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BananaCucho
July 13th, 2020, 01:24 PM
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33240-S-FM-Mushroom-Kingdom-Madness
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https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33910-S-FM-168-Mushroom-Kingdom-Madness!!?highlight=mushroom+kingdom+madness

Role List:
Bowser
Hidden Koopa Role
Hidden Koopa Role
Mario
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Mushroom Kingdom Role
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Rolecards:

All Team Koopa roles are unique

Bowser (Unique)
Your receive 1 random Koopa ability that you can use. You can choose to re-roll it for another random ability (night one only). You cannot perform any other actions (including the night kill) if you do this
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
If any member of your team attempts to kill Princess Toadstool and she hasn't already been converted, she will join your faction instead of being killed.
You are immune to night kills.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is {role}
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Koopa (Unique)
You can check one player at night. You will discover who they visited and who visited them
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Hammer Bro (Unique)
Role block a player at night. You cannot be role blocked.
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Shy Guy (Unique)
Target a player at night, giving them fake feedback. This feedback must be from the list of valid feedback in the game and overrides the real feedback they would have received
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Boo (Unique)
Kidnap a player at night, sharing an anonymous chat with them. You show up as "Jailor" in the anonymous chat
This role blocks the player from night actions and removes them from any other chat they may be a part of for that night
You can execute your target (1 charge)
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Paratroopa (Unique)
Target 2 players during the day. They share an anonymous chat together at night. You observe the chat
You can target yourself
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Goomba (Unique)
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You have no additional abilities. If you are the last member of your team standing, you receive a random Team Koopa ability. You may use both this ability and the night kill.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Magikoopa (Unique)
Target a player at night, forcing them to redirect their action to another player of your choice
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Bowser Jr (Unique)
Target a player at night, framing them as Team Koopa to investigative roles this night only
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Koopaling (Unique)
Target a player at night, changing their last will to whatever you wish it to be (regular last will limitations apply)
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
You cannot use both your ability and the night kill on a given night, unless you are the last member standing on your team.
{player} is Bowser
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}

Princess Toadstool (Converted Princess Toadstool) (Unique)
You chat at night with Team Koopa and choose to kill someone at night. You may perform the night kill yourself or another player on your team can.
If you do not attempt the night kill yourself you can heal a player.
{player} is Bowser.
{player} is {role}.
{player} is {role}
Link to the Team Koopa chat: {link}



Unique roles (max 1 possible of each role)

Mario (Unique)
Check one player to see their alignment. If you check Princess Toadstool, you will become a lovebird with her.
If Team Koopa captures Princess Toadstool, you will become Evil Mario in your rage. If Luigi becomes a lovebird with Princess Toadstool, you will become Abandoned Love.
If you check Team Koopa your alignment will become locked as Mushroom Kingdom and you cannot be converted

Luigi (Unique)
Check one player to see everyone that visited them at night. If you check Princess Toadstool or Princess Dasiy, you will become a Lovebird with her. If Mario becomes a Lovebird with Princess Toadstool, you will become Evil Luigi in your rage. If Bowser captures Princess Toadstool, your alignment will be locked as Mushroom Kingdom and you cannot be converted

Geno (Unique)
You receive the "Toad" role card initially
If any player changes alignment, you receive your true rolecard of Geno
If you die before this happens, you will show up as Toad in the graveyard
You have ONE vigilante night shot that bypasses immunity

Yoshi (Unique)
You receive the "Toad" role card initially
If any player changes alignment, you receive your true rolecard of Yoshi
If you die before this happens, you will show up as Toad in the graveyard
You can check a player's alignment at night

Toadette (Unique)
You receive the "Toad" role card initially
If any player changes alignment, you receive your true rolecard of Toadette
If you die before this happens, you will show up as Toad in the graveyard
You are the best role in the game. You are secretly the mayor of the mushroom kingdom. You can reveal at any time through pm to the host. You will be revealed to everyone as mayor and have two votes until you die.

Professor E Gadd (Unique)
You receive the "Toad" role card initially
If any player changes alignment, you receive your true rolecard of Professor E Gadd
If you die before this happens, you will show up as Toad in the graveyard
You can check one player at night. You will discover who they visited and who visited them

Princess Daisy (Converted Princess Daisy) (Unique)
You can roleblock a player each night.
You are immune to role blocks.


Non-Unique roles (0, 1, or multiple possible of each):

Toad (Citizen)
You have no ability

Mallow
You can heal a player each night
You cannot be healed

Toadsworth
You can follow a player at night to see who they visited

Bombette
Protect a player at night, if they are attacked you will die and kill the attacker
If you are successful, you cannot be healed

Kooper
You can roleblock a player each night.
You are immune to role blocks.

Parakarry
Target 2 players during the day. They share an anonymous chat together at night. You observe the chat
You cannot target yourself

Vivian
Alert at night, killing all players that target you
You can do this 2 times only

Goombario
You share a night chat with Goombella
{player} is Goombella
If Goombella dies, you also die
Link to chat: {link}

Goombella
You share a night chat with Goombario
{player} is Goombario
If Goombario dies, you also die
Link to chat: {link}

Lady Bow
Jail a player at night, sharing an anonymous chat. You show up as Jailor in the chat
This role blocks the player from night actions and removes them from any other chat they may be a part of for that night
You can execute your target (1 charge)



Princess Toadstool
You have two bulletproof vests. If you change your alignment you lose them.
If Mario or Luigi checks you, you become Lovebird Princess Toadstool
If Team Koopa tries to kill you, you become Princess Toadstool
If neither Mario nor Luigi nor Bowser converts you and they all die, OR if Mario checks Team Koopa AND Bowser dies, you become Abandoned Love.

Abandoned Love (Converted Mario/Princess Toadstool)
You carry over any bulletproof vests you have remaining (Princess Toadstool only).
You can visit a target at night, alerting them to your existence
Be MUSHROOM'D to win. If you are MUSHROOM'd, choose one of your voters to die. This kill pierces immunity.

Princess Daisy
If Mario checks you, you become Evil Princess Daisy. Mario receives a Mushroom Kingdom check on you the night that this happens.
If Luigi checks you, you become Lovebird Princess Daisy
If Bowser tries to kill you, you become Princess Daisy
If Mario, Luigi, and Bowser all die before you are converted, you automatically win the game

Wario
You have 1 immunity and healing piercing bullet to kill Mario with. This shot can only kill Mario and will fail if another player is hit.
If Mario is MUSHROOM'D or killed by another player, or if you hit the wrong player, you become Insane Wario

Waluigi
You have two bulletproof vests
You have a 1 use transformation gun that you must use by the end of night 3
If your transformation shot hits any Mushroom Kingdom member other than Mario, they become Wario
If your shot hits Mario, a Neutral, Lovebird, or Team Koopa, your identity will be revealed to them and you will receive a 2nd shot that you must use the next night. If it happens again you will not receive a 3rd shot
If your shot hits a Team Koopa member (except for Bowser), their role will also be changed to another random Team Koopa role




Lovebird Mario/Luigi (Converted Mario/Luigi)
You share a night chat with Lovebird Princess Toadstool/Daisy. You can perform the night kill (every other night) or Princess Toadstool/Daisy can.
{Player} is Princess Toadstool/Daisy
Lovebird chat: {link}

Lovebird Princess Toadstool/Daisy (Converted Princess Toadstool/Daisy)
You share a night chat with Lovebird Mario/Luigi. You can perform the lovebird night kill (every other night) or Mario/Luigi can. If you don't perform the night kill, you can role block a player.
If role blocking, you are immune to role block. If killing, you are not immune.
{Player} is Mario/Luigi
Lovebird chat: {link}



Evil Mario/Luigi (Converted Mario/Luigi)
Kill any player at night. You are immune to night kills

Evil Princess Daisy (Converted Princess Daisy)
You can visit a player, killing all players that visit that person at night. A player that doesn't take an action is considered to visit themselves
You can visit yourself with this action once
You are immune to night kills

Insane Wario (Converted Wario)
You can either douse a player in gasoline at night, or ignite all doused players
Players are informed when they are doused


Win Conditions:
Koopas: Eliminate the Mushroom Kingdom, Lovebirds, and Neutral Evil or achieve a situation in which this is inevitable.
Mushroom Kingdom: Eliminate the Koopas, Lovebirds, and Neutral Evil and have one surviving player.
Neutral Evil: Be the last remaining player alive.
Lovebirds: Eliminate the Mushroom Kingdom and the Team Koopa.
Princess Toadstool: Join Team Koopa or Lovebirds and win with them, or win as Abandoned Love
Princess Daisy: Survive until the end of the game, or until Mario, Luigi and Bowser have all died
Abandoned Love: Win by being MUSHROOM'D
Wario: Use your immunity piercing bullet to kill Mario, no matter his alignment
Waluigi: Survive until the end of the game

Tie breakers:
Neutral Evil > Lovebirds > Team Koopa > Mushroom Kingdom

Order of Operations:
Roleblockers role block
Vivian alerts
Magikoopa redirects target
Lady Bow/Boo jail
Wario uses his bullet, Waluigi uses his transformation gun, Abandoned Love visits
Healing/Protective roles protect
Neutral Evil kills
Lovebirds kills
Team Koopa kills
Geno kills
Lady Bow/Boo execute their jailed target
Deceptive roles frames
Investigative investigate (Including Mario) (Toadsworth goes last)
Team Koopa attempts to capture Princess Toadstool
Koopaling changes last wills and Shy Guy changes feedback

Mechanics:
48 hour days, 24 hour nights
Day one starts with MUSHROOM.
Majority MUSHROOM
Last wills are limited to 100 characters.
Suicide is not allowed.

Special Mechanics:
If Princess Toadstool is discovered by Mario or Luigi they become Lovebirds together
If Princess Toadstool becomes a Lovebird with Luigi, Mario becomes Abandoned Love
If Princess Daisy is discovered by Mario she becomes Evil Princess Daisy
If Princess Toadstool is captured by Team Koopa she joins them and Mario becomes Evil Mario in his rage of betrayal
If Mario, Luigi, and Bowser all die without finding Princess Toadstool she becomes Abandoned Love
If Mario is killed or MUSHROOM'd or Wario misses his shot he will become Insane Wario
Waluigi can transform a town player (except Mario) into Wario
Waluigi can transform a Team Koopa player (except Bowser) into another random Team Koopa role
Any players that can change alignment can only change once
If any player changes alignment, Geno, Yoshi, Professor E Gadd and Toadette receive their true non-citizen role cards and abilities

Valid Feedback:


You were role blocked!



You were attacked and healed last night



Your target visited {player}/nobody
Your target was visited by {player(s)}/nobody



Your target was visited by {player}/nobody



Your target was visited by {player}/nobody



You are jailed!
Link to jail chat: {link}



You are invited to an anonymous chat with another player
Link to anonymous chat: {link}



Your target's alignment is {alignment}



You are no longer a member of the town. Your new alignment is {alignment} and your new role is {role}
[new rolecard]



You remembered last night that you are not actually a Toad, but rather you are {role}
[true rolecard]



You were visited by a very sad, weepy person last night



You were doused in an oily substance last night


Rules:
Do not quote pms from the host
Images/videos/colored chat allowed, but don't be excessive about it.
No talking about the game outside of the game.
No excessive personal attacks.
No anonymous accounts.
NO password protected posts
No post count requirements, but I reserve the right to replace a player at any time due to excessive inactivity to keep the game flowing.

Any questions?


v1.1 - Added Luigi kill to OoO and changed Lovebirds to have a night kill and abilities.
v1.2 - Added Bowser captures Princess Toadstool as last in OoO
v1.3 - Added unique/non-unique role subcategories for town roles
v1.4 - Added two more town roles to make it 10v2v1
v1.5 - Dropped one townie, now 9v2v1
v1.6 - Updated per ika questions
v1.7 - Made Luigi a 1 shot night immunity piercing vig
v1.8 - Changed Bowser night kill to auto convert PT if she is targeted
v1.9 - Princess Toadstool is no longer a survivor role.
v1.10 - Everybody can now vote

v2.0 Changed Luigi/Yoshi to Random Mushroom Kingdom role. Added 1 Mafia role, changed Koopa to Random Koopa role. Added 1 town role. Added 1 random any. Changed Toadstool to Random Neutral. Updated the rules. Updated mechanics
Princess Daisy and Wario new neutral roles (WIP)
Insane Wario new Neutral Evil role
Removed toad/non toad appearances and checks. This has never worked well in practice
Reworked Koopa
Changed "Evil Mario" section to "Neutral Evil"
Changed Luigi/Yoshi roles from "if mario/toadstool changes alignment" to receive Toad rolecard initially, and true role card upon alignment change
v2.1 - Changed Luigi to Geno as flavor matches better. Changed Geno to Toadsworth
Luigi is now similar to Mario. Mario vs Luigi theme
Added Evil Luigi
Mario can now become Abandoned Love
Added Princess Daisy Neutral role
v2.2 - Added a condition for Mario to be able to lock his alignment as town. Updated Toadstool to consider this as "Mario has died" for Abandoned Love condition
Added Waluigi
Changed Mallow to not be able to be healed
Updated various colors, verbiage, and names in OoO
Updated Converted Princess Toadstool to be a mafia doctor
Kooper is now an escort
Added Bombette (bodyguard)
Added Goombario (mason)
Added Goombella (mason)
Added Parakarry (architect)
Added Vivian (veteran)
v2.3 - Added more mafia roles and jailor
Added a list of possible feedback
Ready for review
v2.4 - Clarified situation in which Luigi can get locked as town
Removed Princess Daisy's MUSHROOM immunity
Gave town Princess Daisy consort ability again
Added Professor E Gadd in unique town roles

BananaCucho
July 13th, 2020, 02:46 PM
Open to suggestions, including additional roles to add

The whole premise of the original game was the Mario/Toadstool dynamic of 1/2 players changing alignment. I'm looking to keep that spirit of the game with any added additional neutrals

DJarJar
July 13th, 2020, 03:00 PM
well you already have the option for Mario and peach to get together, maybe something with luigi and the WIP daisy?

OR give luigi the same interaction with princess toadstool and then if luigi or Mario gets with her, the other knows and goes evil?

BananaCucho
July 13th, 2020, 03:27 PM
well you already have the option for Mario and peach to get together, maybe something with luigi and the WIP daisy?

OR give luigi the same interaction with princess toadstool and then if luigi or Mario gets with her, the other knows and goes evil?

Oooooo I like this idea, I'll explore it

BananaCucho
July 13th, 2020, 03:50 PM
Updated Mario/Luigi roles, with Mario having the possibility to become Abandoned Love if Luigi snags Toadstool

BananaCucho
July 17th, 2020, 08:22 AM
I just did a re-read of the game to see what things I want to change

A big thing I want to avoid this time is a hunt for Mario. Given Mario's volatility and the possibility of changing roles, the strategy put forth was to get Mario to reveal and lynch him. I don't want that the second time so a change for Mario is needed

My initial thought is to add a way for Mario to lock in his alignment as town


If you check Team Koopa your alignment will become locked as Mushroom Kingdom and you will not be converted

BananaCucho
July 21st, 2020, 12:27 PM
SuperJack
Marshmallow Marshall

Tis ready for your judging eyes

Marshmallow Marshall
July 21st, 2020, 10:26 PM
What prevents a hunt for Luigi similar to the hunt for Mario you want to avoid?

The amount of possible KPN is rather high. Koopas, jailors, vigilantes, lovebirds, evil neutrals... Town can get destroyed very easily, especially since Mario and potentially Luigi can get converted to a scum team. Perhaps the Neutral Evils should not be Neutral Killings as they are right now, but actually Neutral Evils? That would also slightly reduce the setup's instability.

Permanent lynch immunity for neutral!Daisy seems unnecessary (and makes the role rather easy, especially since Bowser can't even kill her and since she's basically a survivor). She also is highly volatile, and the setup's balance can be heavily affected by her presence in the game and especially by what happens to her.

BananaCucho
July 21st, 2020, 11:57 PM
What prevents a hunt for Luigi similar to the hunt for Mario you want to avoid?

The amount of possible KPN is rather high. Koopas, jailors, vigilantes, lovebirds, evil neutrals... Town can get destroyed very easily, especially since Mario and potentially Luigi can get converted to a scum team. Perhaps the Neutral Evils should not be Neutral Killings as they are right now, but actually Neutral Evils? That would also slightly reduce the setup's instability.

Permanent lynch immunity for neutral!Daisy seems unnecessary (and makes the role rather easy, especially since Bowser can't even kill her and since she's basically a survivor). She also is highly volatile, and the setup's balance can be heavily affected by her presence in the game and especially by what happens to her.

Luigi isn't a guaranteed role while Mario is. So if town wants to out Luigi and nobody claims it it opens the possibility of scum claiming it. And if Bowser captures Toadstool he gets locked as town. I'll update rhe wording to make this more clear. So he may or may not even be in the game, and has a lock condition like I added for Mario. If you have suggestions to modifications for Luigi I'm open to them.

So as far as the Lovebirds go, they originally didn't have a night kill. That was added upon suggestion by your predecessor


Where is Luigi's kill in the OoO?

Lovebirds seem too underpowered because they're a scum faction without a night kill.

If I change it to a kill every other night, is that a good compromise?

Daisy was a completely new idea so I'll rework her a bit

BananaCucho
July 21st, 2020, 11:59 PM
As far as the KPN goes, obviously not all roles will be in the game. I will select roles (not actually random) to try to balance it, I dont want it ending in 2 days lol

BananaCucho
July 22nd, 2020, 12:02 AM
Also yes, there is a great possibility that town could get steamrolled. That's where there are certain roles that start out as citizen, but if town loses Mario or Luigi they become stronger

I may add another role or two that can do that

There's also the possibility that Mario finds Bowser n1 and scum team gets stream rolled like in the original game lmao

BananaCucho
July 22nd, 2020, 12:10 AM
Marshmallow Marshall some updates

v2.4 - Clarified situation in which Luigi can get locked as town
Removed Princess Daisy's lynch immunity
Gave town Princess Daisy consort ability again
Added Professor E Gadd in unique town roles

Marshmallow Marshall
July 22nd, 2020, 03:08 PM
Luigi isn't a guaranteed role while Mario is. So if town wants to out Luigi and nobody claims it it opens the possibility of scum claiming it. And if Bowser captures Toadstool he gets locked as town. I'll update rhe wording to make this more clear. So he may or may not even be in the game, and has a lock condition like I added for Mario. If you have suggestions to modifications for Luigi I'm open to them.


Ahh ok, it makes more sense with the townlock mechanic for Luigi.


So as far as the Lovebirds go, they originally didn't have a night kill. That was added upon suggestion by your predecessor



If I change it to a kill every other night, is that a good compromise?

Daisy was a completely new idea so I'll rework her a bit

Hmmm, sure, that would work. I agree with MattZed here that lovebirds would be underpowered without any night kill. My point was rather that neutral evils could be actual neutral evils who win if the town loses and if they survive until the end, and who don't have kills. It's especially true since to-be neutral evils tend to become neutral evils when someone else becomes a lovebird, which adds a significant amount of killing scum in the game.


May I suggest to call the roles that aren't actually random "[Alignment] Any" instead of "Random [Alignment]"? It makes more sense if role are handpicked, yes lol.

BananaCucho
July 23rd, 2020, 07:05 PM
Ahh ok, it makes more sense with the townlock mechanic for Luigi.



Hmmm, sure, that would work. I agree with MattZed here that lovebirds would be underpowered without any night kill. My point was rather that neutral evils could be actual neutral evils who win if the town loses and if they survive until the end, and who don't have kills. It's especially true since to-be neutral evils tend to become neutral evils when someone else becomes a lovebird, which adds a significant amount of killing scum in the game.


May I suggest to call the roles that aren't actually random "[Alignment] Any" instead of "Random [Alignment]"? It makes more sense if role are handpicked, yes lol.

Okay Firebringer, "Random" has been changed to "Hidden".

Also changed Lovebirds to kill every other night instead of every night

deathworlds
July 23rd, 2020, 08:59 PM
Okay Firebringer, "Random" has been changed to "Hidden".

You and me both

BananaCucho
July 23rd, 2020, 11:42 PM
You and me both

For the uninitiated:

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/31951-Don-t-Call-Your-Roles-quot-Random-quot-Unless-you-actuall-you-mean-Random

SuperJack
July 24th, 2020, 03:09 PM
What happens if there is a mass role claim?
How many town roles with town confirming feedback are there?
Please make unique/non unique cleared in the rolecards.
Can jailor executions be healed?
Do vets kill role blockers?
Are you allowed to create pictures and videos and use as in-game content (like pictures of spreadsheet read lists, or a videos as a last will you made explaining your last will.)
What's the double post about requirements for?

Can roles which don't have their true rolecard yet, use their true powers before they get their true rolecard?

BananaCucho
July 24th, 2020, 03:18 PM
What happens if there is a mass role claim?

This is why most town roles have a scum counterpart, and why all roles (except Mario) are hidden vs x number of killing, support, etc. Mass claim can happen at any time but scum can hide in plain sight


How many town roles with town confirming feedback are there?

Seems like a pretty generic question


Please make unique/non unique cleared in the rolecards.

Sure I can do that tonight on my laptop



Can jailor executions be healed?


Sure why not



Do vets kill role blockers?


OoO says that Vet can be role blocked. So no



Are you allowed to create pictures and videos and use as in-game content (like pictures of spreadsheet read lists, or a videos as a last will you made explaining your last will.)


In game sure. Last will no



What's the double post about requirements for?


Clerical error



Can roles which don't have their true rolecard yet, use their true powers before they get their true rolecard?

Nope, until they get their true rolecard they are a Toad

Marshmallow Marshall
July 24th, 2020, 03:30 PM
Okay Firebringer, "Random" has been changed to "Hidden".

Also changed Lovebirds to kill every other night instead of every night

:firebringer:

Massclaim would result in a standard TPR box + citizens box, potentially + neutrals, and the potential scum roles being similar to the potential town roles prevent solving by massclaim.

Town-confirming feedback basically does not exist in this game because of the similarity between the town and scum role list for roles that give feedback. Only Toadette (mayor) can actually confirm herself without the shadow of a doubt. The Shy Guy (drug dealer selecting the fake feedback) also prevents this.

Does Vivian (veteran) pierce night immunity?

BananaCucho
July 24th, 2020, 03:56 PM
:firebringer:

Massclaim would result in a standard TPR box + citizens box, potentially + neutrals, and the potential scum roles being similar to the potential town roles prevent solving by massclaim.

Town-confirming feedback basically does not exist in this game because of the similarity between the town and scum role list for roles that give feedback. Only Toadette (mayor) can actually confirm herself without the shadow of a doubt. The Shy Guy (drug dealer selecting the fake feedback) also prevents this.

Does Vivian (veteran) pierce night immunity?

No it does not

BananaCucho
July 27th, 2020, 09:25 AM
SuperJack Marshmallow Marshall

Unique roles have been marked as so in their role cards. Anything else?

Ganelon
July 27th, 2020, 09:42 AM
Jesus this game is fat

BananaCucho
July 27th, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jesus this game is fat

Okay? As FM staff do you have anything actually constructive to add? Are you reviewing the setup as well?

BananaCucho
July 27th, 2020, 12:53 PM
Another quick update - all references to "lynched" have been updated to "fucked"

BananaCucho
August 2nd, 2020, 08:24 AM
Bump!

Marshmallow Marshall
August 5th, 2020, 01:37 AM
Another quick update - all references to "lynched" have been updated to "fucked"


Your setup is formatted in such a way that it is pleasant to the eyes and mind of your audience and helps them better understand the nuances of your game.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/30769-Before-You-Submit-Your-Setup-READ-BEFORE-POSTING

I don't know if that's pleasant to the minds of people in your audience... I suggest to switch it back, although I won't force you to do it :P. Feel free to change that part even when it's approved.

Other than that, the setup seems rather good, granted that manual setup balance is handled correctly by the host. Approved.

BananaCucho
August 5th, 2020, 11:58 AM
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/30769-Before-You-Submit-Your-Setup-READ-BEFORE-POSTING

I don't know if that's pleasant to the minds of people in your audience... I suggest to switch it back, although I won't force you to do it :P. Feel free to change that part even when it's approved.

Other than that, the setup seems rather good, granted that manual setup balance is handled correctly by the host. Approved.

Updated all references to MUSHROOM'D

Marshmallow Marshall
August 5th, 2020, 02:42 PM
Updated all references to MUSHROOM'D

:toad: Approves.

Added you to the Queue, btw.