S-FM Dark Star Legion 9P

[Dark Magician]

FM Dark Star Legion


So we all know these guys named Zedus and Frostbyte.
They insult, vote town, help scum and cost town the Victory making Town Upset.
People were so irritated at them that they started insulting them but Zedus and Frostbyte didn’t like that because they like to insult and no one else.
So they revolted and said “Town no More!” To create a new Faction called the Dark Star Legion.
Town will have to do whatever they can to defeat the Dark Star Legion.
Leading Town comes Dark Magician, Frostbyte and Zedus’s more hated rival.
The Dark Star Legion has a Factional Poison.
All roles are Unique.
There is no Death Notes or Last Wills. (Except for Renegade)

Rolesetup:
Dark Magician
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Zedus
Frostbyte


Rolecards:

Zedus

You have 3 1-Shot Abilities

Almighty Check
Check someone for their role, if they are Dark Magician kill them instead.

Supreme Rule
During the day you can secretly apply yourself as a Double Voter

Utter Domination
Choose a target, they will also die to the factional poison

Frostbyte

You are Bulletproof.
You know every Role that visits you and you will visit and Roleblock them the next following night.
You are immune to Bus Driver and Redirection Abilities.


Dark Magician

You will survive the first Poison made against you.
During the Day you can choose a player and if they were poisoned last night you will remove the poison.
During the Night you can choose a player and force them to visit another.

Gyrlander
Choose a player at night and see who visits them

Deathworlds
During the night you can choose a player and if that player would be poisoned, you will be poisoned instead.

Voss

You have a Lightsaber, but it’s badly damaged.
You can attack someone during the night but only once.

Naz

During the Night you can choose 2 targets and you will swap all targets on them to the other.

Banana

Upon being lynched, you can choose a player and take them down with you.

Mesk514

You have no abilities

Auwt

During the night choose a player and prevent them from preforming their night ability

Marshmallow Marshal
Choose a player at night and see who they visited

Mike
During the night choose a player and force them to visit themselves

Renegade
During the night choose a player and force them to visit you
Your also so smart that you have a Last Will that you can write on and it will be shown upon death.

Frinckles
At the start of the game you will be told the name of who Dark Magician is.

Whysper
If Dark Magician would die while your still alive, you will die instead

Oberon
The first time you would be lynched, the day will end instead.
You are immune to Poison if that poison was done by Frostbyte

Baker
Your vote secretly counts as 2.
You are immune to Poison if that poison was done by Zedus

[Dark Magician]

Still needs color but this is it

[Dark Magician]

Maybe I’ll make it an Alt game and invite Zedus and Frostbyte to the Scum Team.
:/.

[Mesk514]

Citizen mesk ftw

[FrostByte]

Frostbyte

You are Bulletproof.


YES HAHAHA THIS IS HILARIOUS. Just so admins know, I have no problem with this setup baring my name. I'm super OK with it.

You really should change DM role though. It should only allow you to post 5 times d1 and be super unhelpful to town.

[FrostByte]

At least Zedus and me so we know you did this. DM coward.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Lol.
This would need mechanics (phase lenght, lynch system, last wills and death notes allowed or not, etc.), an OoO, rules as you see fit, colors, salt and pepper.
Looks fun(ny) :p.

What's the "factional poison" exactly? When do people die from it, when is it applied, and can it be used along with another ability?

How do you plan to make Zedus' "double vote" secret?

[Dark Magician]

Lol.
This would need mechanics (phase lenght, lynch system, last wills and death notes allowed or not, etc.), an OoO, rules as you see fit, colors, salt and pepper.
Looks fun(ny) :p.

What's the "factional poison" exactly? When do people die from it, when is it applied, and can it be used along with another ability?

How do you plan to make Zedus' "double vote" secret?

Factional Poison - They die at the end of the next day unless healed by DM.
Zedus’s second vote is silent so for example Zedus activates his ability when it’s 3/4 Votes which makes it 4/4.
No one will know who had the second vote just that it was done.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Factional Poison - They die at the end of the next day unless healed by DM.
Zedus’s second vote is silent so for example Zedus activates his ability when it’s 3/4 Votes which makes it 4/4.
No one will know who had the second vote just that it was done.

How would the "silent vote" work? Unless the game has pure plurality lynch (without majority), it'd mean the host has to be here 24/7 to manage silent hammers that cannot be managed through the command (since it wouldn't be silent). That is obviously not possible.

[Renegade]

wOW I'm sad I don't get a role. I've played plenty of games with goofy DM.

[Renegade]

Plus I am probably chief amongst the anti-Zwebus folk.

[FrostByte]

Zedus should be able to send host a PM with their silent vote instead of only being able to use it in daychat. It would be super easy to PoE who has it.

[Dark Magician]

How would the "silent vote" work? Unless the game has pure plurality lynch (without majority), it'd mean the host has to be here 24/7 to manage silent hammers that cannot be managed through the command (since it wouldn't be silent). That is obviously not possible.

No it’s both Majority and Plurality.
What happens is wherever Zedus is voting, an extra vote is there but it’s not shown it is.

[Dark Magician]

wOW I'm sad I don't get a role. I've played plenty of games with goofy DM.

Oh shit, I knew I was forgetting someone.

[Dark Magician]

Gotcha Fam.
Added you.

[Dark Magician]

Zedus should be able to send host a PM with their silent vote instead of only being able to use it in daychat. It would be super easy to PoE who has it.

Not really.
It would just confirm that someone on the lynched wagon is Zedus.
Then you and Zedus just kill outside of the players who voted on the wagon.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

No it’s both Majority and Plurality.
What happens is wherever Zedus is voting, an extra vote is there but it’s not shown it is.

Okay, then what happens if Zedus votes someone who's at L-2? Or even more cruel, if Zedus places a vote on player A, that player A gets voted up to L-2 according to the public vote count, and then someone normal votes player A, which happens to actually be a hammer due to the secret Zedus vote? According to what you're saying, player A would be hammered in such a case, and you'd have to be there immediatly to close the thread because the bot won't do it for you (you can't make the additional vote secret if you run it through the bot).

[Oberon]

Give Oberon and Marshmallow a special mechanic that says if you dont mention WIFOM or night actions you instantly die

[Dark Magician]

Okay, then what happens if Zedus votes someone who's at L-2? Or even more cruel, if Zedus places a vote on player A, that player A gets voted up to L-2 according to the public vote count, and then someone normal votes player A, which happens to actually be a hammer due to the secret Zedus vote? According to what you're saying, player A would be hammered in such a case, and you'd have to be there immediatly to close the thread because the bot won't do it for you (you can't make the additional vote secret if you run it through the bot).

MM your still not understanding.
You don’t know the second vote is there. It never shows.

[bakermir]

MM your still not understanding.
You don’t know the second vote is there. It never shows.

what I understand from secret votes;

player x
player y

(according to vote count on site and bot)
x is on L-1 (zedus, a, b, c, y)
y is on L-1 (d, e, f, g, h)

y gets hammered by x.

zedus is in x wagon then host flips x instead of y even though y was hammered because of the secret vote.


right?

[FrostByte]

It would just confirm that someone on the lynched wagon is Zedus.

Exactly. 9p setup with extra voters. Day 1 4 people would have to lynch someone if Zedus was on the wagon. Say n1 one of those voters is confirmable town, then you have 1 in 3 on one of the 2 wolves day 2.
If Baker and Zedus both voted the same person d1 you've got automatic mechanical 1 in 3 going into day 2. I guarantee even our "C tier roster" would be able to socially deduce a 1 in 3 by day 3.

Zedus decides not to vote? Cool, lynch whoever didn't RVS day 1 GG you've got 1 wolf 8 town going into day 2

It would devolve into 1 or 2 confirmed town forcing scummy player x to vote with them and see when a player gets hammered. This setup is so easily broken and that can be totally mitigated by making Zedus and Baker send host a PM with their extra vote.

That way host can keep an eye on their PMs to know when an extra vote is coming into play so they know they have to watch the thread like a hawk. With the extra votes in 9p setup host is gonna have to basically stay home and read all day anyway.

@Helz (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=10617) you're good at breaking setups. Am I wrong?

[FrostByte]

If I was baker I'd switch my votes between people who have 2 votes on them to see if I'm hammering just to trap Zedus D1. Claim Baker d2, make it a 50/50 with town probably on the side of whoever claimed Baker first. That's GG day2. Scum kill baker n1? Cool, still day2 50/50

Fuck, Baker could easily deduce Zedus and get him into a 50/50 day2. It wouldn't even be that hard, you'd just have to be opportunistic with your votes.

[Helz]

Exactly. 9p setup with extra voters. Day 1 4 people would have to lynch someone if Zedus was on the wagon. Say n1 one of those voters is confirmable town, then you have 1 in 3 on one of the 2 wolves day 2.
If Baker and Zedus both voted the same person d1 you've got automatic mechanical 1 in 3 going into day 2. I guarantee even our "C tier roster" would be able to socially deduce a 1 in 3 by day 3.

Zedus decides not to vote? Cool, lynch whoever didn't RVS day 1 GG you've got 1 wolf 8 town going into day 2

It would devolve into 1 or 2 confirmed town forcing scummy player x to vote with them and see when a player gets hammered. This setup is so easily broken and that can be totally mitigated by making Zedus and Baker send host a PM with their extra vote.

That way host can keep an eye on their PMs to know when an extra vote is coming into play so they know they have to watch the thread like a hawk. With the extra votes in 9p setup host is gonna have to basically stay home and read all day anyway.

@Helz (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=10617) you're good at breaking setups. Am I wrong?

Yeah, The double vote mechanic would be extremely easy to identify.

I would suggest instead of it being a vote that counts for two allow the player to PM you with a 2nd separate vote and have the host cast the vote. It would add an interesting layer of WIFOM to see players deal with a confirmed scum vote and prevent them from using it to identify the player casting it.

[FrostByte]

Yeah, The double vote mechanic would be extremely easy to identify.

I would suggest instead of it being a vote that counts for two allow the player to PM you with a 2nd separate vote and have the host cast the vote. It would add an interesting layer of WIFOM to see players deal with a confirmed scum vote and prevent them from using it to identify the player casting it.

Bakermir is a potential town with a secret vote, too. Baker could easily confirm themselves at any time by saying "I'm baker and I'm PMing host to vote for X" and then doing it.