900 and waking up in 2019 and wondering why people are getting triggered by random shit

[Oberon]

This thread should honestly just be closed at this point imo

[oops_ur_dead]

Imagine falling into a coma in 1900 and waking up in 2019 and wondering why people are getting triggered by random shit

Ah yes, I yearn for the days of 1900 when you could fuck a 14 year old and that was okay. The world was truly much better in 1900 when people didn't get triggered by child rape.

[DJarJar]

This thread should honestly just be closed at this point imo
Agreed, closed